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Speedcabling - Untangling For Fun and Profit

ibnsuleiman writes "A new competitive sport is emerging amongst IT professionals and hobbyists. Speedcabling tests the ability to untangle the rat's nests that grow inside and outside of the beige boxes that pervade todays homes and workplaces. The first public competition was held in an LA gallery for a $50 gift certificate to a local Italian restaurant. The winner, LA web developer Matthew Howell, had to untangle a dozen ethernet cables in record time leaving them in working order to win."

138 comments

  1. Hmmm... by hbean · · Score: 5, Funny

    finally a sport where steroids wont help you!

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    1. Re:Hmmm... by Brian+Gordon · · Score: 1

      As if a $50 gift certificate would pay for the steroids anyway

    2. Re:Hmmm... by explosivejared · · Score: 5, Funny

      finally a sport where steroids wont help you!

      I can see the doping scandals already... Loser: Check his inhaler! I know he's taking stimulants! Look on the inside of glasses I know he's got a hologram of Natalie Portman to keep him relaxed! HE SO CHEATED!!

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    3. Re:Hmmm... by joaommp · · Score: 1

      No, but this will: http://www.thinkgeek.com/caffeine/candy/6b77/



      What? No one yet wrote a comment about how In soviet russia cables untangle you?

    4. Re:Hmmm... by Sfing_ter · · Score: 1

      Dood, everyone knows that Holograms of Natalie Portman do not keep you relaxed, they keep you stimulated and distracted...

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  2. Well, makes more sense than curling by elrous0 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Apologies to my Scottish and Canadian friends. But, really??

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    1. Re:Well, makes more sense than curling by evilklown · · Score: 0

      Sounds like something from a Dilbert strip.

    2. Re:Well, makes more sense than curling by RabidMonkey · · Score: 4, Funny

      Curling combines the skillful art of hitting things with other things, ice, and beer. What more could you desire out of a sport? Sure, theres a lack of bikinis, see ice for a reason.

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    3. Re:Well, makes more sense than curling by Peter+Cooper · · Score: 2, Funny

      Curling makes as much sense as bowling. That's really what curling is.. ice bowling.

    4. Re:Well, makes more sense than curling by winkydink · · Score: 2, Funny

      I have a feeling there'll be a decided lack of bikinis in this "sport" too.

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    5. Re:Well, makes more sense than curling by Hotawa+Hawk-eye · · Score: 1

      Actually, in my opinion curling is more like ice shuffleboard or ice bocce.

    6. Re:Well, makes more sense than curling by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Its shuffleboard.

      Its just not all old people on cruise ships.

  3. Next on... by airedalez · · Score: 5, Funny

    ESPN 8 the ocho!

    1. Re:Next on... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      someone tagged this theocho - pure brilliance

    2. Re:Next on... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Is this going to bump competitive cup stacking?

  4. Limited real-world relevance by Ed+Avis · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The trouble is, the techniques that help you disentangle a bundle of cables not attached to any equipment are not applicable when some of the cables are plugged in and need to stay plugged in, as usually in real life. They need a variant of the sport where there are thirty cables, some plugged into various patch panels at both ends, some at one end only, and some free; your task is to extract the loose and dangling cables and leave the working ones.

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    1. Re:Limited real-world relevance by QuietLagoon · · Score: 5, Funny
      They need a variant of the sport

      What they really need is a life.

    2. Re:Limited real-world relevance by FatJuggles · · Score: 1

      The cables will be plugged in when this game reaches the X Games.

    3. Re:Limited real-world relevance by MT628496 · · Score: 5, Funny

      You mean that you don't just rip the switch out of the rack and throw it up in the air? I thought everyone untangled like that!

    4. Re:Limited real-world relevance by timelorde · · Score: 1

      Isn't this part of Cisco's CCIE exam?

    5. Re:Limited real-world relevance by tboulan · · Score: 1

      The CCIE exam would be to create the tangled mess!

    6. Re:Limited real-world relevance by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What they really need is a life.

      Yes, the "game of life" has a whole new meaning if your a nerd living in your mom's basement dreaming of girls.... just dreaming of meeting them that is!!

      Still I guess the outside world will just see this as the nerd equivalent of speeddating. Hmm, not many girls around here so what can I date that I have lots of and do actually come into regular contact with.... ah cables! Brings a whole new meaning to the name cableguy as well!

    7. Re:Limited real-world relevance by nmg196 · · Score: 4, Funny

      > They need a variant of the sport where there are thirty cables, some plugged into various
      > patch panels at both ends, some at one end only, and some free; your task is to extract
      > the loose and dangling cables and leave the working ones.

      It's called Network Administration.

    8. Re:Limited real-world relevance by 192939495969798999 · · Score: 1

      I concur, the event needs real routers and it has to stay working at the end to be a real "sport"... as much as it could ever be a real sport.

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    9. Re:Limited real-world relevance by HTH+NE1 · · Score: 1

      The trouble is, the techniques that help you disentangle a bundle of cables not attached to any equipment are not applicable when some of the cables are plugged in and need to stay plugged in, as usually in real life.

      If they must stay plugged in, then there will be situations where the cables cannot be untangled, especially if connected at both ends to equipment you can't move.

      They need a variant of the sport where there are thirty cables, some plugged into various patch panels at both ends, some at one end only, and some free; your task is to extract the loose and dangling cables and leave the working ones.

      Don't forget to require that they all look identical except that some may have mismatched ends. And some may have lost their tabs already so that a slight tug will pull them out.

      If you're untangling them loose, you might as well just yank them all, cut new wire, and untangle the original nest later. First of course confirming what was connected to what. Of course, for some situations where you don't have an n-port continuity tester (n much much greater than 2), it helps to have a rat(*) that you clip on one end of the cable that runs down the physical wire to the other end, picking and pushing its way through any obstacles and tangles.

      (*) rat == robotic attachment traverser. What else would you use to go through a "rat's nest" of tangled cables?
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    10. Re:Limited real-world relevance by Nefarious+Wheel · · Score: 1
      If you're untangling them loose, you might as well just yank them all, cut new wire, and untangle the original nest later

      Yes, but I'd add a recommendation to switch to structured cabling with Krone blocks and patch-by-exception panels. I had the job of straightening out several thousand Cat-5 rats nests for a retail chain a couple of years ago, and the Krone stuff worked a treat. Recommended.

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    11. Re:Limited real-world relevance by orangesquid · · Score: 1
      I just looked up Krone blocks. They do sound useful... effectively a patch bay is to audio as a disconnection block is to twisted-pair communication?


      A tip I learned for Cat5: Some cords have rubber pin protectors (little hoods over them, on the ends of the cable), so that if you yank the cable while untangling or pulling it out of a pipe or whatever, the little plastic pin won't get caught on something and snap off. However, the extra cost isn't justfied, because you can just take 4-6 inches of black electrical tape and wrap it around the connector to fully cover the pin (not extremely tight, though, because plastic is unforgiving of repetitive strains if they are intense), giving you a cable with a smooth end that won't get caught on anything. Obviously, you only put tape on the cable when you're doing wiring/untangling; take the tape off to plug it in to something!


      A couple notes (I'm getting on a soapbox here; I hate to pointlessly tell people what they probably already know, but I've seen too many so-called "experts" do things wrong):

      • In general, you shouldn't be yanking on cables anyway. That's a good way to break the soldering on some of the wires inside of the connector (or separate wires from crimped connectors), leading to a bad cable or one that has to be wiggled sometimes. Also, another thing that I see people do often is not winding/unwinding long cables properly; they can go straight on-to or off-of a spool, but if you're looping them by hand, you have to give a bit of a twist after every loop, or you're going to put strain on the wire. (Be careful when doing the twists to coax them all the way out throuugh the other end of the cable periodically (how often depends on the thickness and stiffness); you don't want a bunch of twists to pile up at the other end and make forceful kinks that could break the wires!)
      • If you have an RJ45 plug and the plastic pin has broken off, you might be able to get it to sit a little snugly inn a socket by wrapping a layer or two of electrical tape around the connector, just behind the pins. Don't use too much; you don't want to be forcing it into the female jack.


      [hours and hours later] - whoops, didn't hit submit before turning monitor off, hope someone else hasn't already posted all this info by now somewhere below... :)

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    12. Re:Limited real-world relevance by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Some cords have rubber pin protectors (little hoods over them, on the ends of the cable) Just so you know, they're called boots. You can even buy them separately in various (mainly primary) colors.
    13. Re:Limited real-world relevance by Not-a-Neg · · Score: 1

      I prefer to hang onto the middle of the cables and dangle the switch in the air so it can spin freely and untangle the cables for me.

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  5. Must be a slow news day by Kaptain+Kruton · · Score: 1

    Geeks untangling ethernet cables is not new.

    1. Re:Must be a slow news day by Overzeetop · · Score: 2, Funny

      Yes, but as a spectator sport? That takes innovation. And a lot of really easily-entertained spectators.

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    2. Re:Must be a slow news day by Igarden2 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      It can't be any more boring than most 'reality TV' we've been seeing since the writers' strike started.

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    3. Re:Must be a slow news day by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It can't be any more boring than most 'reality TV' we've been seeing.
      There, fixed that for you.
  6. Wow by GodCandy · · Score: 1

    Where was this contest when I worked in web hosting. We had one cabnet with over 1000 cables comming into it. It was a mess. I dont think there was a way to fix it...

    On another note... do we think that this will make the summer olympics??

    1. Re:Wow by ColdWetDog · · Score: 1

      On another note... do we think that this will make the summer olympics??

      Maybe the specialolympics.

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  7. I was nearly with you until... by east+coast · · Score: 5, Funny

    From the blurb: The winner, LA web developer Matthew Howell, had to untangle a dozen ethernet cables in record time leaving them in working order to win.

    Working order? Man, there's a catch to everything. I guess I can put my weed whacker with it's steel blades back...

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    1. Re:I was nearly with you until... by afidel · · Score: 2, Interesting

      When we did our computer room expansion several years ago we literally used hedge clippers to cut out the old cables from the raceway. We went from having 3 random colors for cables to having one color per cabinet with pre-labeled bundles. It makes it MUCH easier to maintain and I have some fun photos for a portfolio =)

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    2. Re:I was nearly with you until... by westyx · · Score: 1

      You wouldn't happen to have any pics online, would you? I always like to see people's racks to see if they're worse or better than mine - usually better, but i live in hope.

    3. Re:I was nearly with you until... by afidel · · Score: 1

      I've asked my Director to get me a copy since mine are at home and I can't RDP there from work. I should reply later today with a link or ten =)

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    4. Re:I was nearly with you until... by westyx · · Score: 1

      awesome, thanks :)

    5. Re:I was nearly with you until... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I also like to see pictures of peoples racks, but this isn't the place that I normally look for them

  8. snapping off the locking tabs by hedley · · Score: 2, Interesting

    My normal failure mode with a cable jumble, that reassuring crack as it breaks off ensuring a lurking connectivity problem when its used in the future. I suppose those tabs need to be maintained in the contest FTW no?

    1. Re:snapping off the locking tabs by wc_paladin · · Score: 2, Informative

      wrap some tape around all the cable ends, holding the tab down. I used to have the same problem. I was wasting time and money putting new tips on cables, until a friend of mine showed me this.

    2. Re:snapping off the locking tabs by LinuxDon · · Score: 1

      Perhaps you would have been better off by investing in some protection caps ;)

    3. Re:snapping off the locking tabs by adolf · · Score: 1

      That doesn't do any good for cables which are both already tangled, and already terminated.

  9. Cup stacking for nerds? by binaryspiral · · Score: 2, Funny

    I'll bet the national championships will end up on ESPN2 during the middle of the night... just like those tweens stacking cups.

    Another sport that deserves a WTF? award.

    1. Re:Cup stacking for nerds? by mbourgon · · Score: 1

      Can't forget the Magic: The Gathering we saw late one night. Complete with color commentary, whiteboard, instant replays, etc. It was both hysterical and sad at the same time.

      After that was marbles. One cool thing was that a 10-year-old beat out all the 40-year-olds.

      I suspect Mike Judge saw that too, and that's where The Ocho came from.

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    2. Re:Cup stacking for nerds? by Wolvie+MkM · · Score: 1

      ... And will still somehow beat out the NHL playoffs in ratings...

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  10. Just part of my job by smooth+wombat · · Score: 4, Funny
    This is what one of our wiring closets looks like. Untangling cables to have some sense of order is just another job duty.


    And in case anyone is wondering, yes, those are punchdown boxes you see. It would be horrible to run the cable directly to the switch without having boxes and patch cables on each end.

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    1. Re:Just part of my job by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If ever you have to send a guy in to untangle the mess, make sure he's all greased down in marinara sauce in case he collapses from the effort.

    2. Re:Just part of my job by Ctrl-Z · · Score: 1

      I wouldn't want to claim ownership of that in a public forum. Are you looking for pity?

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    3. Re:Just part of my job by xSauronx · · Score: 1

      he certainly isnt looking to impress prospective employers.

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    4. Re:Just part of my job by networkBoy · · Score: 1

      It's better than this (not mine)
      This is one of mine as is this and that

      -nB

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    5. Re:Just part of my job by ColdWetDog · · Score: 1
      You fool! You've exposed His Noodlyness for all to see!

      You're in a heap of trouble, boy.

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    6. Re:Just part of my job by smooth+wombat · · Score: 1

      It's not mine per se. It's where I work. That's the way it looks after I've done a small amount of organization to the cables.

      One of the first things I asked if could be done when I started here was to go through each closet and try to get them organized. Make sure they cables were wrapped around each other, each cable was labeled, etc. Obviously my request hasn't been acted upon.

      At least I've been able to document what device is using what cable number connected to what port on a switch. Granted, others haven't been keeping up with the changes but at least I try.

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  11. How do they standardize the nest? by SCHecklerX · · Score: 1

    But how can it be fair if somebody gets a worse ball of clutter than another? Or do they do best x out of y?

    1. Re:How do they standardize the nest? by Fieryphoenix · · Score: 1

      By hiring a sailor to make a proper job of tying them all the same!

  12. Bah, make it tougher by SpaceLifeForm · · Score: 2, Funny

    Throw in power cables, phone lines, and mice to make it more realistic.

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  13. Are there rules? by msauve · · Score: 4, Informative

    I mean, is this legal?

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    1. Re:Are there rules? by 19thNervousBreakdown · · Score: 1

      Oh man, he's juicin'!

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    2. Re:Are there rules? by Oktober+Sunset · · Score: 1

      Not in Texas.

    3. Re:Are there rules? by morgan_greywolf · · Score: 3, Funny

      I mean, is this legal [polywater.com]? Provided that everyone involved is of the age of consent, I'd say yes.

    4. Re:Are there rules? by ockegheim · · Score: 1

      It seems there are no rules governing what one might happen to learn on Slashdot...

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    5. Re:Are there rules? by chuckymonkey · · Score: 2, Funny

      Wow, KY for nerds!

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  14. This week, on the Ocho! by Ngarrang · · Score: 2, Funny

    The Japanese still have us beat on wacky game shows.

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  15. heh by apodyopsis · · Score: 1

    I like the way that they set them up for the competitors - shove them in a clothes dryer for 3 minutes and let them tangle naturally. That explains my girlfriends socks and stuff after each wash around my house.

    1. Re:heh by ImpShial · · Score: 2, Informative

      That explains my friend who is a girl's socks and stuff after each wash around my house.


      There. Fixed that for ya' This is Slashdot, after all.


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  16. Sport? by QuietLagoon · · Score: 1

    More like, people with too much time on their hands.

  17. his secret? by Sidlon · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I hear he spent a lot of time training with this.

    1. Re:his secret? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Pure evil. I hate you.

    2. Re:his secret? by tj2 · · Score: 1

      As do I.

    3. Re:his secret? by Aehgts · · Score: 1

      I hear he spent a lot of time training with this.
      My God, my time, it's gone!
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    4. Re:his secret? by roger_and_out · · Score: 1

      My stars! This _is_ addictive. I have just wasted even more time than I usually do reading \.

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  18. The goggles.... by ArsenneLupin · · Score: 1

    meow!

  19. Speed Cabling by Mickyfin613 · · Score: 1

    Stick to chess, four-eyes.

  20. Missing a key part to this competition by tscheez · · Score: 1

    You should have to untangle the cables with a minimum of down time.

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    1. Re:Missing a key part to this competition by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No way, you should do it before a tcp timeout. thus without down time.

  21. Oh noes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    When you unplug the cable to untangle it in the game, you unplug it IN REAL LIFE!

  22. This isn't going anywhere... by rickb928 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    ...since this is precisely what I do in my sleep, after all the MCSE weenies who weren't allowed to touch the cables in class have left for the day.

    Now, a hunt for the loose terminator in a Thinnet network, or the forced-duplex port in your Cisco stack, or the one Linksys VPN router with different firmware out among the 50+ telecommuters, or even the splitters over the ceilings in your Localtalk network at the elementary school, or any number of real-world-ish scenarios.

    Bah. Like playing pool for money. Too much like real work. And playing for beer makes you pee too much.

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    1. Re:This isn't going anywhere... by qoncept · · Score: 0

      Looks like the countersink flange went out on the CD-7 unit multiplier, knocking out hydraulic torque to the electric heat riser. That's right. Loser.

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    2. Re:This isn't going anywhere... by erzeszut · · Score: 0

      hunt for the loose terminator in a Thinnet network...
      Errrrg. This just gave me an unwanted flashback.
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    3. Re:This isn't going anywhere... by EtherMonkey · · Score: 2, Funny

      Thinnet? LOCALTALK??? Are you stuck in the '80's?


      Next thing you know, you'll be talking about memory optimization for Win3.11 with QMM, filtering SAP advertisements on the WAN, or configuring TCP/IP packet drivers so you can use this new Internet program called "Mosaic."

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    4. Re:This isn't going anywhere... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's QEMM; and I believe there was a version for win95?

    5. Re:This isn't going anywhere... by nomadic · · Score: 1

      Next thing you know, you'll be talking about memory optimization for Win3.11 with QMM, filtering SAP advertisements on the WAN, or configuring TCP/IP packet drivers so you can use this new Internet program called "Mosaic."

      Have you heard of this new "token ring" invention? It is quite a promising development.

    6. Re:This isn't going anywhere... by creeva · · Score: 1

      Token Ring - you mean there is something newer then thinnet with lantastic's native proprietary protocl? I still waiting for the day I can get to google via netbui

    7. Re:This isn't going anywhere... by afidel · · Score: 1

      I was doing work on tolken ring networks just 4 years ago. Of course I worked for Big Blue at the time so that explains it, but there are a surprising number of legacy systems out there still churning away, like they say if it ain't broke don't fix it.

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    8. Re:This isn't going anywhere... by Stanistani · · Score: 1

      >a hunt for the loose terminator in a Thinnet network

      Aaaaaagh! You've triggered my PTSD again.

    9. Re:This isn't going anywhere... by rickb928 · · Score: 1

      Don't contradict them. While they were trying to figure out how many of their Ethernet switches were Class 1 bridges, and did they violate some hop rule, I was sniffing my Token-Ring network and explaining to the boss how much more money it would cost to move to Ethernet, having been told by the database vendor that it was the 'Token Ring stuff' that was causing the performance problems. And showing the boss how long it took for the server to respond, vs how long it took for the workstation to receive the packet from the server. Lots of fun. Token-Ring rocked. Mine got up to 94% utilization before they replaced it with switched 100mb Ethernet, and then we discussed all the money we spent to gain the -1ms latency... aww gee.

      ps- all you l0sers, in teh old days you pretty much had to know how stuff worked. No Internet to Google 'arp' and 'collision' and hope someone else had exactly your problem. Or course, back then, every had EXACTLY your problem.

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    10. Re:This isn't going anywhere... by geminidomino · · Score: 1

      I've cabled Pixar, Sun, Yahoo, SGI, Solectron, Intel and a few others... So what? With 10 minutes and $10, I could send any of them a telegram too...

  23. OT: What has happened to slashdot? by Tony+Hoyle · · Score: 1

    It's changed its logo.. it's no longer 'news for nerds' and the look of the entire story has changed. Just seemed to happen with this story - previous ones come up normal.

    1. Re:OT: What has happened to slashdot? by vtscott · · Score: 2, Informative

      The change only seems to be on stories in idle.slashdot.org. Maybe taco is testing it out before letting it loose on the rest of the site... I hope not though, because I'm not a fan of the new theme.

    2. Re:OT: What has happened to slashdot? by ardin,mcallister · · Score: 1

      its cause this is idle.slashdot.org

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    3. Re:OT: What has happened to slashdot? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      idle.slashdot.org

      Are people going to comment about this every time a story from this section makes it to the front page?

    4. Re:OT: What has happened to slashdot? by u38cg · · Score: 1

      Don't worry, Idle has been like this for a while. We agree it looks hideous; complaining about it is a recognised spectator sport.

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  24. The sport is misnamed by presearch · · Score: 1

    It's not speed cabling, it's wireball.
    Speed cabling (hooking the wires up) would be round two of the geek triathlon.

    Round three: ???

    1. Re:The sport is misnamed by veganboyjosh · · Score: 2, Funny

      Round four: Profit!

  25. Basic Skill for Sailors by aquatone282 · · Score: 1

    One of the first things you learn on a sailboat is any line left unattended will soon tie itself into a knot - usually at the worst possible time.

    I've noticed the same thing with networking and power cabling both at home and at work.

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    1. Re:Basic Skill for Sailors by Stanistani · · Score: 1

      I call this 'Friendly Snakes Syndrome'

  26. Can't be LA by angus_rg · · Score: 1

    A contest based on cables and speed would have to be held in the Valley.

  27. Round 3: Hack the results. by Organic+Brain+Damage · · Score: 1

    The winners of Geek Triathalons never bother with round 1 or 2. They compete only in round 3. In round 3, the competitors hack into the result tracking database and alter the results in their favor.

  28. I can't believe... by RealErmine · · Score: 4, Funny

    that there is finally a story where my following formalization of the process of wire entanglement is on-topic.


    Kevin's First Law: For any number of wires, strings or similar objects, the probability of complex entanglement between them increases exponentially with the inverse of distance. Time required to entangle is also affected in a similar fashion. This phenomenon can be observed in consequence, but not in action.


    Also, for those who are interested, my second law is formalized thusly:


    Kevin's Second Law: There exists no robot that cannot be improved in form or function by the addition of a flamethrower.

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    1. Re:I can't believe... by orielbean · · Score: 1

      I found these great Velcro tie wraps at Home Depot the other day. You get like 50 of them for about 5 bucks and they stay tethered to the cables. They are great for cabling.

    2. Re:I can't believe... by roman_mir · · Score: 1

      Roman's corollary: Those robots that already have 1 or more flamethrowers can always use another one.

  29. Sure it's all fun and games now... by clickety6 · · Score: 1

    ..but wait until some Geek called Alexander takes out his light sabre and just cuts all the cables in one go...

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  30. Gordian Knot by Hoi+Polloi · · Score: 1
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  31. obligatory by Zidane-The-Dom · · Score: 1

    hey, i bet nobody thought of this......

    in soviet russia, cables untangle you!

    1. Re:obligatory by cparker15 · · Score: 1

      If you're going to do it, do it right:

      In Soviet Russia, cable untangles YOU !!

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  32. THE sport for Asperger's by ashitaka · · Score: 1

    In my younger days, before they finally figured out what the issue was, I would spend hours untangling knotted balls of string. I got very good at it and still derive a certain pride from turning a tangled mess of cabling into a cleanly laid-out network system.

    The focus required to see which cables are tangled up where and to identify the loops that, once pulled out, will free up a myriad of other cables is just the type of ability you see in Asperger's and other high-order autistics.

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  33. spaghetti cable? by IGnatius+T+Foobar · · Score: 1

    The first public competition was held in an LA gallery for a $50 gift certificate to a local Italian restaurant.
    I'm going to guess that after a day of speedcabling, the winner probably won't order the spaghetti.
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  34. Irritating Wire, the Japanese version by spun · · Score: 4, Funny

    Some of the cables will be live and have shorts in the insulation.

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    1. Re:Irritating Wire, the Japanese version by Grrreat · · Score: 1

      Yeah, that would be more realistic. It makes it much more challenging that way. It takes a steady hand(Operation TM).

  35. Hard Drive Units by kcbanner · · Score: 1

    "To get them to replicate the conditions of the wires found snaking and choking their way around hard drive units, monitors and printers in offices worldwide..."
    Hard drives, eh? So your ethernet cables are inside the case, or what?
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    1. Re:Hard Drive Units by lazarusdishwasher · · Score: 1

      Hard drives, eh? So your ethernet cables are inside the case, or what?
      No, the hard drives are outside of the case.
  36. Ancient Boredom Buster by contraba55 · · Score: 1

    Ever been on a fishing trip where you had to wait a couple of hours of sailing with nothing to do and no tech to distract yourself with? Try and tie a knot in a rope that your mate can't untie. This ethernet cable game is just a newer version of the same old thing.

  37. Re:Bah, make it tougher by Limburgher · · Score: 1

    And it doesn't even really matter which kind of mouse, I've seen both. . .

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  38. "Ethernet Cables"? by CohibaVancouver · · Score: 2, Informative
    untangle a dozen ethernet cables

    What the hell are 'ethernet cables,' anyway? Ethernet is a protocol. Back in the good ol' days I set up Ethernet LANs with 10BASE-2 coax cable.

    1. Re:"Ethernet Cables"? by creeva · · Score: 1

      maybe they are doing rj-11 - possible RG-58?

    2. Re:"Ethernet Cables"? by phozz+bare · · Score: 1

      Maybe they're Wi-Fi cables.

  39. Re:Basic Skill for Sailors / Sound Engineers by Matheus · · Score: 2, Informative

    As much as I love a good round of detangling the ether.. I'm not exactly doing that everyday. Every sound gig resembles the following: Find the boxen/buckets of mic/power/adapter cables, untangle the mess left by the wank the night before, make a bad band sound good then untangle all those same cables from their gear and the beverages they have spilled throughout the night and just early enough that it has begun to congeal and stick and properly wrap to try to be nice the next shmoe unlike said wank from the night before.

    Add to that a mix of christmas lights that some band thought would look cool and the raw wiring that's frays grab each other like teeny-boppers at a rave and you have a whole pile of fun on your hands 8}

  40. Re:Bah, make it tougher by sjbe · · Score: 2, Funny

    Not to mention that it should be done under a poorly lit desk with insufficient room for more than one arm at a time while someone tries to do work around you during the contest.

  41. Bah 12 cables? by hurfy · · Score: 1


    lol, we used to dye rolls of stockinette for a customer. Do you have any idea what happens when you put a 75ft long sock in the washing machine? in the dryer? you really have to see the knot it makes to believe it ;) 30 min in washer and 30 min to untangle it, rinse and repeat...err repeat to rinse actually.

    I like the idea of having some live and having to remove the free ones tho :)

  42. Italian restaurant? by cheesecake23 · · Score: 1

    The first public competition was held in an LA gallery for a $50 gift certificate to a local Italian restaurant.
    I assume this was because the restaurant owner needed help untangling spaghetti?
  43. FUBAR by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Anyone know why this one particular article's layout is completely fubar?

  44. Elbinian networking by wsanders · · Score: 1

    We just installed a new POP in Elbonia. It was either thinnet or a very sad-looking donkey.

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  45. Re:Basic Skill for Sailors / Sound Engineers by kent_eh · · Score: 1

    Not just spilled beverages either. I had a cable heap (containing mic, speaker, lighting and god knows what else) to untangle which had been polluted by both beverages and the inevitable result of massive overconsumption of beverages... Good thing I was able to raid some surgical gloves fro the first aid kit.

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  46. What about RJ45 Crimp speed? by mathx · · Score: 1

    A tech at one of my previous companies would win this. We had a bad cable end on a major uplink line. He recrimped it in 43s. I this most tcpsessions even stayed up. Cable was good for years after.

    1. Re:What about RJ45 Crimp speed? by drmofe · · Score: 1

      CAT5 or CAT6?

  47. Math theory? (Or really pushing the geek envelope) by ehud42 · · Score: 1

    A common ice-breaker game we play with youth is to form a circle and then reach across and hold hands. But with each of your hands, you must hold the hand from 2 different people. (Looking down from the top it looks like a team huddle / cheer) Now without letting go, unravel yourself into 1 or more circles that may or may not be interlocked.

    I have also witnessed a friend untangle a large / long single wire that was quite a "rat's nest", not be starting from one end, but by starting in the middle and simply expanding the 'loops'.

    My point is - it's amazing how well this actually works (when the group cooperates) and it makes me wonder if anyone has attempted any formal theorems on whether or not it is possible to untangle a collection of strings.

    (The cosmology jokes should abound...)

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  48. Level Playing field by Thelasko · · Score: 1

    The fact that the cables are randomly jumbled gives some players an unfair advantage. It would be better if they had to unplug the correct piece of equipment from the jumble. Fastest time wins. If you unplug the wrong device you are disqualified. That way everyone can use the same setup and it will be fair.

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  49. TACO - YOU HOMOSEXUAL ANUS LICKER!!!!!1 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The change only seems to be on stories in idle.slashdot.org. Maybe taco is testing it out before letting it loose on the rest of the site... I hope not though, because I'm not a fan of the new theme.

    Hey Taco - CAN'T YOU TAKE A FUCKING HINT?!? I'm not the only one who can't stand the fucking changes.
  50. gPlanarity by cyrilc · · Score: 1

    This computer game (gPlanarity) is a good for training oneself to speedcabling.

  51. An ex-geek's house by TomC2 · · Score: 1

    About a year and a half ago we rented a small terrace house, at which we discovered the owner used to run a software company from. We opened the cupboard under the stairs, and were greeted with more CAT5 than I've ever seen in a domestic dwelling in my life. Some of it was colour coded in some strange system using electrical tape, which must have made some sense to someone at some point, and lots of the connectors were connected some ancient-looking patch box, with the patchings between each plug hand-wired on the underside. It took me some time to figure out what this was all about - the TELEPHONE extensions had also been wired up using CAT5, hence the strange patch box thing. So not only did I have to figure out which socket in which room they all went to (there were at least two network sockets per room), I also had to work out which one ended in a network socket and which one went to a phone. But even once I'd figured out where every phone and networks socket in the house went to in this cupboard, I'd still only identified approx 60% of the cables. So whether he'd wired up the loft, the basement, or had some wires going into the neighbouring buildings I never did find out. In amongst all this, there was also about a dozen TV aerial co-axial leads going to different rooms of the house, also labelled using electrical tape which only made sense once I'd deciphered the network cables. Yet in spite of there being such a comprehensive system of aerial cabling throughout the house, the actual TV aerial on the roof was broken and incapable of receiving any TV channels at all. After about a week of trial and error, I eventually wrote up my findings onto a couple of sides of paper, stuck them on the inside door of the cupboard, for the benefit of future tenants.

    1. Re:An ex-geek's house by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I found a network software engineer using telephone (straight pair) wire for a network connection. Yes, it worked. No, it wasn't fast. Nearly every packet he sent collided with itself reflecting off the impedance mismatch.

  52. Re:Bah, make it tougher by milsoRgen · · Score: 1

    Throw in power cables, phone lines, and mice to make it more realistic. And dried up cola stickiness...
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  53. Not tape by visible.frylock · · Score: 1

    Rubber bands ftw

    easier to get off

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  54. Re:Basic Skill for Sailors / Sound Engineers by jsiren · · Score: 1

    Every sound gig resembles the following: Find the boxen/buckets of mic/power/adapter cables, untangle the mess left by the wank the night before, make a bad band sound good then untangle all those same cables from their gear and the beverages they have spilled throughout the night and just early enough that it has begun to congeal and stick and properly wrap to try to be nice the next shmoe unlike said wank from the night before.

    And the following night the next shmoe does the exact same routine, starting with untangling the mess left by the wank the night before.

    Somehow the properly wrapped cables manage to turn themselves into a tangled mess when left alone overnight.

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