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Motley Crue Single Does Better On Rock Band
Erik J writes "Remember about six weeks ago when Motley Crue and Rock Band partnered to release a new single premiering first in the game before anywhere else? Come to find out their song 'Saints of Los Angeles' was downloaded over 47,000 times on the Xbox version alone, beating out digital services iTunes and Amazon, which were tapped only 10,000 times for the single."
I mean, 47,000 downloads is great and all, but there was a time when a new Crue album would sell in the MILLIONS.
SJW: Someone who has run out of real oppression, and has to fake it.
So people downloaded the Rock Band version (since it came out first), realized it sucked and didn't bother to get the amazon or itunes version?
Completely pointless comparisons. So what if it was only downloaded 10k times on itunes + amazon. There is still the meatspace market to consider, and the single hasn't released there yet. Some people still like material goods.
It seems pretty straightforward. Unfortunately, it seems like people (the author of the article, for example) are going to remark on how video game songs are the wave of the future...etc, etc.
Lets face it, Danzig is not a great singer or anything, but how many people can do a decent Mother? Vince Neil on the other hand, you have a pretty good chance.
This means that no one wants to listen to a poser, but everybody would like to be one.
It's more fun to rock out with your friends than to listen to a Motley Crue song. Nothing surprising about that, is there?
I don't knock your music taste, and I would prefer it if you didn't knock mine.
Many people are fans of 80s music of various genres, and that should be fully acceptable.
Anyone who really loved them would never have forgotten the umlaut.
A new and promising business model? Someone better alert the RIAA, this must become illegal, stat.
MrHanky is a fairly old-fashioned troll. While not being something you'd read on its own, it's very suitable for a Slashdot post. Consider "Motley Crue Single Does Better on Rock Band," filled with extremely gay comments. Very few people with any self respect will read that kind of crap, but within the context of the thread, it fits perfectly. "Why not?", an RSS reader, and mod points...perfect. Actually reading it? Not so.
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I AM a gay 80s track, you INSENSITIVE CLOD!
"When life gives you lemons, don't make lemonade. Make life take the lemons back!" -- Cave Johnson
Don't forget your Motley Crue t-shirt. All proceeds go to get their lead singer out of jail.
--RIAmAses! Let my MP3ople go!
He's on his WAAAAAYYY...Just set him FREEEEE
SJW: Someone who has run out of real oppression, and has to fake it.
Wait, are you implying there is something wrong with gay music?!??
You can't play the song on the Rock Band game by buying it on iTunes... They aren't just buying a song to listen to, it is a different product.
Most real Motley Crew fans aren't on iTunes. They're buying their CDs at walmart. The rockband purchasers are just being ironical. -G
This is good, it means another potential revenue source for musicians, since the era of selling truckloads of plastic discs with songs encoded on them for 15 bucks is coming to an end. The ability to "rock out" along side of a song is the sort of added value that musicians and even the record companies should be offering people to keep us buying their product.
But selling tracks online isn't the only way they could do this. Why not sell your CD in stores, and include with the disc a code that lets you download all the songs into Rock Band/GH? That would go a lot further towards convincing me to shell out 20 bucks for it.
One time I threw a brick at a duck.
Your post just reminded me of my all time favorite t-shirt slogan from the Onion:
"Your favorite band sucks."
-Rick
"Most people in the U.S. wouldn't know they live in a tyrannical state if it walked up and grabbed their junk." - MyFirs
The 80's were like sex with poop, the fact that lots of people are into it doesn't make it less repulsive by the non-poop-lovers.
Apparently more people want to be MÃtley Crüe than want to listen to them.
Heck I remember the doobie brothers back in the 70s when they were young, thin, energetic, and had hair on their heads.
The same song has also been played more than 200,000 times on youtube. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eyDLXVbE6YU
How can music have a sexual preference? Are you trying to suggest that perhaps the MAFIAA are being sexist or homophobic with their lawsuits!?!
> What about paying for it because they created the game and are trying to make a living selling it?
And what about only paying for it if it's any good instead?
In the UK we have a thing called "fit for purpose": if you buy a physical product and it's not "fit for purpose", you can just take it back for a full refund. It's even enough that the item didn't "fit the purpose" that you expected of it (within reason), regardless of anything that it might say on the outer box.
I see no justification whatsoever for paying for a game that is crap, regardless of the fact that its creators are trying to make a living. If they fail to make an interesting, playable game, then they should fail to earn good money from it.
I'm perfectly happy with "proportional recompense" though. Eg. if the game was crap for you then you could pay only $5, say. That would recompense the developers a little for having delivered an experience at least, even if that experience was crap.
And before you say "But people won't pay after the event", let me refer you to a well-received gem of wisdom that appeared in a recent Slashdot article: "Make your product for your fans, not for the downloaders who are not fans". Fans will pay, because they want to support the product, even to the extent of buying silly merchanidise and multiple copies. That's what makes them fans.
"The question of whether machines can think is no more interesting than [] whether submarines can swim" - Dijkstra
So nobody wants to listen to the music. But people who play to a game like that don't care if the music is horribly terrible, so they downloaded it.
New rule: If your song gets downloaded more as part of a music game than by people wanting to listen to the song, your song sucks.
Did I mention the song is just horrible?
Oh well, at least I still have hair on my head.
I checked out the What's Happening videos on youtube, very close to what I remember when I saw them in Saratoga, NY in 1977.
They wanted me to tell you that the NEW Motley Crue single is not 80's music. Something about how it's 2008 now, and the 80's doesn't want anything to do with that crap.
paintball
Troll?! Geeze people, get some taste. Montley Crue, like all hair metal, always has and always will such. Lemmy is one of the few guys left making real metal--right up there with Danzig and Dio!
"He who can destroy a thing, controls a thing." --Paul Atreides, Dune
So that means you're sexually attracted to other 80s tracks, right?
My favorite cover band, Crystal Shit. They do a Doors show, and it goes something like this.
I remember hearing radio ads for Crystal Ship playing at Hammerjack's in Baltimore back in the 80s.
Sorry, but it's just not acceptable. Hair bands were artificial pop music, and one of the underlying reasons that music has forever taken such a nosedive.
"He who can destroy a thing, controls a thing." --Paul Atreides, Dune
As someone who plays a lot of rhythm-based games (but not Guitar Hero, funnily enough, though I plan on buying it at SOME point... programming student here, too busy to have job) I can't begin to describe how boring most of the songs get after a while. DDR suffers from this problem -- that's why I play Stepmania, which is open source (incl. the song format). Put it this way: The Guitar Hero fans eager for a new fix outnumber the fans of an ageing pop-rock band that, like everyone else, was eventually spat out by the system. Not that surprising.
This could be an example of disconnected markets. I haven't given this much thought but on the surface that's the appearance I get. If that's the case, it's an opportunity for some people to make a little money and link them up, properly.
It wasn't intended as a troll, only as an explanation for how a game can expand the market for a piece of music. Naturally, I also wanted to present the perspective of a potential consumer of such music as well: one who doesn't like the music per se, but love it within the context of the game. It lends character to the persona you act out. Just like I'd never steal a car, I'd never listen to A Flock of Seagulls. But within the game, I do love doing both.
That said, having six "+1, interesting" mods and still ending up with a negative result is pretty successful.
Does that mean in 20 years hair bands will rule again? I'm sure the ozone is cringing.
There's a reason the Montreal Protocol came about in the 1980s.
Endless arguments over trivial contradictions in books written by ignorant savages to explain thunder in the dark.
2007 was one of the best years I can remember in a long, long time, for music. You just weren't listening to the right places.
As for the really big name acts:
Nine inch Nails - Year Zero(okay, was mostly a really striking departure from what we expect from music, but isn't that the point?)
Processor - My Industry (not technically big name, but should be -- released at the same time as year zero, so it was easily eclipsed, but it is well worth the download)
Radiohead - In Rainbows
Of course, the really good stuff came from the growing army of independant and smaller bands that don't have exposure, and that you'll be lucky to hear on last.fm, pandora, rantradio, or other icecast/shoutcast internet radio streams. There was a lot of emo stuff, too, although I haven't heard most of it, some of it isn't too bad(Arcade Fire - Neon Bible?), if you can get yourself past the "oh these kids and their emo" point, and dig through the corporate crap. There's also a huge amount of underground hip hop stuff out there, and some of that isn't too bad. Obviously 99% of the current music of crap, but 99% of everything is crap, and has always been crap. The good stuff *is* out there, though.
try ^ d - listen
Nyet to the Neins - Homely Architexture
were released right at the end of 2006, so may as well have been 2007. The latter is pretty damn good.
8 bit peoples toured, and I'm sure there's good stuff still being created there
Alex Gibson - Rockabye Baby!
DJ Earworm was active in 2007
Personally, I was too busy with work & school to do much, although I had some good ideas, and some really raw stuff, but nothing to compare to the above(especially year zero). I have a feeling Michael Crawford was in a similar state, since I don't see anything new on his page.
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