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Canon Blocks Copy Jobs Using Banned Keywords

aesoteric notes that a future version of Canon's document management system will include the exciting breakthrough technology that will OCR your printed and scanned documents, and prevent distribution of keywords. Documents containing the offending words can be sent to the administrator, without actually telling the user just what word tripped the alarm. The article notes that simply using 1337 for example will get around it.

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  1. How Long... by citoxE · · Score: 5, Funny

    How long until making photocopies of your butt becomes a thing of the past?

    1. Re:How Long... by StikyPad · · Score: 2, Funny

      Should be fine for now unless your butt is labeled.

    2. Re:How Long... by The+MAZZTer · · Score: 5, Funny

      Easy, just add (_(_) to the keywords list!

    3. Re:How Long... by John+Hasler · · Score: 4, Funny

      They can buy the requisite genital recognition software from Chatroulette.

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    4. Re:How Long... by WillAffleckUW · · Score: 1

      How long until making photocopies of your butt becomes a thing of the past?

      For maximum butt privacy, make sure you cover any barcode tattoos or corporate logos the s/w can pick up ... hmm, guess Angelina Jolie will have probs.

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    5. Re:How Long... by williamhb · · Score: 1

      How long until making photocopies of your butt becomes a thing of the past?

      How long until making photocopies of your butt so a picture of your mooning backside automatically gets emailed to the system administrator or your boss becomes the thing of the future!

    6. Re:How Long... by John+Hasler · · Score: 4, Funny

      Attention! There will be butt lineup in the cafeteria at 2PM! Be ready to drop your trousers! We are going to find the miscreant who has been mooning the copier!

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    7. Re:How Long... by Rob+the+Bold · · Score: 2, Funny

      How long until making photocopies of your butt becomes a thing of the past?

      This is the new Volvo I want!

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    8. Re:How Long... by mysidia · · Score: 3, Interesting

      It's amazing how versatile the Chatroulette technology concept could be. The recognition of human body parts from images surprisingly seems to have more in-demand applications than computer vision in general; and all to control people and prevent them from doing stupid things.

      Genitalia image detection could stop abuse of hand-washing robots, keep certain nastiness off slashdot, AI Physicians

      It's amazing people drop to the level of stupidity they'd actually try to photocopy genitals, disregarding the obvious risks involved... that makes them dumber than the computer in that action.

    9. Re:How Long... by EdIII · · Score: 1, Funny

      That software is not worth that much at all.

      I continue to put my penis up on Chatroulette quite often. Not once has Chatroulette's software determined that I have a penis. It's clearly defective software.

    10. Re:How Long... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      Clearly you do not meet the qualifications.

    11. Re:How Long... by RogerRoast · · Score: 1

      Until the machine sees "I love you" code on the butt

    12. Re:How Long... by WrongSizeGlass · · Score: 4, Funny

      Does the tattoo on my keister count as a label?

    13. Re:How Long... by david+duncan+scott · · Score: 2, Insightful

      The obvious risks of copying my buttcheeks? Care to elaborate, 'cause it's not especially obvious to me. Stupid, maybe, but not risky.

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    14. Re:How Long... by aXis100 · · Score: 2, Funny

      Hahahahahahahaha.

      Better add (.)(.) whilst you are at it too. :)

    15. Re:How Long... by DinDaddy · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Have you considered that the glass platen on the copier may not be load rated?

    16. Re:How Long... by complete+loony · · Score: 1

      Well there's the obvious risk from breaking the glass screen with your bum...

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    17. Re:How Long... by BitterOak · · Score: 2, Insightful

      The obvious risks of copying my buttcheeks? Care to elaborate, 'cause it's not especially obvious to me. Stupid, maybe, but not risky.

      How about the fact that many copiers now contain hard drives and keep records of images copied.

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    18. Re:How Long... by asavage · · Score: 1

      Many copiers aren't built to support 200+lbs on the glass which can lead to very painful results.

    19. Re:How Long... by PaganRitual · · Score: 1

      You don't scare me. That could be anyone's ass.

    20. Re:How Long... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      The one that says "cock holster"?

    21. Re:How Long... by M.+Baranczak · · Score: 4, Funny

      If you have older staff, add UU.

    22. Re:How Long... by davester666 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      This doesn't PREVENT people from doing anything. It actively ENABLES people to get fired...or blackmailed...

      And the sysadmin gets a lot of interesting emails.

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    23. Re:How Long... by Macgrrl · · Score: 1

      Hence the invention of the AssJet!

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    24. Re:How Long... by Pseudonym · · Score: 1

      X-Bender: It's like looking in a smelly mirror!

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    25. Re:How Long... by mysidia · · Score: 2, Insightful

      This doesn't PREVENT people from doing anything. It actively ENABLES people to get fired...or blackmailed...

      I am sure the employees will be informed of this technology and the fact that it is in use, or there will be suitable signs on the machines (I cannot imagine what those signs might say), but no doubt the preventive power exists in the form of DETERRENCE. Employees would be told about body part recognition, and believe the sysadmin team will get an e-mail (whether or not they actually do is another matter).

      [* Unless the sysadmin team is known to be a humorous bunch, and someone intentionally photocopies body parts, with messages aimed at the sysadmin staff. Then it might do the opposite of deter.]

      I don't believe the manufacturer will necessarily be able to keep the 'mail it to the sysadmin' feature in the long run.

      It possibly opens up the company (and the manufacturer of the device) to liability and lawsuits, related to privacy violations, and intentionally facilitating privacy violations; intrusion upon privacy and intrusion upon seclusion, in the form of 'bugging the photo copier'.

      This is similar to placing a hidden microphone in a manager's office intending to invade upon their private affairs, without informing the employee there may be a hidden microphone.

      The recording without their knowledge, coupled with a tortious intent, may give the recorded person a cause of action for a lawsuit against the employer.

      From a corporate governance and security perspective, this function can also be a security risk, and possible issue in regards to compliance with security regulations... the sysadmin is not necessarily supposed to be privvy to the nature of all materials that might be copied.

      Standard security practice typically requires separation of duties.

      This would suggest the printer admins do not have access to workstations or servers used for other purposes.

      The "e-mail to sysadmin" feature, especially if it can be performed without actually rejecting the print or copy job, could actually facilitate security compromises, or elevation of privilege (a sysadmin privvy over one area gaining access to information secured by other departments).

      And "printing out a sheet of password cards" to lock in the vault or hand to employees (for password changes) becomes an extremely bad idea.

    26. Re:How Long... by rtb61 · · Score: 1

      Of course it is guaranteed to prevent the executive running up to their assistant and demanding 20 copies of 50 page document in five minutes because they forgot to do it earlier. Why does my mind baulk at the idea of high speed copiers and OCR software having to scan a process each and every page before it allows a copy to be produced.

      So you have a 100 page report, does the printer block the whole report leaving guessing which of the thousands of words you have used is considered naughty, does it just stop at that page and refuse to go one or does in print the rest of the document leaving gaps, which you don't notice as you deliver it prior to checking your email.

      Finally how secure will they make and will some black hat being able to access the system and permanently bl0clk 4ll v0w3ls.

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    27. Re:How Long... by xclr8r · · Score: 1

      Staff/Staph infection. Now we know how it propagates.

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    28. Re:How Long... by WidgetGuy · · Score: 1

      Not long once the conclusions of a recent scientific study become public.

      According to this study, photocopying your ass makes it look HUGE and photocopying your penis makes it look TINY.

      There. Fixed that for you.

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    29. Re:How Long... by mwvdlee · · Score: 1

      Why would you want to stop people making photocopies of that?

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    30. Re:How Long... by Barsteward · · Score: 1

      hey, its not an iPhone 4 model

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    31. Re:How Long... by laejoh · · Score: 1

      African or European glass platen?

    32. Re:How Long... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      That's a FEATURE not a bug -- it stops fat american chicks from photocopying their asses but while allowing slim European beautys to do it with impunity.

    33. Re:How Long... by Beale · · Score: 3, Funny

      Well, if you're the admin, it means you get the 'document' sent to you with no extra effort.

    34. Re:How Long... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      And if they're not nipple-less aliens, add ( . )( . )

    35. Re:How Long... by Compaqt · · Score: 1

      The one that says "Confidential - Eyes Only"

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    36. Re:How Long... by ginbot462 · · Score: 1

      Yes, clearly they need to wipe first. That's the kind thing to do.

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    37. Re:How Long... by cerberusss · · Score: 1

      Easy, just add (_(_) to the keywords list!

      That's what the default should be. Pictures like yours should be forbidden. Who needs to copy a picture of a bloody, gory, mutilated body, where everything above and below the buttocks is decapitated?

      You people make me sick.

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    38. Re:How Long... by balbus000 · · Score: 1

      I imagine if they blocked it, people would do it even more. A PDF would be sent to the admin every time!

    39. Re:How Long... by david+duncan+scott · · Score: 1
      Because it is a word, albeit not perfectly applied in this context? The platen is the plate used to press the paper into the type in a printing press, so it's probably more applicable to the drum in a copier than to the cover glass.

      At any rate, I don't think he meant "platen" as some sort of bastard-German plural, like Vaxen.

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    40. Re:How Long... by david+duncan+scott · · Score: 1
      Spray cleaner. The glass ought to be cleaned once in a while anyway.

      Do you worry about telephone handsets and toilet handles as well?

      (Unless, of course, you were just working the staph/staff pun, in which case I apologize for my density.)

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    41. Re:How Long... by Dabido · · Score: 1

      It says, 'No Entry. Exit Only.'

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  2. Just what we need... by betterunixthanunix · · Score: 1

    I guess they thought, "Well, it is no worse than IBM selling equipment to the Germans during World War II!"

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    1. Re:Just what we need... by betterunixthanunix · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Maybe because the photocopier is not enforcing "CONFIDENTIAL DO NOT COPY" -- it goes way beyond that, checking a blacklist of words? It is not that this technology itself is evil, it is more that it can be used for all sorts of evil things.

      You seem to think that these machines will only be purchased by corporations. What gives you that idea? How do you know that public libraries won't have these machines installed? What about schools? The problem is that this technology can and most likely will be abused. Public libraries and schools already filter websites; this will take that sort of censorship to an entirely new level.

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    2. Re:Just what we need... by retchdog · · Score: 1

      Yes, one locksmith. The rest of them don't have a problem. ;-)

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    3. Re:Just what we need... by pyrrho · · Score: 1

      what idiot goes to a locksmith to copy a key? Cause I know the hardware store will copy those keys.

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    4. Re:Just what we need... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      Here's a scenario.

      Blocked Keywords

      Conspiracy, 911, HFT, inside job, insider trading, foreclosuregate, chemtrail, corruption, malfeasance, misfeasance, cracked voting machine, election fraud, legal theft, eugenics, oath breaker, fascism, fascist, failed USD, treason, murder, propaganda, corporate media, unconstitutional, intermittent constitution, mark to market, spying, wiki, cryptome, alex jones, Geo Engineering, aluminum, barium, Depleted Uranium, Fibromyalgia, obesity, HFCS, AIPAC, PNAC, CFR, TC, UN, IMF, bilderberg, rothchild, 401k theft, masturbating cops, failed state

      okay, now try printing any story about Government corruption.

      I hear they have a computer which can tell when people are going to snap. Which is a fucking joke, cause if all you did was pay attention you could see the writing on the wall, this shit ain't going to end well.

    5. Re:Just what we need... by LordLimecat · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Then copy your own damn papers, its not like copiers are futuristic alien technology that only high end corporations have access to.

      I mean damn, I know slashdot is paranoid, but this is ridiculous; this is for corporate enforcement, nothing more.

    6. Re:Just what we need... by david+duncan+scott · · Score: 5, Insightful
      You don't actually know many librarians, do you? They're the ones who put books on the shelf that cause protests. They've installed filtering software when legally mandated, and they get rid of it as soon as they can.

      I renewed my card at Enoch Pratt a few years back, and the librarian looked over my record, said, "Oh, they were collecting SSN's back then--let me just delete THAT from the record..." Not your typical bureaucrats, there, not at all. They're not in it for the money or the power.

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    7. Re:Just what we need... by Pseudonym+Authority · · Score: 2, Funny

      They're not in it for the money or the power.

      Oh I beg to differ, knowledge is power you know, and they just love to accumulate knowledge. Damn power hungry librarians.

    8. Re:Just what we need... by fluffy99 · · Score: 1

      What exactly is so incredibly and overwhelmingly evil about a corporate owned photocopier that is able to enforce the "CONFIDENTIAL DO NOT PHOTOCOPY" marks on important documents? A locksmith will refuse to cut a key that says "DO NOT DUPLICATE". Is this more evil than that? Less? Same?

      Exactly. It's a means of preventing or detecting if employees are printing or illicitly photocopying controlled or sensitive documents. I'm pretty sure the DOD would be interested in controlling the copying or printing of classified documents on an unclassified printer for example. The obvious key words would be confidential, limited distributions, etc.

      Don't get wrapped up thinking this is censorship because you can't xerox your kids boy scout flyers using company equipment and paper.

    9. Re:Just what we need... by eh2o · · Score: 4, Informative

      Yeah they are in it for the sex! Duh.

    10. Re:Just what we need... by russotto · · Score: 1

      A locksmith will refuse to cut a key that says "DO NOT DUPLICATE". Is this more evil than that? Less? Same?

      Some locksmiths will refuse to copy a key which says "DO NOT DUPLICATE". Others will ask if you want the copy stamped "DO NOT DUPLICATE" as well.

    11. Re:Just what we need... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      I am led to believe by hollywood that librarians become hot immediately upon undoing their hair (traditionally worn in a bun) and taking off their glasses.

    12. Re:Just what we need... by rjames13 · · Score: 3, Funny

      I always wanted to be a locksmith but I don't know howto break into that industry.

    13. Re:Just what we need... by rekenner · · Score: 1

      Further, public libraries want government money. It's a mandate. Install net filtering software or don't get money. It's amazingly fucking stupid, but that's life.

    14. Re:Just what we need... by TheCarp · · Score: 1, Insightful

      This is something that occurred to me recently at one of our corporate love-fests....

      There is right, and then there is right. Certainly, its true... the company has the right to buy whatever copier it wants, and place whatever restrictions on it, which they like etc.

      I don't dispute this at all. What I do dispute is that well... ok "Confidential Do not copy" may be a good one. The first use that comes to mind is actually trying to catch people using the copier for personal things. Now, I will say yes, the company has every right.... ... but... does it actually serve the cause of creating respect for the company and the rules amongst employees if the actions that the company takes, however "right" seem petty? I mean, I grab mechanical pencils and toss them in my work folder with my notebook to take notes at meetings. Sometimes I whip out the old note pad and pencil off hours for personal reasons. Am I stealing pencil lead? Am I stealing lined paper? (actually, I buy my own pad of graph paper, because I like it, but, I could just as easily use their lined paper in my note pad). Am I misusing company property?

      I mean, yes, in a very technical sense. However, its not like I am stealing RAM from the desktops (its happened actually). I am not taking equipment home for my own use, its a piece of paper and pencil that I grabbed and used out of convinience, because I carry them with me anyway and take my pack home with me (with the company laptop). If someone tried to give me shit for it, it would seriously degrade any respect that I had for them on account of such utter pettiness.

      This isn't really the policy that made me think of this, but, its not too far off in terms of "right but over the top".

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    15. Re:Just what we need... by JustOK · · Score: 1

      you may not use the company's oxygen during unpaid breaks. Please bring you own or do without.

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    16. Re:Just what we need... by Literaryhero · · Score: 1

      No, sir, you may not have another pencil until you bring us the stub of your previous one!

    17. Re:Just what we need... by camperslo · · Score: 2, Interesting

      ...this is for corporate enforcement, nothing more.

      I share the same wishful thinking but...

      Considering that many copiers also function as printers, it seems very possible that the keyword technology will end up in a networked printer. If that happens, a hack or backdoor feature to report access of documents with certain markings or keywords to a remote location certainly seems possible. Slowly send data by carefully crafted time server accesses or something and who would know? Couldn't info be passed along under the guise of periodic or startup firmware update checks? If one doesn't see the source of fax/print drivers, couldn't they also be crafted to pass along information?

      To have OCR, one of these copiers is obviously a scanner integrated with a printer and some brains. Compared to what would already be included, it probably wouldn't take much more code to add spooky features. (Don't some printers/drivers already add subtle changes to imbed info in output that can indicate where it came from?)

      Even consumer copiers not marketed as having the banned-keywords features could end up being sold with the same potential capabilities. It's not an unheard of concept. For example some DSL modems originally designed with firewalls shipped with modified firmware for certain ISPs that took away access to and visible signs of the firewalls in their web setup pages.

    18. Re:Just what we need... by longhairedgnome · · Score: 1

      Get with the program, it's a simple turn-key operation

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    19. Re:Just what we need... by Pax00 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I remember when I was in school and I wanted to run some RPGs but didn't have any of the books anymore.. I couldn't stand having PDFs so I figured I would start printing out the books, 3 hole punch them and put them in 3 ring binders. So I started with the core books and moved on to the supplements. I don't know how many pages I printed. Several thousand easy. The first page it printed was a cover page. The school started catching on to how much was being printed so they limited each print job to something like 20 pages.

      I know my example is about printing and not copying, but I could see where it would help to deal with similar abuses.

    20. Re:Just what we need... by VJ42 · · Score: 1

      I am led to believe by hollywood that librarians become hot immediately upon undoing their hair (traditionally worn in a bun) and taking off their glasses.

      As a male Librarian who based his career choice on this notion - Hollywood unfortunately has this one wrong.

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    21. Re:Just what we need... by The+Creator · · Score: 4, Funny

      As a male Librarian who based his career choice on this notion - Hollywood unfortunately has this one wrong.

      So you've failed miserably at attracting mates by letting down your hair and taking off your glasses?

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    22. Re:Just what we need... by kj_in_ottawa · · Score: 1

      You would have just thrown the Cannon copier into a Star Trek Logic Bomb death spiral. Your post talks about reproduction and RPGs. Does not compute....

    23. Re:Just what we need... by LordLimecat · · Score: 1

      Then find another damn job.

      The sense of entitlement here never ceases to amaze me.

    24. Re:Just what we need... by LordLimecat · · Score: 1

      Its not your concern. Giving more capabilities to the IT department is generally a good thing, and if you find the environment to be opressive, you leave. If enough people find it to be oppressive and leave, the company fails, or changes.

      The market has certain failures and flaws, but one of its strengths is that that which works, survives, and as an employee you (collective) are integral to the survival of that company.

      I mean has it occurred to you that, if a company can make x% more profits by doing this, and there are less privileged people here willing to put up with the atrocity of not being able to do personal copying in order to make the salary you make, then perhaps you arent as entitled to your job as you think you are? That, just perhaps, its a business, and its purpose is to find a balance between keeping its employees happy, and turning a profit?

    25. Re:Just what we need... by LordLimecat · · Score: 1

      AFAIK it is legal for a company to do that. The reason they dont, is because its a free market, and if the company pisses off its employees, it will eventually fail.

      Thats like decrying as a flaw of democracy, that a presidential candidate can advocate the dismantling of the local government. Except it ignores that the system will prevent such a person from ever winning the presidency.

    26. Re:Just what we need... by LordLimecat · · Score: 1

      If youre super paranoid, you dont HAVE to tell your copier DNS or gateway addresses. I mean why the hell does it need internet access?

    27. Re:Just what we need... by LordLimecat · · Score: 1

      Theres a difference between setting a policy, enforcing it through technical means, and dealing with the human side of the issue. Setting a policy with no means of enforcement and then trying to punish an entire department when it does not comply seems like an HR disaster, to me. Isnt there generally some requirement for showing at least a token attempt at enforcing a policy before taking punitive measures?

    28. Re:Just what we need... by shipbrick · · Score: 1

      "Technology is never good or evil. It's how it's used... like the death ray." -Farnsworth

    29. Re:Just what we need... by cerberusss · · Score: 1

      They're not in it for the money or the power.

      They picked their job for the same reason I chose to study computer science: money, women, power.

      (Stolen from Sedyn, here on slashdot)

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    30. Re:Just what we need... by Johnny5000 · · Score: 1

      Then copy your own damn papers, its not like copiers are futuristic alien technology that only high end corporations have access to.

      So only people who can afford to buy their own copiers should have the ability to make copies without having to fear they're going to get into some kind of trouble because they happen to photocopy a page with some unknown secret banned keywords on it?

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    31. Re:Just what we need... by cynyr · · Score: 1

      so you scripted your printjobs to be 19 pages each then.... right right?

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    32. Re:Just what we need... by darnkitten · · Score: 1
      Only in academic libraries.

      In public libraries we would love to accumulate knowledge, but only have the funds to accumulate the latest Jodi Picoult or Janet Evanovich. Damn best seller lists.

    33. Re:Just what we need... by darnkitten · · Score: 2, Interesting
      I run a small rural library. We decided not to apply for those funds which require filtering. We apply for funding for our POTS (telephone), long distance and the data line, but not internet access--the internet access funds mandate filtering, but the line that connects us to the internet does not. It means having to be more cautious when filling out the federal paperwork, and is sometimes not worth the effort. About half the time, we decide just to skip the year's funding.

      We do explain to parents applying for internet passes for their children that we don't filter, and a few parents decide to withhold permission from the kids or decide to only allow them access when the parent is there to watch over them.

    34. Re:Just what we need... by Buelldozer · · Score: 1

      As a sysadmin for a public libary this statement really gets my hackles up "Public libraries and schools already filter websites; this will take that sort of censorship to an entirely new level".

      I can't speak for schools but I can tell you that most, if not all, libraries are very concerned with the idea of censorship and fight it at every opportunity. Does my public access web system filter websites? Yes, after years and years of abuse by patrons I finally had to give in and do it. When streaming sex videos began to account for 70% of my total bandwidth usage something had to be done.

      First I tried just filtering the obvious sites, porntube, redtube, etc but people quickly found "off-brand" sites and they found them faster than I could block them. Realizing I was trapping myself into the classic blacklist problem I then setup streaming rules, not allowing streaming media to consume more than a certain percent of my total bandwidth. This didn't work because when the librarians have training classes it's possible for 40+ people to be lighting up youtube for a legitimate reason and with the streaming media consumption rules it didn't work very well.

      I gave in and categorically blocked pornography, not on a moral basis but on a technical one. I fought valiantly for years putting in hundreds of hours of work to keep from doing it but in the end I was overwhelmed by peoples desire to look at naked pictures of other people.

      So right now if you're an adult and use our public access system porn is the only thing that's blocked. We keep NO logs on where you, individually, visit and all system (server, firewall, etc) logs are flushed every 24 hours.

      When you start spinning a wild yarn about how eviiiiiil libraries are censoring your activities I smell it for the bullshit it is. IF we do it it's usually because we are pushed to it and then we implement it in the least obtrusive way possible.

      If you're curious I fought the same battle with P2P traffic. I don't care if you want to download a pirated copy of IronMan 2, I really don't. What I do care about is when you and 10 of your buddies all come over to do it and you're using so much bandwidth that other users can't get on to check their email. Then you hang around the library all day doing it for weeks on end.Guess what? P2P is now throttled to hell and back because dimwits don't understand the concept of "below the radar". When the usage rules can no longer keep up then P2P will be banned too.

    35. Re:Just what we need... by TheCarp · · Score: 1

      Well duh.

      I was simply posing a question with my thoughts on the subject. I think these rules can go to far, and in going too far, can be bad for the company.

      Also, the purpose of my company is NOT to make money. Not at all. We are more like a budgeted department of several companies than a company on our own. Though technically we are separate, imaging having customers who consume your services, but don't pay for them..instead they get to decide how much they will pay once a year. (we are fixing this by phasing in charge backs but... thats a whole different can of worms and isn't even intended to change the model for most things)

      In any case, I know these questions are "above my pay grade", and I prefer to keep them there. However, I have seen how eroding morale (one of our management's specialties) hurts output. The rule that I was thinking of came about from a corruption scandal. The only problem is, they went way too far to the point that they actually make a point to tell people that you can't even accept a free pen from a vendor. I mean, a pen. Then its rules about whether you can eat lunch supplied by a vendor (which takes into account things like whether its off site and whether its a free event (no) or one we paid for (yes) ).

      I mean, I can see some of it, the base concept of the rules is right. Of course, its not even clear why we needed new rules since... when the corruption was exposed, they had no problem firing the people involved. Seems the old rules worked just fine... oh well. In any case, its something that I occasionally think about.

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    36. Re:Just what we need... by evansvillelinux · · Score: 1

      How do you know that public libraries won't have these machines installed? ...snip... Public libraries and schools already filter websites; this will take that sort of censorship to an entirely new level.

      I can tell you from experience that we (libraries) only filter because we pretty much have to in order to continue to receive federal funding. Unless the feds push it on us, we won't be installing any of these copiers. Censorship sucks and most librarians hate it and fought very hard to stop it from happening in the first place.

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    37. Re:Just what we need... by evansvillelinux · · Score: 1

      You don't actually know many librarians, do you?

      THIS! Libraries get all kinds of shit dumped on them from all directions and tend to be the only ones really being the champions for personal rights and privacy!

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  3. Names? by vikisonline · · Score: 1

    It will be interesting to see when businesses wont be able to fax, or deal with clients whose names contains those banned words because of this technology. Once again 3 steps forward, 2 back...

    1. Re:Names? by betterunixthanunix · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I wonder if this sort of censorship will find its way into public libraries. You know, they'll claim there is a national security interest in prevent certain kinds of pamphlets from being printed, or something to that effect, and before you know it a routine trip to the library will turn into an interrogation in a back room somewhere.

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    2. Re:Names? by javakah · · Score: 5, Funny

      Hey, look on the bright side, if you manage to get access to the admin side of the copier (or perhaps if you've found that they never set it up, but your copier has this functionality), you can have loads of fun. Imagine if the copier wouldn't copy anything with the letter a in it, and if someone tried to, it would email your manager (or their boss). All the fun of shutting down the copier and spamming someone at the same time!

    3. Re:Names? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      Um...why would the business configure those keywords to be banned if they did have a use for them?

      Or did you not understand how the software was meant to be used, not by Canon configuring it from on high, but by the business's own administrators picking words they wanted to restrict?

      This may or may not be a desired feature for you, or very good in its implementation, but do try to understand what it is.

      Read his post before accusing him of not understanding it.

      There are plenty of people with curse words or trademarks in their legal names (particularly foreigners, I've known a few Japanese people who ended up being referred to as ****amari or o****a in our system), turns out "Don't add Smith or Johnson to the blacklist" doesn't always work in preventing this.

    4. Re:Names? by John+Hasler · · Score: 1

      The "banned words" are installed by the business.

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    5. Re:Names? by betterunixthanunix · · Score: 1

      So?

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    6. Re:Names? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      I am Dick Johnson and why aren't I getting any faxes?

    7. Re:Names? by Technician · · Score: 5, Interesting

      If you want to block copying of some documents, you can simply watermark them with the anti counterfeiting constellation. Use something that will print the constellation and print up a ream of paper. Use the anti copy paper for the documents you don't want copied.
      Print this in yellow ink in the background.
      http://globalpapersecurity.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/150px-EURion.svg_.png/

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    8. Re:Names? by poopdeville · · Score: 1

      Clbuttic!

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    9. Re:Names? by Mr.+Freeman · · Score: 1

      Why on earth were email filters even implemented? Seems to me that if you have to put filters in place to stop people sending pornographic messages through the company email then you have a lot more problems than the email system.

      I mean, anyone sending around inappropriate stuff would just be disciplined as soon as the boss sees it.

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    10. Re:Names? by socsoc · · Score: 1

      It's a tool. Misconfiguration by an admin doesn't mean it's a bad idea.

    11. Re:Names? by sjames · · Score: 1

      I imagine there will be a lot of trouble with this at Jim's Clbuttic cars.

    12. Re:Names? by WrongSizeGlass · · Score: 1

      Yeah, because THAT is the kind of stuff businesses will block. None of that silly 'do not copy' or 'confidential' stuff.

      If they go as far as to block 'do not copy' or 'confidential' I'll just have to snap a pic of the document with my phone.

    13. Re:Names? by ehrichweiss · · Score: 1

      "I mean, anyone sending around inappropriate stuff would just be disciplined as soon as the boss sees it."

      Yeah, like my secretary should be disciplined for sending those naughty pictures of herself....she's been a baaad girl and deserves a spanking..

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    14. Re:Names? by WrongSizeGlass · · Score: 1

      So if I added the company's name to their own black list I could have some fun?? Very interesting ...

    15. Re:Names? by socsoc · · Score: 1

      Didn't you get the memo? IT is supposed to enforce people doing their jobs, not "managers." But, that sounds like really poor efforts at spam filtering.

    16. Re:Names? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Or slap a post-it over the 'do not copy' notice.

    17. Re:Names? by complete+loony · · Score: 1

      Apparently that image pattern also breaks web servers...

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    18. Re:Names? by DinDaddy · · Score: 1

      Reminds me of when a friend was involved with a video shoot for the Butthole Surfers a long time ago. He got a call from a company who had completed an order for something related to the shoot, and the woman on the phone would not say which order it was as she did not want to utter the bands name. Just kept saying the surfers.

    19. Re:Names? by DinDaddy · · Score: 1

      Ours filters profanities out of subject headers. I don't really approve, but I can see why. Emails sometimes leave the company and they have the company's name in the domain.

    20. Re:Names? by KingAlanI · · Score: 1

      Sounds like something analogous to the Scunthorphe problem.

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    21. Re:Names? by jc42 · · Score: 1

      It will be interesting to see when businesses wont be able to fax, or deal with clients whose names contains those banned words ...

      And once again, the good folk of Scunthorpe in the UK will find the technology won't work in their town, and won't let people write to or about them.

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    22. Re:Names? by Count+Fenring · · Score: 1

      Well, ignoring the fact that this isn't a technology with any sort of real censorship possibilities (scanning hardware is too ubiquitous, OCR is too weak a search tool), when was the last time you saw an expensive, top-tier, recently manufactured corporate copier in a public library? I'm guessing never, because few public libraries are going to have the funds to purchase them, and even fewer would waste the funds they have on purchasing them if they come up with the money.

      The point, and only real purpose, of this technology is to prevent documents that are supposed to be confidential from being accidentally scanned. This is going to have an impact on privacy - namely, it's going to slightly enhance it, because the dumbass intern at your medical/legal/insurance provider will be prevented from faxing a document he shouldn't have to someone.

    23. Re:Names? by burisch_research · · Score: 4, Informative
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    24. Re:Names? by Miseph · · Score: 1

      The business owns the copier. Unless you mean to imply there is something illegal about not photocopying certain documents on a privately owned copier, or even something unethical about it, you're going to have a very hard time making a case for why this is terrible.

      Following that sort of opposition to its logical (and absurd) conclusion, it should be illegal and unethical for anyone to not say something which they do not believe they should say: we are all compelled to say everything possible, regardless of our actual feelings or beliefs. That poses a pretty significant problem for me, and seems to entirely subvert the very meaning of Free Speech into Compulsory Speech... not good.

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    25. Re:Names? by xclr8r · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Care to elaborate where you think this happens. Most Librarians (grade school excluded) I know adamantly preserve privacy and enable access to information and despise and fight vigorously against anything that tries to infringe on those ideals. On the other hand if a Library (particularly Universities) does not control it's own computers (i.e. separate IT dept. that doesn't answer to Library heads) then your privacy is probably not protected in the same way with regards to internet access.

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    26. Re:Names? by Zadaz · · Score: 1

      Good thing it also stops the camera in my mobile phone from taking photos of it.

      It doesn't? Ah. Glad to know it's effective then.

    27. Re:Names? by justinlee37 · · Score: 1

      Way to make a bunch of idiotic assumptions based on the article summary. The technology allows the local admin to configure the banned words; they aren't configured by Canon.

    28. Re:Names? by SharpFang · · Score: 2, Funny

      Give the printer a list of words connected with sexual activities, and make it CC any printout containing them to company-wide announce list.

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    29. Re:Names? by History's+Coming+To · · Score: 1

      Apparently Canon have just lost the entire town of Scunthorpe, UK.

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    30. Re:Names? by vlm · · Score: 1

      The business owns the copier. Unless you mean to imply there is something illegal about not photocopying certain documents on a privately owned copier, or even something unethical about it, you're going to have a very hard time making a case for why this is terrible.

      Its terrible because many businessmen are dumb, lazy, or cowards. So, to minimize legal risks, lets just ban all documents containing a (C) symbol. No problemo for most of the company, after all its 2010 and most people don't use paper or photocopiers, just like I wouldn't mind if the mimeograph machine or the reel to reel tape player broke. However, marketing now can't photocopy their own copyrighted creations for "creative meetings" or whatever they do. And that's why its terrible, it's like giving kids matches to play with, with the added benefit that the IT dept is going to bear the brunt of the user fury.

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    31. Re:Names? by Z00L00K · · Score: 1

      What a pain in the butt it would be for Brad Pitt trying to copy something with his name on with a copier configured for Swedish.

      Pitt == Dick...

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    32. Re:Names? by betterunixthanunix · · Score: 1

      So libraries have out of date equipment, how does that help? That just means that this technology won't actually make it into libraries for a decade or so, not that it will never make it there.

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    33. Re:Names? by John+Hasler · · Score: 1

      However, marketing now can't photocopy their own copyrighted creations for "creative meetings" or whatever they do.

      So some organizations will screw up the first time they try to use this and have to change their policies. I don't see how that qualifies as "terrible".

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    34. Re:Names? by Xacid · · Score: 1

      That just sounds like more work for me, the admin, in the end. No thanks.

    35. Re:Names? by kellyb9 · · Score: 1

      Even better... if it would take words like "a" in it and replace them with some of the blocked words.

    36. Re:Names? by Compaqt · · Score: 1

      Hey, that image also blocks my browser from displaying it!

      >Use something that will print the constellation and print up a ream of paper.

      And then use something that won't copy the constellation when you don't want to make copies.

      Then use something that will copy the constellation when you do want to make copies. :)

      Seriously, though, thanks for the info, I never knew about this particular mark before.

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    37. Re:Names? by darnkitten · · Score: 1

      Yeah--That was what the FBI claimed during the PATRIOT Act reauthorization hearings, at the same time the Connecticut librarians were in court fighting the NSLs they had been given by the FBI. Oddly enough, the FBI lifted the gag order on the librarians only after the Act had been reauthorized. - https://www.nytimes.com/2006/05/31/nyregion/31library.html

  4. First entry in the blocked database... by seanvaandering · · Score: 4, Funny

    Canon sucks

    1. Re:First entry in the blocked database... by DeathElk · · Score: 1

      I disagree. I think they're great.

    2. Re:First entry in the blocked database... by Osgeld · · Score: 1

      I disagree more, they suck

      surely they will have the schools and other public sources of stupidity in mind and give out a predefined blacklist with product, do we really need a company giving us a censor list

      Apple has not even gone that far (but give them a little more time)

      never mind they offer dumb products to dumb people, like the very nice laser printer copier fax machine my company just purchased, that doesn't scan ...

        (even though all the bits are in place at a nice premium price and even more premium toner cost)

  5. It's not exactly aimed at profanity by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    FTA: "a prohibited keyword, such as a client name or project codename."

    Sounds more like a security tool than a censorship tool. (Yes, it could be used for cens

  6. From the "don't give them any ideas" dept. by bughunter · · Score: 4, Interesting

    All a publisher would have to do is to embed a code or passphrase or optical pattern on the pages of their copyrighted publication and then arrange with manufacturers such as Canon or Xerox not to duplicate those pages. The pattern could be a watermark in the background of the content, defeating attempts to obscure it with a post-it not or some such.

    I predict a huge demand for older, dumber photocopiers.

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    1. Re:From the "don't give them any ideas" dept. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      They already do this for money. It's called the EURion constellation.

    2. Re:From the "don't give them any ideas" dept. by Jah-Wren+Ryel · · Score: 2, Interesting

      They already do this for money. It's called the EURion constellation.

      Many copiers are known to shutdown permanently - as in require a visit from the repairman (who will probably report you to the secret service or equivalent anti-money-counterfeiting police in your country) - when presented with that pattern.

      It's just begging for mischief makers to abuse by putting the pattern on all sorts of regular documents.

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    3. Re:From the "don't give them any ideas" dept. by GrumblyStuff · · Score: 1

      Fingertip tattoos?

    4. Re:From the "don't give them any ideas" dept. by socsoc · · Score: 1

      This is set up by a local admin, it's not global prevention on every machine they produce. Although copying US currency will usually result in bizarre output, it isn't the same.

    5. Re:From the "don't give them any ideas" dept. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

      They already do this for money. It's called the EURion constellation.

      Many copiers are known to shutdown permanently - as in require a visit from the repairman (who will probably report you to the secret service or equivalent anti-money-counterfeiting police in your country) - when presented with that pattern.

      It's just begging for mischief makers to abuse by putting the pattern on all sorts of regular documents.

      You just can't make an allegation like that without presenting a citation or link to a list of copiers known to behave in such a manner.

      How are we to know which copiers we can brea^H^H^H^Havoid breaking?

    6. Re:From the "don't give them any ideas" dept. by Jah-Wren+Ryel · · Score: 1

      You just can't make an allegation like that without presenting a citation or link to a list of copiers known to behave in such a manner.

      Sorry, its been nearly a decade since I read a couple of reports / confirmations from some people who claimed to have seen it happen at kinkos or a similar place.
      It was probably on risks digest, but I'm not totally sure.

      I did find one report that Ikon copiers log the attempts and their service techs are required to report it back to Ikon (who presumably reports it to the secret service) as part of routine service calls - but apparently that doesn't shut down the copier, just incriminates the owner.

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    7. Re:From the "don't give them any ideas" dept. by houghi · · Score: 1

      Copiers already have the ability to not copy money or at least copy it in such a way that it can't be used. It is also pretty trivial to go around the chip that does this, so if that is the purpose, it will be a big fail.

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    8. Re:From the "don't give them any ideas" dept. by Ogi_UnixNut · · Score: 5, Informative

      I personally can attest to what the parent said. Back while I was a sysadmin at my old job, I read about the yellow-dot markings that were sneaked into all sorts of printers and copiers for detection, and in some cases, for prevention of copying.

      While reading about this, we came across the knowledge that banknotes had these yellow markings on them, so on a slow Friday we decided to test it out. We stuck a 20GBP note into the machine and hit copy. It promptly jammed and said it needed an engineer to come service it immediately.

      As it was a small company and I was their go-to guy for just about everything, I already knew how to fix it, so I did it myself rather than calling an engineer.

      Thinking it was a coincidence, we ran more tests. The machine would run fine for hundreds of copies, but would jam every single time you tried to copy the banknote, without exception. It really seemed like it was deliberately jamming itself.

      If memory serves me correctly, it was a Toshiba colour copier, but if you want to find out if your copier also does the same, just stick a banknote in it. (UK ones are rejected, but probably others are as well).

      I remember thinking how sneaky it was of them. Rather than telling you that they refuse the action you requested, they jam the machine. I don't know if the engineer would rat you out when he came round to fix it (as we didn't call one) but it is known that the machine will generally hold the last few things copied in memory (I presume to aid debugging of issues).

      P.S Sorry for any typo's etc... typing this on my phone.

    9. Re:From the "don't give them any ideas" dept. by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      The problem, of course, being that there's plenty of legitimate reasons to make a copy of one side of a bill. I have clearly not looked into what the restrictions are in the EU, but often you can make a full-size copy of one side of a bill as long as you overmark it with "sample" or similar; further, at least in the USA, you can make single-sided copies of money without alteration if you scale the image. Do these copiers somehow take your rights into account?

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    10. Re:From the "don't give them any ideas" dept. by Compaqt · · Score: 1

      Why did they need to make the copier shut down just to avoid making a copy? (Especially B&W.)

      I'd think it would be better to print some text like "DOCUMENT COPY" in dot matrix across the copy.

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    11. Re:From the "don't give them any ideas" dept. by RealGrouchy · · Score: 1

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EURion_constellation

      Among other similar copy-protection features on banknotes.

      - RG>

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    12. Re:From the "don't give them any ideas" dept. by djdanlib · · Score: 1

      Many copiers are known to shutdown permanently - as in require a visit from the repairman (who will probably report you to the secret service or equivalent anti-money-counterfeiting police in your country) - when presented with that pattern.

      Did you read that somewhere online? If so, can I see it too? I wonder which copiers do that, because I had the same idea you did - someone could really cause me a lot of hassles if they did that to the documents I print. (Use it for your Outlook stationery, and business letterhead! Embed it in your purchase orders! Draw it on your driver's license!)

      I'm pretty sure the Constellation has to be a certain size or it doesn't work, though.

  7. Social Problem by rockNme2349 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    You're doing it wrong. If there's anything I've learned in dealing with people, it is never try to create a technical solution to a social problem. If someone wants to make a copy of some secret document, they will quickly learn that the copiers have this software installed and will use a different machine. You need to figure out why they would want to make copies of something you don't want them to, and solve that problem. I could see this being marginally useful for preventing accidental release of information, however the article seems to state that they are trying to stop deliberate users.

    A determined user who has guessed the prohibited keyword could get around it by simply substituting numbers or other characters for letters, such as z00 instead of zoo, representatives for Canon conceded.

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    1. Re:Social Problem by betterunixthanunix · · Score: 1

      Or they will do something even worse, like posting the document on their publicly accessible webpage or something equally bad.

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    2. Re:Social Problem by couchslug · · Score: 1

      "If someone wants to make a copy of some secret document, they will quickly learn that the copiers have this software installed and will use a different machine. "

      Or a digital camera, which can fit nicely in a cigarette pack...

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    3. Re:Social Problem by Asclepius99 · · Score: 1

      It seems like this technology's usefulness went out the window years ago whenever nearly everyone started carrying cellphones with cameras around with them at work. A notice was posted at my work with the address and directions for where we were having an office party last year, so instead of writing it down I just snapped a picture with my phone. And when I pulled it up later it was easy to read on my phone, and I bet it would have been even easier to read if I had pulled it up on my computer. Anyone that has enough time to copy a document can probably snap a few pictures, getting at least the most important information from it.

    4. Re:Social Problem by colinrichardday · · Score: 1

      A package that can hold about 10-20 cigarettes (I'm not a smoker), as opposed to a carton, which holds about twenty packs.

    5. Re:Social Problem by 1729 · · Score: 1

      It seems like this technology's usefulness went out the window years ago whenever nearly everyone started carrying cellphones with cameras around with them at work.

      The kind of places that are trying to prevent certain documents from being copied probably already prohibit cell phones and cameras. Where I work, cell phones and virtually all other personally-owned electronic devices must be left outside of the buildings.

    6. Re:Social Problem by westlake · · Score: 1

      You need to figure out why they would want to make copies of something you don't want them to, and solve that problem.

      "Why?" is a trivially easy question to answer.

      The "why" is ego, money, power or revenge.

      You could be the Batman. But more likely you are the Joker. Your boss doesn't give a damn one way or the other.

      He solves the problem through psychological testing and a deep background check - before the hire.

      Every post to Slashdot, every appearance you made on Facebook or YouTube gets vetted.

      He solves the problem by video surveillance that begins from the moment you pull into the parking lot.

      He solves the problem by shit-canning the first goof-off caught smuggling a laptop, camera or smartphone past the front lobby.

       

    7. Re:Social Problem by Shihar · · Score: 1

      Meh, I think this can be used in an entirely appropriate way to solve a social problem. Anyone who says technology doesn't solves social problems had has had their eyes closed for the past span of human civilization. If a company sets a copy machine to not copy a certain "this is secret, do not copy" logo or seal, it will go a long way to solving most innocent violations of rules.

      It is like a shitty bike lock. Is a shitty bike lock going to prevent anyone who wants to steal your bike from stealing it? No, but it will stop your bike from being stolen 99% of the time. People are lazy and opportunistic. Someone who wouldn't normally steal a bike will steal one if they see one without a lock. Throw eve the most shitty low grade lock on, and only people out to steal bikes will bother to steal it.

      If I want to copy the secret document, it is pretty trivial to circumvent. Just slap a post-it note over the logo. That said, if I go to copy something confidential and have no nefarious intentions, if the copy machine tells me to screw off and says it sent a letter to the boss, I will probably back off. A little light will click in your head and you will think, "gee, I guess they are serious about this rule". Compliance with the rule will shoot up to almost total compliance because to circumvent the machine you are going to have to very intentionally break the rule and circumvent some shitty protection preventing you from doing so. There probably are places where something like this makes sense. Some records are sensitive either by their nature or by the law (like in medical records). This would probably help people actually comply with the rule.

    8. Re:Social Problem by Compaqt · · Score: 1

      What you say is definitely true. But for places that want multiple levels of security, they might want to avoid you copying a 200-page document, which would be hard to copy quickly and inconspicuously with your camera.

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    9. Re:Social Problem by DragonWriter · · Score: 1

      The kind of places that are trying to prevent certain documents from being copied probably already prohibit cell phones and cameras.

      The kind of places that are trying to prevent certain documents from being copied and that already prohibit cell phones and cameras generally already have access controls on the documents that need special security and keep them in a secure location from which they aren't allowed to be removed (and with physical inspections to prevent that.) Simply not having a copier in that area deals with the problem, whereas keyword based security on copiers that stops copies while routing to a human administrator is a brain-dead solution that is going to produce waste because no conceivable setup is both going to work and avoid substantial false positives.

      Further, if you don't control where the originals go, people that want to make copies are just going to take them out of the area under your control and then return them.

      This is an expensive and unreliable technical solution to a problem for which there are existing superior and less expensive solutions. Still, they'll probably sell to lots of managers in places that don't currently exercise serious controls that haven't analyzed the issue and that can be sold on the idea that this will be a "magic bullet" that will enable them to have control.

    10. Re:Social Problem by djdanlib · · Score: 1

      ... or a watch, or even a pen. Don't forget those highlighter-pen-style scanners that store for later. Haven't been to thinkgeek.com in a few years?

      The real question is, how good of a camera can you shrink down to that size? Can you take legible pictures of documents in office lighting without using flash or a tripod and copy stand? This is where most pocket cameras fail.

  8. Keep those Confidential Memos confidential by Flyskippy1 · · Score: 1

    I imagine the first terms to be added could be something like "Company Confidential, Do Not Copy" or "Sensitive Business Information".

    That said, copiers already block copying of certain patterns, such as US currency. With a little trial and error it's not hard to figure out exactly what on the dollar bill is being matched. Just add it to your documents, and no body will even be able to print them. (Careful, as some brands of printers will lock themselves and require a service call after you try to copy money.)

    1. Re:Keep those Confidential Memos confidential by DragonWriter · · Score: 1

      I imagine the first terms to be added could be something like "Company Confidential, Do Not Copy" or "Sensitive Business Information".

      If the originals themselves aren't closely controlled, this is easily evaded by simply removing the originals, copying them elsewhere, and returning them.

      If the originals are tightly controlled, this is superfluous, because the control on the originals can simply be used to keep them in a location where there isn't a copy machine.

  9. Stupidity by Daimanta · · Score: 4, Insightful

    "The system can optionally inform the user by email that their attempt has been blocked, but without identifying the keyword in question, maintaining the security of the system."

    Until the user decides to compare his blocked page with blocked pages from other letters or does a binary search for the forbidden word. Glad they thought this through.

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    1. Re:Stupidity by betterunixthanunix · · Score: 1

      Most people are not technically proficient/clever enough to do any of that. They'll just post the document on their personal webpage or Facebook profile or something.

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    2. Re:Stupidity by EboMike · · Score: 1

      Binary search would be fine, except that "The server will email the administrator a PDF copy of the document in question if a user attempts to do so". It might look a tad bit suspicious if the user keeps trying to make copies of the same document with different parts blacked out.

    3. Re:Stupidity by John+Hasler · · Score: 1

      It obviously isn't intended to block spies: just the usual oblivious doofus.

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    4. Re:Stupidity by Osgeld · · Score: 1

      how many admins are the sales guy that knew how to hook computer to router though?

  10. Its like router filters the *admin* sets by stimpleton · · Score: 4, Informative

    From TFA: "The latest version of Uniflow has a keyword-based security system. Once configured by an administrator, the system can prevent a user from attempting to print, scan, copy or fax a document containing a prohibited keyword, such as a client name or project codename."

    So its not some Canon thing where they think some words shouldnt be used. You know, dirty words like Bottom or Crevice.

    The internal admin can set the words. Its like a silent alarm really. No different to a corporate spam filter with words added to a blacklist by an admin.

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    1. Re:Its like router filters the *admin* sets by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      It's basically a data loss prevention product. See a string of numbers that looks like a credit card or SSN? Sorry, you're not allowed to print/copy/fax that. Contact your security admin/supervisor to explain why you need to print employee socials and how you plan to safeguard/eventually dispose of that information.

      I can see this being very useful for shops that have to deal with PCI or PII laws.

    2. Re:Its like router filters the *admin* sets by Cussin_IT · · Score: 1

      That's it: it's all up to the admin. Untill Cannon decides that all admins are stupid/ unAmerican/ terrorists/ all of the above.

      And don't forget all of the hardcoded keywords that'll be in there for the goverment (RRIA) to track terrorists (don't think they won't be there, as soon as politicans see this they'll make it illegal to sell without somthing they can use to spy on their populations).

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  11. Parsing Error by zooblethorpe · · Score: 1

    How long until ... your boss becomes the thing of the future!

    Egads! I hope that doesn't happen. I don't hold anything against the man, but that's precisely the point. Now, if I worked one department over, for that lovely 30-something woman, I wouldn't mind so much. :D

    Cheers,

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    "A four-foot prune."
  12. unplug LAN? by MoFoQ · · Score: 1

    what happens if you unplug the LAN cord?

    1. Re:unplug LAN? by arth1 · · Score: 1

      An excilent idear.
      I have only one tiny problem with it. How do you plan of printing to it from your work station?

      It's called a crossover cable.

      Better yet, hook it up to a standalone NIC on a cups server. Everybody can print, and nothing gets out from the printer.

    2. Re:unplug LAN? by MoFoQ · · Score: 1

      As one reader already pointed out....xover cable FTW

      or....like with many modern printer/copiers...you can print from USB drives or other media.

      And copying doesn't need network connectivity....

      and for those nay-sayers who say it'll store it on it's internal hard drive....many printer/copier companies have been getting flak for storing things on the hard drive.
      Many if not all have released tools for wiping that data (or in a submenu on the unit itself.)

      And I wonder how good the OCR really is....and if it can handle the 45deg test.

  13. Simple workaround by gstrickler · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Just use CAPTCHAs for any banned words, phrases, or other banned content.

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  14. Printer Virus by Greyfox · · Score: 1

    10,000 quatloos to the first printer virus that propagates from printer to printer on the network and whose only other effect is to replace the word "strategic" with the word "satanic" in any printed output!

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    1. Re:Printer Virus by SharpFang · · Score: 1

      ...can be easily overcome by using 1337 in legal documents.

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  15. Re:OCR is not a verb by preaction · · Score: 2, Funny

    Verbing weirds language.

  16. Re:Here is an idea. by betterunixthanunix · · Score: 1

    This has nothing to do with the FCC. I think this is a terrible idea too, but this is not the FCC doing anything. This is bad because it opens the door for all sorts of abuses, not because the abuses have happened yet.

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  17. Wingdings by langelgjm · · Score: 1

    Joke's on you, Canon! I print out all my important documents in Wingdings...

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  18. say what? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny
  19. Moist by Ranger · · Score: 1

    better not be on that list.

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  20. How to abuse this system by masterwit · · Score: 1

    How to abuse this system (and possibly get fired)
    Step 1: Find some known banned words that are not easily noticed
    Step 2: Get access to coworker's Microsoft Word.
    Step 3: Set Auto-correct to change similar spelled words to these banned words.
    Step 4: Don't get caught.

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  21. Devil's advocate by adenied · · Score: 1

    Censorship == bad but...

    If you have access to one of these machines at work and you can't copy something, maybe there's a good reason for it. If it's hindering your job, go up the chain (painful perhaps but such is life). If you're doing it for personal reasons, maybe you should go to a copy shop.

    If you're the nefarious type, photograph the pages and print them elsewhere.

    If you own the copier, you control the keywords.

    I'm looking at this from the employer perspective. I'm purposely not looking at the copyrighted work angle. Though I have to say this doesn't seem to be aimed at that. Doesn't seem like a huge YRO issue though. But maybe someone can come up with some alternate arguments.

  22. Wow, do any of you people have jobs? by JoeZeppy · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This has nothing to do with foul language and everything to do with people walking out the door with account numbers, medical records, credit card info, social security numbers and other valuable private information.

    1. Re:Wow, do any of you people have jobs? by XnavxeMiyyep · · Score: 1

      Wow, do any of you people have jobs?

      Hi, welcome to Slashdot! You must be new here!

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    2. Re:Wow, do any of you people have jobs? by Osgeld · · Score: 1

      yea I could never think of a reason I would need to make a copy of an internal account number in a company setting

    3. Re:Wow, do any of you people have jobs? by rubycodez · · Score: 1

      +5 insightful??? please do tell how the copier distinguishes between the copy of the medical record for the insurance company, and the one going out the door to the identity thief.

      your assertion is nonsense.

    4. Re:Wow, do any of you people have jobs? by JoeZeppy · · Score: 1

      I'll be sure to mention that to our corporate information security folks. Can they call you if they need advice?

    5. Re:Wow, do any of you people have jobs? by Buelldozer · · Score: 1

      Yet it will do almost nothing to stop the behavior you list.

      Print to PDF and copy to jump drive or email it offsite and print it somewhere else. Take the printout to the fax machine and copy it there. Print to fax and send it an offsite number. I can think of a dozen ways around this and so will anyone else who wants the information.

    6. Re:Wow, do any of you people have jobs? by Kanasta · · Score: 1

      because you give people you don't trust with this info the originals and access to a photocopier.
      luckily, they are not able to take a photo with their phone, copy the info by hand, or simply walk out the door with the originals, otherwise it would make this tech totally stupid.

    7. Re:Wow, do any of you people have jobs? by rubycodez · · Score: 1

      if they're any good at all they can find out who I am and contact me.

      I'm waiting.

  23. Apologetically Enthusiastic by LordHatrus · · Score: 2, Insightful

    This is not a privacy issue; there is little expectation of privacy in a workplace when using company property anyway. I personally feel this would be a nice help; imagine working for a government contractor and having having software automatically raise flags when someone copies documents with "DO NOT COPY" or "CONFIDENTIAL" in the OCR text. This is somewhat useful.

    1. Re:Apologetically Enthusiastic by Cussin_IT · · Score: 1

      This is exactly what I thought too.
      Right up untill the cinic part of my brian said : "anti terrorist tool". And then I had visions of anyone printing the word 'quaran' being dragged off under the patriot act after the printer phoned home.

      I'm sorry to say it, but to me it looks a lot more like a clandesdine tool for the goverment to get rid of people they don't like. Even if it didn't start out that way I imagine it ending that way.

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  24. V14GR4 by Compuser · · Score: 1

    Oh shit, so now regular people are going to start writing like spammers to avoid filters.
    Great! Now how am I going to tell spam from valid emails? Thanks a lot Canon!

  25. Re:slashdot's still here! by The+Living+Fractal · · Score: 1

    This is not slashdot. You've entered into an alternate universe, where things are slightly different, such as the word "cannon" being spelled "canon".

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  26. Slashtards by RaymondKurzweil · · Score: 1

    And yet none of the technology to implement this is ground breaking or terribly new, and its just integrating a couple things. It's just another feature on the datasheet that any programmer given a decent OCR system (something anybody could buy for years, let alone Canon) and an OS capable of sending email could implement in a few minutes.

    I expect the general population to be wowed by this magic.

    I also like how this becomes Evil once a large company decides to put a price on it and make whoever wants it pay for it.

  27. Exciting? by fahrbot-bot · · Score: 1

    will include the exciting breakthrough technology

    I must have a different understanding of this context unless by "exciting breakthrough" they mean "censorship breakthrough", then I get it.

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  28. Re:My Rights? by LordLimecat · · Score: 1

    This is slashdot, dude. Any time a new technology comes out that allows "the man" to block something, everyone dons a tinfoil hat and speculates on how US gov't will team up with China, South Korea, and zombie Hitler to suppress our freedoms.

  29. More fear and control. by Fantastic+Lad · · Score: 1

    Just another brick in the wall.

    -FL

  30. Re:My Rights? by LordLimecat · · Score: 1

    s/South/North/

  31. Re:why have a easy DOS attack build in by sjames · · Score: 1

    If you do figure out what feature triggers the lockout and then alter it so that it's not actually the bill any more but still triggers the lockout, you can spread copy center havoc without breaking the law at all.

  32. Sitting on it by Tablizer · · Score: 1

    So the days of mooning a copier are over. Goatse will probably trigger a 911 call.

  33. Re:slashdot's still here! by DeathElk · · Score: 2

    Canon Inc. has nothing to do with cannon. Also, Canon is a word in it's own right.

  34. Yay I get to be a pedantic troll! by MobileTatsu-NJG · · Score: 1

    Canon Blocks Copy Jobs Using Banned Keywords

    If the keywords are banned, how can you use them to do any copy blocking?

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  35. At least I'll have the fun of watching the HR dept by apparently · · Score: 1
    trying to figure out why they can't copy their memo regarding the new safety measures they put in place to prevent the copying of Company Confidential documents.

    I imagine the first terms to be added could be something like "Company Confidential, Do Not Copy" or "Sensitive Business Information".

  36. Keep your secret words secret! by Culture20 · · Score: 1

    Just tell Canon what they are...

  37. Filtering is wonderful by Turmoyl · · Score: 1

    The Human Resource Director goes to photocopy the new Employee Handbook, which contains this entry:

    "No computer, physical mailings or any other media shall contain or promote pornography (including but not limited to child pornography and bestiality). Any violation of this policy will be dealt with severely and quickly, and could result in termination."

    The copy job is denied and simply goes away. The Director doesn't know why her job didn't complete so she tries it again, and again a 3rd time before moving on to a different copier.

    The Network Administrator receives this email message, pre-marked as high priority:

    "ATTENTION ADMINISTRATOR: IMMEDIATE ACTION REQUIRED!

    User 'HR Dir' is a sadomasochistic, highly active and prolific peddler of child, farm animal and pet pornography as well as snuff films, and publicly declares their issues with premature ejaculation and poor sexual performance. CLICK HERE to notify your local law enforcement agencies."

  38. Tianemen Square, Tibet, Dali Lama by gurps_npc · · Score: 3, Insightful

    will be some of the first 'banned words', I bet. Only in Chinese, not English.

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  39. Re:why have a easy DOS attack build in by burisch_research · · Score: 1

    I think you will find that malicious damage is rather well covered under the law.

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  40. Re:slashdot's still here! by pyrrho · · Score: 1

    what the hell difference would that make?

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  41. hey 1337 is my UID # here on slashdot! by mikeskup · · Score: 1

    cool 1337 is my UID # i was assigned here on slashdot!

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  42. Re:why have a easy DOS attack build in by sjames · · Score: 1

    Malice can be hard to prove, especially when the fact that a copier will bug out if you try to copy money isn't all that well publicized.

  43. A word from the Vendor if I may by Dan+B. · · Score: 4, Interesting

    This has nothing to do with foul language and everything to do with people walking out the door with account numbers, medical records, credit card info, social security numbers and other valuable private information.

    Yes, this is true.

    Although I don't know why this is "Breaking News" considering it has been offered on Xerox products for over 3 years.
    And I should know, we sell this stuff to government departments purely based on the security we can offer them.

    It might be easy to hand write the details off the screen for circumvention, but that is only going to net you a small data set. These systems are designend to stop people walking off with entire client databases and that type of thing. In the governemnt, it's more about keyword 'flagging' that sends the MIB to your desk on very short notice.

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    1. Re:A word from the Vendor if I may by Osgeld · · Score: 1

      These systems are designend to stop people walking off with entire client databases and that type of thing.

      sorry, but who prints out an entire client database and photocopies it, if they have access to it surely in 2010 there is easier ways to transfer data from a computer to a computer

      if they have access to small tidbits of information that grants them access to the system they can just as easily write it down for the same effect

      and Xerox? aren't they one of the companies selling photocopiers that store a crapton of scans in an internal system, then when they are obsolete the "MIB" ship the fucker off to china for "recycling" without even knowing?

      http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/04/19/eveningnews/main6412439.shtml

      A word from the Vendor if I may

      no, as a word from the consumer, either be responsible and make sure everyone knows what your systems exactly do and the dangers of them, or B make a standard dumb machine and mind your own bees wax

    2. Re:A word from the Vendor if I may by im_thatoneguy · · Score: 2, Insightful

      no, as a word from the consumer, either be responsible and make sure everyone knows what your systems exactly do and the dangers of them, or B make a standard dumb machine and mind your own bees wax

      You aren't the consumer. The person who bough the copier in part because of this advertised feature is the consumer. You're just a user. A user who doesn't need to know there are security protocols to protect customer information. The people who need to know about the feature I'm sure are well aware of it.

    3. Re:A word from the Vendor if I may by CrashandDie · · Score: 1

      It might be easy to hand write the details off the screen for circumvention, but that is only going to net you a small data set. These systems are designend to stop people walking off with entire client databases and that type of thing. In the governemnt, it's more about keyword 'flagging' that sends the MIB to your desk on very short notice.

      I guess that instead of writing it down, or copying 500 pages worth of documents that might get me noticed as I walk out of the door on my last, I'll just have to... Hmm, I dunno, encrypt it and email it? Drop it on an FTP? Drop it on an SSH box on port 443? Heck, USB-dongle it? Burn it on a CD?

      Funny part is, FTP, USB dongle or CD burning will probably be blocked, and email might be monitored; however SSL webmail or random SSL website won't (FWIW: I spent some time at the Australian Department of Transport, and webmail was freely accessible, as soon as someone signed off about you getting internet access).

    4. Re:A word from the Vendor if I may by DragonWriter · · Score: 1

      It might be easy to hand write the details off the screen for circumvention, but that is only going to net you a small data set. These systems are designend to stop people walking off with entire client databases and that type of thing.

      Photocopying is, while more efficient than handwriting, orders of magnitude below the most efficient method of copying off entire client databases.

      And, of course, having this feature on your photocopier adds no security at all unless you have physical security on the original documents sufficient to solve the problem without any technical features on photocopiers in the first place.

      All it is is an expensive way to get the illusion of security.
       

    5. Re:A word from the Vendor if I may by JoeZeppy · · Score: 1

      Not here. Everything goes through a proxy, all webmail sites are blocked, as is FTP to anywhere not specifically opened up through the firewall. The only things opened outbound is http and https. I've heard of tunneling ssh over port 443 to get out, but it's not something I'd want to bet a felony conviction on.

    6. Re:A word from the Vendor if I may by Mal-2 · · Score: 2, Informative

      It might be easy to hand write the details off the screen for circumvention, but that is only going to net you a small data set. These systems are designend to stop people walking off with entire client databases and that type of thing. In the governemnt, it's more about keyword 'flagging' that sends the MIB to your desk on very short notice.

      It also does nothing to keep you from using your phone to take a picture of the screen -- something I have done when the machine coughs up a BSOD.

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  44. I'm actually ok with this by stinky+wizzleteats · · Score: 1
    I already have my proposed list of ban keywords:
    • jesus
    • god
    • church
    • prayer
    • devotional
    • scouting
    • fundraiser
    • teaparty
    • something that will catch sports betting pools
  45. Re:Here is an idea. by AlamedaStone · · Score: 1

    A mature adult should be able to tolerate some inappropriate language.

    "Of course, of course," said Dr. Hardrum, "but my dear lady, what about the children?"

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  46. What if you copy at an angle? by justthinkit · · Score: 1

    What if you copy at an angle? Can it still OCR that?

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  47. Re:slashdot's still here! by matria · · Score: 1

    And that is a classic misuse of it's.

  48. Re:My Rights? by VoidCrow · · Score: 1

    You mean they *won't*?

    Hooray!

    *does the dance of joy*

  49. Whip out y'r Minox and rejoice by knarf · · Score: 1

    Pfah, any spy worth his salt uses a camera. No traces, no helpful copier logs, no meddlesome Canon OCR gadgetry.

    That out of the way it seems clear this trickery is not so much aimed at blocking espionage - which it won't - but more at keeping you from copying your course books. And that, dear reader, is why I keep my trusty HP 5200C in its cozy box up on the attic, ready to scan that what is deemed improper by the powers that be at my whim. It also helps that the thing is nigh indestructible and will probably outlive my machines with the required USB1 connectors.

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  50. Is this blacklist stored on the copier HDD? by L4t3r4lu5 · · Score: 1

    That sure would make it a very appealing target for industrial espionage.

    "What was on that disk, Bob?"
    "Just some random words! 'Korea' 'Supply' 'Refining technology' 'Nuclear' 'Weapons' and some other things about presidents and sexual favours from secretaries."
    "Hmmm..."

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  51. Oh no by conscarcdr · · Score: 1

    You don't want China to know this.

  52. uh-huh by CarpetShark · · Score: 1

    "The article notes that simply using 1337 for example will get around it."

    That'll work well.

    "To all staff: this is to inform you that your boss has been 1337ing you in the ass, and 1337ing all the credit for your hard work. Please see http://1337/ for the evidence.

    Yours faithfully,

    Your 1337 Union Representative"

  53. Re:lazy developers by CarpetShark · · Score: 1

    Because then anything with a model number might be excluded.

  54. The right to copy trade secrets by Compaqt · · Score: 1

    While I'm not disagreeing that some whiners will attempt a lawsuit, it's just amazing that such are entertained at all.

    Specified personnel get notified when a user attempts to copy something marked "Confidential-Not to be copied"? Cry me a river of privacy-emitting penumbras.

    The feature is not going to be activated when people copy their boring love letters written in cursive, but why are they bringing those to work, anyway?

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  55. "Yellow Dots" MICT and EURion constellation by plcurechax · · Score: 1

    This is more about printers, mostly colour printers I believe, but it is a related technology as far as I know.

    About EURion constellation and bank notes:

  56. Re:OCR is not a verb by witherby · · Score: 1

    Maybe eventually we can make language a complete impediment to understanding.

  57. I've got a better list to save trees! by freaker_TuC · · Score: 1

    This might work better and will be working more efficiently towards our environment:

    • Meeting
    • Tax Reduction
    • Lawyer
    • Planning
    • Efficient
    • Watercooler
    • Order
    • Upper Management
    • Fax
    • Urgent

    I want to bet, that company will be having a very ergonomic usage of paper.

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  58. Re:Here is an idea. by aristotle-dude · · Score: 1

    A mature adult should be able to tolerate some inappropriate language.

    "Of course, of course," said Dr. Hardrum, "but my dear lady, what about the children?"

    It is up to the parents of the child to raise that child, not other corporations, the FCC or any other government agency unless if they are wards of the state.

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  59. Re:Here is an idea. by AlamedaStone · · Score: 1

    A mature adult should be able to tolerate some inappropriate language.

    "Of course, of course," said Dr. Hardrum, "but my dear lady, what about the children?"

    It is up to the parents of the child to raise that child, not other corporations, the FCC or any other government agency unless if they are wards of the state.

    I'm sorry, I should have been less cryptic. I agree with you, I was just pointing out the tired old excuse of Thinking of the Children.

    I think people who ring that bell may be trying to protect their own childish insecurities, but I don't think there's a short-term way to drag them kicking and/or screaming into adulthood.

    I like to believe that newer generations are less prone to the echo chamber, as technology allows for easier access to pluralism - but that may just be my own naive idealism.

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  60. Re:If you could walk out with a stack of papers... by JoeZeppy · · Score: 1

    Yep, we've got software that keeps you from writing to USB drives, that watches what you save to your hard drive, scans your email for keywords in case you try to mail confidential info home, network software that checks every PC that attaches to the network to make sure all of the other software is installed and up to date. Grabbing a paper copy off your managers desk and Xeroxing it is about the only thing you can do if you want to steal company data.

  61. Re:OCR is not a verb by mcgrew · · Score: 1

    It's a notably cromulent verb!

    Seriously, though, new words are coined all the time and often need to be. What else would you call running text through an OCR program?

  62. This worries me by aklinux · · Score: 1

    If it can email it to your supervisor, it can send things other places as well. I hadn't thought about this aspect of it before, but the Xerox copiers in my office will scan to an email & do ocr if requested. It is likely perfectly capable of being programmed to do exactly this already, just take a minor upgrade of the software. This is assuming it isn't already doing this.