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LHC Knocked Out By Another Power Failure
known_ID writes "The Large Hadron Collider — the most puissant particle-punisher ever assembled by the human race — has suffered another major power failure, knocking not only the atom smasher itself but even its associated websites offline."
This is BBC news reporting live from LHC .... ~buzz~
first particle!
The power outage was my idea. You're welcome.
Luckily some other website managed to capture a video of the event from the webcam's: http://www.cyriak.co.uk/lhc/lhc-webcams.html
Thanks to the efforts of nameless heroes, the evil LHC has been foiled again, ensuring the survival of earth...
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Anyone remember this?
Have you ever tried to dab ointment on a swimming shark?!?! Noooooo. You haven't. The scale-rot around the laser mounting points was terrrible in the beginning, but that Safeway-Brand polysporin does the trick.
Nothing to see here.
The "uptime" on this collider is worse than an application server running on Windows 3.0!
We ourselves find it hard not to suspect the involvement of some pan-dimensional police force, seeking to prevent humanity acquiring parallel-universe portal capability before we're ready to use it responsibly.
I have devoted a large portion of my life to playing countless hours of Doom and Halflife, reading Kurt Vonnegut novels, and watching numerous reruns of Quantum Leap and Sliders... I think I'm "ready to use it"!
Oh, wait... "responsibly"... hmm...
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Does Europe not produce competent electrical engineers? I mean, their plugs are so superior...
"As God is my witness, I thought turkeys could fly." A. Carlson
"Diesels cut in OK" noted the controllers, adding that the Meyrin site is now drawing limited grid power from an alternative connection via the Prevessin site. The boffins don't anticipate resuming operations until at least 12:00 local time today.
So it was just a temporary glitch. Move along people, nothing to see here...
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Hivemind harvest in progress..
Interfering with our research. I say we go and kick thei
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Following 1912, we learned how to properly top "water-tight" containers on ships (Titanic)
In 1940 we took bridge building back to the drawing board (Tacoma Narrows Bridge)
In 1996 we slapped a mathematician for not properly handling floating point decimals - it only cost $6M (Ariane 5)
We learned so much from these things and it was bound to happen with the LHC as well. I mean, c'mon! It only cost ... hmm ... how much did it cost. Let me see here (Checks Popular Science) ... $6 BILLION! WTF?! Forget what I said, get a rope!
L'esperienza de questa dolce vita (The experience of this sweet life) - Dante Alighieri, The Divine Comedy
There is a frantic search on to find out who was microwaving popcorn in the break room when this occurred.
and stay the hell off Europa (in other words, Get off my lawn).
I'm not sure how much the LHC has actually ended up costing.
I don't know if it's possible to prove this time-travelling higgs theory without attempting to build several more LHC scale colliders.
But if it's true, the cost has/will have been worth it. Maybe it's not in the list of breakthrough discoveries we were hoping for, but wouldn't it be mind-bogglingly amazing anyway? I don't think pure science gets much better.
Maybe it's just me - but it's like the U.S. media when all we see are 'LHC fails this, LHC fails that', not even newsworthy here. A town without power is a bigger deal than this but we don't spam /. about it...
Anyone know what that fried out component is in the picture on TFA?
News of the outage emerged when keen amateur LHC-watchers
I haven't noticed anything particular on my watch (more than 100 refreshes since this morning) ...
http://hasthelargehadroncolliderdestroyedtheworldyet.com/
Stupid black holes are now being emitted and going into power plants. Thank God that it was done in an area that believes in science. Here in the states, we would have a large group (republicans) screaming that it goes against God and we are not suppose to find out nature's secrets (unless it can be turned into a new WMD as laid out by the bible ) and a very small group of ppl screaming that it is destroying the environment (extremist greenies).
I prefer the "u" in honour as it seems to be missing these days.
Was it another bird with a bagel crumb?
The first 6 billion dollars doesn't include bagel protection. That is an additional 6 billion.
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It's in TFA
he said it was not his fault.
alias possession='chmod 666 satan && ls
he needed a replacement miniature black hole for his suitcase-time-machine
which flashed over. They don't actually what the bushing is ATTACHED to, which could be almost anything. Such bushings are the standard terminal connections on HV switchgear such as transformers, capacitors, reclosers, etc. The bushing itself is most likely replaceable individually, though.
Hopefully, it just flashed over from foreign debris (another baguette?), and did little damage except to itself. Such a flashover should have tripped upstream circuit breakers, resulting in the power outage.
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Oops!
I hope there's a Scottish man screaming "WE NEED MORE POWER CAPTAIN!"
http://maps.google.com/maps?&q=higgs+boson
Does this mean I get $6 billion?
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the web site information about the Large Hadron Collider had disappeared, they said "What Large Hadron Collider?" Jump into there new Ferrari and sped off to the airport.
The Kruger Dunning explains most post on
Now, if it was Google running it, they would just have said it was a beta and not a big deal.
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This is what happens when you send scientists and academics to do the work experienced engineers should be doing.
Academics don't even see failure like this as a bad thing. It's an interesting point of study, which may help them learn, etc.. Engineers just want to make shit work, so they overengineer the parts that make them nervous, do component testing ahead of time, and generally make things happen.
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'Cause Your Crystal Bal Ain't So Crystal Clear
So While You Sit Back And Wonder Why I Got This Fuckin' Thorn In My Side
Oh My God It's A Mirage
I'm Tellin' Y'all It's Sabotage
So many people want the LHC to fail or stop so it won't "destroy the world, hur hur hur" so is it possible someone has been sabotaging it from the inside or even outside?
Remember, Slashdot does not have a -1 disagree moderation, and no, troll, flamebait, and overrated are not substitutes.
So its us v. the future. And we ARE gonna win. Spent too much on the LHC. Too big to fail. Failure is not an option. Damn!
A man spends the first half of his life accumulating stuff, the second trying to get rid of it all.
Is that actually they still have to rely on backup Diesels. It takes technology over 100 years old to keep the LHC running in a power outage. Schroedinger did his best work over 80 years ago. The Manhattan project was successful over 60 years ago. Yet we still have to rely on lumps of metal being banged around by crude chemical combustion to provide backup power for cutting edge research.
From scarped cliff or quarried stone she cries "A thousand types are gone, I care for nothing, no not one."
Have you ever tried to dab ointment on a swimming shark?!?! Noooooo. You haven't. The scale-rot around the laser mounting points was terrrible in the beginning, but that Safeway-Brand polysporin does the trick.
Sharks do not have scales.
Sharks have dermal denticles - teeth embedded in their skin.
Who cares, dude? Shakespeare made up hundreds of words. English is a living language -- if people weren't allowed to make up words we would have nothing to call that machine you are using to post this inane crap, nor for the medium by which we are all disgraced by your brain vomit.
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Say snotty engineers that cant do shit right
Hey, the damage was on a surface electricity line. Which was most likely installed by the power company running that part of the grid. I am sure no scientist bothered to work on it.
HI O WISE PRINCE. WHT TOOK U SO DAM LONG?
the same stupid meme that comes up everytime the LHC runs into a problem? Why gee, no, I don't remember that meme that morons like you post every other month.
Ok!
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Build a man a fire, he's warm for one night. Set him on fire, and he's warm for the rest of his life.
This just in.... LHC had an abrupt power failure.
Our field reporter at CERN is providing his update..... "Well at first we thought we had yet another problem with the LHC." reports a source who wishes to be anonymous. "Well, we are now pretty sure it was just Ed. Ed comes in on Wednesdays to clean up in the Lab. Soon as he plugged in that damn hoover all the breakers tripped."
So there you have it, a hoover and $39.95 breaker brought it all the a halt today. :)
"Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy - Benjamin Franklin"
The LHC is on. It's off. It's on and off and on and off...maybe it's Schrodinger's LHC.
OMG a scientist farted and the LHC died, again.
Tell me when it actually does something interesting, like, say, particle collision.
$6 billion and it's accomplished precisely nothing but break the record for biggest waste of energy and the most fragile machine ever built.
I'd just like to warn people from posting:
Scotty, I need more power!
style jokes here, I'm just quoting, not actually making the joke itself...
On y va, qui mal y pense!
all *I* got was the mission to go back to 1967 and stop disco from happening.
Without disco, there would be no house music, which means no acid house, which means no trance. What kind of music is played on dance floors in your time period?
I have to wonder, is it better that these glitches and outages are happening now rather than later?
What would happen if the LHC gets up to full capacity, THEN has a system-killing power outage? Does the LHC shut down gracefully, or could it be a disaster waiting to happen?
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This is just a continuation of the reverse time-wave resistance to the creation of the utterly abhorrent Higg's Boson, and proof that they're getting closer to creating one!
Think of all the movie plots that this thing is generating. Soon we'll be enjoying such films as:
Attack of the Bagle Birds.
Revenge of the Bagle Birds.
Bagle Birds do Dallas.
The sound of Bagle Birds.
The Bagle Birds of Madison County.
Power Rangers: Bagle Bird Transformations.
Sailor Bagle Bird.
White Christmas.
Who would win this election: Andrew Weiner vs Andrew Weiner's weiner.
I just tried to create a particle accelerator in my garage out of some Pringles cans and duct tape, and I totally failed to create a Higgs boson. Stupid Higgs boson sent a ripple back in time to make sure my Pringles-can collider failed.
Ya, that intellectual giant and paragon of virtue Nancy Pelosi's book is just so much better.
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MABASPLOOM!
At the end of TFA, they mention of course that idiotic "back in time" theory about the particles. Instead they counter with something that it is sadly actualy more logical:
We ourselves find it hard not to suspect the involvement of some pan-dimensional police force, seeking to prevent humanity acquiring parallel-universe portal capability before we're ready to use it responsibly
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To the poster who made this comment:
Patience
Yea let's hope the science will begin in January/February like YOU claim. Though the people who run LHC said late 2010.
I do not support "The Man". I also do not support your irrational stupidity
When I was in Italy, a bolt of lightning followed by the rumble of thunder and sure and poo the lights were out. I remember the last day as a gamer. I was playing Final Fantasy 8 and running around building my character for 8 hours. My only bad was not saving during that time and BOOM the power is out. A storm some 25 miles away knocked out the power. Have not finished that game. Maybe the designers should take that into consideration and build some good power and get it to work and that way Europe can follow suit.
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A little planning goes a long way...
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Why don't the scientists modify the phase variance or reverse the polarity? It seems to work every time something goes wrong in Star Trek......
"There is a theory which states that if ever anyone discovers exactly what the Universe is for and why it is here, it will instantly disappear and be replaced by something even more bizarre and inexplicable.
There is another theory which states that this has already happened."
I'm sure this series of events is god's way of telling us to stop using the LHC before it's too late, and we're all destroyed!
http://lhc-machine-outreach.web.cern.ch/lhc-machine-outreach/faq/lhc-energy-consumption.htm
Uninterruptible power supply?
What's the symbology of that? :/
"just 1.9 degrees above absolute zero - colder than deep space."
This statement is completely false and meaningless. Deep space is EMPTY and thus DOES NOT HAVE A TEMPERATURE. Yes, 1.9 K is cold, but it has nothing to do with space.
-1 disagree is not a modifier for a reason. -1 troll, flaimbait, redundant, overrated are NOT acceptable substitutes.
I'm SURE Kirk and Spock are behind this. They did an 'ok' job, but to really get things undone right they need to bring Scotty with them next time!
I would also submit to you horrible words from commercials, such as:
Breakation
Frugalista
Dollar Menunairre
Rockstaring
The examples are endless, but these are some of the more egregious offenders.
I stored all my Global Warming data on the website...I can't find it now. What will I do now? I know, I'll just make it up!!
Signed,
Al Gore and friends.
Careful now, that line of thinking is how we ended up with words like:
Hey hey... no need for profanity.
Posts not to be taken literally. Almost everything is sarcasm.
... who is the wise guy who screwed in an incandescent bulb?
Have gnu, will travel.
Don't you see?
We ARE the future.
Just not yet.
No brain, no pain.
By leveraging our mindshare in a proactive, streamlined manner we have been able to shift the paradigm of the English language, allowing for closure for hyper-conservative linguists. Ballmer metrics.
Now that I think about it, I'm pretty sure everything I just said is completely wrong.
Before you make a comment like that you should compare the LHC performance to the restart of the Tevatron at Fermilab (and this was a restart not a new accelerator!). Having been there when it was happening the number of power cuts was far in excess of what the LHC has experienced so far. Indeed at one point the power cut out about twice a week which was far more of a problem for the Tevatron since it took almost a day to make enough antiprotons.
i mean, how hard can it be to run a large hadron collider anyways? like changing the oil in your car! sheesh
intellectual property law is philosophically incoherent. it is your moral duty to ignore it or sabotage it
I live nearby and there was no powedhcpcd: eth0: carrier lost
Or, it's a SIGN!
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In all seriousness though, I'm a Goddamn Atheist, and *still* this whole thing reminds me of the scene in Bruce Almighty where he's asking God "please send me a sign" as he follows a construction truck full of "STOP" "BRIDGE OUT AHEAD" signs, and winds up crashing.
I think that's how we ended up with the entire language, actually. I don't recall a Divine Dictionary in the Garden of Eden... or one assembled from DNA.
Too big to fail? Does that make me to small to succeed?
There's something poisson -y going on here...
If you can read this, I forgot to post anonymously.
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"Sure. The stock price fell because he Ballmerized the company."
Come on, you forgot Synergy and derivatives Synergies and Synergistic
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"I don't recall a Divine Dictionary in the Garden of Eden... or one assembled from DNA."
Noam Chomsky cries!
You are not a brain: http://books.google.com/books?id=2oV61CeDx-YC
WHAT?
What is so wrong with closure? That is a perfectly decent word. Even Streamline is nice.
Certainly agree with the others though. They should be removed from the page and folded in to a nanoplane.
Woops, made a new word.
CAPTCHA: deaden, another you could add to the list.
This LHC cant seem to catch a break - magnets, bird sh$$ , power, .. what next - H1 N1 ??
Obviously the fabric of the universe is rebelling at having its insides peeked into. Something to do with violating relativity...
It was a croissant this time.
My UID is prime. Hah!
and its lame cousin; gestalt.
The "uptime" on this collider is worse than an application server running on Windows ME!
FTFY.
This delay, like all the others, as well as the delays to come maintain the actual start date at December 12 2012.
All hail the creation of the Illudium Q-36 Explosive Space Modulator, immediately followed by an earth shattering KABOOM!
Ward
. Silence! Be thankful thy species is unpalatable! .
Its his blog, if you don't like it piss off :)
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Obviously the LHC's purpose is to open a portal through spacetime so that Hitlar can be picked up, cloned a billion times then the clone army sent back to zerg-rush Moscow. Wake up, people, the truth is right in front of you!
They whose government reduces their essential liberties for temporary security, receive neither liberty nor security.
I love how problems are reported almost instantly, but anything interesting and successful like first beams, first splash, or first collisions, takes a day. Or two.
I wonder if we will learn new physics by comparing the speed of bad news and good news. I think pointing-and-laughing might even be superluminal.
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WTF is wrong with you people?
Hey, he didn't say there was no divine syntax!
You completely and utterly miss my point, which is that despite all the research into particle physics, nuclear energy and associated technologies, we are still unable to produce in volume a reliable, packaged, nuclear powered standby generator (despite proposed designs by e.g. Toshiba.) We are currently in the absurd position that when the oil runs out we won't be able to do advanced particle physics. If that doesn't suggest to you that we have been fricking around when we should have been working on better reactors, you are an even bigger numskull than your post suggests.
From scarped cliff or quarried stone she cries "A thousand types are gone, I care for nothing, no not one."
Um. It's the UK that has superior plugs. If only they'd had the common sense to build the damned thing in Scotland like I told them, it wouldn't keep having all these failures.
The problem with Scotland is that you'd have the locals constantly attacking all the scientists and giving them a damn good kickin'.
OTOH, we could hope for an ideal solution, where a black hole is formed, but then evaporates just after it has consumed the matter in a sphere extending to Hadrian's wall.
The boffins don't anticipate resuming operations until at least 18:30 local time today
Please don't call workers at CERN (or anyone for that matter) "boffins".. Unless you are a writer in the 1930s working on a Beano comic you have no right to use the words "boffin", "toff", or "boner" (at least not to describe a joke).
// MD_Update(&m,buf,j);
Would a nanosized charged spinning toroidal black hole evaporate?
you missed a line
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This reminds me of that Rihanna song:
We're still here. That means it was the other universe that bit it.
i'd hit it so hard, if you pulled me out you'd be the king of britain [bash.org]
You know, you can just say "powerful" and get the same alliterative effect...
Hey, “closure” is a programming concept.
Any sufficiently advanced intelligence is indistinguishable from stupidity.