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Sedate Your Kids While They Play
If your child won't sit still at the dentist, the doctor, or the kitchen table, you need the PediSedate Helmet. The device consisting of a colorful headset that connects to a game component or a portable CD player. After a snorkel attachment goes into the child's mouth, the helmet will monitor respiratory function and distribute nitrous oxide or anesthetic gas. The company website states, "The child comfortably becomes sedated while playing with a Nintendo Game Boy system or listening to music. This dramatically improves the hospital or dental experience for the child, parents and healthcare providers."
She was a Nazi, though, so probably not the best example.
Do they make an adult model? Where's my checkbook....
is a great idea.
With vodka and nitrous dispensing.
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... seems to suggest otherwise that the device doesn't really work properly. They need a picture of a kid with eyes like X_X and maybe his tongue hanging out for good measure.
Then I'd buy it. For... medical purposes. Yes.
Is CE marked, UL listed, and Pedobear approved!
...why do they need the video game? Once it kicks in you could amputate at the knee and recieve only chuckles in response.
Huh, I always wondered what those weird helmets and head gear on everybody, especially children, in those old 1950's cheesy sci-fi movies, were for. I guess I know now...
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Forcing your kid to inhale a dangerous substance like Nitrous Oxide is right up there with leaving your 2 year old cerebral palsied daughter at home while you go drinking. It is shirking your parental responsibilities. In this age of selfishness and self-centeredness, it's really no surprise that such a device would be proposed.
Whatever happened to a quick backhand to the kid's face? Or walloping his butt with a belt?
Teaching your kid to control themselves is a fundamental parental responsibility. They aren't always going to be able to rely on drugs to get them through life.
How come this kind of posts even make it to the main page? That too into Game section, in which way this falls into game category? aah forget it.
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FTA: The result is a system that provides a calming influence over the children, monitors the child continuously, allows the procedure to be performed by less skilled personnel...
As far as I can tell, this thing is for real, and it sounds like a worse idea than the Jump to Conclusions Mat.
It's a joke.
I think.
I hope.
God, don't let this be true.
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All the listed news coverage on their sidebar seems to indicate this was covered in 2002. Any reviews on how it worked?
What happened to good ol parenting and talking the kid through the procedure with soothing words like, "just one more and we'll be done"
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what the hell ever happened to smacking your kid upside his head and making him behave? ughhhh i'm really feeling my age when i can now say things like "in my day we didn't have video game sedation helmets...."
I mean, it sounds like an Onion story but none of the links are going to the Onion.
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I actually had to check.
This has to be a joke.
Any use of this device would be misuse in my opinion.
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It is a medical device, it isn't meant for the general public. PediSedate is a medical device consisting of a colorful, toy-like headset that connects to a game component such as the Nintendo Game Boy system or a portable CD player. Once the child places it on his or her head and swings the snorkel down from its resting place atop the head, PediSedate transparently monitors respiratory function and distributes nitrous oxide, an anesthetic gas. The child comfortably becomes sedated while playing with a Nintendo Game Boy system or listening to music. This dramatically improves the hospital or dental experience for the child, parents and healthcare providers. The result is a system that provides a calming influence over the children, monitors the child continuously, allows the procedure to be performed by less skilled personnel, increases the speed with which procedures can be performed and makes the procedure a less stressful experience for all involved. Each headset can be used multiple times per day by replacing the disposable components contained in the disposable kit. PediSedate consists of a state of the art anesthesia administration and monitoring system. A pulse-oximeter within the headset, monitors oxygenation and a capnometer monitors second-to-second respiratory rate ensuring the safety of the patient. This currently is not the standard of care in outpatient settings. The PediSedate anesthesia delivery system delivers Nitrous Oxide and other volatile agents via a patented anesthesia delivery/scavenging mask situated in the snorkel. Inhalation anesthesia is both painless and titrateable. The benefits of volatile anesthetics are that onset and recovery times are rapid, which reduces cost to the healthcare system.
How is this not in idle?
Oh, wait, I spot a clue: Posted by samzenpus
Could we use this to turn kids into superkids by sending them caffeine or something? We could turn the schools into kid army barracks!
Start them young, I bet you'll have kids in the playground huddled around a couple of these helmets fighting each other for the next hit.
Pedistate Helmet, the new gateway drug.
I was going to write something snarky, but I'm honestly stumped.
I can't decide whether this is an innocuous gimmick or something subtly terrifying.
OK. I have to try something; if you switched out the nitrous tank for something foul smelling and nausea inducing, you could use this rig for adversion training obsessive vidiot kids.
Where do I sign up for one of these things for around the house?
Didn't I read about this somewhere before?
Isn't it bad enough that our kids are being fed growth hormone laced meats and pesticide drenched veggies while being bombed out of their skulls on ADD medications cause some teacher decided to tell the parents cause little Timmy was all squirmy from having to sit on uncomfortable hard plastic chair in a crowded classroom? No someone says, lets get them addicted to whiffing nitrous now. Please someone sue these idiots into never wanting to touch another kid ever.
Finally, a way to add some challenge to older games!
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If you RTFA it's not a joke, but it's not meant for home use, it's for doctors to use in the doctor's office to put kids under with less anxiety.
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PROTIP: it's not addictive. (Nor is it even metabolised by the body.)
Not much point to it on its own anyway, it only really becomes worthwhile in combination with acid / shrooms.
One of this would _vastly_ improve the workday!
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RTFA!!!!!!!
It is for medical use only. Evryone that is bitching about Parents not being parents, and ADD, smacking kids, etc. Please RTFA
Won't dental work be difficult with a snorkle attachment in the child's mouth?
How exactly does that work?
You know, I thought the kiddie ball and chain was the best (and funniest) child accessory ever, and would not be topped for quite a while.
I stand corrected.
Combine the lil' gas helmet with the lil' ball and chain, and hilarity ensues.
Forget the Nitrous Oxide, the real tragedy for the parents is if their kids ever get addicted to the denti$t.
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Who needs an Adult version? After all, college students loved the Teletubbies. Any excuse for intoxication.
The website for the company looks old. All their press room links are from 2002. Did this product ever make it into production or was the idea abandoned?
And yes, the headline is horribly misleading. This is a medical device for children undergoing surgery, not a home device for controlling your kids.
So when can I get one for my 2 year old?? Please hurry...
how hard is it to put a damn mask on the kid and knock him out?!
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I would still rather go with this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G8fbHpttc5A
It's easier to do than a big helmet.
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Nitrous oxide is non-addictive. In many people, it gives an enhanced sense of euphoria, though a majority of that feeling comes from near-asphyxiation. It's a bit more potent than Dust-Off, but otherwise gives similar results.
The potential for abuse of this thing is off the charts. I mean, its even named: PedoHelmet. Problem comes with a complimentary teddy bear.
Why not just give them a balloon and a box of whippits it does the same thing.
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It can still become a psychological addition, and those are often as or more powerful than a physical addition, in difficulty to break.
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And if the child has an undiagnosed case of malignant hyperthermia? "Lesser-trained" medical professionals should not be messing around with volatile anaesthetics.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malignant_hyperthermia
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1. I really can't see having to wear that being much more comforting than just having a parent in to reassure the kid. Make it so they don't need to go in alone. Whether this is just for medical facilities to use or not, it doesn't strike me as a wonderful idea.
2. In the picture, is that a boy or a girl, or some mix? Because gyuh.
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In that case the dental work could become a psychological addiction too. And an addiction to dental work is probably more dangerous than an addiction to nitrous.
Hell... why all the fancy games and shit. Just give me the N2O please! And LOTS of it! Thank god for whipits...
At long last, I no longer have to tell kids that the roofies are magical Tic-Tacs. Thank you, science!
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Yeah, but I imagine it'd be cheaper and less difficult to get Nitrous, since no dentist is going to let a young kid book their own appointment (probably no one under 18, even).
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When I was growing up in the 1970's, I was declared "mentally retarded" and tossed into the special ed classes. Never mind that I could blow out their tests in ways that normal students couldn't touch, wanted to learn more than what the teachers weren't teaching, and had way fewer behavioral problems than the other kids. Troubled kids back then were treated like idiots rather than medicated to no return.
..cause after all, NO parent should ever have to teach their kids that life can be unpleasant sometimes, and that they need to DISCIPLINE themselves in those cases and get through them with some dignity and grace!
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Who in the fuck is samzenpus and why does he post on Slashdot?
"Device Lets Your Kids Play While They Are Sedated"
You're wrong. I cant be bothered to provide any support for my assertion but then neither could you.
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I remember once I had surgery as a kid over 15 years ago. They gave me a small cup with something to drink (some kind of anesthetic I guess) and then sat me down at an NES with Zelda. I was out in a few minutes.
This sounds like a step BACK from that.
I have an 18th month old daughter that's had multiple surgeries and procedures. She starts freaking out the minute we set foot in a hospital. Even with a dose of versed she struggle's mightily when they sedate her. She's too young for this, but anything they could come up with that would distract or otherwise reduce the trauma for her I'd be in favor of. This doesn't seem like such a ridiculous idea to me.
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Gotta get me one of these, it would add a whole new challenge to playing tetris.
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In many people, it gives an enhanced sense of euphoria, though a majority of that feeling comes from near-asphyxiation.
This isn't really correct. N20 has euphoric and hallucinogenic properties in itself. People generally get a euphoric feeling whilst breathing it in combination with oxygen.
If your statement was true, people would get a similar effect breathing nitrogen or helium.
Because of course it is completely unthinkable, that we just might be completely incompetent crappy idiot parents. Right?
I wonder when those things will become government-mandated in schools.
I wonder when the first rise in child abuse will start, because of this.
I wonder when children will grow up, being used to that thing, and just thing it's ok to wear it all the time.
I wonder when those things will become government-mandated for everyone not working for the inner party.
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If I could get my kid to wear the frickin' helmet, I wouldn't need to sedate him!
Yes, this is why dentists generally give you acid / shrooms before sedating you with nitrous.
Now you too can raise your own little reaver!
Look, I'm not going to get into the whole debate about punishments. But this isn't even for when the kid did something wrong. It's a kid with a medical problem, which makes a lot of adults anxious too, in an unfamiliar place, etc. It's a kid which is ill, maybe in pain, and scared.
So your solution is obviously to smack him upside the head... Just because in your day they didn't have ways to make an already shitty situation less traumatizing. Better make sure your kid is properly traumatized by the experience too.
Right...
Geeze. This must be a new low even by the standards of Slashdot trolling.
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If you bothered to RTFA, you'd find that it's not for when the kid did anything wrong. It's to get a kid sedated when he's got a medical problem, might even be in pain, and he's likely scared too.
Now I can imagine alternative ways to calm a scared kid down, but advocating smacking an already scared and sick kid... strikes me as the most idiotic thing I've read on Slashdot in ages.
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I think AC meant from a recreational point of view. Given a large enough dose, it'll knock you out either way, of course.
It is pitch black. You are likely to be eaten by a grue.
They do give a similar effect. Helium is different because it is much lighter than the other components of air, so any oxygen in your lungs, trachea, and mouth sinks into your lungs and dulls the 'asphyxiation' effect. Also note majority - N2O does, in fact, have some euphoric properties, but only a little more than asphyxiation.
I can't speak to the hallucinogenic properties. I've never heard mention of it, but it wouldn't surprise me.
Nitrous oxide is addictive. In humans, it elicits a feeling of euphoria, though a majority of that feeling comes from the yet well-understood properties of anesthesia in general, but it has been observed to be an NMDA receptor antagonist, as are most anesthetics in use by physicians today.
Chill on the original thought produced by propaganda-induced association with inhalants. Just because you inhale something doesn't mean all it does is displace oxygen.
http://www.jneurosci.org/cgi/content/abstract/18/23/9716
http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/nitrous/nitrous.shtml
That's not to say that it can't kill you by displacing necessary respiratory gases, but that's not what you were insinuating.
And I'm disputing "majority". I guess it would be possible to get more of a buzz from oxygen deprivation if (ab)used in that way (prolonged breathing of N2O exclusively, which would be pretty stupid), but that is certainly not the case in "normal" recreational usage. I have used nitrous several times without getting anywhere near "asphyxiation" and got a fairly strong euphoric effect.
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and nobody bothered to point out how hilarious that picture is?
Shit looks like a retard helmet.
I prefered babycage.net myself, but this seems more believable than their teenager cage, so i'll give this hoax 1 thumb up. wait what? ohhh
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Which dentist is this again? :D
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Anyone else curious why this is flamebait?
A lot of addictive things need to be burned. :)
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It'd be their best seller.
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Just because you inhale something doesn't mean all it does is displace oxygen.
Wait wait wait, who said anything about inhaling? Nitrous oxide goes in the cylinders, the smile comes from the whooshing sound that the world makes as it goes by!
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I grew up in the soviet union at the time when dental equipment could only be compared to Gestapo torture tools (no anesthesia, very low rpm) . Even now the childhood trauma makes me so nervous that it takes twice the normal dose to make the sensations acceptable, even though I rationally know that there is nothing to be afraid of anymore.
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What if they serve Red Bull instead of Nitrous Oxide out of it to the kid?
It'll be interesting to see how this wud dramatically improve the hospital/dental experience for the child, parents and healthcare providers.
In the demonstration video, the examples they show of kids crying while getting wounds treated are awake--but the kids are only awake because they were given local anesthesia, and not a general to put them under.
With the Pedisedate helmet, the kids just "fall asleep and wake up with no memory of the ordeal",,,,, but if the whole point of using only a local anesthetic was to avoid using a general anesthetic (which is a factor particularly in certain types of head injuries) then the Pedisedate helmet is no help at all.
Additionally, the video does not demonstrate that the Pedisedate has any advantage over just applying general anesthesia the normal way (which in itself involves painlessly breathing through a normal respirator, and that only takes maybe all of 30 seconds to take effect)
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Effing hell people, if a child won't sit still, drag him/her to judo/dance classes or something (not necessarily respectively).
Do they get born with this kit standard included?
Does it has batteries included?
Are the supplies easy to buy, because we don't want to get out of sedation when play^H^H^H^Hworking!
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Try it after smoking a little weed. Even a tiny amount of NO2 (IE: the same amount when not stoned has no effect whatsoever) will have a very dramatic effect, lasting no more than 60 seconds.
Absolutely. One of the most common complaints of chronically ill children is that they are lied to. Paraphrasing one 7 year old boy with cancer: "When they say that this won't hurt a bit, what they usually mean is that it will only hurt for a moment. Why can't they just say that instead?" As soon as they catch you lying, they will never trust your reassurances about anything else. A woman could come to the hospital room for 30 minutes to help fill out insurance paperwork, but the kid is going to be afraid the whole time because he doesn't believe you when you tell him that the visitor isn't doing to do anything painful to him.
So it'll be what, the next 8 episodes of Family Guy where the creepy old guy has one of these?
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Hmm, either you made an absolutely wonderful analogy, or you just proved you don't understand two different areas of medical science.
Acupuncture has been shown to effective for the treatment of pain. It would be effective in mitigating the pain associated with everything from cancer to cuts and scrapes. It would not, however, treat the root causes. If you were using acupuncture as an example of "junk" medicine that really doesn't work, you fail. On the other hand, if you were using it as an example of something that seems like it would be counterproductive, but actually works for treatment of some conditions, you've hit a home run.
Almost all ADHD drugs are stimulant medication. If you give them to someone who doesn't have ADD/ADHD you will see an increase in hyperactivity, decrease in attention control and a the subject might get a mild sence of euphoria (but only if to much was given).
But in an ADHD patient, the stimulant medication have a CALMING effect. This is strikingly counterintuitive, yet is real double-blind tested science. (Acupuncture, by its nature cannot be tested with a double blind test, so the evidence for its effectiveness might be slightly less conclusive.)
However, from your last paragraph, I'm guessing you understand NEITHER aspects of medical science. Sadly, not understanding something does not make it any less true. You were blessed with sons with "easy" personalities. Congratulations, your sons probably do not have ADD. This is not a result of your parenting methods, it is a result of your genetics. Some people have ADD, for some of these children medication is required so that they CAN learn not to "stand up, escape, run out of the room, [or] throw a random object."
Asking people with diagnosed medical conditions to stop taking their medication, or worse, asking people who's CHILDREN have diagnosed medical conditions to stop treatment because you do not understand the mechanism of the condition or treatment is irresponsible. When penicillin was first discovered, there was a small amount of backlash against it. People claimed that the old folk treatments were more effective, and that the penicillin craze was caused by manufacturers wanting to make more money off an injection. Indeed, the very notion of an injection was, at one time, considered barbarous. Yet again and again controlled, scientific studies show the same results: acupuncture is effective in the mitigation of pain, Ritalin is effective in the treatment of ADD and ADHD, antibiotics are effective in the treatment of bacterial infections. Refusing your child any of the three of these, if he or she has been properly diagnosed with a condition for which they are the most appropriate treatment, should be considered child abuse. Giving any of these to your child if he or she does not have the condition for which they are appropriate treatment is likewise abusive.
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Sure, you can't buy it today, but how long until these are advertised like Viagra?
"PediSedate Helmet is not for everyone. If you suffer from repressed rage, post-natal depression, single-motherhood or pedophilia, ask your doctor if PediSedate Helmet is right for your family. Check your mail for a 20% off coupon for refill cannisters of nitrous oxide. PediSedate Helmet: quiet at last, quiet that lasts..."
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"...allows the procedure to be performed by less skilled personnel..."
10 The kid trusts you less because you've been dishonest
20 You need to be dishonest to the kid because he doesn't trust you.
30 If trust < smallvalue then useknockouthelmet=1
40 GOTO 10
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I got my first dose of Nitrous when I was 12, and I am literally hooked for life! As soon as it hit, I remember thinking, "damn, I need to get some of this stuff for when I'm not at the dentist!" Of course this comment is a bit tongue-in-cheek; but seriously, I don't like the idea of giving kids nitrous unless it's to cut some serious pain. The stuff is just too fun!
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