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FBI Issues Code Cracking Challenge

coondoggie writes to tell us that the FBI has issued another cracking challenge for a new cipher on their site. Tens of thousands responded to a similar challenge last year. In addition to the challenge, the FBI is also offering a few primers on the subject. There are a number of sites offering cipher challenges, but it's funny to see the FBI encouraging such behavior.

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  1. First Post by Hadlock · · Score: 5, Funny

    Love the article:
     
     

    coondoggie writes to tell us that the FBI has issued another cracking challenge for a new cipher on their site. Tens of thousands responded to a similar challenge last year. In addition to the challenge the FBI is also offering a few primers on the subject. There are a number of sites offering cipher challenges, just funny to see the FBI encouraging...NO CARRIER

    Hillarious.

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    1. Re:First Post by Ethanol-fueled · · Score: 3, Funny

      Maybe their service was just disconnected because they didn't pay their phone bill.

    2. Re:First Post by HTH+NE1 · · Score: 4, Funny

      Hillarious.

      RING
      RING
      CONNECT 1200
      |x{
      NO CARRIER

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    3. Re:First Post by morgan_greywolf · · Score: 2, Funny

      We're the phone company. We don't have to care.

    4. Re:First Post by anomnomnomymous · · Score: 3, Funny

      To be honest, I find it quite mountainarious.

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    5. Re:First Post by ILuvRamen · · Score: 2, Funny

      it's actually a clue. You have to decrypt the rest of the summary using the first letters of every prime numbered word.

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    6. Re:First Post by bistromath007 · · Score: 1

      Doing it by saying "Candlejack" last is chea

    7. Re:First Post by Hadlock · · Score: 1

      For those of you following along at home the original article ended at "encouraging". So my post hopefully now makes sense. Looks like they fixed it finally. Happy new year.

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  2. Oh, the fun and prizes! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    The winner receives an all expense 1 way trip to the tropical island of Cuba!

    1. Re:Oh, the fun and prizes! by morgan_greywolf · · Score: 5, Funny

      "You'll love our fun-filled resort on beautiful Guantanamo Bay!"

      Meh. The resort is okay, but I hear the service is torture!

    2. Re:Oh, the fun and prizes! by Memroid · · Score: 1
      I wish... instead all I got was:

      "Congratulations, you did it! Thanks for participating,
      and happy holidays."

    3. Re:Oh, the fun and prizes! by Ruvim · · Score: 1

      at least you don't have to tip a DJ

    4. Re:Oh, the fun and prizes! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      "You'll love our fun-filled resort on beautiful Guantanamo Bay!"

      Meh. The resort is okay, but I hear the service is torture!

      I heard the place is full of violent, religious fanatics who hate America.

      I'd rather vacation somewhere like Europe where they're not violent, religious fanatics.

    5. Re:Oh, the fun and prizes! by Koiu+Lpoi · · Score: 2, Funny
    6. Re:Oh, the fun and prizes! by noidentity · · Score: 1

      "You'll love our fun-filled resort on beautiful Guantanamo Bay!"

      Meh. The resort is okay, but I hear the service is torture!

      Yes, but there's plenty of time to enjoy waterboarding and laying in the sun.

    7. Re:Oh, the fun and prizes! by Shadowruni · · Score: 1

      The service is ok... as long as I don't have to eat Big Bob's meat sandwich!

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    8. Re:Oh, the fun and prizes! by MrOion · · Score: 1

      "You'll love our fun-filled resort on beautiful Guantanamo Bay!"

      ...were you can go waterboarding for free all day long...

    9. Re:Oh, the fun and prizes! by Rival · · Score: 1
  3. This will really piss of the Chinese by Alain+Williams · · Score: 5, Funny

    or whichever foreign government owns the code that the FBI has just recruited the bright kids on the Internet to crack :-)

    1. Re:This will really piss of the Chinese by Sockatume · · Score: 2, Interesting

      It'll really piss off the NSA (or other TLA) if it turns out that the computer science discoveries made by the competitors transfer to encryption systems they use.

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    2. Re:This will really piss of the Chinese by drspliff · · Score: 3, Insightful

      RTFA... it's an extremely simple substitution cipher, if the FBI had to outsource this I'd be extremely worried about their technical competancy.

      In the age of public/private key encryption, while there's a NSA hashing algorithm competition running with many well respected scientists competing, the FBI's "lab" comes out with this crap?

    3. Re:This will really piss of the Chinese by Anml4ixoye · · Score: 1

      Basically what I was thinking as well. I did it while I was on a conference call, and was disappointed to see that this was all there was to it. I figured at the very least that it was just a first-level and the real puzzle would be on the site. Oh well.

    4. Re:This will really piss of the Chinese by coolsnowmen · · Score: 1

      don't lie, you just ignored the robots.txt file and crawled the whole site didn't you?

  4. Harry you? by BadAnalogyGuy · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Houdini was always searching for better, more clever ways to perform escape acts and illusions. After he would debut a new trick, others would immediately try to emulate the trick. The trick was on them, though, because Houdini would frequently expose their methods (because it was originally his) and prove himself to be the true master magician.

    No difference here. Just the FBI gauging the abilities of the community.

    1. Re:Harry you? by Architect_sasyr · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Or maybe looking for recruits? I'd imagine that if you're an American then working for some agency which will go un-named you would be earning a stack of money, and if you're a foreign national then they're going to set you up with a visa and a passport and some covert operation to fly your geeky self into the United States. Thus maintaining the "best of the best" cryptographic team, or at least trying to.

      Hate to see what happens to the guy who finds the flaw and then says "Sorry, I want to work for [the Chinese]"...

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    2. Re:Harry you? by dov_0 · · Score: 1

      Just wondering how much personal information they want on the entrance form...

      Oh, and don't worry about the clicks on the phone line. They already data-mined your phone records, so they wouldn't really bother to listen in, would they?

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    3. Re:Harry you? by failedlogic · · Score: 2, Interesting

      It wouldn't be a far stretch of the imagination that the FBI would highly consider those that have applied to Intelligence organizations but didn't make it. Doesn't mean they are less talented at their jobs. There's all kinds of reasons to choose the FBI over some of the others - there's always +/- trade-offs.

    4. Re:Harry you? by ZouPrime · · Score: 1

      The "challenge" issued is so lame, I doubt this will help them recruit anyone.

      I mean, come on. YYY.AHB.MSK/NSCDC.OFZ? Can you make it more easy? Jeez.

    5. Re:Harry you? by puto · · Score: 2

      I have an old great uncle in South Carolina, mid 80s. For years he has had me assemble or point him in the direction when he buys himself new computers or gadgets.

      And he is amazingly adept with them.

      Turns out my quiet old uncle was a brilliant cryptologist in the OSS.

      He told me they retired him quietly in his 30's with a big fat pensions, and he has been doing nothing and growing peaches ever since. And when he says it his eyes twinkle.

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    6. Re:Harry you? by eltaco · · Score: 1

      of course, that is one motivation. have you ever seen the movie mercury rising ( http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0120749/ )? basically a govt agency calls for people to crack their code and an autistic kid manages it. the agency (nsa?) declares the code uncrackable and hunts down the kid.

      in the end, we have the same thing here. the fib wants to know how the wild geeks manage with the code. according to the responses they can statistically surmise the probability of their code being cracked - thus categorising their encodings and letting them know how secure it will eventually be.
      first and foremost it's about finding out how easily it can be cracked. then it's often about hiring talent. I've never actually seen a LEA go down this path, though.

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    7. Re:Harry you? by nelsonal · · Score: 1

      they put a three letter address and three letter tld in the coded message with yyy at the beginning, I don't think they're looking for super sleuths to crack this code. I was surprised they didn't just rot (x) the original.

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    8. Re:Harry you? by JWSmythe · · Score: 2, Interesting

          Years ago, I caught my girlfriend's daughter passing ciphered messages between her and friends. I wasn't trying to punish her, but I wanted to educate her. I explained how they're easily crackable. She wasn't even using letters. They were all symbols of all different kinds. Some were similar to runes. Others simple shapes and variations. It was good for a kid. :)

          I told her what she was doing right, and what she was doing wrong. She said I couldn't crack her message. I asked if there was anything I shouldn't see in it, and she said it was ok. I'm nosy, but I'm not so impolite to look at her private notes. I then walked her through cracking her own message.

          I would hope that the FBI could give us something a little harder than a basic cipher. zzz. boring. At least the daughter's cipher was entertaining. :)

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    9. Re:Harry you? by emtilt · · Score: 1

      I doubt they are looking for recruits with this. This cipher is ridiculously easy to break - try it yourself. Anyone can do it.

    10. Re:Harry you? by pcolaman · · Score: 1

      The answer is 42. Where do I claim my prize?

    11. Re:Harry you? by Zero__Kelvin · · Score: 1
      ROTFLMAO. failedlogic used "FBI" and "Intelligence organization" in the same sentence!
      1. The "I" in FBI stands for Investigation
      2. One can hardly equate the "challenge" - ridiculous, simple, and breakable by any reasonably educated 12 year old - to be a sign of intelligence
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    12. Re:Harry you? by Zero__Kelvin · · Score: 1

      Congratulations to you on once again living up to your pseudonym. You really should consider TrulyOutlandishlyHorribleAnalogyGuy.

      The FBI is not only not the "masters" of cryptology, they couldn't decipher there way out of a paper bag covered with the cryptic symbols "H2O" ...

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    13. Re:Harry you? by hughk · · Score: 1

      Govt wages really aren't that good. Sure, you will get access to some cool toys, but the bureaucracy is stifling.

      If you want to do cryptography and get paid, go work for credit card companies, banks or SWIFT.

      As for foreigners, forget them. The FBI and NSA won't touch them as they can't be cleared. It is very difficult apparently to clear people who are citizens but have spent time abroad, which is one of the problems at the moment.

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    14. Re:Harry you? by JWSmythe · · Score: 1

          Ahhh, the cold truth. There are some sick people out there, that can take a posting about educating a child, and helping them expand their minds, and make in into a sick sexual reference.

          Thank you for reinforcing my faith (or lack of it) in humanity. If/when bad things happen, it will be people like you that will be the downfall of humanity, not the salvation of it. Do the world a favor, make your best efforts now to achieve a Darwin Award.

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  5. Link to the 2008 challenge by root777 · · Score: 5, Informative

    The links in the article point to FBI challenges in 2007 and the kids challenge but do not point to the 2008 challenge.

    Here is the FBI Cryptanalysis challenge 2008 http://www.fbi.gov/page2/dec08/code_122908.html

    Other helpful links for reference
    2007 challenge: http://www.fbi.gov/page2/nov07/code112107.html
    Kids challenge: http://www.fbi.gov/kids/k5th/jobs9.htm

    1. Re:Link to the 2008 challenge by Chris+Daniel · · Score: 4, Informative

      Also, here's the code (transcribed a damn Flash file; wtf you guys):

      VFWTDLCSWV. YD NSLMIJFWEJFD GSW SL NIJNQBLM FOBV EJFDVF DLNIGTFBSL. KBVBF YYY.AHB.MSK/NSCDC.OFZ FS EDF WV QLSY SA GSWI VWNNDVV.

      Lameness filter ... it was presented in caps on the original, so it is presented as such here!

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    2. Re:Link to the 2008 challenge by enFi · · Score: 5, Informative

      Presuming that the text is all the information we need - maybe the got creative and did steganography, or a message hidden in the flash source.

      I agree with the characters; if newlines are relevant:

      VFWTDLCSWV. YD
      NSLMIJFWEJFD GSW SL
      NIJNQBLM FOBV EJFDVF
      DLNIGTFBSL. KBVBF
      YYY.AHB.MSK/NSCDC.OFZ
      FS EDF WV QLSY SA
      GSWI VWNNDVV.

    3. Re:Link to the 2008 challenge by gfody · · Score: 1

      It seems they're trying to better their odds this year by only allowing the code to be seen by visitors using IE

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    4. Re:Link to the 2008 challenge by Nathrael · · Score: 1

      What if it has to do anything with the video they're linking to if you click on the flash image? It looks completely unrelated, but who knows...

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    5. Re:Link to the 2008 challenge by Nathrael · · Score: 1

      Ah, nevermind. Ignore please.

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    6. Re:Link to the 2008 challenge by laddiebuck · · Score: 3, Informative

      It remains fairly trivial after your substitutions. vivit -> visit, then the last line but one is "to let us know of". After those chars, the whole thing falls into place. The final translation table is tr '[abcdefghijklmnoqstvwyz]' '[fideltybravngchkopsuwm]'. You're supposed to visit this trite URL, which congratulates you. Maybe they really did mix it up with the kids' challenge.

    7. Re:Link to the 2008 challenge by ranok · · Score: 1

      Wow, it took me less than a minute, and I usually stink at newspaper challenges.

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    8. Re:Link to the 2008 challenge by Raynor · · Score: 1

      Firefox loaded it for me.

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    9. Re:Link to the 2008 challenge by vikstar · · Score: 1

      When I went to www.fbi.com/coded.htm my computer froze for a couple of seconds as my harddrive was working more than usual... hmmmm...

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    10. Re:Link to the 2008 challenge by wxwz · · Score: 2, Interesting

      tr '[abcdefghijklmnoqstvwyz]' '[fideltybravngchkopsuwm]'

      Interestingly there appears to be a hidden message within the key itself, the start obviously encodes: fidelIty bravERy InTEgRITY, but not sure what the rest works out to (chkopsuwm).

      I noticed there was a similar pattern in the 2007 challenge, with the key (fedralbuoinvstgchrkmpvwxyz) starting off with letters encoding 'federal buro of investigation'.

    11. Re:Link to the 2008 challenge by mls · · Score: 1

      View source, copy and paste. Isn't that part of the challenge ;)

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    12. Re:Link to the 2008 challenge by laddiebuck · · Score: 1

      Well, chkopsuwm is in alphabetical order, as is chrkmpvwxyz. I suggest they simply had finished encoding what they wanted to do and just took letters as they came after that.

    13. Re:Link to the 2008 challenge by penguinbrat · · Score: 1

      chkopsuwm ?= "checking opposite of universal weapons of mass destruction"

      "Fidelity Bravery Intergrity checking opposite of universal weapons of mass destruction"???

      I have no clue...

    14. Re:Link to the 2008 challenge by Tubal-Cain · · Score: 1

      Maybe it's cryptography's equivalent of a Polyglot?

    15. Re:Link to the 2008 challenge by fracai · · Score: 1

      So they took moved the letters of FIDELITY, BRAVERY, and INTEGRITY to the front of the alphabet for the substitution and then left the rest as is. There's an example on their analysis page that does this with SECRETLY as the seed.

      I figured it out by the obvious replacements and then continued on as more became apparent. I wonder if anyone went about trying different sub keys? Given the amount of text and the obviousness of it, attacking the cipher text seemed the most sensible route.

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    16. Re:Link to the 2008 challenge by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 3, Informative

      Also, here's the code (transcribed a damn Flash file; wtf you guys):

      VFWTDLCSWV. YD NSLMIJFWEJFD GSW SL
      NIJNQBLM FOBV EJFDVF DLNIGTFBSL. KBVBF
      YYY.AHB.MSK/NSCDC.OFZ FS EDF WV QLSY SA
      GSWI VWNNDVV.

      Lameness filter ... it was presented in caps on the original, so it is presented as such here!

      Easy - "Be sure to drink your Ovaltine!"

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    17. Re:Link to the 2008 challenge by asCii88 · · Score: 1

      Got it!

      Spoiler:
      The secret package is in the brown bag near the river

    18. Re:Link to the 2008 challenge by MonkeyOnATypewriter · · Score: 1

      Direct link:

      http://www.fbi.gov/headlines/code.swf

      This should work ;)

    19. Re:Link to the 2008 challenge by sraviik · · Score: 1

      view page source.

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    20. Re:Link to the 2008 challenge by Atrox666 · · Score: 1

      We should make a website full of all sorts of fun FBI/TLA activities for the kiddies.

      Make a skype portal where you can illegally listen in to people's conversations.

      A little mini game where you see how many pieces of the constitution you can wipe your ass with before your term runs out.

      Another little mini game where you could try to shred as much paper as possible before the time runs out.

    21. Re:Link to the 2008 challenge by ImABanker · · Score: 1

      Having gotten 3 chars after a brief look, I think this should be breakable without a computer, no?

    22. Re:Link to the 2008 challenge by mrphoton · · Score: 1

      retarded: "Stupendous we congratulate you on cracking this latest encryption visit www.fbi.gov/code.htm to let us know of your success"

    23. Re:Link to the 2008 challenge by Gulthek · · Score: 1

      And four letters are missing in the encryption. Perhaps something is hidden there as well.

      A f
      B i
      C d
      D e
      E l
      F t
      G y
      H b
      I r
      J a
      K v
      L n
      M g
      N c
      O h
      P None
      Q k
      R None
      S o
      T p
      U None
      V s
      W u
      X None
      Y w
      Z m

      Padding line length for comment filter.

    24. Re:Link to the 2008 challenge by Hillgiant · · Score: 1

      the chair is against the wall

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    25. Re:Link to the 2008 challenge by Hillgiant · · Score: 1

      Sad that "integrity" received the fewest letters. Saying something about our priorities?

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    26. Re:Link to the 2008 challenge by Zero__Kelvin · · Score: 1

      I just went to http://www.fbi.gov/page2/dec08/code_122908.html and noscript is blocking their javascripting attempts. Clearly the FBI is just trying to determine what percentage of people think they are smart enough to crack codes, but are stupid enough to allow javascript to run from fbi.gov :-)

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    27. Re:Link to the 2008 challenge by firmamentalfalcon · · Score: 1

      Interesting observation.

      The ER in bravERy and I,TE,RITY in integrity have already been used in fidelty, brav, etc., so they have to skip those, so that they would have a one to one relationship between ABC, and FID. The rest is just the letters that haven't been used before.

      Easy way to create a one to one relationship for the substitution cipher. Just remember the key.

    28. Re:Link to the 2008 challenge by D+Ninja · · Score: 1

      Not sure how you got modded informative, but since I'll try to get modded informative off people who did not understand your funny, for people who didn't understand the reference, then you missed the Christmas marathon on TBS of this movie.

      From the article: "Ralphie receiving his Secret Society decoder pin, and learning a lesson about being ripped off (his first secret message with the pin turned out to be an Ovaltine radio commercial)."

  6. Fidelity, Bravery (n/t) by Cryptosporidium · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Hm. Hidden message.

  7. FBI's "Add yourself to suspect database contest by Jason+Quinn · · Score: 5, Funny

    Dear citizens: Please inform us if you have the talents necessary to be suspects in criminal cyber-cracking cases. That is all. Love, The FBI

    1. Re:FBI's "Add yourself to suspect database contest by Almahtar · · Score: 1

      The cypher was too simple to be that indicative of talent. They're obviously just testing how many people have very basic knowledge of this stuff.

  8. This is like the Last Starfighter by synthesizerpatel · · Score: 2, Funny

    Except for video games and aliens, it'll be a bunch of crypto guys battling it out with Matlab.

  9. Everyone is a Winner by retech · · Score: 2, Funny

    It's interesting to note that all of the participants in the challenge last year got an all expenses paid vacation to an undisclosed location. I guess it was a really cool vacation since none of them returned home.

  10. A similar challenge for linux web servers... by lamapper · · Score: 4, Interesting
    Reminds me of a security company that issued a hacking / cracking challenge somewhere between 3 and 8 years back, no way could I find this article...perhaps one of your ./ will provide a link...

    The company offered over $10,000.00 for not only hacking and cracking their server, but showing the company how they did it.

    If memory serves (and it sometimes does not) they paid out the first and second years of the challenge, but in year three no one successfully broke into their web server environment.

    I believed they kept eliminating modules that had holes and were not needing and closing holes in modules that were needed.

    Based on what I read, they were able to 100% successfully secure their web servers from attacks only because they were using Linux as the OS.

    I remembered comparing their results with others attempts with other operating systems and really wanting to learn Linux.

    Now that I am using Unix and Linux and have a better understanding of what they were doing I can see the simple genius in such challenges.

    Whether just for security or for scouting talent, whatever their reasons, its money well spent when they offer cash prizes to the few that are successful!

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    1. Re:A similar challenge for linux web servers... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Now that you've learned Linux, please learn about paragraphs. Thank you.

    2. Re:A similar challenge for linux web servers... by krray · · Score: 1

      It was Bulldog (Firewall or Linux) if I remember correctly.
      I can't find reference to their history / challenges.
      The only link I can barely find is (which may not be the one I'm thinking of): http://tanaya.net/BullDog/index.shtml

    3. Re:A similar challenge for linux web servers... by blhack · · Score: 1

      Their is a school in Phoenix called UAT (University of Advancing Technology). Really cool place, also really expensive.

      They have a similar policy. Students are allowed (encouraged) to crack into the machines. They are allowed to change the website (not de-deface it...think more like "blhack was here, happy tuesday!" hidden in the bottom or something) as long as they don't break anything and they show the admins how they did it.

      High Schools really need to implement this. Intelligence needs to be encouraged, not punished.

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    4. Re:A similar challenge for linux web servers... by lamapper · · Score: 1

      Their is a school in Phoenix called UAT (University of Advancing Technology). Really cool place, also really expensive.

      They have a similar policy. Students are allowed (encouraged) to crack into the machines. They are allowed to change the website (not de-deface it...think more like "blhack was here, happy tuesday!" hidden in the bottom or something) as long as they don't break anything and they show the admins how they did it.

      High Schools really need to implement this. Intelligence needs to be encouraged, not punished.

      Very smart on their part to allow the students to learn by doing.

      Who would you rather hire to provide security to your company's network, someone who has studied it or someone who has actually made the attempts and tried to do it. More rhetorical than an actual question, thus no question mark.

      Me I would want the one who learned by doing, another reason to avoid paper tigers (i.e. certifications) unless a company is paying for it that is.

      I would have no hesitation hiring hackers...now crackers, we would have to sit down and have a conversation as loyalty is important if the life blood of your business is on the line.

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  11. Re:Fill in the blank by morgan_greywolf · · Score: 5, Funny

    Well, actually, I think it's supposed to be

  12. Ummm, was this supposed to be difficult? by bennomatic · · Score: 2

    It was not, shall we say, stupendously hard. A little common sense and some patience was all it took. I expected that I'd be looking at something a little tougher than I used as clues in the scavenger hunt at my 10th birthday party.

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    1. Re:Ummm, was this supposed to be difficult? by Psychotria · · Score: 1

      I got the first six words without writing anything down. Maybe they got it mixed up with the kids challenge.

    2. Re:Ummm, was this supposed to be difficult? by bennomatic · · Score: 1

      I just started with what was obviously a URL, made a few guesses about that and everything else fell into place in about 2 minutes.

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    3. Re:Ummm, was this supposed to be difficult? by bennomatic · · Score: 1

      Right. Like, duh.

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    4. Re:Ummm, was this supposed to be difficult? by Psychotria · · Score: 1

      I think I may apply for a job.

    5. Re:Ummm, was this supposed to be difficult? by bennomatic · · Score: 1

      Yeah, so might my dog.

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  13. FBI as code crackers? by girlintraining · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Oh, come on. This is from an organization that cut funding for terrorism just before 9/11 to add resources to software piracy. Do you really think if they had the brains do do cryptanalysis they'd...

    oh wait.

    I suppose they are looking for brains, huh.

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    1. Re:FBI as code crackers? by Amazing+Quantum+Man · · Score: 1

      Oh, come on. This is from an organization that cut funding for terrorism just before 9/11 to add resources to software piracy.

      But if the Evil Content Pirates(tm) steal music, the The Terrorists Have Won(tm).

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    2. Re:FBI as code crackers? by ricebowl · · Score: 1

      I suppose they are looking for brains, huh.

      You're saying the FBI are zombies..?

    3. Re:FBI as code crackers? by nelsonal · · Score: 1

      There was a story in puzzle palace about a code that some mobsters were using that had stumped the FBI, they took it over to the NSA as a friendly challenge (the NSA folk weren't supposed to work on domestic stuff). The NSA cryptanalysts cracked it over a single lunch break.

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  14. FBI uses open source software by root777 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Interesting that FBI uses plone as their CMS and not Wordpress and they have IE compatibility CSS code like the rest of the planet.
    Clue: Is there a reason why they have the crypto code displayed as a flash file and not a simple png or jpeg file?

  15. Too Easy by Arkaic · · Score: 1

    Bleh. Its just a simple substitution cipher. They didn't even change the grouping of the letters. Took me about 5 minutes to figure it out.

  16. I cracked it... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    "Be sure to drink your ovaltine"

    What the hell does that mean?

    1. Re:I cracked it... by mcrbids · · Score: 1

      Ovaltine is a chocolate milk drink that's vitamin fortified. It's marketed as being rich, chocolaty, and healthy to boot.

      Google "I'm feeling lucky" for "Ovaltine" results in this link at Wikipedia...

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    2. Re:I cracked it... by Bromskloss · · Score: 1

      "Be sure to drink your ovaltine"

      That must be the solution to the elliptic curve cipher.

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    3. Re:I cracked it... by sgtrock · · Score: 1
    4. Re:I cracked it... by sgtrock · · Score: 1
    5. Re:I cracked it... by d1g1t4l_nrg · · Score: 1

      lol, thats hilarious. Well its from one of the top christmas movies of all time. "a chirstmas story" In this movie the kid waits for his secret decoder ring from the company ovaltine. Then he hears the secret message at the end of his radio show. So he rushes up to the bathroom to decode the secret message and voila - the company had put in this message a commercial > Be sure to drink you ovaltine was the message he decrypted. Which in all irony seems to be the exact same thing going on here with the FBI but i dont think anyone is really dumb enought to put themselves on this list of possible cybercrackers that the FBI will keep tabs on. Do you really think this is legit - come on its the USA Gov.

  17. I win by binaryseraph · · Score: 2, Funny

    I have decrypted. Answer is: U R under Arrest.

    damn!

  18. And the winners get... by peacefinder · · Score: 1

    And the winners get all expenses incurred DMCA prosecutions!

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  19. Easy. by Dice · · Score: 1

    There were some dead give-away cribs.

    Spoiler below...

    sed -e s/H/b/g -e s/D/e/g -e s/A/f/g -e s/M/g/g -e s/B/i/g -e s/S/o/g -e s/K/v/g -e s/Y/w/g -e s/V/s/g -e s/F/t/g -e s/W/u/g -e s/T/p/g -e s/L/n/g -e s/C/d/g -e s/G/y/g -e s/N/c/g -e s/I/r/g -e s/J/a/g -e s/E/l/g -e s/Q/k/g -e s/O/h/g -e s/Z/m/g fbi.txt

    1. Re:Easy. by laddiebuck · · Score: 3, Insightful

      As one UNIX lover to another...

      tr '[abcdefghijklmnoqstvwyz]' '[fideltybravngchkopsuwm]'

      Happy man reading!

    2. Re:Easy. by Dice · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I actually started working on it with tr but then decided that I didn't want to bother with counting character placements to be sure I got it right. With sed I could just tack on extra '-e's as I deduced substitutions.

    3. Re:Easy. by Gulthek · · Score: 1

      Why not just pipe to tr and add on characters in lowercase as you find them?

      $ echo "BLAH" | tr '[BLH]' '[trp]'
      trAp
      $ echo "BLAH" | tr '[BLAH]' '[trip]'
      trip

    4. Re:Easy. by laddiebuck · · Score: 1

      Ah yes, I'd guG'd the whole thing in vim first.

  20. Re:link to challenge by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Wow. Cryptograms in the newspaper are harder than that.

    stupendous. we
    congratulate you on
    cracking this latest
    encryption. visit
    www.fbi.gov/coded.htm
    to let us know of
    your success.

  21. Extremely Lame by INeededALogin · · Score: 1

    Why embed the text in a flash object? code... I would of given this a shot if I could of relied on some normalized text, but no... that would make sense. Sense and gov't obviously don't belong in the same room. Yea... I am a little disappointed.

    1. Re:Extremely Lame by Rsimark · · Score: 1

      Did someone forget the tinfoil hat? Many forget about those annoying flash 'cookie' packages? You either whack em from the file system, or head over to MacroMedia/aka Adobe web site to access 'their' online Settings Manager tool at http://www.macromedia.com/support/documentation/en/flashplayer/help/settings_manager.html

      Whether or not the intention was initially there, because they can, the cynic in me says they will.

  22. what it should be by overcaffein8d · · Score: 2, Interesting

    what it should be:

    coondoggie writes to tell us that the FBI has issued another cracking challenge for a new cipher on their site. Tens of thousands responded to a similar challenge last year. In addition to the challenge the FBI is also offering a few primers on the subject. There are a number of sites offering cipher challenges, just funny to see the FBI encouraging 4J58I4JTK5NRO4844/4534852WDVJRIN67/368RB8XC0GJFNFXVXCVJVXV8R/GE8F/RETWQ8ER8WRHQ98CVUXHE8V09E8Q/WRWE8Q7T-E8THQEW/CHICKEN438R8SDFUEFNX7/4UDFJD7FH47FHEFT28FHEW6DFT

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  23. Cryptogram tool by Jade+E.+2 · · Score: 2, Informative

    There are automated ones out there that solve this in under a second, but if you want to figure it out yourself try this page:

    http://www.esg.montana.edu/meg/consbio/cryptogram/crypto.html

    Here's the puzzle text to copy:

    VFWTDLCSWV. YD NSLMIJFWEJFD GSW SL NIJNQBLM FOBV EJFDVF DLNIGTFBSL.
    KBVBF YYY.AHB.MSK/NSCDC.OFZ FS EDF WV QLSY SA GSWI VWNNDVV.

    1. Re:Cryptogram tool by dexmachina · · Score: 1

      yyy.ahb.msk/nscdc.ofz Holy crib Batman.

  24. When you crack it, it says . . . by MidnightPsycho · · Score: 1

    Congratulations, you did it! Thanks for participating, and happy holidays.

  25. Re:This is like the Last APLfighter by zurtle · · Score: 1

    Matlab?

    I use APL, you insensitive clod. Much, much more fun for code cracking/number crunching!

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    Couldn't stand the weather
  26. Re:Where's the challenge by dov_0 · · Score: 1

    The links may be a cryptic clue...

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  27. No congradulate by BountyX · · Score: 1

    What ever you do, DO NOT let the FBI congradulate you on your success.

    --
    Trying to install linux on my microwave, but keep getting a kernel panic...
  28. Be careful by Tablizer · · Score: 1

    When you win one of these contests, you may discover that your garbage is regularly replaced with phony garbage.

  29. Re:Mission Creep by iammani · · Score: 1

    I did not know NSA had the monopoly in organizing code cracking contests in the US. May be they should sue the FBI asking for compensation. A cease and desist letter should be even more fun.

  30. Was Fairly Easy... by mmalove · · Score: 1

    Took me longer to find a pencil than to crack the damn code. Now on to much more interesting things, like watching my three year old arrange the perfect train crash under a footstool.

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  31. Oh hi there by deblau · · Score: 1

    V'q yvxr gb gnxr guvf bccbeghavgl gb fnl "Uryyb!" gb nyy zl snaf va qbzrfgvp fheirvyynapr.

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  32. Result by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    It's a pretty simple substitution cipher, and the obvious web address in the code makes it even simpler. A simple bit of guess work and you get the result:
    "stupendous. we congratulate you on cracking this latest encryption. visit www.fbi.gov/coded.htm to let us know of your success"

    The lookup table for the substitution is:
    A : f; C : d; B : i; E : l; D : e; G : y; F : t; I : r; H : b; K : v; J : a; M : g; L : n; O : h; N : c; Q : k; S : o; T : p; W : u; V : s; Y : w; Z : m;

    1. Re:Result by Bromskloss · · Score: 1

      stupendous

      I will not tolerate them calling me names!

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  33. Use You to Teach Them How To Crack Your Computer by HermMunster · · Score: 1

    Heh, can't figure this one out on your own?

    You don't help them violate your privacy.

    --
    You can lead a man with reason but you can't make him think.
  34. craked it, no reward by OverNeith · · Score: 1

    I was expecting something more than just a "good job" message at the designated URL. I guess it's the journey, not the destination. for those of you out there, use the URL to get you started.

    1. Re:craked it, no reward by Xelios · · Score: 1

      No kidding. They could have at least thrown in some UFO pictures from Area 51 or something!

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  35. Hey FBI! by McNihil · · Score: 1

    Ok I have to 761f61867ec1167ffa20c8c4f95a45577795f82a
    write somet- 16659c5ee6f564ded2571380e28fcbe7bdbf711e
    hing so that 40035e0569e93778af620c96a75757ef63f2b5a2
    the filter e0c74f692f90e32c90a796f62e3670a86f2cedfe
    doesn't go 661e5d9fa0ccfc8191054c01afd2c4d06f60a598
    all hey wire 34c047364c9122ed047563772645a27bcaf6ea1c
    note that it 4d471ee6cf37303f85f7966aad7cf3c076f0cfbc
    should be b4a96b701bc68401e664a0dd134c26a53a812028
    normal text 255d33269ef1c64e84536a520cc6dfe4577f2d38
    well as nor- 110facb01de8c594fe494576fc3165cfba12aba5
    mal as you cd76d3960c016b4f3c43ea07bb1e16b14fac8965

    Can get it... the messages is the one to the right not the rambling to the left

  36. Re:link to challenge by Raynor · · Score: 2, Funny

    Was the the only person who started this by guessing YYY.AHB.MSK was www.fbi.gov? Seems like including a fully formatted URL is a bad idea...

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  37. Re:link to challenge by bytethese · · Score: 1

    Nope, that was an easy place to start. :) Having just taken a masters level algorithms class and doing Substitution, Vigenere and Affine ciphers I'm surprised they'd put up something so easy. :)

  38. I just violated the DMCA and it only took me 10min by Fry-kun · · Score: 1

    ...I've gotten rusty over the years, shaddup!

    I was hoping for more of a challenge, sheesh.
    Then again, it was a somewhat enjoyable coffee break distraction.

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    Did you know that "FTW" ("for the win") is a direct translation of "Sieg Heil"?
  39. Re:Crack this one by stfvon007 · · Score: 1

    THIS THE HULK

    Hi Hulk, I didn't know you were online!

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  40. ITSATRAP! by Arancaytar · · Score: 1

    it's funny to see the FBI encouraging such behavior

    Yes, rather strange...

    1. Re:ITSATRAP! by ZeroExistenZ · · Score: 2, Insightful

      it's funny to see the FBI encouraging such behavior

      It reminds me to the series of letters of George Mercies, about "Invisible Contracts".

      [For example, in the U.S.S.R., the KGB is known to have secretly "created" (sponsored is more like it) -- various protester groups for the sole purpose of throwing out some attractive philosophy designed to attract a certain type of individual, and then having "extracted" those individuals from society, and having thus identified them -- then shutting down the organization and arresting the members. This practice is a utilization of the principle known as the "Doctrine of False Opposition."]

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  41. good grief by denaje · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I hope they don't guard any sensitive data with encryption that easy

  42. Answer by ottffs · · Score: 2, Informative
  43. Re:Dog! by TaoPhoenix · · Score: 1

    So who's smarter? Dogbert or Brian

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  44. It's a trap... by Zooperman · · Score: 1

    Sting operation. Everyone who participates is subject to arrest. Enjoy, kiddies! :-D

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    Zooperman
  45. Children and cipher by troll8901 · · Score: 1

    So you're the first to open Elaine Roberts' mind!

    If I were her, I'd pester mommy everyday: "Mommy, mommy, marry this man!"

  46. If you figure out the solition by Punto · · Score: 1

    call your mom on the phone and tell it to her. You'll hear from the FBI 15 minutes later if you found the correct answer.

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  47. Brilliant cryptologist by troll8901 · · Score: 1

    He told me they retired him quietly in his 30's with a big fat pensions ...

    I think he'd probably written "The Art of Cryptology" during his employment days, in addition to the volumes of work he'd personally done.

    ... he has been doing nothing and growing peaches ever since. And when he says it his eyes twinkle.

    He may have secrets in the peaches. Analyze their DNA and see if there's any coded messages inside.

  48. Re:Crack this one by Killjoy_NL · · Score: 1

    HULK ONLINE TIL HULK SMASH MODEM!

    lameness filter workaround.lameness filter workaround.lameness filter workaround.

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  49. Why isn't it NSCDC.OFR rather than .OFZ? by toppromulan · · Score: 1

    Why isn't it NSCDC.OFR rather than .OFZ? It also seems odd that the Y=W instead of X=W. So I tried coded.htx and .htz but no page found, I guess they just silently log how cool you are. Of course my computations may be off. I think I started drinking a little too early this morning.

  50. The old saying... by kylegordon · · Score: 1

    "it's funny to see the FBI encouraging such behavior"

    Probably best categorized under "know your enemy"...

  51. The greeks would be proud. by scan-alias · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The FBi issues a code to be cracked with the simplicity of a 3 on a scale of 1 to 100 in terms of advanced technologies used in current cryptography. HAha - / they aren't looking for the 99% of society that can figure out the simple sub ciPher. Food for thought: With present technology in cryptography pushing the upper maxim of what we as a species are capable of understanding (in terms of entropy of data with a key) - lets just say someone went another direction. Intelligent "believable" misinformation is more powerful than anything else that could be devised in the world of intelligence. What would be the impact in the world of hidden secrets if an algorithm could encrypt a paragraph of data into an output resembling a ciphered textual paragraph instead of just random letters? Example 1: Paragraph A is encrypted .. instead of yielding random chaotic letters it yields a paragraph of of completely different content/context. How? Take 100 characters - First, these aren't words but 8 bit vectors of data. How do you you transpose 100 8 bit vectors into 100 other 8 bit vectors - the answer: very carefully and with a map along the way of course (the key). Yes it's 100% possible. Example 2: Take it a step further and instead of encrypting into another paragraph. Yield a paragraph that is ciphered with a determined amount of complexity. What would be the advantage of having a barely breakable code, yield a cipher that wasn't just mono-interpretive? Pretty powerful. The trojan horse of modern crypto-design? or just the fbi spending time putting up a code that I could break when i was 5?

  52. Hidden Wolf..... by IHC+Navistar · · Score: 1

    "coondoggie writes to tell us that the FBI has issued another cracking challenge for a new cipher on their site. Tens of thousands responded to a similar challenge last year. In addition to the challenge, the FBI is also offering a few primers on the subject. There are a number of sites offering cipher challenges, but it's funny to see the FBI encouraging such behavior."

    -.....so they can know who to declare a threat to national security and round up. What's next? Lawrence Livermore and Sandia having a contest on who can develop the next generation of explosives?

    --
    Knowing Google's lust for data collection, the Soviet Union is still alive and well inside the psyche of Sergey Brin....
  53. I give up, can't crack it by badzilla · · Score: 1

    "University of South Hampton", nope I can't figure out where that is!

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  54. obligatory sarcastic paranoia joke by EdelFactor19 · · Score: 1

    its simple really, and kills several birds with one stone. They are concerned with the 'hackers' who keep cracking this stuff, MAFIAA is annoyed that people keep cracking their often laughable security / encyption (who remembers the magic marker solution). Mafiaa pays them to host the challenge, and 'protects' some material with the very thing being 'cracked' in the challenge.

    Then clearly they round up all the winners, let the DMCA circumvention suits fly, and add them to watch lists all at the same time. we'll just ignore the whole entrapment thing and laugh ok?

    Brilliant.

    1. host 'contest'
    2. let net hackers do your work.. I mean crack the code for you
    3. ???
    4. profit

    again just a joke

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  55. It's not supposed to be difficult lol by nehumanuscrede · · Score: 1

    The idea is to generate interest in the subject :D

    While it took all of a few minutes to 'solve'
    manually, it merely shows folks that their interests
    in puzzle solving can actually be of some use in
    the field of crypto.

    A more interesting use would be to put currently
    unbroken ciphers in use by ( insert organization
    here ) and see if the online community can break
    them. Why settle of X number of employees when
    you have have Y^Z folks doing it for free (fun) ?

  56. got it! a bit tricky.. by db10 · · Score: 1

    "operation Meaty Sandwitch is all go!"

  57. Motivation=mens rea; demonstration=actus reus by KudyardRipling · · Score: 2, Interesting

    This contest is nothing more than a fishing expedition to see those who are smart enough to break codes and brazen and stupid enough to have the testicular resources to demonstrate the same in public.

    File under the heading "Let every flower bloom".

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  58. Way off topic. Or, is it? by Rockin'Robert · · Score: 1

    President Jeb Bush (Get used to it.) becasue they cannot trust anyone else.

    http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=KF3Ry-xcXAg

    RR

  59. Sting? by kpainter · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Maybe this is like those stings where the police dupe some idiot criminals to show up somewhere under the guise of getting some free stuff, then slap the cuffs on 'em. Are they logging the IP of people who go to that website which in turn is compared against a list of people they want to talk to? Why else would they do something like this?