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What Is the Best Way To Disinfect Your Laptop?
akutz writes "I've had the flu since Tuesday afternoon. My wife picked me up from work with a temperature of 103.6 and it finally broke at 98.7 around 3am this morning. Yay. The problem is that I used my laptop during my periods of feverish deliriousness, contaminating my shiny 15" MacBook Pro with the icky influenza virus. I am asking my fellow Slashdotters if they have ever sought out a good way of disinfecting their lucky laptops after an illness. Do you use soap? A light acid bath? Just get the family dog to lick it until it looks clean?"
Then you won't have to worry about it.
for the crippling virus infecting their machines.
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Just spray some Lysol on a rag and wipe it down. If you are really worried, you could spray the machine directly, but I'd be concerned of damage.
Keyboard + Mouse + Sunlight. 30 minutes later it's clean.
I could be wrong, but I doubt that germs live very long on plastic.
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Set it out in the sunshine for about ten minutes. Sunlight is a great disinfectant
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Use the gentlest cleanser you can (the cleaner they sell for lcd televisions works pretty well), a microfiber cloth (not wet, just damp), and go over it once, let it dry, go over it again, let it dry, then a little bit of sunshine really does help kill germs.
Sounds like you might have been exposed to hypochondria as well. You should go to a specialist and have that checked out right away.
Use a condom?
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Get some cotton balls wet with rubbing alcohol, something with a high concentration (e.g. > 70%). Rub it all over your laptop. Wait about 2 minutes and all of it will evaporate, and your laptop will be clean. I use this on my keyboard/mice/macbook all the time.
If you've already had a given strain of the flu, you generally won't catch it again; your immune system is primed against that virus. So the laptop is little danger to you. Your immediate family probably got exposed through a thousand other shared items, so the laptop isn't making things noticeably worse for them, either. In short, I wouldn't worry about it.
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Just wait a day or two. The germs will die, you shouldn't get sick again since you just got done fighting it, and if your wife's going to get sick, I don't think the MacBook is going to be the reason why.
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Now that you have survived, and, correct me if I am wrong - but aren't you immune now to that virus?
That said, I'd say damp (as in no drips possible) cloth made damp by some soapy water to wipe it down ought to do the trick. The mantra in my EMT class (and a number of test questions) was "The best way to avoid spreading disease is to wash your hands often".
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I'm no biologist but, casting my mind back to riveting documentaries on the BBC...
Your body comes in contact with a new strain of a virus that it has no defense against. The virus moves in. The virus multiplies. Your body figures out how to fight it. Much of your feeling like crap is the process of your body fighting it.
If you get re-exposed in any kind of a short time frame, your body already knows how to produce the antibodies and doesn't get reinfected.
The reason you'll pick up multiple colds during a winter is because you're getting hit by multiple strains.
If re-exposure to the exact same strain was an issue, you'd have to burn your house down every time you got sick. Instead, the things you've come in to contact with are no risk to you, just to others who may not have immunity to that strain yet.
That being the case... Get over yourself, stop being a germophobe, use your laptop just fine.
If other people are using your laptop, they may have something to worry about. You're totally fine.
As for you using other people's stuff and being a raging germophobe, you can use sterilizing hand lotions after every usage... and you too can become one of the idiotic generation that try so hard to avoid any exposure that all they really achieve is having no built up immunity when things do get through.
Man up, get over your phobia, accept that getting sick is a normal part of building a tougher immune system, and get on with living.
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If you're the only one using it, why disinfect it? You did say you're over the cold, right? It isn't going absorb EM fields from the laptop and mutate there by making it immune to your immune system. Maybe less disinfectants would actually be a good idea in your case. Aside from what you get from your mother, your body needs to learn itself.
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Just about anything plastic-safe could be used such as a Lysol cleaner or diluted Dial liquid soap, but keep in mind that if you're the only one using it, you can't get sick from the same Influenza virus twice. Even if you get the Flu twice in a season, it's 2 strains that infected you. I'd only be concerned about the actual contact surfaces (KB, touchpad, mouse), and if you've got too much of the OCD, I'd suggest looking into something like the Virtually Indestructible Keyboard with integrated Mousing Stick. It is completely submersible in disinfecting solution up to the point that the cord joins the keyboard. Then I'd wrap the laptop in saran wrap except for the cooling vents. A little overboard, but probably effective.
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i use lysol wipes to clean my keyboard because unlike the spray i can make sure its not dripping inside on the motherboard. either way make sure its dry before you turn it back on just in case although i've never had a problem.
If you can wait about 2 days you are pretty safe.
Clorox (Sodium Hypochlorite) is a pretty good general disinfectant. About 3/4 cup in a gallon of water makes a good antiviral wash solution.
Isopropanol works fairly well too.
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First, turn off the laptop. The aluminum casing of the MacBook Pro can withstand wiping with Lysol, the active ingredient of which is benzalkonium chloride in a low concentration. Do not saturate the surface, but do leave it damp for a few minutes--then go back and wipe down with water. For the screen, simply wipe with distilled water. Use the black cleaning cloth that came with your computer--it is included in the same package as the installation disks.
Under no circumstances should you use anything other than water to clean the display.
If you are *really* paranoid, leave the computer out in bright sun for 30 minutes. While this is not really an "official" way of disinfecting things, the UVB rays could have enough energy to disrupt the activity of bacteria and viruses. If you were really serious about this approach, you'd get a dedicated UVC disinfection unit which would irradiate your laptop. But I don't know what that might do to the hardware. *shrug*
The point is, if you've been coughing as a result of your illness, you've already spread live viral particles all over the place. It's not all that useful to think about sterilization when your living environment is teeming with all kind of infectious organisms--not just viruses, but bacteria and fungi.
Actually, recent studies have found that higher humidity speeds up decay of influenza virus particles. Here's one article at the CDC. Quote: In all these studies, the decay of virus infectivity increased rapidly at relative humidity >40%. The increased survival of influenza virus in aerosols at low relative humidity has been suggested as a factor that accounts for the seasonality of influenza
You really don't want to give your nasties to anyone, so I would recommend this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piranha_solution
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...would be a UV-C Light Wand from this company.
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Let's assume you share this laptop with coworkers or some friends are coming over, or there's some other reason why people who might not have been exposed while you were sick will be exposed to virus particles protected by little blobs of snot on your laptop.
Take a cotton ball, soak it in isopropyl rubbing alcohol 70% concentration (commonly available at drugstore), squeeze some of the alcohol out so you aren't just dribbling it all over, and then rub down the keyboard, mousepad, screen, case etc with the cotton ball.
let it dry for a minute or two. Repeat.
Wipe off the excess with a dry cotton ball.
You're good to go. Do the same to your phone and any other gadget you might share with a friend or coworker.
It also does a good job of getting grime off your keyboard.
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I heard that's fairly immune to virus's.
The majority of illnesses you are going to catch in everyday life (e.g. influenza, the cold, etc.) are viral. Viruses (with very few exceptions) cannot survive outside of the human body (or some other organism they can infect) for any extended period of time. Unless if you plan on sneezing on your laptop and then having someone immediately lick it, you're probably not going to infect anyone via the computer. Airborne transmission is far more likely. If you really want to disinfect it, though, I'd recommend 70% alcohol (ethanol or isopropanol) on a paper towel. It kills just about everything and generally cleans well. You can also use a 50-50 mixture of alcohol and water. I usually use ethanol to clean my Thinkpad keyboard and screen.
And for the record, IAAB (...biologist).
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Assuming it's really influenza, and not some other virus, time will kill it. Influenza can't survive for extended periods of time on dry surfaces. Most influenza viruses only last a several hours on a hard dry surface. Under the right conditions they may last up to 72 hours, but they'll still die off over time.
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Of course, 3 days is a long time to not have a laptop, but you can safely handle it. You won't get re-infected now that your body is surging with antibodies targeting that specific strain. Just wash your hands afterward so you don't spread it to the non-immune.
If that's not good enough, you could try wiping the case with a cloth *very* lightly dampened with some kind of benzalkonium chloride based disinfectant (i.e.: well squeezed out lysol wipes or something similar). I don't know if that will damage the plastics or not (ie: the screen), it shouldn't but I've never tried it, so be careful here. And of course you have to be careful not to get any liquid into any of the vents.
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Just sell it on eBay. Problem solved.
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You are typically contagious before you feel sick. The feeling sick part usually happens AFTER your body has begun to mount an immune response, the sick feeling being all the cytokines and such, being released and their effect on the body.
Besides that - you've alreay "caught" it, and are no longer susceptible to that strain. Your other members of the household might still catch it though. And, yes, generally the bugs/viruses don't stay "live" that long outside the body. Most are dead within 72 hours or so.
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...it'll come back cleaner than it was when you bought it.
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The primary issue is that of the severity of the virus or bacteria, not keeping it clean. At best, you can disinfect the surfaces, not the interior. And although it sounds gross, you probably sneezed on, or near, the unit. Perhaps there was some moisture on your fingers when you touched the drive bay, or maybe you got your sickly hands on a CD before you inserted it, spraying fine droplets of moisture through out the unit.
As long as it is something normalish like the Flu, Cold, Chicken Pox, etc . . . just give it time. Most of that stuff dies in 24-36 hours without a host.
If its something horrifying, like Ebola? Stick your electronic item in the oven, put it on "Self-Clean", and get a new one. Discard the ash in a biohazard box ;-)
You'll never, ever, ever, ever succeed at "disinfecting" consumer electronics, because they are never sealed well enough. About the best you can do is those Virtually Indestructible Keyboard&Mice. Anything else just isn't cleanable, and you should do your best to maintain good hygiene (wipe the keyboard and unit every now and then with a good alcohol wipe (or spray alcohol on a paper towel)), and get over the "scariness" of illness.
Furthermore, if its your family your worried about, you've already given them ample opportunity to get infected, if you shared utensils, a bed, skin contact (Hugs and Kisses, anyone?) or even an indoor environment.
Disease isn't that scary unless you or someone you know immune system's compromised, and in that case you should turn to a health care professional to figure out how to make your environment safe. Otherwise, get over it ;-)
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I taught computers in a high school- after all of the joking, etc., here is the serious reply... the Clorox wipes are great and what the school nurse recommended. Wide down the keyboard and all other "hard surfaces"... for the screen, just a rag dampened with some distilled water. That should do it. You really should do this periodically if the computer is shared at all.
it's a macbook.. so the keyboard isnt coming off.. not even like a compaq laptop..
So anyway, damp rag with isopropyl alchohol will kill the bugs.. really consider it once a week, as keyboards are nasty..
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Spray atomized acetone on the thing, with the power off and battery out, no mains power, 15 minutes for caps to discharge (should be much faster). Avoid the screen (I'm not sure if the screen has a mylar coating, and the effect of acetone on that).
Acetone evaporates in a few seconds.
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I say get a freakin' life and don't worry about germs so much. If you've already had it, the germs on your laptop aren't going to re-infect you. (You're immune to that strain.) Also, germs only live so long on surfaces...
For cripes sake you might want to look into getting your OCD and germ phobia looked into though. :)
Use a little bit of Ethanol. I used to work in a lab where we had to handle Staphylococcus Aureus. We continously sprayed Ethanol on the counters and lab equipment. It kills the vast majority of bacteria, evaporates quickly, and leaves no residue. The more serious disinfecting required heating the equipment in an autoclave. But, we were dealing with large quantities of live, mutant strains. A little bit of Ethnol should be more than adequate.
Your notebook is safe - influenza and common cold viruses die quickly when exposed to open air.
It's not the case with bacteria, of course. Especially with sporulating bacteria. Endospores can survive almost anything.
No, this is relevant. The article deals with a serious problem: a mania for disinfection in the USA.
After years of expensive advertising by many companies, for many products, in many media, after many years, finally S. C. Johnson & Co. have convinced a substantial number of people that the terrorists, oops, sorry, I mean germs are a huge threat -- HUGE! -- and they are just about to overwhelm us; that we desperately need the help of sophisticated surveillance, oops, sorry, I mean, chemicals to stave off our all-but-certain doom. It's our last hope, our only hope.
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I'm a doctor, and we use laptops in our office, instead of paper charts. So I carry a laptop around all day long while I see patients.
Personally, I tend to wipe my laptop down every once in a while (maybe twice a week) with some disinfectant wipes, though I only do this when some sort of liquid gets on it.
As for your question, onces your laptop has had a few hours to air out, it's probably safe. Most viruses don't live for very long out in the open, although live isn't really the right term. Once they are dry, they are pretty much going to be inactivated. They are usually spread through little droplets that get on your hands, objects, etc. Those droplets then have to get into you (your mouth, eyes, nose etc) in order to infect you. If there are little virus-containing droplets on your laptop, they will pretty quickly dry out and become inactive.
Frequent handwashing is the best thing that you can do to avoid transmitting diseases. It reduces the chances that you will spread something from you to objects around you, and also reduce the chances that you will infect yourself after touching contaminated objects.
Just to address a couple other issues in the replies to this post:
A previous infetion usually protects you from a repeat infection. For instance, you are probably not going to get chicken pox twice. On the other hand, there are several strains of influenza, and those strains mutate each season. So you can get infected year after year, which is why there are annual flu shots. Or in the example of common colds, there are many different viruses which cause cold symptoms, and each of them may have several strains. So you can get lots of colds over the course of your life, even if you are immune to some of the viruses you have been exposed to in the past.
And one last thing - I'm just going to repeat how important it is to wash your hands a lot if you don't want to get sick. In the winter, I might see 25-30 patients a day, most of whom have colds of some sort. I probably wash my hands 50 or so times a day (before and efter each patient) and I don't get sick any more than anyone else.
Gads you all over engineer this. Pick up some disinfectant "wipes" at a grocery store. They work great on keyboards and mice (door handles, steering wheels, TV remotes, gameboys, etc, as well). Cleans up dirt at the same time. When you grow up and have young kids, you'll want to wipe down the keyboard/mice of the family box all the time anyway, specially during flu season.
I also like using isopropyl alcohol (the stuff they sell at the drugstore as rubbing alcohol) for cleaning keyboards and telephones, but not just for its disinfectant properties... it quickly gets rid of the grime that makes white and gray keys look disgusting.
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The only downside is that I've run across a couple brands of keyboard where it will take off the lettering, so you might want to test it on the "pause/break" key (or your own least favorite key) first to make sure it won't do that. Some people think blank keyboards are great for forcing you to touch-type, but others don't want to be challenged that way
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Spray or moisten a cloth, but avoid spraying anything directly on the screen/keyboard. You might also want to get a 'compressed air' can and spray the keyboard, since the macbook pro keyboard doesn't come off easily!
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just open a couple terminal windows and run a few yes > /dev/null processes while playing a game of guitar hero, you'll fry the little bastards quickly enough.
Wow. Talk about a posting delay. I submitted this on Friday January 25, @03:25PM. I got the flu the previous Tuesday, the day Heath Ledger passed away.
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1) if you coughed or sprayed on the laptop chance are you've spread mucus under the keys. A UV (or any other) light shone on top of the keys will do nothing to bugs under the caps.
2) See previous /. posts about cleaning keyboards in a dishwasher. It works. Your MAC manual has directions for removing your keyboard easily or check the many MAC repair websites with video on how to remove your KB.. Let dry 2 hours in washer, then overnight in dry air (under 15% relative humidity). If it's rainy use a hairdryer on LOW, stay 8" from the plastic (duh!), wait 15 min and repeat. Repeat again, and wait overnight to re-install. Your KB should now be dry and clean as new. One caveat -- never pull directly on any thin wires or you WILL be sorry, sorry, sorry. Use tweezers
3) Second the alcohol wipes. Use the 90% ethyl if you can find it, 70% ethyl second choice, then follow up with 90% isopropyl. IMHO 70% isopropyl is useless.
4) Still worried? Call around to local hospitals and veterinarians (houskeeping and surgical dept are the place to start) and find one that practices "Cold" or "Gas" sterilization. you doctor may also do this in his/her office or know someone who knows someone...
5) Do you use a cellphone too?
The problem is that I used my laptop during my periods of feverish deliriousness, contaminating my shiny 15" MacBook Pro with the icky influenza virus. I am asking my fellow Slashdotters if they have ever sought out a good way of disinfecting their lucky laptops after an illness
Don't worry about it. There isn't a virus yet that can make the leap from biological to technological infection. Your laptop is perfectly safe.
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Windex + Paper Towels on keyboard, screen, outside, and power cord. Then a bit of water on another towel to get rid of any residue from the windex. I don't do it because of germs, I do it because I don't like the feeling of an oily keyboard from sweaty, greasy hands.
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You had dirt? You were lucky. We had to eat ones and zeroes. Some days all we had were zeroes. We ate 'em and were glad.
You are now pretty much immune to that version of the flu (you got well so your immune system knows and can beat it).
So your laptop is only dangerous to others.
UV light is probably your best best. A day in direct sunlight would probably do it without hurting the laptop.
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I never clean my laptop. Helps me build up my resistance. Sure you may get sick in the beginning but you only get stronger as time passes.
Will get rid of all viruses, and makes it immune against new infections
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All this talk of cleansing gels and sprays is pointless.
No matter what you do it will still be a Mac.
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'Flu viruses don't live very long outside the host. From the BMA:
A study by Bean et al [see reference 21] has reported that the influenza virus can survive on a hard non-porous surface such as plastic or stainless steel for 24-48 hours and on materials such as clothes, paper and tissues for 8-12 hours. [a] On hands, it is reported that the influenza virus can only survive for approximately 10 minutes, although this is more than enough time to allow transfer to other surfaces, such as cutlery, door handles, ATMs, hand rails and keyboards, to facilitate the spread of infection.
...and take it back to the shop.
Tell them that you have far too light a grasp on reality to own such a technologically powerful piece of equipment.
Then you should volunteer to help all those starving and sick children in the world, I would try Africa first, it's always in the news.
After about eighteen minutes you will experience a gradual realisation of how, once, your life was so shallow and empty that you filled it with material things and then obssessed about non-existent threats to your health.
Then you will feel good, proud even, it may be almost an epiphany.
You will then be ready to own any of the many gadgets that makes modern life so filled with purpose.
Hang on a minute! Isn't this just a reworking of the classic Playboy© readers letter about how to keep the stylus on their expensive hi fi free from dust and dirt?
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There was an article on how to disinfect sponges recently and I think it would work on your laptop as well: Put it in the microwave on high for two minutes. Make sure you wet it first, or you'll get lots of smoke.
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Quit disinfecting everything and you're less likely to get sick in the first place!! It's just my theory, I'm sure we could all find studies that agree and disagree with this, but... I've always figured the best way to prevent being sick is to maintain a strong immune system. Instead of disinfecting every surface under the sun, trying to abolish bacteria (impossible!!) I just deal with them! I have no qualms against eating with (relatively) dirty hands. Food falls one floor? 5-second rule is too short! Let the bacteria in and you will develop your own immunities. Now I know, you were infected with a virus... and there's not much we can do to prevent them. But having a stronger immune system will still make getting over it easier, or you may never get sick in the first place. Seriously, this whole fad of disinfecting everything is part of the cause of nasty strains of bacteria like MRSA. I seriously believe if this continues, it could easily lead to a. the downfall of the human race, b. all humans having to live in bubbles with no physical contact with ANYTHING EVER, or c BOTH.
I'd just place it (open) in a well-ventilated area for a few hours and let it go at that.
Influenza doesn't *do* anything unless it's in a host. By itself, on its own, without a host, it's completely innocuous. You've already had this strain of it, so it won't infect you. What exactly are you worried about?
Cut that out, or I will ship you to Norilsk in a box.
Odd? C'mon - your parents have been doin' it penguin-style for about 10 years now.
from Advantages in linux on mainframe wiki overiview:
Linux...can take advantage of mainframe qualities of service, especially their reliability and security features, to support continuous business operations. For example, transparent use of redundant processor execution steps and integrity checking. Many industries, including financial services, need this unique capability for their Linux applications.
Also, mainframes support "hot" processor replacement. Linux and its applications continue to run, undisturbed, while adding or replacing processors, allowing business-friendly scaling according to demand.
So while I don't do the mainframe thing myself, it is a pleasant surprise to see Linux getting around.