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Thief Posts His Photo To Facebook Victim's Account

An anonymous reader writes "Washington Post reporter Marc Fisher discovered his house had been burgled; money, a winter coat, an iPod and his son's laptop were stolen. Imagine his surprise when Facebook friends of his 15-year-old son reported that a photo of the apparent thief, wearing Fisher's coat and holding a wad of notes, had been uploaded to his son's Facebook account. How addicted do you have to be to a social network to post a status update and upload your photo *while* you're burgling someone's house?"

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  1. Just more extreme by Toe,+The · · Score: 2

    There was a /. story a few months ago about a burglar who got busted because he used the victim's PC to check his FB status. But it is a new level of stupidity (arrogance? weirdness?) to go ahead and post a pic of yourself.

    What's next, posting to the victim's wall before you break in? Maybe to the police's wall too?

    1. Re:Just more extreme by Hognoxious · · Score: 1, Troll

      If that happened in the UK the thief would sue the homeowner for invading his human privacy or some shit like that and get 50 billion quid in compensation.

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    2. Re:Just more extreme by quatin · · Score: 2, Insightful

      People who think this is stupid need to get real. This guy won't get caught. The cops aren't out on main street screening for his face. Unless he leaves his full name, birthday and SSN, the police aren't going to act on anything else. Burglary is just so low on the pecking order that they're basically ignored. Even the detectives "assigned" to this case probably have 5-6 other cases to work on.

    3. Re:Just more extreme by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

      Uh, yeah, sure. The UK is just a complete cesspit, and have you seen those darkies who've moved in next door? I don't like 'em, but it's better than them Irish. Shifty lot them Micks. Should have hung the lot of 'em after Birmingham. Just think what it'll do to the house prices if the street is full of Pakis! Someone should complain to the Daily Mail.

    4. Re:Just more extreme by sentientbeing · · Score: 3, Funny

      At BurglarCon2010, there was a Q&A panel of professional burglars to amend the RFC and petition its guild members to at least make sure the house is empty beforehand by checking FB accounts and status updates.

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    5. Re:Just more extreme by scottv67 · · Score: 1

      ...and get 50 billion quid in compensation.

      Would that be 50 thousand million quid or 50 million million quid? We've seen here on /. the importance of keeping "Metric" vs. "US" straight. :^)

    6. Re:Just more extreme by tacarat · · Score: 1

      Sure he just didn't forget to log out on the original owner's account? I can see FB getting a ticket that "my uploaded pic didn't post to my page".

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    7. Re:Just more extreme by Johnny5000 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Burglary is just so low on the pecking order that they're basically ignored. Even the detectives "assigned" to this case probably have 5-6 other cases to work on.

      Usually this is the case. There's generally not a whole lot of leads in a burglary case, so a detective might not put a lot of effort into trying to solve a hopeless case.

      However, a burglar doing something this stupid, leaving behind such a damning piece of evidence, that's the kind of case a detective would probably want to put a little effort into solving.

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    8. Re:Just more extreme by Unequivocal · · Score: 2

      Yeah - great point. Thief was much smarter to post this photo on the victim's facebook page than on his own!

    9. Re:Just more extreme by croddy · · Score: 4, Funny

      Leads, yeah, sure. I'll just check with the boys down at the crime lab, they've got four more detectives working on the case. They got us working in shifts! Leads...

    10. Re:Just more extreme by TaoPhoenix · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Wouldn't this be an assignment for Anonymous?

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    11. Re:Just more extreme by DarkOx · · Score: 1

      Right burglary is considered a very serious crime, because of the potential for someone to get hurt or killed if the victim turns out to be home, its also usual done at night (must be done at night to meet some definitions of burglary) when people are usually home. Society wants people to feel safe in their homes as well which is another reason the crime is punished so strongly even when little of value is taken.

      Most of the reason these cases are not solved as you say is often there is pretty little for a detective to work with. A picture of someone you know is probably both local and school aged though is a pretty easy lead to run down. All the cops got to do is stake out the local high schools for a while and they can probably nab this guy.

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    12. Re:Just more extreme by MonChrMe · · Score: 1

      I beg to differ : Most burglars are repeat offenders, and known to the police already. All it takes is one of the local police officers to recognise the guy and they *will* arrest him, since he was stupid enough to leave a calling card. They don't even need to investigate this one, just arrest him, stick him in a cell and call the prosecutors office.

    13. Re:Just more extreme by Archangel+Michael · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Stealing used to be a hanging offense, now it is "meh". And people wonder why society has gone to hell.

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    14. Re:Just more extreme by sodul · · Score: 4, Interesting

      My brother got several thousand euros worth of specialized equipment stolen from his work vehicle. The thief posted the equipment for sale online much lower than the going value. We found his name and address and told the cops. They know him as a drug addict who sells stolen goods ... nothing. The police told my brother that the best he could do was to show up at a meeting with the burglar (remember a hardcore drug addict), confront him and then call 911 (or local equivalent) after confirming the serial numbers match. French police.

    15. Re:Just more extreme by icebike · · Score: 1

      Nothing in this story suggests that the burglar even knew what he was doing. It might have been something automatically set up by the computer owner to snap a shot each time the cover is opened. Heck, maybe the son's school put that software on there.

      A wad of hundreds and a new computer. Bait!

      I wonder if there had been prior break-ins, and this was a trap intentionally set up by someone in the household? Anyone bright enough to turn on the camera, take a picture and upload it, would be bright enough NOT to do so. It seems far more likely that a few bad password attempts tripped some security routine designed to recover stolen laptops.

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    16. Re:Just more extreme by Johnny5000 · · Score: 1

      Wow.

      See, I don't have a whole lot of faith in the police in general, but from my experience and what I've heard from others, generally if you do your own detective work and put together a case like that and hand it to the police, they're probably going to do something about it, if only so they have one less open case to worry about.

      I think in the case you describe, they'd either have to be seriously lazy, seriously constrained by laws/regulations, or severely understaffed to not take advantage of a slam-dunk case like that.

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    17. Re:Just more extreme by sakasune · · Score: 1

      What's next, posting to the victim's wall before you break in? Maybe to the police's wall too?

      Washington DC Police Dept Likes This

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    18. Re:Just more extreme by Yvanhoe · · Score: 1

      And if a detective is sufficiently motivated and the victims were smart, there were probably some fingerprints on the laptop.

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    19. Re:Just more extreme by TaggartAleslayer · · Score: 3, Insightful

      It's obvious he's posing. This is not a "caught in action" shot. Nor is it likely that someone set up a routine to capture a burglar and upload the picture to their son's facebook.

      Your theory has a few holes.

      The likely explanation is greed, avarice, idiocy, and theft roll in together and stupidity comes along for the ride.

    20. Re:Just more extreme by Mister+Whirly · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Knee-jerk reactions leading to hanging people for simple theft would be an indicator, to me, that society has truly gone to hell.

      They also use to think the world was flat, and there were dragons past the edges. Sometimes changing the way a society thinks over time is not a bad thing.

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    21. Re:Just more extreme by Hognoxious · · Score: 3, Informative

      Have you been marooned on a desert island or something?

      The UK officially switched over to the short scale in 1974, the US was already on it, and everyone else can just fuck off.

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    22. Re:Just more extreme by egamma · · Score: 1

      And if a detective is sufficiently motivated and the victims were smart, there were probably some fingerprints on the laptop.

      And how can they get those fingerprints when he stole the laptop?

    23. Re:Just more extreme by diskofish · · Score: 1

      Wrong. It's not usually done at night, its done during the day when people ARE NOT HOME. Theifs want to take your crap, they don't want a confrontation.

    24. Re:Just more extreme by egamma · · Score: 1

      The reason he's a repeat offender and the reason they won't work very hard to catch him are the same -- it's catch and release policing.

      The prisons are full with "priority" offenders (like aging hippies growing pot for personal consumption) and consequently low-level burglaries, muggings, car break-ins and other small-time property crimes are almost universally plead down to gross misdemeanors and given "time served" jail sentences and some kind of probation.

      This one will probably be solved due to the publicity associated with it (an enemy will phone in a hot tip that gets him arrested), but generally speaking they won't bother tracking this guy down for what amounts to 30 days in county jail.

      Burglaries only really get "solved" when they evolve into a regional pattern and the police invest resources in catching the burglars in action.

      Really? I served on a jury this summer for an Aggravated Burglary with a deadly weapon. He received 8 years with no possibility of parole (note that the verdict was by jury, the sentence was worked out by the DA.)

    25. Re:Just more extreme by Yvan256 · · Score: 2

      It sure would, but nobody knows where to find them.

    26. Re:Just more extreme by Coren22 · · Score: 1

      They would...
      You know there is a problem when your mayor gets caught for drug offenses.

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    27. Re:Just more extreme by shadowrat · · Score: 5, Funny

      Brilliant! Now they just have to find the guy who took the laptop, get the laptop back, and dust it for prints!

    28. Re:Just more extreme by Score+Whore · · Score: 2

      Contrary to the summary and the article at retardsecurity, the picture wasn't taken at the home of the victim. The dude is a total moron. Facebook is already involved:

      Facebook is now awaiting a subpoena from D.C. police, after which the company will hand over information about when and where the burglar used my son's computer.

      So they've got his IP address. They'll get the home address from the ISP. With the slightest effort this thing would be wrapped up in a day or two.

      And he's plainly posing.

    29. Re:Just more extreme by Low+Ranked+Craig · · Score: 1

      Depends on where you live I guess. I had (presumably) a kid go through my truck and he took about $5 in change and a couple of cheap tools. The sheriff actually dusted my truck for finger prints and wrote up a report. Of course, they never caught the guy as far as I know, at least for this, but they took an interest and did investigate it. We work out of our house, so there is little opportunity for burglars to steal our stuff, but they're welcome to try. They can have their choice of 3.5" 00 buckshot, .357 magnum or SW .40. From their point of view I'd recommend the .40 - the .357 makes a very nasty exit wound and the buckshot just makes a one helluva big mess to clean up.

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    30. Re:Just more extreme by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      I wish I could mod this 'sad' or 'disheartening'.

    31. Re:Just more extreme by DrgnDancer · · Score: 2

      Actually they never really thought that. It's kind of an urban legend created by elementary and high school textbooks, but in general your point still stands (We can substitute, "They used to think the Earth was the center of the Universe"). Columbus was actually sailing on an invalid assumption and his detractors were right. Both knew the world was round, but Columbus thought it was considerably smaller than it actually was. He expected to reach Asia in relatively short order. How else would a reasonably skill navigator think he'd gotten to India after such a short trip? He knew knew roughly how far he'd gone; but he had no idea how far he still needed to go.

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    32. Re:Just more extreme by wgoodman · · Score: 1

      One night some drunk twat ran into my car. The next day, the neighbor girl who he had been dropping off came over and told me what happened. She came to the police station with me, gave them his name, phone number etc, signed a witness statement. They said unless she had the license plate # handy they weren't going to do anything. How hard is it to look that up in their computer? There are reasons that people have little faith in the police. It's all too often that even when we do their jobs for them, they still can't be bothered to take the last step and actually do their jobs.

    33. Re:Just more extreme by CharlyFoxtrot · · Score: 1

      The leads are weak.

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    34. Re:Just more extreme by RCGodward · · Score: 1

      I think in this case they were seriously French.

    35. Re:Just more extreme by CharlyFoxtrot · · Score: 1

      Theft is a minor problem in affluent societies. We've all got a lot more stuff. So much stuff that when a bit of your stuff gets stolen you still have more stuff than you know what to do with. And it's easily replaceable too. Big difference from the days where you could fit all your things in a small suitcase and most people couldn't afford the trip to the store let alone to replace what got stolen.

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    36. Re:Just more extreme by mangu · · Score: 1

      from my experience and what I've heard from others, generally if you do your own detective work and put together a case like that and hand it to the police, they're probably going to do something about it

      Same experience here. My sister's weekend home was burglarized and she and her husband gave the police a list of what had been stolen.

      A few weeks later the police caught a man who had a lot of stolen stuff in his home. It was only because they had the serial number of my sister's stolen TV that they could press charges against him.

      They told her that the biggest problem with burglary is that people don't report it so they cannot prosecute someone that gets arrested. If you have the receipts for the stolen goods the serial numbers are logged in the police files and every time they arrest someone who is suspect of burglary or receiving stolen goods they will check the serial numbers of anything they find with the suspects.

    37. Re:Just more extreme by splatter · · Score: 4, Funny

      To the cloud!

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    38. Re:Just more extreme by phantomcircuit · · Score: 1

      They might tell you too do that in the US also, except they'll tell you to bring a gun.

    39. Re:Just more extreme by meloneg · · Score: 1

      Yeah. Aggravated w/ weapon usually means he threatened someone face-to-face. That is generally a lot higher priority than "he broke in when no one was home".

    40. Re:Just more extreme by operagost · · Score: 1

      ... and gets reelected after he serves his sentence.

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    41. Re:Just more extreme by Hope+Thelps · · Score: 1

      Stealing used to be a hanging offense, now it is "meh". And people wonder why society has gone to hell.

      Slavery used to be lawful. Women used to be treated like property and didn't used to get to vote - even where we had elections instead of warlords. Pre-teen children used to be expected to work in factories or get sent up/down chimney's to clean them. Having the wrong beliefs used to get you publicly flogged or executed.

      Current state of society - not exactly hell (at least, not where I live. If you live in Somalia then maybe, but there you can probably get hanged for stealing).

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    42. Re:Just more extreme by MobileTatsu-NJG · · Score: 1

      Stuff is easily replacable thanks to cheaper costs and insurance. That's why people are 'meh', why it's no longer a hanging offense, and not related at all to 'society going to hell'. If you have proven anything, it's that society is way better today than it used to be.

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    43. Re:Just more extreme by Culture20 · · Score: 1

      I saw a searchlight in the sky without a silhouette. Maybe Commissioner Gorden was using the Anonymous-Signal?

    44. Re:Just more extreme by History's+Coming+To · · Score: 2

      ...and for those without the cultural references, the above is a good parody of the right-wing AND prejudicial wing of the UK press. Nowt wrong with being right wing, or with recognising racial/cultural differences (I do it by making sure I don't hand money to a Muslim and/or Arab with my left hand, it's no big deal and only polite), but the references the parent is making are real, stupid and sad. Somebody mod him/her up?

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    45. Re:Just more extreme by pthisis · · Score: 2

      Wrong. It's not usually done at night, its done during the day when people ARE NOT HOME. Theifs want to take your crap, they don't want a confrontation.

      I'm pretty sure that when GP said "its also usual done at night (must be done at night to meet some definitions of burglary)" he was discussing burglary as legally defined. By common law, burglary is defined by 5 elements: (1) Breaking and (2) Entering (3) of a residence (4) at night (5) with intent to commit a felony.

      Some jurisdictions have relaxed that definition, but traditionally if it's not at night then it isn't burglary; it could be larceny or robbery or simple theft or some other crime. The penalties for burglary were higher (as GP noted), precisely because it involved entering a residence at night which is both more invasive to people's sense of security and more likely to result in personal harm than daytime theft.

      Even in jurisdictions where the definition has been relaxed, there are still often higher penalties for burglaries that are of residences, committed at night, or both.

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    46. Re:Just more extreme by DarkOx · · Score: 1

      You might want to check out the common law definition of burglary, that is used in lots of places! One breaking into someone's house in the day time might just be "breaking and entering" a different crime. It depends on where you live. Generally burglary is considered more serious because its at night and the victim is more likely to be at home, in places that use that definition of burglary.

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    47. Re:Just more extreme by h4rr4r · · Score: 1

      They still won't do anything about it.

    48. Re:Just more extreme by Mister+Whirly · · Score: 1

      Actually, there are people who STILL think that the Earth is flat.

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    49. Re:Just more extreme by MaskedSlacker · · Score: 1

      Still is the wrong the term. That's like saying there are STILL wiccans, when Wicca is a modern invention.

    50. Re:Just more extreme by MaskedSlacker · · Score: 1

      Yeah, the problem is that we're still arresting people for drug offenses. When the last three presidents were admitted drug users, and when serving prison time for drugs doesn't even keep you out of office...do I really have to say the rest?

    51. Re:Just more extreme by MichaelSmith · · Score: 1

      I think /s/ is the Anonymous-Signal. Just start a MILF thread and see what happens.

    52. Re:Just more extreme by LoztInSpace · · Score: 2

      Could be difficult. It was a wireless laptop running on a battery. Police have no leads.
      Thanks. I'm here all week.

    53. Re:Just more extreme by dominious · · Score: 1

      Dude. His picture is now on /.. His picture can go on the newspapers and any other media. If I was the victim I would fucking post it everywhere. At least the chances of someone calling the police would increase.

      Moreover, do you know that social networks are small-world networks and highly clustered (six degrees of separation and all). With some social network analysis I could increase my chances even more. With facebook even more!.

    54. Re:Just more extreme by ZeRu · · Score: 1

      OP has a point, really. I've heard about someone hitting a tree because they were texting while walking, and then they sued the local authorities.
      You think stupid lawsuits only happen in the USA?

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    55. Re:Just more extreme by conureman · · Score: 1

      I lived in L.A. It gave me some insight on police indifference. Might I suggest a strategic "throw down" be placed with valuables? Get an old, extremely shitty, gun, (hell, disable the firing pin or something, we don't need to arm any more criminals.) and keep it with your computer gear so that thieves will be compelled to drag it away with the rest of your loot. That seems to elicit a whole new level of interest when you call the police. I had a car stolen and I seemed to be a bother to the policeman I had the audacity to report it to, until I mentioned a revolver that I had locked in the trunk. Later, when I had located my missing car, (on my own, thanks) and notified the L.A.P.D., they actually dispatched an officer to the scene. (Just so he could trace the gun's serial number and check me for warrants, but it's nice to be noticed.)

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    56. Re:Just more extreme by stonewallred · · Score: 1

      NC defines it as breaking into an occupied dwelling or breaking into a home at night. (paraphrased) Do it during the day when no is home, it is B&E. Fuck up and someone there is there during the day, you go from B&E which carried very little time to a burglary, which under the pre-structured sentencing laws, carried up to life in prison.

    57. Re:Just more extreme by heironymous · · Score: 1

      And yet, whenever I listen to BBC radio in the U.S., I always hear announcers say "thousand million" instead of "billion".

      This makes for an entertaining impedance mismatch when U.S. politicians are interviewed about the budget or deficit.

    58. Re:Just more extreme by RockDoctor · · Score: 1

      But it is a new level of stupidity (arrogance? weirdness?) to go ahead and post a pic of yourself

      There is an old, but depressingly true nonetheless, aphorism that one should not "attribute to malice that which can adequately be explained by stupidity or incompetence".

      s/malice/arrogance/

      Like so many old sayings, it has gotten to an old age by continuing to be relevant at frequent intervals (frequent enough to not need re-inventing, just remembering). which would suggest that there are many more stupid or incompetent people than there are truly malicious ones.

      Isn't that a nice thought?

      No, not really.

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    59. Re:Just more extreme by Kozz · · Score: 1

      The police told my brother that the best he could do was to show up at a meeting with the burglar (remember a hardcore drug addict), confront him and then call 911 (or local equivalent) after confirming the serial numbers match. French police.

      Maybe he could meet the burglar... but show up with some friends. That'd be my inclination.

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    60. Re:Just more extreme by harrytuttle777 · · Score: 1

      Really! Some would say your knee jerk defense of the criminal is a sign that society has gone to hell. It wasn't like he was stealing food from the refrigerator because he was starving. He was stealing a laptop and cash.

      -I would say that the fact your comment has received a +5 would be an indicator, to me that slashdot has truly gone to hell.

    61. Re:Just more extreme by Archangel+Michael · · Score: 1

      Actually, it was considered stealing a man's life. You steal from someone, and you take part of his life.

      Look, I'm personally against the death penalty, but I'm just saying that somewhere between hanging and 'meh' is a place we need to get back to.

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    62. Re:Just more extreme by Jake+Griffin · · Score: 1

      It is a mystery, but don't call me Shirley.

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    63. Re:Just more extreme by Jake+Griffin · · Score: 1

      That, and burglars aren't "burglars" if it isn't at night. They're just thieves.

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    64. Re:Just more extreme by harrytuttle777 · · Score: 1

      People like this robber are the ones who are more often than not the affluent ones. This is how the got to be affluent. The working man is a true schmuck.

      -In the United States we believe in the spirit of cooperation. Law enforcement, the Gang Stars, and the politicians, all cooperate to make the most money of a dwindling pool of suckers.

    65. Re:Just more extreme by harrytuttle777 · · Score: 1

      Not everybody lives in the society you do, has insurance, and access to 'cheaper' electronics. There are lots of people in supposedly affluent societies who's worldly possessions fit in their shopping carts.

      The thug who robbed this person's house is not one of those just struggling to get by victimized by society. If anything he is driving around in a nice car, and is getting mad pussy, and well respect by other kids who look up to him, and want to become him. The reason for this is simple. People in polite society have largely become sissified, and are willing to put up with this. These guys do not fear the cops, but they would fear the good citizens if they only would put up a fight. Kids look up to the gang stars today because it appears to them that all the decent citizens are just a bunch of pussies. This needs to stop.

      While our republic is being taken over by Gang Stars of all races and nationalities, the good citizens are asleep.

    66. Re:Just more extreme by mirix · · Score: 1

      Not sure why english never picked up on the unambiguous term 'milliard'.

      I suppose that still makes 10^12 billion ambiguous though.

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    67. Re:Just more extreme by MobileTatsu-NJG · · Score: 1

      Not everybody lives in the society you do, has insurance, and access to 'cheaper' electronics.

      So? Not everybody runs around being a thug, either.

      While our republic is being taken over by Gang Stars of all races and nationalities, the good citizens are asleep.

      Crime has been going down and the reasons that it was a hanging offense don't apply anymore. What has sharply risen in recent years is media sensationalism.

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    68. Re:Just more extreme by harrytuttle777 · · Score: 1

      Sure not everyone is a thug.

      There are still lots of good people left. My point is that 'being good' it is not nearly as 'fashionable' as it once was. You place a nerdy looking dude on the street corner, and a G on the other street corner, I guarantee you the G will be getting a lot more respect. No one gets excited anymore about science, or going to church anymore They do get excited about doing some crack.

      As for media sensationalism, I could not agree with you more. One of the major beneficiaries of crime in my country is the media. Every-time someone gets shot AND they can say the crime was 'racially' motivated, some channel 5 'reporter' gets paid. However, they don't give a fu$k if it was not 'racially motivated'.

      As for crime rates going down, you must live someplace i don't.

    69. Re:Just more extreme by MobileTatsu-NJG · · Score: 1

      You place a nerdy looking dude on the street corner, and a G on the other street corner, I guarantee you the G will be getting a lot more respect.

      There was never a point where that wasn't true.

      As for crime rates going down, you must live someplace i don't.

      Look it up.

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    70. Re:Just more extreme by harrytuttle777 · · Score: 1

      Look it up.

      I would rather just look down the street. I don't have to 'look it up'.

      -We should commission a study to determine why people will believe any study done be 'experts' whose job it is to do studies, when they won't believe the evidence of their own common sense.
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    71. Re:Just more extreme by MobileTatsu-NJG · · Score: 1

      So.... you're just talking about the block you live on, then?

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  2. Street Cred +10 by aeroseth · · Score: 3, Funny

    It's not all about the bling yo!

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    1. Re:Street Cred +10 by Just_Say_Duhhh · · Score: 1

      "Hide your wife, hide your kids, 'cause they're rapin' everybody up in here."

      ...and another star is born.

      --
      I need trepanation like I need a hole in the head.
  3. behind the curve == me by magarity · · Score: 1

    Wow, I feel totally out of it. Someone who looks like (posing with cash and handsign) that is doing facebook and I don't. On the other hand, the geeks have won if computing has become so pervasive.

    1. Re:behind the curve == me by Bradford78 · · Score: 1

      Pst, the geeks have won.

  4. /b/ by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    nuff said

  5. Even the SCUM are implementing technology by Agent__Smith · · Score: 1

    I'm sure that this fine upstanding young man was just doing it to show off and demonstrate that he was powerful. Marking his turf. Kind of like when my wife's chihuahua pisses around the house. The funny thing is that the chihuahua has more class than this looser.

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    1. Re:Even the SCUM are implementing technology by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

      Which is why someone should find him, beat him within an inch of his life and post a picture of themselves hoisting his barely-breathing body into a dumpster.

  6. "Show us you're down for the cause." by Lashat · · Score: 1

    I almost have to believe that someone put this theif up to the stunt. "Prove you got what it takes to be one of us." or some other "making your bones" testing of the new guy. "Do this, get caught, don't rat and we will have bigger and better things for you afterwards." Or maybe he just missed someone in jail that he really wanted to spend the holidays with. There is deifinately some unique logic at work here.

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    1. Re:"Show us you're down for the cause." by Stregano · · Score: 1

      or maybe he is just an idiot with an ego

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    2. Re:"Show us you're down for the cause." by Lashat · · Score: 1

      Everyone agrees on "idiot".

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    3. Re:"Show us you're down for the cause." by Coren22 · · Score: 2

      Most likely possibility is that the victim had Facebook set to autologin and the thief forgot to log out when he was posting the pic.

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  7. Re:He did it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    That's enough green to put some spinner hubcaps on the 'ol 1998 Accord Sedan.

  8. will some post his MUG shot as well? by Joe+The+Dragon · · Score: 1

    will some post his MUG shot as well?

  9. Another Xfinity ad! by lsmo · · Score: 1

    So I am guessing the next pic will be of Ben Stein. Must have been a very large 15yr old, because the jacket fits Shaq o' so well. Lol

    1. Re:Another Xfinity ad! by HelioWalton · · Score: 1

      The jacket did not belong to the kid, it belonged to the father. That was in TFA though, so I don't hold it against you!

  10. Bloody taffers! by MrEricSir · · Score: 1

    I'll find you! ...oh well, it was probably nothing.

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    There's no -1 for "I don't get it."
  11. Re:Guess we'll see if Darwin was right by YrWrstNtmr · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If this guy manages to successfully breed then Darwin might have been wrong but I think it also would weigh against "intelligent design".

    This fool will outbreed you. And make you pay for it.

  12. Re:Guess we'll see if Darwin was right by XxtraLarGe · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This fool will outbreed you. And make you pay for it.

    And that, my friends, is the welfare state in a nutshell.

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  13. No backup? WTH? by scottv67 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    From the fine article:

    The good news, of course, is that no one was hurt, and virtually everything the burglar took is replaceable. One exception: On my son's computer, but never backed up, was one of the greatest documents ever, something he would have cherished all his life. He had meticulously kept a running list of every movie he had ever seen, hundreds and hundreds, with his comments on each. It's gone -- a reminder of the new reality that computers and Facebook have created, a world in which a document meant to last a lifetime can disappear in an instant, and a photograph meant as an impulsive gloat lives forever.

    How is it that someone has a laptop where important files (files other than the OS and apps that can be re-installed from original media) aren't backed-up to removable media or a service like Carbonite, Mozy, etc.? This isn't 1995 when "backup" meant inserting and removing multiple 1.44MB floppies.

  14. To quote Dr. Horrible: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    "The Freeze ray needs work. I also need to be a little more careful about what I say on this blog. Apparently the LAPD and Captain Hammer are among our viewers. . ."

  15. Re:Guess we'll see if Darwin was right by lennier1 · · Score: 1
  16. Stupid crook tricks.... by scharkalvin · · Score: 1

    when this guy gets caught he'll probably end up on Letterman's show.

  17. A job for the human flesh search engine by Merpy · · Score: 2

    There was an article a while back that talked about how groups of people track down someone... http://yro.slashdot.org/story/10/03/05/0253253/Chinas-Human-Flesh-Search-Engine?from=rss

  18. Re:Guess we'll see if Darwin was right by Archangel+Michael · · Score: 1

    and why Darwin should be invoked.

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    Agent K: A *person* is smart. People are dumb, stupid, panicky animals, and you know it.
  19. Re:BALLS!!! by mangu · · Score: 1

    Too bad they seem to be in his brain, instead of the regular place.

  20. Re:No backup? WTH? by vux984 · · Score: 1

    How is it that someone has a laptop where important files aren't backed up...

    People don't think about backups. I actually like Windows 7's backup nag... i think that's probably gotten more backups done than anything anyone else has done in the history of computers.

  21. Re:No backup? WTH? by flowwolf · · Score: 1

    Because he's a 15 year old? Seriously, not everyone is a data hoarder. Removable media is no more safe a backup. A subscription based service isn't exactly what people want to do either. Nobody thinks "i need to back this file up" just as people wouldn't think they need multiple copies of important paper documents. Myself, I use Google Docs to back up personal documents. This is something I picked up from years of experience. In no way is practices like this considered common knowledge. Give the kid a break.

  22. Re:No backup? WTH? by clone52431 · · Score: 1

    Removable media is no more safe a backup.

    Keeping two up-to-date copies is always more safe than having just one, regardless of what sort of media it’s stored on. If there’s even a chance of reading it back off, it’s better than not having it at all.

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  23. Re:No backup? WTH? by bluefoxlucid · · Score: 1

    was one of the greatest documents ever, something he would have cherished all his life. He had meticulously kept a running list of every movie he had ever seen, hundreds and hundreds, with his comments on each.

    If you cherish this your whole life, you have no life.

  24. Re:He did it by LoP_XTC · · Score: 1

    That's enough green to put some spinner hubcaps on the 'ol 1998 Accord Sedan.

    Not in my area, here it would be the amount required for them to put a down payment on a set of rent to own spinners. After which they then go to the local check into cash or title loan and put up the title of the car they just put the spinners on to make the next payment on the rims.

    Amazing the number of cars in my area where the rims cost more than the car they are on, and the driver is making payments on both.

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  25. Re:Guess we'll see if Darwin was right by XxtraLarGe · · Score: 1

    WTF... welfare state? Burglary falls strictly under the category of individual enterprise, I'm afraid.

    Read more closely, were not talking about burglary at this point.

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  26. Re:Guess we'll see if Darwin was right by clone52431 · · Score: 1

    The welfare state only enables them 9 instead of 7 children vs. your 2 or 3.

    You missed the part about “And make you pay for it”.

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  27. Re:No backup? WTH? by kubernet3s · · Score: 2

    You see this all the time where I work (tech support for a small university): when people don't back stuff up, it's the computer's fault for not being a stone tablet keep in a salt-cavern in Siberia. If his son had been keeping a notebook with said list in it, the loss of that notebook to fire or water wouldn't be "a reminder of a new reality where paper and ink are no match for the whims of nature." People need to realize that expecting your computer never to be lost or to break is as unrealistic as, if not more so than, expecting a sheet of looseleaf to do the same.

  28. Re:No backup? WTH? by flowwolf · · Score: 1

    The media it is stored on doesn't mean anything to the information itself. Backing it up on a home server or a cloud service are my recommended practices. No where did I say that backing up isn't a good idea. I only say that removable media is a volatile approach to backing up and subscription services aren't worth the money since there are free alternatives.

    Also, did I mention this kid is a kid? You don't berate someone inexperienced for not knowing best practices. You encourage them to learn from those mistakes. Backing data up doesn't occur to most people, let alone a teenager on facebook, as being important.

  29. Re:No backup? WTH? by clone52431 · · Score: 1

    No where did I say that backing up isn't a good idea. I only say that removable media is a volatile approach to backing up

    Perhaps volatile, but still a perfectly good backup unless you’re expecting it to have a shelf life of years.

    Also, did I mention this kid is a kid? You don't berate someone inexperienced for not knowing best practices. You encourage them to learn from those mistakes. Backing data up doesn't occur to most people, let alone a teenager on facebook, as being important.

    And luckily all he lost in this learning experience was just a silly list of movies anyway, not really anything that’s truly valuable.

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  30. Re:a liberal is a conservative who hasn't been mug by TheCarp · · Score: 1, Interesting

    I happen to disagree entirely.

    Not because I feel much sympathy for thieves... believe it or not, I have been robbed. In fact, some barbarian got into my car, went through the glove box, and stole my GPS, just last weekend. Not to mention the time my old apartment got broken into and laptop stolen, or the few other times I have been taken, robbed, etc. Hell about 10 years ago I was a drug dealer for all of 2 weeks.... got shut down and put out of business by a box that was supposed to be filled with weed, and instead ended up being the most expensive pack of marshmallows that I ever bought.

    So why would I not be in favor of just killing them? Well... I have a friend who used to be a thief. He stole cars, he did all manner of bad things. What does he do now? Well... he spent the past 15 years turning his life around. He has been working as a professional Carpenter for almost 8 years before an unfortunate accident with a saw sent him home and back to school. (and showed him and all our friends that insurance companies can be bigger crooks than outright thieves.... seriously... the games they play are downright abusive)

    People grow up, people change. Killing one doesn't stop the next one, its not even a particularly good deterrent (actually severity of punishment is easy to show is not a good deterrent) on the other hand, increasing the likelyhood of being caught, even with relatively minor punishment, turns out to be a far more effective deterrent. (lojack is more effective, for example, than long jail sentences at reducing theft rates).

    So.... in the end, harsh punishments are really just petty attempts to make the victim FEEL better. They don't really lessen crime rates. Which makes them perfect for justification of increasing budgets.... a bureaucratic wet dream... an ineffective and expensive remedy that people like, and keep coming back for.... it is political crack.

    -Steve

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  31. Re:He did it by Coren22 · · Score: 1

    AC said hubcaps, not rims. Hubcaps are those things you put over the standard steel rim that comes on the base model cars.

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  32. Re:No backup? WTH? by GodfatherofSoul · · Score: 1

    You, Sir, need to get out of your basement and mingle with the average computer user more often. We've got billion dollar social networks based on airing your humilitation.

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  33. Re:a liberal is a conservative who hasn't been mug by GodfatherofSoul · · Score: 1

    You're assuming that whenever the rest of us suffers misfortune at the hand of another person, we want their entire demographic obliterated. Thankfully, not many people think like you.

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  34. My last straw for ACs by GodfatherofSoul · · Score: 1

    Nothing like a Black or Mexican mugshot to bring out the AC epithets. I'll miss the legitimate AC comments unfortunately...

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  35. Re:No backup? WTH? by Coren22 · · Score: 1

    Don't buy your computers at BestBuy. Dell and HP allow you to select to have your media shipped with the computer, totally worth the $5 charge.

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  36. Re:Idiot tag by Score+Whore · · Score: 1

    Eh? I'll take burgled over burglarize.

  37. Because nobody thinks about it till they lose data by Sycraft-fu · · Score: 1

    Backups are something people just forget. Computers are generally pretty reliable these days and that fools people in to thinking they are totally reliable. They won't want to bother with backups. "Too much work," or whatever. Stays that way up until they get nailed with data loss. Then they cry about how precious their data was and so on.

    We fight with this shit at work all the time. We have some high quality central storage. redundant NetApps, backed up to LTO, rotated out to a vault. The kind of that that is high availability and high reliability, designed to survive even if our building was leveled because there is data that would still matter then. Well it is limited, of course, because it is expensive. Everyone gets 10GB by default and can buy more (I work for a university so research groups pay from grants).

    Well since they can't store everything on it many people store nothing on it. Too inconvenient to think about what they really need. They also then bitch as to why do we charge a couple bucks a gig when they can get a 1TB HDD for less than $100.

    Then they lose a drive and whine and scream and cry about how we have, HAVE to recover their data because it is to important and they really need it and so on. They get all huffy that it wasn't "automatic" and basically in defensive mode since they know they fucked up but won't admit it.

    Only after a crisis do people start to understand backups it seems.

  38. As an example by Sycraft-fu · · Score: 1

    Someone here at work had his laptop stolen. It had CompuTrace on it. We hadn't activated it, but since it was corporate (well University but they treat us the same) they were willing and able to do it remotely upon proper authorization. They did so and started to track the laptop. They and we worked with the police on this.

    It was not fast, the cops didn't grab their guns and rush out, but after a month or two, they were ready, they'd gotten what they needed, done what they needed, whatever. They had Computrace tighten the tracking period to 15 minutes, got information from the ISP, and raided the house. Arrested a guy and girl with a lot of stolen goods.

    More months went by for other shit related to the case, and then, finally, we got the laptop back.

    It wasn't fast, it wasn't flash justice, but they did their job. The reason was that there was actually information to go on. Computrace, and our sworn statement, could give them the information they needed for a subpoena and a warrant, and Computrace plus the information subpoena'd from the ISP could give them a place to serve the warrant.

    Had we not had that, had our call just been "Someone stole the laptop," they would have taken a report but done nothing else because what else could they do? There is no information to go on.

    1. Re:As an example by clone52431 · · Score: 1

      CompuTrace’s entire business model depends on the cops doing their job, and if the cops just blew it off, CompuTrace could go to the news media and start asking questions like “how much money do these guys get in taxes, exactly? look, we’re even giving them GPS coordinates and they still won’t go arrest the guy”.

      That doesn’t prove much. Fact is, if the cops weren’t going to publicly look completely incompetent, they wouldn’t have done anything.

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  39. Re:He did it by meloneg · · Score: 1

    Actually, I think that's only a single hundred. Folded funny, though.

  40. Re:a liberal is a conservative who hasn't been mug by mangu · · Score: 1

    Killing one doesn't stop the next one, its not even a particularly good deterrent (actually severity of punishment is easy to show is not a good deterrent) on the other hand, increasing the likelyhood of being caught, even with relatively minor punishment, turns out to be a far more effective deterrent. (lojack is more effective, for example, than long jail sentences at reducing theft rates).

    [citation needed]. The problem with every study about crime deterrent is that almost everyone who writes about it is so politicized, either left or right.

    I have absolutely no idea whether some kind of punishment is a good deterrent or not. There's only one certainty, dead people don't commit crimes, so I support the death penalty for heinous crimes.

    Other than that, is it better to have stiffer punishment or to increase the likelihood of getting caught? I don't know, so let's have both.

    harsh punishments are really just petty attempts to make the victim FEEL better.

    Well, if something makes the victim FEEL better, why not? Do you have anything against the victim?

  41. Re:Welcome by RCGodward · · Score: 1

    I would honestly guess that he didn't vote.

  42. Re:a liberal is a conservative who hasn't been mug by TheCarp · · Score: 1

    Citation would be where I read about this was "More Sex is Safer Sex" by some economist whose name could easily be looked up from that. (its friday man). I believe that he devoted a whole chapter to LoJack.

    While its true that dead people don't commit crimes, the courts don't always punish the right person. Several people have been put to death for "heinous crimes" that it was later shown that they did not commit.

    Also, as I said, people change. I have heard it noted, a few times, by people who have studied or interviewed death row inmates who have said that it seemed like many of these people had changed significantly from when they comited their crime (often many years ago) and, by the time they were executed, didn't seem like a real danger to anyone.

    Don't get me wrong, there are really broken people out there. I don't think anyone is going to be rehabilitating serial rapist/killers. There probably are a, very few, that will never be ok to be released to the public again... but, so few that whats the harm of just housing them forever in a jail? (give them a rope or something... I do believe suicide should be considered a right... if they choose to die thats another story) In terms of the HUGE cost of running prison systems, I doubt the difference here is more than.... fractions of a penny on the hundred dollars.

    As for making the victim FEEL better... why not? I ask why? You don't know that what you do will definitely make them feel better. How about, all this "justice" is expensive. You don't get everything you want. Actually.... I have a better example.....

    I know that some things would make me feel better. I would like to see political crimes get the death penalty. I rant and rave all the time about what groups of people should be curb stomped/swinging above the ground/etc.... but... if this organization wants to earn (still waiting) the right to have me call them "my government" then I don't want them to be acting in the impuslive ways that I do, I want them to be better and more reasoned, and not so quick to jump to outlandish and draconian ideas like an individual (even myself) would.

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  43. Re:a liberal is a conservative who hasn't been mug by cdrguru · · Score: 1

    The problem with the apparent disconnect between severe/harsh punishmet and deterrence is the delay between the act and the punishment. This is more or less mandated by the idea of a fair trial, the incredible backlog in the court system and the prosecution ability to schedule the trial after forcing the defendant to sit in jail for years.

    Back in the 1800s and earlier there was a lot less foofaraw between a criminal act and the punishment. A thief was seen leaving the scene of the crime and 30 minutes later was in the stocks or being whipped. This acted as much more of a deterrent. Similarly, while some folks did get away with crime today we have a conviction rate of less than 20% for many crimes. If you kill someone your actual chances of being convicted and going to prison is rather small - unless you arrogantly brag about it or decide the law enforcement folks are too stupid to catch you. And murder is one of the highest rates of conviction there is.

    Which is why burglary and shoplifting are so incredibly popular. You aren't going to get caught and if you do you will probably not ever serve a day in prison or jail because of it.

    In some places I feel it would be far more appropriate if public executions were carried out immediately. And have a penalty of a year in prison for anyone that could be proven to have witnessed the crime and not reported it or come forward. In most communities there is a sense of just not wanting to get involved or being fearful of the repercussions of snitching. Society can't function very well with a "stop snitching" rule in place as it is today. As can be seen by the murder rates in the US - every major city has at least a murder a day in the metro area and most of these are unsolved. Why? Because nobody in the right mind is going to tell the police anything for fear of the murderer's friends retailiating.

    So there is no more "hue and cry" and criminals are more or less free to go about their ways.

  44. Re:No backup? WTH? by vux984 · · Score: 1

    Or you could just use OSX and Time Machine and have it do auto backups for you. No need to nag unless it can't reach the backup server.

    That would require you to think about backups, and pro-actively set up time machine.
    You've been able to automate backups on most operating systems for over a decade, if you were inclined to to so.

    Windows 7 actually suggests that setting up backups is something you should do, and flags it as an issue if you don't.

  45. Re:Guess we'll see if Darwin was right by BlitzTech · · Score: 1

    I kind of wanted to mod you -1 for that, but it felt wrong to punish the truth. Even if it makes me sad.

  46. Re:No backup? WTH? by rsborg · · Score: 1

    How is it that someone has a laptop where important files (files other than the OS and apps that can be re-installed from original media) aren't backed-up to removable media or a service like Carbonite, Mozy, etc.? This isn't 1995 when "backup" meant inserting and removing multiple 1.44MB floppies.

    Seriously. When purchasing a laptop for me or a family member, I usually price in two additional things: 1) A service plan if the recipient isn't tech-savvy and 2) An external hard drive with equal or slightly higher capacity for backups. Both of these together usually don't run that much, usually only add about 10-20% to the price, but really make any time investment (usually worth far more than the device) in the laptop worth it.

    For backup, I use SuperDuper/CCC/TimeMachine for Mac, and Macrium Reflect (free) for the PC, and just setup a recurring calendar event so the owner is notified to backup the device.

    I've found backups on the Mac are a whole lot easier since the cloned boot disks are easily booted on other Mac hardware, but it's pretty livable on the PC side as well.

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  47. Re:No backup? WTH? by junglebeast · · Score: 1

    To quote a Mozy user,
    http://mozy.com/blog/misc/backing-up-hundreds-of-gigabytes-with-mozy/

    "Gregory had mentioned that there is a 5mbps upload speed cap. In my experience, it’s much lower than that. The fastest I have seen uploads are around 1.8mbps or so. So maybe a 2mbps upload cap. "

    I currently have about 1 TB of material that needs to be backed up. That will take 48.5 days to make the initial backup using Mozy...or about 2 hours to backup to another HDD. Honestly I think most people acquire or create new data faster than you could upload with a continuous stream...not to mention that if your upload pipe was 100% filled all the time, it would congest your ability to download or use the internet in any useful way.

    Of course, backups are useless if you only make them once, so I want to do a backup about once a week. Guess which option I use??

  48. Re:Because nobody thinks about it till they lose d by rsborg · · Score: 1

    Backups are something people just forget. Computers are generally pretty reliable these days and that fools people in to thinking they are totally reliable. They won't want to bother with backups. "

    Our workplace policy is that all stuff should live on our network shares. For information that isn't on the share, and for instant recovery purposes, every computer comes with an external disk that can be used for backup or disk imaging software. We also offer something like network backup service, but few use it.

    Dealing with the crybabies is hard, but we're a bit lucky in that our management agrees that keeping the users informed and armed is the best approach, so we do monthly training sessions and spam the users semi-regularly for this kind of stuff.

    People are lazy, but when they know you're trying to help them, it makes things easier.

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  49. Re:a liberal is a conservative who hasn't been mug by cdrguru · · Score: 1

    Swift and certain punishment is possible with community support - make snitching mandatory and a penalty for not snitching. Without it crime will always be rampant and enforcement a joke like it is today.

    With swift and certain punishment you might punish the wrong person. When it is a capital crime that is really a shame. But, when the alternative is housing people for 50 years and creating incredibly abusive environments in prisons is this really an alternative? Why are prisons so abusive? It might have something to do with people being there who have (a) lost any empathy for others and (b) have nothing to lose by abusing others. So you have beatings, killings and rapes. And, the enslavement of the weaker by the stronger. We could make sure that prisons were populated by strong, caring people or we could just not house them for so long.

    With swift and certain punishment there would have to be clear penalties for not snitching or for ratting on the wrong people. OK, so you get in good with the neighborhood gang lord by ratting out someone else as the killer... but if you then are executed because of this (because it will eventually come out) it makes it plain to everyone there is no percentage in lying. Make the executions public and televised. Make other punishments equally swift and certain. And we start to take control away from the criminals.

    Today I can buy a untracable gun and kill someone and be assured of never getting caught. OK, I have to do this away from a crowded public street with a police car on it, but the point is I can do this. So can anyone else. It happens every day and it isn't just because with 330 million people there are bound to be some killings. The point is that it is known that burglars and shoplifters aren't going to be caught and aren't going to do any time - so these are safe occupations. If a homeowner is killed the police have plenty of sympathy but little else. The witnesses will do nothing and there is no power to compel their compliance with law enforcement.

    It is like auto accidents. Every year 40,000 people are killed and it is treated as a fact of life that is unpreventable. So we have 20,000 murders a year - down from 33,000 recently - and they are considered equally unpreventable and just a fact of life. Burglary? How about 2.3 million a year. Do you not think this is a problem?

  50. Headline word switch by brec · · Score: 1

    Should be "... Victim's Facebook Account", eh?

    1. Re:Headline word switch by Legion303 · · Score: 1

      Depends on how rapey the newest privacy policy is, I suppose...

  51. Re:No backup? WTH? by antdude · · Score: 1

    Also, move the backups away from the same place to avoid them being stolen too. ;)

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  52. Re:a liberal is a conservative who hasn't been mug by RightSaidFred99 · · Score: 1

    If the penalty for some heinous crime was being publicly flayed and tortured to death for 3 days under medical supervision, it would almost certainly cut down on that crime. We tend to hide the death penalty behind a veneer of civility and it doesn't really imprint on people's minds. "Oh, if I get caught _and_ convicted _and_ they go for the death penalty _and_ I can't appeal out of it over 20 years, I might die if I do this". It's all too abstract. Now, show some guy suffering the above torture on TV, might be a different story for some subset of the criminals.

    Note I'm not advocating this by any means, though there are people I would like to see it done to it would never work in the real world and would do more harm than good overall.

  53. Re:No backup? WTH? by Estanislao+Mart�nez · · Score: 1

    Or you could just use OSX and Time Machine and have it do auto backups for you. No need to nag unless it can't reach the backup server.

    The problem is that the burglar can also steal the Time Machine or external HD.

    Don't get me wrong, Apple have definitely done a nice job of making backup friendlier and more mainstream, but there's still a lot to do in that area. There's no Time Machine equivalent for off-site backup so far. (Not that there aren't friendly online backup solutions, but not with the level of friendliness and OS integration as Time Machine.)

    Basically, the industry is not in any hurry to make all computers come with redundant storage, make OSes automatically keep multiple copies of everything, make all ISP accounts come with off-site backup, make encryption easy to use and secure enough for the population at large, etc.

  54. Re:Welcome by RightSaidFred99 · · Score: 1

    Oh how typical. So "Bush's fault", huh?

    Yes, I'm joking.

  55. Re:Because nobody thinks about it till they lose d by lahvak · · Score: 1

    Some 15 years ago, when I was in graduate school, everybody in the department (some 100 faculty members and few hundred graduate students) had all their home directories network mounted from a central location. A faculty member would have a Sun workstation on his or her desk, but all their files would be on a central server somewhere. A grad student could walk up to any public workstation or terminal and do their work from there. The admins took care of all the backups, we did not have to worry about that at all. That was 15 years ago. Why isn't something like that possible now? You can blame stupid users, but this is clearly a system failure. At home, I am responsible for my own backups. At work, I should not have to worry about it.

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  56. Re:a liberal is a conservative who hasn't been mug by TheCarp · · Score: 1

    Honestly, yes, those are facts of life. I honestly don't believe you will lower the number of auto deaths per year much below what it is... or... even here keep it from rising in step with population growth... so long as humans are behind the wheel. Possibly by making cars, themselves, safer, sure.

    No amount of laws is going to change this, the best you will do is grind more lives through the legal system, to nobodies ultimate benefit. You are going to chew up tax dollars to ruin peoples lives, and, for what.... to delay a few peoples deaths? 40,000 really isn't that many in a country of 300 million.

    Seriously, life is 100% fatal, get over it. I don't want to live in the world that you envision, at all. Such a system is too easily bent towards evil. We should not allow a central authority to have so much power over us and what we do.

    Honestly, fascism scares the shit out of me. The last thing is I want to see is it to come back.

    -Steve

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  57. Re:a liberal is a conservative who hasn't been mug by TheCarp · · Score: 1, Interesting

    Also.... I really don't feel that ALL of the petty crimes and dangers of modern American life add up to even a fraction of the cost to society as the crimes pushed by central governments.

    By people who insist on raising armys and turning other peoples homes into war zones. You want to talk about a paultry 20,000 murders, 40,000 auto accidents... things that are mostly random and unplanned, or the work of impulsive kids.

    Central governments kill hundreds of thousands with their wars, rob from millions. You know how big the Social Security Trust Fund is? I will tell you what, at least the simple theives that have robbed me over the years total maybe 10 grand. The US government has been telling me it wants 6% of my income so it can write IOUs to itself. You really think petty thieves and gangs come CLOSE?

    -Steve

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  58. Re:No backup? WTH? by Izhido · · Score: 1

    ... you must be new in this planet, amirite? *Nobody* in here backups their cherished data until it hits them. And it must be a really hard blow, ot they won't pay attention to it ("it wasn't really that important, y'know? I'll rewrite the thing, then set up backups later." Always later...)

  59. You are confusing his comment of general society.. by denzacar · · Score: 1

    ...with what you believe was the level of education of the supposed intellectual elite. A belief which is probably very far from the truth.
    Remember, they trialed Galileo over heliocentrism a century and a half after the discovery of America, and Giordano Bruno was burned at the stake 30 years prior.
    And if you want another utterly wrong but common belief from that time that lasted all the way to the middle of the 19th century - try bloodletting.

    BTW... I know for a fact that there are still people around who don't believe in the Earth being round nor it turning around the Sun. Or turning around at all.
    And not for religious reason or anything - they simply "don't believe any of that shit".

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  60. Re:Welcome by jcr · · Score: 1

    I think burglary was more a Nixon thing. ;-)

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  61. Well... It's certainly not for victim's "friends" by denzacar · · Score: 1

    Cause about 30 of them "liked" the new photo.

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  62. Re:Because nobody thinks about it till they lose d by Sycraft-fu · · Score: 1

    That IS what we have. The problem is we can't force users to put their files on the storage. They have access to their local drive, there isn't a way to lock them out of that, not if you want the system to function. Also the central storage is limited. Like I said, 10GB per user unless they pay for more. Plenty for work, not for your MP3s. This is because it is expensive. The department isn't interested in spending tens of thousands of dollars so that people can have tons of expensive space so people can store shit they don't need backed up.

  63. Re:Guess we'll see if Darwin was right by Chris+Tucker · · Score: 1

    RE: Campaign for Liberty

    "...Tell them to approve a short-term version that removes the FDA's War on Food..."

    I stopped reading that site the instant I saw that. If wanted to read infantile Libertarian fantasy, I've got an old L. Neil Smith paperback around here someplace. Probably doing something useful, like being stuck under the short leg of a wobbly table.

    Apparently, the FDA seeking to enforce its mandate to ensure the cleanliness of food and food processing facilities is, according to the Randroids, a "War on Food".

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  64. Re:No backup? WTH? by Chris+Tucker · · Score: 1

    "That would require you to think about backups, and pro-actively set up time machine."

    "...pro-actively set up time machine"???

    You plug in an external drive. It asks if you want to use it as the Time Machine drive. You click 'YES'.

    "...pro-actively set up time machine" Jeebus!

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  65. Re:TNB, not news here. by Chris+Tucker · · Score: 1

    Racist Fuckwad Troll is Racist.

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  66. Re:Welcome by Chris+Tucker · · Score: 1

    Racist Fuckwad Troll Is Racist.

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  67. Re:Cool sotry bra by Chris+Tucker · · Score: 1

    Racist fuckwad troll is racist.

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  68. Facial recognition? by hawguy · · Score: 1

    This sounds like a great use for Facebook's new facial recognition feature -- they should be able to identify pictures with a face similar to the one the thief uploaded and correlate based on geography to narrow down the search. Then a human can review the matches to make a positive ID.

  69. Re:No backup? WTH? by vux984 · · Score: 1

    You plug in an external drive. It asks if you want to use it as the Time Machine drive. You click 'YES'.

    Right. Now what happens if you don't plug in an external drive? Its not like your Mac came with one, and most people who bought a computer didn't buy an external drive with it. OSX says nothing.

    What if you plugged in the external drive to read/write files from/to it, which is what most people who aren't thinking specifically about backups are doing. The time-machine message is actually an annoying pop-up you have to cancel. Even if I should set up a backup, and even if I -want- to set up a backup... I don't want to use *this disk right now*, so I cancel it...and then its out of sight out of mind again.

    Windows 7 flags it as an ongoing issue and says "Setup a backup. Your files are not being backed up. [button - Set up backup]"

    I'll give OSX full props for time machine its great software. But Windows 7 gets the win for actually telling people they actually should be backing up. Windows 7 defines "no backups" as a *problem* (unless you specifically tell it not to.) This is a good thing.

  70. Re:You are confusing his comment of general societ by DrgnDancer · · Score: 1

    The people who mattered: sailors, navigators, the merchants and nobles who sponsored their voyages; they all knew the world was round. People with an education knew, because it had been a known fact for centuries (The Greeks proved it in their heyday). Sailor and navigators knew because it was (and still is) observable on the oceans. Ships leaving port or sailing away from each other on a clear day could observe it. Objects in the distance didn't just fade away, they sunk into the horizon like you would expect with a curve. Even the Church never questioned this particular idea.

    The opinions of farmers or other shorebound were largely irrelevant to the journey. They weren't on the boats, and they had no say in the financing of the expeditions. The whole idea that Columbus was some sort of visionary who saw what others didn't and knew what others hadn't realized was largely an invention of late 19th and early 20th century "history as civics". They wanted to make the hero more heroic. It's been known to pretty much be bunk since before it's invention. My bachelors is in History, and we specifically looked at this case study in Historiography.

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  71. Re:You are confusing his comment of general societ by DrgnDancer · · Score: 1

    Sorry, more to the point of the original comment, the opinions of farmer or other shorebound are largely unknown. No one asked them, they didn't really write, and the official policy of the church (for anyone that cared) was that the Earth was round.

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  72. Why didn't they raise the gamma? by REALMAN · · Score: 1

    A simple photo editor would allow you to raise the gamma setting on the photo revealing the guys whole face....

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    1. Re:Why didn't they raise the gamma? by maxwell+demon · · Score: 1

      I can see the face quite well even without a photo editor. Maybe it's something with your monitor settings?

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  73. Re:Because nobody thinks about it till they lose d by lahvak · · Score: 1

    They have access to their local drive, there isn't a way to lock them out of that,

    Well, that's the problem. In the setup I was describing, we did not have write access to the local disk (except dirs like /tmp and so on, that must be world writable.) Still, since most applications save files to some default location, say My Documents or whatnot, can't you mount that remotely?

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  74. Re:No backup? WTH? by Altheron · · Score: 1

    Maybe the kid is a Stallmanite, and refused to trust his data to the cloud....

  75. Re:Unless you are a physicist by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

    What you do in private is irrelevant - you probably all scratch your arses too.

    But if you were communicating in a situation where it was important to avoid ambiguity you'd either use the SI prefixes or exponential notation.

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  76. There's a difference... by John+Pfeiffer · · Score: 1

    Yeah, no. This isn't addiction. This is straight-up goddamn stupidity. Sometimes it can be hard to tell the difference, but there definitely IS a difference.

    I'm still waiting to hear about someone tweeting "Robbin' a house~" using their iPhone, with location reporting turned on.

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  77. Re:Guess we'll see if Darwin was right by bledri · · Score: 1

    And that, my friends, is the welfare state in a nutshell.

    Yes, if there were a welfare state, someone unsavory may have children and those children may get fed, clothed and educated. Screw that, scrap the whole thing.

    You realize they will get born either way, right?

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  78. Re:a liberal is a conservative who hasn't been mug by TheCarp · · Score: 1

    > Awww -- just two weeks? Any chance you permanently fucked up some other kids'
    > lifetimes during your two weeks? How do their parents feel about you? Would
    > they prefer that you be snuffed instead of their kids?

    Who said anything about kids? Why bring kids into this? Ridiculous. Consenting adults in the privacy of their own home. I resent the implication that I would have even known anyone else... I can't stand kids. Dealing with them would have meant... knowing them and spending time with them. I avoid that whenever possible.

    The rest well.... your anecdote is sad but, N=1 is not a study. It says nothing about the average case. I never said thievery was great, or condonable.... just that people change.

    Your story doesn't seem to mention what happened to those thieves/murders. Do they still thieve and murder? How many times since then? Way to totally ignore the actual point.

    I would feel no differently if this happened to my friends or family. I would probably want to kill the bastards myself.

    Let me turn it around another way... if the husband said that he wanted them set free immediately with no punishment, and be let to spend the rest of their lives feeling guilty for what they did and knowing that a better man then them forgave them.... would you be mad at the state for locking them up anyway?

    Afterall... if its what makes him feel better... isn't that the point?

    -Steve

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  79. Re:Guess we'll see if Darwin was right by XxtraLarGe · · Score: 1

    Yes, if there were a welfare state, someone unsavory may have children and those children may get fed, clothed and educated. Screw that, scrap the whole thing.

    Yes, someone unsavory's children will get brought up in the same educational system as someone unsavory. The problem with the welfare state is that it divorces actions from the consequences of those actions. It reduces the consequences of having a child out of wedlock, especially when it is modeled repeatedly that you can get away with it and it is an acceptable way of life. Most of us want to see children fed, clothed and educated, we don't like to see someone unsavory creating unnecessary burdens for everyone else to bear because they don't accept the consequences of their own actions.

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