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Help Slashdot Test Our New Data Center
After many years of living in California, Slashdot is preparing to move to a new data center in Chicago, and we need your help. We have our new site running a dump of our database from a few days ago. You can hit it at beta.slashdot.org. Please go there, post comments, submit stories, and do whatever you do normally. Or maybe abnormally — run crawlers, write poll spamming robots or something. If you find any crazy issues, please submit them to our sourceforge tracker. If you're curious, the new system features 18 2x quad-core 2.3 GHz webservers each with 8 gigs of RAM, and 4 quad-core 2.3 GHz databases with 16 gigs of RAM.
it's working gre
I'm a rabbit startled by the headlights of life
Not much fun to play with a system with old stuff from a few days ago. How about a real test with more current content?
Wow...all that power just to push a few kilobytes of text to my computer.
But does it run linux?
my cowboy neal bot has already gained complete control of all survey functionality.
A Natalie Portman statue and a 10 gallon tub of hot grits or I wont give control back. Oh - and I want the ponies theme back. Permanently.
It's hard to believe that's how Micronians are made. Why don't we see it right now by having you both kiss one another?
Of course not!
Meh, I've got calculators with more hardware than that. :D
The World Wide Web is dying. Soon, we shall have only the Internet.
I'm off to ride the new iron!
Invenio via vel creo
3 fewer hops to 11, latency tripled to 85ms
I can't explain it (oh okay, maybe I can) when the database in question contains /. comments and old Jon Katz stories (quite apart from Taco's nicely spelled and eloquent posts), calling it a dump somehow seems appropriate in the more scatological sense of that word...
Blearf. Blearf, I say.
I have access to the storm botnet. Should I try to DDoS the new data center?
I couldn't create a new account on beta.slashdot.org
I think slashdot slashdotted themselves.
Is it true that more people vote for the winner of American Idol, than vote for the president? -Ali G.
using things like wget -r + ping to check how it changes with logs and stuff to check the results later :)
If you got more ideas [using scripts or so] post them to me, I'd be more than happy to use my computer to check the beta
Read and Comment at my BLOG
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"If you're curious, the new system features 18 2x quad-core 2.3 GHz webservers each with 8 gigs of RAM, and 4 quad-core 2.3 GHz databases with 16 gigs of RAM" What do you mean, "If" ?
So let me get this straight. You want us to Slashdot....Slashdot?
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"You are not remembered for doing what is expected of you." - Atul Chitnis
> If you're curious, the new system features 18 2x quad-core 2.3 GHz webservers each with 8 gigs of RAM, and 4 quad-core 2.3 GHz databases with 16 gigs of RAM.
What's the power consumption on this set up?
If you want me to try to walk out with your servers, just post the address. I'll let you know if I'm successful, but odds are you'll know long before then...
-Rob
Biblical fiscal responsibility
twitter will create a few more sockpuppets and bring this rig to its rack-mounted knees.
Web2.0: I love when people Flickr my cuil and digg my boingboing until my google is reddit and I start to yahoo
Vinnie and Rocco, here, they do a good job for the others in the neighborhood. shame to have anybody run any of them viruses or whatever on ya. we can work somethin' out.
if this is supposed to be a new economy, how come they still want my old fashioned money?
That's nearly as powerful as my CS server...
AMD or INTEL?
What is the raid setup?
Hardware raid? raid 5? raid 6? raid 50? others?
SAS? scsi?
MB chipset?
How are they linked to each other Dual or more teamed gig-e
10 gig-e?
others?
do they intentionally slashdot the beta.slashdot.
Invenio via vel creo
Your FAQ is from 2000 http://slashdot.org/faq/tech.shtml#te050
Who moves from California to Chicago Illinois? I mean I understand it is cheaper out there but there IS a reason for that.
I'm sure my lethal DoS over my 2 Meg ADSL line will
bring your site to its knees!!!
Mehehehahehahehahhhhhehahhhh!!!!
Pain is merely failure leaving the body
How soon we forget.
http://it.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/11/03/2054208
WISE choice, Slashdot. Wise choice.
Nobody should have any sort of datacenter in CA cuz it's too hot and the power to cool it is too expensive. Chicago was a far better choice! Plus it's closer to Wisconsin where I live so the response time will be better. That's even more important ;)
Google's Super Secret Search Algorithm: SELECT @search_results FROM internet WHERE @search_results = 'good'
It could well be just the cost of it. Considering the bandwidth slashdot must go through each month, there could be a serious saving.
"the new system features 18 2x quad-core 2.3 GHz webservers each with 8 gigs of RAM, and 4 quad-core 2.3 GHz databases with 16 gigs of RAM"
I just got an erection
I was always under the impression that database servers needed more CPU horsepower than webservers.
I went to eat some animal crackers and the box said, "Do not eat if seal is broken." I opened the box and sure enough..
... all running MS Access DB's in Windows Vista!
I, for one, welcome our new beta Slashdot overlords.
Keep that dupe site up as a mirror universe to "our" slashdot. There, evil and conquest will reign supreme over discussion and civil discourse. Let all of our darkest thoughts and perversions run wild without editorial control! A no holds barred Darwinian process of devouring the weak will replace moderation. Women will be plentiful in this mirror universe of /.
You can banish out of favor "real" slashdotters there, kind of like that movie where all the prisoners were sent to that island where they formed their own warring societies. It will be the slashdot version of Austraila!
Oh right, another of one of these 'upgrades' where we don't get any flashy improvements. Its backend you say? How do I as an average user know for sure?
Jumpstart the tartan drive.
It can't be that it's thirty minutes from everything, could it?
I am curious. Why would they be moving? Is it just a coinkydink that SourceForge is updating their privacy policy at the same time?
/. -- the Free Republic of technology.
Please, kill the 2-minute comment delay timer on beta.slashdot. We really want to test it!
Invenio via vel creo
If those flash adverts were a little less intrusive and didn't have those anoying animations then I wouldn't feel the need to install noscript.
.. wait ... waaaaiit .... wait some more ..now why did I click on that link, what was I thinking .. never mind, on to the next site ......
On another site, they have talking adverts, I forget the name, I ain't ever going back there.
Don't the advertisers realize that pissing people off isn't the way to sell product.
Also, the page freezing on google-analytics.com and doubleclick.net is
davecb5620@gmail.com
So you want a king hell DDOS attack to test your new servers? Slashdot Slashdot. Let's roll.
Starting Nmap 4.62 ( http://nmap.org/ ) at 2008-05-23 11:54 PDT
Interesting ports on beta.slashdot.org (216.34.181.45):
Not shown: 1713 closed ports
PORT STATE SERVICE VERSION
80/tcp open http Apache httpd 1.3.41 ((Unix) mod_perl/1.31-rc4)
443/tcp open ssl/http Apache httpd 1.3.41 ((Unix) mod_perl/1.31-rc4)
Device type: PBX|general purpose
Running (JUST GUESSING) : Vodavi embedded (86%), FreeBSD 6.X (85%)
Aggressive OS guesses: Vodavi XTS-IP PBX (86%), FreeBSD 6.3-RELEASE (85%)
No exact OS matches for host (test conditions non-ideal).
Uptime: 35.124 days (since Fri Apr 18 08:59:04 2008)
Network Distance: 12 hops
TRACEROUTE (using port 80/tcp) ... 12 no response
HOP RTT ADDRESS
1
13 67.70 beta.slashdot.org (216.34.181.45)
OS and Service detection performed. Please report any incorrect results at http://nmap.org/submit/ .
Nmap done: 1 IP address (1 host up) scanned in 214.082 seconds
How about because California is full of self-important shitheads like you, who denigrate the rest of the country without even understanding it.
Knowledge is how to play a game, intelligence is how to win, wisdom is knowing what game to play.
This will end up being like that 'Hack Our Box' thing that TSS did a few years ago, where no one hacked the box, but fucked up a whole bunch of other things.
This is just asking for trouble.
And of all weekends, this may be the first weekend of 2008 to see three sunny days in a row, let alone even two. No thanks, but I'm not that dedicated of a /. lurker.
On a side note, you may notice the absence of tests from the state of Ohio. That won't be a statistical anomaly; in fact, you can ignore that. It is indeed a rare event of the daystar emerging out of the clouds for three consecutive days. It's quite an event in this neck of the woods.
its taking very long to load pages. the site seems to be slasdotted!!!
Pulled from the Rex Swain's HTTP viewer site.
Life is not for the lazy.
I am surprised at this, is this a way of trimming back on staff?
I can't imagine anyone who finds Calif. at least halfway likable
(being an Oregonian, I don't) wanting to live or go near Chicago.
there is an old saying:
If the pilgrims had landed in California the east coast would be a wilderness.
Exactly what in my post was self-important? Have you ever been to Chicago during the middle of Summer? How about during the middle of Winter? My point was that California has much milder weather, is closer to so many city centers, has a varied geography that is interesting and useful for recreational activities and we have a functional beach. You might want to take some of these into consideration when you choose where to live.
I'll just post this to Digg :-)
Bill Clinton: Pimp we can believe in. - The Shirt!!!
It's power, and cooling, and space.
Most of the DC's in CA are at capacity, if not above, if you're looking for racks and racks of equipment. For example, Google and Microsoft have first right of refusal for either their servers (search or xbox live).
I know that a few other companies are looking at either supplementing their CA rackspace with rackspace in Chicago.
Hopefully it's just downtown and not at 64th and Oakley. http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=6436+S+Oakley+Ave,+Chicago,+IL+60636&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=28.611123,60.292969&ie=UTF8&ll=41.780049,-87.680275&spn=0.00656,0.01472&t=k&z=16&layer=c&cbll=41.776747,-87.681011&panoid=R4fqWJEJkVCRco2uu3GK9Q&cbp=1,248.03517600888696,,1,8.383780676689486 Security's pretty tight down there.
Welcome to Chicago!
For those asking why not California, lots of good internet structure here (those heavy usage financial firms have data centers here for a reason)
Run and catch, run and catch, the lamb is caught in the blackberry patch.
Will it Blend?
Yes but is it a Beowulf cluster?
The company I work for also has servers at a data center in the Chicago area. Which one are you in?
:)
Are you my neighbor?
Then why do you guys keep moving to my state, and messing it up?
We have no beaches, we have 2 cities, the weather is NEVER mild, but yet we have an endless stream of Californians coming to to mess everything up.
Living in AZ, sometimes I wonder if Californians are like locusts, they all swarmed to CA, killed it, and now have to move on to somewhere else.
A patriot must always be ready to defend his country against his government. -edward abbey
Chicago has far less available bandwidth than California. Also, your new servers are already running slower than these old ones. That's bad if we can Slashdot you. Perhaps you should just stick to what works?
Still waiting on Serviscope_minor to wake up to fucking reality and realize that Jessica Price isn't going to fuck him.
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Nice work!
Rich people are eccentric. Poor people are strange. Me, I'd be happy with odd.
Should have bought a Mac!
ab -n 10000 -c 10 http://beta.slashdot.org/
This is ApacheBench, Version 2.0.40-dev apache-2.0
Copyright 1996 Adam Twiss, Zeus Technology Ltd, http://www.zeustech.net/
Copyright 2006 The Apache Software Foundation, http://www.apache.org/
Benchmarking beta.slashdot.org (be patient)
apr_socket_recv: Connection reset by peer (104)
Total of 144 requests completed
While slashdotting slashdot, keep an eye on this: http://www.downornot.com/beta.slashdot.org
Andy
Your a moron. San Diego aint shit compared to Chicago. Chicago is a real metropolis compared to San Dirego and even the city (more like a big suburb) LA.
Some pictures of the new setup would be great.
Slashdot: Failed Car Analogies. Amateur Lawyering. Anecdote Battles.
That works out well. We don't want you in the midwest anyway.
Give me Classic Slashdot or give me death!
Unlike the slashdot.org search which redirects to google (good choice,really), the beta site attempts the slash search which is still broken. (Returns no Story results for "Tassie", which is right there on the main beta page.)
If I have been able to see further than others, it is because I bought a pair of binoculars.
Hey I don't mind, a lot of those Californians brought them bandwidth which we get to enjoy. I have servers at two facilities here in AZ and really all the bandwidth available to me that I can shake a stick at.
Locusts know when their home is about to fall into the ocean*. So maybe they're on to something.
*No idea if locusts know that, but it fits my metaphor.
Reviewing just the first hour of video games.
If you've worked in a datacenter as I have and do, you know that the weather is always the same inside the datacenter, as is the lighting, and generally the sound. Day runs to night runs to day. Its always the same. Generally when I make a trip to the datacenter, there is no time for recreation anyway, so none of that matters.
In seriousness, my employer is also going to be moving out of a California datacenter in 2008, likely to Chicago or Dallas. Reasons for /. are probably similar to ours:
I'm leaning on #1 as being most likely. Better power grid, cheaper power. Lower cost, higher profit. Same reason we are looking..
Been to California (4 weeks), New York (7 years), and Chicago (2 weeks). The pizza in California sux. NYC is better, but I think Chicago gets the nod. Good move Slashdot!
- The Kessel run is for nerf herders. I can circumnavigate the entire Central Finite Curve in a lot less than 12 parse
; DROP DATABASE--
UTF-8: There and Back Again
Is there a new RSS site too?
I can't log in to the new site using Opera. IE works just fine. But with Opera, the system returns me to the screen it should, but not logged in. The login doesn't work in any access technique -- main page, sidebar, even the Ajax-y popup thing.
It's validating, because if I use invalid data, I get "Danger Will Robinson!" But if I use my actual login/pwd, it silently fails.
I'm not about to create a Sourceforge account just for this, though... I suspect they'll find enough bugs without my direct help.
Stressed? Me? Of course not. Stress is what a rubber band feels before it breaks, silly.
I live just south of the loop (downtown Chicago). Using Comcast cable, I get routed to Boston, back to Chicago, then to New York, then back to Elk Grove (near Chicago)!
Comcast from a suburb just north of Chicago does nearly the same thing:
Chicago, to Chartford CT, back to Chicago, to New York Savvis, then to Elk Grove, and finally to beta.slashdot.org.
That doesn't make a whole lot of sense... Who the hell setup Comcast's routing??
For comparison, on the Illinois Century Network (an Internet2-capable ISP for many universities and research labs), I get routed through Chicago Cogentco, then right to Chicago Savvis, and finally to beta.slashdot.org
Can anyone explain Comcast's weird routes?
It's probably cheaper much like our houses here and cost of living is to you. You have a $500,000 2000 sq foot ranch while we can buy a 3,500 two story for the same price. The winters are cold but the summers are humid and hot. We have all 4 seasons.
"During My Service In The United States Congress, I Took The Initiative In Creating The Internet." -Al Gore
Google is going to kill you with SEO for having duplicate content on that sub domain, even though you're pagerank on this site is through the roof.
"During My Service In The United States Congress, I Took The Initiative In Creating The Internet." -Al Gore
Ok but That arrangement will fit in one 42U rack and there are free racks at Intelenet just down the street besides CalPop and Technicolor. So I'm pretty sure that wasn't the reason.
Wow, don't take it personally dawg. Just back away from the gun...
Yes it does cost more to live here and that sucks. Luckily this housing crisis hit and housing prices are coming down. It's a good thing really. The thing is I like that while we have all four seasons here in California too most places never get colder then 45 degrees in the winter and when it's hot it's almost never humid. Personally I can't stand the humidity.
California would be the best state in the Union if it were entirely unpopulated. Beaches, mountains, rivers, etc. Just way too many Californians for my taste.
Wow, what an informative post!
not really an issue
If people can get past, can they get future? Best way to confuse a stoner
"You must wait a little bit before using this resource; please try again later."
Humidity's below 20 percent most of the time, it's cooler than 80F more than 360 days a year, housing prices are relatively inexpensive, and the views are spectacular! /Fairbanks, Alaska
What's your carbon footprint for your servers - are you green enough?
;-(
BTW: thanks for being so courteous to newbies
OpenBSD is a stable system. I ran it for a few months, but went back to Linux because I wanted to get back into the bleeding edge with its crashes, hangs.
OpenBSD served me well and I would not hesitate to recommend it to anyone desiring a stable, secure (except for the bug lately) system (read: business users) that doesn't crash.
Official Pi Ambassador -- inquire for details!
Can you please start listening on a v6 address?
But will it blend? ^_^
à_à
I can't log in! If I type the wrong password it tells me. If I type the right one, it still says "log in" on the top bar. Firefox 3.0b5/Ubuntu
Someone script something that will make slashcode context switch really quickly. Gotta make sure that TLB bug is nailed.
There's no failure quite as dissatisfying as a complete and total solution to the wrong problem.
Texas already has locusts; and the locals are losing the Darwinian contest to the Californians.
Every mans' island needs an ocean; choose your ocean carefully.
Why does ab return Apache/1.3.41 instead of something... well a little newer? Is the slashdot server really running on this?
Tibbon
tibbon.com
Someone appears to have flubbed the footer.
... inputdir
Either that or it's the best fortune ever on all of the pages.
Usage: fortune -P [] -a [xsz] [Q: [file]] [rKe9] -v6[+] dataspec
I lease a server from them and they're moving me into the new data center next week. Exciting stuff!
Nothing is inexplicable; only unexplained -Tom Baker, Doctor Who
Seriously? Does anyone here even understand what all that techno-jargon means?
No sig for now.
...will we be getting I helped test Slashdot t-shirts?
WARNING: Smartphones have side effects--most of them undocumented.
"When information is power, privacy is freedom" - Jah-Wren Ryel
for a monitoring account here..
;)
http://www.servermojo.com/view/slashdot
It will show the down/slashdotted times (if any) straight away but we'll have to wait for the daily update to see the charts for response times, daily uptimes etc. Bet you all can't wait eh?
$ ab -n 5000 -c 5 http://beta.slashdot.org/
This is ApacheBench, Version 2.0.40-dev apache-2.0
Copyright 1996 Adam Twiss, Zeus Technology Ltd, http://www.zeustech.net/
Copyright 2006 The Apache Software Foundation, http://www.apache.org/
Benchmarking beta.slashdot.org (be patient)
Completed 500 requests
Completed 1000 requests
Completed 1500 requests
Completed 2000 requests
Completed 2500 requests
Completed 3000 requests
Completed 3500 requests
Completed 4000 requests
Completed 4500 requests
Finished 5000 requests
Server Software: Apache/1.3.41
Server Hostname: beta.slashdot.org
Server Port: 80
Document Path: /
Document Length: 71365 bytes
Concurrency Level: 5
Time taken for tests: 1685.538664 seconds
Complete requests: 5000
Failed requests: 3715
(Connect: 0, Length: 3715, Exceptions: 0)
Write errors: 0
Total transferred: 357671196 bytes
HTML transferred: 355887895 bytes
Requests per second: 2.97 [#/sec] (mean)
Time per request: 1685.539 [ms] (mean)
Time per request: 337.108 [ms] (mean, across all concurrent requests)
Transfer rate: 207.23 [Kbytes/sec] received
Connection Times (ms)
min mean[+/-sd] median max
Connect: 111 231 523.0 137 9163
Processing: 857 1452 518.7 1347 7750
Waiting: 133 213 177.1 184 6685
Total: 1008 1684 737.6 1504 12390
Percentage of the requests served within a certain time (ms)
50% 1504
66% 1567
75% 1619
80% 1659
90% 1930
95% 3568
98% 4470
99% 4654
100% 12390 (longest request)
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