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Japan Says No To PlayStation Network Restart
tekgoblin writes "Although Sony may be restoring services on the PlayStation Network around the world, one country has said 'No.' Japan has not yet given Sony approval to start up their online services, making the company wait until they have proven that they have taken the necessary measures to secure their network against another incident."
A government that actually does its job (protect the citizens' rights). Good for them.
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This is a very nice move by Japan - rather than bending their laws to maximize corporate profit, a disturbing trend, they do the absolute opposite and force Sony to take measures that protect customers (which will cost Sony quite a bit). Customers win, Sony loses. Excellent, they really deserved it!
It says a lot when the country a company is headquartered in tells them their stuff stinks.
+1 Japan for asking what everyone else lacked the sense to question.
Seems like Japan used to bend over backwards for Sony. This ongoing outage is seriously harmful to Sony's reputation. It's deservedly so, but interesting to see happen nonetheless, especially at this time when Japan could use a little financial love.
Can Sony really be this incompetent, and/or incapable of hiring in the necessary talent?
"You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
let's face it, a ton of the people who bought the PS3 version of Portal did it just for the "free" copies on the Mac and PC. I can finally get it on all my platforms in my house... the PS3 so far is a one game platform in my house and that's Little Big Planet (and LBP2).
Can someone remind me how can a government say "no" to someone operating a legal service again?
proven that they have taken the necessary measures to secure their network
IIRC, one rather glaring issue was the use of a bone-stock Apache install that evidently hadn't kept up with any security updates. I wonder what sort of Powerpointology Sony will be needed to prove worthiness, and whether there's enough folks at the Media and Content Industry department to knowledgeably gage the degree to which Sony got its act together?
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Sony is saying that this is a voluntary effort to cooperate with Japanese authorities, as they are not actually legally obliged to wait for permission to restart their services in Asia.
However, it's worth pointing out that in Japan it is common to allow companies and individuals to take "voluntary" actions to save face or prevent a public appearance of contention. There is also generally a greater public expectation of privacy amongst the Japanese, so their regulators are more less amused with Sony than American authorities.
Make of Sony's voluntary claims what you will.
In one story we have commenters berating the US government for unveiling a "cybersecurity plan," and here we have them praising another government for ordering a private corporation from continuing operations.
What gives?
Portal 2 hasn't even been released over here yet, so PS3 owners should know what to expect in advance.
I'll stick with my offline xbox and my ultra-retro graphics
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Yea right, If anything that probably has strengthen Sony's resolve to keep "Other OS" out. Not that I support Sony having removed the option. But if you make a choice to do something then you get a bunch of criminals pretending to be activists attack you from the choice. It is a strong message that that feature was used by the wrong sort of people, who they will be better off in the future not come back.
If they were true Hactivists they would have hacked their playstations to support the feature once again and posted how to to it to the public.
The latter is Civil disobedience. The first is just criminal.
If something is so important that you feel the need to post it on the internet... It probably isn't that important.
You're an idiot, dumb anonymous xenophobe.
Unless you live in a pure communist state, your working class is paid by capitalist industry.
OK, so how is this different from censorship?
I can't tell if you're serious or trolling.... I'm going to assume you're serious since you didn't post AC. IIRC they DID hack the PS3 to support Other OS (isn't this what ghotz did?) the PSN "Hactivist" attacks didn't start until Sony decided to sue ghotz BECAUSE he "posted how to do it to the public."
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Looks like the rest of the world is the test bed for the new security "upgrade". I wonder if they prefer that all other customers get hosed if it fails again and that the core consumer group gets preferred treatment in order from losing further confidence in at this stage. is it possible they do this to shake down and other latent issues while saving (what little is left) face in Japan?
If they were true Hactivists they would have hacked their playstations to support the feature once again and posted how to do it to the public.
What rock have you been under? That's EXACTLY what they did. That's why Sony sued George Hotz. Because he posted how to hack the PS3 on his block and via youtube for all to see. Also, you're assuming that the people who hacked the PSN are in any way associated with the same crowd asking for OtherOS to be back and not just some opportunistic crackers.
Can someone remind me how can a government say "no" to someone operating a legal service again?
When it looks like you're operating it in a way that does not comply with all of the laws.
You can read into that the Japanese government believes that PSN is not a legal service in Japan if PSN does not protect the privacy of the users.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8AyVh1_vWYQ
Again I hold to the fact that I am not convinced that this breach is even connected to geohot in any way more then an opportunistic coverup to cover their asses. I think this was a mass CC# theft intended to use the current tensions between anon and sony as a distraction, possibly even borrow some of anon's members to do a DDOS and keep sony + legal authorities busy chasing 13 year olds while the criminals are unloading money into offshore bank accounts.
When I saw US was near the top of the list for the PSN getting back on was all I could think of was Xbox 360 sales, US vs. Japan.
The issue isn't patches...
The issue is that they didn't encrypt the data so that an embarrassing intrusion became a financially damaging intrusion for their customers.
The two things I am left with that really piss me off are:
- Why haven't they given me the last 4 digits of the card they had on file? Which card should I be watching? They gave the whole damn number to the intruder so telling me the last 4 digits isn't a big deal.
- Why do they even require a card number (which they can't be trusted with) when I never do ANYTHING on the network that requires payment.
Hahahahahahahahahahahahaaaaa! FUCK YOU SONY! OH IN YOUR FACE!!!! *dance wildly while singing GO JAPAN GO JAPAN*
Holy fuck this has been the biggest bunch of epic bullshit to come down the pike out of a corporation in a long time. ONE MONTH of being down, Sweet Jesus, where is the lynch mob? Has anyone been following what a bunch of idiots Sony is with ALL of their security? Reuters had to call and tell them about massive screw ups they had in basic security from a causal outside probe by a security expert. Their expert used a browser and google and found big fat gaping holes in their security. The guy didn't even dig into them hard...lol...what EPIC FUCK OFFS!!!
Yes, I am one of the pissed off people who's information got ripped off thanks to their completely shitty security. Yes, I am one of the pissed off people who's new PS3 will NOT let me use NetFlix. I am one of the pissed off people who's games are FUCKING NIGH WORTHLESS because they require the PSN.
WTF do we have to do to get a positive reaction? Do we have to collectively wrap our PS3, games and accessories in burlap, soak it in gas and launch it through the window of the store we got it from? Why is it only Japan that is telling Sony to do the right thing? Where the holy fuck is our piece of shit government in all of this? We pay these worthless cocksuckers enough in taxes, they should have been on this weeks ago. Leave it to our corporate lackey government to set with their thumbs up their collective asses on this while we take a dick in the ass.
This just punctuates why we have to be politically active in addition to our other chores in life. We have people in power right now that come from a previous era, they are corrupt as fuck, and seriously haven't a damn clue about tech. We need to send these sorry old fuckers packing out to pasture and get some people in that know what they are doing. We need a new party, of new blood, new ideas and that is NOT FOR FUCKING SALE.
Take the Red Pill.
6,341,950 PS3 Units Sold in Japan.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PlayStation_3#Sales_and_production_costs
Say the average PS3 uses 110W as typical power consumption.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PlayStation_3_hardware
= 700 Million Watts.
= 700 Megawatts.
All those PS3's turned off is saving a lot of electricity!
Yes I am aware of the obscene amount of over simplification.
I just got off the line with Clear.com helpdesk.
The doofushead on the other end of the line posted my clear username/login info for me, even though I never asked for it.
People are just so clueless with security, it is pretty disgusting.
Japan forcing Sony to prove they have secured there network - I like this. I like this a lot.
Ultra-retro graphics on an xbox? How old are you, 12?
Some guy whose blog appears to have been deleted alleges in a newsgroup posting (archived in Google Groups) that the U.S. Government is behind the Sony data breaches. Not sure I believe that, but it could explain Japan's stance...
The suicide rate has spike since this started? Even more so in countries where there is recognized gaming dependency issues.
I'm sorry, has anyone mentioned that you are an ass? Or maybe it's a mental issue? Off your meds are you?