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CA City Mulls Evading the Law On Red-Light Cameras
TechDirt is running a piece on Corona, CA, where officials are considering ignoring a California law that authorizes red-light cameras — cutting the state and the county out of their portion of the take — in order to increase the city's revenue. The story was first reported a week ago. The majority of tickets are being (automatically) issued for "California stops" before a right turn on red, which studies have shown rarely contribute to an accident. TechDirt notes the apparent unconstitutionality of what Corona proposes to do: "The problem here is that Corona is shredding the Sixth Amendment of the US Constitution, the right to a trial by jury. By reclassifying a moving violation... to an administrative violation... Corona is doing something really nefarious. In order to appeal an administrative citation you have to admit guilt, pay the full fine, and then apply for a hearing in front of an administrative official, not a judge in a court. The city could simply deny all hearings for administrative violations or schedule them far out in advance knowing full well that they have your money, which you had to pay before you could appeal."
That slashdot outage was terrible. I almost got some work done..
This is an open source project, and just from some brief looks at the source they are using grub as the boot loader. This might be a new beginning for microsoft research.
It's WM_PAINT all over again.
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3 "New Architechture" operating systems.
Microsoft is getting more like the old Xerox and IBM every day.
Xerox PARC: Create industry changing new technology that we hear about but never see. Never release.
IBM of the 1980's: Fat, lethargic, bureaucracy driven.
Microsoft right now: Both.
I'm still waiting for Cairo.
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BMO
Imagine what might have happened if this actually got momentum behind it and we never went through the stagnation that is DOS/Windows.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atari_Transputer_Workstation
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Transputers had 4 HW links -- those are probably the easiest part to replicate in current processors.
The difficult part is the threading model: Transputers had their own thread model. Scheduler was hardwired in silicon, together with a couple of dedicated instructions. SW could not tell the difference between a local and a remote communication. Efficient, but not very flexible in terms of OS architecture.
...but still can't handle modern web standards.
Making jokes for this OS should be as easy as shooting fish in a barrel...
"Freedom in the USA is not the ability to do what you want. It is the ability to stop others from doing what THEY want"
I'm at loss for words... I want to thank my mom, the cat, the postman, my cousin Gill - all those wonderful persons/animals/entities that made this possible. 'Cept Frank. Screw you, Frank.
that's a surprise. http://www.barrelfish.org/barrelfish_sosp09.pdf
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Say what you want about Microsoft, but their research division does a hell of a lot of genuine innovation.
This is an important problem area for future software systems, great that alternative approaches are being looked at. More power to them.
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Microsoft is far to big to change direction. They are a marketing company trying to wring every last penny out of windows and related tools. They have never been a technology company and trying to change now will do nothing but burn vast sums of money. Windows is obsolete and they know they have to replace it but they will never be able to come up with anything better.
They could develop new and better OS's at a fraction of their current research costs by simply giving cash to universities to do the work and keeping their hands off the projects. Sadly they can't think like that.
Please tell me I'm not the only one amused by the whole "best built on Debian or Ubuntu, 'cos thats what we use" part of the README...
It was more of a programming language than an Operating System, but ERLANG has the stuff to do multi-core, well. Using ERLANG, they've actually achieved nine nines of uptime. That works out to well under a SECOND of downtime in a year. It scales (near) linearly as the number of cores go up, IO is the limitation.
You can read all about it here. Concepts like message passing and immutability is what makes it work.
Erlang actually lets you update the program while it's running. It has extensive error recovery. It's lack of shared state means you can not only go multi-core, but multi-system over networks - invisibly.
Seriously, It's the cat's meow for ultra-high-end high-performance, industrial-grade software solutions. If I were writing a stock exchange management system, I would probably consider ERLANG.
I have no problem with your religion until you decide it's reason to deprive others of the truth.
It's a little hard to determine whether this is actually about discrete multicore systems, or heterogenous clusters. Sure, a single conventional machine is likely to have both CPU and GPU, but it's less likely to have x86_64, x86 and CPUs. So to some extent, I suspect heterogenous clusters. In the case of a single box, this would come across as a massive prototyping effort simply to avoid supporting an open-tracked standard (OpenCL).
Village idiot in some extremely smart villages.
When Microsoft wonders why Mac is perceived and cool and Windows isn't take a clue from their naming conventions. Barrelfish vs Snow Leopard. Can you spot the cooler name? After Vista flopped the marketing department went out and got drunk and said "aw fuck it, we'll just call the next one Windows 7". Just kind of feels like they really aren't even trying.
I would like something that is a combination of Inferno/Plan9(styx is nice) and Erlang as a stand-alone OS. Throw in any other cool features for good multiprocessor and high performance clustering and fault tolerance. (Although if Erlang-like, I would like some better syntax, it's a little hairy). The idea of being able to scale to 20 million threads on one system efficiently with Erlang is intriguing, although I estimated that it would take about 48GiB of RAM to just have the stack data. But that's not so bad, it's pretty easy to find an affordable server motherboard that can accept 64GiB of RAM. (installing all that RAM is moderately expensive though)
“Common sense is not so common.” — Voltaire
The transputer programming model had the major problem that CPUs could only talk to their neighbours. So your software had to do all the marshaling when data needed to go several hops. This adds uhm, quite a bit of code.
Anybody remember connection machine LISP? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Connection_Machine http://portal.acm.org/citation.cfm?id=319870
To check for malware brought in through security holes opened by running virtual machines, hehehe ;)
Because... even OSX can't protect you from stupid. There's not a pill you can take.. or a book you can read.
Just wait till major linux distros start including one, if that market share ever perks up above the uber-geek demographic.
Isn't it a shame that after all the hard work the devs put into great ideas like this at MS, once the accountants and marketers get their hands on it it comes out the doors like Vista! There's something seriously wrong with the workflow in that company...
six years of development and a console to show....
In the build notes... it points that they're building it not in Microsoft(R) Windows(TM) but in recent Debian/Ubuntu distros...
What makes me think... why didn't they choose the Windows OS?
Any idea?
PD: This' not a flamewar post, it's just curious about if building 64 bits apps (OS in this case) is harder in a Windows machine rathen than in a Linux one.
Vista in my eyes brought about the changes to Windows that needed to happen. It was the adolescence stage of Windows IMO, and the result is a matured Windows 7 that's hit the ground running. Sure Vista was painful at the beginning, but it shaped up and turned into a respectable OS in the end, and now W7 is bearing the fruit of that as pretty much all the reviews have stated.
Before Vista; Windows really was quite immature (and I refer more to the "Windows way" of doing things more than the tech capability) .
-Admin by default
-Firewall barely a consideration
-AV a bonus
-Automatic updates a nicety
-32bit mandatory (64bit XP was a joke)
-No DEP/ASLR/Kernel protection
Admittedly most of those were tweaked with SP2; but Vista was the first OS to have all these fixes baked in from RTM, and surprise....it broke stuff
throw new NoSignatureException();
At last a TFA which is actually hosted on the system it's talking about, and it refuses to break so we can make "It must be running Barrelfish" jokes. Maybe it really is efficient.
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Damn, my RAM is full of llamas.
Clearly you have no idea what GCD is.
Imagine what might have happened if this actually got momentum behind it and we never went through the stagnation that is DOS/Windows.
I think i just came a little.
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I've seen an ATW at work in the late 80s. My Archimedes could calculate a mandlebrot set in about 30 seconds, a PC needed several minutes for that. The ATW could zoom in and out mandlebrots _in real time_ and one fly through them like through a 3D-world, I was really stunned when I saw that.
"Marshalling" means converting data structures into byte streams. No, you didn't have to do that multiple times. The term you're looking for is "routing". Routing can be abstracted into libraries and the OS; no need for every application to worry about it. It was just that the Transputer (as well as a lot of other system software development) was killed when Microsoft monopolized the market.
Will the screen still be blue?
No, but as an Apple fanboy, he's automatically +5.
...all too easy to mock. I'm not sure why, but I get the distinct impression that it will be easy to shoot...
Or set up a webshop in a less policed part of the world and sell it as the BEST ULTIMATE SUPER EASY DIET PILL EVER! Guaranteed to make you stop feeling fat!
Tiny writing on the back of bottle: "May cause death, consult physician before use."
This sounds a lot like a Mach 3.0 uK variant I worked on that ran on the Intel Hypercube. Before Intel canned that project. The interesting thing about that project was that in order to simulate the Hypercube we ran the OS on clusters of i386 machines. To me, this was the real application of the technology, exploiting the power of commodity boxes with a single OS.
Interestingly a lot of the original Mach 3.0 team got hired by Microsoft never to be be seen again (they were sent to some gulag somewhere cold and wet near alaska... Seattle I think they call it).
This all actually sounds sort of like they are trying to implement something like MPICH in their OS.
Imagine what might have happened if this actually got momentum behind it and we never went through the stagnation that is DOS/Windows.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atari_Transputer_Workstation [wikipedia.org]
Actually, I don't want to even think about it. That computer is amazing - and the IBM PC was nothing but a turd in comparison, but it won out. It's actually funny and sad at the same time, to think that people were using nice GUIs on Amigas and Ataris, and at the same time people in companies were using some ugly ASCII DOS-based softwares in the office. And THAT is what won!!!
"The agriculture ministry is not in charge of Gundam" - Japanese ministry official.
Can be used to do this as well as sync caches and allowing cross DRAM controller access.
But latency is as important as raw speed for many partially parallelizable applications
for more read the Berkeley Parallel Computing papers.
http://www.eecs.berkeley.edu/Pubs/TechRpts/2006/EECS-2006-183.html
Yeah.. imagine..
Wait what are you imagining? Fast, secure computers that are getting faster, cheaper and more secure each year? Don't we have those?
// MD_Update(&m,buf,j);
What does the global cooldown have to do with anything? We're not casting spells here.
The IBM-PC may have been a turd in comparison, but it was a turd that cost a tenth of the price while still doing most of what people needed a computer to do. So, it was a cost-efficient turd. That meant that companies could afford to computerize much more of their workforce, sooner, and that more families could get a computer, earlier. And I don't think that's sad at all.
If you don't know where you are going, you will wind up somewhere else.
You should take a look at XMOS. Several of the design team worked on the Transputer at Inmos. Aimed at the embedded electronics market it is a micro-controller with multiple cores, and the same threading model and HW links from the original Transputer. They also have a range of simulators and other dev toys for free download.
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Okay guys, who though it would be funny to prefill the story with comments from other story. damn you kdawson!
Or is recession so bad that now slashdot is recycling our comments?
How did I end up in the Windows 7 thread from the "CA City Mulls Evading the Law On Red Light Cameras" article? It even shows that in the address bar, so I'm not crazy here...
I used to have a sig, but I set it free and it never came back.
I don't see any exceptions in the constitution for "administrative violations".
Give me Classic Slashdot or give me death!
What the hell is going here? I see a story about Corona CA evading the law on red-light cameras and comments (and tags) are about some MS story?
In my humble opinion, the cameras should not be citing a violation for right turns at red lights. The cameras don't do this where I live. They are taking it too far.
Here we have "green arrow" traffic lights. Next to the green in a standard set of three lights, is a green arrow. If it lights, while red is lit, you can turn right, providing that you:
- stop before the lights (unconditionally)
- let all the traffic on the other lanes pass
- let the pedestrians pass.
It means you drive as from the lowest priority road, yielding to all other traffic - but if there is none, you don't have to wait for nothing.
Somehow I think this is more citizen-friendly than the cameras.
Of course it provides less revenue...
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Oh, goody, my account thinks that my previous comment is attached to the Microsoft Releases Prototype of Research OS "Barrelfish story. Brilliant!
I think that somehow /. just got rebooted into single-article mode. All the comments and all the stories are merged together. Maybe it's a cost-saving measure, cutting down on use of electrons and such...
coding is life
I don't know what the outage was, but why am I reading comments about open source code, routing, and marshaling in the comments about a constitutional overstep by a local municipality in CA?
-Rick
"Most people in the U.S. wouldn't know they live in a tyrannical state if it walked up and grabbed their junk." - MyFirs
Slashdot breaks comments.
Oh, great. The Barrelfish article isn't on the front page anymore, and the url for it just redirects to the red-light-cameras url.
Maybe the barrelfish article was supposed to be secret and CmdrTaco just got visited by the suits in black helicopters. This breakdown on /. is probably his subtle way of cluing us in to the shadowy government conspiracy.
Or, you know, some kind of computer failed somewhere. But the conspiracy thing is so much sexier.
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Git yer wordz right
It's extortion.
deleting the extra space after periods so i can stay relevant, yeah.
There was an article about MS Research's "barrelfish" OS that disappeared and got replaced with this one.
The lack of a moving violation has an advantage for the motorist. Here in Illinois, red-light tickets do not affect your driving record or insurance rates.
As a bicyclist in a city where red lights mean "four more cars!", I was happy to see the red light cameras arrive. Even after getting a ticket as a driver. The on-line video of my violation was educational - it looked like an audition for "Cops". I'm a lot more careful now.
Imagine what might have happened if this actually got momentum behind it and we never went through the stagnation that is DOS/Windows.
I think i just came a little.
I think I just threw up a little... at the moderation! "Interesting"?!? Informative, conceivably, (yuck). "Funny", perhaps. But "Interesting"? And, good grief, "Insightful"?
As in the Phoenix area, this seems to be as much about revenue as it is about safety and enforcement.
I don't begrudge them the revenue (after all, you get caught speeding, you be speeding generally) but the process doesn't allow for any meaningful appeal. And here in Phoenix, process servers that go out to actually serve those drivers that ignore the mail sometimes don't do a good job of service, like giving the papers to the 12-year-old, or even the wrong address. And that speaks to the general attitude that this system is just abusive.
Then again, we are speeding. If it's important, it's important enough to do right.
deleting the extra space after periods so i can stay relevant, yeah.
We, who live here endure things similar to this on a daily basis. The stats charges the highest taxes and you get nothing in return for that. The worst roads, some of the worst schools, terrible health care. But we do have a multi millionaire, movie star for a govenor. He doesn't have any of those issues!
"Computers are a lot like Air Conditioners" "They both work great until you start opening Windows"
Well, this is getting interesting. It's like madlibs, Slashdot edition!
Or they will frack up your server links .
"Computers are a lot like Air Conditioners" "They both work great until you start opening Windows"
OK so Im not an American, can someone explain how is it a single city can just arbitrarily breach state laws and constitution and legally enforce their own rules instead? It seems exactly like the wost kid of banana-republic dictatorship.
Why aren't the State gov and feds already arresting and firing the city morons who are blatantly acting illegally?
I understood that the constitution was the highest authority? Surely if a citizen gets caught by this camera they can just ignore it and sue the police and city for illegal arrest or whatever and automatically win in any court?
I've seen many spectacular Slashdot screwups over the years, but this is a new one. Well done, guys!
The most rabid believers in American Exceptionalism are the exact same people whose policies are destroying it.
(Red light story) - PA already does it in many cities/villages. You are required to pay a $50 non-refundable 'administrative' fee in order to be able to present your case to a judge and the judge will usually give you a reduction on the fine even if you have a good case (cop always wins). Given that the fines are somewhere between $75 and $150, it's not even worth going in.
NY does it also in large cities. You don't even go to a judge anymore, you go to an administrator at the Traffic Violations Bureau who decides how much you have to pay, no plea bargaining, no judges.
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my brain booting into blinding, skull-rattling hangover mode
Did you have an oktoberfest party last night, too?
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Where in this country does someone have a right to a jury for a moving violation? Right to a jury is guaranteed only for criminal cases. Traffic infractions are not criminal infractions unless they rise to a misdemeanor level.
Why did http://yro.slashdot.org/story/09/09/24/238251/CA-City-Mulls-Evading-the-Law-On-Red-Light-Cameras come to this comment chain apparently about coding and Microsoft??
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Yep. Ultra-cool stuff. Designed the Cogent Research XTM workstation around it. 32 processors with a dynamically reconfigurable interconnect. Some of the most fun I ever had.
In my feed reader at the moment is a story titled 'Microsoft Releases Prototype of Research OS "Barrelfish"'. Following the link leads here, which is very noticeably not that story, which appears to be this instead. Presumably somewhere along the way that story got replaced with this story and the comments were kept (also the tags too it seems). As for exactly how this happened, I don't have a clue, but perhaps it has something to do with the aforementioned downtime (Slashdot was 503ing for a significant amount of time last night).
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Global Cooldown?
Maybe it's the large amount of caffeine I have in my system today but wth? Why is this news for nerds? Why should this matter to me? wtf is the point? More articles about tech such as SANs, Virtual Machines, Coding etc...etc... plz
Do development on the Inmos Transputer? Of course I did. I used to work for Inmos. Never a dull moment.
Evil people are out to get you.
Alarmist headline? Maybe?
"California City Mulls Evading the Law!"
So...there's apparently a law that "authorizes" cities to install red light cameras, and one city is thinking that's not the way to go. How is that "evading the law?"
TechDirt is running a piece on Microsoft's next-gen operating system projects Midori and Singularity, where officials are considering researchers released a prototype for another OS, code-named Barrelfish -- cutting the state and the county out of their portion of the take -- in order to increase an OS written specifically for multicore environments. The story was first reported a week ago. The majority of tickets are being (automatically) issued to improve the performance of boxes with such chips by creating a network bus, if you will, between cores, which studies have shown rarely contribute to an accident. TechDirt notes such systems tend to share resources like apparent unconstitutionality:
This just goes to show, you can't count on big companies to do what's right. If there were more freedom and openness, we'd be a lot better off. Between Microsoft's FUD and Apple's fanboys, it's a wonder anything gets done.
Hopefully, once people realize what's going on and the Pirate Party gains ground and push back the anti-evolution religious nuts, everything will be much better.
There, that should milk a few karma points no matter what Slashdot article this comment ends up under.
Is running red lights important to you?
To help kill off the douchbag antivirus vendors who are trying to use irrational fear sell Mac users antivirus tools they don't need.
There are all of two malicious trojans you can actually encounter (I tried to find one live on the web and could not), so Apple just added them both to the blacklist the looks at files you might download. Much like the antiphishing features of browsers, which only point out obvious risks to users as they wade through them.
"The problem here is that Corona is shredding the Sixth Amendment of the US Constitution, the right to a trial by jury. By reclassifying a moving violation... to an administrative violation... Corona is doing something really nefarious. In order to appeal an administrative citation you have to admit guilt, pay the full fine, and then apply for a hearing in front of an administrative official, not a judge in a court. T
Could someone send a copy of the applicable amendments and supporting court decisions to Washington State? Moving violations have been considered "administrative violations" here for years. WA state does things a little differently; they don't require you to admit guilt. Guilt has nothing to to with paying/not paying a fine. They also employ someone who is nominally a judge to handle contested violations. But at the outset of the "trial" they state that it is not a trail, rules of evidence do not apply including the municipalities need to prove a case. Other than the semantics, it sounds just like Corona's system.
Have gnu, will travel.
A better question is: Is not having to choose between getting a ticket or slamming on your breaks at a newly shortened yellow light cycle and being rear-ended really that important to you?
Or how about Is it really so important to you that the city/state (and by extension, insurance companies) raise more money that you are willing to take measures that have been shown to INCREASE the number of traffic accidents? Is it really worth it to burden people with hundreds and hundreds of dollars worth of tickets for maneuvers like "california stops" that have been shown to not actually impact safety?
Those seem like far better questions.
-Steve
"I opened my eyes, and everything went dark again"
view laws as a way of generating revenue (tax laws when they are not confiscatory and equally applied to all, being the exception), we are all doomed.
From your link:
The IBM PC came out in 1982, and was far and above anything Atari, Commodore, Radio Shack, TI, Sinclair, or anybody else had at the time. By the late '80s IBM microcomputers were about dead; they'd gone to OS2 since their BIOS had been reverse engineered and DOS ran on other brands. In the late '80s the 16 mz 386 was out, and IBM's computers (as well as Compaq and others) had it.
Apple's Macantosh came out before 1985, and it had a nice GUI interface. I remember drooling over one in a computer store. By 1987 when the Abaq came out the IBM PC had been superceeded by several models, including the XT and the AT.
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That's because the transputer was designed when that was the prevailing model of "parallel computing". That is, you can only talk to your neighbors, because the cpus are connected in a network. To talk to more remote notes, you either rewire the connections so that they become neighbors, or you route through your neighbors. This network of CPUs can be a systolic array, sort of a multi-dimension pipeline, or whatever configuration works for your problem. If you're often talking to a remote node, then it makes sense to rewire the connections or build a more complex switching network underneath the nodes.
The current notion that parallel computing is just a SMP with a lot of nodes, such as "cores" all sharing RAM, is not scalable. A bus model of connection with a transputer-like CPU would be interesting, but again you hit scaling problems and eventually you start adding in topologies.
SMP style computing is more of a large grained model, each node does a lot of work before having to share data; whereas the transputer style is fine grained, communicating with neighbors constantly. Similarly, the SMP nodes are usually complex superscalar processors, with lots of internal functional units exploiting parallelism internally, which the user has little control over; but the transputer is much simpler and so the parallelism occurs by having more processors, and the user has more control over how this happens. The main difference overall is that SMP is meant for general purpose computing and built with general purpose processors, whereas transputer was meant for explicitly parallel computing and they'd be wired together for specific problems.
Ummmm...... ok. Since when has a moving violation - a rolling stop - that's been around around since the stop light and stop sign were invented suddenly been classified as a "California stop". Talk about ego.
Well, that's odd.
But anyway, concerning Corona, CA, it should be noted that some blogger linked to by TechDirt is no better a legal scholar than... anyone else, apparently. There's no Sixth Amendment right to a jury trial to "shred" for traffic violations, or any misdemeanor involving less than six months or so of jail.
TFS notes that the politicians seem more annoyed that they are being cut out of the money, not how it affects the citizens.
They tried this in Springfield MO (sorry pay access to the local paper I read daily) http://pqasb.pqarchiver.com/news_leader/access/1691011761.html?FMT=ABS&date=Jan+13,+2009
They don't even have to prove that you were driving to be ticketed, just the owner is ticketed... So there goes old fashion habeas corpus out the door. There is no reasonable means of redress if there is any issue, since it is just an administrational issue, not a criminal one. They also claimed that it was for "safety", except that they put them on the intersections with the most traffic, not the most accidents per intersection, or accidents per unit of traffic.
If you could contest it like any other ticket in court, then it might stop being an illegal attack of a government on it's citizens.
I remember that back in 1986 - even the home computers at the time supporting 16-color video modes while the PC only had CGA. Several years later, computers like the Atari ST, Amiga, Archimedes, Next workstation all had GUI systems, while PC's were stuck with Windows 3.1, which was used most of the time to play solitaire or minesweeper.
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Also, I entirely agree that everyone does it. Coming to a complete stop is stupid and, frankly, less safe than the "rolling stop". Coming to a complete stop causes more traffic ripples via the brake jam effect and increases traffic density due to the fact that barely anyone can make it through the light.
"where officials are considering ignoring a California law that authorizes red-light cameras -- cutting the state and the county out of their portion of the take -- in order to increase the city's revenue."
If this doesn't convince you that it's NOT "all about safety" then I don't know what will...
"I bow to no man" - Riddick
You motherfucker.
I hadn't heard that word in my entire life, until last week when I looked it up after seeing it in an old computer's manual. Seriously, what are the odds?
Although Scott Adams would have me believe I hear it all the time and now I just tuned my mind to it.
Yeah. Would you choose a neurosurgeon who pokes around people's brains in his spare time? I wouldn't.
If you want to appeal ANY camera ticket in CA, you HAVE to pay bail in the amount of the ticket-BEFORE you go to court. Se either way they still have your $$.
The fact that the city of Corona is trying to cut the county and the state out of revenue is the real story here. Red lights come and go. But revenue wars such as this are pretty interesting.
The only question in my mind left is whether they are following the 3-second rule on yellow lights.
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The problem here is that Corona is shredding the Sixth Amendment of the US Constitution, the right to a trial by jury. By reclassifying a moving violation... to an administrative violation... Corona is doing something really nefarious.
I know it varies from jurisdiction to jurisdiction, but at least here in Atlanta and all surrounding areas, this holds true of pretty much any traffic violation as far as I know. I have tried to get a trial by jury several times when I felt my case was such utter BS that no twelve sane people would bother with it -- only to be told that I can't do that because it's not a criminal matter, it's an "administrative infraction". Every single time.
It's convenient how they can just make up this random nonsense to avoid allowing you to exercise your rights, but I'm sure part of the reason is because they know that so many traffic violations are utter BS that they'd lose cases in huge numbers if normal people had any say in it -- unlike the current system where simply being charged (getting a ticket) is enough to presume your guilt.
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Those are your two choices at each intersection? A ticket or getting rear-ended? Must suck to be you.
You may want to review your driving skills, maybe take some classes.
Administrative or judicial, a "California stop" is called a "California" stop because... it's not a stop. If you follow (a quite reasonable) law, then there's no problem. Most countries you cannot turn on a red light at all, some you can only turn on a red light if there is a flashing orange light nearby, or some other indication that you can turn on a red. It's like speed cameras. Everyone hates them, and if you're caught, you whine, but at the end of the day, you broke a clear and long-standing law, and you have to accept the consequences.
The patriotic thing to do here is; when you are sent the ticket for the picture of your "crime", you are asked to send in your sin tax. Just take a picture of the amount and send it to them. It is just and fitting for their crime.
Everyday I see a world more and more ready to revolt and overthrow every government. It should happen.
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You may want to review your driving skills, maybe take some classes.
This is like the new "If you have nothing to hide" mantra. So it's now "If you obey the laws, you won't get a ticket" as a sidestep of the topic if the law is right or not.
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Cities in Texas and other states have been trying to get Red Light offenses to Administrative to usher the cashflow rather than have points deducted from a license. That way nobody will want to .. $4M over two years in one area.. http://www.wjla.com/news/stories/0909/659937.html
appeal the case rather than just pay the fine. It's wrong and if you look at how much speeding cameras are generating for Maryland
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