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THE_WELL_HUNG_OYSTER writes "Over the years, I've had numerous scanners equipped with automatic document feeders — and all of them jam or grab multiple pages at a time (thereby missing pages). Like you, I've got years of tax returns and legal documents to scan, but with these kinds of barriers, it would take months to scan everything. Enterprise-grade machines cost 5 figures. How do Slashdotters become paper-free?"

311 comments

  1. Evernote by xanadu113 · · Score: 5, Informative

    Try using Evernote and scan as you go, keeping up on all current items. Do extra ones when you have the time.

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    1. Re:Evernote by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Better yet, use the roundfile. 99.999% of all paperwork doesn't need to exist, much less be saved digitally. Even tax documents sunset in just a few years.

    2. Re:Evernote by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      What they both said:

      Scan as you go.
      Toss/shred stuff not really needed.
      And sign-up for electronic delivery: most of my tax documents are online in PDF format from the various entities. As well as all my monthly statements, canceled checks, etc.

    3. Re:Evernote by Opportunist · · Score: 5, Informative

      Plus, most companies are quite happy to deliver electronically, since it saves them money. Check with your delivery companies, they might even offer a discount if you go paperless.

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    4. Re:Evernote by icebraining · · Score: 2

      Some of them actually charge you more, though.

    5. Re:Evernote by DarkVader · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Somehow, putting my personal confidential documents on somebody else's server seems like a very, very bad idea. I'm not at all sure why you'd suggest it.

      Scan as you go makes sense for new documents, but I think THE_WELL_HUNG_OYSTER's question really was a request for our opinions on bulk scanning solutions for already existing paper documents, not an ill-advised "cloud" storage solution for new ones.

      Unfortunately, I don't have a good answer either, scanners generally prove to be quite the annoyance.

    6. Re:Evernote by martin-boundary · · Score: 1

      Evernote is proprietary. Will you be able to read those documents in 20 years? (20 years ago, Microsoft Word was in version 4. Can you still read those documents properly today on your tablet or smartphone, or even on Windows 7?).

    7. Re:Evernote by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, you sure can.

    8. Re:Evernote by Architect_sasyr · · Score: 1

      In the past I've supplied myself and clients with something simple like a HP 4500. You can get them for ~$80AU depending where you go (sometimes as high as $150 - still nowhere near the 5 digit range). It has, among other things, a decent scanner and an automatic feeder. I suggest the HP, not because I'm affiliated, but because the earlier models cost about the same, and used to survive scanning POD documents in warehousing/ transport offices, so I've always stuck with them.

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    9. Re:Evernote by tbird81 · · Score: 2

      (20 years ago, Microsoft Word was in version 4. Can you still read those documents properly today on your tablet or smartphone, or even on Windows 7?).

      To quote the anon:
      "Yes, you sure can."

    10. Re:Evernote by Dogtanian · · Score: 1

      Plus, most companies are quite happy to deliver electronically, since it saves them money.

      I've heard of people in the UK who opted to go paperless, then later required their credit card or bank statements (or whatever it was) in printed form to get a loan or something- and the bank charged them up the wazoo to get the necessary statements in traditional printed format.

      In short, I wouldn't go paperless unless I was sure that everyone else that I was likely to be dealing with in the forseeable future would be happy with the paperless and/or scanned paper versions instead of traditional paper statements.

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    11. Re:Evernote by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Due to postal problems in my area, I move most of my statements (credit, utility etc) to paperless so that I would get them via email. Also, you do not really need to keep Visa (gas, electric, etc) statements forever. You can shred and burn all IRS after 7 years.

      I have a plastic file box that I hold all agreements in. I shred lost of stuff that is sent but not worth keeping. Also, since insurance re-issues every (6 mos Auto, 12 mos Home) all those declarations and invoices are worthless when the new one comes in.

      The trick is to figure out what you really need to keep and what you really need as paper. You will find that doing that will cut down dramatically. Then you can scan the rest if you want.

    12. Re:Evernote by Cimexus · · Score: 1

      Wow, that sucks. :(

      I'm 'paperless' with all my banks (four banks in two different countries) and they all allow me simply to log into the website and print off a statement that looks exactly like the ones they mail you. In fact, if you want, they'll send you a PDF of your statement every quarter by email (again, an identical document to the one they previously mailed). Print it out and voila, there's your 'traditional printed statement'.

      Not that I've every actually had to do it, but it's nice to know I can...

    13. Re:Evernote by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Tax documents can and should be kept forever. While there is a 3-year limit for normal audits,
      if there is an allegation of tax evasion or fraud, there is no time-limit.

    14. Re:Evernote by Eunuchswear · · Score: 1

      I've heard of people in the UK who opted to go paperless, then later required their credit card or bank statements (or whatever it was) in printed form to get a loan or something- and the bank charged them up the wazoo to get the necessary statements in traditional printed format.

      And here in France my electricity and gas companies are always nagging me to go paperless for my bills.

      But many administrative functions require proof of residence, and a recent gas/electric/water bill is the most commonly used proof of residence.

      So I keep getting the paper ones.

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    15. Re:Evernote by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Spend a few of minutes page numbering your stack of important documents on one corner. Stick the whole lot in the scanner and go for lunch. Flick through the scanned output, make a note of all the missing page numbers and rescan the missed documents. Assuming a scanner miss rate of 1-2% and maybe a thousand pages to scan, that's only a couple of dozen missed pages to rescan.

    16. Re:Evernote by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, except most companies email you a notice that your statement is available, then require you to login, and somehow find the statement, then download it. It is too much for me to figure out each system. I prefer a paper statement, wasteful perhaps, but it keeps my life simple. I find very few statements need to be kept anyway. I can just toss the statement away once it is paid.

    17. Re:Evernote by Dajhan · · Score: 1

      I work in a company that uses super old document archives. And the scanned document images still look decent when they were microfilmed. The scanned images using scanners also look perfectly legible (and can be magnified too, you can do it on microfilmed docs too). Its only anoying if either you don't own one, or dont know how to use one.

  2. You don't have to BUY a machine by chronosan · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Find someone who'll rent one to you.

    1. Re:You don't have to BUY a machine by Green+Salad · · Score: 2

      or, work for a well-equipped firm. Ask to come in one weekend to use their enterprise-grade machine. Avoid the build-up with a consumer-grade machine.

    2. Re:You don't have to BUY a machine by peragrin · · Score: 2

      Or simply make it a new resolution, and know that you have to keep the paper version for five years and ignore the past.

      seriously I have been mostly paper free for 5 years now. I have hard copies of stuff that I need to, but if your just storing it, two digital copies stored in different locations works much better, I have 13 years of electronically filed PDF tax returns.

      Paper work has little meaning if you don't want it too.

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    3. Re:You don't have to BUY a machine by SkimTony · · Score: 3, Informative

      I'll second this. My office has a networked Xerox Multi-function, and it handles scan-to-pdf very nicely, depositing a PDF in my inbox. Since I'm not using any paper or toner (as I would if I were making copies at the office) no one cares if I stay a few minutes late to run a sheaf or two through the scanner.

    4. Re:You don't have to BUY a machine by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I do it at work. My employer has expensive copiers with scanning function that work better and faster than any consumer level product. Scans reams of paper in no time.

    5. Re:You don't have to BUY a machine by modmans2ndcoming · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Until someone figures out that you are shortening the life if the feeder and scanner

    6. Re:You don't have to BUY a machine by Stormthirst · · Score: 2

      I don't know much about enterprise grade ADFs. but I imagine if a company has one the impact of a single user will have little impact on the overall life span of such a machine. If it is such a mission critical machine, you would hope they would have a service contract which regularly replaces parts whether they need replacing or not.

    7. Re:You don't have to BUY a machine by SkimTony · · Score: 2

      Well, technically I'm using company electricity, too. However, I strongly suspect that this machine will be swapped out with a newer model in a few years (they're leased, I think) which will be well before the sheet feeder wears out. Most copiers die when the paper feed/print mechanisms wear out, not when the scanner does (at least in my experience).

    8. Re:You don't have to BUY a machine by eliphalet · · Score: 2

      Pardon my paranoia, but what if one's employer's scanning device keeps a copy of what you scan or fax?

    9. Re:You don't have to BUY a machine by ajlisows · · Score: 2

      Heck, take the pile of paper to a Kinko's or local copy center and get it done there. Worry about naming/sorting when you get home. This option should be cheaper (and easier) than renting an enterprise copier.

    10. Re:You don't have to BUY a machine by Fjandr · · Score: 2

      That's not paranoia. Almost any commercial machine will be equipped with a hard drive, which is used to store print jobs (since the unit's RAM usually isn't large enough to trust that it can hold the entire print queue when the machine is constantly busy). Many only remove old jobs only as-needed for space requirements, so those images could be there for a long time. There have been a number of reported incidents of companies not wiping off-lease or surplus drives from their printers, and having that data wind up in third-party hands.

    11. Re:You don't have to BUY a machine by AmiMoJo · · Score: 2

      In the UK you are required to keep original copies of documents for some purposes. For example copies of wage slips and bank statements are not usually enough to prove your income to some arms of the government. I keep everything I need to keep in boxes labelled by year. One box per year. After five years clear out the oldest box and recycle it. It does mean that when you need a document you have to search through the box for it, but that is so rare it isn't worth organising.

      If you want to go electronic you will just have to pony up for a good office grade document scanner. Unlike the cheap ones they separate the pages properly. Because they are business products the software they come with is not the usual consumer crap either. Japanese manufacturers like Oki seem to be the best. It is worth the investment because it should last you a decade or two.

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    12. Re:You don't have to BUY a machine by phoenix321 · · Score: 1

      And electricity, and light, and probably the company employee clock also.

      All which most employees more than make up for by working from home after work, working on weekends without bothering to ask for money or having a meeting with some coworkers off the clock, on the parking lot after leaving or in a bar later.

      One (1) bad business decision of any employee costs more than that.

    13. Re:You don't have to BUY a machine by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Here are just a few things to consider before using the machine at work. Take it from someone who knows.

      I work on enterprise grade scanners, the type that can scan thousands of documents per day. Depending on the environment, they are probably networked to the company's enterprise servers, and the network paths are locked down and invisible to the average user, which means anything you scan will end up tagged with your User ID on the company server. Pretty much anywhere these days with anything related to Financials, Healthcare, Government Records, or other secret or confidential data is locked down pretty tight, Even if you are a privileged user, or can hack into it, why take the chance of getting that dreaded visit from Company IT Security about your personal files on their network. BTW, those machines don't just scan thousands of documents a day for years on end, they do need periodic service, and if you screw it up, then you'll also have to explain to the boss why the tech found a copy of your prescription receipts or resume jammed inside the machine.

    14. Re:You don't have to BUY a machine by hobarrera · · Score: 1

      Can't you take it somewhere to get scanned?
      I have a Staples about 4 blocks from here. All I need to do is hand it over to the girl there, give her a usb drive, and wait (or come back later). It's not *that* cheap, but it beats buying a huge copier.

    15. Re:You don't have to BUY a machine by tehcyder · · Score: 1

      In the UK anything associated with tax should be kept for six years.

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  3. Out source by NEDHead · · Score: 5, Funny

    to China

    1. Re:Out source by Eponymous+Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Not sure why you've been marked as troll, but there are services that will do this for you. Send them a box of paperwork and a couple of weeks later you get access to everything as searchable pdf files.

    2. Re:Out source by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Not sure why you've been marked as troll, but there are services that will do this for you. Send them a box of paperwork and a couple of weeks later you get access to everything as searchable pdf files.

      Plus there's the added bonus of someone else having your complete history in digital form! Saves them a few steps if they ever want to make a lateral move into identity theft.

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    3. Re:Out source by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Outsource....

      To a child (or a neighborhood child).

      Couple of bucks ($20?) per year to have them go through and scan a years worth of papers.

      Kids love making money.

    4. Re:Out source by AlienIntelligence · · Score: 0, Troll

      Outsource....

      To a child (or a neighborhood child).

      Couple of bucks ($20?) per year to have them go through and scan a years worth of papers.

      Kids love making money.

      ROFL!

      You must be old.

      Kids are so fucking unmotivated and spoiled nowadays,
      you won't get shit from them. And if you do... the product
      will be shit.

      I can't even get those idiots to make a burger correctly,
      and you want them to make archival scans of documents
      that are 'important enough to have scans made of'.

      Haven't you seen that video on the tube yet? Dude splodes
      the laptop cause his worthless kid is mouthing off about
      how hard her fucking life is... and she HAS A FUCKING
      MAID!

      -AI

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    5. Re:Out source by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Can you give me a link to that?

    6. Re:Out source by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    7. Re:Out source by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Don't you love how the first solution proposed to a given problem always seems to be "outsource, hurr durr", with no consideration for the confidentiality or any other aspect of the problem?

      If you lazy-minded cloud ass-clowns don't have any worthwhile suggestions, why don't you just keep your hole shut?

    8. Re:Out source by booch · · Score: 1

      It sounds funny, but quite possibly the most cost-effective solution. I once needed to convert some documents from an old StarOffice format to an XML-based DocBook format. I looked into pulling them into OpenOffice and saving them as ODF, then writing a conversion program. Then I looked into having it outsourced. It would have actually been cheaper to have somebody in India re-type the entire 700 page document in the new format than spend my own labor writing a conversion program.

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    9. Re:Out source by treeves · · Score: 1

      I suppose humor recognition could be outsourced, but the language barrier might be an issue.

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  4. Fujitsu ScanSnap or similar by introp · · Score: 5, Interesting

    A sheet-feeder duplex scanner that'll scan and OCR to a PDF. Drop in your year of bank statements, press the button, come back in five minutes. Scan your receipts, product manuals, whatever you actually use. Throw out everything else.

    1. Re:Fujitsu ScanSnap or similar by Alan+Shutko · · Score: 5, Informative

      This is the simple answer. This scanner actually works, unlike other ones I've tried. Multifunction printers with scanners, or flatbeds with a document feeder are all much slower and much more prone to jamming. The Scansnap rarely jams but when it does, it tells you and lets you fix it. It hardly ever grabs multiple pages at once, but when it does, it can notice it (mine has an ultrasonic sensor) and will let you fix it immediately.

      I've scanned some 10k sheets with mine (not pages, as a double-sided document counts as 1 sheet but two pages). It works extremely well.

    2. Re:Fujitsu ScanSnap or similar by lhaeh · · Score: 4, Informative

      Yup, the Fujitsu ScanSnap 1500M is amazing. Never jams, great OCR software, VERY fast.

      Check out the great reviews on Amazon

      You can just toss in receipts and odd sized documents, handles them all fine.

    3. Re:Fujitsu ScanSnap or similar by kanweg · · Score: 1

      I have one of those and the programmer should be shot. Make that at least a dozen of times. After each scan I have to make half a dozen of mouse clicks to get ready for the next scan. Close the floating window. Then it asks me whether I want to throw away the last scan. Why would I want that? And why is it the default? Then you have to go to the dock, right-click (not an ordinary click), select the proper menu item to get the floating window again. AAARrrrrrggghhh.

      What it does a nice job at is recognizing single sided and double sided, as well as orientation. OK, deduct two bullets.

      Bert

    4. Re:Fujitsu ScanSnap or similar by puck01 · · Score: 3, Informative

      I'll agree with this. It just works and does so quickly.

      Add a good shredder and a secure redundant storage system and you're good to go.

    5. Re:Fujitsu ScanSnap or similar by jrkotrla · · Score: 5, Informative

      As an owner and avid fan of the ScanSnap S1500, I tell you: "Read the manual" (or at least the help files)

      You can configure as you like, but on mine I press the blue magic button and I have a PDF file stored on my HDD in a folder I have preselected. This PDF is named according to the naming convention I have selected, and is later OCR'd when my computer is idle, as I have selected. No other selection boxes pop up and I don't have to click on anything at all on my computer. Just the one blue button.

      That's why the Scansnap is magic

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    6. Re:Fujitsu ScanSnap or similar by swalve · · Score: 1

      I have an Officejet 6500. Its scanner works fine. You just have to clean the separation pad and rollers pretty often. I scanned a bunch of my old stuff just with the built in Windows scanning software, and converted to PDF later. Seemed easier. More importantly, I have NEVER had to use a single file that I created. So I don't worry too much about it. I'll just delete the folders in a few years.

      For ongoing stuff, almost all my bills have websites where I can download PDFs of my bills, and I just save those. For other stuff, I just print to PDF. I keep each year's stuff in a separate folder, and name the files like 2012 01 January Mortgage.pdf By printing to PDF and saving PDFs, there is almost nothing I actually have to manually scan anymore.

      For my taxes, the IRS forms are almost all available from their website as fill-in forms, and I just fill them in and save them with the info. (Being paranoid, I also print them out and keep them in a file.)

    7. Re:Fujitsu ScanSnap or similar by LordLimecat · · Score: 1

      Seconding ScanSnaps. Theyre expensive ($400-500), but they work beautifully. I dont think Ive ever heard of or seen a single gripe for these. Theyre fast, duplex, and trouble free.

    8. Re:Fujitsu ScanSnap or similar by musth · · Score: 2, Interesting

      A ScanSnap costs $400, obviously quite an intricate product (iphones are less than this). How much does manufacturing, assembling, shipping, and mining the rare earth metals and other materials needed to create one of these things counteract the environmental and monetary savings of keeping less paper? How many people can even AFFORD a luxury like this?

      I think this might be another example of techno-delusional thinking.

    9. Re:Fujitsu ScanSnap or similar by BasilBrush · · Score: 3, Informative

      I've got a Scansnap S1300. Same software. If you have to do more than press the button on the scanner to scan a document, you've configured it wrong.

      It does come with a manual.

    10. Re:Fujitsu ScanSnap or similar by itsme1234 · · Score: 1

      +1 for ScanSnap 1500 or similar.
      OCR on "normal", modern printouts/paper (like bills and such) is spooky, as opposed for old magazines where it's so-so.
      Software is a bunch of closed spaghetti-commercial software you can't use for much more than getting searchable PDFs from your boxes of paper but oh, it does work for this purpose. Also it's about the only software where I'm satisfied with default settings. Tried to play with resolution, color, compression (space is cheap, I know how to handle a couple odd hundred megs, etc). No real improvement and everything gets slower.
      In short: yes, it does work.

    11. Re:Fujitsu ScanSnap or similar by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I had done a lot of research before buying my Fujitsu ScanSnap, and expected similar results. Unfortunately, it started grabbing multiple pages after less than 500 pages worth of scans, and I've have to hand feed it a page at a time since then. I followed all the instructions for cleaning, etc., but nothing has helped. Unfortunately, there doesn't seem to be any place to send it for repairs (its now around 4 years old).

    12. Re:Fujitsu ScanSnap or similar by Keith+Mickunas · · Score: 2

      I've been considering getting a scanner for a while now to take care of all my old documents. I've seen an ad on TV for a scanner and software that looks nifty, but I can't bring myself to buy that "as seen on TV" crap.

      This S1300 looks like something that will fill my needs nicely. The S1500 would be great, but after my initial archiving I know my usage will drop dramatically and I don't want to spend that much. The money saved on an S1300 will more than make up for the minor loss in functionality.

    13. Re:Fujitsu ScanSnap or similar by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 1

      but when it does, it can notice it (mine has an ultrasonic sensor) and will let you fix it immediately.

      Mine always grabs multiple sheets unless they've been previously folded. Not sure if mine has an ultrasonic sensor - what does the sensor do?

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    14. Re:Fujitsu ScanSnap or similar by plover · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The number of people being able to afford one is irrelevant. There are always wealthy people who can afford something that the poor cannot.

      The question about the savings of keeping less paper are perfectly on target. Assuming the paper is recycled (either after scanning or after you've kept it for the required seven years) that part's a wash. They still printed and mailed you the paper, and you still handled it and disposed of it. There is no savings one way or the other based on how long you keep it.

      The only actual savings is incurred if you change residences. Not having to move seven boxes of old papers is perhaps worth a few cents of your time and some truck fuel.

      The other "savings" claimed is convenience. Having a searchable back index of these pieces of paper might have some value, but only if you actually need to refer back to them. And that's the deal. I have a box of paper marked "2006" in the closet, filled with receipts, bills, tax forms, etc. How often do I go back to that? Never. So how often would I need to refer back to the electronic version of the same data? Never. It's a box of pre-recycling scrap paper that I store only because I may need it in case of a future tax audit. Otherwise, doing anything with it is a waste of my time and effort.

      Next January, I'll spend an hour in front of the shredder getting rid of the contents of that box. Even that's no different than spending a minute a week shredding them after scanning them, really. Now, a scanner/shredder combination might be a lower-effort way of handling them, but that's not the product we're looking at. Plus, I shred in bulk, which is a lot faster than shredding a sheet at a time while scanning it.

      So I completely agree with you. Overall, scanning these papers would be a step that delivers no benefit to me, yet costs me in terms of time and money.

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    15. Re:Fujitsu ScanSnap or similar by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      The ultrasonic sensor detects multiple pages feeding at once. Fujitsu scanners are awesome, no doubt about it. I started with a fi-5120C (15 ipm auto duplex), then got a ScanSnap S300 (20 ipm auto duplex), then a S1500 (40 ipm auto duplex), and latest a fi-5130 (70 ipm auto duplex). Superb equipment. Not cheap, but worth every penny.

    16. Re:Fujitsu ScanSnap or similar by cknudsen · · Score: 1

      That cost is a bit much for the average home user. I've been scanning my papers as jpeg images and shredding everything for a few years. Of course, that's not searchable... So, I recently installed Tesseract-OCR.... very cool if you're okay putting in some elbow grease. All I need to do is scan to jpeg and the OCR happens overnight when I'm not using my mac mini. I also put together a small PHP app to do search the OCR'd text: https://sourceforge.net/projects/edocias/

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    17. Re:Fujitsu ScanSnap or similar by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      right. give me one OCR software that actually works.

    18. Re:Fujitsu ScanSnap or similar by Zerth · · Score: 1

      If the rubber drum looks worn, you can get a replacement kit for like 15 bucks on amazon.

      We've got 4 of them at work that see lots of use, it's really easy to replace. 500 pages seems a bit soon for it to have worn, though.

    19. Re:Fujitsu ScanSnap or similar by MikeBabcock · · Score: 1

      A modern digital camera has plenty of resolution to act as a page scanner. Your average smart phone can take a photo of a printed page to OCR later without any problem at all; stop using scanners, they're overkill.

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    20. Re:Fujitsu ScanSnap or similar by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      The sensor listens for the sound of crumpling and ripping paper or for the sound of the "feeding" paper to become irregular. When it senses something it signals that an error has occurred.

      If yours is grabbing multiple sheets of undamaged (no crumples, folds, sticky spots, or staple holes) then it might need to be cleaned or refurbished. The feed rollers aren't tacky enough, perhaps.

      FTW: The verification word was "duplex."

    21. Re:Fujitsu ScanSnap or similar by uglyduckling · · Score: 1

      At risk of being another "me too" - the ScanSnap is fantastic. I've been using it for nearly 3 years, together with DevonThink on the Mac. I showed it to my father-in-law, he went and bought one the next day, he's using it with Windows 7 and the supplied freebie software.

      The killer feature is OCR'd PDFs, which you can search with text strings, but bring up the hi-res jpeg when you want to email or print a copy.

      I /have/ made the ScanSnap jam, but only when I've been stupid enough to feed in far too many sheets. The software even helps you sort out the mess and carry on where you left off. The fold detection system is pretty good too, so if the paper snarls and doesn't scan properly it's let you know.

    22. Re:Fujitsu ScanSnap or similar by uglyduckling · · Score: 1

      I think you've got a duff one. I've scanned literally thousands of pages with mine, and digitised years worth of wage slips, tax returns, bank statements etc.. It's probably worth trying spare parts. I don't think your device is representative of the usual quality of this product- bad luck :(.

    23. Re:Fujitsu ScanSnap or similar by uglyduckling · · Score: 2

      Yeah, I'm sure I'll enjoy using a digital camera when I'm up to my 60th photo on my monthly paperwork clear-out. It's a million times easier to pull the staple out of a stack of papers and feed them into the scanner than to manually go through every page. Also, unless you set up a jig with a tripod and light source, you'll end up with half the photos at a funny angle and/or flash fringes on the scanned images.

    24. Re:Fujitsu ScanSnap or similar by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Another vote here for the Scansnap. I have the older S510M and it works great. The hardware is solid, sheet feed works great and can handle large stacks, rarely jams, software Just Works. I used it to go mostly paperless a couple years ago.

      Andrew Janke

    25. Re:Fujitsu ScanSnap or similar by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I have the Fujitsu ScanSnap S1500. Amazing. Only time it jams is if I put really crumbled, messed up, or torn paper into the scanner. Never had a problem with double feeding. Have scanned thousands of documents.

    26. Re:Fujitsu ScanSnap or similar by markcic · · Score: 1

      iPhones and cell phones in general do not cost less than this.

      Cell phone are subsidized by the carriers in order for you to buy service. In the razor and blade analogy cell phones are the razor and the service is the blade. The cell carriers lose money on the phones to make money on the the service.

         

    27. Re:Fujitsu ScanSnap or similar by PsychoSlashDot · · Score: 3, Informative

      I have one of those and the programmer should be shot. Make that at least a dozen of times. After each scan I have to make half a dozen of mouse clicks to get ready for the next scan. Close the floating window. Then it asks me whether I want to throw away the last scan. Why would I want that? And why is it the default? Then you have to go to the dock, right-click (not an ordinary click), select the proper menu item to get the floating window again. AAARrrrrrggghhh.

      What it does a nice job at is recognizing single sided and double sided, as well as orientation. OK, deduct two bullets.

      Bert

      You're doing it wrong. Seriously. The ScanSnap has two very distinct "modes". In the default "mode" it works with sort of a wizard interface. You press the button and a box comes up asking you "what do you want to do with this?" It walks you through the process. If you disable that mode (I think it's called Quick Menu) by right-clicking on the blue S systray icon and then clicking on "Enable Quick Menu", you open up a world of awesome.

      In awesome mode, you define "profiles". As many as you like. You can define a single-sided, black & white, 300dpi, save as ARBITRARY-NAME###-DATE.PDF in X:\FOLDER. You can define other profiles with other settings, including the scan-to-email and scan-to-print options that mimic the options in the Quick Menu. When you're in a profile, you press the Scan button on the scanner and... it just DOES whatever that profile defines. At most you have a single OK button to confirm what it's going to do. Changing profiles is done by left-clicking on the blue S systray icon and clicking on the desired profile.

      You're using the mode for people who don't understand computers. There's a whole customizable mode for people who do.

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    28. Re:Fujitsu ScanSnap or similar by Alan+Shutko · · Score: 1

      My Scansnap can do 20 double-sided pieces of paper a minute. My camera can't.

      I to capture documents like books that I can't send through the Scansnap, but it's much more effort.

    29. Re:Fujitsu ScanSnap or similar by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      AC here, giving my endorsement for the ScanSnap S1500. Bought two of them for two of my offices!

    30. Re:Fujitsu ScanSnap or similar by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "The sensor listens for the sound of crumpling and ripping paper or for the sound of the "feeding" paper to become irregular."

      Nope, sorry - not how it works. The ultrasonic detector (in Fujitsu scanners, anyway, most others as well probably) actually detects that there are multiple sheets. It can detect a post-it note, or just two sheets (or more) that have decided to take the trip together. The reason they allow you to turn that feature off is in case you have something like post-it notes, or a two-part form you do not want to separate, that needs to be scanned without creating an error.

    31. Re:Fujitsu ScanSnap or similar by BasilBrush · · Score: 1

      Which is fine if you have a large house where you can afford to keep boxes of paper hanging around. A lot of people live in small homes or apartments, and don't want to spare the space for boxes of paper.

      There's also paper that isn't tax stuff. Stuff with sentimental value, stuff from school, old love letters, cards, old magazines, photographs. Those with even a mild hoarding instinct can get weighed down with boxes of paper. And when you do want something, finding it might take hours.

      Douglas Adams said that a VCR was a machine that watched TV for you, so you didn't have to. If there was something on TV that you didn't want to miss, and you also had to go out, you could get the VCR to watch the TV for you. You might never watch what's on the tape, but at least you didn't miss the possibility.

      And that's what a scanner gives you. The opportunity to throw paper away now, without the worry that you'll want it again.

    32. Re:Fujitsu ScanSnap or similar by baegucb · · Score: 1

      http://www.amazon.com/Fujitsu-ScanSnap-Instant-Sheet-Fed-PA03603-B005/dp/B003990GMQ seems like a good model according to reviews and is $256.

    33. Re:Fujitsu ScanSnap or similar by epine · · Score: 2

      I've had a ScanSnap for several years, and I second that it has never jammed once. On average, the OCR also works pretty good, but I had many small complaints and with a little polish it could be great. Not holding my breath, however.

      I'm not presently up to date with the OCR software bundle right now. After an initial push, I've let the paper stack up again. Another push coming soon.

      One thing that really bugged me as a hardcore nerd is that in duplex scan mode it doesn't auto-cancel bleed-through. If the paper is too thin or transparent, your OCR on both sides is crap.

      Seriously, if you've scanned both sides of the page, cancelling out bleed-through has to be a heck of a lot easier than echo cancellation in telephony systems.

    34. Re:Fujitsu ScanSnap or similar by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There are certain things you would want to scan in and keep somewhere... For example:
      * Insurance policies. I hope my house never burns down, but if it does that paper copy kept in a box in a closet doesn't do me any good. Put the paper copy in a bank safety deposit box and keep a scanned in version at home (I also send a digital copy to my parents house so if my house were to burn down I have all my insurance info there so I can call the company and have my policy info on hand). Do I refer to it often? Actually every year when I want to look at how my prices have changed or if I need to print out a new copy of my auto insurance card.
      * mortgage/titles/deeds/passports/birth certificates/social security cards etc. You can't scan and shred these, but again if the house burns down they're gone too. Safety deposit box they go. If I need the actual paper I can get it quickly. If I need to "fax" it to someone, i just email the copy to them or print it and send it.
      * Paystubs. I hate keeping these around but if you ever want a mortgage or for tax information they're good to keep handy. Plus some companies will let you download them directly from the payroll company. No paper is a good thing sometimes.

      Scanning paper you get is a good thing, but what's better is to look at paperless options from vendors altogether. Most of my bills come in the form of an email which I pay online and then download a statement. No paper at all. The only things I get on paper are from small vendors (like my electrician) who don't have websites set up.

       

    35. Re:Fujitsu ScanSnap or similar by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Scansnap doesn't do TWAIN or ISIS. Not critical probably for the soho market, but I hedged my bets with a Epson Workforce Pro GT-S55. Faster, more rugged. I akready had Acrobat 9 Pro, so the Epson's dated looking software bundle didn't concern me.

    36. Re:Fujitsu ScanSnap or similar by Call+Me+Black+Cloud · · Score: 1

      I second the above post. I also have an S1500 and like jrkotrla says, it's magic. I open the unit, load the docs, press the blue button and the PDF is stored in the correct folder. Load more docs, press the blue button, etc. I rename the files and remove unneeded pages before moving the PDF to its final location but that's all the effort I expend.

    37. Re:Fujitsu ScanSnap or similar by MikeBabcock · · Score: 1

      Your complaint appears to be the lack of a sheet feeder for your camera, not that your camera can't take enough photos per minute. Aside from book scanning (for which traditional scanners are all but useless anyway), I can leaf through and photograph about one page per two seconds. Faster if I didn't care about carpel tunnel. Yes, it requires a tripod, but I think the point is still valid.

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    38. Re:Fujitsu ScanSnap or similar by MikeBabcock · · Score: 1

      I acknowledge your first point, but fringes and angles are easily fixed with auto-rotate and auto-crop; both already done by scanners as well.

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  5. Outsource it. by Fished · · Score: 3, Informative

    Lots of places will scan documents for you on professional-grade scanners, including your local Kinko's. Sometimes, you don't save money by trying to do it yourself -- like when you keep buying another cheap scanner at a couple hundred a pop to avoid getting it done professionally.

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    1. Re:Outsource it. by mj1856 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Why the hell would you give the guy at Kikos a box of your tax returns and legal documents? Especially since you are asking him to scan them! It only takes a minute for him to make his own digital copy and poof! There goes your identity.

    2. Re:Outsource it. by Mannfred · · Score: 1

      Outsourcing is definitively the way to go if your archive is big. I am facing the same problem - basically looking to digitize an old archive of miscellaneous "important" documents - and a local business offered to scan my estimated 50,000 pieces of paper for GBP 1350 (approx USD 2150). That's 4 cents per document - a no brainer in labour-saving and time-saving terms.

    3. Re:Outsource it. by ColdWetDog · · Score: 1

      And storing them on their Facebook page - priceless!

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    4. Re:Outsource it. by peragrin · · Score: 2

      Why scan them all? I bet you only need about a 10% of them actually scanned the rest you simply have to store in case they might be needed.

      So start out doing everything digital for this year, and only scan in items that actually apply to this years records.

      In 10 years you will have a fraction of the paper stored, and full archives.

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    5. Re:Outsource it. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Yeah, and no one would ever guess who the identity thief is! It's the perfect crime!!

    6. Re:Outsource it. by Mannfred · · Score: 1

      For me it's partly about saving space (yes, 50K documents take a fair bit of it), partly about 'fireproofing' them, partly about portability (I travel) and partly about searchability (OCR + indexing) - the ability to find most documents which mention a particular topic over the past few decades in a matter of seconds is exceptionally valuable for me personally.

    7. Re:Outsource it. by TheRaven64 · · Score: 1

      Why scan them all? I bet you only need about a 10% of them actually scanned the rest you simply have to store in case they might be needed.

      Working out which ones are in that 10% is a lot easier once they are scanned and searchable. And, by the time they're scanned, there isn't much of an advantage in deleting them...

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    8. Re:Outsource it. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

      "Why scan them all?"

      More than once I've needed a receipt a year or two later because something needed to be fixed under warranty. Oh, I found the original receipt! I think. Two years later, it's blank, the thermal print faded to nothing.

      THAT is why I scan.

    9. Re:Outsource it. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Every page that is copied at Kinko's (FedEx Office), including by self-service machines, is archived forever. Each machine has a 500GB harddrive that saves the pages, which are collected monthly to the corporate headquarters.

    10. Re:Outsource it. by markdavis · · Score: 3, Insightful

      If you think THAT is crazy, look at the first, top-rated comment! Evernote? Yeah, like I want to give some third-party, "cloud" service access to all my stuff all the time? Geesh, even Google is bad enough now. And if you think I am going to use my phone to pay for stuff with Google Wallet.... think again!

    11. Re:Outsource it. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Evernote has a local machine version and an online service. You don't have to store your stuff in the "cloud" if you don't want to. Just keep it on your local machine.

    12. Re:Outsource it. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "fixed under warranty"

      IMHO: If it can't outlast the warranty period, I don't want another one. I'll just go somewhere else and get something different.

    13. Re:Outsource it. by Nemyst · · Score: 1

      What, because MasterCard and VISA are really that much better? Paragons of security and privacy, surely?

      If you want to be paranoid, live in a shack and pay only in cash.

    14. Re:Outsource it. by markdavis · · Score: 1

      MarsterCard and VISA don't ALSO have possible access to your phone records, your Email, your detailed location history, your search history, and any number of other metrics.

      One who is not somewhat paranoid, is just irresponsible. Just because a company has some information, doesn't mean one should shovel tons more to them.

  6. Buy a used enterprise-class scanner by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Consumer grade ADF scanners are toys.
    You should be able to find a used one, like the Panasonic KV-S3065 for under $1000.

    1. Re:Buy a used enterprise-class scanner by ducman · · Score: 1

      You probably can't find one, any more, but I bought a used HP ScanJet 5, and installed BSD on it. This page has a lot of info on the process: http://www.berklix.com/scanjet/

      It's still working far better than any other scanner I've used.

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  7. Do you think it's worth it? by jcreus · · Score: 5, Insightful

    All those tax returns, legal paperwork... Can't they just stay on a box or at the basement? It'll require lots of work, and get few benefits. I would understand for new documents; i.e. introducing to a spreadsheet some taxes/things to pay. But why care about the past? Or, at least, why scan? Just type the figures, it'll be more semantic and wouldn't involve machines (except for you and the computer).

    1. Re:Do you think it's worth it? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      Also, if you need past tax returns, you can call IRS and they will be happy to fax them to you.

    2. Re:Do you think it's worth it? by rubycodez · · Score: 1

      and make a cutt-off date for paperwork you will keep, say 8 years. In 4 years over half your pile will be gone, 8 years your pile will be shreds, problem solved.

    3. Re:Do you think it's worth it? by swalve · · Score: 4, Insightful

      This is where Banker's Boxes are great. Just move last year's files into a box and put a destruction date on it. Done.

    4. Re:Do you think it's worth it? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      fax. FAX? uuuh, wut?

    5. Re:Do you think it's worth it? by Beryllium+Sphere(tm) · · Score: 1

      If you can get that box out of the basement (assuming you have a basement), then you can pick up things from the rest of the house, and put them in its place. Result: cleaner house. Also dramatically easier to find something if it's in electronic form.

  8. Epson GT-2500 by pitkataistelu · · Score: 1

    I don't know what ADF scanners you have tried, but I have been enormously pleased with Epson's GT-2500. With straightforward letter-sized/a4-sized paper it is very reliable, at least with the Windows software. Unfortunately, the Linux software calls jams all the time when they're not even physically happening.

    I haven't used it much lately just because the photocopier at my office is even faster and allows me to dump scans onto an ftp account.

  9. ScanSnap by MikeMo · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Fujitsu ScanSnap S1500 totally rocks. I bought that refurbished for $250. Add in Yojimbo or Evernote and you'll be set. We've gone paperless in our office and at home, and this machine is the heart of that. We scan everything and shred it.

    It's nice not having the paper around, but the BIG thing is not having to find it - it's always at your fingertips, searchable by document content or via the keywords in Evernote or Yojimbo.

    1. Re:ScanSnap by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is one of the best purchases I ever did, such amazing thing.

      I don't own books anymore. I scanned them, the original pages(I cut the books) are in my parents's boxroom, hundreds of kilometers away.

    2. Re:ScanSnap by Shoe+Puppet · · Score: 3, Funny

      (I cut the books)

      You, sir, are worse than Hitler.

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    3. Re:ScanSnap by marcosdumay · · Score: 1

      And the best part is that you are currently rated +3 (nothing - just underrated), while the GP with practical advice is stuck at 0.

      I can't blame you or the mods, since I share this feeling. But well, it makes no sense.

    4. Re:ScanSnap by TooMuchToDo · · Score: 1

      I sent my entire book collection into 1dollarscan.com. They charge me $6/book, slice the binding, scan the entire book, have a human verify, and then send me the PDFs. The physical books are meaningless; its the data within (all stored in Google Docs).

  10. Toilet paper by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    How do you expect to be "paperfree" when almost the entire use of your paper has nothing to do with priting anything?

    Most of paper is used for toiletpaper or paper towels or paper tissue.

    So, how do you use those 3-shells??

    1. Re:Toilet paper by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Bidet and hand towels?

    2. Re:Toilet paper by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Funny, I trained my sub to do the same. She's more versatile than a dog too.

  11. One word : Napalm... or a camera scanner by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Having worked in archives, I recommend you this kind of scanner.
    hovercam.
    ok, it's manual but nothing is as fast as this under 2k$.

  12. Use Neat! by Purist · · Score: 1

    This product is fantastic:

    http://www.neat.com/

    I use mine all of the time.

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  13. Paperless at home? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I don't now seems I would still need TP at least.

  14. another vote for Fujitsu Scansnap by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I own a Fujitsu Scansnap S1500. It's worth the 400 bucks.

  15. Fuji Scansnap by tofu2go · · Score: 1

    Hands down the best personal document scanner out there. It is fast, scans duplex, and outputs PDF files. My sister and I both own one. A client of mine also bought one on my recommendation, and the clinic I work at has one as well.

  16. Plenty of 4 figure price tag ADF scanners by Zakabog · · Score: 1

    I work in a computer shop and I've set up numerous ADF scanners, none of which cost more than $3,000 and most of which were $1,500. They all seem to work great and I've heard no complaints of jams or picking up extra paper. They're almost all small (like a small inkjet) scanners without a flatbed, and they all operate in the 30+ ppm range and support scanning over a network. A few Fujitsu's, a few Canon's and one monstrous and very old HP SCSI scanner (comes with a flatbed as well) and none of them so far as I can tell have had any issues jamming or missing pages

  17. Photos? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Is the Fujitsu SnapScan any good at scanning a stack of glossy photographs? I've got thousands of old glossy prints I want to digitise, but the last sheet-feed scanner I tried couldn't cope with these, and flatbed is too slow.

    1. Re:Photos? by durdur · · Score: 1

      My guess is not. Dust hard to eliminate if using a sheetfed or flat scanner and will be more objectionable for photos than for documents. Also most scanners do not have a resolution close to that of photo film, so you are losing detail. You can ship your photos to a place that will use a professional scanner on them. DigMyPics is one. FotoBridge is another.

    2. Re:Photos? by microcars · · Score: 1

      It *can*, I've done hundreds and it does them very very fast. Doing both sides at the same time is nice because many people have written notes on the back of their photos. Now you don't have to copy down the notes.

      Downside is that the scanner was apparently not intended for glossy photos.
      I get the occasional odd fine green line through one section of the image or a 1/4" of color "noise" at the leading edge of the image.

      Support says it is an artifact that appears with scanned glossy images and there is no real good way to get around (at least not with this scanner.)

      If you happen to already HAVE the scanner and you can put up with some minor imperfections on the scans of those shoeboxes full of pics you never ever go through but are always meaning to before you die, it will probably be fine.

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  18. Why go "Paperless"? by schroom5 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I really don't understand the whole idea of going paperless. The vast majority of paper we get, we don't really need to keep more than a month or so. Bills, etc, when you get them, you review them for errors, if everything looks good you pay it, at most I keep 2 months worth of back bills around. If you close an account, keep the last statement for a year or two. Taxes, insurance papers, titles & deed, those you need to keep long term, but 7 years worth of returns, insurance contracts, deeds & titles will fit easily in one, maybe two, plastic file boxes that you can get from Staples for $20. A 2 draw filing cabinet and a couple plastic file boxes should handle the filing needs of the average family. Most people just keep too much paper. The reason you want to keep paper around is if there is ever a disagreement it is usable in court. I'm not sure scanned documents can be submitted to court, so I would never just scan then shred my tax returns.

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    1. Re:Why go "Paperless"? by CityZen · · Score: 1

      Yes. The key isn't that you have to scan everything you've got, but rather you just need to stop producing more paper, where possible. Eventually, you'll have less and less, and you'll be able to toss out stuff as it becomes pointless to keep. So sign up for paperless billing, avoid printing things when you can just send yourself an email to your phone, or jotting things down on paper when you can type into your phone, etc.

    2. Re:Why go "Paperless"? by uglyduckling · · Score: 1

      The thing that bothers me about paperless (online) billing, is that if I ever have a major dispute with my

    3. Re:Why go "Paperless"? by WalterPPK · · Score: 1

      It is a useful question and I've been wondering this myself over the last couple of weeks. My mother is a 'hoarder' and has rooms full of paperwork, books, magazines, and other mostly worthless rubbish that nobody can help her throw out. In the past couple of years I've switched her to Internet banking and billing, email and digital photography. I was just thinking last weekend that I could probably help her get rid of more rubbish if I could show her *convincingly* that there was a way to store documents into her computer quickly, index and search them and not lose anything. The only question now, though, is the ideal software for OCR'ing, tagging, browsing and searching through an immense pile of mixed documents that might include anything from a magazine clipping to a treasured family photo jumbled in together with a dozen spoons and a leaky pen. If I can find a good method then in a weekend I could clear a whole room full of stuff from her home. But if I can't convince her that nothing will be lost or misplaced then she won't even let me try.

  19. Use a mounted camera by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I had this exact problem. With a scanner I was getting up to 3 scans per minute, and even at that rate it would have taken me months to scan all I wanted. I realized the problem was the physical moving of the element, and that if it were to take the whole snapshot at once then it would be a lot faster. A camera mounted overhead, with a trigger to snap photos dropped my scan time down so much I was doing 12-15 pages per minute. Assuming you get it well lit, with a decent camera that has little distortion, you can get images that are as good as a scanner MUCH faster. I posted about my setup here:

    http://bobbaddeley.com/2011/05/fast-scanner/

    1. Re:Use a mounted camera by xaxa · · Score: 1

      You could mount a tri-square underneath your camera to speed up lining up the document.

      (But personally I think it's a waste of time for home records. I dump mine in a box, they're in reverse-chronological order the two times a year I need anything. New year = new box, the old one goes in a cupboard.)

    2. Re:Use a mounted camera by Call+Me+Black+Cloud · · Score: 1

      It would take an amazing camera to photograph both sides of a document at once. That's why I use the ScanSnap s1500 - it will beat your 12-15 pages per minute while scanning both sides in color and creating PDFs on the fly. Its footprint is small enough that it sits on my desk.

  20. Simple Scan with Brother MFC-7840W by El_Oscuro · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I have Simple Scan on Ubuntu and a networked Brother MFC-7840W. The Brother has a multiple page feeder which doesn't jam much and Simple Scan which supports multiple pages. Couldn't be easier. Just put your document in the feeder, push scan and a few minutes later you have a 10 page PDF of it.

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  21. Cheap scanners by DogDude · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I'm not sure what kind of document feeders the poster has been buying, but I regularly scan and fax hundreds of pages a week on a very affordable Brother multi-function machine. They cost about $300 and work just fine.

    Of course, you could also take those old tax returns and stick them in a box in a closet somewhere on the 1/1,000,000 chance that you may ever need to look at them again.

    I don't understand Slashdot's obsession with articles and questions about turning simple, mundane tasks into grossly overcomplicated, expensive technical "problems" in need of grossly overcomplicated, expensive technical "solutions".

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    1. Re:Cheap scanners by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 1

      Of course, you could also take those old tax returns and stick them in a box in a closet somewhere on the 1/1,000,000 chance that you may ever need to look at them again.

      In the US, I'm pretty sure you don't have a legal need to retain your tax returns more than three years after filing. Of course I'm a packrat, so I've still got tax returns from the 1980s - but I have no good reason to do so.

      For the past 5 years or so I've been using an online income tax filing tool (taxact.com), so at least I can say I'm not adding to that particular pile of paper anymore.

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  22. good scanners are not THAT much $$$ by sribe · · Score: 1

    You don't need a scanner that costs "5 figures". You need something between a ScanSnap ($500) and an fi-6140 ($1,500). You can also look for used/refurb...

  23. Buying the wrong brand? by whoever57 · · Score: 1

    The cheap HP Multifunction I bought 18 months ago has worked for me. Yes, there are the occasional jams, but I have been able to scan all my old tax returns and continue to scan new documents. HP has made a loss on this machine, since I have not installed (let alone bought new) the ink cartridges.

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  24. "How to go Paperless at Home?" by John+Hasler · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Install a bidet.

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    1. Re:"How to go Paperless at Home?" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I suppose that you're just going to sit there and drip dry...

      No, i'm not going to ask!

    2. Re:"How to go Paperless at Home?" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Install a bidet.

      Dang, I thought that was a drinking fountain!

    3. Re:"How to go Paperless at Home?" by GiMP · · Score: 2

      Modern ones have a blow-dry option.

    4. Re:"How to go Paperless at Home?" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Find out how to use the three seashells.

  25. Huh? by PCM2 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    My reaction is, why would you want to go "paper-free"?

    Seriously. Are you allergic to paper or something?

    It would be one thing if everybody sent you bills and documents electronically and you never had to deal with paper again, but you're talking about scanning things in with a document feeder. WTF?

    Seriously. It is much, much harder to keep records electronically than to throw the pieces of paper into a file cabinet and forget about it. This is well documented.

    Maybe for a company that produces huge piles and mounds of documents every year it makes sense to want to convert them to electronic formats, but for an individual it makes no sense. And you're not talking about stuff like marriage licenses, now, you're talking about random individual tax records from years ago. WHY are you losing sleep over it?

    The mere fact that it's hard for you to figure out how to do it should be a big clue that IT'S AN INCREDIBLE AMOUNT OF WORK THAT YOU WOULDN'T OTHERWISE HAVE TO DO. Are you so bored?

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    1. Re:Huh? by devilspgd · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Seriously. It is much, much harder to keep records electronically than to throw the pieces of paper into a file cabinet and forget about it. This is well documented.

      True. Equally well documented is how much easier it is to index paper by multiple keys, as well as rapidly resort and search file cabinets. Oh wait, no, that's electronically stored documents.

      Seriously, storing paper is a ton easier and it works for many purposes. Until you move, or have a fire, or your basement floods, or you need a copy of that letter you received from your insurance company 18-24 months ago confirming a change to your home because they're now claiming they weren't informed you're using natural gas instead of electric heat and are declining a $250,000 insurance claim after the aforementioned fire.

      But sure, paper is easier to throw into a file cabinet and forget about.

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    2. Re:Huh? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The problem with throwing pieces of paper into a file cabinet is that the storage space required for this monotonically increases over time, unless you commit to going through the documents periodically and discarding what's no longer necessary.

      You're worried about doing an "incredible amount of work that you wouldn't otherwise have to do"? Try spending the day pawing through your filing cabinet and pulling files that you want to discard. Now that I've gone paperless with my Scansnap with an ADF, it takes me less than 60 seconds to ingest a batch of documents into the system, and because storage space is cheap, I never have to go through the effort of moving around stacks of old files.

    3. Re:Huh? by MikeMo · · Score: 1

      Once again, it's not so much about not having the paper in a drawer or box or file cabinet - it's about being able to find what you need without searching through said drawers or boxes or file cabinets. And, it's incredibly easy. Load into scanner, up to 15 pages at a time, push button, drag file to Yojimbo, done. Oh, one more step - shred.

    4. Re:Huh? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So, your digital records will be intact and accessible following the fire or flood? Because your computer is waterproof and fireproof?

      Oh, I see. You stored it safely in the "cloud".

      With a trusted provider that is completely immune to breaches.

    5. Re:Huh? by devilspgd · · Score: 2

      So, your digital records will be intact and accessible following the fire or flood?

      That's another good point I'd forgotten to make, thanks! Electronic records can be trivially copied, backed up, stored off site, etc whereas paper records really cannot.

      Oh, I see. You stored it safely in the "cloud".

      With a trusted provider that is completely immune to breaches.

      Assuming a targetted attack, your home computer isn't immune to breaches either, nor are the boxes in your basement. Assuming an attack wasn't targetted, cloud providers are bigger targets, but the odds of your particular data being stolen and somehow exploited are similar to someone randomly targetting you individually; negligible. This is quite different from situations where an account database is hacked and the information for thousands of people are cleanly filed in a consistent usable format.

      I also discovered this thing called "encryption" the allows me to safely store data too important to trust to Evernote type services.

      Not everyone trusts the cloud, but to me, I've balanced the risk vs the rewards and am comfortable with where my data is stored. You are certainly free to choose differently, if so, you might consider copying your data to a removeable drive and placing it somewhere safe (in a $25 fire safe at a friend's house, safe deposit box, in your desk at work, etc)

      I've had a couple of minor floods over the years, and had destroyed paper. I've yet to lose a single electronically filed document since I started having files worth worrying about (which would probably be from the days of my first tax return)

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    6. Re:Huh? by crazyvas · · Score: 1

      It is much, much harder to keep records electronically than to throw the pieces of paper into a file cabinet and forget about it. This is well documented.

      Is the documentation that you speak of electronic or has it been filed on paper somewhere? Wait a second, given your lack of citation, I think I know the answer....;)

    7. Re:Huh? by FaxeTheCat · · Score: 1

      So scanning it all in for a year and indexing it would take like half a day?
      I just put everything in a box per year. When I need something, I spend a maximum of 10 minutes searching through that pile. Last year I spent a total of 15 minutes looking for stuff in that pile the two times I needed receipts for warranty repairs.
      Scanning it all in is just bad ROI.

    8. Re:Huh? by crazyvas · · Score: 1

      Seriously. It is much, much harder to keep records electronically than to throw the pieces of paper into a file cabinet and forget about it. This is well documented.

      On a serious note, this is dead wrong. Parent only pretends to cite (an unnamed) authority. Perhaps it's true for a specific case, but I decided to scan a few dozen sheets of paper about three years ago, and only maintain electronic records going forward. This has been one of the best decisions are made, even better than I imagined it would be. In the past, there would constantly be paper around the house, and I would never know whether I would lose something by trashing a certain piece of paper. In addition, whenever I needed something, I would invariably end up turning the whole house inside out for hours, and still not find what I wanted. Now, I name my scanned files with keywords, and in the worst case scenario, I wait for about 20 seconds for a file system search to complete.

      Submitter: I had access to a high-end sheet feeder at work which I used, so I can't be of much help with your main question, but I can tell you that it is a highly worthwhile endeavor to go paperless, based on three years of personal experience. After you get done scanning your initial load, the key for the future is to set up your work space, equipment, and workflow, so that you spend a very minimal amount of time and effort scanning something, typing a few keywords, and recycling the paper.

    9. Re:Huh? by digitallife · · Score: 2

      How are you a anywhere even close to done after scanning? Even if you bypass directories and proper file names in favor of metadata and searching, inputting all that meta data is a *huge* job, no matter how quick and efficient you make it.

      I tried to go paperless for a while, but the scanning and meta data were just too much, and the benefits too little. For the rare occassion I actually need to look up something that requires 'searching', it's less effort overall to just use paper. I've actually gone so far as to change all my bills and whatnot back to paper, because the filing and processing is just so much easier.

      Compare paper bills to paperless:

      Paper:
      - open envelope
      - pay bill on bank website
      - stuff bill in obvious folder in filing cabinet
      The whole process takes maybe one minute being slow, and scales well with multiple bills at a time. The filing is easy and logical (year - category), and relatively simple for common lookups (for example getting all the electricity bills for last year is trivial, taking maybe 30 seconds). There is only one website to deal with, so it keeps problems to a minimum.

      Paperless:
      - open email informing of bill
      - figure out which websites I need to open
      - hope all websites are accessible, working, and havent changed so that my auto-fill stops working
      - figure out how to lookup how much I owe
      - pay bill on bank website
      - download copy of bill
      - edit meta data, file name, place in correct folder
      Inevitably when dealing with so many (quirky) websites, some are inaccessible, broken, or have changed enough that the auto-fill stops working. My electricity company changed the way they do logins drastically enough to require calling them (30 minutes - mostly on hold)... 3 times in one year! And it's not like I can use a different electricity company...
      Just changing the file name of the bill after downloading takes as much time as the entire filing process with a paper bill. Editing the meta data is prone to error and annoying (oops I must have forgotten one of the 20 necessary tags on that bill), and without proper meta data you lose basically 50% of the benefits of paperless (searching and space).
      The whole process is annoying if it goes smoothly, and time consuming and frustrating if it goes badly - and its a tossup and out of my control whether it will go smoothly or not.

      Anyways, my main point was that it's not as simple as scanning a piece of paper - which, if we're being honest and realistic, is harder than filing said paper. And really the benefits are minimal for the average person.

    10. Re:Huh? by cknudsen · · Score: 1

      If you switch most of your billing paperless, then it's not that much work. Download your bank statements, bills, etc. as PDF and save them. Download a digital copy of all the owners manuals you can find online. Then just scan the few hard copies you're left with.

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    11. Re:Huh? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually, I think the method you mention for paper would work fairly sanely on a machine in folders.

      Hierarchically:
      Year
      Category
      Specific Biller/Company
      Bill with a fairly sane name (First Quarter, January, Week 32, whatever)

      I may actually try it. I tend to insert - press single button - remove - manually shred - repeat whenever there's unexpected downtime in my life or I'm waiting for aptitude to get done installing a huge package/update.

      The redeeming thing here is that there is always the ability to add more information or resort this into a more practical pattern. That would be cumbersome - at best - with actual paper when you factor in a script or some tool to do part of the work for you.

    12. Re:Huh? by PCM2 · · Score: 1

      Seriously, storing paper is a ton easier and it works for many purposes. Until you move, or have a fire, or your basement floods

      Or your hard drive crashes. Or the DVD-R has bit rot. Or they changed the software and the new version can't load the format you stored it in. No wait -- that's electronic records.

      or you need a copy of that letter you received from your insurance company 18-24 months ago confirming a change to your home because they're now claiming they weren't informed you're using natural gas instead of electric heat and are declining a $250,000 insurance claim after the aforementioned fire

      Kind of a fringe case, isn't it? But if there's one thing that has remained constant throughout all of human history, it's the threat of weather and fire. What did people do before they had document scanners?

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    13. Re:Huh? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you're spending much time entering metadata, then you're doing it wrong. Get some document management software that was designed to do this, and file documents within a hierarchy of folders. Scansnap comes with a quirky document management program (Rack2Filer) -- the user interface looks daft, but once you know how to use it, it takes just 5-10 seconds per document of clicking to get it into the right place.

      With document management software, the filing step and the scanning step are integrated, so you never have to touch the "filename" of your document at all.

    14. Re:Huh? by marcosdumay · · Score: 1

      Order your folders by year. And separate on different folders what must live for 1, 5, or 10 years (it will be already separated if you order your documents by subject). Now all the trouble of discarding the unneded paper means only going into your cabinet, and discarding the contents of a few folders.

    15. Re:Huh? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You win, OK? Electronic filing is dumb and you're smart. Congrats for being the winner.

      Clearly, that is what you are hoping to hear from the internet.

    16. Re:Huh? by MikeMo · · Score: 1

      Ya know, I've done it both ways. You're making up a bunch of crap with your list of things to do for paperless. There is no metadata to do - the scan results in a searchable pdf, and the tools like Yojimbo and Evernote make it easy. Scan it, drop it into Yojimbo, done. Really, are you just a crotchety old man refusing to let go of his buggy whip?

    17. Re:Huh? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wow ... it's great to see someone who 'echo's my sentiments *exactly* .. I've had this discussion (with others and in my head) and you hit it on the head. The whole process takes too much 'life' out of a person to be worth it. Thanks ..

    18. Re:Huh? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      His comment was mostly ranting about paperless bills, as opposed to scanning real bills in, but I would like to point out that even if one manages to get the software to do all the filing and metadata (and that's a big if), it is still more work to physically scan an item than to file it - put in scanner, open scanner software, press scan button, wait for scan to finish, close scanner software, remove paper from scanner, put paper in trash - vs - open filing cabinet, put paper in folder.

  26. Can you go paperless? by OzPeter · · Score: 2, Insightful

    What happens in 4 years time when the IRS wants to do an audit on your 2011 return and makes the request "Show us the receipts"? Likewise for any legal document under the sun. Sure its great to have scanned copies, but I bet that there is still a requirement to back them up with the paper originals

    ("oh look, I just found he document giving me ownership of slashdot. Pity its worthless")

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    1. Re:Can you go paperless? by devilspgd · · Score: 1

      Scan everything, toss it in a box unsorted, with nothing but the start and end dates written on the boxes.

      99.whatever% of the time the electronic copy's searchability will win, usually having information matters more than having the original paper. For those few situations where you need the paper, the electronic copy's "created on" date tells you which box it's in.

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    2. Re:Can you go paperless? by cob666 · · Score: 3, Informative

      The IRS has accepted scanned receipts since the late 90's, provided they are identical to the original and legible.

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    3. Re:Can you go paperless? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, the difference is in my jurisdiction, as long as you have a regular practice of scanning in documents and then destroying the originals, this is all that is necessary to pass the legal bumps. Although, YMMV, depending on where you live.

      In any event, whether in paper form or scanned form, you'd still need to prove that the document is what you purport it to be. The IRS and similar places are well aware you can fake the paper form too.

    4. Re:Can you go paperless? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/p17.pdf

      Page 16.

      Basic gist: can go paperless as long as the digital images are indexed, legible and retrievable.

    5. Re:Can you go paperless? by oldspicepuresport · · Score: 1

      When I did this as my summer job last year (at an accounting firm) I can assure you that all the receipts, legal invoices, correspondence, notes, business cards, etc. associated with an account were all scanned into the file.

      You can use photocopied documents for an audit, so it's not like the originals are actually required. As long as everything that would have been in the paper file is in the electronic file there is literally no difference.

      When someone needed a file that had been scanned, they simply printed it out from file. These print-outs are essentially the exact same thing as photocopies, and would serve the same purpose to an auditor.

    6. Re:Can you go paperless? by jago25_98 · · Score: 1

      use your cameraphone? use spectacle lens to focus

      Or burn it all and run naked in the garden

    7. Re:Can you go paperless? by BuildMonkey · · Score: 1

      I've used the Fujitsu Snapscan S1500 for the past 18 months and I cannot think of enough good things to say about the hardware. Using the included ScanSnap Organizer, I throw a bill or statement on the machine and it's scanned in seconds. The software uses AbbeyFine OCR to create a "backing" of searchable text in the PDF; the scanned image is presented for viewing and printing. The OCR works very well for printed documents, rather poorly for handwriting. It also has the ability to put the scanned document into a folder based on keywords, e.g. 'Sprint', 'Chase', etc. When I want to find specific documents, it is far faster to type in 'Chase 2011' to get all my bank statements from last year than to search through the files.

      Keeping my life on the hard drive means that I have to use special care in backups, which I take using USB hard drives. The usual: rotating media, off site, annual benchmark that lives for years...

      I am much more comfortable now that I will be able to produce receipts for the IRS on request than I was with a paper filing system. This is far less work for me and I feel much better about finding things. Documents are stored in searchable PDF; no worries if AbbeyFine or ScanSnap go out of business.

      After seeing the recommendation here, I need to check into Yojimbo or Evernote.

    8. Re:Can you go paperless? by ColdWetDog · · Score: 1

      Scanned stuff works fine, at least according to my accountant. IF you ever had the IRS go back and question hundreds of documents - if they thought you were padding an account or similar - THEN the actual receipt might be useful. Otherwise, not so much.

      You do realize that lots of stuff doesn't even get to paper at all these days.

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    9. Re:Can you go paperless? by swalve · · Score: 2

      You almost HAVE to scan the receipts, because the original thermal paper will have turned pink by the time you need it. Posters below are right, almost everyone accepts electronic documents. Audits come down to plausibility anyway. It's the numbers that count. If you claim $40k in income and $20k in deductions, you are screwed no matter what. Also, the important receipts will be duplicated somewhere- credit card statement or canceled check or with the vendor.

    10. Re:Can you go paperless? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Or burn it all and run naked in the garden

      Best suggestion yet.

    11. Re:Can you go paperless? by rrkaiser · · Score: 1

      IRS has accepted scanned receipts since 1997. See http://www.entrepreneur.com/answer/222221 for the code citation. On paper means a document is authentic? Not for a long time.

    12. Re:Can you go paperless? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I am part of a 2-man IT team for a medium-large accounting company.
      EVERYTHING is scanned and stored in Creative Solutions File Cabinet... then destroyed or returned to their clients.
      EVERYTHING.
      There is only one printer on each floor of the building, and I can't remember the last time I had to replace the toner in any of them.
      I truely is a paperless company.

    13. Re:Can you go paperless? by Dainsanefh · · Score: 1

      and don't forget to vote Ron Paul so we can see the day that the IRS is abolished and we don't have to deal with this BS anymore.

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    14. Re:Can you go paperless? by MadShark · · Score: 1

      These days, I'm not even sure a paper receipt will last 4 years. I've got a bunch of them that have faded significantly in a years time.

    15. Re:Can you go paperless? by dak664 · · Score: 1

      Just keep the paper, i throw everything into one box. At the end of the year label it and start a new box. Rotate every 7 years, that is all you are required to keep records for the IRS other than cost basis for depreciation and capital gains. If you get audited bring the box and search for things on their time. This will tend to keep the audit short, as they have to give you the time but are rated by the amount recovered per hour.

    16. Re:Can you go paperless? by Zadaz · · Score: 1

      Nope, don't have to back them up with paper originals any more. A lot of things don't have paper originals. The Macbook I'm typing this on? Apple store emailed me the receipt. The Adobe software I'm running on it? Same. My phone and monthly phone service? Ditto. Yet these are all allowable business expenses. No paper needed. If the IRS needs a hard copy that's what a printer is for. They'll take it. I know.

    17. Re:Can you go paperless? by Tastecicles · · Score: 1

      no, there isn't. If the scan is done at 200dpi (which is the minimum legally required), and certified as genuine (not hard to do - you can self-certify as long as the person doing the certifying has at some point has physical sight of the original) then there is absolutely no need to retain the paper original.

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    18. Re:Can you go paperless? by gjkopf · · Score: 1

      Excellent idea! I am starting my box for 2012 right now.

  27. Easy by TastyCakes · · Score: 1

    Do it at work! Not only do they have better machines, you get paid to do it there!

    1. Re:Easy by TastyCakes · · Score: 0

      And by the by, if you have to poo and it's your lunch hour, wait! You'll get paid to do it a few minutes later.

    2. Re:Easy by ColdWetDog · · Score: 3, Funny

      Do it at work! Not only do they have better machines, you get paid to do it there!

      When will you surf Slashdot then?

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  28. By understanding "paperless" by realityimpaired · · Score: 2

    I go paperless by realizing that "paperless" doesn't mean I expunge all of the paper in my home, only that I don't print anything, and try to get all of my correspondence electronically. In other words, "paperless" means "consume no paper", not "have no paper".

    I still have old tax returns, etc. at home as well. I am still paperless, because all of new bills come electronically, I pay them through online banking, I no longer have print news or magazine delivery, and since I put a red dot in my mailbox the only "mail" I get are parcel deliveries and seasonal cards. I have tried to convince family to stop spending money sending xmas cards (especially since I'm not an xian and don't celebrate xmas), but good luck convincing your 90-year old grandmother that she shouldn't be sending you cards, when she's only just wrapped her head around your being a lesbian, and is still having trouble with the tree-hugging dirt-worshipper thing.

    1. Re:By understanding "paperless" by AdamWill · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Maybe you could stop being a self-obsessed idiot and cut your grandmother some slack. She's not sending you Christmas cards to spite your right-on tree-hugging ideals or because she's trying to convert you to Christianity. She's sending Christmas cards because that's what a lot of people do for the people they love. Ever considered that to her, *not* sending you a Christmas card might be as bad a breach of protocol to her as getting a paper bill or whatever is to you?

    2. Re:By understanding "paperless" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think you misunderstood realityimpaired - she wasn't suggesting her grandmother sends xmas cards to spite or convert her. What I 'heard' in her post is loving exasperation, not anger or resentment.

    3. Re:By understanding "paperless" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I suspect realityimpaired knows her grandmother better than you do.

    4. Re:By understanding "paperless" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "stop spending money sending xmas cards (especially since I'm not an xian and don't celebrate xmas)"
      To say am not xian and do not do celebrate xmas is just a chick thing now-a-days.
      Its new a fad, will pass off in its due time once these yucky guys understand life and real emotions than taping ipads their parents gifted for them to be happy.

    5. Re:By understanding "paperless" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What a fucking idiot ...

  29. 3 years by V-similitude · · Score: 1

    I'm always slightly tempted to find a solution for scanning paperwork, but it's just not worth it. Three years is about the most time you'll need any of that stuff -- it's not like photos and such that you want to digitize to keep forever and have easy access to. So throw everything in a box during the year. It's easy enough to find what you need through one year's paperwork. Then sometime after new years, box it up and throw it in a closet. After 3 years, shred it.

    If you want to keep track of finances there are much better solutions than scanning receipts. For example, Mint.com.

  30. Pay someone or rent a scanner by oldspicepuresport · · Score: 1

    I did this as my summer job last year. We were tasked with converting many (hundred) bankers boxes full of files into electronic format.

    We used the Canon DR-9050C, which I believe runs about $10k retail. This is considered a "production" scanner, and so is top of the line for its class. It was generally a great scanner, scanning about 100 ppm with good resolution. That being said, even this scanner had occasional problems with taking multiple sheets in at once (especially for files older than 4+ years, and light-weight paper). The hassle involved with organizing, de-stapling, taping receipts to paper, lining everything up for the scanner, etc. is really the biggest drawback with this sort of operation.

    Depending on how many files you have to scan, it may honestly be worth your time to contract this out (look for 'document management' companies), if your time is worth money and you have a lot of files it is probably a better option. If you don't want to contract it out, look at renting a production grade scanner because anything less will see you go insane with frustration. Our scanner came with excellent software that scanned directly to various formats, we scanned to PDF. Many of these production scanners also allow you to use OCR, which obviously takes longer to scan but is pretty damn cool.

    There were 2 of us scanning, it took us about 6 hours to scan 4-5 bankers boxes, this includes the organizing, destapling, taping, etc. So to give you a metric, this 10k machine allows 2 people working diligently to scan about 1 bankers box of files every 1.5 hours. If you are scanning a bunch of small files it can take significantly longer, a bankers box full of 80 personal tax files took far longer to process than a box full of 150-400 page corporate files.

    Lastly I'll say good luck, this can be a pretty mind-numbing job, but the end product is well worth it :)

  31. Do it "passive agressive" ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    just don't print yourself, the trees for the stuff that you get in the mail are already dead anyhow, just don't print anything yourself, ideally don't even own a printer.

  32. got somewhere to go? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What's wrong with it taking months to scan? You've been fine this long. Do a couple a day, and scan new stuff from now on.

  33. eInvoice by Kjella · · Score: 1

    More and more companies here in Norway now offer eInvoice (eFaktura). Basically they arrive at my online bank as a PDF that I can download and archive/print or just leave there for reference, the archive goes back years. You can use it with or without automatic billing, so if you prefer to manually approve each invoice you can do that. It also gives you a simple link back from payment to invoice, brilliant. No fiddling with papers and a scanner, no large documents, no OCR issues, cheaper for them, easier for me, a win all around and much more secure than my email, as secure as my online bank. Why the rest of the world hasn't adopted it I don't know, I'd say it's a brilliant system.

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    1. Re:eInvoice by emj · · Score: 1

      It has some problems:

      1. the person who pays needs to be the same as the one who is on the invoice. So you can't give a subscription to anyone without having it in your own name.
      2. the invoices are not kept by my bank but by a service provider, using different standards with different quirks
      3. making a local copy of these HTML/PDF/txt documents is horribly slow. They all have different systems filenames, which have nothing to do with the invoice.
      4. I need to have at least one paper invoice before I can get them electronically.

      The one good thing is that I don't have to care about invoices at the end of the month, just press pay.

    2. Re:eInvoice by Kjella · · Score: 1

      1. the person who pays needs to be the same as the one who is on the invoice. So you can't give a subscription to anyone without having it in your own name.

      Strictly speaking this is false. The subscription is in your name but you can always look up the payment id (KID) and pay it from a different account or by a different person or manually in a counter. But I don't think there's an easy way to gift a subscription, no. This would have to be solved outside the eFaktura system as having one delivery and one billing address.

      2. the invoices are not kept by my bank but by a service provider, using different standards with different quirks

      Not sure what you're referring to here, my links stay in my bank's domain and the standard has been PDF for everything.

      3. making a local copy of these HTML/PDF/txt documents is horribly slow. They all have different systems filenames, which have nothing to do with the invoice.

      Mine are generally 20-100 kB somewhere, they're direct digital invoices not 1+ MB scans. I do agree there's no consistent naming though and I do have to get them one by one.

      4. I need to have at least one paper invoice before I can get them electronically.

      That is also not true on two accounts. One they can have you fill out and sign a paper form authorizing an eFaktura agreement (my gym did that when I signed up). The other is that you can actually look up the eFaktura providers and create an agreement before the first invoice, though almost nobody does. It's actually with good reason because they don't want the invoice fraud companies that sends bills for services you haven't signed up for to use the system.

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  34. Evernote by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Add in Yojimbo or Evernote and you'll be set.

    The one thing I don't like about Evernote is that you cannot buy it; your only choice is to rent it at $x/month. There is no option (I asked) to simply pay them $y once, and simply get the current version of the software.

    I have no need for all the online syncing stuff (which I can understand as a monthly fee), and have no desire to send personal documents into the cloud (especially since it's in the US and I'm in Canada).

  35. Keep the paper, it lasts. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Keep the paper; tax returns, brokerage confirmations etc. The paper in a box, in dry place, is a safe and long lasting storage medium.
    Any electronic version will be ephemeral . I am still providing proof of purchases for stock fraud schemes of the early 2000s.
    Get large manila envelopes, at the beginning of the year take your old (two years ago) stuff and put in the envelopes , label them, Tax, brokerage, paid bill, ... .
    In ten years the box will be full. get another one.

    NB: Tax can be audited 3 years from date of filing. AND there are ways to get beyond the limit.
     

  36. Use a bidet. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That's where I'd start :D

  37. Install a PDF exporter as your default printer by HouseOfMisterE · · Score: 2

    Install a PDF exporter/printer as your default printer on your PC/Mac/etc. For Windows I would recommend the free PDFCreator from http://sourceforge.net/projects/pdfcreator/ .

    I do a lot of online shopping and like to keep a copy of my purchase receipts. I print my receipts to PDFCreator, name the output file something descriptive (YYYY-MM-DD - Merchant + Item description.pdf) and save the PDFs to a receipts folder. It fulfills my needs, doesn't waste paper, and I can print a receipt copy if I ever have the need.

    1. Re:Install a PDF exporter as your default printer by BasilBrush · · Score: 1

      No installation necessary on a Mac. All that's build in as standard.

  38. Simple: I don't by msobkow · · Score: 1

    I like having hard copy of important documents filed away for future reference. They don't take up nearly as much space as my paperbacks, CDs, and DVD collections do, so the 1-2 boxes of paperwork is just flat out not worth worrying about for me.

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  39. Digital Camera by adamgolding · · Score: 1

    1. http://www.sharpics.com/tabletop-monopod-p-28.html
    2. Digital camera with a remote switch option (i.e. Poweshot G10)
    3. Black Surface
    4. Bright Lights
    5. http://www.i2s-bookscanner.com/produits.asp?gamme=1011&sX_Menu_selectedID=path_1011_GEN (To 3d deskew text)
    6. http://finereader.abbyy.com/ (to straighten up text a bit more in the 2d realm, and OCR the book)

    Via this method it's about as fast as you can flip the pages. (Use the remote switch with your foot.)

    Unfortunately you can't buy this convenient device any more:
    http://hughsung.com/blog/index.php?itemid=61

    1. Re:Digital Camera by Tastecicles · · Score: 1

      Not trying to sound like a paid shill, but I find Acrobat covers the processing (correlating, straightening, OCR etc.) beautifully. Well worth the money if you're doing a LOT of document processing.

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  40. Use a digital camera? by hawguy · · Score: 3, Informative

    When I had a bunch of old documents i wanted to image, I used a tripod to suspend my digital camera over my desk pointing downward, set it to fixed focus along with a bright light nearby, then my wife and I started snapping pics as fast as I could lay pages out. We used a DSLR, but any camera should work. Setting it to fixed focus was key to prevent focusing delays.

    I'd put a page on the desk and she'd snap a pic as soon as I'd lay it down (with a remote shutter release, it would be easy to do it with one person). We did over 1000 pages in less than an hour - it took longer to shred the docs than it did to image them because the cheap shredder kept turning itself off due to thermal overload. I taped the focusing ring and zoom ring in place to make sure it didn't move out of focus and spot checked a few docs along the way to make sure everything looked good. My 10MP camera gave around 250dpi resolution for legal sized documents, which was more than sufficient for my needs. I originally thought I'd save them as uncompressed TIFF's and convert to PNG's, but it turned out that the "fine" JPG setting on the camera gave good results with small file sizes (and didn't need as many memory cards). I've printed a few of the docs since then, with adequate cropping in an image editor, the printed docs look about as good as a photocopy.

    Maybe not the best solution for ongoing needs, but if you have a single big batch to do and you don't want to spend a lot of money on a scanner, it might be worth looking into. This method would work well with poor quality and/or oddly shaped originals like thermal paper receipts.

    1. Re:Use a digital camera? by MarkRose · · Score: 1

      Your shredder is too slow? Then you should read slashdot more often! The solution is known!

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    2. Re:Use a digital camera? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      1000 pages in less than an hour, are you and your wife really humans ? Can we send a bladerunner there :)

    3. Re:Use a digital camera? by hawguy · · Score: 1

      1000 pages in less than an hour, are you and your wife really humans ? Can we send a bladerunner there :)

      1000 pages in less than an hour, are you and your wife really humans ? Can we send a bladerunner there :)

      Once you get in a rhythm, it's easy. There are 3600 seconds in an hour, so 1000 per hour is one page every 3 or 4 seconds. The nice part about using a digital camera is that you really can scan as fast as you can lay documents out since the "scan" happens nearly instantly. I'd lay out a document and as soon as I'd go for the next one, she'd snap the photo.

      It helped that the paperwork (old business records) was well organized in file folders and easy to scan, just grab a file folder from the box (which had around 20 to 50 unstapled pages), and lay each page out one at a time. When the stack of scanned pages got over 1/2" high, I'd move it to the shred box.

    4. Re:Use a digital camera? by Tastecicles · · Score: 1

      Camera: sounding like a better solution for those who don't mind the strange distortions you don't get with a flatbed.
      Shredder: wha? Why not just incinerate the originals?

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    5. Re:Use a digital camera? by Tastecicles · · Score: 1

      1 page every 3.6 seconds... doable, I reckon, even with just one person (would need a remote shutter release though) and a fast enough camera.

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    6. Re:Use a digital camera? by hawguy · · Score: 1

      Camera: sounding like a better solution for those who don't mind the strange distortions you don't get with a flatbed.
       

      My camera was mounted about 3 feet above the documents (tripod was bungied to a bookshelf next to the desk) and I didn't notice any strange distortions. Printed docs seem equivalent to a photocopy.

      Shredder: wha? Why not just incinerate the originals?

      As an apartment dweller (limited storage space was the whole reason for getting rid of the paper documents), I don't really have easy access to a burn-barrel (or even a fireplace) to incinerate documents in.

    7. Re:Use a digital camera? by Polo · · Score: 1

      I've done the same thing. I have a lot of .jpg files sitting around on my hard disk with images from over the years -- all done with a DSLR and an inverted tripod. Many tripods allow you to reverse the center column so the camera hangs downward underneath the tripod, which is a big win.

      What's interesting is now I do the same thing -- better -- with my iphone.

      I always have my phone with me, so I can snap a photo of documents as I get them and immediately put them in the discard file. It can also do large batches if needed, although at some point you'll have to let it go off and process all the images.

      The reason it is better is that there are plenty of apps that take pictures and spit out .PDF files. They do lots of sophisticated things -- if you handhold they will wait to take the picture when you hand is stable using the accelerometer. They will scan in batches of photos and process them later. You can get batches of photos from your camera roll. They do edge detection and de-skewing so you end up with a true page in a .pdf instead of a picture with a page in the middle. They can enhance the image in various ways to make them more readable. And they can do OCR (though I never found one that worked as well as I expected), and annotate .pdf files. You can instantly mail or fax your .pdf file, or save it to the cloud.

      Oh, one significant advantage of the digital phone vs the DSLR is that you automatically carry your documents with you on the phone. I've scanned in calendars/schedules and referred to them many many times later to see when something is scheduled or when it starts.

      The app I currently favor is CamScanner+, but I also use JotNot Pro too. There seem to be other apps that pop up all the time (but you can't find anything in the app store so it's trial and error to find them)

  41. PageScanner App by cpollett · · Score: 1

    To quickly scan stuff I just use the PageScanner app for my iPhone. It takes a picture every ten seconds or so and when done combines them into a single PDF. Since its in your phone, it is super portable and convenient.

  42. Got a match? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'll take care of all that paper.

  43. Jams and MultiFeeds - Live with it by marphod · · Score: 1

    I've got a Canon GS-50, and over the past month have made the transition from huge amounts of papers to everything digitized.

    My solution for multi feeds and jams? Notice, recover, and rescan. It honestly doesn't take that much longer. You will want to keep a quick eye on every page, anyways, in case of poor scans, off-perpendicular feeds, OCR-recognition failures (not so much the accuracy of the text, but the analysis confusing a block of text with graphics), and to trim blank or excess pages (page 8 of a 7-page duplex document, or page 2 of my financial statements which are the exact same notices 10 years running). Fire and forget would be lovely, but it doesn't happen.

    It isn't like I only have a few things to scan, either. I have more than 15 kilos (33lbs) of documents to shred, plus the ~4 kilos (9lbs) I've already shredded and about another 10 kilos (22lbs) of scanned papers that don't need to be shredded before recycling (e.g. college club annuals). For the record, there are about 100 pages of standard 8.5x11 paper to the lbs (220 pages to the kilo -- equal to about 6500 sheets -- although many of the pages were significantly smaller like checks and the 'keep for your records' portion of bills).

    It took less than a month at a couple hours a day to handle approximately 12,000 page-faces (lots of duplex pages, and the total sheet count is closer to 9,000 given how many were undersized pages).

    ---

    Is it worth keeping old records? That depends. Some of these documents (e.g. my mother's living will, my house's deed) I need to keep a physical copy around regardless. Although this leaves me a copy on hand and I can put the original in a safe-deposit box. Some of these documents have limited lifespans (did I really need to scan the bank statements escrow account for my former tenant who moved out years ago? Probably not). Others are good to have forever -- I've looked up phone numbers from phone bills 15 years old, to get back in touch with someone. I need to keep many of my investments receipts so I can deal with taxes when they are sold.

    For me, it is much easier to be a pack-rat of electronic files that fit onto a USB key, than to have stacks of papers around the house. If you don't have that much paperwork, don't need to store it indefinitely, or don't have the MustKeepEverything instinct, it probably isn't worth it to scan everything.

  44. Use a camera by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Easy. Use a camera. Even a camera phone has enough resolution fo a single page, a regular compact digital snap can be 6 pages laid out on the kitchen table and is easily legible.
    Scanners are too much hassle.

  45. Brutal tossing by rueger · · Score: 1

    Become brutal about tossing/shredding/recycling any bit of paper that's not ABSOLUTELY needed. Even my packrat girlfriend ends up with an entire year of tax and business related stuff in one 4" binder. Most of the paper that people hang on to (and e-docs as well) is entirely disposable.

  46. Receipts w Disappearing Ink by Green+Salad · · Score: 1

    Some receipts are printed with disappearing ink. Some can't be read after a month...yet alone 3 years. This is especially true of the copies on yellow receipt paper. I scan when my wallet gets too fat to fold. Scanning allowed me to take deductions that more than paid for the scanner.

  47. How about become "scanner free" by mykepredko · · Score: 1

    Well, not completely.

    But you don't seem to be able to buy a printer without an integrated scanner.

    At home, I have a regular printer (with a scanner), a large format printer (with a scanner) and a photograph printer (with a scanner).

    It would be nice to be able to get a cheap printer without a scanner attachment - I'd even be willing to pay the same amount if the quality (and longevity) of the printer was improved!

    myke

  48. Fujitsu ScanSnap. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Fujitsu ScanSnap. I got one six years ago for this purpose, and I'm using it to this day. It is a bit pricey upfront (the entry level model is $400) but it is totally worth it. Fast, excellent paper handling, good quality scans. I've emptied out four filing cabinets with mine, and I continue to use it yeas later.

  49. Which Fujitsu ScanSnap? by walterbyrd · · Score: 1

    There seems to be many models.

    http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss/185-9740896-4241560?url=search-alias%3Delectronics&field-keywords=Fujitsu+ScanSnap&x=10&y=19

    1. Re:Which Fujitsu ScanSnap? by LordLimecat · · Score: 1

      1500m is fine, Ive also used 500 and 510s, and they all work about the same. Difference seems mostly to be speed, etc.

    2. Re:Which Fujitsu ScanSnap? by BasilBrush · · Score: 3, Informative

      S1500 is good if it won't ever move from a desk.
      S1100 doesn't have a document feeder, but could be OK if you need utra-portability.

      S1300 is a good compromise. A document feeder and also portable. It's the one I have and I like it.

      They all use the same software.

      Note that these scanners don't use TWAIN drivers. Which is mostly a good thing as TWAIN has drawbacks, and makes scanning fiddly. But it does mean these scanners won't work directly from within apps that use TWAIN, and might be a problem with Linux machines.

    3. Re:Which Fujitsu ScanSnap? by tgeek · · Score: 1

      The 1500 is the successor to the 510 which, likewise, was the successor to the 500. The "m" denotes the Mac version (same scanner, different bundled software). Each (AFAIK) includes a bundled copy Adobe Acrobat Standard. I guess this is good or bad depending on your opinion of Acrobat (personally I hate it, but it's a necessary evil if you have other applications that only have Acrobat plugins available). No problems with portability or dependability either - I have auditors hauling 30+ all over hell's half acre without a single problem in the past 5 years or so.

    4. Re:Which Fujitsu ScanSnap? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I have an S1500M. It works perfectly under GNU/Linux - it is supported by SANE.

    5. Re:Which Fujitsu ScanSnap? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      the ScanSnap's SANE support is 'complete'.

  50. Work online-only with your clients... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Here in western Europe more and more can be done exclusively online.

    I send bills as PDF (creating them in Google Docs nowadays) to my clients. I fill my VAT-fillings using the online website (ultra-piece-of-buggy-crap and it's an horror to get the TLS/SSL certificates right but it can be done). Same for the IRS fillings: all online (and it's also buggy as **** but, well, it can be made to work).

    I ask for my utility bills to come online (some companies even beg you to move to the online version of their billing system).

    I use emails instead of letters, etc.

    Old paper sh!t goes into big boxes labelled by years, but since a few years it's nearly all only online stuff.

    Once in a while I do print a good ol' letter. That's what HP LaserJet 4M+ and netcat'ing PostScript are made for ; )

  51. Even hand-held in a pinch by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    When I was in a seemingly endless business travel, I discovered through desperation that my little 12 megapixel Canon pocket camera could take a decent whole-page document image. The JPEG files are also small enough to snap many pages and then go through the images to purge things later in batch mode, using a photo gallery program.

    It's not as crisp as a good flatbed scan, but it is more readable than a fax, perfectly readable right from the camera, and easily cleaned up with usual digital photo post-processing tools (just to normalize the whites/blacks and perhaps crop to the page edges) if you want to make a clean print or PDF later for some reason. I used Gimp to crop/rotate/scale images to exact page sized images when I needed to print them. For one-off jobs I would also clean up the color curves in Gimp, but for large documents I ended up using a shell script and command-line Linux tools to adjust colors and convert many pages at once into a single PDF. In my experience, maybe 10% of the pages I imaged and stored would ever get this treatment because I had to submit them somewhere in electronic or paper form.

    I placed the document on the floor, stood over it with flash and focus-assist lights enabled, zoomed into telephoto mode (to reduce barrel distortion from the lens) and then framed it up using the LCD on the back and took a shot. For multi-page documents, I spread them out and then walked down the line, efficiently snapping many pages in a row. You immediately realize the great throughput a camera has compared to any consumer scanner, and easily adapt to odd page sizes, stiff paper, etc. which would disrupt a page feeder.

    The best technique was to lock my forearms against my hips, hold the camera as parallel to the floor as I could, and "pan" by swaying my hips while maintaining a good, flat focus plane. The first couple pages were difficult, but then I learned how the camera felt when correctly positioned, and started getting good shots on the first exposure. For small receipts and statements, I placed them on a blank white page so I could clean up the image later if needed, including cropping and scaling to the known page size and maintaining the physical dimensions for printing a 1:1 copy.

    1. Re:Even hand-held in a pinch by Tastecicles · · Score: 1

      I've not seen that feature on a camera before... I've used a Kodak C633 (don't ask) to snap images of documents (don't ask). OCR was a nightmare.

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  52. Paperfree...umm... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    if you're scanning paper, then you aren't paperfree. you're still wasting paper (the things you printed or were printed and sent to you).

    1. Re:Paperfree...umm... by GiMP · · Score: 1

      Wasting paper and other resources. Disk space might be cheap, but it still rests on natural resources.

      Unless this person has a severe problem of not having enough storage space or a severe fear of fire, I just don't get it.

  53. Mod parent up. by ricky-road-flats · · Score: 1

    He's right. This is what I do - I can't be arsed to walk to the nearest scanner at work anymore, as a simple shot of my iPhone takes a good-enough picture of a side of paper.

  54. Fujitsu snapscan, and maintain it by myxiplx · · Score: 2

    As others have said, Fujitsu Snapscan. For around £350 you get a compact dual sided scanner that just works. We used them in a previous job and they had no trouble scanning thousands of pages a week with almost no jams.

    Also, if any scanner starts to pick up multiple sheets or jam, look for a maintenance kit. Replacing the pads and rollers is a simple, routine task and does wonders. We kept spares in stock and had to service scanner feeds every couple of years or so.

    1. Re:Fujitsu snapscan, and maintain it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      what they've all said about the Snapscan, and double it. I got myself the Fujitsu S1500M for Xmas and it has eaten through boxes and boxes of papers in the last 2 months. Honestly, I've spent more time shredding paper and naming files than I have tending the scanner.
      It has a plastic sleeve for pages that are ripped and likely to cause jams. It also pays not to overload the page feed, and to fluff out stacks of old papers a bit so that they don't stick together.

      You have to be dedicated to sorting, shredding and tossing papers brutally.

  55. Re:half a dozen of mouse clicks by DocSavage64109 · · Score: 1

    Maybe you should download AutoIT and make a script to automate some of that.

  56. Copier at work might do the job... by woo2the2 · · Score: 1

    If you work at a place that has a commercial-grade copier, they most likely have a scan function that will scan to PDF (or TIFF) to a folder or an email. You can get rid of a large backlog of paper and then once caught up, go for a consumer-grade duplex scanner like the ScanSnap (from what I can tell from the reviews it is the best of its class, but I don't own one.)

  57. Very bad idea by sgent · · Score: 4, Insightful

    although some paper work can be eliminated after 4 years, other needs to be retained much, much longer. Supporting documents for tax returns -- especially those not reported by third parties to the irs -- should be kept for a minimum of 3 years AFTER you file the return. Six years if you have under-reported or taken aggressive deductions that may reduce your taxes due by more than 25%.

    In addition you should retain every receipt for the purchase and capital improvements to your house until (see above) years after you sell the house -- this includes new roofs, AC, appliances, remodeling expenses, etc.

    Stock records should be kept as above.

    Contracts (esp. big ones) should be kept until the contract is completed, and at least until the statue of limitations runs out.

    This doesn't even get into business property -- where you can be audited on a desk you purchased up to 14 years later (in theory). Property related to assets (vs. expenses) should almost be retained indefinitely.

    1. Re:Very bad idea by WuphonsReach · · Score: 2

      Which doesn't change the math much.

      1. Make sure that all *new* documentation is scanned in addition to being filed.
      2. Start throwing out paper that aren't needed any longer.
      3. Scan items that you identify in step #2, which need to be kept for at least another 5 years.

      No need to dig back through 10+ years of records, scanning everything. Just scan the stuff that passes the "3+ years old, and still needed for another 5+ years" sniff test and you'll cut the workload down by 10x or more.

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    2. Re:Very bad idea by rubycodez · · Score: 1

      those supporting documents can all be digitized, gramps

    3. Re:Very bad idea by sgent · · Score: 1

      Sorry if I wasn't clear.

      I was replying the the parent thread which indicates you can throw away everything away in 8 years.

      Digitizing is not a problem at all, and I never meant to indicate it was.

    4. Re:Very bad idea by Ritchie70 · · Score: 1

      It just isn't worth the work to digitize old records unless you're living in a truly small, small, small place.

      I have every tax return I have ever filed since 1985 or so. It takes less than nine inches in a file drawer, including supporting documentation.

      And there is little chance of my file drawer having a crash, or its format going out of date and becoming unreadable.

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    5. Re:Very bad idea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      I have every tax return I have ever filed since 1985 or so. It takes less than nine inches in a file drawer, including supporting documentation.

      I call bullshit.

      That would be 229mm to store 26 years worth of paperwork. Or 8mm per year.
      Where the cheapest folder with pockets to hold that info is 2mm alone.

      That either means you are single, have been since 85, and haven't owned anything
      more expensive than a car that entire time, never donated much of anything, didn't
      go to school, or have any medical expenses. Oh, and did your taxes yourself on
      a 1040EZ each year.

      Then yeah... maybe you are using 9 inches of file space... but then you are also
      obviously not anywhere near qualified to respond to this question with your silly
      comparison.

      Not only that... it would be pointless to save those records since all of your tax
      history would simply exist on W2s and as far as the IRS is concerned, probably
      a complete waste of time to audit. And regular folk only have to save for 7 years...
      and my hoarding ass only saves for 10 years... so, yeah... bullshit.

      -@|

    6. Re:Very bad idea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Um, paragraph 2 only applies for homes that you can imagine increasing in value above 250k per individual, 500k per couple. 30 years in one house can accomplish this in certain metro or vacation areas. Most of the rest of us won't live to see our house worth more than 500k, let alone increasing in value 500k. The day this law passed, I stopped holding on to home improvement receipts and sang a song of relief for all the hassle I'd escaped.

      Basis cost, dividends and expenses for investments are treated as data of record; Generic historical stock values on date X are reretrievable via various methods at any time in the future. DRIPS and stock options get complicated enough to deserve attention, but it's not a matter of paperless/not as much as whether you bothered to track costs over time.

    7. Re:Very bad idea by Ritchie70 · · Score: 1

      You may call bullshit, but I call asshole.

      The first 5 years or so are all in a single file folder that, by thickness, looks empty. After that it gets thicker, but (I measured) it's actually more like 7 inches in the drawer than 9.

      In that time I've consistently had investment accounts, made IRA contributions, bought and sold houses, made charitable donations, and done all the other things adults do financially.

      This is in fact a full set of complete taxes, both state and federal.

      I have no idea what you're saving that is so damn thick.

      9 inches of copier paper would be something like 1500 sheets (if it's 3 reams. I have a gut feeling that a ream is around 3 inches thick.)

      Of course, you're likely never going to read this (AC) so I don't know why I'm bothering.

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  58. get doxie by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This is the next generation of Scanner, it's amazing: http://www.getdoxie.com/

  59. Re:I guess the asker is unemployed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Many "wired" pro-level scanners at the office are set to keep a copy of everything they scan.

    Are you sure you want to hand your tax and medical records over to your boss?

  60. Scanners suck by jasomill · · Score: 1

    In my (admittedly limited) experience, when scanning "assorted" documents like you plan to do, Fujitsu's $500 ScanSnap personal scanners aren't any more prone to jams than their $20,000 production scanners. If anything, they're somewhat less prone to mangling documents, simply because they run more slowly.

    With that said, if a few years of tax returns and legal documents will truly take months to scan, you have a massive volume of paper, and you should probably look into outsourcing. Using a Fujitsu ScanSnap, I scanned five years of receipts, tax documents, and correspondence for both myself and my consulting business in a couple days. At the time, I was the IT director for an authorized Fujitsu reseller, so I had half a dozen different higher-end scanner models available for personal use at essentially no cost, but there was no compelling reason to use any of them.

    The key to avoiding jams and double-feeds is simply a bit of document prep and paying attention to what you're doing. For instance, when a stack of papers is tri-folded into an envelope and the sheet feeder path is perpendicular to the folds, you will have problems if you expect to be able to absent-mindedly drop the (somewhat folded) stack into the feeder and walk away.

    More generally, the key to productive scanning is to come up with a routine that, while you are scanning, is as uniform as possible. You absolutely don't want to be in a position where you have to adjust settings for each document, so, for instance, you should scan everything in duplex, enabling the scanner's blank-page removal if desired, and you should have an "exception pile" where you place any documents that require special handling (e.g., enabling color), so you don't have to interrupt your workflow to toggle settings. Here I'm assuming that the vast majority of your documents will use one "main" setting, while a small fraction will require "custom" settings; if this is not true in your case, adjust the process to suit. You also don't want toÂbottleneck the process with synchronous processing, so if "in-line" OCR and/or image processing is materially slowing down scanning, you're probably better off disabling it and doing these tasks by other means (in batch when you're done scanning, via tools that watch a folder and process documents as they arrive, etc.).

    Finally, unless you have some form of robust automatic document classification, I've found it's far more efficient to separate "scanning" from "organization" — first, I scan everything into an "unfiled" folder with sequential, generic filenames, then once I've finished scanning, I use a combination of the OS X Finder's "quick look" feature and ad-hoc, keystroke-activated scripts to label and sort the documents. If you can enlist an extra pair of hands, you could clearly improve throughput by running an "assembly line" where one person scans and the other organizes.

  61. why? by pbjones · · Score: 1

    it doesn't make economic sense to go paperless. In some cases paper originals are still required. I would audit your material and find out how long you are legally required to keep items for, then trash anything that you don't need. I had about 10years and in some cases 20 years of paperwork, the most that I needed was 7 years, and a few items for proof of employment, the rest is now compost. I didn't spend ages scanning, I don't have to thank about archiving discs, it all fits in a couple of boxes on the top of a cupboard. Paper is more robust than discs, and formatting and OS issues are not there, vs disc or other software solutions.

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    1. Re:why? by the+eric+conspiracy · · Score: 1

      Going paperless is a bad idea. The number of required file boxes of critical documents over a typical lifetime is like about 2 or less. I know because I buried my 83 year old father last year, and that's all he had.

      Not to mention we don't have any sort of backup that is at l close to as reliable as paper.

      Now if you want to digitize some key items that you otherwise store in a safe deposit box, that's fine. But keep the paper.

  62. Photosmart + Xerox by markdavis · · Score: 1

    I use an HP Photosmart C6180 "all in one" along with gscan2pdf for most stuff. It works surprisingly well. Duplex is a bit painful, though. I usually scan once a year, in January, everything for the year, after doing my taxes.

    But sometimes I cheat and take some of it to work. It costs nothing to "scan to pdf/Email" on the leased Xerox Document Centre's, they make shockingly small but very readable outputs, and are SCARY FAST compared to anything else I have ever touched. I just spend 5 minutes of my own time on it, and can knock out many, many hundreds of pages.

    One option might be to see if your local FedEx Office or other type copy store has any Document Centres in their rental lineup.

  63. There Are Services by afabbro · · Score: 1

    You could look at services like ShoeBoxed, where you mail them a stack of documents or receipts and they send you scans back. They're one I happened to hear about - I'm sure there are competitors. Just using them as an example, not an endorsement - I haven't personally tried them.

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  64. Undistort feature on some Casios ... by timothy · · Score: 1

    Not sure about the model you have, but the Casio I have also has a "document" feature (not sure whether that's the word they use to label it, though, and it's not in front of me to check), which allows you to shoot a rectangular document and have it run a rectangularization algorithm on it, which can make the result look more "scan-like" rather than "just a photo." Not that it should matter for most purposes, in a sane world ...

    It's not perfect, though; sometimes I enjoy taking normal pictures -- that is to say, snapshots that *aren't* rectangular documents, or anything close -- just to see what the rectangularization will choose to do; sometimes the camera just balks, and sometimes the results are just plain weird ;)

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  65. Be vague. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    When they ask you for paperwork you sort of shrug and say "I was meant to keep a copy of that?"

  66. MOD PARENT UP by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This guy deserves to be heard, regardless of what the paullowers say.

  67. Paperless tax system by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Move to Estonia

  68. Paperless at home ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Fireplace comes to mind....

  69. Clean by kodiaktau · · Score: 1

    Personal or production scanners need to be cleaned and maintained. Using non-soap cleaners for the lenses and glass helps to keep the crap out. Document joggers align paper - but they also kick dust/dirt out of the paper to be scanned. Most importantly is keeping ahead on your rollers. Clean them with a swab and good alcohol (not the 60-70% medical grade stuff). When the rollers are worn - take them out and replace as soon as possible. Oxidation is the biggest killer of rubber rollers over time. Sometimes highly acidic paper (from the lingin) will cause early failure too. By keeping rollers clean you will have less trouble. Oh, and if you can adjust the tension in the rollers - do that too.

  70. Initially by Jason+Straight · · Score: 1

    When you start (and have a ton of stuff) going somewhere to use the big machines is probably your best bet. The Toshibas I work on scan at 80PPM. If they are well maintained and your paper isn't all tattered and folded they rarely double feed. Make sure you fan your paper out before putting it in the doc feeder.

    Then you can use a smaller home machine for your upkeep.

  71. Re:Simple Scan with Brother MFC-7840W by EdwinFreed · · Score: 1

    Mine is an MFC-8860N, but my experience is the same. I frequently scan 20-30 page double sided documents and I can't recall the last time it jammed. The Mac software isn't especially great but it gets the job done.

    The printer is actually the part that jams sometimes, but only when I'm printing a bunch of stuff on really thick paper.

  72. My accountant scans everything by Beryllium+Sphere(tm) · · Score: 1

    He has a business to run, and has been running it successfully for quite a while, so presumably he knows what he's doing.

  73. Fujitsu ScanSnap S1500M by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's expensive, but not enterprise expensive. Probably the best mid-range scanner I've seen; fairly quick, damned reliable and produces damned good output.

    Keep in mind any scanner that isn't five+ figures is going to have multi-page-grab issues, especially if you just take a bunch of papers, fail to separate them (ensuring they aren't 'stuck' to each other) and simply toss the whole stack in. It's the nature of the beast - going paperless is easy since you won't be tossing massive swaths of musty old crap in; it's dealing with the prior backlog that's time consuming.

  74. Neat Receipts.. by Paracelcus · · Score: 1

    Been using the little stick scanner for everything, the software is great! I recommend!

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  75. HP Document Sender... by Bert64 · · Score: 1

    I bought an old HP Document Sender (model 9100 i believe), it's the kind that business would have paid huge money for a few years ago, but now they're cheap on ebay, have a sheet feeder that hasn't jammed on me yet and can scan to email...
    It is massively more reliable than any of the home model sheet feed scanners i've ever tried.

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  76. Re:Simple Scan with Brother MFC-7840W by csnydermvpsoft · · Score: 1

    Another +1 for Brother MFC's. I have two - a 7840W at home and a 7440N (basically the same, but no wifi) at work, and they rock. They're both set up to scan direct to FTP - no messing with drivers. I also have my work one set up to integrate with an email-to-fax service, so the fax functionality works without a phone line - yes, it's not hard to scan a file and then email it, but having it integrated means that anyone can send a fax without me teaching them how to use it. I've never had either machine jam.

  77. Don't go paperless - it is too much trouble by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I use a mix of paper and electronic records. Things that arrive electronically get filed by yyyy/mm/what-it-is AND for financial stuff, an entry is placed into Quicken. The year is critical. It needs to be extremely accurate. The month is helpful, not too important as long as it is close.

    For paper things, I have a single 1" folder per year that I place papers into ----in-order----, then add an entry into Quicken. The same yyyy and month statements apply. Year is critical, month just needs to be close.

    Quicken is my system of record. Finding a receipt from 2010 is easy. If a recursive PDF grep in the 2010 folder for the company name ... doesn't find anything, I open Quicken and find the payment. That gives me an approximate date. I pull out the 2010 papers folder and can quickly get to the correct month. In the next 10 seconds, I have the receipt. Worst case, I have to look around in the month prior and after the date to find the receipt ... another 20 seconds.

    Simple. Effective. Organized, but not too much effort at all.

    Filing needs to be easy and effective, but not waste more time that necessary. Bring anal about organization doesn't help find the docs faster.

  78. My rig by mbstone · · Score: 1

    1. Hardware. Canon ImageClass D1120 multifiunction ($299 or less at Fry's after rebates). Yeah, it jams sometimes, but not very often.

    2. Software. Nothing beats eFax Messenger, free with monthly subscription to eFax service. It's great for scanning and for marking up scanned documents. Maybe it's even free with a free eFax account.

    1. Re:My rig by mbstone · · Score: 1

      Also check out Scan to PDF for your Android (free).

  79. Cheap dates. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    I don't understand Slashdot's obsession with articles and questions about turning simple, mundane tasks into grossly overcomplicated, expensive technical "problems" in need of grossly overcomplicated, expensive technical "solutions".

    Just wait till you see the "solution" for getting laid.

  80. Search feature essential by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It is not just scanning - I need to convert a document to an indexable text document. I get hundreds of ads for products which may be useful some day. Storing them is no good - I'll never find that gizmo I vaguely remember seeing 18 months ago. I'll have to google it, but a scan would be a nice preselection. And I don't want to spend a lot of time sorting my files; I want to be able to find what my water bills were in the last 3 years. Or phone bills.

  81. Not Really Possible to go Paperless by doodleboy · · Score: 1

    If it's more work to save a doc in a paperless format, or if it costs more, then it isn't practical and doesn't make a lot of sense. Also, if you are all digital and a little lazy about backups, you're only a disk crash away from disaster. I like having paper copies of important stuff.

    I do print most everything double-sided. This alone will save a huge amount of paper. Duplex printers aren't nearly as expensive as they used to be. I have a samsung clp-620nd, a networked color duplex laser printer. It's fantastic for the money (about $300), but I'm sure there are others out there that would work just as well.

    If I do need to scan, I have a cheap HP j4550 multifunction inkjet. I never bothered buying new ink for it, but I do use the scanner. Normally I'll import into SimpleScan and output to PDF. SimpleScan works surprisingly well. I also print to PDF for receipts and the like if I want to keep a digital copy. If it's important I'll also print a copy and put it in the file cabinet.

    My thought on scanning vs printing is, if it's important then do both. Don't keep anything that matters in just in one place.

  82. I use fujitsu fi-6130 for exactly the same purpose by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It is expensive, but brutally efficient and fast. I'm yet to see it mishandle a page. As added bonus it includes full version of Acrobat, so it outputs .pdf and works with Linux too.

    Disadvantages: It is not flatbed, so you can only scan free sheets

  83. Set you free by AchilleTalon · · Score: 1

    A gallon of gasoline, a match, take off you clothes and make a pile of them with your papers and set you free my friend!

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  84. Yes, but does it run Linux? by egork · · Score: 1

    I have a ScanSnap, but it requires Windows. Google Desktop for Linux was helpul to index the searcheable PDFs. And now Google has dropped it. Has anybody have a good solution with ScanSnap for Linux?

  85. Evernote+Fujitsu Scansnap by EW87 · · Score: 1

    I've setup several home-businesses with Fujitsu Scan Snap to Evernote setups, they already work together, and the searchable PDF's are INVALUABLE.

  86. Can you go debtless? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I can think of one example were keeping the paperwork helped. Years back I had paid off a credit card and had the statement saying I did. Years later here comes "buy off debt" company saying that I owed money to former credit card company. A swift showing of the paperwork and, begone debt collector.

  87. This an issue? by TheSkepticalOptimist · · Score: 1

    Trying really hard to figure out what paper I use at home and drawing a blank. Been filing taxes electronically for 12 years now, have all my bills sent to email and automatically paid. What few important documents I have usually have to remain "documents" and not digital files, like a house deed and legal papers. I have a small filing cabinet pretty much only filed with receipts and instruction manuals, and I could probably throw away 90% of it anyways. About the only paper I get in the mail these days is junk mail and that ends up in the recycling bin the moment I receive it. I don't subscribe to newspapers telling me "yesterdays" internet news. I mean, I am pretty much paperless already and I haven't even tried. I have a paper shredder that was last used 2 years ago and is still only half full and an all-in-one printer that has been collecting dust for years.

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  88. Legal issues by rev0lt · · Score: 1

    If you have those documents on paper, probably a scanned copy will hold no legal value. You should check if your local legislation allows you to present digital copies instead of the originals if needed. If you work at home or have a small business, you should check the accounting procedures for electronic documents, as many countries have different ideas of what an "electronic document" is (and most of them won't allow you to just digitalize the documents and throw the originals away).
    Storing paper isn't that much of an hassle, when compared to long-term digital storage, specially if you don't plan to need it soon. Buy a box of binders and separate the documents by year/month, or create an index.

  89. Go big by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    I'd go with the 5 figures scanner.

    Or you know... maybe a 1 figures box to hold some papers.

    Another option is a matchbook. Also 1 figures. You will be paper-free.

  90. Home paper use? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Buy a bidet

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bidet

  91. ScanSnap does NOT by rsborg · · Score: 1

    A ScanSnap costs $400, obviously quite an intricate product (iphones are less than this)

    Gotta nip this bullshit in the bud. iPhones are susidized such that even the "free" 3GS is costs a cancellation fee (~$400) and activation fee ($50ish). So the ScanSnap is *not* more expensive than an iPhone, even a 2 year old design.

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  92. TFS is inaccurate by Tastecicles · · Score: 1

    Enterprise-grade scanners are NOT expensive. I use an HP 7110 series MFD which OK, it snaffles an extra page now and again (it is rare this happens), but it is fast and has been reliable over the six years I've had it. While it is not 30ppm fast scanning at 600dpi, it is 3ppm fast which is SOHO fast (define "Enterprise grade" for us! I define it as "Not what you'd normally find in a home study"). I have used it to scan oh, probably half a million sides of A4 in the time I've had it.

    Cost? Change out of £600 new IIRC. You can still get them secondhand for around £100.

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  93. Re:How To Go Paperless At Home? by Tastecicles · · Score: 1

    You not figured out the three seashells?

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  94. Cut it off at the source by utkonos · · Score: 1

    Make sure that none of your service providers and organizations that you interact with send you paper based communication in the first place. Then use the round file for everything else. Why are you keeping these records anyway?

  95. Use your camera by Will.Woodhull · · Score: 1

    You can make or buy a simple rig to position a digital camera above a desk surface (I use a 1960s era tripod with the post mounted upside down, but it is a little awkward). Unless you need to capture color, you don't have to be very careful about lighting: you can use your camera in its black and white setting (that cuts the size of the files down a lot, too.)

    Most of the time you only need to consult the old paperwork and viewing the pages in a slideshow fashion is at least as fast as going through a bunch of PDFs to find what you need. On the rare occasion when you need to copy/paste a big chunk of text, you can run the photo image through any scanning software and get at least as good output as you would from scanning paper. Usually better, since it is easy to clean up a poor original in the Gimp, Photo$hop, or whatever. Even with that extra step, saving the pages as photographic images is a lot faster over all than scanning them with anything less than a commercial grade ($$$) scanner.

    You will need to come up with a good naming and folder convention if you want to be able to find anything quickly, but you would have to do that with the scanner output too. The difference is that with the photos, you would probably want to use more folders: one for each multipage document, probably.

    On a daily basis, it is easy enough to take photos of tax documents and the like as they come in, with camera in hand. I have a flatbed scanner on my desk, but it is faster for me to snap a photo, and if I had gotten the angle too wrong, take a better one, than to fuss with scanner and its software.

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  96. Virtural Post Mail by Taylor123456789 · · Score: 0

    I decided to go paperless, too. This means selecting electronic delivery of all the documents you can. For others who insist on sending you paper mail, get Virtual Post Mail (http://www.virtualpostmail.com/). They will scan all your mail to downloadable .pdf files. They will forward original documents if you wish or recycle them. They even have a check depositing service. It's about $100 per year.

    I have been using them for a few months now and it is working great. No more incoming paper. As others have said, don't bother with all your past documents, put them in a banker's box and destroy them over time. It will be too time consuming and expensive to scan all your past documents.

  97. Paper to digital by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I photograph any important stuff as I get it through the door. I tried scanning but it's tedious, and a reasonable digi cam with enough light is quite adequate. I may get a wifi SD card, then this makes transfer to the machine quicker. If I need to treat any images or resize, I do it in Photoshop with a saved action.

  98. Fujitsu Scanners are one pass, two sided scanners by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Virtually jam free and fast, Fujitsu fj-6130 is in the sub $1k range depending on where you buy. The are expensive because they are worth it.

  99. Business idea by jobiwankanobi · · Score: 1

    Interesting to come across this article. I had the idea for a business that trucks around one of these multi-sheet scanners (probably higher-end than the fujitsu previously mentioned but same brand), and scans your documents, with shredding service if needed. After this post, I'm realizing that a small office with voting-booth style setups where you can rent time on a scanner and computer that goes directly to memory stick would be good. It could use some version of steadystate where the information on the computer is wiped and rebooted at the end of each session. Shredders would also be available.

  100. Kodak Scanmate by mrbrown1602 · · Score: 1

    I work in a prosecutor's office that has gone "paper less" (because, unfortunately, law enforcement and the courts haven't gotten rid of their paper requirements) and we use Kodak Scanmate scanners to scan in thousands of sheets of paper everyday. They're excellent, moderately priced ($400ish), and I've never seen any of our ladies really have any problems with 'em.

  101. Patience by tsa · · Score: 1

    All those papers will become obsolete one day. Just scan your new stuff and throw the obsolete stuff away. In 5 years time you will be paperless.

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  102. why scan? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why scan? I don't bother. I get a few receipts that I keep, that's it. Taxes is mentioned a lot, but the tax people already get everything they need without involving me. They get the details of every bank account - including the payment of wages - so there is nothing left to report. They have all they need to know, and basically only send a letter with what they have. They ask "is there anything else", but for most people, there isn't. Not if you have a regular job and keep you money in some bank.

  103. The Paperless office is a myty! by rhalstead · · Score: 1

    The paperless society is a myth. My degree is in CS, I worked in Industry, a large multinational corporation, and I've had my own computers since 1980. We digitized everything, *BUT* we physically archived all important papers. Some papers you need to keep for a year, some for 3, some for 10 and some for life. The multinational corporation was life of the company plus 10 for some. Digitization is great (when used with a proper naming convention) as it allows you to find things. OTOH I've never known any one who hasn't lost a record or two. Some times it's hundreds or more and you may need those. It's not just scanning, but records retention, naming conventions, and back up. No one knows how long CDs and DVDs will last in storage. All we have are accelerated aging and projected results, but they are beginning to develop a pretty good track record. Just don't go cheap. One thing though is they are fragile. Sometimes you look at a DVD and wonder how it's still working and other times just a couple of light scratches render one useless. The Cloud, data integrity and security? I wouldn't use the cloud on a bet for business and personal data storage and it's been my profession. It just gives the hackers a better target. Also nothing is truly secure if it's connected to the Internet. If the wrong folks want to see it, they will! If the Feds want to peruse through the data base looking for "things", they will! You'd likely never know they'd been there. Remember that likely some one has a back door key to virtually anything on the net or in the cloud. Add to that storage going out of business. Huge amounts of data have been lost that way. Data integrity. I've done a lot of photography. I've found that every time I review files I find at least 3 or 4 (some times more) images that have become corrupt. Hard drives are probably the poorest form of storage for data integrity when it comes to images. However with the mass of data I keep I have noticed a marked improvement in HDs, particularly over the last 10 years. Of course it could be the OS and not the HDs. I've never lost a text record, but I can plan on having to restore a few images and particularly those saved as JPGs every time. OTOH that not too bad for many Terabytes of images saved as JPGs. All businesses that I know of, not only digitize, but they physically archive the original documents. In many cases the only legal document is that original. Generally, Wills, Deeds, and *signed* Contracts must be kept in physical form. Please note I said generally. Laws, regulations, and convention vary from location to location. If you really want to digitize everything *AND* throw out the paper, talk to a lawyer (from your area) who specializes in business law. He/she will tell you what you have to keep and how long and the risks if you lose the data. It may turn out not to be much...then again like the medical industry going paperless? There is a paper backup of every record. To top it off...most of them ... All I've seen, are still using XP Pro as do the corporations I worked for and retired from nearly 20 years ago.

  104. But what about the software? by dj_judas21 · · Score: 1

    I've been considering going paperless at home for a while. I have a flatbed scanner which may not be the fastest solution, but my paper archive isn't too large and I don't mind spending the time. But what (Linux-friendly) software do people recommend for organising the PDF output? I'm imagining something like an email client - documents arranged by date, with a subject and sender field, etc. Searchable and sortable! Since my volume is low, manual input of this metadata would be acceptable. Any ideas?

  105. fuck it, I'm scanning everything by ffflala · · Score: 1

    Receipts, business papers, envelopes, paper currency, coupons used & unused, every surface of every DVD/CD/album cover, handwritten notes to self, napkins, gum wrappers, each side of the thumb drive I'm saving the scans to, even pens and pencils.

    Then I'm throwing *everything* away.

  106. DocumentSnap site by Grail · · Score: 1

    http://www.documentsnap.com/

    Brooks Duncan will help you go paperless, tame your documents and provide useful hints. Well worth visiting.

    Of course, Fujitsu ScanSnap is the most recommended scanner. I have one myself, and it's a joy to use. Just put the paper in the tray, press the blue button. A short while later the searchable (i.e.: OCRed) document is sitting in my electronic Inbox, and the paper can go to the shredder.

    I use Leap to name and tag the documents, then Hazel conveniently files them away for me.

    Leap: http://www.ironicsoftware.com/leap/

    Hazel: http://www.noodlesoft.com/hazel.php

    Of course, I'm a Mac user. There will no doubt be similar products for Linux (using xattrs to tag files, perhaps?)

  107. Cat got your tongue? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Actually a lot of these guys live with their parents and they take care of their papers. So these guys are really paper-free! XD

    Seriously, even if you scan all papers in your house is a bad, bad, bad idea rely them in a hard disk or another digital solution. A hard disk crash and you will made lots of paperwork, even in "Digital" countries like Japan or USA. Specially for legal documents that need signature, or in a hurry you need paper copy and you can't download them -> You crash your car in an accident and you need a paper for your car insurance, you won't popup a tablet and download them specially if you are wounded or all your belongings are destroyed.

    Even in sci-fi movies like the Fifth Element they print small plastic cards with data, they never say "I'll download that to your phone-tablet-mind", so we can really be paperless after all? XD

  108. More interesting question: how to name/organize by NotesSensei · · Score: 1

    Once you got PDFs or JPGs you need to somehow organize them in a meaningful way: - by document date (a lot of extra work to add that)? - by type (could be done while scanning)? - by expiry date? - by sender/recipient ? OCR the content and make it conveniently available What system would do that?

  109. Paperless! I see what you did there! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hohoho!

    Paperless *sighs*. This is one of the classic jokes, it never gets old :D Right up there with the self-debugging compiler. Comedy gold.

  110. Fujitsu ScanSnap + DEVONThink Pro, not Evernote by aclarke · · Score: 1

    Unless you pay for Evernote (which I do), all your transfers between your device(s) and Evernote are unencrypted. So, unless you pay $6 per month, or whatever it is, you're sending all of your financial data unencrypted over the internet.

    Furthermore, even if you ARE paying for Evernote, all your data is stored in plaintext on their servers. If their server is ever compromised, or they have a rogue employee, you could be in serious trouble. If you choose to encrypt your data before putting it into Evernote, that reduces it to the point of uselessness.

    A year or two ago, I bought a Fujitsu ScanSap S1500M scanner. While it's possible to mess this scanner up with extremely long or ripped up receipts, it takes almost anything I throw at it. It feeds pages of different sizes, auto duplexes when necessary, does colour or black & white automatically, does OCR, and comes with a version of Adobe Acrobat. This product really has exceeded my expectations.

    DEVONThink Pro is good, but I suppose one mark against it is that I haven't used it to its full capacity yet. By this I mean that if it was better, perhaps I'd be using more than just a general store. On the other hand, I can always find a receipt in there if I need it.

    The biggest problem is that despite all this, I haven't really been able to go paperless. According to my accountant, Revenue Canada still wants hard copies, so if I'm ever audited (which seems to be almost every year for some reason or another), paper copies must be produced. Plus, if I hand in 30% of my receipts in electronic format, and the other 70% in paper format, someone has to go through each of those and ensure that all the data is there, and weed out the duplicates. This means that despite me scanning all my receipts, I still have to hand in the paper versions, and I still have to go through my electronic receipts and sort out which ones are duplicates of paper ones, and which ones are strictly electronic. Then I imagine that the person going through all this at the accountant's office is probably just printing it all out anyway to save time. Going through a stack of paper receipts is still just easier for most people than a directory of PDFs. Therefore, if they aren't printing it out, I'm paying for the extra hours to cover their reduced efficiency.

    The end version is, you can go to a lot of effort and implement all the technology you want to go paperless, but it's very hard and may not even be possible. I think it's still worth trying, though.

  111. Paperport by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I've been using Paperport for 15+ years to scan and store documents. The newer versions use pdf format while the older ones were proprietary. My current scanner is an HP 5590. Other then being temperamental on occasion it has worked well. ADF can do both single and automatic double sided scanning and the flatbed can be used for all the weird sized items. My main concern is HP seems to be dropping their quality on newer products. Paperport also has a printer driver so you can print to paperport and have the printout stored as a pdf. One of the nice things is I scanned a signature so now I can sign documents and email them off to wherever they need to go.

    The best part of electronic storage is it takes a lot less space then paper and is more searchable ;)

  112. Accept it by Dajhan · · Score: 1

    1st is...you got to ask yourself..."Can you live without all those papers?", "Do you honestly need them on hadcopy?"..after that you'll deal with insecurity, thinking its not safe to trust someone's server your scanned data, then you should ask yourself "Do you honestly think someone would be interested with your personal Data?" if someone will, don't you think that FBI has a copy of it? And, then if someone else would have an interest with your own private data, wouldn't they think to break in to your house and just steal those papers? Then, move on, scan them.