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Black Screens For Unauthorized Copies of Windows

arcticstoat writes "In a bid to deter people from using pirate versions of Windows XP, Microsoft is now updating its Windows Genuine Advantage (WGA) tool to introduce a few uncomfortable niggles for users of pirated versions of Windows. These include replacing the desktop wallpaper with a black screen every 60 minutes, although you can still replace it with your wallpaper of choice in the intervening period. As well as this, copies of Windows deemed to not be genuine will also have a translucent watermark above the system tray, which Microsoft calls a 'persistent desktop notification.'"

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  1. Black? Niggles? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Too close for comfort.

  2. Notifications by Brad1138 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Some one I know just doesn't download the the WGA notification (tells it never to download when it shows up in system updates) I... I mean he wants to know if that will still work?

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    1. Re:Notifications by nbert · · Score: 4, Insightful

      From the very beginning of WGA the aim was to discourage those who don't know how to avoid it to buy a proper copy. MS has conflicting interests, which both aim at profit: Market share* and a low number of illegal copies. If they make it too hard to install a pirate copy they might encourage people to switch to free alternatives. Plus they have to sell Vista now, which gives a perfect opportunity to make it a little more annoying to run a pirate copy of XP.
      I'd hate to give them just a cent for all the MS-related problems I had during the last years, but the good news is that many people switching to Vista can now sell their OEM licenses for XP (depending on what country they live in) and there is also a very huge chance to obtain a volume-license-key in my area. I'll legalize my copy in the near future, but not because I have to, but it has become so cheap. So the one time in a month I really want to play a decent computer game I don't have to worry about such things anymore.

      *Market share usually means turnover, but in this case I'd argue that % of people using it is a far better number. Major competitors offer their OS for free or sell it along their hardware for a price which is rather abritrary. Software is a very special industry. It's not like the car industry, where fixed and variable costs have a relation...

    2. Re:Notifications by Sj0 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Same here. I've got probably 3-4 proper, honest Windows XP licenses, but I keep on having to find new ones because the key either gets lost or decides it doesn't want to work anymore because Microsoft thinks I'm a thief.

      XP is the end of the line for me, because of these shenanegans. I've got an ubuntu CD ready for the day I just give up on Microsoft and their customer hating practices.

      Seriously, consider this. When I pirate, I've never been kept out of a product I steal. Never. Not once. However, I've lost thousands of dollars in software to stupid copy protection schemes as a legitimate customer. They are disincentivizing ownership. I'm acually better off stealing than paying for it.

      These idiots need a clue, and fast.

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    3. Re:Notifications by mcmonkey · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Seriously, consider this. When I pirate, I've never been kept out of a product I steal. Never. Not once. However, I've lost thousands of dollars in software to stupid copy protection schemes as a legitimate customer. They are disincentivizing ownership. I'm acually better off stealing than paying for it.

      I'm honestly do not mean to troll or flamebait, but it seems there's some Ayn Randian lesson there about the trouble with ruling honest people.

      Some regimes require criminals. If there aren't enough, they keep making laws until there are.

    4. Re:Notifications by mollymoo · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The reason I never used the XP theme (I stuck with the Win2k look while I still used Windows enough to care) is that the window chrome is huge. I don't give a stuff about looks, but I do give a stuff about my screen real-estate being eaten up by "cute" windows. It's not as bad as huge transparent chrome, but it's bad enough.

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    5. Re:Notifications by rkanodia · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The point is, the net effect of this crap is to treat paying customers WORSE than pirates.

    6. Re:Notifications by Starayo · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Not quite the same thing, but I've been using a pirated copy of XP ever since, after some hardware upgrades, it refused to let me reactivate (citing I had used all my reactivations... I had never reactivated before? Yes, it was a new, genuine copy.) and forced me to ring customer service.

      Of course, this sent me to a call centre in india where I was told the "servers were down" and they were unable to help me at that time. It took me literally 5 minutes, the same time I spent waiting for them to pick up, to download and burn a new copy that had SP2 and updates slipstreamed into it that required no activation, and not once since then have I had a single problem.

      Meanwhile, I hear stories from my friends who are getting false positives on their assorted XP and Vista installs, the majority being OEM copies on dells...

      When this sort of protection is causing more of a hassle for legitimate customers rather than pirates, there is a serious problem. I highly doubt this new update to WGA will affect my install in any way, shape or form.

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    7. Re:Notifications by jm4 · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I wholeheartedly agree that much of the copy protection methods out there are disincentivizing ownership, but as far as copy protection goes what Microsoft is doing here is pretty passive. They're not locking anybody out of anything. These are only a couple visual reminders that you're not using a legitimate copy. In fact, to me it seems like kind of an improvement over their typical shitty behavior towards customers. With all the hell people have raised over product activation, WGA, etc. I shudder to even think of what would happen if they used the type of DRM we see on video games. These guys routinely put in rootkits and stuff that will disable or damage hardware. These guys sell products that routinely lock out paying customers. Game developers were always terrible about this. Remember when we had to turn to page 93 in the manual and type in the fourth word of the twelfth sentence in order to get the game to start up? Why is it we basically give these assholes a free pass while jump all over Microsoft for having comparitively friendly copy protection? I think any copy protection sucks, but any meaningful argument against it is going to gain a lot more traction if we go after the worst offenders.

    8. Re:Notifications by Shaper+of+Myths · · Score: 5, Informative

      This is actually pretty easy to defeat. Just boot into safe mode (XP Home) or regular mode (XP Pro or Media Center). Find the files in C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32 called 'wgalogon.dll' and 'wgatray.exe'. Bring up the file properties, go to the security tab and remove the inherited permissions from the files (don't copy them, strip them completely). Answer yes when it asks if you're sure about this. Reboot and WGA will never bother you again. I've done this on dozens of machines and it just skips the update because its too stupid to fix permissions. The only exception to this is the Service Packs or repair installs. YMMV

      Of course nobody should have to do it in the first place but this is an example of corporate-think at it's best from our fiends in Redmond. If XP is so dead why should they be developing new WGA tricks for it anyways? Sounds to me like its them getting a bit nervous about how many people are jumping ship from Vista and pointing at 'hackers' as the problem. Again. =)

    9. Re:Notifications by Admiral+Ag · · Score: 4, Insightful

      If you've already joined those sailing under the Jolly Roger, why would you care?

      If the company goes out of business because it annoyed legitimate customers so much that they became pirates, then I'll count that as the market working (albeit in a perverse sense).

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  3. That's not too bad by faloi · · Score: 5, Insightful

    At least there's not some odd hidden process that the users have no visibility to running in the background using resources.

    Oh wait...

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  4. that's it? by nomadic · · Score: 5, Funny

    I'm impressed with Microsoft's forbearance.

    1. Re:that's it? by Spy+der+Mann · · Score: 5, Funny

      I'm impressed with Microsoft's forbearance.

      I find their lack of faith disturbing.

    2. Re:that's it? by langelgjm · · Score: 5, Funny

      What are you talking about? For the average user, changing the wallpaper is one of the most important functions a computer can perform!

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  5. Help Vista or Linux? by Brad1138 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    "Some sites have also suggested that this is a sneaky scheme to get more people to buy Windows Vista after disappointing sales of the new OS"

    It's going to be very funny if this does more for Linux than Vista.

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    1. Re:Help Vista or Linux? by compro01 · · Score: 5, Funny
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    2. Re:Help Vista or Linux? by luwain · · Score: 4, Interesting

      The problem with these schemes by Microsoft is that they more often than not inconvenience legitimate owners of valid licenses. I've had more than a few cases of valid installations of Windows "deactivate". It's doubtful that WGA is "bulletproof" and won't flag some legitimate licenses as invalid and screw-up a loyal Windows users' system. Also, for those who really pirate Windows (are there that many pirates out there??), hacking around WGA is child's play. I think that this will turn more people off than stop pirates. I've been using Ubuntu 8.0.4, and I'm very pleased. I have no problem exchanging documents with Windows users, and since I'm doing development in Java, there's no incompatibility there either, since even the Windows guys are using NetBEans and Eclipse...Is there really much pirating going around that Microsoft has to waste programming resources to combat it? From what I see, people want to BUY XP. Microsoft could probably stop XP from being stolen altogether, if they just continued making it easy for OEMs to offer it, and continued support.

  6. A new meaning to BSOD... by jt2377 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Black Screen of Death

  7. Yawn.... by scarboni888 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Can someone remind me why Microsoft wants to chase people off to other platforms again?

    1. Re:Yawn.... by Spy+der+Mann · · Score: 5, Funny

      Can someone remind me why Microsoft wants to chase people off to other platforms again?

      They're increasing their users' pain thresholds so that they'll find Vista's annoyances tolerable.

    2. Re:Yawn.... by click2005 · · Score: 5, Funny

      Because they're hoping one or two might actually end up buying Vista.

      The Vista Drake Equation

          N = R x fp x ne x fi x fe x L

      where

          N is the number of Vista sales
          R is the number of reported WGA unlicensed XP install hits.
          fp if the fraction of those that care about a black screen & bit of text
          ne is the number of users with PCs that can actually run Vista
          fi is the fraction of XP users who dont have the brains to use Ubuntu
          fe is the fraction of XP users who dont use a tool to kill the WGA app
          L is the fraction of XP users too lazy to get Windows Update to skip the WGA app

      S - Number of sales
      X - Number of illegal XP copies

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  8. Great. by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Most people I know who run 'stolen' software don't have the funds, are not otherwise law-breakers, and are not aware of alternatives. I've had great luck giving these people an OpenCD and explaining the law, and, in the case of small businesses, the BSA's tactics.

    I wonder how long it will be before somebody comes along with a registry edit file that will replace the permanent watermark text with a link to Ubuntu?

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  9. Wonderful; just another reason to pirate it by topham · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Just another reason to pirate it since I've triggered the damn tool multiple times on Legitimately licensed product.

    1. Re:Wonderful; just another reason to pirate it by ArsonSmith · · Score: 4, Funny

      Maybe it's just me, but I usually set my desktop to black anyway as one of the first steps after an install. This sounds to me like a feature rather than a deterrent.

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  10. Re:PFFFFFT by wiz31337 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Oh crap, get ready for another wave of "omg where is the start button" questions on the Ubuntu message boards.

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  11. *Innocent Whistling* by loteck · · Score: 5, Informative

    Cough, Cough.

    *Continues innocent whistling*

  12. They're kidding, right? by stinerman · · Score: 5, Funny

    The first thing I do after installing XP is turn the wallpaper to black.

    Apparently, pirating it saves me a step after install.

    WTG, MSFT!

  13. Hmm... by Chris+Acheson · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Windows is shareware now?

    1. Re:Hmm... by QuantumG · · Score: 4, Funny

      P L E A S E R E G I S T E R

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  14. I bet that.... by 8127972 · · Score: 4, Informative

    It will still flag perfectly legal copies of Windows as being pirated. Just like it has in the past.

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  15. Are they *trying* to push people away? by Ynot_82 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I know several people who've bought new machines in the last 6 months
    and been forced to have Vista pre-installed

    they didn't want it
    so pirated XP

    are they trying to push people away?
    cause it won't take much to annoy your userbase onto trying alternative OS's

    And I'll tell you what,
    once your average "mere mortal" Windows user, for whatever reason, tries Linux, and likes it
    his testimonial goes a long way with other mere mortals in the same boat

    1. Re:Are they *trying* to push people away? by cduffy · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Look, I paid for a Nissan Rogue. I like my Rogue. But if, for example, I felt like my penis was not quite large enough, I still don't have the right to roll into a Nissan dealership and roll off with a Nissan Xtera.

      I don't know Nissan's product line, so I don't know whether your comparison is apt or not, BUT --

      If someone forces me to buy ${EXPENSIVE_PRODUCT_A} as part of a bundle, and I don't want it -- instead I want ${CHEAP_PRODUCT_B}, I'm not going to feel the least bit in the wrong for forcefully trading the ${EXPENSIVE_PRODUCT_A} I was saddled with for a ${CHEAP_PRODUCT_B}.

      Legally wrong? Sure. Morally wrong? In the case of software -- where they don't need to manufacture or ship ship physical objects, or otherwise incur costs, on account of my action -- I'm going to take a "no".

    2. Re:Are they *trying* to push people away? by caitsith01 · · Score: 4, Informative

      I spent last night installing XP on a Toshiba Satellite A200 laptop for a friend who has tolerated Vista for about 6 months now.

      Not surprisingly, Toshiba (like Dell and many others) has signed a deal with the devil not to provide support for anything other than Vista (honestly, I can see why they might do a deal to pre-install Vista, but why stop loyal Toshiba customers from installing XP if they want to? Crazy).

      However, what is truly impressive is the hatred for Vista out there on the net, and the lengths that it inspires people to go to to get rid of it and, in the spirit of the net, help others get rid of it. Googling for info about getting XP up and running on this particular machine yielded pages and pages of helpful information about exactly what must be done to round up the necessary drivers (many from the OEM's who supplied the various components of the machine). Even better, a few heroes had actually compiled zip files containing every driver and distributed them via Rapidshare and the like.

      The other really startling thing was how many non-expert users were doing this. There were heaps of messageboard posts where inexperienced users basically begged for help to get XP working on their laptops. Due to the bod of Vista-hatred, the more tech savvy users were generally walking people through the process with a level of patience rarely seen on-line.

      I had the same experience installing XP on my Dell XPS 1530 (great computer, once you disinfect it) - there is basically a community dedicated to purging it of Vista.

      When you are inspiring legions of both expert users and ordinary non-techy people to go through the pain of installing an operating system using an ad hoc collection of unsupported drivers, something is badly, badly awry. I am critical not of MS so much as Toshiba, Dell and co - they are the ones who have made the key decision to support nothing but Vista. I wonder if they realise the lengths their users are going to to get around this choice?

      Incidentally, my friend's reaction was priceless when XP booted up quickly and quietly - "holy shit... you mean it's done? it's so... responsive! It's beautiful!" He then checked the memory usage and noted with awe that it was 120 megs after booting rather than 1 to 1.5 gigs for Vista.

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  16. colors by globaljustin · · Score: 4, Funny

    now microsoft has officially left it's users black and blue

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    1. Re:colors by racermd · · Score: 5, Interesting

      What's funny is my desktop is intentionally black. Has been for years - through Windows 2000, Windows XP, and now Vista. I just like it that way.

      Active desktop? Puh-leeze.
      Pictures of cats? Why?!
      Patterns? Too distracting.
      Other colors? Meh.

      I once tried BGInfo but even that was a black background with green text. It lasted a week before I took it out and went back to basic black.

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    2. Re:colors by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      1: Take screenshot of desktop with dozens of files and icons.
      2: Replace wallpaper with screenshot
      3: Empty Desktop
      4: ???
      5: Tell user to reboot to fix problem, preferably 10 times.

    3. Re:colors by KillerBob · · Score: 4, Funny

      I did that to somebody at work when she forgot to lock her desktop for a meeting.... she almost had IT reimage her desktop to fix it before noticing that the rest of us were sitting around snickering at her.

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    4. Re:colors by couchslug · · Score: 5, Funny

      "I once tried BGInfo but even that was a black background with green text."

      Black text would have been much less obtrusive.

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    5. Re:colors by Ucklak · · Score: 4, Funny

      How about the standard #008080

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    6. Re:colors by beav007 · · Score: 4, Funny

      I prefer the standard #8008135

    7. Re:colors by beav007 · · Score: 5, Funny

      You missed some bits.

      2.3) Set the task bar to "Autohide" and move it to the top of the screen.
      2.6) If it's a desktop compter, use the monitor controls to stretch/move the screen upwards enough to hide the remaining visible part of the taskbar.

      AND
      Replace #3 with:
      3) Right-click desktop, go to "Arrange Icons By" -> and untick "Show Desktop Icons".

    8. Re:colors by Ucklak · · Score: 4, Informative

      If you didn't get it, #008080 is the default background for Windows 95/98

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    9. Re:colors by camperdave · · Score: 4, Funny

      He once spent 3 months selecting the perfect color for the NeXT cube. 400+ different shades of *BLACK*

      I think he's color blind. It would explain why his initial machines tend to be black and white.

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    10. Re:colors by therufus · · Score: 4, Funny

      Or better yet, arrange your icons in the shape of a penis with balls like the website is down.

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    11. Re:colors by Koiu+Lpoi · · Score: 5, Funny

      "Black on black, that's how I want it... I don't care if anyone can read it. I'm the DRIZZLE!"

  17. Answer: Naggers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Question: People who annoy you?

  18. Pfff.... No imagination by Adeptus_Luminati · · Score: 5, Funny

    They need to get more creative. Here's a few ideas:

    1) Cause the NIC to drop random ammounts of packets at random times.

    2) Change the wallpaper from Black Screen to one with a letter ending with "... The police are on their way".

    3) Every 2 minutes all keys on your keyboard get randomly swapped around.

    4) Swaps the mouse buttons. Or moving the mouse left, moves it right, up, down, etc.

    5) All print jobs only result in large words in upper case saying "PIRATE ALERT!"

    6) Boot sequence and shutdown sequence get 5 minutes added on to them. Hey MS, don't forget to make sure you cause the hard drive light LED to flicker a lot while the users wait around so they think it's something going on. While you're at it, randomly flicker that HD LED every few minutes for 20 seconds at a time.

    7) Every 10th web page visited would be redirected to goatse (is that site still around?)

    You get the idea... now hurry up so that people get fed up faster and switch to Linux.

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  19. this happened to me, a legit user by pezpunk · · Score: 4, Interesting

    i paid for windows vista ultimate edition *waits for laughter to die down* but after a few months, i discovered that the machine i installed it on had some dodgy RAM and i had to replace it. i don't know if it was because i changed the RAM or because the bad RAM corrupted something, but after that Microsoft decided that my copy of Windows was pirated, and put a permanent message in the lower-right corner of my machine telling me as much, and refused to let me use certain features, such as the Aero graphics enhancements.

    personally, i suggest microsoft take a page from our founding fathers, and adopt a more "innocent until proven guilty" attitude (for example, offering a way to call them up and verify your CD Key) before implementing more draconian punishments upon the convicted!

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  20. Another push to get people using Vista by Shamenaught · · Score: 4, Insightful

    My theory: This isn't actually an effort to get more people buying windows directly, but to maintain market dominance. M$ are squeezing the illegal XP 'market', trying to get them to use illegal Vista instead.

    This is merely the first step, they'll eventually add checks for the most common cracks, followed by kill switches. This comes after service pack 1 removed the kill switch from Vista, making it less risky to pirate.

    Whilst this might see a few people jumping ship to Linux or something, I'm guessing M$ decided the risks of losing a few freeloaers outweighed the importance of removing the XP-shaped-thorn from their side.

    Get everyone doin' the downgrade, that way people will be used to it for when windows 7 comes out. M$ have learnt their lesson, and won't be creating any more good operating systems any time soon. It's less profitable!

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  21. Black? Seriously? by Just+Some+Guy · · Score: 4, Funny

    Yeah, that'll turn the h4xx04z away. Want to really make it worthwhile? Force a pink-on-pink color scheme, license the theme song to "My Little Pony", and play that in an uninterruptable background loop on all available sound devices. That'll do a lot more to keep a kid honest than would making his desktop look 1337.

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  22. Star Wars Reference by Ritz_Just_Ritz · · Score: 4, Funny

    The more you tighten your grip, the more systems will slip through your fingers.

    It was a tossup between that quote and "Governor Tarkin, I should have expected to find you holding Vader's leash. I recognized your foul stench when I was brought on board."

    More of the same. Just let go.

  23. Re:PFFFFFT by geekoid · · Score: 4, Insightful

    That's a good thing. Treat the noobs respectfully. Ultimately it's lack of respect from MS that's driving them away. If they get that same attitude from Ubuntu they'll just label you as asses and go back to MS.

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  24. It's like, how much more black could this be? by irae · · Score: 5, Funny

    And the answer is none. None more black.

    1. Re:It's like, how much more black could this be? by laejoh · · Score: 5, Funny

      I'd mod your comment all the way up to six if I could!

      Nigel Tufnel: The numbers all go to 6. Look, right across the board, 6, 6 and...

      Marty DiBergi: Oh, I see. And most slashdot comments go up to 5?

      Nigel Tufnel: Exactly.

      Marty DiBergi: Does that mean it's funnier? Is it any funnier?

      Nigel Tufnel: Well, it's one funnier, isn't it? It's not 5. You see, most blokes, you know, will be modding at 5. You're on 5 here, all the way up, all the way up, all the way up, you're on 5 on your original posting. Where can you go from there? Where?

      Marty DiBergi: I don't know.

      Nigel Tufnel: Nowhere. Exactly. What we do is, if we need that extra push over the cliff, you know what we do?

      Marty DiBergi: Put it up to 6.

      Nigel Tufnel: 6. Exactly. One funnier.

      Marty DiBergi: Why don't you just make 5 funnier and make 5 be the top number and make that a little funnier?

      Nigel Tufnel: [pause] These go to 6.

  25. Re:PFFFFFT by chubs730 · · Score: 5, Funny

    It's a tough job handling the ubuntu IRC channel. The other day some guy was asking how to maximize firefox. We told him to click the box in the upper right corner, and he didn't understand. So someone asked what version he was running, and he gave the output of firefox -v (or whatever command it is for version). It was baffling that he could use the command line but not maximize the window. I think (hope) he was joking. Or maybe it was Richard Stallman.

  26. Re:Can you bypass using WGA at all? by nabsltd · · Score: 4, Informative

    You can always run your own WSUS server.

    This lets you control exactly what does and does not get installed, and WGA isn't even available through WSUS (although Office Genuine Advantage is). If you have more than two computers running Windows 2000 or later, WSUS is a big help for saving bandwidth and assuring you get patched up-to-date quickly.

    Unfortunately, it requires Windows 2003 Server to run, but it is completely free (as in beer).

  27. Free your Linux box! by vimm · · Score: 5, Funny

    Were you a victim of Linux Genuine Advantage scheme to make millions? Linux Genuine Advantage Crack will restore free as in speech rights to what should have been in the first place. Down with the man!

  28. Re:PFFFFFT by KillerBob · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Modded troll or not, I have to agree. Smart users don't even have WGA installed on their legal copies of XP (yes, I like to think I'm one of those). I don't want a background process eating my machine's resources just so Microsoft can do the electronic equivalent of a strip-search every 10 minutes. If it doesn't actually benefit me it gets the hell off of my computer, fast.

    It doesn't actually run in the background. It does the authenticity check at startup, and it vets your computer when you try to install an update which requires authentication, and that's it. And there are actual, honest-to-goddess important updates that won't install without such authentication.

    *shrugs* but I guess I'm not what you'd consider a "smart" user, in that I choose to let it do its rigamorole on the 4 computers I have running Windows... my laptop, which dual boots with XP MCE, my HTPC which is running Vista Ultimate (both came from MSDN), and my parents' laptops, running XP Home and Vista Home Premium respectively.

    Incidentally... none of those systems have ever had issues, performance or otherwise, with WGA. I'm not saying that it doesn't screw over legitimate users. But I am saying that I've never seen an issue with it, and that the ability to install security and stability updates that you couldn't otherwise install outweighs the marginal increase in boot time, which is about the only thing you actually notice when you install/activate WGA.

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  29. Re:Can you bypass using WGA at all? by hairyfeet · · Score: 4, Informative

    Um....I hate to break the news to you,but if you would have read the news section at Windiz after nobody came forward when they requested help coding the site they quit updating it. So the newest patch there is from 2006. Doesn't really help when the latest bug strikes. There used to be a site with a batch file which downloaded Windows Updates,but I'm afraid I no longer have the link. But going to Windiz is pretty much a waste of time and I don't know why the site is still up.

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    ACs don't waste your time replying, your posts are never seen by me.
  30. Re:WGA never works for my genuine copies anyways. by 427_ci_505 · · Score: 5, Funny

    FCKGW...?

  31. It could be more annoying. by Antony-Kyre · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Think about it. Microsoft could have did stuff like this. Thankfully, they didn't.

    Change the homepage to Microsoft's website, perhaps a page about Windows XP and piracy.

    Have Clippit pop up in the corner of Windows XP, saying, "It looks like you're using a pirated copy of Windows. Would you like to purchase one now?"

    Slow one's Internet connection to 56kbps speed, except when doing Windows Updates.

    Disable any and all video capabilities.

    Limit the display to 800 x 600 at 8-bit colour.

    Disable accessing certain file types, such as video files, music files, etc. (Jokingly, because if you pirate Windows, you might be pirating other things as well.)

  32. Oblig by SpooForBrains · · Score: 4, Funny

    "Every time you operate one of these weird black controls, labelled in black on a black background, a little black light lights up black to let you know you've done it"

    --
    "The dew has clearly fallen with a particularly sickening thud this morning"