Sega To Bring Dreamcast Titles to PSN, Xbox Live

Sega announced yesterday that it plans to bring back a number of popular Dreamcast games, updating them and releasing them for download on the PlayStation Network and Xbox Live. Sonic Adventure and Crazy Taxi will come first, with further announcements expected after E3. "Both of the games will be based on the Dreamcast originals, but will be updated with high-definition graphics, surround sound, online leaderboards, and Achievement and Trophy support." Kotaku has a list of other titles they hope to see — what game(s) would you like Sega to bring back?

Comments

Yay!!!!

[rodrigoandrade]

May I be the first to say the Dreamcast was the console with the BEST ratio of AWESOME games to crappy ones. Crazy Taxi, Soul Calibur, Shenmue, F355 Challenge, Powerstone, to name a few.

It's a great day to be a PSN or XBL subscriber!! The value of a subscription just went up!!!

Re:Yay!!!!

[ActionDesignStudios]

I absolutely agree. I think bringing Dreamcast titles to XBLA/PSN is a fantastic idea. I would love to see the Power Stone series with online support. I would happily pay again for titles like Jet Grind Radio, Shenmue, et cetera.

Re:Yay!!!!

[Anonymous Coward]

That's only because of the Dreamcast's poor 3rd party support. No one wants to risk supporting a struggling console with a company bleeding money.

It does seem to have a high ratio of overrated games though, like Shenmue. People think Quake3 originated on the Dreamcast, too.

Re:Yay!!!!

[commodore64_love]

Nintendo 64's awesome-to-crap ratio was better. Mario, Banjo-Kazooie (twice), Zelda (twice), Goldeneye, Star Wars Racer, Fzero, Super Smash Bros, and on and on and on. IMHO. Of course if you go by sheer numbers, PS1 had the most good games.

I wonder if Sega will be porting games that were not already ported to PS2 or the Gamecube years ago. I've played both Sonic Adventure and Crazy Taxi to death. I'm kinda sick of them, and would like something new from Sega.

Re:Yay!!!!

[Hatta]

I love the Dreamcast as much as anyone, and I couldn't care less about this. Why? I still have mine.

I wish Sega would focus on putting out new games that are as good as the ones they made for the Dreamcast.

Re:Yay!!!!

[flimflammer]

Well it's nice people still have their Dreamcasts in working order. I unfortunately lost mine to a bad laser. It's still sitting in a box until I work up the heart to attempt to fix it.

Re:Yay!!!!

[Anonymous Coward]

I wish that Sega was still in the console business, because the quality of the games was higher
when it was Sega, Nintendo, and Sony slugging it out.

Re:Yay!!!!

[morari]

I still have on of my Dreamcasts hooked up in the living room. It may not get as much play as it used to, but it is easily my favorite all-around console ever.

Re:Yay!!!!

[TheRaven64]

I unfortunately lost mine to a bad laser.

Badly written battle bots are a problem around here too.

Re:Yay!!!!

[Anonymous Coward]

Interesting... I'll have to do some reasearch, I've never heard of Sega allowing legal distribution of their games..

From that site:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4RrlP_y7mo
Looks like we have something that superseded guitar hero by a few years.. Maraca hero anyone??

Re:Yay!!!!

[NetNed]

Powerstone is one that I can not believe hasn't made it over to another console for sure. Even though it characters were not as polished as other games (and didn't have sweet bouncing fun bags on lady characters like others!), it had the best game play of any fighter I think ever. The second edition was a little bit of a let down, but still the series had great potential that I don't think any other fighters has tapped in to. Capcom dropped the ball on it I think......

Re:Yay!!!!

[Anonymous Coward]

And you can legally download any game for it from here http://www.dcisozone.com/

What on earth makes you think that site is legal?

Re:Yay!!!!

[jalagl]

It is also out for the Wii. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lr5Npu9fjRw

We play it at family gatherings, it is pretty funny and even my parents love it.

Re:Yay!!!!

[Toonol]

My Dreamcast works flawlessly still. And you can legally download any game for it from here http://www.dcisozone.com/

Legally? Of course not.

Good site, though.

Re:Yay!!!!

[orthicviper]

ahh, online powerstone. there's an idea! i guess it's too late to revitalize the shenmue series, though.

Re:Yay!!!!

[VanGarrett]

Nintendo 64's awesome-to-crap ratio was better. Mario, Banjo-Kazooie (twice), Zelda (twice), Goldeneye, Star Wars Racer, Fzero, Super Smash Bros, and on and on and on.

Star Wars Episode I Racer? Are you serious? The game prominently featured flying vehicles, that, by some wild, drug-induced stretch of the imagination, slide when they encounter an ice patch! Just how does a vehicle powered by thrust, rather than friction, lose control on ice? The whole thing seems an incredible example of a generic game engine given custom graphics to match a franchise, and then pushed out the door.

Re:Yay!!!!

[centuren]

I love the Dreamcast as much as anyone, and I couldn't care less about this. Why? I still have mine.

Are they going to be in high definition? That could be a good reason to care.

Re:Yay!!!!

[Anonymous Coward]

The Dreamcast is already in HD, for certain values of HD (ie. 640x480@60hz)
Unless you have a gigantic TV, the originals are already at an impressive looking resolution.

Re:Yay!!!!

[Anonymous Coward]

480p is "HD" now?

More proof Dreamcast fans live in this strange world of delusion every day...

Re:Yay!!!!

[MobileTatsu-NJG]

Why is that 'legal'? Are you saying that site's getting permission to publish those games?

Re:Yay!!!!

[adolf]

That's all well and good. I like accurate simulations, too.

The more important question (which I can't answer because I've never played the game), however, is this: Is it fun?

For example: Ridge Racer on the PSX is also wildly inaccurate, but it's a blast to play once one gets past the lack of disturbingly-real physics, even today with its rather limited (but also very smooth) graphics.

As another example: If I really wanted disturbingly-real physics, I'd go hop into the BMW in the driveway and go for a drive. It's such a good simulation of real-world physics that repairs cost actual money, license suspensions are real, and actual people get hurt when one fucks up badly.

Re:Yay!!!!

[lmnfrs]

Yeah, but, with the memory expansion, the graphics were incredibler!

Re:Yay!!!!

[bemymonkey]

Who cares? That game was extremely fun nonetheless...

Re:Yay!!!!

[grumbel]

Everyone knows hoverboards don't work over water, same is likely true for hovering vehicles and frozen water.

Re:Yay!!!!

[drinkypoo]

I have reached the point where I cannot enjoy a racing game with shit physics. I never really liked them, which is probably why I could never get into ridge racer. Oh yeah, or the way you would just about come to a stop when you rode over the little bumper strip thing, that was just stupid. In order to use my reflexes the car has to behave the way it would really behave. Any Gran Turismo game, Forza 2 or 3, more recent NFS titles, these are all OK.

If you want disturbingly real-world physics, you could do it with a cheaper car, on a track. But if you'd like to leverage existing reflexes instead of having to invent new ones that might actually make you a worse driver, you should play games with a good physics model. Gran Turismo made me a better driver, but being a better driver makes me worse at games with poor physics.

Re:Yay!!!!

[Golddess]

Unless you've got power. And I'm fairly certain podracers have power. :P

Re:Yay!!!!

[BancBoy]

The Dreamcast is already in HD, for certain values of HD (ie. 640x480@60hz)

Actually, that's EDTV.

Re:Yay!!!!

[RocketRabbit]

You will get all those for free with your subscription?

I thought that one subscribed merely to have the privilege of later actually paying for games. Kind of when you go to the store and they charge you $15 to look around.

Re:Yay!!!!

[adolf]

Heh.

I hope you mean something other than GT 1 -- that game had such horrible physics, it was comical.

I had a cheesy Mitsubishi Galant with something north of 400HP. It was easy to drive -- just hit the corner (any corner) at full throttle, steer into it, and use the brake to put the car sideways while never, ever lifting the throttle (ever). No countersteering was needed as the car would correct itself neatly if the brake was released at the right point just before the exit of a turn.

It took awhile to get the suspension and gearing to be so fucked that this goofy driving style worked, but after that walking through the entire game and making massive amounts of cash was simple.

I don't think GT made me a better driver. :)

Re:Yay!!!!

[Keerok]

OHH, nice. Brings me back to Armada the game. You can play an online version of it now, called Armada online. Free, a bit too much grind, but good fun too www.armadaonline.com

"Updated"

[Pazy]

Apparently the "Update" for Crazy Taxi involves removing the original soundtrack, for me that separates it from the iconic memories I have of the game. This "Update" means that its not the game I remember playing as a kid so this "update" is not something im interested in. Though the idea of playing Dreamcast games on current consoles, if they arent "Updated" in a similar fashion them im totally in.

Re:"Updated"

[Anonymous Coward]

Source? Without the original music, Crazy Taxi is not worth my money. With it, it is a sure buy.

Re:"Updated"

[Pazy]

Apologies I forgot to mention that in the original post. I read it as a part of an IGN article. Source: http://uk.xboxlive.ign.com/articles/109/1096446p1.html

Re:"Updated"

[morari]

So then... no Offspring tracks? :(

Re:"Updated"

[WankersRevenge]

I see no mention of the soundtrack being removed in both the linked articles and the articles linked inside of them. I think you need to cite your resource.

Re:"Updated"

[centuren]

So then... no Offspring tracks? :(

Don't worry, you can still buy an offspring CD and play that one track on single repeat throughout the entire game.

Re:"Updated"

[log0n]

"What won't be there? The Offspring and Bad Religion. SEGA couldn't pull off the licensing, so it replaced the classic "Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah!" of the Offspring's "All I Want" with a random smattering of punk bands. It's a crushing disappointment for sure (more so than the loss of the Kentucky Fried Chicken and Pizza Hut licenses) and may be a deal-breaker for some. Crazy Taxi and the Offspring go together like Sex and the City. You could always turn down the music and put an Offspring album on your MP3 player of choice.

Despite the loss of its classic soundtrack, Crazy Taxi is still a lot of fun. I don't know that newer gamers will appreciate Crazy Taxi, but Dreamcast fans will want to at least give this a look. It brought back a lot of great memories for me. Now I need Chu Chu Rocket and life will be perfect."

Re:"Updated"

[Aug Leopold]

Of course, this isn't really news since the original soundtrack in Crazy Taxi was already scrapped back when when they did the ports for PC and PSP.

Re:"Updated"

[morari]

I already own all of The Offspring's CDs. That said however, there are about four or five of their songs in the game. They're mixed in with a few Bad Religion songs if I recall.

Re:"Updated"

[Anonymous Coward]

So then... no Offspring tracks? :(

In the words of the Crazy Taxi title screen, Ya ya ya ya ya. :-(

Soul Calibur

[ThoughtMonster]

n/t

Re:Soul Calibur

[Monkeedude1212]

I think the rehashes of Soul Calibur (What are they on, 4?) have been enough.

Re:Soul Calibur

[commodore64_love]

5 if you count the original Soul Blade/Edge game.

The justification for the constant upgrades was to get better graphics and play, as each version moved from 32 bit to 64 bit and so on, but consoles have now peaked (1920x1080 and million of colors), so there's no longer any reason to keep buying the same game over and over

Re:Soul Calibur

[Anonymous Coward]

The original SoulCalibur is already on Xbox Live Arcade, though the gutted the challenge mode, IIRC.

TSUBABABAAAA!!!!!!

[WillgasM]

I'm def in favor of Chu Chu Rocket.

Re:TSUBABABAAAA!!!!!!

[gilesjuk]

Yeah, that was great. But I think that would be better suited to the Wii.

Re:TSUBABABAAAA!!!!!!

[Rifter13]

Yep, I am all on board for Chu Chu Rocket. I know Sega said it was coming out on XBLA a while back, but I haven't heard anything. I did a quick search, and didn't find anything beyond comment for the original announcement.

I'd LOVE to see this local AND internet playable.

Re:TSUBABABAAAA!!!!!!

[SwordsmanLuke]

Amen! Moving that damn cursor around with the d-pad was horrible!

Re:TSUBABABAAAA!!!!!!

[Captain Spam]

Or, for that matter, the DS. Sega DID make an actually quite good GBA port of Chu Chu Rocket it a while ago, and ever since the DS came out, I've been left wondering why they never made a version for it. Seems a perfect fit with the stylus.

Re:TSUBABABAAAA!!!!!!

[NeutronCowboy]

Just adding my support for Chu Chu Rocket here. It's the ideal XBLA game: small in size, easy to pick up, and a mind-bending multi-player.

Convert

[SnarfQuest]

Skies of Arcadia?

Re:Convert

[Hatta]

You can already get that for the Gamecube which will run on the Wii.

Re:Convert

[SnarfQuest]

That's great, if you have a GameCube or a Wii.

Re:Convert

[SlashdotOgre]

I'm hoping for Skies to come out as well if only for it to get more exposure (and possibly draw support for a sequel). Skies is one of my favorite RPG's out there (up there with the Genesis version of Shadowrun), and I'd love to see a sequel. The story & environment was fairly original, the plot was interesting and gameplay mechanics fun -- it was really a solid title. I think there's a little hope because the SoA designers have done small things like having the main characters make a cameo in Valkyria Chronicles.

If they do bring it back, I'm curious if they'll make a way to play that little minigame that you played on the Dreamcast VMU. You needed a reward from that to get the final form of a particular "weapon" in the game.

Re:Convert

[commodore64_love]

Why wouldn't you have a Wii? It's the number 1 selling console. Not having a Wii is like not having a PS2, PS1, Super Nintendo, NES or Atari (previous generations' best sellers).

Re:Convert

[commodore64_love]

If I recall correctly, the VMU was emulated in the Gamecube version to enable players to get the final weapon.

Re:Convert

[CronoCloud]

Yes, but what kind of RPG fan owns a Gamecube rather than a backwards compatible PS3. That's what pissed me off about Sega, they didn't port the ONE game PS2 RPG players wanted to see most to the PS2.

Re:Convert

[h4rr4r]

If you can afford a ps3 or several 360s, since they die so often, you can easily afford the $35 for a gamecube.

Re:Convert

[h4rr4r]

I don't, since they do not make any backwards compatible PS3s anymore and I heard bad things about them at first. Instead the PS2 and PS3 share a shelf.

Re:Convert

[Narishma]

Not really. All those consoles you cited generally had very good support from third party developers, and so had a huge amount of very good games. The Wii however is attracting all the shovelware (with a few gems from time to time, mostly from Nintendo) while the best AAA games are only available on the PS3 and Xbox 360.

Re:Convert

[Doctor_Jest]

Yeah, the 60's were supposed to be a little dodgy (not NEARLY as dodgy as the 360, of course)... but I "sacrificed" the media card reader, built in wifi, and that snazzy chrome trim for a 20GB. Pop a 500GB drive in there and it's killer! Funny thing is, I use my PS2 when I want to play most of my PS2 games (aside from the Pinball collections, and perhaps a fighter or two)... I mostly use my PS3 as a PS3 or a PS1.

I bought a couple of Dreamcasts back when they went the way of the scrapheap, so I've got a pristine backup that will only suffer from a bad internal battery (Why did Sega not do the Saturn-style battery?)

Re:Convert

[CronoCloud]

but I "sacrificed" the media card reader, built in wifi, and that snazzy chrome trim for a 20GB

And the 4 USB ports. I often have USB Keyboard/mouse hooked up, along with an external hard drive. My headset is the Logitech USB one I've been using since SOCOM 2.

Funny thing is, I use my PS2 when I want to play most of my PS2 games

PS2 games look slightly better upscaled over HDMI than they do over component on a PS2. Also, virtual memory cards on the hard drive are very convenient.

Re:Convert

[Doctor_Jest]

My 20GB has 4 ports.

I never got around to getting the Memory card transfer kit, so I just finished my PS2 games on my PS2, and sometimes just kept going with the backlog... I'm sure if I gave it a shot the upscaled would look nice, but I have a 20" tube television that I hook my PS2 into so it's not all that dodgy. :) Of course when that dinosaur dies on me, I'll have to go upscaling :)

Re:Convert

[MBGMorden]

Wii sells a lot of it's units to people who wouldn't otherwise play games. Nothing wrong with that, but it's a very different crowd compared to the people who were playing those leaders from previous console generations.

Personally, there have just been very few Wii games that made me really want to go out and buy one. I've played the Wii-mote games at friend's houses, but just found it gimmicky. Zelda would have been close to getting me to buy, but it game out on the Gamecube which I already had.

Truthfully, the only Wii game I've really, really wanted has been the new Silent Hill game, and that one game isn't enough to make me buy a whole new console.

XB360 just seems to be the best value for the more traditional gamer IMHO. PS3 has had some good exclusives lately though, so I've been tempted to pickup one of those, but have broken down and dropped the cash on it yet. Maybe after the next price drop. I have a feeling we'll be on the current console generation a bit longer than normal.

Re:Convert

[Psykechan]

Skies of Arcadia Legends plays just fine on the Wii. If you're an RPG fan who bought a Wii for Dragon Quest and Final Fantasy spinoffs then just find yourself a GC controller and memory card and you're all set.

This is a moot point of contention anyway as anyone on /. who owns a backwards compatible PS3 can no longer access PSN thanks to Sony removing OtherOS.

Re:Convert

[CronoCloud]

You only lose access to PSN if you decide to keep Linux and not update your firmware to 3.21+, but when/if you do, you can access PSN.

Virtual On: Oratorio Tangram or Force for PSN?

[RyuuzakiTetsuya]

C'mon Sega, bring VOOT or VO4 to PS3. You know you want to!

Re:Virtual On: Oratorio Tangram or Force for PSN?

[Renraku]

Virtual On always did really well..I'm still trying to figure out why there's no massive VO release with multiplayer.

Re:Virtual On: Oratorio Tangram or Force for PSN?

[Anonymous Coward]

You mean like VO:OT for XBLA or a new game?

my humble list

[plonk420]

Typing of the Dead, Power Stone, and Chu Chu Rocket. on physical media, please.

Re:my humble list

[Anonymous Coward]

Typing of the Dead, Power Stone, and Chu Chu Rocket. on physical media, please.

Seconded. Pretty much one of the greatest party fighting games.

I wouldn't cry if I saw Grandia 2 up there, either.

Re:my humble list

[CronoCloud]

Considering how you can hook a regular USB keyboard to the PS3/360 and don't need to buy a special one like with the Deadcast, they really ought to port Typing of the Dead. (they never released the PS2 version, which did have USB support in the US)

Re:my humble list

[hedwards]

Physical media is the key as far as I'm concerned. I'm not interested if I'm at the mercy of Sony to move it to another unit.

Re:my humble list

[sznupi]

Is Win version of Typing... so horrible that rereleasing it on newer consoles would matter? (well, I was planing checking it out at some point; with Model M it should be interesting, considering that the keyboard sounds like some firearm with high rate of fire)

There's even Typing of the Dead 2; arcades and...Win only.

Re:my humble list

[KDR_11k]

For your console gaming needs there's also Rocking of the Dead in the works (different developer) that uses a guitar controller instead of a keyboard.

Re:my humble list

[sznupi]

Seems there's also English of the Dead in the works (to be fair probably not that different conceptually from Typing...)
Love the idea.

Controller

[MrEricSir]

It's just not the same playing those Dreamcast games without the awkward controller that makes your hands cramp up after 15 minutes.

Re:Controller

[Anonymous Coward]

Dreamcast had the second best controller comfort-wise, after the Playstation 1/2/3 style. I suppose you prefer a bunch of crap pieced together along the lines of N64 and XBox 1/360?

Re:Controller

[sznupi]

Hm, one of the platforms on which those games will be available is sort of from that lineage... (compare DC controller with original Xbox one; S controller and X360 aren't that different? ;p )

Re:Controller

[Stormwatch]

Dreamcast had the second best controller comfort-wise, after the Playstation 1/2/3 style.

I must disagree. Of all the controllers you've just mentioned... no, of ALL controllers in the last three generations, the Playstation is near the bottom of the barrel. Pretty much everything about it is poorly designed: the two analog sticks near the center, no analog triggers, those buttons with wacky symbols rather than letters... and they keep the same bad design unchanged, year after year, and people keep buying that crap. Sad.

Re:Controller

[orthicviper]

what about the shoulder buttons placed on top of the controller? there should be no buttons on top of the controller, they should be in the back. why are controllers made for aliens? the virtual boy controller had a kickass controller!

Re:Controller

[VanGarrett]

The last time Sony tried to redesign the PlayStation controller, they wound up with a Batarang.

Re:Controller

[dakameleon]

"wacky symbols"? You never heard of those four basic geometric shapes?

Re:Controller

[Doctor_Jest]

I *LOVE* the Playstation controller.. :) The one that I think is crap is the N64's abominable trident looking pile of owl snot. I even got used to the Dreamcast controller after marathon games of Soul Calibur... I just can't abide Nintendo's asinine designed controllers (what do they all get high and play with Visio to make those fucking things?) The controllers were small in the beginning on the NES... and they had CORNERS for god's sake. The SNES just got rid of the corners and added a few buttons. :) The Gamecube removed the third leg from the controller, but it certainly put more buttons on it than a Chinese radio...

The only thing I'd improve on the Playstation 3 controller is the texture. After a few bazillion hours of play, the grip tends to become smooth and slippery. (Not so much that it flies out of your hand when playing a Sixaxis game or anything... just doesn't feel "gripped" when you're playing.) :)

Re:Controller

[The Wooden Badger]

Yeah, they are basic shapes, but they don't have a logical sequence to a non-Playstation player. On an X-box or Dreamcast controller if I see something say "A" or "B" I don't have to look at the button to know which one to push. When I look at the screen and it says press SQUARE or CIRCLE, I have to look at the controller to know which one to press. I had this exact problem while playing my nephew's PS3 earlier today. Nothing like having to look down at a controller to know which button to press in the middle of a firefight.

Re:Controller

[Anonymous Coward]

The two analog sticks in the centre is so much more comfortable that the stupid one-forward, one-back design

Re:Controller

[Anonymous Coward]

no analog triggers

The PlayStation controller has had analog triggers since the PS2.

If you count the analog button thing they did. In that the L2/R2 report "how" pressed they are rather than just up/down.

Which is still a horrible design.

They managed to make it EVEN WORSE with the PS3 controller, by making L2/R2 more trigger like. Now, if you put the controller down, you'll press them. Which is fine unless you try and do something stupid like watch a movie on the PS3. (Or you can buy the PS3(TM) Blu-Ray(TM) Remote Control(TM)! Only $50 to avoid randomly jumping around movie due to horrid controller design!)

Re:Controller

[Anonymous Coward]

They do plan to release them for Xbox. That has a pretty awkward controller.

Re:Controller

[Fallingcow]

The Gamecube controller has fewer buttons than the N64 controller. It's got fewer than Playstation controllers, too--only eight by my count, while the PS controller has ten (not counting R3/L3).

Playstation: 8 normal game buttons, 2 start/select, 2 R3/L3
Gamecube: 7 game buttons, 1 start
N64: 9 game buttons, 1 start

It's a problem in the N64 emulation community, actually. Very, very few controllers have enough well-placed buttons to stand in for a real N64 controller. Saitek (IIRC) makes one, but it's reputed to have an awful D-pad with a tendency to fall off after a month or two of moderate use, and square analog stick holes rather than round.

You're left using an N64 controller via a USB adapter and living with its bad, often-broken analog stick or using a controller with fewer buttons but two analog sticks and mapping the C-buttons to the right stick, which sort-of works but not very well.

Re:Controller

[Doctor_Jest]

I suppose it's not the amount of buttons, but the placement of them that is the problem with the N64 controller. I never could get used to it. And the GC controller was different enough that it made playing sporadically a disadvantage. (Of course my XBox had the stupid Kong controller... and it was unwieldy...) For some reason, the PS controllers always felt the most comfortable in my hands. After hours upon hours of gaming from the PS1 to PS3, I've never had much to complain about in terms of "feel" from a PS controller. I even like to use them with MAME... (I got a powerjoy a while back for my Ps2 controller to work with retro arcade stuff... pretty snazzy.)

I never liked the R3/L3 because if you moved with the sticks too, chances are pushing down on the analog stick would move you slightly... thankfully I can't remember a game (platformer etc.) that really hit you in the nuts for that....

I really hated the Saitek GC controllers... they not only felt cheap, they seemed to be "sticky" with buttons clamping down as if the process to cut the holes out of the plastic was off by JUST enough... Meh. I have a Pelican Retro controller for my GC/Wii that is the only 3rd party one I actually like using.

Re:Controller

[damien_kane]

All of the buttons on DualShock 2 and 3 are pressure sensitive.
Few games take advantage of it though.

Re:Controller

[dakameleon]

The arrangement makes a little more sense in Japan, where the circle ("maru") is the symbol for Correct/Yes/OK - and X is the symbol for Wrong/No. Almost all Japanese Playstation games have O as the "confirm" action button and X as cancel. For some reason they flipped it when it went outside Japan.

Sony's marketing materials for PS1 pretty much always had X/O/triangle/square as an order, from memory - anti-clockwise around the controller face.

Point in my mind is the arrangement on the pad with A/B/X/Y is just as arbitrary as the basic shapes. True, the letters hark back to the NES/SNES days but presumably Sony wanted a point of differentiation?

Hooray! A Sonic game for 360 that's actually good!

[Anonymous Coward]

I heart Sonic Adventure, and haven't played it since my DC died on me so long ago...

Rush 2049

[Anonymous Coward]

Rush 2049 -- Had to get the old DC out the other day just to play 4-player deathmatch. I have heard of a previous port to xbox and ps2 but it sounds like it was crappy.

Re:Rush 2049

[MyFirstNameIsPaul]

Without a doubt, the best 'racing' game I've played, and I don't normally go for racing games.

I played the Blur demo, which was nice, but it didn't have all the different game modes that Rush had.

I want!

[Anonymous Coward]

Berserk!!!!!

Re:I want!

[jrronimo]

I'm with you on this. Berserk is a fantastic game. It's a shame the PS2 sequel never made it out. The trailer alone is phenomenal: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YSKMqKHQrh8 (the song is available for purchase for $4: http://noroom.susumuhirasawa.com/modules/opus/index.php/photo/4/ )

Seaman?

[tecnico.hitos]

I wonder if they could bring back Seaman.

Powerstone

[Nick Ives]

I've been waiting for someone to port the classic Powerstone to XBLA for ages. Ideally it would be Powerstone 2 and they'd put in online support for the 4 player mode.

Reading TFA just before hitting post, I notice it's already on that list.

Ooga Booga

[countSudoku()]

'nuff said. What do I win?!1!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ooga_Booga

Shenmue

[Hatta]

Hopefully they'll rerelease Shenmue. Then, hopefully it will sell really really well. Then, hopefully Sega will see that there's still life in the property and complete Shenmue 3. Then, hopefully they'll get Yu Suzuki to come back to work on it.

And while I'm hoping, I'd like a pony.

Re:Shenmue

[SeeSp0tRun]

I couldn't hope for Shenmue more. At least Crazy Taxi was plenty fun. I'd love to see the original House of the Dead get ported too... those shooters were great fun.

Re:Shenmue

[UnknownSoldier]

Shenmue would be a nice addition.

Rez HD on PSN would be nice too, (At least its available on XBL).

Some of my favorites are still even earlier on the Saturn - Guardian Heroes, and Virtual Cop. Still haven't found any good modern remakes.

Re:Shenmue

[dindi]

REZ ... yeah .. bought it on XBL, then got the red ring of dead... then got a ps3, and almost after 2 years, there is still no REZ ....

I do not play any regular arcade stuff (do not play at all on ps3 anymore at all), but REZ would make me turn the console on. Would be nice to have more tracks and places to explore, but what was there in the original is more than any other "musical shooter" offered ever since.

Re:Shenmue

[genner]

Hopefully they'll rerelease Shenmue. Then, hopefully it will sell really really well. Then, hopefully Sega will see that there's still life in the property and complete Shenmue 3. Then, hopefully they'll get Yu Suzuki to come back to work on it.

And while I'm hoping, I'd like a pony.

I'd also like a pony......the other things would be good too but the pony is more likely to happen.

Re:Shenmue

[emojoela]

I would absolutely love to play through Shenmue again. what other game has kung-fu and fork lift racing.

how about

[Anonymous Coward]

Radiant Silvergun 2, er Ikaruga?

Re:how about

[jrronimo]

Ikaruga is already available on XBLA. I think it's a port of the arcade version, but it's close enough.

Virtual on and Chu Chu Rocket please!

[Anonymous Coward]

Virtual on and Chu Chu Rocket please!

Re:Virtual on and Chu Chu Rocket please!

[jrronimo]

Virtual On: Oratorio Tangram is also available on XBLA. Maybe not the same one as the DC game, but pretty awesome.

None...

[rAiNsT0rm]

because my Dreamcast is still hooked up and humming along fine with all the games I love and the proper controller. VMU's I could do without.

Come.

[tepples]

I wonder if they could bring back Seaman.

"Seaman"? From Sega? The YouTube Poop scene would have a field day with that one.

Jet Grind Radio!

[MisterZimbu]

Jet Grind Radio, as long as they don't touch the soundtrack.

While we're at it, where's my Wii version of Space Channel 5?

Re:Jet Grind Radio!

[BoberFett]

There was Jet Set Radio Future for the original Xbox, which after a cursory search appears to be supported on the 360 through backward compatibility. Not sure how similar it is to the original, but JSRF did get good reviews on its own.

Unless I can get a disc forget it

[h4rr4r]

Unless I can get a disc forget it. I really like my PS3, but I am not dumb enough to buy downloaded games that will disappear when PSN stops supporting them or when after that I have to replace the ps3. I still play 20 year old computer games and unless I can play these games in another 20 years I will not buy them.

Re:Unless I can get a disc forget it

[BikeHelmet]

Sounds like you need to buy stuff on PC.

I'd suggest Steam, but a lot of people don't seem to believe they'll be around in 20 years - hence that insane "I must have a disc" requirement I keep hearing.

Well, for you, there's GOG. No DRM, so you can backup all the installers onto external HDD or DVD.

I'm not worried, though - Steam's track record is far superior to these other distribution services. XBoxLive/PSN will be good and dead before Steam disappears. (Microsoft already shutoff XBox1 Live, didn't they? That means in about 6-8 years, XBox360 Live will be shut down?)

Re:Unless I can get a disc forget it

[Anonymous Coward]

Agreed, especially for another reason. As a person who has 2 fat PS3s and uses Other OS and no intention of upgrading to the latest firmware, I no longer can use PSN (unless I ditch Other OS).

The only games I'll buy are also those that don't require a later firmware, although I've only bought 1 PS3 game since Sony screwed Other OS users.

(btw, I haven't looked, but anyone out there with a list of games and releases and what firmware they require yet?)

Then again, I'm still on the fence about getting rid of both PS3s, esp. with some of the games fetching such a high trade in value--only 1 of the 2 consoles has actually been used. The other is a virgin 60gb PS3 (near literally--unpacked, but never powered on), I bought it as a backup. Of course, I fully expect said status of virginity to be questioned, or at least an offer made to be the first to insert a disc into the console.

Re:Unless I can get a disc forget it

[dindi]

did it ever cross your mind, to upgrade one ps3, and have otheros on the other... that way you could play and have otheros :O

Re:Unless I can get a disc forget it

[Anonymous Coward]

The OP paid for a backup machine for OtherOS. How does your suggestion give them a backup for using the OtherOS feature that SONY took away?

Re:Unless I can get a disc forget it

[Anonymous Coward]

You should have gone with an Xbox 360 then. With Xbox Live you can just redownload the game if you need a new console. Even if they stop selling the game, you can still download anything you've bought on Xbox Live.

With Sony, well - hope you don't like OtherOS, or PS2 backwards compatibility, or those games you "bought"...

Re:Unless I can get a disc forget it

[MobileTatsu-NJG]

Unless I can get a disc forget it. I really like my PS3, but I am not dumb enough to buy downloaded games that will disappear when PSN stops supporting them or when after that I have to replace the ps3. I still play 20 year old computer games and unless I can play these games in another 20 years I will not buy them.

Though I sympathize, for me that'd depend on the price. That said, I do wish both Sony and Nintendo would take a page from Apple's book and make it so that if you pay for something like that their other devices you own now and in the future would also be able to download and access that content. This nonsense of locking the content to the device is unacceptable.

Re:Unless I can get a disc forget it

[Anonymous Coward]

I agree, and I also hope this causes a relief of demand on the actual Dreamcast games. With their prices going down, it would be a good time to pick them up since everyone else can just buy from the unlimited supply of XBLA/PSN copies.

Then again, Ikaruga has been out for some time yet it's still a hefty purchase to get the Dreamcast version, import shipping charges notwithstanding...

Re:Unless I can get a disc forget it

[adolf]

PSN downloads are tied to the account, not the device. The downside of doing it this way is that if PSN ever disappears (which it asymptotically will), the games are useless without real effort on Sony's part. The upside is that in the meantime, at least, hardware failure is not a big deal since you can just download things again.

Re:Unless I can get a disc forget it

[White Flame]

I'm not worried, though - Steam's track record is far superior to these other distribution services. XBoxLive/PSN will be good and dead before Steam disappears.

Past performance is not an indicator of future performance. From Square almost going bankrupt after The Spirits Within, to banks going bust, all it takes is one bad decision or association/environment change and old steady establishments can tank just as easily as flighty newcomers.

Re:Unless I can get a disc forget it

[MC68040]

"after that I have to replace the ps3"
I assume this means replacing it with another console.
You can download previously purchased games via your PSN account, e.g. if you get a new (PS3) console :)

Re:Unless I can get a disc forget it

[dindi]

yeah ..... i just got a backup bike... now I am only using that one .....

that must have gotten me confused :)

Phantasy Star Online

[TheBlueCrab]

What I'd love to see would be an update of the original Phantasy Star Online... Updated graphics, including Episode 1, 2, and 4 (a new episode after those would be a nice bonus), and a solid online community (preferably with all the hacks fixed). Even if its a pipe-dream, I'd also like to see them make it an available option to connect to unofficial servers for when the servers that would be put up would inevitably be taken down.

Re:Phantasy Star Online

[VanGarrett]

It's entirely possible that Phantasy Star Online will be included in the downloadable re-releases. Fans attending the launch party for Phantasy Star Zero this past November, were treated to a teleconference with Satoshi Sakai, where it was announced that Sega had something big in mind to celebrate PSO's 10th Anniversary, which is coming up at the end of this year. A downloadable re-release of the game could very well be their plan.

If that is the case, however, I really doubt that it will include online support, and I would expect it to be a port of the Xbox version of the game, which means no Episode IV. Then again, if they're polishing it up like they're talking about with Sonic Adventure and Crazy Taxi, then who knows? They could very well end up giving us a surprising amount of new content.

Anything online

[lyinhart]

I'm assuming Sega will only be responsible for releasing first party Dreamcast titles (Namco previously released the DC version of Soul Calibur to Xbox Live Arcade.) Sega should release DC games with a multiplayer component since most of those titles are offline now. I'm thinking Outtrigger and Alien Front Online - the latter of which came out near the end of the Dreamcast's life cycle. And of course, Phantasy Star Online.

I'm still curious to see how they will display the games in high definition. I guess they'll just make everything widescreen and upscale the 480p image - I highly doubt they'll have the graphics rendered in 720p.

Re:Anything online

[genner]

I'm assuming Sega will only be responsible for releasing first party Dreamcast titles (Namco previously released the DC version of Soul Calibur to Xbox Live Arcade.) Sega should release DC games with a multiplayer component since most of those titles are offline now. I'm thinking Outtrigger and Alien Front Online - the latter of which came out near the end of the Dreamcast's life cycle. And of course, Phantasy Star Online. I'm still curious to see how they will display the games in high definition. I guess they'll just make everything widescreen and upscale the 480p image - I highly doubt they'll have the graphics rendered in 720p.

Emulators are already doing this.

Easy.

[credd144az]

Powerstone 2 and then... 3?!?!?!??

Shenmueeee

[Anonymous Coward]

The more you bet, the more EXCITED he gets :D

Two words...

[barfy]

Samba Di Amigo, and Seaman....

I could finally ditch my dream cast.

IPad?

[MikeFM]

I keep requesting games like Skies of Arcadia and Crazy Taxi be ported to iPad. I will buy them. There were lots of good DC games.

Huh?

[Ignatius D'Lusional]

Great, now I can play Crazy Taxi! Oh wait, they already ported that to PS2 ages ago. You mean Dreamcast had other games???

Absolutely

[wandazulu]

Jet Grind/Set Radio is probably my #1 of man-I-wish-I-could-play-that-again titles from the DC era. I was able to buy a copy of the soundtrack from an online reseller (who's name everybody would recognize, but I've completely forgotten...they were shut down by Sony/Nintendo...Lik Sang?) and I was listening to it just two days ago.

Good times. Great game. Awesome tunes.

The Typing of the Dead

[detritus.]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Typing_of_the_Dead

This was a game that I still cherish today - probably the best typing game out there.

Web Browser 3.0!

[Dahamma]

But only if they emulate the Dreamcast built-in 56k modem as well...

Re:Web Browser 3.0!

[drinkypoo]

But only if they emulate the Dreamcast built-in 56k modem as well...

Dreamcast web browser was built on WinCE. Or at least some were, but I suspect all were, it's the only full-fledged OS besides Linux known to run on the system. There's TCP/IP support in the OS. So if there was any reason to do that (there isn't, though) they would just have to talk to TCP/IP.

Re:Web Browser 3.0!

[Dahamma]

Sure, web browsers are based on HTTP which of course uses TCP/IP for transport. Obviously the XBox supports TCP/IP. So did the Dreamcast modem, over a PPP link.

The joke was that the browser was fairly awful by 2000 standards, let alone today, and mostly unusable at the time due to the horribly slow connection and TV-based interface. Supporting it on XBox Live would only be interesting as an exercise in nostalgia and example of how archaic it is only 10 years later.

Or - whoosh ;)

podracing

[Anonymous Coward]

Star Wars Episode 1: Racer for the win. One of the best racing games made on the Dreamcast. See for reference: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Wars_Episode_I:_Racer

Starlancer

[Anonymous Coward]

Anyone ever play Starlancer? I doubt it will be ported, but if you have a dreamcast try to pick up a copy.

is this new?

[Anonymous Coward]

Aren't sonic adventures and crazy taxi already available on the xbox?

Blue Stinger

[Anonymous Coward]

Blue Stinger was probably the best DC game I'd ever played, shoddy controls included. It's an RE-derivative, but it's still an amazing game. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_Stinger Please bring back this game!

Wild Arms

[cbytes]

Aside from countless hours of Soul Calibur, my Dreamcast days were filled with Wild Arms and Dead or Alive 2. A Soul Calibur remake with updated graphics would make pixels squirt from my pants. Just sayin....

Jesus

[Anonymous Coward]

I'm drooling too much to make a list as I just read this, but man I will.

Pod Racer

[emojoela]

Episode one Pod Racer, i had it for both pc and Dreamcast and the Dreamcast version was so great. i would total buy it even just to take a few hours with my brother on a stroll down memory lane. I think it would be silly to charge everyone to play Phantasy Star cause i'm pretty sure every one still has there copy of it since it's nearly impossible to sell off.

Re:Pod Racer

[Anonymous Coward]

I spent a lot of time on Pod Racer on my PC. It was a well-made race game, about as entertaining as the first few CMRs.

Choose

[Anonymous Coward]

better topic line?

Jet Grind Radio, Seaman

[HalAtWork]

Jet Grind Radio would be a great one, it's better than the sequel and hard to find. Seaman would be a fun title, and could use all those headsets many players already own for voice chat. Shenmue would be another, it would be nice to preserve this piece of video game history. I'd like to see Chu Chu Rocket as well, it fits in perfectly with many other PSN/XBLA titles, and would also be great on WiiWare. They should also get together with Q Entertainment and bring Rez to the PSN, and I'd like to play it on Wii since the controls would lend themselves perfectly to that game.

ARMADA!

[GoNINzo]

Bring back Armada!

With online multiplayer, that would be awesome. I mean, Armada Online is great and all, it's totally not the same as the original.

Yeah...

[eagee]

Yeah... *That's* the unrealistic part about that game...

Pen Pen Tricelon!!!

[eagee]

Since I don't get to talk about dreamcast much, I just want to say that I loved this game. It got totally panned in the reviews, but it's the only dreamcast title my kids and I still play.

Put me down for Crazy Taxi if it's priced right

[xjerky]

I forget how many hours I lost playing the DC version. If they have multiplayer, I hope they let you compete with other players for taxi fares...that would make it even more fun, I'd think!