New Hitchhiker's Guide Book "Not Very Funny"
daria42 writes "An early review of part of the Eoin Colfer-penned sequel to Douglas Adams's Hitchhikers' Guide to the Galaxy series has panned the book as not being very funny. If you read Hitchhiker to have a good laugh, maybe you're going to be disappointed," wrote Nicolas Botti, on his Douglas Adams fan site earlier this month."
I always found humor in literature overrated. A few funny bits in any book is fine, but to read an entire book that was suppose to be funny. I dunno I can't see myself enjoying it that much. Even if the jokes were intelligent and witty.
They said the same thing about the Hollywood movie, and look how that turned...
Oh, CRAP!
I only found the first two books funny. The rest... not so much.
No matter what author at any level of talent that had picked up the books and decided to continue them would be met with heresy or at very least a review of "not as good as the original".
As a writer I know how to mimic the words of others, but it doesn't mean that a person with a significant and highly educated fan base wouldn't pick up on the subtle differences, because no matter how good someone try's to imitate another person, in writing, it's just not the same.
Besides the fact that the expectations, especially those of slashdot's community, are so high you have little chance of being honored with anyone other than "mainstream" media who may have water on the brain, but enough money to throw at people to make them happy, even if slashdot or many fans don't approve.
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Adams was a genius and having someone else pick up where he left off with anything makes no sense. If they are that good - they should be writing their own stuff.
I'll never forget the night I was baby-sitting some neighbor kids. They were in bed and I was watching PBS. A show came on and it was hilarious - that's how I found out about HHG - and once I got the books it was all over - I loved reading everything he wrote, even the unedited bits published after his death.
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Why Eoin Colfer? All of his books have been, meh. And what is with the general trend of taking classic, decent works and making crappy sequels? Its most evident in Hollywood (Indiana Jones and the Crystal Skull, all the half-hearted Disney made-for-DVD sequels of major works, etc), but now even books are?
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I don't understand what drives people so crazy about the ending of Mostly Harmless. Even Adams said he didn't like the bleak ending. Am I alone in thinking this was the best ending of a book I have ever read?
Sure it's bleak. I don't care. Nearly every other novel I've read that I enjoyed the ending always has seemed abrupt. I get attached to the characters and now the story just 'ends'. Mostly Harmless fixed that. Their dead. The Earth is gone. All of them. There are no 'what now?' questions left. The end of Mostly Harmless had closure - somthing I have failed to find in any story since.
Now comes this crap, off to ruin it.
No offence to Mr Colfer, but they really should have gone with a more appropriate writer. Someone in the same vein of writing, or at least comedy. I wonder if Pratchett would have been a preferred candidate before his diagnosis?
Well, it's not like 'Mostly Harmless' was very funny either.
While I am a huge Artemis Fowl fan, I'm not surprised that Colfer isn't able to pull off the Hitchhiker's universe as well. Adams and Colfer just have a completely different style of writing, and Colfer's does not fit the Hitchhiker's universe.
I realize there is plenty of dry and black humor, in the most British sense of the words, but the triumph, in my opinion, was that he told a compelling story in spite of that, not because of it. Obviously if you found them humorous as well, then that probably lent something to the subjective quality of the novels. But the HHGTTG series had a much wider audience than British comedy does, so clearly it wasn't the humor alone that drove the popularity, and I think that focusing on that alone is missing the appeal of the books. It's missing the forest for the trees, the way George Lucas did with his prequels, assuming that the popularity of the series had something to do with the special effects, when they were really just a footnote in a story and universe (ok, galaxy) that we loved.
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Sorry, but the LAST HHGTTG book, "Mostly Harmless", wasn't all that funny, either - and that WAS written by Douglas himself.
Considering that it ended with the destruction of pretty much EVERYTHING, I don't see how the new book could even BE - let alone BE FUNNY, unless the do a complete reboot of the HHGTTG universe.
("...with younger, edgier characters!")
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Maybe the reviewer didn't appreciate the type of humor in the book. I read Hitchhikers' Guide to the Galaxy years ago and didn't find it to be very funny, so maybe I will find this one funny instead.
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Adams himself felt that the last book was a downer, written during a rough period of his life, and expressed a desire to write more than one book in the series to avoid having it end on such a negative note.
Should've been called: "It Is What It Is"
If you read Hitchhiker to have a good laugh, maybe you're going to be disappointed,"
So its like books 4 and 5 then. I thought book 4 was the best in the series, though I think I'm in the minority since lots of people didn't like it because it didn't have a laugh a sentence.
I disliked the 5th book so much I seem to have successfully suppressed it in my memory to the point where I don't even remember what it was about. Perhaps there wasn't even a 5th book and I'm just confused.
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You didn't read Discworld, then? Is not that the entire books means to be funny, but have a lot of good laughs, and that in a story interesting enough that have a bit of everything. When i have to classify the secondary genre of those books, i doubt between fantasy, terror, sci-fi, philosophy and others, but the first one is humor definately.
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People get all bent out of shape about other authors stepping in and writing works in a dead (or sometimes living) authors 'universe', but I don't understand how the Colfer guy writing a book makes Adams's books any less good than they already were? Nothing this guy can do can hurt Adams's legacy, so just go sit down, and maybe take some valium or prozac or something.
Humour shouldn't have a rigorous, robust and elegant definition. Humour is better served being defined reflexively, funny is just funny. Frame Analysis gives a pretty good working analysis of humour as breaking frame, or, context, or, maybe just wind. Mark Twain's scene of a loud fart in church is pretty good humour, more so because, for many people, myself not included, farts and religious ceremonies don't go together. A good story is something very different than good humour because a good tale has to be engaging and cogent and both are matters of rhetoric and rhetoric is complex and touches upon matters of acquired taste. Good art is a work of genius and rightly beyond analysis.
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Seriously, if you want more Adams humor, and haven't done so already, go read "Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency" and the sequel "The Long, Dark, Tea-time of the Soul". H2G2 isn't the only great series Adams made.
They are great books, and probably way better than anything in this new book.
Mostly Humorless.
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10 karma points say you also liked BSG (not necessarily the ending, but the "new" series).
I enjoyed The Guide at first, but it got bleaker and bleaker the longer I read. By the end, it just felt bitter and hopeless, which I didn't find very enjoyable.
I much prefer Babylon 5's "Faith manages" to BSG's "Everyone sucks".
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The last Adams penned HHG2G was not really funny either. Cool, but not funny.
We all define our own notion of the canon - we may orbit around the publisher or primary author, but we're not limited to that. I don't consider any Dr Who after the 7th Doctor to be canon, some of my friends consider everything but the movie to be canon, and there is disagreement about the books as well. People don't hold the same canon on Zelazny, Lovecraft, and plenty of others. I'm sure it'll be likewise with HHGTtG and this book. I don't think we should become too upset over new content unless we really need everyone on the same page.
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Perhaps Colfer only watched the movie.
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Is this the same Douglas Adams we're talking about?
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I think Mostly Harmless made it pretty clear that Douglas Adams was more than done with the series. If any further proof was necessary, I had an opportunity to talk with Adams shortly before his death, and got the same impression -- he was sick of the series, and wrote Mostly Harmless because he had to.
I would much rather have read a third Dirk Gentley novel than a half-hearted Hitchhiker novel, and might have but for rabid Hitchhiker fans. Not that I'm bitter.
It doesn't really matter what the new novel is like. I'm done with that.
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Here's a hint: wait until you actually read it, or at least until you see more than one person's opinion.
You know, there is a difference between trolling and pointing out the flaws in your reasoning. Just saying.
Look, when I was 12 (in 1984), I though the first 2 books were funny. The third wasn't. The fourth was terrible. I didn't bother with the rest.
And you know what? Not even the first 2 books are funny anymore. They haven't held up. At the time of their publication, they were fairly ground-breaking, but that style of humor just hasn't aged well at all (which tends to happen to all kinds of humor). It's juvenile and obvious, really. Nothing wrong with that, but it means the books have a shelf-life, and the HHGTTG books are about 20 years past their expiration date. They are cultural artifacts, not "classics".
They're in the wrong places in the summary. (As of this comment.)
So when is the next Dirk Gently book going to be written. Someone should finish A Salmon of doubt.
The first Dirk book was 10x better than any of the HH books
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This is no troll. Humour in books doesn't work as well as it does on film, TV or live.
There are few books I've found to be really funny, and I read 30+ books a year. Douglas Adams' books along with say Catch-22 and maybe Running with Scissors are about the only ones that come to mind.
Humour works better when you can have the jokes delivered with timing. I've found audio books make some books much funnier when it's done well.
Even film has it's weaknesses for humour. Film tends to want a narrative to drive things and there often isn't enough time for character development. TV is better. I'd prefer The Simpsons, Seinfeld, Yes Prime Minister, Drop the Dead Donkey, Faulty Towers and Monty Python to most comedy films any day.
The Hitchhiker's Guide was meant to be funny? No one told me that all those decades ago. I read it like any good student - as if it were a history book!!
Next thing, you'll be telling me that L. Ron Hubbard made up his religion.
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What is the point of a HHGTTG book if it is not funny? Is the Ghost of Andy Kaufman writing it, and the joke is on the readers? Is it more of a Political Book now instead of a Humor Book?
It is like a Stephen King book that isn't scary and has no horror elements in it and uses adverbs to describe things instead of actions taken by the characters and all of the other stuff Stephen King doesn't do.
It is like a Stephen Hawking book that is unscientific and tries to convince people to give up science and technology and join the Amish.
Remember, Slashdot does not have a -1 disagree moderation, and no, troll, flamebait, and overrated are not substitutes.
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The original Hitchhiker wasn't funny either.
Unless he's referring to the actually-quite-good BBC TV series, that was first aired in 1981 - after the first book, before the adventure game, etc etc.
Why would anyone engrave "Elbereth"?
Sure, there are many authors I'd consider more witty than Douglas Adams, but his particular flavor was just right. Nobody can reproduce his work.
"I am having terrible difficulty with my lifestyle."
...and cue the fleet-eating canines in 3...2...1...
Don't tell me to get a life. I'm a gamer; I have LOTS of lives!
When the writer of your favorite serial entertainment departs (whether it be novels, comic books, TV, whatever), you need to, as well. Took me a long time to learn that, but: It's dead, Jim.
We know where leadership by an anti-intellectual "strongman" who scapegoats minorities and likes boisterous rallies goes
If you read the book to be disappointed, maybe you're going to have a good laugh.
You know what they say about opinions. They're all fabulous!
If they are that good - they should be writing their own stuff
[Eoin Colfer](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eoin_Colfer) actually does write "his own stuff". And I actually really like him as an author. He writes interesting, witty books. They could have picked worse people to write a Hitchhiker's Guide. However, Colfer writes books for children and young adults, while I would say that Adams' books are aimed at adults. Also, the humor is very different. Adams' humour is both wry and very inventive. His books gain much of their humour from his description of bizarre details. Colfer writes very differently. His humor tends to be more banal. Where Adams has the melancholic robot, Colfer has a farting troll.
So yeah. I haven't read Colfer's Hitchhiker's Guide, obviously, but I would say that if you expect a book along the lines of what Adams was capable of, you're probably not going to get it. If you'll accept a Colfer book set in Adams' universe, you might end up liking it.
There is a reason why good series end with their characters dead, its so that they end. Adams was no idiot he killed them for a very good reason and they do NOT need resurrecting.
As has been said several times above, this is ONE review of the new book. A review which was written by someone whose idea of a reasonable and publishable sentence runs: "And he has not the same grip on comic timing than Douglas had.â Jesus. I'll wait for a few more opinions myself. Thanks for the headsup though slashdot.
There are few books I've found to be really funny, and I read 30+ books a year. Douglas Adams' books along with say Catch-22 and maybe Running with Scissors are about the only ones that come to mind.
Humour works better when you can have the jokes delivered with timing. I've found audio books make some books much funnier when it's done well.
Have you tried Pratchett? His are the funniest books I have ever read, well apart from The Profanisaurus Which is similar to Adam's The Meaning of Lif
Even film has it's weaknesses for humour. Film tends to want a narrative to drive things and there often isn't enough time for character development. TV is better. I'd prefer The Simpsons, Seinfeld, Yes Prime Minister, Drop the Dead Donkey, Faulty Towers and Monty Python to most comedy films any day.
Agreed. With the significant exception that is South Park:BLU (many of my friends didn't like the TV series but love the movie), your opinion could be due to your good taste in TV comedy. Might I suggest Spaced? - as it it another example of a TV series that isn't known as well as the films it spawned [Hot Fuzz and Shaun of the Dead] but IMHO being better and funnier.
If this were really happening, what would you think?
You could always learn to read with timing... :-)
Literary humour works in different ways to visual humour - there are plays on words within narrative that are not possible within audio/video, and there are things that work better on TV/radio - a good conversion between the two mediums works with this (have you seen the Sky TV adaptations of two of the discworld books? Remarkably good, and on quite a small (in Hollywood terms) budget).
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If this were really happening, what would you think?
I guess the first book of the 5 part trilogy was meant as a comedy, however the complete 'trilogy' wasn't meant as one in my opinion. Though there are plenty of funny bits in the books, the complete work wasn't really funny (although I do think it was quite good..) , especially with all the characters being dead in the end, earth destroyed etc etc Douglas' style was somewhat like that of Terry Pratchett. Even serious topics can be told using a humorous/sarcastic undertone...
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The HHTG series got less funny as it progressed, as Adams grew more frustrated with writing.
He hated writing with a passion, and often had to be locked in his office to meet deadlines. Since the fourth and fifth books of the trilogy were new material rather than expanded radio scripts, they suffer from this far more obviously - it took him eight years to write Mostly Harmless, with the other books all being released within two years of each-other.
I must also note that Adams already started on a sequel, (prequel) called Young Zaphod Plays It Safe Wiki
Unfortunately he suffered a TEF at the gym before he could finish it; his final joke.
If you have genuine interest in his works you'd probably benefit from checking out the soon-to-be-released BBC remake of Last Chance To See Wiki - A short documentary series following some of the worlds most endangered animals, Due to start September 6th on BBC2
The entire radio miniseries is available on the BBC website linked above, and is drenched in Adam's usual style.
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Ok... with my palms facing me and my thumbs in... using 4 on my left hand and 2 on my right hand, I'm sticking up my two ring fingers.
Thumbs out would have worked, or thumbs in/palms out... but then you'd be flipping yourself off.
Oh... maybe you're from a part of the world that starts counting with your thumbs. We don't do that here...
I recently sat down to re-read the 5-book trilogy. I first started reading the series before book 4 came out, I don't remember quite when (late 70's, early 80's, something like that). And at that time I loved them. It's probably been over a decade since I read all 5. But here's the sad part: I really don't like them too much any more. There are parts that still make me laugh, and I still think the 1st and 4th books are the best (or at least my favs), but I just don't find them funny anymore. I'm sure that I'll pick up #6, but I don't really have high hopes. I guess all that remains is to re-read the two Dirk Gently books. I liked the 1st, don't remember what I thought of the second.
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The Hitchhiker story is over, there's no need for more Hitchhiker books. Why not try to finish that third Dirk Gently book Adams was working on when he died? The series may not be as famous but it probably has more potential.
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Short of "...and then the universe ceased to exist, and all of time with it," I'm not sure how you can avoid someone desperate enough to think of a sequel (or a prequel if necessary) to come up with one.
Huh? That happened in Book 2 of HHGTTG and Adams himeself did 3 more sequels :-)
Then in book 5 the Earth gets annihhilated from every possible parallel universe and still the BBC managed to come up with a new epilogue for the radio adaptation.
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For those who don't like the downer ending,
Listen to the BBC radio adaptation of the final book for one solution to this. Normally tacking on a happy ending would be abhorrent, but they claim that Adams expressed regrets at killing everybody.
Yes, I know its complicated - the first two books were adapted from the radio, the last three books were adapted to the radio and a legion of Bobby Ewings emerged from the shower to paper over the cracks. Thank God (or at least the guy from Eels' dad) for parallel universes.
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When I read Mostly Harmless I found it riveting. I immediately re-read it and tried to understand what I had just read - like one would after watching Memento, Twelve Monkeys, The Usual Suspects, or LA Confidential. It has been 16 years now, so I can't remember if I could make sense of it or not. At least I didn't hate it in the same way I hate a David Lynch film that deliberately sets out to be completely nonsensical rather than just difficult to understand.
It wasn't like the other 4 books, or the Dirk Gently novels for that matter. But I don't think it was bad to the point of recommending someone avoid it, like I'd recommend a Metallica fan avoid St. Anger.
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Warning: The parent message contains spoilers, and shouldn't have been read by those who don't want to know how the last book ends.
What a shocker...anyone who's read Artemis Fowl knows that Colfer thinks melodrama passes for humor.
To quote the man himself,
"This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move."
Writer not reincarnation of Douglas Adams ? How can this happen? I thought we had somebody taking care of this. I mean, we got the one of the greatest scifi writers ever, and nobody even bothered making sure somebody acts as a vessel for him and makes sure he writes more good stuff, bloody british curse word!
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Ridiculous, people need to learn to not drag on something that is done and over with. If you're a good author you don't continue a dead guy's novel series which he ended, you write a new story with new ideas perhaps drawing inspiration from hitchhikers guide. Continuing a series that was ended is just a total waste of time. The series was completed, get over it! (also fans of hitchiker need to reed dirk gentlys wholistic detective agency if you havnt already)
I see your point, and if you consider *Adams's* later work inferior, that can diminish it. But let's face it, with this other guy who just wrote this new HHGTG novel, since it wasn't from Adams, people who don't like it can just ignore it and say 'that never happened'.
I went through this last year with the TV series "Legend of the Seeker", which purported to be an adaptation of the series of novels called the "Sword of Truth" series. Because of the TV show, I learned of the books, and read the books. The books were awesome (mostly - some better than others, of course), but the TV show kind of sucked. Does that make the Sword of Truth any less good, just because the TV show was pretty lame? Not to me, at least. (Although, it does mean that nobody else can come along and make a *good* adaptation for TV or movies, because ABC/Disney, who produced the show, secured exclusive TV/Movie rights, which is a shame).
A fiction author's legacy, is, largely, the books and universe (characters, settings, etc) that the author created. Someone else attempting to add to that and not doing a good job doesn't make the work that came before any less good.
Even with your example with the Matrix, the first Matrix movie is still a great movie, even if the sequels were a bit of a let-down.
...for people who write sequels to series they didn't write: LAAAAAAAAAAAAAME! This bastard, the bastards behind the new Dune and Amber books, all of 'em. Write your own shit, you parasitic hacks.
Most people miss that Douglas Adams was a huge fan of P.G. Wodehouse and would channel his writing style. Wodehouse just had a damn funny way of
describing things as an example:
â€oeShe had a voice like a troop of cavalry crossing a tin bridge.†vs "They hung in the air exactly the same way that bricks don't."
If this guy can't channel Wodehouse he has no business writing Hitchhikers.
If anybody I would have rather seen Terry Pratchett and Neil Gaimen write it but there too many reasons that wouldn't have happened.
>Considering that it ended with the destruction of pretty much EVERYTHING, I don't see how the new book could even BE - let alone BE FUNNY, >unless the do a complete reboot of the HHGTTG universe.
>("...with younger, edgier characters!")
Exactly. Starting with the _daughter_ that everybody seems to have forgotten about.
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HHGTTG has always been what I thought was my biggest disconnect from geek culture. I read it in college (in '00, probably), and was pretty solidly bored throughout. To me, it was nothing more than a collection of absurdities and non-sequiturs strung into a ungripping narrative. I'd describe it as a trite version of Vonnegut or Heller, but without any of the soul.
I've never really understood the appeal. I won't assert that it sucks, but it sure isn't on my wavelength.
That said, I can't believe they would actually try giving this to another writer. This fanbase is too... fickle? smart? discerning?
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Now, if you want to see a truly abrupt ending, read The Salmon of Doubt (and that, if you truly loved the mans work, should make you cry.)
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then the joke loses its....punch. "42" isn't funny now because you know it's the answer. The first time you read the book, there's all this build up to it and then...42. The second time around, there's no suspense, no tension.
I have to admit I could watch Dr. Evil say "laser" with finger quotes a thousand times and it would still crack me up.
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The only thing the thumb instruction does is get it out of the way of the right hand count (as well as set you up to only have one finger up on each hand)
For each hand, the "counting" is done by visualizing a little endian representation for each finger as if it were written down on paper in the order the fingers appear:
This isn't counting symmetrically from anywhere. In any case, palms toward/away aren't magical in itself. If your friends see things as you have apparently seen them, then the joke starts "palms down..."
Yeah, thanks, I have tried Pratchett and didn't like it. I keep meaning to read some more again and give it another chance.
Spaced is great. As are Black Books, The IT Crowd and The Inbetweeners.
The entire radio miniseries is available on the BBC website linked above, and is drenched in Adam's usual style.
It's not if you happen to be outside the UK: "Not available in your area".
True, part of it probably is the way I read. However it seems to be the way quite a few people are.
That's true about some jokes working better in print. Douglas Adam's books have great jokes about ideas and words that work better in print than in other media.
But, in general, the devices available live appeal more. The big point is that the parent post was unfairly marked as a troll when the guy was probably was expressing his point of view and a point of view that is probably held by quite a few people here.
Much of the discussion in this thread focuses on how well/badly the new author will emulate Douglas Adams. What if, rather than that, the new author writes a story in his own distinctive style but set in the Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy universe? Instead of trying to emulate the past, the new author focuses on writing an entertaining book.
The passage to the new author could even be treated as a point of humor in the new novel (the dark humor is suitable to a Hitchhiker's book). Much like in the movie "Monty Python And The Whole Grail" when the knights survive a monster's attack when the monster disappears because the animator suddenly dies.
As a comic book reader, changing writers is a matter of course for me, and sometimes it can lead to terrific stories. As an example, I've enjoyed Green Lantern over the years and there have been some good stories, but when Geoff Johns took over the series he wrote (and is writing) the best Green Lantern stories I've ever read, and has introduced concepts that taken the series in very different direction. This includes the revelation that there are eight different lantern colors, each linked to a different emotional state, which has lead to a massive war between the different lantern corps.
Oh, we haven't forgotten about her, although we would definitely prefer that to have been the case.