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New Phone Allows Bosses To Snoop On Staff

tad001 writes "The Japanese phone giant KDDI has developed a way to track users' movements in fine detail. It works by analyzing the movement of accelerometers, found in many handsets. Activities such as walking, climbing stairs, or even cleaning can be identified, the researchers say. The company plans to sell the service to clients such as managers, foremen, and employment agencies."

143 comments

  1. It works by MyLongNickName · · Score: 4, Funny

    My boss just came into my office and told me to get the hell off of Slashdot and get back to work!

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    1. Re:It works by MyLongNickName · · Score: 1

      Oh yea? My boss just busted into the bathroom stall and told me to stop wanking!

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    2. Re:It works by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I thought this required a series of repetitive motions to work...

      You know what - never mind.

    3. Re:It works by Brian+Gordon · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Next will probably be an application that records audio from the cell phone microphone and tells what you're typing from the sound of the keys. Or even what you're seeing on the screen.

    4. Re:It works by Z00L00K · · Score: 2, Funny

      That's a severe invasion of privacy - have you discussed it with your union representative?

      It's baffling how much control that some people seems to want to have over their peers.

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    5. Re:It works by TheVelvetFlamebait · · Score: 3, Funny

      What? How can it do that? Unless wanking creates extreme readings on the accelerometer, I don't see how...

      ... oh wait, I get it. That doesn't so much make you a wanker, as it does a technophile.

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    6. Re:It works by davester666 · · Score: 1

      Have you not seen some of the attachments/holders you can get for iPhones? You're either wanking or you've thrown the phone into a can in a paint-can-shaking machine...

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    7. Re:It works by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      But my code's compiling! http://xkcd.com/303/

    8. Re:It works by pipatron · · Score: 1

      That reply might have been more funny if you had remembered to tick the "[ ] Post Anonymously" box.

      Replying to your own joke just makes you look like a pathetic looney, sorry.

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    9. Re:It works by mandelbr0t · · Score: 1

      That's not even funny!

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    10. Re:It works by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Cant do it. I am fired before entering union office to join.

    11. Re:It works by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Over their pee, you mean?

    12. Re:It works by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's not even funny!

      Then it's just like every fucking joke that ever gets posted here on Slashdot but somehow gets modded +5 Funny.

    13. Re:It works by Opportunist · · Score: 5, Funny

      Damn straight! You will pry my cock from my cold, dead hands!

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    14. Re:It works by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      My code has been compiling for the last two hours. Over and over and over, just to make sure it REALLY works and compiles fine!

      Hey, if other people may repeat the same actions over and over on their computer, hoping that something magically works the second time after it failed to work the first time, so may I!

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    15. Re:It works by sjames · · Score: 2, Funny

      If they turn on the microphone, you've got them. Then, when you're sure they're listening, have a conversation all about the horrific and eventually fatal torture you'd inflict on the managers if you ever got fired or found out they were spying on you. Just act out your own part and the voice of some horrified other person.

      Then, they're stuck.

    16. Re:It works by ArsenneLupin · · Score: 2, Funny

      Damn straight! You will pry my cock from my cold, dead hands!

      Don't worry. What is a straight going to do with somebody else's cock?

    17. Re:It works by tftp · · Score: 2, Funny

      What is a straight going to do with somebody else's cock?

      There is an obvious, logical answer to that, but of course a Slashdot geek male would never figure it out :-)

    18. Re:It works by BrokenHalo · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Next will probably be an application that records audio from the cell phone microphone...

      I guess that would be doable pretty easily with current technology. It's called a bug. Supposedly not legal without a warrant and all that.

      I have been offered company phones at several jobs, and I always turn them down. I would rather pay for my own phone, and retain control over when (or if) I answer it. I have friends who have been carpeted by the boss for not answering their phones when they were in the loo. I would rather be able to tell them to get fucked if I were put in that position.

      Well, maybe I wouldn't be so unprofessional as to tell them to get fucked. They could go get professionally fucked...

    19. Re:It works by BrokenHalo · · Score: 2, Informative

      My code has been compiling for the last two hours.

      Back in the day when I first got into programming, it was not uncommon for compiles to run for 10 hours or more. I sometimes used to take a sleeping-bag into the machine-room with me. If the compile bailed, I would be woken up by the clatter of the core dump being output to a 1600 line/min barrel printer.

    20. Re:It works by timmarhy · · Score: 0

      why involve a union, can't fight your own battles?

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    21. Re:It works by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ahh yes the ever popular awkward statement of ones own sexuality towards a statement not directed to them. Good times, good times....

      -MDF

    22. Re:It works by fredrik70 · · Score: 1

      uuum, girls can be straight as well, you know... heard about them? girls? no?

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    23. Re:It works by Genda · · Score: 1

      What part of "It's Slashdot"...

    24. Re:It works by ultranova · · Score: 2, Insightful

      why involve a union, can't fight your own battles?

      When fighting against someone far more powerful than you, bring your friends. It's just plain common sense.

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    25. Re:It works by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why, cook it for supper, like any other chicken.

    26. Re:It works by fredrik70 · · Score: 1

      I know, I know...I should know better... *holds up hands*

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    27. Re:It works by AlecC · · Score: 2, Informative

      Back in the day when I first got into programming, it was not uncommon for compiles to run for 10 hours or more.

      Back in the day? It takes the hardware engineers round here 22 hours to compile their device. If you find a bug in the hardware, come back tomorrow. If the compiler doesn't crash running on a machine with a mere 12Gb of memory,

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    28. Re:It works by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My code has been compiling for the last two hours.

      So your a Gentoo dev? don't worry it'll be done in a few more days.

    29. Re:It works by GameboyRMH · · Score: 1

      Ohhhhhhhh it took me a long time but I figured it out.

      You know, expecting a Slashdot geek male to share his hard-won woman is like expecting a hobo to share his Thunderbird and squirrel-kabob.

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    30. Re:It works by GameboyRMH · · Score: 1

      Mod parent Insightful.

      And to the GP:

      "Why involve a lobbyist, can't fight your own battles?"

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    31. Re:It works by Golddess · · Score: 1

      Then you get thrown in jail for threatening the life of another person, unless you hire a really expensive lawyer who can prove that you were simply exercising your first amendment rights and had no intention to follow through with your "plans".

      FTFY

      And yes I know you were making a joke.

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    32. Re:It works by sjames · · Score: 1

      Actually, you couldn't get thrown into jail. You were just trying out an idea for a play (that explains why you were acting both parts, do the other person's voice for the police). You can hardly be blamed for wanting to do get away from the sort of employer who spies on their employees.

      Then you sue. An employer spying on their employees like that should generate near instant hatred amongst a jury. They'll desperately want to punish the employer from the very start of the trial.

    33. Re:It works by BrokenHalo · · Score: 1

      ...If the compiler doesn't crash running on a machine with a mere 12Gb of memory

      Well, we managed to do quite a lot with our combination of FORTRAN, COBOL and Assembler. That "mainframe" machine had only about 120K of usable memory, but we really made it sweat. There used to be a utility (since the Burroughs machines of the day were designed to have every CPU millisecond charged out to customers) to audit CPU usage. If it fell much below 80% for any significant period of time, the operators were carpeted.

      Nowadays nobody cares much if a machine is idle for a few seconds (especially since operators no longer exist), but when you are drawing enough power to dim the streetlights it really makes a difference.

    34. Re:It works by Golddess · · Score: 1

      You were just trying out an idea for a play

      I think you missed the part about hiring an expensive lawyer to combat your employers expensive lawyers in order to prove that is what was happening :P

      But maybe I'm just being pessimistic.

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    35. Re:It works by sjames · · Score: 1

      Their expensive lawyer has nothing to do with you going to jail or not, only the DA would and it's not a strong case. Their lawyer WILL advise them that testifying on the public record that they spy on employees might not be a great idea. Their PR people will fully agree.

      Their expensive lawyer might also advise them that they would be smart to settle with you ASAP rather than telling a jury that they spy on people (especially if the 'play' took place in the bathroom or if in your inevitable interview w/ the press you mentioned bathroom anywhere), that's just creepy. That could also lead to a raft of follow-on sexual harassment suits.

      A case like that would have enough gonzo to it that it would be widely reported (making the management look like creepy perverts) if they did anything at all except tell the police that they must have been mistaken and then promptly pay you for silence.

      They could make things bad for you, but only if they were fully prepared to self-destruct in the process.

      Meanwhile, they would likely have to give up on listening in on employees since everyone will apparently develop an interest in plays.

  2. If I suspected my boss issued such a phone by yuri+benjamin · · Score: 1

    I would have it turned off most of the time.

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    1. Re:If I suspected my boss issued such a phone by cbiltcliffe · · Score: 2, Funny

      I'd do shit like holding it, and moving it back and forth while climbing the stairs. Then they'd be wondering "Why the hell is this guy always vacuuming the stairs?"

      Either that, or I'd be constantly shaking it, and doing weird shit with it, just to screw up their tracking....

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    2. Re:If I suspected my boss issued such a phone by Barny · · Score: 4, Funny

      Think of 2 stepper motors hooked up with USB and a small gyroscope cradle for the phone. Lego mindstorms should have something that will fit the bill.

      "Sir, employee 3392 is doing barrel rolls again!"

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    3. Re:If I suspected my boss issued such a phone by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nope, if your moving it back and forth your boss would think your always wanking

    4. Re:If I suspected my boss issued such a phone by sjames · · Score: 4, Funny

      Attach to a drill and give it a spin. Tell them you had a bit of trouble on your way in to work. Let them rack their brains figuring out what happened.

    5. Re:If I suspected my boss issued such a phone by ArsenneLupin · · Score: 1

      I would have it turned off most of the time.

      But what if it's an iPhone?

    6. Re:If I suspected my boss issued such a phone by flyingfsck · · Score: 1

      Just leave it at your desk plugged into a charger 24/7 and use another phone.

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    7. Re:If I suspected my boss issued such a phone by clarkkent09 · · Score: 5, Funny

      Attach it to a long string and throw it out of the window of a very tall building sometimes. After you got them curious, leave a spiderman costume on the floor of your cubicle and when your boss walks by quickly kick it under the desk.

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    8. Re:If I suspected my boss issued such a phone by danielsfca2 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      With a name like "clarkkent09" i'm surprised you didn't at least pick a DC superhero to use for that joke, but it was hilarious nonetheless. Too bad I don't have mod points.

    9. Re:If I suspected my boss issued such a phone by chewthreetimes · · Score: 1

      Yeah, for the first couple weeks anyway. After that you'd settle into a trackable pattern.

    10. Re:If I suspected my boss issued such a phone by Tarlus · · Score: 1

      I'd throw the thing in a dryer. Not just as an act of rebellion, but to confuse the hell out of them.

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    11. Re:If I suspected my boss issued such a phone by cbiltcliffe · · Score: 1

      Only if you're moving it too quickly.....

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    12. Re:If I suspected my boss issued such a phone by cbiltcliffe · · Score: 1

      Get a desktop centrifuge. As far as they're concerned, you'd be accelerating at 5 G while sitting still. :)

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    13. Re:If I suspected my boss issued such a phone by Barny · · Score: 1

      Hrmm, even better, just gaffer tape it to a wheel on your car, worst case you get to work and its still there, best case its... well, the accelerometer likely won't be the same again :)

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    14. Re:If I suspected my boss issued such a phone by HTH+NE1 · · Score: 1

      Either that, or I'd be constantly shaking it, and doing weird shit with it, just to screw up their tracking....

      Hmm, I wonder if there's an app for embedding an iPhone in a hackysack ball for keeping score.

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    15. Re:If I suspected my boss issued such a phone by Hurricane78 · · Score: 1

      He sits in a wheelchair, you insensitive clod!

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  3. Wow, a perfect match! by Statecraftsman · · Score: 4, Interesting

    While this sounds like a great idea, it's going to be quietly retired after someone manages to match up the boss's "cleaning" activities with those of anyone else in the company.

    "Wow, look how perfectly these accelerations overlay!"

    1. Re:Wow, a perfect match! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      but... this doesn't sound like a great idea.

    2. Re:Wow, a perfect match! by TheMidget · · Score: 4, Funny
      Actually happened in my company. Two people were working late, and hmmm, given that they were the only two left in the company at that time of the day, decided it was time to have a little bit of fun together.

      They carefully locked the office door, just in case, and let the hot and steamy action begin... completely ignoring the security camera from the parking lot that happened to point directly at their office window!

      Next time folks, not only lock the office door, but also close the blinds!

    3. Re:Wow, a perfect match! by houghi · · Score: 2, Insightful

      And learn where all the inside camera's are as well. However sometimes you might not know.

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    4. Re:Wow, a perfect match! by cerberusss · · Score: 4, Funny

      True story. My now retired dad had his own company, with about 120 employees. One night he was working late and when closing off, he found the head of the tech design department screwing the cleaning lady. My dad told him the conversation went like this:

      Cleaning lady: *moan*
      Manager: "Oh yeah!"
      Dad: *opens door*
      Dad: "Oh hi there!"
      Manager: "Get lost, Paul!!"
      Dad: *laughs* "Don't forget the lights when you're done!"

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    5. Re:Wow, a perfect match! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      And learn how to pluralize in the English language.

    6. Re:Wow, a perfect match! by Hurricane78 · · Score: 1

      Sorry, but a world in which that is going to get you into trouble, is a sick and disgusting world that I wouldn’t want to live in.

      If it would happen in my company, I’d be happy. I’d just tell them that if they have a relationship, and if that relationship is ending, then they can’t work in close proximity anymore.
      (I’d also leave it to them, what to do with the camera recordings.)

      I believe in relationships in a company. How are you going to be a team if you don’t like each other?
      This coldness and anonymity of large companies is just sickening.

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  4. link to article by gront · · Score: 5, Informative

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/8559683.stm is a link to the article, rather than just the BBC

  5. Unintended consequences by OnePumpChump · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Oh boy, so my boss can tell if I'm leaning or cleaning. I anticipate a spike in workplace injuries and stress related ailments and a general decline in the quality of the work of all manual laborers on whom this technology is used, unless and until managers learn how NOT to use it. Good thing so many states have at-will employment and so few such workers have unions or health insurance, or this could cost a FORTUNE when it hits the US.

    1. Re:Unintended consequences by physburn · · Score: 1
      There was a thread just today on Augmented Reality, the same tech that allow a phone to add location data to what you see, is the same tech that allows other people to watch where you are, and what you doing. Or course its in the hands of the nice Apple guys, how would never stop a user controlling modification to his own phone, oh whoops.

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    2. Re:Unintended consequences by daem0n1x · · Score: 1

      Fortunately this is completely illegal and unconstitutional round here. Have fun.

  6. Let 'em track it! by guygo · · Score: 1

    Strap the phone to a stray dog/cat/rat/monkey and let 'em follow that!

  7. fail by chibiace · · Score: 0

    i dont see this taking off, next.

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    1. Re:fail by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I would like to subscribe to your newsletter...

  8. In schools by aldld · · Score: 1

    Wait until they make one of these for schools to use to spy on kids in their homes...

  9. It broke again. by Zaphod-AVA · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The accelerometer clearly shows me working when this one fell too. I suppose you will have to assign me another one. Well, I'm a team player sir, you can just get me a cheap phone for work use since I seem to be so hard on them.

    1. Re:It broke again. by zappepcs · · Score: 2, Interesting

      And that is exactly what will happen. They are too easy to break, lose, steal, and then there is the forgot it at home, forgot to charge it, and myriad ways to defeat the system.

      A second thought: Do companies actually still pay for cell phones? Is that a perk I should be asking for?

    2. Re:It broke again. by Barny · · Score: 2, Interesting

      If its part of your job, then usually they do.

      For instance on-call workers typically need a particular phone to support their companies dispatch software. A lot of them just use i-Phones because, well, "there's an app for that".

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    3. Re:It broke again. by 0100010001010011 · · Score: 1

      I'm so glad when our company quit paying for ours. We were no longer 'on call'. If you couldn't reach us at our desk. SUCK IT.

    4. Re:It broke again. by the_xaqster · · Score: 2, Informative

      Wouldn't work for me. First time it breaks or is damaged, I get charged 50% of the "Unsubsidised" cost of the phone when issued (£250), then the subsequent times I get charged 100% (£500). The phones are replaced about every 3 -4 years, so in theory I could be charged from £250 to £500 for having a 4 year old phone break on me. This comes straight from my wages as a deduction on my payslip.

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    5. Re:It broke again. by daem0n1x · · Score: 1

      I have a very good way to defeat the system. It's called a constitution.

  10. My Boss would wonder if I was alive. by Master+Moose · · Score: 2, Funny

    My Phone always sits on my desk not moving much at all.

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  11. Dude... by LynnwoodRooster · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I am SO swinging that phone from the rooftop... Let them figure that one out! Or tossing it across the road to a friend on the other side. Yes boss, as a matter of fact I can fly!

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    1. Re:Dude... by DigiShaman · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Or you could just flush it. Think of all the turns and strange directions it will be reporting back. Just like the marketing dept...

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    2. Re:Dude... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes boss, as a matter of fact I can fly!

      ... through the microwave.

    3. Re:Dude... by vjoel · · Score: 1

      I am SO swinging that phone from the rooftop... Let them figure that one out! Or tossing it across the road to a friend on the other side. Yes boss, as a matter of fact I can fly!

      Centrifuge it, and tell your boss you'll finish that code module after you return from the space station.

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    4. Re:Dude... by oever · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Apple might already be using the accelerometer and gps, and in the future thermometer and gas analyzer, to determine what services you are likely to buy and what happened to the device that might void warranty.

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    5. Re:Dude... by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      I think there's a "you're in deep shit" joke in there somewhere, but I'm too tired to dig for it.

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    6. Re:Dude... by Jedi+Alec · · Score: 1

      Yes boss, as a matter of fact I can fly!

      Make sure the GPS puts you inside a phone booth just prior for added entertainment. Bonus points for matching the timeframe with babies being rescued from burning buildings.

      Now if only we still had phone booths...

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    7. Re:Dude... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yea dude, you can do that, when you get a job with a company phone.

    8. Re:Dude... by LynnwoodRooster · · Score: 1

      The gas analyzer doesn't scare me; I turn my cell phone off when I'm at any restaurant, including Mexican restaurants...

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    9. Re:Dude... by HTH+NE1 · · Score: 1

      Now if only we still had phone booths...

      There's a corner in my city with three of them in a row. Full booths too, not kiosks.

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  12. Pennsylvania school district by wisnoskij · · Score: 5, Funny

    The Pennsylvania school district announces that they plan to end their controversial laptop policy and give harmless cell phones to their students to make up for spying on them.

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    1. Re:Pennsylvania school district by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Please don't lump us all in with that school district.

    2. Re:Pennsylvania school district by mrmeval · · Score: 1

      So they've not convicted them of pedophilia and forced them out of a position of public trust and made them put signs in their yards.

      I'm disappointed.

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  13. It's only a matter of time... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    until we get the wonderful Dark Knight "sonar" technology.

  14. How about leaving it in a bag or on a bench by syousef · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Track that you nosey idiots. Unless they're going to stipulate that all employees must WEAR their phones.

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    1. Re:How about leaving it in a bag or on a bench by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      syousef, you are slashdot.

      congratulations.

    2. Re:How about leaving it in a bag or on a bench by amRadioHed · · Score: 3, Insightful

      If a company wants to track your every movement throughout the day, how hard is it to imagine they would also require you to wear the tracking device?

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    3. Re:How about leaving it in a bag or on a bench by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, unless you need to actually use your phone for work related communication... -_-

  15. Cheap Workaround: by pinkushun · · Score: 1

    Handle the phone like MJ handled babies, they wouldn't know WHAT to expect.

  16. There goes the neighbourhood by lul_wat · · Score: 0

    I'm working on something for exactly the same purpose as them .. now I don't know if to continue or scrap it.

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  17. I kinda wished I worked in a place with these. by Kenja · · Score: 1

    But only so I could tape it to a weasel and let it lose in the air ducts.

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    1. Re:I kinda wished I worked in a place with these. by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      Can't you at least use a skunk?

      But do it just before going home, and make sure you call in sick the next day. Else you'll call in sick the day after.

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  18. Whatever by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Bucking Shullfit.

  19. This is a good thing by aussie_a · · Score: 3, Insightful

    If my boss wants to buy this phone, great. They've just given me a big neon flashing sign warning me that they're a control freak. I can now either move to a different department or start looking for a new job.

    I'd rather have obvious signs I can't miss that my boss likes to create a hostile work environment, rather than subtle signs I might miss at first. The more blatant they are, the better.

    1. Re:This is a good thing by Floritard · · Score: 1

      Thank god there are so many other jobs out there right now so companies can't go around abusing their employees like this.

  20. Cue commercial by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Say you wanted scary, "big-brother" like powers to assist you with your micro-management.

    There's an app for that.

  21. Easy workaround by VincenzoRomano · · Score: 1

    Leave the phone on the desk: you don't need it in the toilet.

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    1. Re:Easy workaround by sjames · · Score: 2, Interesting

      If they do turn on the mike, the toilet is exactly where you want to take the phone. Especially after eating the mexican food with extra refried beans.

      If you play it up right, you could traumatize them for life.

  22. Livestock by Beelzebud · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Hell if you're going to treat us like livestock, just go all out! How about microchips and ear tags! Maybe the company logo branded on your body.

    If I had a boss that tried to make his workers use something like this, I'd quit my job.

    1. Re:Livestock by Mr.+Freeman · · Score: 1

      Happened already. There was a company a year or two back that required employees get an RFID chip implanted in order to continue working there. Forgot the name of the company, but I found the story here on slashdot.

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    2. Re:Livestock by Opportunist · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I'd wonder if they're still in business. People who are good at what they're doing tend to find jobs anywhere. People who're bad at what they're doing have to swallow whatever their boss subjects them to.

      Guess which group keeps a company afloat and which one sinks it.

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    3. Re:Livestock by RobertB-DC · · Score: 2, Informative

      I'd wonder if they're still in business. People who are good at what they're doing tend to find jobs anywhere. People who're bad at what they're doing have to swallow whatever their boss subjects them to.

      True, in general. But there's an interesting cautionary tale (by the guy who founded HowStuffWorks.com, oddly enough) that posits a corollary -- what if you were bad at doing something once, but an all-knowing never-forgetting system prevents you from *ever* putting it behind you?

      As these communication networks between all the different Manna systems built up, things started to get uncomfortable for every worker. For example, the Manna software in each store knew about employee performance in microscopic detail -- how often the employee was on time or early, how quickly the employee did tasks, how quickly the employee answered the phone and responded to email, how the customers rated the employee and so on. When an employee left a store and tried to get a new job somewhere else, any other Manna system could request the employee's performance record. If an employee had "issues" -- late, slow, disorganized, unkempt -- it became nearly impossible for that employee to get another job. Nearly every company with minimum wage employees used Manna software or something similar, and performance records on employees were a major commodity freely exchanged between corporations. A marginal employee got blacklisted in the system very quickly.

      - from Manna, by Marshall Brain

      Brain's dystopian vision (like most others) is full of glaring flaws -- he completely discounts the ability of people to drop "below the radar" -- but it's an interesting reference whenever another story comes out about how automation is making us "more productive".

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  23. Sounds ideal for man-down and the like... by Gordonjcp · · Score: 4, Insightful

    At the moment you can buy a horrifically expensive option board for some radios that does exactly this. That way you can tell if the HT that is supposed to be clipped to your security guard's belt as he walks around your bonded warehouse has suddenly gone horizontal. Another application is in shopping centres where it's pretty handy to be able to track where cleaners and security guards are - and have been in the past. Why? Nosiness? Spying? No.

    Mouth-breathing Chav Scum: "ZOMG I SLIPPED AND FELL OVER ON THAT DROPPED ICE CREAM CONE THERE! THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN CLEARED UP STRAIGHT AWAY! I'M GONNA SUUUUUUUUEEE!!!"

    You: "Well, let's see, the cleaner went past there three minutes ago, so it can't have been like that for long."

    MBCS: "But... But... Butt..."

    or alternatively:
    You: "Right, who's doing the guard tour, oh it's Wee Wullie. That's funny, he's been standing at the same bit for a couple of minutes now, moving around quite a lot though. Wonder if everything's okay?"

    <clicky on CCTV console>

    You: "Aha, righty. Let's send Big Davie down to give him some 'assistance' there..."

  24. Jailbreak it, sire. by William+Sullivan · · Score: 2, Informative

    There's an app for that. I mean, seriously. It's called demagnetizing the accelerometer. This basically allows it to either remain at zero, or points within 0 indicating little to no movement. Sort of like your typical EA programmer.

    1. Re:Jailbreak it, sire. by Mr.+Freeman · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Demagnetizing the accelerometer..... I'm not entirely sure you understand how these things work. Seriously, there's no magnets involved here.

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  25. response by commodoresloat · · Score: 3, Insightful

    No, that's all right, we'll just deduct the replacement cost from your pay. That will help teach you to be more responsible with company property.

    1. Re:response by toQDuj · · Score: 1

      *nod* I am in a place which requires you to write a humble letter of apology if you lose or misplace your access card.

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    2. Re:response by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

      No, that's all right, we'll just deduct the replacement cost from your pay. That will help teach you to be more responsible with company property.

      No, it'll teach the company about Wage & Labor laws, the hard way.

      It's illegal to require, ask, or even accept repayment from an employee for loss, damages, or theft of company products, resources, etc. You can write them up, fire them, file charges for theft, negligence, or intentional destruction, and try to get the money back that way, but you can't just dip into their checks.
      For example if you handle cash & it comes up short, they can NOT ask you to repay it or accept payment to avoid a write-up or termination. They can file charges if they can prove it was intentional, and in some cases also if they can show it was grossly negligent, but they can't take that money from your check without a court order.

    3. Re:response by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "well gee that's what happens when you treat someone like an animal for an extended time. he becomes one..and what do animals do when they're leashed for too long? they gnaw at it. anyway, sorry for the teethmarks, but since I'm an animal now, I can't really be held responsible for my behavior.

    4. Re:response by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm pretty sure that's illegal.

  26. Marketing fail by Opportunist · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Seriously, who's the marketing genius and why isn't he fired yet?

    Can't you forsee what's going to happen? Unions will be all over it, key employees will complain and go ballistic over it, threatening to quit if they're not let off the leash.

    Solution: Market it to overprotective parents. Kids have neither unions nor can they quit their parents.

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    1. Re:Marketing fail by MoeDumb · · Score: 0

      "The company plans to sell the service to clients such as managers, foremen, and employment agencies."

      Can governments be far behind?

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    2. Re:Marketing fail by Hurricane78 · · Score: 1

      Exactly. And teach them the most important lesson of our society nowadays: Be a total dick, terrorize even small children and take away everyone’s privacy... just because you can, or because you’re insane (what you call “overprotective”)!

      For a greater tomorrow! Yay!

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  27. Strap a ... by giorgist · · Score: 1

    1. Strap a vibrator onto the phone.
    2. Hang it on a pendulum and use a blutooth to use it.
    3. Leave it on a speaker
    4. Use an iPhone that doesn't parrallel process.

  28. A cat by Heytunk · · Score: 1

    I would tie it to my cat. Let them figure that one out.

  29. There are two kinds of employees by SmallFurryCreature · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Being a boss is easy, there are only two kind of employees. Lazy ones, who will slack of any chance they get and perform at best at a level just above firing, and good employees who take pride in their job.

    It will cost a fortune to turn a lazy one into a good one. It will save you money to turn a good one into a lazy one, in the short term. It is easy, just keep cutting benefits, breaks, perks and up the work load while micro-managing them to hell.

    But most managers/bosses feel they need to earn their keep by showing they are making the people work the hardest. If you spend the money of those kind of managers and their bag of tricks on salary, you would be able to hire the absolute best and have people fighting to stay with your company. Go ahead, offer a cleaner 50% above average wage. No problems filling vacancies, no need to watch their every move and you get motivated employees who got a reason not to exchange you the moment they a chance. Because even cleaning staff builds up a lot of knowledge you can't easily replace with the Xth temp because your turn-over rate is 100%.

    By all means, you go tech to try to manage those who can only earn the lowest wages, I pay a bit more and get the cream. In the end, I know who is more efficient.

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  30. Oh dear by bunkymag · · Score: 1, Funny

    That quickie in the work closet just got a lot harder.

  31. One small step for man... by presarioD · · Score: 1

    ...one great step for Big Brother...

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  32. I wonder... by BrokenHalo · · Score: 2, Funny

    I wonder how robust those accelerometers are. It occurs to me that it might be possible to permanently screw it up by bribing a construction worker to duct-tape your phone to his jack-hammer for a day...

    1. Re:I wonder... by daid303 · · Score: 1

      On the production end of the hammer would work wonders!

    2. Re:I wonder... by Barny · · Score: 1

      I wouldn't really call it production, the only end of the jack hammer that produces anything is the reciprocating motor (movement). I would refer to it more as "the business end" of the jack hammer :)

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  33. Why do you say I was not at work? by houghi · · Score: 1

    Sure I was at work, just track the phone and you will see that I was at my desk all day.

    And even more, I am sure TV shows like CSI will never be the same as people are proven to be at work all the time and thus could NEVER have been anywere else.

    Joking aside: I understand why they would do it. People who are snooped upon and treadend to be fired will be more productive. I know because I asked this at work and fired thee first person who did not answer the question to my liking. Although he was the first person anwering the questions in the group, he was also the only one. The rest of the people agreed with me.

    Management by terror: it is the only option!

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  34. Re:Dogs can fly too by dogugotw · · Score: 2, Interesting

    A few years back, the Iditarod added GPS trackers to some of the top drivers sleds so their position and speed could be displayed to users who subscribed to the 'Iditarod Insider' service. One of the guys wasn't too happy about this and gave his tracker to one of the supply aircraft...Lookie... is now going 150 mph, in the wrong direction, at 3000' agl...awesome dog team!

    Actually, the experiment went over really well with those who follow the race so this year everyone got a tracker. It's pretty cool to be able to see how everyone is doing in real time. The mushers don't have access to the data so they're still going cross country using old school technology (eyes and brain).

  35. Overly Paranoid, In My Experience by pandrijeczko · · Score: 3, Insightful

    As a Brit working for an American company, all I can say is that all my boss cares about is that he has a pretty graph at the end of each week, month & quarter that shows me and his other guys are utilised as highly as possible and making money for the company.

    He's a decent American bloke but constantly stressed out by the managers above him and I wouldn't do his job for all the tea in China (or coffee in Starbucks). Plus he doesn't have either the time or inclination to check up on me any more than he does currently (once a week at most).

    If you do work for a company that has managers needing to do this level of granular "surveillance" of staff then it's time to get another job - because if they're going to those depths then they're probably going to get rid of you anyway....

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  36. Could there be positive applications? by Bearhouse · · Score: 4, Interesting

    OK, I guess we're all against the potentially creepy applications of this.
    But could there be useful ones? Most people carry cell phones, could this be used to monitor people with known history of health problems, such as heart disease, or the elderly?
    If my cell phone detected that I'd just had a stroke, or that one of my parents had just had a fall, and was unconscious at the bottom of a staircase, and informed the emergency services, then that would be the kind of intrusion that I could accept.

    1. Re:Could there be positive applications? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      OK, I guess we're all against the potentially creepy applications of this.
      But could there be useful ones? Most people carry cell phones, could this be used to monitor people with known history of health problems, such as heart disease, or the elderly?
      If my cell phone detected that I'd just had a stroke, or that one of my parents had just had a fall, and was unconscious at the bottom of a staircase, and informed the emergency services, then that would be the kind of intrusion that I could accept.

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    2. Re:Could there be positive applications? by RMH101 · · Score: 1

      I can think of a couple of good uses:

      * Detect if suddenly dropped/gone horizontal and no further movement - e.g. a lone worker alarm, that flags if someone might have tripped or fainted etc
      * Detect if a driver has been driving for over x hours and suggest they pull in for a break
      * Track a security guard on his roudns so that if anything happens, they know where he is and where he's been - alternative to the manual punch-in waypoint stations they have in industrial settings
      * Use for automatic clock in/clock out so you get paid the hours you work
      * Locate someone in a building where everyone hotdesks
      * Automatically pay someone's mileage expenses based on their journeys in office hours

      there's a lot of scary uses, too, but it's not all bad.

    3. Re:Could there be positive applications? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But that comment assumes good faith on all parties involved! This is Slashdot, where you must be a petulant individualistic jerk.

  37. Does it detect playing golf? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Thought not - funny that.

  38. Good for Cleaning contractors - not so good for IT by ferrgle · · Score: 1

    I'm thinking that it would be hard to snoop on IT workers this way. Unless the phone is moving when it shouldn't.
    This is ideal though for cleaning contractors who need to make sure their cleaners are cleaning and not just leaving the vacuum cleaner on.

  39. Re:Traumatize by TaoPhoenix · · Score: 1
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  40. Time To Contact The Patents Office... by pandrijeczko · · Score: 4, Funny

    ...to patent my new design for the "Feline Cellphone Backpack"!

    Imagine this is your boss's office as he tracks you on his computer screen:

    "Okay, so he's just gone out through his kitchen door... he's climbing the fence into his neighbour's garden... now he's squatting down in their rose bed???"

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  41. GREAT! I should have read this earlier... by cephus440 · · Score: 2, Funny

    ... my boss just asked me how my interview went.

  42. If you don't trust your employee..... by EMR · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Then why did you hire them.

  43. This tech has existed for years by SiteLinker · · Score: 1

    Bil Keane has been using this on Billy since 1962!
    http://www.chamotlabs.com/Images/Paths.jpg

  44. This should be illegal by Hazelfield · · Score: 1

    Yes, I'm serious. I really do think "teh evil government" should poke their dirty fingers in the pie and make a law that forbids employers to monitor their employees in this way.

    Why? After all, we have a freedom of contract. If you don't want to work there, just don't take the job, right?

    Trouble is, after a while a significant share of all companies might require you to carry around a cellphone they can track. If you keep saying no to signing such contracts, your options will become more and more limited. In the end you might have no choice but to accept an unacceptable measure, or end up with no job at all.

    Just because it's voluntary doesn't mean you have a choice.

  45. This is easy... by Uncle+Robert · · Score: 1

    This is easy... Ship your phone to yourself everynight via fedex. Alternate between Fedex, UPS, USPS, and DHL. Post pictures of different women & children around your cube (diversity is important). Recharge your phone every day.