First Max Payne Trailer Released

Kotaku has pointed out the first official Max Payne trailer for the movie based on Remedy Entertainment's third-person shooter. The movie stars Mark Wahlberg, and should be hitting the streets this coming October.

Comments

didn't play it

[stoolpigeon]

what's the deal with the birds?

Re:didn't play it

[AceCaseOR]

I suspect that it's probably drug-related hallucinations from Valkyr. One of my friends suggested that it was a visual metaphor for internal demons (possibly related to Valkyr as well - in the game Max gets dosed a couple times unintentionally).

Anyway, as plusses:

• Mark's got Max's tone of voice down pat.
• Mona Sax looks good, though it looks like they exchanged her red outfit from the first game for the black outfit from the second (which I have a minor quibble with, because it made for a nice visual metaphor, but I digress).
• The snowstorm looks alright, though I wonder if it will have the same sort of "character" as it had in the game.
• We only get a glimpse of Jack Lupino briefly, but he looks good.
• Gunfight in the Valkyr building.

Minuses on the other hand:

• No Two-Fisted Gunplay from Max.
• No sign of Max's slightly-over-the-top metaphors in his dialog.

It bears noting that the positives outnumber the negatives.

Re:didn't play it

[mikkelm]

He's got his voice down? Not by a long shot. It sounded completely forced, way too deep, and way too aggressive. I'm playing through the game at the moment, so the memory is pretty fresh, and he's nowhere near the voice of Max Payne.

Other than that, the dialogue in the trailer sounded bad. Too dramatic, and sympathetic as well. What made Max Payne great was the idea that you're a good guy, but the good guys think you're a bad guy. No sympathy, no drama, just cold, hard killing, witty commentary, and a can full of badassery. Doesn't look like they'll be sticking to that.

Re:didn't play it

[Anonymous Coward]

though it looks like they exchanged her red outfit from the first game for the black outfit from the second (which I have a minor quibble with, because it made for a nice visual metaphor, but I digress).

I didn't know "digress" was another way to say "talk bollocks".

Re:didn't play it

[Anonymous Coward]

You exhibit all the qualities of gamers that make me cringe and wonder how a game as wonderful as Max Payne got made in the first place. Max Payne is Noir. That's its genre. It's *supposed* to overly dramatic. Noir has layers upon layers, one of them is melodrama, and most gamers capacity for actual, good, nuanced, complicated story telling is abysmal at best. Games have long suffered from overly simplistic storylines. Not always, but long. Zork? Excellent, multi-dimensional story that required knowledge of a Joyce novel (or tips traded on BBS's) to beat. This trailer looks wonderful, and Wahlberg is making a decent run at making me respect his acting talent after this and The Departed.

Re:didn't play it

[Anonymous Coward]

If we have to tell you, your 15 years out of the loop. It will take more then a buck for you to buy a clue.

I think I'd take public school over whatever waste of space taught you to write.

Re:didn't play it

[Guido del Confuso]

No sympathy, no drama, just cold, hard killing, witty commentary, and a can full of badassery. Doesn't look like they'll be sticking to that.

I think you have Max Payne confused with Duke Nukem.

Verdict

[ilovegeorgebush]

Looks great to me: dark, stylish and remnants of Frank Miller (thinking Sin City). Can't see Mark Wahlberg as Max Payne though.

Re:Verdict

[DanWS6]

I'm having trouble picturing Mila Kunis as Mona Sax.

Re:Verdict

[conteXXt]

but he knows karate (boogie nights) besides, didn't you hear the tracks? It's that good.

Re:Verdict

[Endo13]

Actually, I can picture both Mark and Mila in those roles. I think it should be a good movie.

And having played (and immensely enjoyed) both Max Payne games, I can't wait.

Re:Verdict

[EvilIdler]

I can't see anything with Wahlberg without falling asleep :(

Re:Verdict

[LandDolphin]

HAve you watched I Heart Huckabee's? He was great in that.

High-res

[Rinisari]

Higher resolution video available at FirstShowing.net:

http://www.firstshowing.net/2008/07/10/must-watch-first-international-trailer-for-max-payne/

Re:High-res

[Deadfyre_Deadsoul]

This makes me lol. Sad that the entertainment industry has nothing left for originality sake but to make movies out of games (or vice versa).

Re:High-res

[Anonymous Coward]

Thanks man. Can't stand the piss-poor quality of embedded flash videos.

Re:High-res

[abstract daddy]

Yes, because most releases are adaptations of video games (which is somehow not the same thing as an adaptation of a book).

Wow

[AccUser]

Actually looks like they have captured the nature of Max Payne (or at least that's how it seems from this brief trailer). The Hitman film was good, but not great, and the two Lara Croft offerings were pretty poor, but this looks promising.

Re:Wow

[Anonymous Coward]

The main character's name is Max Payne, there is now way on earth you can make a good movie with that name. But if you liked hitman, your definition of "good" is broken.

Re:Wow

[RorinRune]

I agree it has the same atmosphere as Max Payne. I just hope they don't abuse bullet time in the film.

Re:Wow

[Anonymous Coward]

But if you liked hitman, your definition of "good" is broken.

Not as broken as your understanding of the English language.

Re:Wow

[essh10151]

I heard Wahlberg say in an interview that it (Max Payne) "blows the Matrix away" so, yeah, I think they are going to abuse bullet time.

Re:Wow

[somersault]

It's been a while since I saw it, and the second was poor, but I remember thinking the first Tomb Raider was quite a good movie. Hitman was okay. Doom was bollocks. This looks a bit cheesy but could be good.

I have to admit that while I enjoyed the first game, I never bothered to buy the second. Since the first game had dynamic difficulty, the level of ability the enemies had by the end was crazy - maybe I should have purposely played badly occasionally so that the enemies didn't react to me immediately as I popped out from a corner even in bullet time. The actual control system and bullet time stuff was done amazingly well though, I loved being able to roll and shoot at the same time, and how it slowed down time slightly while you did it (or maybe I'm getting confused with The Opera, heh).

Re:Wow

[LandDolphin]

For me Tob raider failed as an action movie, and it also failed as a T&A flick too! It was a sad day; who would have thought that Tomb Raider with Angelina Jolie would be a bad movie? How coudl you screw that up?

Re:Wow

[somersault]

I just remember enjoying the bit where the special ops dude invaded her mansion, as it reminded me of Operation Flashpoint, which I'd been playing a lot around that time :p The second one was just crap though.

I actually expected the first movie to suck though, so that perhaps made it easier for me to enjoy the bits that were good. I have never really liked Tomb Raider as a game, and was always quite cynical about their choice of a big titted heroine as the protagonist. It wouldn't have done nearly so well if it weren't for that.

Re:Wow

[LandDolphin]

I was jsut surprised that it failed at both an action movie and a T&A movie. TO be honest, I expected the action movie portion to be rather lame. However, I thought they would at least get the T&A right. As you said, "a big titted heroine"; How do you screw that up? She has shown more T&A in a drama then she did in Tomb Raider.

Re:Wow

[somersault]

Heh, and the ass in the Tomb Raider shower scene was actually a body double :p

Wendy

[eddy]

Yeah, I would have liked Wendy Hoopes. I think she could do it.

Better Choices

[anarkavre]

I always thought this guy from this one soap opera reminded me of Max Payne. I always said if they make a movie he should play the part of Max Payne.

http://www.cbs.com/daytime/guiding_light/bio/robert_bogue/bio.php

Maybe him or possibly Bruce Campbell.

Re:Better Choices

[anarkavre]

Oh, and he also plays a cop on the show.

Re:Better Choices

[Anonymous Coward]

if you want someone that really reminds you of Max Payne, perhaps the developer from Remedy who was used for modelling would be even better (Sami Jarvi [http://www.moviefans.de/a-z/m/max-payne/sam-lake.jpg]) :)

Re:Better Choices

[anarkavre]

But the question is, can he act? :P

Re:Better Choices

[morari]

I can assure you that he would do a better job than Mark Wahlberg. ;)

Re:Better Choices

[CronoCloud]

The parent got labeled funny, rather than insightful? What is the world coming to.

very good looking so far

[DragonTHC]

almost everything I saw reminded me of the first game.

the checkered floor, the candles, the crib and bedroom fading to unsaturated darkness, the bullet time!

This looks like someone might actually have gotten the source material right.

Re:very good looking so far

[SirSlud]

You mean the screen shots look good. How does that tell you about whether it will be fun to play? (ie, watch)

I really don't get these game-to-movie things. Make a good movie. Why would I care whether its based on a video game or not? Its either good or its not.

Look at the batman movies/games. Sure, the license is cool but the movies and games suck when they arn't fun to watch or play respectively, not based on how good they look.

Re:very good looking so far

[DragonTHC]

You're not a gamer.

And, no, I meant the trailer for the movie looked good.

Re:very good looking so far

[SirSlud]

I guess playing videogames a minimum of 3 hours a day and being a game developer makes me not a gamer. :D

Its almost impossible to make a bad trailer. Most gamers just have woefully low standards. I don't really get the desire to see a game turned into a movie. I like good games, I like good movies. I don't need one industry to reference the other - that's just window dressing.

Re:very good looking so far

[DragonTHC]

yep, you're not a gamer.
being a game developer doesn't make you a gamer. I've never met any developer that has time to PLAY games.

And I have ridiculously high standards.

I'm really tired of movie producers and uwe boll crapping on source material for original games. the fact that you don't get the desire to see a game turned into a movie further enforces my point that you are not a gamer. I've been a gamer since the age of 5 when I got my Atari 2600 and my commodore 64 soon after. I love games. I buy more games per year than DVDs or Albums combined. I love when someone has the idea of turning a game into a movie. Generally they fail miserably, but I still watch.

It's very easy to make a bad trailer. Since you have no interest in movies made from games, why bother posting anything at all?

Re:very good looking so far

[SirSlud]

You sound like you're under the stockholm sydrome. I played Quake1 for 7 years, every night unless I wasn't sleeping at my place. I played q3 ra for 6 years. I own a 360 and a wii, and every single day I play games on them. I think Myst is one of the best games ever made. Blizzard can do no wrong, in general. I like RTSes, FPSes, action games, and Ico was more than worth the 20 hours spent completing. It was a work of art. RTCW, awesome. I actively play Street Fighter and Virtua Fighter. Soul Calibur 4, I'm dying for. How could I not be a gamer? I've spent more money and more time playing games than any other interest in my life? And if you've never met a developer that has the time to play games, well, work at a gaming company. The ones that *make* time are the gamers. You're right that some really have no interest and leave it up to the designers to make it fun, but I'm a gamer and I get into arguments with designers because from time to time, I work on projects where I play more games than they do.

Don't tell me I'm not a gamer.

I'm really tired of movie producers and uwe boll crapping on source material for original games.

And thanks for making my point. You'll just keep going back to the trough of shitty game-sourced movies, hoping it'll be the exception to the rule. Source material? Games don't have source material. Games are fun to play. Writers and voice actors in games will never be payed enough to provide super compelling source material for the very reason that they just arn't that key to a game's success. Gameplay is. Artists are. Programmers are. Designers are. Man, compare it to comic books. More source material than you can shake a stick at, but at the end of the day, a good comic book hero movie is more an anomaly than a given. So why be so passionate about faithful translations of in game experiences? It can happen, but you're gunna have to absorb a lot of crap until the perfect storm that creates a good videogame movie.

Re:very good looking so far

[SirSlud]

I forgot, 'ridiculously high standards' is one of the dumbest things you can say to somebody. We're talking about standards - if there is an absolute scale in the universe, well why bother? Standards vary from person to person and the reason I'm entering into this discussion is to adjust yours. Not make them better or worse - that transcends what standards mean.

Re:very good looking so far

[DragonTHC]

I guess you're that other type of gamer. I think myst was a huge waste of time.

I'm very passionate about faithful translations of in game experiences because I obviously loved the games.

I agree that writers and voice actors aren't payed enough. I think bad writing and horrible voice acting completely detract from a gaming experience. They make a game less fun.

You could have perfect gameplay but couple that with a stupid story which makes no sense and horrible voice acting and the game just won't fly in my book.

I think one of the best games ever made was Wing Commander 4 on DVD.

Re:very good looking so far

[SirSlud]

Hey, I liked Myst not because of the game play, but because of the atmosphere, the voice acting, and the story. You didn't like it, but thats more a matter of taste. I liked it for the same reasons you like some of your games: the experience. Between gameplay/story, neither can be king because different games need or use different amounts of them.

My main point is that games, as being able to provide a solid foundation for a movie, rank below both books and comic books in my world. (And I love comics.)

I just think that the strongest games, books, and movies are usually not created because some game, book, and movie got really popular and a bunch of money guys and marketers got together to go all horizontal over the media. Wing Commander wasn't a movie before it was a game. Neither was Myst. Neither was a whole host of other awesome games. I just feel like most videogame movies miss the mark, and it seems patently obvious to me why: the game was great, and hundreds of people are going to work on a movie based on it who never played it. It's just a very risky proposition, and while sometimes it all comes together, its really freakin rare.

To me, games are for playing, not for stories and acting. When games have great stories and great acting, I love it - Eternal Darkness is right up there for me .. but again .. I think its kind of like asking a heavy metal band to write a song about how awesome their lyrics are. Rap is rap, thats what makes it rap. Heavy metal is heavy metal. Games are games, movies are movies, books are books, and when you've experienced any of them and loved it, asking somebody else to re-do it in another media or genre is just a recipe for fandom. I honestly think most of these movies make money because comic book fans, game fans, whatever feel indebted to go see them just so they can have an opinion on how 'faithful' they are to the source material. Transformers the movie wasn't made because the story was compelling. It was because everybody knows that there are hundreds of thousands of people out there who won't pass it up, no matter how bad they hear it is - they have to see it, because its a franchise that they feel connected too. Its that kind of built in audience that doesn't require an incentive to create something good ... more like something shiny and well marketed.

And that, is why by in large, when I see a semi-cool looking trailer for a decent game like Max Payne, I go "meh". It could be good. I don't preclude the possibility. But its funny you loved Wing Commander 4, only because - how good was the movie?

Re:very good looking so far

[SirSlud]

Actually, and this isn't an insult, but it occurs to me that you're a guy looking for a good story and good acting in a medium which is very much secondary to another medium which is fully founded on it. Why play games if what you're looking for is good acting/good story? At the end of the day, most of the money on a game HAS to be spent on programming, modelers and texture artists because if there's no game play, what you're sitting in front of at your computer is a movie? The different between you and I is that good acting and writing is a bonus to me - to you, its required. I wonder why you just don't read books or be a film buff. I love movies and books, and whatever you seem to be looking for from games, you can get them there.

So those birds

[n3tcat]

Anyone care to explain the angels/vultures?

Re:So those birds

[hairyfeet]

probably trying to give a visual to "the flesh of fallen angels" which was mentioned several times during the hallucinations when Max had to deal with anyone on V. It looks promising from the trailer. I just hope it gets Remedy to make us a Max Payne 3 already! I loved 1 & 2,in fact I think I still have 2 installed. I may have to dust it off and enjoy some Max goodness.And as always this is my 02c,YMMV

Re:So those birds

[Anonymous Coward]

Most likely thought up to be a part of the weird dream sequences Max had in the games - something more hollywood that total black with blood trails stuff

Re:So those birds

[Jasonjk74]

probably trying to give a visual to "the flesh of fallen angels" which was mentioned several times during the hallucinations when Max had to deal with anyone on V. It looks promising from the trailer. I just hope it gets Remedy to make us a Max Payne 3 already! I loved 1 & 2,in fact I think I still have 2 installed. I may have to dust it off and enjoy some Max goodness.And as always this is my 02c,YMMV

I read that 3 is supposedly coming out in either late this year or early '09.

Re:No Bullet-time!?!

[Rurik]

... Are you sure you watched the right trailer? I see many instances of bullet-time in it.

Hopefully

[Seakip18]

they manage to capture the spirit behind the voice-overs of max and the sound track, I will be thoroughly impressed. The cello solo from the intro/menu of Max Payne II still haunts me. That dark, gaping noiresque(?) feeling just permeates off the strings.

Re:Hopefully

[Seakip18]

Forgot an if in that first sentence. Anyways, per Kotaku's posters, his a youtube of the music. No, not rick rolled.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5uC_my4Vy4

Thank god they didn't cast...

[Anonymous Coward]

Thank god they didn't cast Keaneau Reeves as the main character.

"Like woah, the sky was totally raining down pitchforks of ice"

"The pills totally eased the pain, dude!"

"I know bullet-fu!"

Mark Wahlberg? Ewww!

[morari]

That said, the film could be decent enough. I'd be willing to bet that none of the allusions to Norse mythology make much of an appearance however.

Re:Mark Wahlberg? Ewww!

[somersault]

What, you mean you bet it has nothing like the giant dark, winged, valkyrie-type-beast at the end of the trailer?

Re:Mark Wahlberg? Ewww!

[morari]

I'm assuming that was just a hallucination from Valkyr and any such metaphors that do show up (visual or other) will not tie together in any meaningful way. I may be surprised however.

Re:Mark Wahlberg? Ewww!

[Sabriel]

Noticed an "Aesir" corporate logo at 0:55 into the trailer.

Good Vibrations

[ezwip]

Isn't that the same Marky Mark from the Funky Bunch and the underwear comercials?

Re:Good Vibrations

[Anonymous Coward]

Um, yeah. Where the fuck have you been the last 15 years?

Re:Good Vibrations

[Anonymous Coward]

Held hostage in South America, you insensitive clod!

Re:Good Vibrations

[kericr]

You have any idea how much Marky Mark loves being called Marky Mark?

Movies from anything...

[TheSambassador]

I doubt it's just me, but does anybody else, no matter how good a movie is, really dislike the ones made from books/games?

I tend to nitpick every single little thing that deviates from the game/book. I feel like if they're going to make a movie, they should either make a seamless transition of the book's storyline (this is why I hated the Harry Potter movies...) or just come up with an original idea.

I did see Fight Club before I read the book, and thoroughly enjoyed both (though the book was a little ruined by already knowing the ending). I'm sure that these kind of transitions are possible to do good, but they've got a lot of people to please from the get-go.

Re:Movies from anything...

[p0tat03]

Formats are different though. A book can take you days to read, while a movie must tell its tale in 2 hours and a little bit. Likewise, a game can have you meander an abandoned hotel for an entire hour, looking for bad guys, a movie cannot. Adaptations are required, and not necessarily a bad thing.

Re:Movies from anything...

[faloi]

It really depends for me, actually.

Generally speaking, I do a decent job at giving an adaptation an even chance. I really enjoyed Starship Troopers, the book, and actually enjoyed the movie...even though the two are radically different. I enjoyed the Lord of the Rings movies, even though there were some dramatic differences between the books.

The only thing I can think of that I didn't enjoy as much, and probably didn't give a fair shake, was the Dresden Files TV show. I really enjoy the books, and didn't actively hate the TV show...but I didn't go out of my way to watch it after the first couple of episodes.

SUOMI, FINLAND, PERKELE!

[Anonymous Coward]

SUOMI! SUOMI! SUOMI!

Looking surprisingly good

[HertzaHaeon]

They've seemed to have capture the dark edge of Max Payne. Now let's see how they handle the strong, humorous archetypes from the games without making them silly stereotypes. The Italian mobsters were caricatures in the games, but lovable caricatures that were as fun to shoot at as to listen to. Also, there's a hint of bullet time in the trailer, but I wonder how much of it is needed for the film to feel like a true Max Payne. If used right it could be just right, but it's another thing that easily becomes stereotypical.

Huh?

[denzacar]

How can you make a Max Payne movie WITHOUT abusing the bullet time?

Its like saying about the Superman movie "I hope they don't abuse flying effects... cause.. you know... its unrealistic that a man can fly."

Re:Huh?

[RorinRune]

There is a difference between abusing and using. Abusing it would total kill the movie, like have a FPS camera angle in DOOM, granted that movie blew hard.

The Hitman film good?

[denzacar]

You have either not seen the movie, or have not played the game.
Which one is it?

But yes... Mark Wahlberg "Max Payne" movie does seem to be targeted at just that kind of audience you represent.
People that think that Timothy Olyphant "Hitman" movie was a good movie based on the "Hitman" games.

Looks nice!

[Ruperz]

Wow, can't wait for that movie to come out. Loved Mary Wahlberg in Shooter and in Four Brothers. Hoping that his performance in this movie is that good. Usually i am not so into this dark movies but it seems nice with good special effects. We'll see!

Not so fast!

[Krater76]

The preview looks good but if it truly was it would've been out during the summer or during the holidays. I'm sorry for being the bearer of bad news but anything from the second-half of August until early November is going to be mediocre at best. It's just not a time of the year that good movies come out.

One example (of many): Doom came out in October.

Re:Not so fast!

[crossmr]

The shawshank redemption came out in September. Pulp Fiction came out in October. Do you want to play this game all day long or admit this was a stupid generalization?

Re:Not so fast!

[Krater76]

Last time I checked 'Pulp Fiction' and 'Shawshank Redemption' weren't based on video games and I will admit there are always exceptions. You also chose two movies that are considered classics but didn't receive popular praise until later in their runs. 'Shawshank Redemption' barely made a profit in the theaters and while 'Pulp Fiction' made hefty money during its run it was initially very underrated. I know because I am a huge Tarantino fan and was at opening night - with only 20 other people in an entire 350 seat theater. Somewhat anecdotal I know, but it was one of those word-of-mouth, Oscar-contender boosted movies.

You might consider it a stupid generalization however, and since it's the start of Oscar season, you are somewhat right. The ratio is better than I thought it was but for every 'Michael Clayton' or 'The Departed' there's 4 or 5 movies like 'Man of the Year', 'The Marine', 'Marie Antoinette', 'Saw 3', 'Two For The Money', 'The Fog', 'The Legend Of Zorro', "The Heartbreak Kid', or 'The Comebacks'. The funny thing is that 'Marie Antoinette' was supposed to to be an Oscar contender... oops!

They put movies that most likely won't be very popular at this time for a few reasons. First, action/popcorn movies have a chance to make some scratch where they'd otherwise get lost or ignored in the summer. Second, Oscar contenders aren't typically popular movies and need to be released as close to the new year as possible to up their chances for nominations.

I would love for this movie to be good, I thought Max Payne was a great game. The trailer looks good but when they started showing some sort of angels or demons, and one pulling someone from a window I had to worry. That could just be in the context of the drugs (a main theme in the game) but it seemed really out of place.

Re:Not so fast!

[PopeGumby]

Last time I checked 'Pulp Fiction' and 'Shawshank Redemption' weren't based on video games

You didnt say movies based on video games, you said movies that come out at this time are mediocre.

Shawshank Redemption' barely made a profit in the theaters and while 'Pulp Fiction' made hefty money during its run it was initially very underrated. I know because I am a huge Tarantino fan and was at opening night - with only 20 other people in an entire 350 seat theater. Somewhat anecdotal I know, but it was one of those word-of-mouth, Oscar-contender boosted movies.

Once again, you didnt say that movies that come out at this time do badly at the box office, you said they were mediocre. For my money, box office success has little to nothing to do with quality. Otherwise, zero people would be going along to the see that stream of faeces that is the "*Insert word here* Movie" series, and yet, they must be being watched, because they keep getting money to make more.

That's not bullet time

[doug141]

Remember the game? In bullet time, you were slowed a little, and the enemies and bullets were slowed far more... you could dodge the bullets.

In this trailer, all we have is standard slow-mo, with all actors slowed the same amount, and firing blanks (not dodgable bullets like in Max Payne). The hero dodges not a single bullet in the trailer. The game is about entering bullet time and dodging bullets in just about every other firefight.

Is this going to keep crashing, like the game did?

[Anonymous Coward]

'Cause that made me so mad I've never bought another game...

Angels and PG13

[Anonymous Coward]

I have an odd sense that to keep a PG13 rating they've removed all hints of drug use... which would be unfortunate

Max Payne with no "Bullet Time"?

[christ, jesus H]

I dunno, fun game but I dont see a movie being much more then a second rate Tarrentino rip off. Also, am I the only one that thought Max Payne was modeled on Michael Madsen?

You're in an action movie, Max.

[Anonymous Coward]

The truth was a burning green crack through my brain. Actors floated by on strings shooting blanks, while CGI animation filled in the gaps.

I was in an action movie. Funny as hell, it was the most horrible thing I could think of.

I must admit, it brought me around...

[holiggan]

Well, when I saw the cast, specially the choice for Jim Bravura, I was really pissed, and lost my faith about this movie.

However, I must admit that this trailer really brought me around! I love the Max Payne games, and the trailer sure has the right vibe. Lets just hope that they don't screw it all up... By the way, Mona looked (in those 3 seconds) really awesome!!

Another video game movie . . .

[GotGame.com]

I'm actually kinda worried about how this will turn out . . . after all, movies inspired from video games don't really have a good track record . . . http://news.gotgame.com/hollywood-and-video-games-a-volatile-affair-2/