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Eric Schmidt Out, Larry Page In As Google CEO

jfruhlinger writes "Google surprised just about everybody at its earnings call by announcing that Eric Schmidt, who had served as company CEO for more than a decade, would be stepping down and that cofounder Larry Page would take over. Schmidt will stay on as chairman and provide 'technology thought leadership,' whatever that is. When Schmidt, an old Sun hand, joined Google in 2001, it was seen as a move to turn the scrappy upstart into a mature company; now on his Twitter feed Schmidt proclaims that his 'adult supervision' is no longer needed."

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  1. Well, I guess we can say... by teh31337one · · Score: 4, Funny

    Schmidt Happens

    1. Re:Well, I guess we can say... by PatPending · · Score: 2
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    2. Re:Well, I guess we can say... by HeckRuler · · Score: 1

      Huh, that's an odd "shit" embargo in the news corps in 2007.

    3. Re:Well, I guess we can say... by syousef · · Score: 1

      Schmidt Happens

      It's just another Page in amongst the ranks of Google's history.

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    4. Re:Well, I guess we can say... by goombah99 · · Score: 1

      I expectorated you'd say that. Tough Schmidt, the Page has turned.

      I hear that after the success of The Social Network, they are making a movie about Google called "Crazy Larry and Dirty Brin".

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    5. Re:Well, I guess we can say... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Microsoft and Apple got "The Pirates of Silicon Valley", that facebook asshole got "The Social Network", but those sucked ass. What I'm looking forward to is the adaptation of the Slashdot story. With Clint Eastwood as CmdrTaco, Jeff Goldblum as Anonymous Coward, and with the cinematographic expertise of Uwe Boll, it is sure to be a hit!
      Maybe if it is, they'll make one of 4chan or Twitter!

    6. Re:Well, I guess we can say... by jo42 · · Score: 1

      Schmidt Happens

      You're so clever! Maybe Google should offer you a job...

    7. Re:Well, I guess we can say... by teh31337one · · Score: 1

      meh. Was thinking of applying for an internship over the summer, but going to develop some apps instead.

    8. Re:Well, I guess we can say... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Maybe if it is, they'll make one of 4chan

      Do Not Want!

    9. Re:Well, I guess we can say... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      Maybe if it is, they'll make one of 4chan

      The Antisocial Network.

    10. Re:Well, I guess we can say... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, no shit.

    11. Re:Well, I guess we can say... by wesleyjconnor · · Score: 1

      with enough sequels they could get dubs....*cringe*

    12. Re:Well, I guess we can say... by mwvdlee · · Score: 2

      A twitter movie... It's going to have great dialog; no sentences longer than 140 characters.

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    13. Re:Well, I guess we can say... by XxtraLarGe · · Score: 1

      A twitter movie... It's going to have great dialog; no sentences longer than 140 characters.

      Starring Kenau Reeves!

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    14. Re:Well, I guess we can say... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm amazed that mere humans are allowed to be in control of a company as big as Google.

  2. Freaked out for a second by kenrblan · · Score: 2

    I briefly confused Larry Page with Larry Ellison. Whew. That would be terrible.

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    1. Re:Freaked out for a second by spun · · Score: 5, Funny

      I briefly confused Larry Page with Larry Ellison. Whew. That would be terrible.

      How could you confuse a rock and roll guitar legend with a diminutive, bombastic sci-fi writer?

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    2. Re:Freaked out for a second by arndawg · · Score: 1

      I did as well. Do no evil, Larry Ellison edition...

    3. Re:Freaked out for a second by Monkeedude1212 · · Score: 1

      The same way you confuse the two MJ's, Mick Jagger and Michael Jackson. ... Oh, and before you ask, no, I don't know HOW that happens, but I've seen it happen.

    4. Re:Freaked out for a second by migla · · Score: 1

      If I knew my who's-who of popular culture or could be bothered to google, I think I would see what you did there.

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    5. Re:Freaked out for a second by bev_tech_rob · · Score: 1

      I think you all are thinking of JIMMY Page (Led Zeppelin).

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    6. Re:Freaked out for a second by spun · · Score: 4, Funny

      I did as well. Do no evil, Larry Ellison edition...

      You misspelled know.

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    7. Re:Freaked out for a second by Locke2005 · · Score: 1

      Jimmy Page and Harlan Ellison?

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    8. Re:Freaked out for a second by Locke2005 · · Score: 5, Funny

      Jagger is the darker-skinned one with the wider nose.

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    9. Re:Freaked out for a second by Lemmy+Caution · · Score: 5, Funny

      Thank you for the briefing, Ambassador Obvious of the Planet Literal.

    10. Re:Freaked out for a second by Stregano · · Score: 1

      I used to get Mick Jagger confused with Steve Tyler since they both have abnormally massive mouths. Try being a kid watching the movie Freejack and knowing if that dude is Mick Lips or AeroLips

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    11. Re:Freaked out for a second by spun · · Score: 1

      I just remember Jagger as the one with the bigger lips...

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    12. Re:Freaked out for a second by nathana · · Score: 4, Funny

      I did as well. Do no evil, Larry Ellison edition...

      You misspelled know.

      You misspelled "now."

    13. Re:Freaked out for a second by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That was the joke.

    14. Re:Freaked out for a second by Altus · · Score: 1

      thankfully, these days children are not exposed to such horrible movies as Freejack.

      But hey, it was the height of Mick's acting career.

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    15. Re:Freaked out for a second by Locke2005 · · Score: 1

      True, Jagger's voice and the band's technical precision are at about the level of a just-formed garage band, but Jagger is a good songwriter and absolutely brilliant at marketing. (He attended the London School of Economics.)

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    16. Re:Freaked out for a second by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      **whoosh**
      Just so you aren't confused on this one too, that's the sound of the joke going over your head.

    17. Re:Freaked out for a second by camperslo · · Score: 4, Funny

      Will an analysis of the swap reveal Page faults?

    18. Re:Freaked out for a second by larry+bagina · · Score: 1

      I seem to recall Al Gore confusing Michael Jordan and Michael Jackson.

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    19. Re:Freaked out for a second by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I did, too. I even took it so far as to think "Fuck, is it time for those annoying fake April Fool's slashdot stories?" before realizing it's not.

    20. Re:Freaked out for a second by Raenex · · Score: 1

      unexceptional sound that sells well and has great popular appeal because its mediocrity appeals to the lowest common denominator

      I've not really a big Rolling Stones fan, but Paint It Black, Under My Thumb, Mother's Little Helper, and even Satisfaction are some outstanding songs off the top of my head. All of those songs are more interesting than the average love song from the time.

      Most bands don't even have one great song in them.

    21. Re:Freaked out for a second by CFTM · · Score: 2

      I suppose it depends on the generation you grew up in, to me MJ will always be Michael Jordan...

    22. Re:Freaked out for a second by Exclamation+mark! · · Score: 1

      I remember Jagger as the one WITH lips (and nose)... in fact, I remember Jagger as the one with facial features.

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    23. Re:Freaked out for a second by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Notice how all that stopped after Brian Jones died?

    24. Re:Freaked out for a second by The+Clockwork+Troll · · Score: 1

      insert joke involving context, bad memory, and Page having lots of cache

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    25. Re:Freaked out for a second by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Jimmy Page and Larry Niven?

    26. Re:Freaked out for a second by Raenex · · Score: 1

      You're a stupid apologist mediocrity-defending nigger. Eat shit and shit out that shit and then eat THAT shit and chew it slowly so you can savor the taste of your own lies. Fucker.

      That's a very deep, introspective, artistic, and inspiring message you've got there. You should get a job on talk radio.

    27. Re:Freaked out for a second by tehcyder · · Score: 1

      True, Jagger's voice and the band's technical precision are at about the level of a just-formed garage band, but Jagger is a good songwriter and absolutely brilliant at marketing. (He attended the London School of Economics.)

      Yes, most just-formed garage bands have written loads of songs as good as "As Time Goes By", "Paint It Black","Brown Sugar" and "Sympathy for The Devil".

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    28. Re:Freaked out for a second by tehcyder · · Score: 1

      Who is Michael Jordan? I don't remember hearing any of his songs.

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    29. Re:Freaked out for a second by tyrione · · Score: 1

      I briefly confused Larry Page with Larry Ellison. Whew. That would be terrible.

      Oh I know! One has run the world's leading database vendor for decades and is a titan of the industry. The other developed a search engine. Wow! You can see how one could confuse the two.

    30. Re:Freaked out for a second by OrangeTide · · Score: 1

      you lack the discipline for reading comprehension.

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    31. Re:Freaked out for a second by Locke2005 · · Score: 1

      Angie, Wild Horses, Honky Tonk Woman and even Far Away Eyes were all great songs, even though I sometimes think Mick was making fun of Country Music.

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    32. Re:Freaked out for a second by Stregano · · Score: 1

      Mick Jagger and Emilio Estaves, what could possibly go wrong?

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  3. Not unforeseen by bsDaemon · · Score: 3, Interesting

    With all the bad press from stupid shit that Schmidt has said in recent years, this isn't exactly an unforeseen turn of events. If Larry Page has been thumbing his nose at the world at large with his blatantly anti-privacy statements, he's been much more quiet about it, as I haven't heard anything to make me automatically suspicious of him.

    1. Re:Not unforeseen by Red+Flayer · · Score: 1, Funny

      I haven't heard anything to make me automatically suspicious of him.

      How about, "I work for Google, where your private information is our business."

      I mean, he didn't say it... but he didn't have to. It goes without saying.

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    2. Re:Not unforeseen by microbee · · Score: 1

      Really? Then how come Dick Cheney didn't replace George Bush as the president?

      Oh wait, maybe he did, just without the title.

    3. Re:Not unforeseen by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I've wondered if his hand smelled bad after having it up Georgie's back side for so many years.

    4. Re:Not unforeseen by Daniel+Phillips · · Score: 1

      I haven't heard anything to make me automatically suspicious of him.

      I have but let's see how it goes.

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    5. Re:Not unforeseen by mcvos · · Score: 1

      Thing is, Eric Schmidt did say that. Well, what he actually said was: if you want to keep it private, perhaps it's something you shouldn't be doing at all.

  4. yeah by Ryanrule · · Score: 2, Insightful

    startup : "dont be evil" :: mature corp : "x" solve for x

    1. Re:yeah by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      x is under constrained.

    2. Re:yeah by dgatwood · · Score: 1

      x = don't be really evil?

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    3. Re:yeah by TheRaven64 · · Score: 1

      Don't be evil (unless increases the share value)?

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    4. Re:yeah by mcvos · · Score: 1

      Be less evil than the other big guys.

  5. First Jobs, now Schmidt by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Ballmer next?

    1. Re:First Jobs, now Schmidt by MrEricSir · · Score: 4, Funny

      I think they should keep Ballmer for the entertainment value.

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    2. Re:First Jobs, now Schmidt by exomondo · · Score: 4, Funny

      while(1){ printf("developers "); }

    3. Re:First Jobs, now Schmidt by MrEricSir · · Score: 1

      It would be more Microsoft-y if you replaced printf with MessageBox.

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    4. Re:First Jobs, now Schmidt by Skuld-Chan · · Score: 1

      The Chair Manufacturing Association of America (CMAA) certainly approves this position.

    5. Re:First Jobs, now Schmidt by exomondo · · Score: 1

      It would be more Microsoft-y if you replaced printf with MessageBox.

      lol...i'll go you one better with AfxMessageBox ;)

    6. Re:First Jobs, now Schmidt by oatworm · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Oh, so...

      While 1
      MsgBox "Developers!", vbExclamation, "Developers!"
      Wend

      That a little more Microsofty?

    7. Re:First Jobs, now Schmidt by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh, so...
        That a little more Microsofty?

      May I remind you that you are posting on slashdot? The correct syntax is Micro$ofty (or, if you want to use ticker symbols, M$FTY would also do).

    8. Re:First Jobs, now Schmidt by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Missing
      On Error Resume Next

    9. Re:First Jobs, now Schmidt by Selfbain · · Score: 1

      while(1){ printf("developers "); sweat(); }

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    10. Re:First Jobs, now Schmidt by shutdown+-p+now · · Score: 2

      That would be WriteConsole,actually.

      But you still know that it's a Microsoft API because it's a function that takes 5 parameters, only one of which is the string that you want to print, and at least one of which is "reserved". ~

    11. Re:First Jobs, now Schmidt by Spykk · · Score: 1

      I'm pretty sure that wouldn't generate a single message box as 1 is false in vb6. -1 is true as it is based on basic. Of course, a glaring bug like that might just make it more Microsofty...

    12. Re:First Jobs, now Schmidt by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      10 ON ERROR RESUME NEXT
      20 MSGBOX "Developers!"
      30 GOTO 20

    13. Re:First Jobs, now Schmidt by tumbak · · Score: 1

      When asked to comment on the recent events, Ballmer had only this to say.

    14. Re:First Jobs, now Schmidt by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Microsoft VB syntax sucks

    15. Re:First Jobs, now Schmidt by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      mov ah, 9
      mov dx, 109
      int 21
      jp 100
      db "Developers!", 0d, 0a

  6. "Adult supervision no longer needed" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So once again, we have a major differentiating point between Google and the Boy Scouts.

  7. Beginning of the end? by bigsexyjoe · · Score: 5, Insightful

    He says he doesn't need "adult supervision" anymore? Well the child is the worst to judge these things.

    If Schmidt is such a good CEO, why change the setup? Page just thinks he'd be a better CEO because it is human nature to believe such things. I think this is an ego driven move and it could turn out very badly. At least they are keeping Schmidt on in a high level role.

    1. Re:Beginning of the end? by iammani · · Score: 1

      Nope, this the end of the beginning and the beginning of the new beginning.

    2. Re:Beginning of the end? by Lemmy+Caution · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Perhaps because Google has been playing catch-up for too long, and Schmidt's strategy has been too caution, too safe, too corporate. There have been a lot of failures and disappointments coming out of the Googleplex recently, and Google needs to recover some of the optimism and energy of its earlier years. Morale is rather low; a lot of their best researchers have left. The "always in beta" aspect doesn't work anymore, because it contradicts their "the cloud is ready for primetime" narrative.

      A big change was needed. I'm just surprised they did it.

    3. Re:Beginning of the end? by alvinrod · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The probably dropped him as CEO because he just comes off as creepy and not giving a damn about privacy; and this from the CEO of a company that's collecting information about everything and everyone. His insights and abilities are probably appreciated, but when he's in front of a camera he ends up saying something stupid that makes Google look evil. Here's an example from the WSJ. Here's another from the Atlantic. The crap he says makes him sound like someone who's Google's enemy and trying to scaremonger the public.

    4. Re:Beginning of the end? by farnsworth · · Score: 4, Informative

      He says he doesn't need "adult supervision" anymore? Well the child is the worst to judge these things.

      No, it is Eric Schmidt who said "Day-to-day adult supervision no longer needed!" It should be taken as "The founders no longer need an experienced management guy to run their company. They have matured over the last few years, and I think they'll do fine on their own."

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    5. Re:Beginning of the end? by DragonWriter · · Score: 1

      If Schmidt is such a good CEO, why change the setup?

      Per the release, its about streamlining; the Page-Brin-Schmidt triumvirate has been essentially co-leading the company, and will continue to do so on major decisions, but on a day-to-day basis Page will focus on "product development and technology strategy", Schmidt will focus on "on the deals, partnerships, customers and broader business relationships, government outreach and technology thought leadership", and Brin will focus on "strategic projects, in particular working on new products."

    6. Re:Beginning of the end? by Red+Flayer · · Score: 5, Funny
      Offtopic, I know, but re: your sig:

      There aint no pancake so thin it doesn't have two sides.

      Obviously you have not had the pleasure of eating a Möbius pancake. Once you can figure out where the butter and syrup go, they are delicious.

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    7. Re:Beginning of the end? by DragonWriter · · Score: 1

      The probably dropped him as CEO because he just comes off as creepy and not giving a damn about privacy

      I suspect that if that was the motivation, they wouldn't be keeping him as "executive chairman" with principal responsibility for most of the non-technical aspects of leading the company, including customer relations.

    8. Re:Beginning of the end? by VGPowerlord · · Score: 2

      Obviously you have not had the pleasure of eating a Möbius pancake. Once you can figure out where the butter and syrup go, they are delicious.

      You order them on the side, of course!

      Oh wait, you make them yourself?

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    9. Re:Beginning of the end? by TheRaven64 · · Score: 4, Interesting

      JWZ wrote that the beginning of the end of Netscape was when they stopped hiring people who were there because they wanted to change the world, and started hiring people who were there because they thought it was a cool place to work. I've visited Google offices a few times in the last couple of years, and everyone I've asked has told me that they're there because it's a cool place to work...

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    10. Re:Beginning of the end? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Troll

      Morale is rather low.

      BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

      Yes, we're all quite sad about our 10% raises, the $1000 cash, the new android phones, and the Google TV devices we were given for Christmas.

    11. Re:Beginning of the end? by TheGratefulNet · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I interviewed there a few times (separate occasions). it IS a cool place TO BE. to work? not sure, but certainly VERY comfortable to BE.

      I am quite sure its why most people are there. that and they can turn a blind eye to the fact that they are the power behind 'ad[vertising] men'. yup, just a newfangled advertising company. but its VERY cool to be on that campus, eat free lunches (gourmet, really), collect free cool phones and toys and have super company name recognition.

      but how many *believe* in what they do, or the ulterior motives of the megacorp? do they realize that they help the Big Co eat away our privacy? they look the other way and plan what they'll have for lunch.

      easy to understand if you've been there or even been around it.

      but again, few who see what the company is really about would be behind it. if it wasn't such a comfy status-clad place, few would want to contribute to what google is actually about.

      (data collection on you and targeted advertising. you think that's all noble lofty stuff? really?)

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    12. Re:Beginning of the end? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I started working for Netscape, because I wanted to be part of something amazing that shifted part of humanity. It was exciting, fun, and ambitious. You felt like you were doing something. More importantly, you felt like those around you were doing something.

      Then AOL/Sun/Oracle took over in the past decade and it quickly became a workplace where it was just a bunch of middle aged people working thre to pay a mortgage and afford braces for their kids. No boat rocking. No jokes. No ambition. No excitement. Someone else controlled your destiny and you just shut up and spin in your desginated cog-orbit.

    13. Re:Beginning of the end? by Lemmy+Caution · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Those are the steps of a business trying to improve morale, not the steps of a business with high morale.

    14. Re:Beginning of the end? by nedlohs · · Score: 1

      Except that the guy saying that is the "adult" who was giving the supervision and hence is hopefully the best judge of these things.

    15. Re:Beginning of the end? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I have seen this statement before, so I googled it. This quote (or variants of it) show up almost exclusively on slashdot stories, and are surprisingly frequent.

    16. Re:Beginning of the end? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Obviously you have not had the pleasure of eating a Möbius pancake

      Damn you, now I'm going to spend the rest of the day trying to figure out how to construct a pan to cook Möbius pancakes.

      I'll leave it to someone else to design the Klein syrup bottle.

    17. Re:Beginning of the end? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I am quite sure its why most people are there. that and they can turn a blind eye to the fact that they are the power behind 'ad[vertising] men'. yup, just a newfangled advertising company.

      That's backwards. The ad-men are there to finance US.

    18. Re:Beginning of the end? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      To be fair, that's a hell of a lot better than most places' attempts. A couple of free drinks at a company party is about the most I've seen.

    19. Re:Beginning of the end? by Daniel+Phillips · · Score: 1

      Per the release, its about streamlining

      Sounds like bafflegab to me. The only thing clear is: Larry to the front, Sergey and Eric to the back. I'm just wondering if this will go further. Scuse me Larry, just saying what everyone's thinking.

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    20. Re:Beginning of the end? by Daniel+Phillips · · Score: 1

      its VERY cool to be on that campus, eat free lunches (gourmet, really), collect free cool phones and toys and have super company name recognition.

      The blush can come off it. For example, one of the benefits was $150 of free stuff from the company store, whatever you want. Thing was, all the cool stuff was always gone when you tried to get it, and certain people who figured out how to get in right when the new stuff showed up had mountains of it hoarded on their desks. There's an awful, awful lot of that sort of gaming going on all the time and it does get to you, unless you're too oblivious to notice. Perhaps the latter being a good survival quality, but not necessarily what you'd want for a top performing organization,.

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    21. Re:Beginning of the end? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The failed Groupon acquisition probably had something to do with it. Let's assume that Schmidt was pushing it, maybe the two Stanford guys kept arguing that they could build a better version in house for far less money (undoubtedly true in a technical sense, but....). Schmidt is the guy who lives and breathes technology geopolitics, the Stanford guys like to think in terms of architecture and engineering. When Groupon left Google with an egg on its face, maybe that was a camels back breaking straw.

    22. Re:Beginning of the end? by deathguppie · · Score: 1

      You are obviously not married..

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    23. Re:Beginning of the end? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      but again, few who see what the company is really about would be behind it. if it wasn't such a comfy status-clad place, few would want to contribute to what google is actually about.

      (data collection on you and targeted advertising. you think that's all noble lofty stuff? really?)

      Google provide lots free services and access to information. The make most of their money through advertising with these services. Sometimes they collect information to better target this advertising. Why is that so sinister?

    24. Re:Beginning of the end? by QuantumBeep · · Score: 1

      Hollow, twisted ring, rotated fairly rapidly, rotisserie style.

      A sort of breakfast Tokamak.

    25. Re:Beginning of the end? by TaoPhoenix · · Score: 1

      Can we turn safesearch off now?

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    26. Re:Beginning of the end? by TaoPhoenix · · Score: 1

      "Larry to the front, Sergey and Eric to the back"

      Is that Business for Mullet?

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    27. Re:Beginning of the end? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      but how many *believe* in what they do, or the ulterior motives of the megacorp?

      Most of us do, and this is coming from someone who works directly on ads. Does Google make money on advertising? Yes, of course it does. But how is that a bad thing again? I love search, I love gmail, I love maps, I love Android, I love Chrome, I love docs, I love youtube, and I love all the other free services those ads pay for. Some of these services are largely there to support or defend the ads market (oh hi Android), but not all of them. Because of those same targeted ads you hate, Google has more money than it knows what to do with, and a lot of it goes towards ambitious ways of trying to make the internet better for no reason other than to make it better.

      Now, I understand that slashdot is full of cynics, especially when it comes to big organizations that have access to people's data. Fine. But when you're on the inside and see that all the horror stories about the evil things Google does with your data are so off-base as to be funny, it's a lot easier to believe in the company.

      Anyway, believe what you want, but Google employees are well equipped to get jobs anywhere we want, and Google isn't the only place offering nice perks. If we actually saw things the way you did, we would leave.

    28. Re:Beginning of the end? by mwvdlee · · Score: 1

      Yes, if somebody is succesfully leading a company but isn't good with public appearances, the LAST thing you want to do is put him in a position where he can lead the company but not appear in public...

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    29. Re:Beginning of the end? by mwvdlee · · Score: 1

      Being oblivious to office politics may just be a good criteria for hiring technical people.

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    30. Re:Beginning of the end? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I didn't see anything worth noting in the first article, and the quote in the second article was correct.

      Is this one of those things where if enough people repeat a falsehood, it must be true? Schmidt's reputation got slammed by the widespread slander and manipulation of his "anti-privacy" quote.

    31. Re:Beginning of the end? by TheRaven64 · · Score: 1

      Try jwz.org - that's where it comes from originally.

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    32. Re:Beginning of the end? by chudnall · · Score: 1

      Obviously you have not had the pleasure of eating a Möbius pancake.

      Damn you. Now I will not rest until I have figured out how to make a Möbius pancake.

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    33. Re:Beginning of the end? by ericvids · · Score: 1

      Those are the steps of a business trying to improve morale, not the steps of a business with high morale.

      Yes, sure, because a business gives raises and bonuses to improve morale, not to reward employees for hard work. And a business gives away gadgets to improve morale, not to improve their products by letting their own employees casually use them first hand. And a business does ALL of that to improve morale, not to follow through with their public promises when they take employees under their helm in the first place.

      Similarly, my post here is a step I took to improve my karma, not to offer a valid disagreeing opinion.

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    34. Re:Beginning of the end? by tehcyder · · Score: 1

      And at a company with really, really high morale, everyone works for no pay (except the directors, obviously).

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    35. Re:Beginning of the end? by tehcyder · · Score: 1

      Hollow, twisted ring, rotated fairly rapidly, rotisserie style.

      A sort of breakfast Tokamak.

      Mobius-shaped very hot stainless steel (?) non stick shape, dunk it into the batter, hopefully enough sticks/cooks quickly enough to make a pancake.

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    36. Re:Beginning of the end? by tehcyder · · Score: 1
      Why would working for either Netscape then or Google now lead you to believe you were ever going to change the world?

      All they've done between them is fuck up the internet and turn it into a giant shopping complex.

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    37. Re:Beginning of the end? by tehcyder · · Score: 1

      I started working for Netscape, because I wanted to be part of something amazing that shifted part of humanity

      Dude, they produced a fucking web browser, not a cure for cancer.

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    38. Re:Beginning of the end? by DragonWriter · · Score: 1

      The failed Groupon acquisition probably had something to do with it.

      If a failed acquisition had anything to do with it, why would the newly announced division of responsibilities leave him with responsibility for that kind of external deals?

    39. Re:Beginning of the end? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Schmidt was becoming an "evil" face to Google with some of his comments, don't you think? I think Page and Brin said "Enough... We're becoming exactly what we despise the most".
      BTW, Why did they ever pick Schmidt to begin with? Does anyone else remember his amazeballs crappy performance as CEO of Novell, where he oversaw the loss of their near-monopoly of NetWare? Way to go Eric.

    40. Re:Beginning of the end? by Lemmy+Caution · · Score: 1

      There may be other reasons to give money, gadgets etc away than a need to boost morale. But those giveaways are definitely not a sign of high morale in themselves, and they are, in fact, something companies do when they need to boost morale.

    41. Re:Beginning of the end? by bonch · · Score: 1

      You can't watch anything on your Google TVs because content providers aren't interested, your Android phones are messaging total strangers, and your cash raises come from Lars Rasmussen's previous salary.

      Thanks for confirming my suspicion that Google employees are anonymously trolling Slashdot, though.

    42. Re:Beginning of the end? by bonch · · Score: 2

      Because you're an advertising company that's collecting and indexing the world's personal information, anonymous Google employee.

    43. Re:Beginning of the end? by bonch · · Score: 1

      Did you somehow miss the entire Street View data-collection controversy that caused worldwide investigations of your company? Google's motives influence their products in other ways, such as the encouragement of free apps on Android that just so happen to rely on Google ads, or the adoption of WebM in Chrome in place of the already-standard H.264, even though Chrome retains support for MP3/AAC and ships the Flash plug-in.

      Google gives away free services to get people's personal information indexed in their advertising platform, not to be open or friendly. They're not trying to make the internet a better place because you're some benevolent charity. They're trying to make it an easier place for Google to get people's data. They even place links to their services at the top of their search results pages when certain hardcoded queries are entered--change one letter or add a space, and the Google link disappears from the #1 spot. Remember that Google cites unbiased search results in response to monopoly scrutiny.

      They profess openness in order to attract the free software community, yet its search and advertising engine is as closed source and proprietary as Windows. And again, Chrome is shipping the Flash plug-in and supports MP3/AAC. Waving the openness flag is a cynical attempt to try to make people think Google is somehow not self-serving.

      I'm sure there are Microsoft employees who love Windows, love Internet Explorer, love Bing, love Windows Phone, and love .NET, and they don't understand why people don't see how Microsoft is just trying to make the computing world a better place. As an insider receiving a paycheck, you're biased, and your views are colored. In every Google article, anonymous Google defenders suddenly show up, and I'm glad to see that some of them are finally acknowledging that they work for the company.

    44. Re:Beginning of the end? by bonch · · Score: 1

      Netscape is the reason you started seeing URLs in TV commercials. They were one of the catalysts for the explosive growth of the web. They definitely shifted part of humanity.

    45. Re:Beginning of the end? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      data collection on you and targeted advertising. you think that's all noble lofty stuff? really?

      Well, advertising, when done properly, oils the wheels of economy. It helps bringing customers and product/service providers together.

      And better aimed adertising, which offers more relevant results for an individual, is a good thing. What do you prefer, to be flooded by trash advertising that your mind needs to sift through and filter, or much less of it, and more relevant to you?

      Me personally, I almost never click on those adwords/adsense links, but a few years ago they really helped me in suggesting a much better DNS provider than the one I were using back then and would probably be using the inferior one till today if not for the targeted ad.

    46. Re:Beginning of the end? by Deliveranc3 · · Score: 1

      This level of information about people isn't necessary. The improvement of direct advertising is so huge it would still be ginormous without using confidential information. Yes it's a terrifying prospect but Google can't devote effort to reassuring everyone without becoming that little bit of spin-doctor evil.

      What they need is for people to really love being at the campus and buy into the uber geek element of their info lunches. It's cool that you can do something that amazing at lunch but if you look at is a corporate training and brainstorming it seems a little dull, hopefully the "geeks learn for fun" thing will keep the Google team ticking and cohesive.

      It's those guys who spend all day negotiating with law enforcement and other corporations who will want to take Google into dangerous waters to be more "attractive." As long as Googlers remember how destitute corporate America is and that they have "The new shizzle" when it comes to advertising they shouldn't have any problems, they don't need to bend to anyone.

    47. Re:Beginning of the end? by ericvids · · Score: 1

      But those giveaways are definitely not a sign of high morale in themselves

      Nor are they a sign of low morale in themselves. But the post that was modded troll makes a point -- he's HAPPY with the toys and bonuses. Does that look like low morale to you? (Of course we don't know if he's really from google, but if I worked there myself I'd be pretty happy too with those bonuses.) Heck, it even points to a possibility that they are happy with the products of their OWN work so much that they like having those products as rewards -- if they had low morale, there's a high probability that they won't want to see those products ever again.

      they are, in fact, something companies do when they need to boost morale.

      Yes, but not in Google's case. It was an annual thing that they do. They've been documented to give away phones three years ago, and that was before the boom of Android. So the case that you are making, that it was intended to boost morale, is pretty weak compared to the alternate explanation.

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    48. Re:Beginning of the end? by Lemmy+Caution · · Score: 1

      I do not use the giveaways in and of themselves as the basis for observing low morale at Google. You're right: they generally have done this every year. However, they are still the kind of thing intended to boost morale: they are not evidence of high morale.

      The real basis for the call of low morale is the stream of defections to new start-ups or competitors, especially Facebook, and the failure of many Google products and projects, especially Google TV, Google Wave,and Google Buzz. And the various statements by industry analysts, often with inside, high level sources, that morale is low.

    49. Re:Beginning of the end? by alexo · · Score: 1

      Well, advertising, when done properly, oils the wheels of economy. It helps bringing customers and product/service providers together.

      Well, advertising, when done as it is done nowadays, is borderline fraud. It helps cheat the customers by manipulating them into paying more for an inferior product (Monster cables anyone? Bose speakers?) or purchasing a product they do not need (seen any TV ads lately?)

      And better aimed adertising, which offers more relevant results for an individual, is a good thing. What do you prefer, to be flooded by trash advertising that your mind needs to sift through and filter, or much less of it, and more relevant to you?

      It is much easier to ignore lies on generic subjects you have no particular interest in than to ignore lies specifically tailored to influence you.

  8. Schmidt to take over Apple? by BitterKraut · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I don't see how this could be a smart move for Google. Page and Brin may have become too big for their boots, but I suspect something else. Perhaps Schmidt will follow Steve Jobs to lead Apple.

    1. Re:Schmidt to take over Apple? by Stregano · · Score: 2

      Same great iSeries of products, now with less black turtlenecks

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    2. Re:Schmidt to take over Apple? by DragonWriter · · Score: 4, Informative

      I don't see how this could be a smart move for Google. Page and Brin may have become too big for their boots, but I suspect something else.

      The official explanation seems plausible: its streamlining operations and clarifying roles and responsibilities in an organization where three people have been functionally working together as co-leaders (and, in a sense, will continue to do so.)

      Perhaps Schmidt will follow Steve Jobs to lead Apple.

      Staying on as "executive chairman" without being CEO and still keeping primary responsibility for most of the "business" (non-technical) operations suggest that that's not all that likely.

    3. Re:Schmidt to take over Apple? by partyguerrilla · · Score: 1

      Developing a taste for human liver would help also.

    4. Re:Schmidt to take over Apple? by tehcyder · · Score: 1

      Jobs isn't dead yet, you insensitive clod!

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  9. In other news by should_be_linear · · Score: 4, Funny

    Hours after suspension of adult supervision, new CEO Larry Page gave Android Platform to Apple in exchange for remote controlled car and a two video games.

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    1. Re:In other news by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      In his defense it was a really cool remote controlled iCar.

    2. Re:In other news by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But everyone knows, vodafone has the best RC cars.

  10. Hopefully Schmidt's privacy ideas leave with him by schwit1 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2010/09/google-mocked/

    "If you have something that you don’t want anyone to know, maybe you shouldn't be doing it in the first place."

    "I think that over time, on the internet, there will be less anonymity. And I actually think that's good"

  11. Re:Hopefully Schmidt's privacy ideas leave with hi by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Nope - he's just the only one dumb enough to publicly state them

  12. In reality Schmidt proclaims by nurb432 · · Score: 1, Insightful

    I'm rich enough now and don't feel like working.

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    1. Re:In reality Schmidt proclaims by DragonWriter · · Score: 1

      I'm rich enough now and don't feel like working.

      Right. Which is why he is staying on as "executive chairman" and retaining day-to-day responsibility for most of the business operations.

    2. Re:In reality Schmidt proclaims by happylight · · Score: 1

      He probably pulled one of these...

      Schmidt: Let's pretend. You're the Department of Transportation, and you discover that our company intentionally did nothing about leather seats cured in third world countries with chemicals we know cause birth defects? Brake linings that fail after a thousand miles. Fuel injectors that burn people alive.

      Board: Just who the fuck do you think you are?! Get out! You're fired!

      Schmidt: What about this? Keep me on payroll as "chairman." In exchange for my salary, I'll keep my mouth shut. I won't need to come to the office. I can do this job from home.

      Board: You little fucker...

    3. Re:In reality Schmidt proclaims by tehcyder · · Score: 1

      No, because now Google are officially Evil, they would just have drowned him in an acid bath or something.

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  13. I wonder if this means by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Google will become less creepy. Schmidt's thoughts on privacy is what's kept me away from Android and sent me running to Nokia.

  14. Something out of Buckaroo Banzai by PolygamousRanchKid+ · · Score: 1

    I thought Larry Wall. What's with all these computer folks named Larry? It reminds me of Buckaroo Banzai , where all the aliens are named John: John Whorfin, John Yaya, John Smallberries, and John Bigbooté . . .

    I smell a similar conspiracy with aliens in the computer industry all named Larry.

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    1. Re:Something out of Buckaroo Banzai by Monchanger · · Score: 1

      They were named after computing culture icon- Larry Laffer.

  15. Phew!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    For a moment there I read Eric Schmidt Out, Larry Wall In As Google CEO

  16. Yahoo by JustOK · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    I read about it on Yahoo! news

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  17. ObStarWars by martin-boundary · · Score: 2
    Schmidt: " Good, I can feel your anger. I am defenseless. Take your weapon. Strike me down with all of your hatred and your journey towards the dark side will be complete!"

    Page: "Zing!"

  18. Good for him! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    He's good at what he's doing. He took Google from a project run by two Harvard students in one of their mothers's garage to a multi-national, multi-billion company.

    That's pretty fucking good, considering how many engineers's paycheques Google is paying.

    Let him move on to another company and let him work his magic again.

    1. Re:Good for him! by TheGratefulNet · · Score: 1

      yeah, the world needs more companies run by and for twentysomethings...

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    2. Re:Good for him! by CFTM · · Score: 1

      Facebook = Harvard
      Google = Stanford

  19. technology thought leadership by bitbucketeer · · Score: 1

    I'd like to get paid to sit around all day and just think about technology. I'd send Google my resume, but the technology I'd think about is over thirty years old.

    1. Re:technology thought leadership by presidenteloco · · Score: 1

      So it can never be trusted.

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  20. If that were the case, he'd never have joined by rsborg · · Score: 4, Informative

    I'm sure Schmidt was comfortably rich after being the CTO of Sun and the CEO of Novell.

    Guys like him don't do it for the (extra) money, but because they want to be/do something important.

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    1. Re:If that were the case, he'd never have joined by Stuntmonkey · · Score: 1

      I agree Schmidt's decision to lead Google probably wasn't about money, more likely a desire to leave a mark, change the world, beat the competition, ... The reasons could be many, but as far as money goes he could have retired after Novell and lived out a nice comfortable life.

      My hunch is that both Sun and Novell left Schmidt with a bad taste in his mouth. At both companies he had his ass handed to him by Microsoft. He can retire from day-to-day life at Google with satisfaction knowing that he's successfully built a great company. He isn't the product visionary like Jobs, who loves the process of building and honing great products and will do it for as long as he can. At this point Schmidt is probably feeling (perhaps correctly) that there's nothing left for him to prove.

    2. Re:If that were the case, he'd never have joined by tehcyder · · Score: 1

      Guys like him don't do it for the (extra) money, but because they want to be/do something important.

      If you're already rich and want to do something important, there are plenty of charities out there who would be grateful of some help.

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  21. Clearly threatened by a real competitor in search? by rsborg · · Score: 5, Interesting
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  22. So.. Then uh... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Who is the one that FUCKED UP Youtube's Homepage? Eric or Larry?

  23. Re:Hopefully Schmidt's privacy ideas leave with hi by _Sprocket_ · · Score: 5, Interesting

    http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2010/09/google-mocked/

    "If you have something that you don’t want anyone to know, maybe you shouldn't be doing it in the first place."

    What's more interesting is the next piece:

    But if you really need that kind of privacy, the reality is that search engines, including Google, do retain this information for some time. And [...] we're all subject, in the US, to the Patriot Act, and it is possible that that information could be made available to the authorities.

    Schmidt is telling us that Google is being served PATRIOT Act notices without breaking the law and telling us that they're being served. It's a pity everyone is hung up on the nothing-to-hide idiocy. Of course, it's little wonder we're missing the important pieces when served up ham-fisted attacks by the likes of Consumer Watchdog.

  24. Sell GOOG by BulletMagnet · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Hmmmm....Maybe Schmidt sees the handwriting on the wall, like he did with the last employer he left....

  25. Actually no, he didn't by 101010_or_0x2A · · Score: 1

    He said that *his* adult supervision was not required, referring to the common view that he was the "adult supervision" for the 2 kids. Not the other way round

  26. Re:Hopefully Schmidt's privacy ideas leave with hi by martin-boundary · · Score: 3, Interesting

    It's a pity everyone is hung up on the nothing-to-hide idiocy.

    The reason everyone is hung up on that "idiocy" is that Schmidt is a hypocrit.

    It's all right for him to tell others that they should kiss their privacy goodbye, but when his own privacy is breached in the same way, he doesn't think twice about retaliating with all of google's resources.

    Moreover, it's a bit rich for the CEO of a search company to claim that privacy can't be respected by search engines, when he's making the rules as CEO. Corruption starts from the top, and he's responsible for a lot of bad choices Google has made towards privacy in the past and present, and that "idiocy" tidbit sums up his actions pretty well.

  27. Pure sociopath by Swampash · · Score: 1

    In the immortal words of Fake Steve Jobs:

    Ever read a book called “What Makes Sammy Run?” about the world’s biggest scumbag, a Hollywood schemer named Sammy Glick? Well, Sammy Glick had nothing on Eric Schmidt. I’m still kind of stunned because the guy just called me to talk about Nexus One and he’s acting like there’s no problem. Or maybe he knows there’s a problem and he’s just calling to see what I’ll say, like he’s daring me to call him on out on this, because honestly that is the kind of sick sadistic twisted little fuck he is. He’s got zero shame. None. Zero.

    And I know I should just be all cool and say nothing about any of that and just pretend I’m busy and don’t have time to chat, but somehow this sleazy fucker gets to me and I just lose my Zen and start giving him shit.

    I’m like, Dude, do you not remember all that stuff you told me about not making a phone, back when you were still not recusing yourself from iPhone discussions during board meetings? You swore, and I mean you looked me in the eye and swore, that you would never make a phone. He says, We’re not making a phone. HTC is making it.

    I told him if he wanted to use that line on the retards in the hackery that’s one thing but please don’t insult me with it. He goes, Okay, it’s our phone. But we’re just trying to give consumers more choice and grow the ecosystem by forming strategic partnerships and enhancing the value of the user experience by promoting openness and innovation to create solutions that better address user needs because at the end of the day Google’s mission is to organize the world’s information and make it universally accessible and useful.

    I’m like, What did you just say? He goes, I have no idea. I’m reading it from a card here on my desk.

    So I ask him what about all the crap he told me about how they weren’t ever going to build a phone, and he says, At the time I made those statements, they were true. I wasn’t lying.

    This is how Eric talks. It’s amazing.

    http://www.fakesteve.net/2010/01/im-trying-to-remember-how-many-times-eric-swore-to-me-that-google-would-never-make-a-phone.html

  28. Re:Hopefully Schmidt's privacy ideas leave with hi by EriDay · · Score: 1

    This is Google jettisoning a little bit of their evil.

  29. A decade as CEO is a long time by Animats · · Score: 1

    Ten years is a long time for a Fortune 500 CEO. The average is about 6.5 years.

  30. The problem with Schmidt is ... by Super+Dave+Osbourne · · Score: 2

    he brought in a very unethical and overtly authoritarian leadership to what could have been a very 'don't do evil' company with great potential and shaped it to be the latest extension of the NSA for the US governmint/CIA. Its sad, but its true.

  31. Re:Hopefully Schmidt's privacy ideas leave with hi by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You dumbass. Schmidt was very blatantly stating that the US government subpoenas their data and there is nothing they can do about it. That's as honest as Google could possibly be without shutting down entirely. But stupid fucks like you go and misquote and bitch and moan at them for their honesty, as if companies like Microsoft who won't even admit to what is causing their phone to surreptitiously download gigs of data are better companies to have around?

  32. Re:Hopefully Schmidt's privacy ideas leave with hi by $0.02 · · Score: 1

    A perfect candidate for the CEO of facebook.

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  33. Re:Hopefully Schmidt's privacy ideas leave with hi by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    retaliating with all of google's resources

    "we will pound you into the ground until you are mush, and then we will give not a single interview to that mush!"

  34. Re:Chair by TaoPhoenix · · Score: 1

    Could that be enough to pull Grand Rapid into a position of leadership to rescue Michigan from Yahoo News in the "Worst State" articles?

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  35. Re:Clearly threatened by a real competitor in sear by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    DDG doesn't change anything about how search engines work. Certainly some geeks will use it, but it offers nothing that hasn't been done before.

  36. What harm has google done you? by walterbyrd · · Score: 2

    I really want to know.

    I see all kinds of posts screaming, and crying, about having their privacy invaded by google. I am bewildered. What has actually happened to these people? Are they just parroting the Microsoft propanganda, or has google really hurt these people?

    If you are complaining about google invading your privacy, then please tell us, anonymously if you like, exactly how google hurt you personally. Don't just echo the anti-google slogans, tell us exactly how google hurt you.

    1. Re:What harm has google done you? by bonch · · Score: 1

      It's the principal of privacy and an individual's control over their online identity. If you don't understand already, you never will.

    2. Re:What harm has google done you? by walterbyrd · · Score: 1

      In other words, google provides you with a plethora of services for free, google has done you no harm what-so-ever. Yet you buy into the Microsoft alarmist smear campaign.

      Exactly how has google "invaded your privacy" or anybody's privacy?

  37. Re:Clearly threatened by a real competitor in sear by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Oh yes, a site which does nothing but scrape Bing results and has a founder which used to do black hat SEO. I'm sure they're very worried.

  38. Re:Hopefully Schmidt's privacy ideas leave with hi by bonch · · Score: 1

    Schmidt is telling us that Google is being served PATRIOT Act notices without breaking the law and telling us that they're being served.

    Uh, no, he didn't say Google was being "served PATRIOT Act notices." He simply said that, if information was requested under the Patriot Act, Google would be subject to the law.

  39. Re:Hopefully Schmidt's privacy ideas leave with hi by bonch · · Score: 1

    Absolutely nowhere did Schmidt say Google was actively issuing subpoenas for data. He just said that, if information was ever requested under the Patriot Act, Google would be required to follow the law.

  40. Re:Hopefully Schmidt's privacy ideas leave with hi by bonch · · Score: 1

    Google was actively issuing

    Should be "Google was actively being issued."

  41. Re:Clearly threatened by a real competitor in sear by bonch · · Score: 1

    "The iPod doesn't change anything about how MP3 players work. Certainly some geeks will use it, but it offers nothing that hasn't been done before."

  42. Re:Good by bonch · · Score: 1

    Huffington Post is Ariana Huffington's lame left-wing version of Drudge Report. I see today that they repeated the inaccurate Betelguese story and misattributed information in the story. Wonderful.

  43. Re:Hopefully Schmidt's privacy ideas leave with hi by _Sprocket_ · · Score: 1

    One of the fun things about the Patriot Act. The National Security Letter tends to come with a gag order. Those gag orders can last for years.

    Granted - I might be reading too much in to the statement. But if Google were being served NSLs, I wouldn't be surprised if they're restricted from stating that they are. The numbers are around 50k NSLs a year. I would expect that Google has seen more than a hand-full.

    In a discussion about privacy, I would think this sort of thing would be salient to the point.