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Banned From Kickstarter For Being Cyberstalked
An anonymous reader writes "Rachel Marone has been a victim of cyberstalking for over 10 years. In 2011, she had a project on Kickstarter shut down because of the high volume of spam posted by the stalker in the comment section of the project. Recently, Marone's manager spoke to Kickstarter again to see how she could avoid having a new project banned if the cyberstalker showed up again. They replied, 'If there is any chance that Rachel will receive spam from a stalker on her project, she should not create one. We simply cannot allow a project to become a forum for rampant spam, as her past project became. If this happens again, we will need to discard the project and permanently suspend Rachel's account.' On her website, Marone sums up the situation thus: 'I am being told that I cannot crowdfund because I am a stalking victim. ... With so many women being stalking targets this does not seem reasonable to me.'"
While I hate to resort to tit-for-tat tactics, the obvious answer here is to spam all the founders' accounts.
Because, quite simply, that's 100% undiluted B.S.
In Soviet Russia spammers ban you!
Now she got Slashdotted too.
Then they came for the project managers,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't an project manager.
Then they came for me
and there was no one left to speak out for me.
The solution is clear, start posting high volumes of messages on all the other projects for supporting kickstarter, an organization that clearly supports 'cyber bullying'. I would imagine that after a significant amount of projects have been shut down, they'd turn around and actually fix the problem properly.
Change is certain; progress is not obligatory.
Perhaps her time would be better spent solving her stalking problem?
her site is down, slashdotted.
This story was on Digg and Reddit last night, too.
Spread it even more, contact Kickstarter, shame the hell out of them, plenty of negative publicity.
According to her she was banned by Facebook too. Methinks there is more behind this story.
the inability to comprehend the situation and the lack of enthusiasm in dealing with it in a forthright and efficient manner speaks volumes about kickstarters management culture. they sound like a bunch of incompetent buffoons.
"i represent an unbearable burden on some system and am upset that they won't accomidate me"
You're an idiot and should be kicked in the nuts.
"Have you ever thought about just turning off the TV, sitting down with your politician, and hitting them?"
Is this the feminist version of the "think of the children" cry?
Don't blame the website for not wanting to put up with your baggage. Blame the stalker. Take legal matters in your own hands and go after him/her.
Why can't Kickstarter allow for projects to disable comments?
Now she got Slashdotted too.
Isn't that interesting?
Looking at her websites and everything, she looks like one of those artsy people that would benefit incredibly from exposure. Actually, anyone doing any sort of business on the net needs exposure to get noticed.
Over the last decade, I've become extremely cynical about things like this.
If she were really getting threats and people were posting illegal things like child pornography as she said, then the cops would be involved to go after this guy and take him out. But no. Things are continuing for some reason and here she is getting all this free publicity and hits on her website.
Read up on any of the "Gorilla Marketing" type of books out there and you too will become cynical of any sort of public exposure.
From her website:
In my How Facebook Deleted My Ass article I discussed how my account was deleted because I was accused of impersonating myself.
. I don't consider FB to be that credible either, but then again, I wonder what made them come to that conclusion?
And if she is in fact truly being stalked, I blame the marketing people of the World for making public exposure of any sort a cheap way to market products, services, people, art, etc ...
After all, we do live in a World where people actually burn themselves to death to bring attention to issues. What's a little cyber-stalking?
This can lead to complete abuse (being able to shut down basically any and all projects at will) leading to the destruction of kickstarter. A simple solution would be to tie accounts to bank accounts/credit cards or whatnot, and have it verified by charging something like $0.35 (deal with transaction fee). That makes both the act of creating accounts and having accounts banned much more costly. Since this is a crowd funding program, this wouldn't be too much of a burden for the users are they will be dealing with money anyways.
This is absolutely ridiculous. I'm simply appalled that they would even SAY THAT. I'm not really that surprised though, as I've been on the receiving end of Kickstarter's questionable behavior as well.
I submitted a Kickstarter for a generic USBHID interface board (For making game controllers and input devices, though it really had tons of applications) and they rejected it for no reason. When pressed for an explanation, they said "Kickstarter is for creative arts projects and [my] project did not fit."
So, I guess having a DOZEN Kickstarters for Arduino clones going at any given time is okay, but if someone wants to make something that hasn't been run into the ground yet, fuck 'em! I mean, wow! I was only trying to get $500 together!
Friend: "The NIC is misconfigured..." Me: "No prob, I'll just telnet in and fix it." *Silence*
Maybe -just maybe- Kickstarter suspects but can't prove some commercial link between Marone and "her stalker". Having "a manager" talking to Kickstarter raised the red flag.
Creating a company and Kickstarting the project in the name of the company could be an alternative. You already see this is done by many projects on Kickstarter. The person's name could be revealed only on the video, when the project time is completed for Kickstarter, or only available for those sponsor the project.
Kickstarter, throw her out, whether she deserves it, or not.
While I think that Kickstarter could have handled it better; read the article on her website.
She got spam comments and she replied to them. She claims that she was being stalked and she recognised the stalker: why reply ? Just report them. You're not supposed to feed trolls.
It is clear the reason she got kicked off because she got interacted with the spammer and was part of the problem.
And WTF is a "transmedia artist" ? She uses various media, multimedia ?
I know kickstarter is going to get a lot of negative feelings about this, but I can't blame them for their decision. Look at all the crazy lawsuits that happen and succeed... such as a person suing the owner of the house they are robbing, after they injure themselves during the crime... there is a chance that if they allowed a project to go forward, knowing that it could provide a new forum for cyberstalking against someone with a long history or it, then kickstarter risks a liability lawsuit.
This isn't discrimination, it's just declining to serve a customer (which a businesses has every right to do) for a reason that has some merit to it. They don't want to be part of a bad situation and don't want to risk involvement or any form of responsibility for it. It sucks, but it's not unreasonable
I see. And the stalker who's actually doing all the spamming? Gets away free, right?
Oh yeah, that's fair.
Screw kickstarters and go somewhere else, or assume an alias.
So, I hear what you are asking for. You are asking for a digital equivalent of the USAs ADA or Americans with Disabilities Act that prevents sites from reducing the service level to people who bring with them a burden that they didn't ask for and must live with, right?
I don't know how "typical"/common-to-type, but I too smell a whiner. 10 years of cyberstalking isn't harassment, it is symbiosis. "Co-dependency" in PC-speak. I find it beyond incredible that a computer-savvy person would be stalked that long without identification and intervention by law enforcement.
OTOH, any site that complains of spamming needs to require registration or grow a pair. The cost of allowing anon is some spam tolerence, or filters of some sort. Banning positive contributors (is she?) enters the death spiral -- rewarding bad behaviour.
Seriously, I don't see what Rachel has done wrong here. The world sucks when a person is punished for being the victim of someone's insanity, insecurity, and inability to cope with the real world. When I read about incidents like this I don't want to live in this world anymore.
"i represent an unbelievable PR opportunity to kickstarter in catching a criminal, and am surprised they are lazy"
Actually, not that surprised.
I can't, it's wireless!
Change is certain; progress is not obligatory.
It's very possible that this is all a bs story on her part and she's just whoring for attention.
Kickstarter may have made the right call.
Reddit uncovered some more info about her, that doesn't paint her in a very good light:
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3840589
http://www.reddit.com/r/technology/comments/s97g4/banned_from_kickstarter_for_being_a_stalking/c4c5j7r
Perhaps we can crowdsource this project.
"i represent an unbearable burden on some system and am upset that they won't accomidate me"
You're an idiot and should be kicked in the nuts.
Rationale*, I*, Accommodate*
Come back next week when we learn how to spell cat!
As you all know I have a rockin' tight ass, a successful project on Kickstarter that you've all funded, and a cyberstalker that goes by the name of FrankSinatraDirtyTalker1915@comcast.net.
I originally met "Frank" back in College, where we dated for a bit. I should point out that he's not an old man, as his username might imply, but rather someone who is simply obsessed with Frank Sinatra and my gorgeous rockin hard ass.
Anyway, when I broke up with him he took it pretty badly. It was our Sophomore year at Rice University and I had just discovered gravity bongs and going down on another girl while blazed out of my gord. As I've admitted, these were confusing albeit fun times for me.
Meanwhile, "Frank" was raised as a Mormon but had recently converted to Scientology. I guess you might say he was experimenting with his own hallucinogenic homoerotic drug. This drug/sex/cult cocktail, combined with my round pulchritudinous derriere, and the sudden shock of losing his ability to play his daily role of dressing up as Dr. Parnassus while gently fondling my perky nipples and supple breasts that he had affectionately named the Merry Mammary Sisters of Nippopolis, and Queens of the Breastiary - led to Frank's complete mental breakdown.
I don't blame Frank for my rockin body, just as I don't blame you for being attracted to my intelligence and funding my project on Kickstarter. However, what I do not like is being stalked. I hope you all do what I do when you see Frank's messages on any thread related to my project. Just lick your index finger, point it at Frank's username and then say, "Ooooooooooooo ICE COLD! Mama thinks you're a BAAAAD BOYYYY! OOOOOO Ice Cold..." then point the same finger back at your left nipple and make a sizzling sound "SSSSSssssssssssss" and sing this little rap
Thank you all again for funding my project on Kickstarter. You're clearly invested in a winner!
also relevant:
http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3840589
http://www.reddit.com/r/technology/comments/s97g4/banned_from_kickstarter_for_being_a_stalking/
Wow, so tense, bro. Clearly you've never heard of this thing called "humor".
Change is certain; progress is not obligatory.
My first impression of the situation described in the summary is it sounds somewhat similar to a web host shutting down a user's account because their site was a magnet for DDoS attacks - a response which would be uncontroversial. Another analogy that comes to mind is the removal of users' comments in a discussion forum, following a legal threats to the site operator.
The fundamental similarity in all three circumstances seems to be the website operator not wanting to deal with a website user's "baggage", as an earlier poster here termed it. But the next question in my mind is what the differences are in the Kickstart case. Notwishtanding the fact that it's "their site, their rules", is there a point at which nature of the "baggage" may be trivial enough to deal with (e.g. a user being targeted by a spammer, rather than a DDoS botnet) that it's fair to criticise the website operator for being too ready to wash their hands of the victim?
Apparently. And there are no tools for project owners to deal with it or mitigate the problem. And we'll kick you if too much piles up.
Not a very useful service if there isn't some way to deal with a *very* common problem (the spam part, not the stalking part). Do they seriously not have a way to deal with unwanted/off-topic comments? No moderation system, or a way for the person who set up the project to control things? If the controls rely on them doing all the work, then they're doing it wrong.
Can you imagine what slashdot would be if there was no way to control the spam?
She makes claims that "police say he's too good for them and FBI won't investigate". Something I personally find very hard to believe considering she's claiming that he's systemically sending "her and hundreds of other victims child porn and infant rape fantasies".
Someone who doesn't fuck up when massively sending crap like that to hundreds of recipients for a decade? That's inhuman. And on top of the cake, her letters with the moderators clearly state that she actively talked to this stalker on their site.
I'm gonna go shutdown Wasteland 2. Pay me $500 and I won't.
I find it completely credible that stalking could go on for a long time and that law enforcement wouldn't help at all. Many years ago my girlfriend had a stalker. He was leaving weird messages on her car at home and at work and showed signs of escalating like messages on her bedroom window, which was in the back of the house. We went to the police with the notes, a summary of when and where things had been done as well as the text of the law against stalking and they refused to take a report. Her employer didn't like someone coming on to their property to harass an employee, so they had one of their attorneys do all of the paperwork and force the police to take a report. The guy was identified and convicted of stalking. Stalking is ignored by law enforcement until after the victim is raped or killed, then it can be used as evidence of pre-meditation.
Hey keep your stalkers and pedos for yourself. We have plenty of our own here...
I'm not stalking her, I love her and I want the whole world to know it! Rachel loves me too, she's just playing hard to get, she told me once. I'll follow her until the ends of the earth until she loves me.
I LOVE YOU RACHEL
You're an idiot and should be kicked in the cunt.
At least I am not an Anonymous Coward....probably the same as her stalker. I have more balls then either of you.
"Have you ever thought about just turning off the TV, sitting down with your politician, and hitting them?"
Agreed. TEN YEARS of stalking, yet she has the time and means to crowdfund a project. Interdasting...
Python: 'And then suddenly you have a language which says "we're all stuck with whatever the whiniest coder wants".'
Drama queen spinning up drama about a dude she has no intention of just ignoring.
Its a bird, its a plane, its maybe time for the EFF to jump up.
They do this sort of thing, dont they?
*Repent!Quit Your Job!Slack Off!The World Ends Tomorrow and You May Die!
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Yes, because we all know the cops will get RIGHT ON IT.
it took a LONG time to get Mabus, a cyberstalker/harasser who went after prominent atheists. And only because he was prominent.
If you're some person on the internet of little notoriety, good luck trying to get the authorities to do ANYTHING. It's not codependency if you're actively trying to get rid of this person out of your life.
Non impediti ratione cogitationus.
TFA seems to imply that she was banned for "engaging" with the spammer (over 300 times!) and not for being spammed, so I think they're totally justified in banning her.
KickStarter is not the only player - just saying.
In no particular order (actually, alphabetical, but in no order of preference.. except for that of the alphabet.. nnngh!)
boostive ckie crowdbackers crowdfunder eightbitfunding (games, not really applicable to your project) fundageek fundit fundry indiegogo investedin kickstarter peerbackers pleasefundus pledgie pozible quirky rockethub sponsorcraft sponsume ulule wefund
There's more, but most of them are very 'fund-my-life' or are platforms that are quite deadish.
And if you want to roll your own, give IgnitionDeck (wordpress plugin) a shot.
KickStarter may be the most popular, but IndieGoGo gets a good chunk of traffic as well. That would be my second choice.
I didn't find any information on your idea at your homepage, but if you'd still be interested in making it, make sure you put in shameless plugs in your comments.
Sounds like U do a bit o' stalkin/harassin/trollin urself.
You should all burn the place to the ground and kill yourselves.
They did the only sensible thing, and ban her. She's certifiably nuts. They didn't ban her because of her stalker. The OP should have researched this a lot better.
1: If he's so good and untraceable that the police can't track him down, how can anyone know he's been sending stuff to hundreds of victims? Each case will be untraceably separate.
2: Stalkers are not indiscriminate. Genuine stalkers get fixated on a particular individual. Hundreds of victims isn't "stalking" it's just being a serial ar$€hole.
Got them moderator blues I blieve I walk out the do', With these mod-points I been gettin', I 'most never post no mo'
Is it really possible to cyberstalk an attention whore?
semantics are everything!
I know this is not the case in Canada. The RCMP can NOT refuse to let you file a complaint, though they may well warn you that it's unlikely to result in an investigation or criminal charges if that's their assessment of your complaint.
But Canadian authorities can not and will not outright REFUSE to let you file a complaint unless you're drunk and ignorant or clearly in need of mental health treatment. It's part and parcel of Charter of Rights legislation that demands equal and fair treatment from the law and from government.
Nor have I ever known anyone in the US who was similarly rejected when they filed a complaint. But I DO know of SEVERAL cases where the charges were dropped by the accuser after they "reconciled" with the stalking ex.
That's one big difference here in Canada. Once you file a complaint, it's in police hands. You can NOT drop the charges because you aren't LAYING the charges -- the police do.
I do not fail; I succeed at finding out what does not work.
Rachel "Haywire" aka "Marone" aka "Mendelson" is a well known con artist, grifter and volcano of libel. She also collects an SSDI check for mental disability.
Ms. Jaeger:
It has come to my attention that Rachel Mendelson aka "Rachel Marone" aka "Rachel Haywire" aka "Transhuman X" may be allowed to use kickstarter again only 2 years after she took $3,000 with a fraudulent kickstarter effort. People are angrily posting on this page even as of a few months ago, and she has no plans to print the CD or to make any of the charitable contribution percentage she promised from this project. Please do not allow her to make any more kickstarter efforts, and defraud more people. Here is the page and the comments from people who never got their CD from her. By kickstarter's own rules, she should be required to return the donations at this point, not start a new fraudulent kickstarter campaign. She is very likely to start a new kickstarter account called 'Rachel Marone', be aware she is abusing kickstarter for financially fraudulent purposes.
Here is the link to the project that never did anything but take money:
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/machinekuntrecords/sanity-is-slavery
where you can see comments of complaint from its backers:
"If you’re a backer of this project, please log in to read this post.
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Erik Roy Tomren on September 26, 2011
so when is this coming out? the hard copy version, not the download.
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Cat on February 24
It's a year after this posting, almost two years after this was funded, and I have yet to receive my hard copy of this album. Very displeased. :/
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Steve Cross on March 15
Is the hard copy ever going to appear. A further update would be nice. I am not very happy!!
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I've been reading her PR. It looks like she did a small arts festival, and wants to do something else. She's tried being in a band, writing magazine articles, modeling, and organizing events. But no one is paying attention. There's little about her written by anyone else.
Sometimes she gets it right. Read her "John Galt is homeless", a brief reply to Ayn Rand. "We need to face the fact that Randian capitalism is no longer a way to advance oneself but a way to make oneself poor. The roles have now been reversed and it is no longer survival-of-the-fittest but survival-of-the-most-willing-to-please."
I've met so many people like that in the SF art scene. They're wild, crazy, fun, and can't quite make it. They tend to end up bitter by age 35.
Rachel 'Haywire' Mendelson aka 'Transhuman X' has a terrible
reputation in the music industry and just about every other area she
has had any contact with. She has a history of failed projects and
worse not paying people like video production technicians and
artists for contracted work they supplied her with. Rachel has
never held a job, not even for one day. She collects SSDI checks
for mental illness. You risk tarnishing your own fine reputation
by association with this petty grifter and frankly insane
individual.
I find it even more troubling that Rachel Haywire Mendelson aka
"Transhuman X' (is her original name to embarrassing to use now
with her wide and well known bad reputation?) wants to run a
festival on Other People's Money when she tried to get the well
loved Kinetik Festival shut down over her completely groundless
charges of racism.
Kinetik Productions Inc
Montreal (Qc) Canada
NEQ: 1164635469
www.festival-kinetik.net
Object : Rachel Haywire / machineKUNT Records / Experiment Haywire
Montréal, November 29th 2009,
Kinetik Productions wishes to bring to your attention the continual
attack from Ms. Haywire against the Kinetik Festival and Kinetik
Productions company image. Over the past 3 years, we have asked
several websites to remove her harmful and derogative comments
concerning the Kinetik Festival and the musical acts present during
the festival.
Unfortunately, she had made a personal business to attack the
festival and some bands performing during Kinetik festival, without
investigating the alleged facts. She tried to put down the festival
based on her statements. The severity and frequency of her false
allegations gives us no choice but to warn you against Ms Rachel
Haywire.
For the past three years, we had to get in touch with Ms Haywire in
order to ask her to stop these repeated, intrusive and unwanted
words, intended to adversely affect the reputation of the bands and
the Kinetik festival. She, unfortunately, neglected to answer our
demands and continued attacking the festival and its acts.
The Kinetik festival mission is to cultivate originality,
innovation and diversity in the musical performance arena. During
this event, several emerging and well-established artists gather in
Montreal to celebrate. We have worked hard to bring together this
dream and cannot tolerate Ms Haywire incessant and derogatory
comments.
The Festival past editions have shown the audience, the industry
and the musicians how professional, distinguish and well organized
the festival is. In collaboration with the major labels, production
companies and bands, Kinetik Festival is pleased to bring together
the largest North American electro-Industrial festival.
With this letter, we wish to raise the concern and bring to your
attention this abnormal situation, as some of you may have worked
in collaboration with Ms. Haywire in the past.
In many occasion, Ms Haywise made disparaging comments concerning
the Kinetik Festival and among other, the band Terrorfakt.
Erroneously giving them a Neo-Nazi / white power denominate. She
opened numerous website and posted several comments in order to
gain some visibility and credibility with these disparaging remarks
and trying to affect the festival.
Being officially recognized by the Canadian government and other
governmental institutions, we cannot, under any circumstance,
endorse this form of harassment. We trust that you will take
similar action and no longer work with her on any level.
Jean-Francois Fortin Gadoury
Director Kinetik Productions
jffortin@festival-kinetik.net
Cc : Metropolis records, Out of Lines records, Blackrain records,
Noitekk records, Artoffact Records, Pronoize, Storming the Base,
Music None Stop, DSBP, Neuwerk management, Protain management,
Soman, Blank, Caustic, Leaether Strip, XP8, Ambassador 21, Grendel,
Feindflug, Terrorfakt, Hocico, KMFDM, Kommor Komando, Autoclav 1.1,
FGFC820, Noisex, Alter Der Ruine, Kiew,
*Please feel free to forward this to anyone that may find it
interesting and beneficial.
http://www.metalunderground.com/news/details.cfm?newsid=55976
Rachel Marone aka "Rachel Haywire" aka Rachel Ellen Mendelson
Electric Hellfire Club / Terrorfakt Responds To Nazi Allegations
posted May 18 2010 at 12:44 PM by xFiruath. (1 Comment)
Wilhelm Curse of The Electric Hellfire Club has checked in with the following statement about allegations that Terrofakt band mate Ben DeWalt is involved with Nazism:
"For any of the fans of the EHC who are into rhythmic noise and hard industrial; some of you may have heard the escalating rumor that Ben DeWalt, my friend, co-conspirator, and the founder of Terrofakt, is a Nazi. This could not be further from the truth. Ben has been our close friend for nearly 15 years, and we know that he is anything but a white supremacist. For the last few years I have had the privilege to play with Ben, as a member of Terrorfakt. During this time, I have come to know Ben much better than I ever did during the years that he represented the EHC. He is my close friend, and comrade in arms. He is a proud patriotic American, who firmly believes in the values that this great nation was founded on... among those being that all of us are created equal.
"My time with Terrorfakt has introduced me to many other associated acts and musicians, and to Terrorfakt's fanatically loyal fan base, all being of various ethnic and even religious backgrounds. Accordingly, I can categorically deny that any of these accusations have any merit to them. This smear campaign against Ben is perpetuated by an Industrial music outcast named Rachel Mandelson. She is more 'popularly' known as the idiot behind 'Experiment Haywire.' She is an individual who has failed to garner any success on her own, and has taken to making slanderous and libelous accusations against a much more popular and successful act, in order to gain attention for herself.
"Her entire issue with Terrorfakt stems from Ben's refusal to peddle her merch at a music festival that she gained illegal entry to, thereby denying the performing bands (and promoter) their just compensation. She blames everyone but herself for her failure as a musician, and claiming that Ben has ruined her 'career' because of her Jewish heritage is her way of trying to garner sympathy through portraying herself as a victim, rather that simply a failure. I have long been a believer in the old show business saying of 'There is no such thing as bad press,' and to automatically confirm any rumor told about me (or the EHC) as being true. However, Ben finds the contention of his being a Nazi to be offensive, and clearing his name is of personal importance to him. To that end, I have felt the need to address the issue publicly, and to support my friend. I ask you, our fans, to help put a stop to this rumor, by correcting anyone that you hear repeating it, and to not support Rachel Mandelson or Experiment Haywire in any way."
If you aren't able to do it, why should he? After all, he's the one making a joke and you're the dumbfuck getting offended because you're too stupid to understand it. :)
and also from her own blog:
>
> Experiment Haywire's Blog
> Sign up
> Mar 22, 2009
> Prometheus Burning threatens legal action against me for
"stalking"
> I hate that I need to share this with everyone but I feel that my
> legal safety might be in danger and am making this post to ask for
> advice. I am currently scared out of my mind.
>
> Remember the band that called me a "lonely wannabe poser with no
> musical skill" and a "hypocritical talentless hack" after staging
> public drama with me for publicity? The band that harassed me to
> the point where I actually had to call my sick mother for help? My
> mother was conservative enough to file a DMCA charge against this
> band for posting a private email of mine to the public. While I
did
> not want this private email posted and felt an extreme sense of
> violation I strongly disapproved of my mother's actions regarding
> the DMCA. (an organization which I utterly despise) In the end my
> mother was in critical medical condition and was simply trying to
> get this band to leave me alone- yet when she brought the DMCA
into
> this I was furious.
>
> I recently emailed the band and apologized for the actions of my
> mother. I mentioned that I liked their music and that I would like
> to put the past behind us. I used to be on good terms with this
> band. I was a constant promoter of their music and spun them
> consistently as a DJ in NYC when nobody else had heard of them. We
> had mutual friends and (as far as I saw it) absolutely no reason
to
> perpetuate any conflict between us. I planned to support them on
> tour along with Caustic and The Gothsicles in Atlanta. I figured
> that it would be a great time.
>
> Until they told me the following on a public forum:
>
> "We have saved every email and message you have sent to Nikki. We
> have saved every message, bulletin, etc. you have posted that
> mentions us and we have saved every post you ever made on these
> forums and others that mention us. Your stalker behavior is well
> documented by us and by our lawyer. We have not taken the steps to
> get a PFA against you as of yet, but we have more than enough
> documentation to do so when we feel it necessary." -Prometheus
> Burning
>
> Just wow. I don't appreciate people making false accusations about
> me and I certainly don't appreciate being threatened with a lawyer
> for a crime that I did not commit. Most importantly though: do
they
> have any idea what stalking actually is? As someone who has been
> stalked before (and I'm not just talking about ex-boyfriends
> failing to leave me alone but an actual sociopath making constant
> threats against the lives of me and the people dear to me) I am
> strongly offended by the way this band has used the term
"stalking"
> to refer to my attempt at a peaceful resolution. Stalking is not a
> joke. If you have ever been stalked before you know what it's like
> to beg for your stalker to leave you alone only to be told not to
> further engage him. If you have ever been stalked before you know
> what it's like to walk into a public place in fear of your life.
If
> you have ever been stalked before you know that horrible sinking
> feeling you get when your stalker contacts you. It is not a
> pleasant feeling. (to say the least)
>
> Stalking is not something to fuck around with. Accusing someone of
> stalking is a lot like accusing someone of domestic abuse. If this
> person didn't stalk or abuse you then you are minimizing the
> struggles of thousands of individuals who are stalked and abused.
> Many of these people have emailed me in tears to confide. Yet now
> this band is claiming that I am stalking them. What can I do? I
Why cant she file a report with the police or even the FBI?
Jack of all trades,master of none
That and she apparently knows the person IRL, so the whole idea that he is too good to catch is pretty implausible. It is more likely the stalker is a sock puppet she created to banter with.
Quite true, though in this case throwing kiddy porn in the mix would normally get the police's attention.
Once again, this is not a public service nor a public right. If a private company like kickstarter doesn't or can't or chooses not to support an action which they believe will be ineffective (i.e. unprofitable), then that's the end of the game. There's nothing wrong with that.
As for the conclusion that therefore she cannot growdfund anything, that's just stupid. There are other sites, and she can always roll her own. She's already got more publicity than I've ever had. Boo hoo that this one supplyer won't work for you. Move on.
Ms. Jaeger:
It has come to my attention that Rachel Mendelson aka "Rachel Marone" aka "Rachel Haywire" aka "Transhuman X" may be allowed to use kickstarter again only 2 years after she took $3,000 with a fraudulent kickstarter effort. People are angrily posting on this page even as of a few months ago, and she has no plans to print the CD or to make any of the charitable contribution percentage she promised from this project. Please do not allow her to make any more kickstarter efforts, and defraud more people. Here is the page and the comments from people who never got their CD from her. By kickstarter's own rules, she should be required to return the donations at this point, not start a new fraudulent kickstarter campaign. She is very likely to start a new kickstarter account called 'Rachel Marone', be aware she is abusing kickstarter for financially fraudulent purposes.
Here is the link to the project that never did anything but take money:
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/machinekuntrecords/sanity-is-slavery
where you can see comments of complaint from its backers:
"If you’re a backer of this project, please log in to read this post.
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Erik Roy Tomren on September 26, 2011
so when is this coming out? the hard copy version, not the download.
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Cat on February 24
It's a year after this posting, almost two years after this was funded, and I have yet to receive my hard copy of this album. Very displeased. :/
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Steve Cross on March 15
Is the hard copy ever going to appear. A further update would be nice. I am not very happy!!
Some how modern lawyers are still suing people even though people signed waivers that should have protected them from liability. Simple things like people slipping on ice at an ice rink when there is a sign above that says "slippery"... Then the hot coffee situation where someone sued McDonalds because they burned themselves on hot coffee. It's just stupid. I'm sure kickstarter is worried about liability. That's the only rational reason I can think they're nervous about this... make this girl sign a waiver. Make her parents sign it. Make the f'ing justice system sign it so that it's made very god damn clear that if the girl is stalked and then gang raped by 4chan through kickstarter... it isn't kickstarter's fault.
This extends to a thousand other issues in our society. If you sign a waiver... they're not liable. Period. Want to go hug a wild bear? Sign this waiver. If the bear decapitates you, then that isn't my fault.
Just take some personal responsibility. If this girl isn't worried about being stalked then clearly she either wants to be stalked or isn't afraid. Absolve kickstarter of liability and then have fun with the drooling stalkers.
I've decided to stop wasting my time responding to AC trolls/sockpuppets... so if you want a response from me... login.
http://www.metalunderground.com/news/details.cfm?newsid=55976
Rachel Marone aka "Rachel Haywire" aka Rachel Ellen Mendelson
Electric Hellfire Club / Terrorfakt Responds To Nazi Allegations
posted May 18 2010 at 12:44 PM by xFiruath. (1 Comment)
Wilhelm Curse of The Electric Hellfire Club has checked in with the following statement about allegations that Terrofakt band mate Ben DeWalt is involved with Nazism:
"For any of the fans of the EHC who are into rhythmic noise and hard industrial; some of you may have heard the escalating rumor that Ben DeWalt, my friend, co-conspirator, and the founder of Terrofakt, is a Nazi. This could not be further from the truth. Ben has been our close friend for nearly 15 years, and we know that he is anything but a white supremacist. For the last few years I have had the privilege to play with Ben, as a member of Terrorfakt. During this time, I have come to know Ben much better than I ever did during the years that he represented the EHC. He is my close friend, and comrade in arms. He is a proud patriotic American, who firmly believes in the values that this great nation was founded on... among those being that all of us are created equal.
"My time with Terrorfakt has introduced me to many other associated acts and musicians, and to Terrorfakt's fanatically loyal fan base, all being of various ethnic and even religious backgrounds. Accordingly, I can categorically deny that any of these accusations have any merit to them. This smear campaign against Ben is perpetuated by an Industrial music outcast named Rachel Mandelson. She is more 'popularly' known as the idiot behind 'Experiment Haywire.' She is an individual who has failed to garner any success on her own, and has taken to making slanderous and libelous accusations against a much more popular and successful act, in order to gain attention for herself.
"Her entire issue with Terrorfakt stems from Ben's refusal to peddle her merch at a music festival that she gained illegal entry to, thereby denying the performing bands (and promoter) their just compensation. She blames everyone but herself for her failure as a musician, and claiming that Ben has ruined her 'career' because of her Jewish heritage is her way of trying to garner sympathy through portraying herself as a victim, rather that simply a failure. I have long been a believer in the old show business saying of 'There is no such thing as bad press,' and to automatically confirm any rumor told about me (or the EHC) as being true. However, Ben finds the contention of his being a Nazi to be offensive, and clearing his name is of personal importance to him. To that end, I have felt the need to address the issue publicly, and to support my friend. I ask you, our fans, to help put a stop to this rumor, by correcting anyone that you hear repeating it, and to not support Rachel Mandelson or Experiment Haywire in any way."
Anyone remember that place, and her? Professional victim, constantly engaged with her "attackers", abused everyone who tried to suggest she do otherwise, demanded everyone reorganize their entire community to enshrine her victimhood, and so on and so forth.
After reading Rachel's story, I'm firmly on Kickstarter's side. She gives real victims a bad name.
Someone who doesn't fuck up when massively sending crap like that to hundreds of recipients for a decade? That's inhuman.
Well, 62% of Americans do believe in the Devil, so maybe it is inhuman.
(Of course, 95% of people on the internet for more than 15 minutes believe in drama-queen/attention-whores, and the other 5% are them.)
I'm not sure what to believe. Perhaps no one? I have noticed a pattern here: The most trenchant criticisms are all posted by Anonymous Cowards. GP, who are you? Why should anyone believe anything you say? Why should anyone care?
Could use some real journalism here, uncover the facts. Otherwise, all this is a waste of time.
Intellectual Property is a monopolistic, selfish, and defective concept. It is "tyranny over the mind of man"
If she was entering a restaurant, and someone followed her in, making a big scene to do with her, she does nothing about it, what would you expect the owners to do next time they see her headed their way? Kickstarter is a business, not a charity. 10 years of a digital stalker and she has done nothing about it? It is harassment, she needs to either approach the police, or even collect evidence and sue the stalker. Playing a helpless victim while doing nothing to change the situation is simply an attention grab.
I'm shocked by most of the comments, the hole comment section for this article is a sad textbook-example of victim blaming. Including the famous rationalizations like:
“If she is a victime why didn't she go to the police/authorities?” - Well, RTFA, she went to the police, but they don't have the know-how to get this guy, and the FBI can't be bothered by such a small case.
“She got exposure from this news, she should be happy enough” OR “She is just crying wolf to get the exposure” - No, she just want to (A) be left alone by this guy and (B) have a level playing field with the rest of us, not been discriminated by Kickstarter for been a victim.
“Kickstarter have nothing to do with it, it is her problem” - No, what they are doing is a perfect example of secondary victimization and that makes them guilty. The fact that they are not as bad as the stalker doesn't mean they are not guilty.
That's one big difference here in Canada. Once you file a complaint, it's in police hands. You can NOT drop the charges because you aren't LAYING the charges -- the police do.
Yeah, I go back and forth whether my country (US) has this right or not, though I certainly couldn't call either way "wrong". On one hand, there's such a thing as a one-time flare-up between people (e.g. me and my Dad -- I was a dumb angry teenager, Dad was a then-undiagnosed diabetic with wild sugar-induced mood swings) where someone has crossed the line, actually committing battery, but everyone cooled down before the police were called (thanks, Mom!), and things work out fine. No reason that should end differently if hot heads had prevailed for a few more minutes and the police had to be involved, as long as no serious harm was done, but I guarantee a trial and misdemeanor conviction would have left us estranged to this day, whereas Dad and I now get along fine,
On the other hand, there's a huge problem with the sort of ongoing abusive relationship you discuss, where the cops get called every Saturday for domestic violence, the victim (usually the woman, but it goes the other way occasionally) declines to press charges, and it goes on until it ends -- frequently with the victim dead or in hospital with life-threatening injuries.
I'd be inclined to support a period, perhaps 3 days, in which charges can be dropped, after which it's in police hands, but I don't know enough about the typical timescales in abusive situations to know whether that would really do any good -- I do know that all too often, the victim won't even press charges to begin with.
Calling someone running a crowdsourced project an "attention whore" is kind of missing the point. Tim Schafer is a particularly successful attention whore, but nobody seems to hold it against him.
All i have to do is spam the messages of any kickstarter project i don't like and it will be banned? haha, oh the potential for fun and blackmail!
Kickstarter doesn't accept all projects. It accepts those that are likely to succeed, and will reflect well on itself, and by proxy future projects. If her project is inundated by a stalker, then it doesn't reflect well on Kickstarter or its other projects.
Now, what actions could Kickstarter take to rectify this?
It could assign staff to moderate the project. Her project appears small, in the low three figures. Kickstarter takes only 5%, so their revenue is in the tens of dollars. A dedicated stalker can easily dodge automated blocking and tie up more resources than is financially viable for them to dedicate to her project. Thus, this is not an option.
Kickstarter could decide not to accept pre paid/gift credit cards and thus prevent the stalker from simply buying a new, $10 card each time his account gets banned. Not only would this cost Kickstarter many orders of magnitude more than her project could bring in, it would marginalize millions of people who do not have another way to contribute to the communities that use Kickstarter, many of whom are already vulnerable people with little socioeconomic power. Clearly, this is not an option.
Kickstarter could ban comments, or allow project managers to delete comments. This would stifle the communities involvement with the project, and potentially allow project managers to sweep legitimate problems under the rug. This would diminish the trust the public might be willing to grant other projects. It would be irresponsible to choose this optio Even requiring a credit card and a $1 contribution to commentn.
That leaves the unfortunate final option to decline to host her project until the matter can be resolved. It most certainly is not her fault, but it isn't Kickstarter's either.
No ones stopping her from setting up her own site to raise funding. If she wants to use the kickstarter system she has to obey the TOS.
Never saw a doctorate w/ the name Anonymous Coward on it so prove it with documentation from an accredited school. Good luck, troll.
..have you seen her pictures? I wouldn't fuck her with Steven Root's dick, and Chirs Farley pushing. *blegh*....
There are 2 groups of people you can make fun of on the Internet without fear of attack. The illiterate, and the Amish.
"(originally posted by Rachel Haywire, 2/12/09)
OH GOD, Haywire! She's just plain nuts. She's pretty well known in the industrial music scene and pretty much a known crazy person with delusions of persecution. Anytime she posts something, just back away, avoid eye contact, and keep your hands back where they can't be bitten, unless of course you enjoy big internet cluster fucks of trolling trolls. I'm met her in person at Convergence in NOLA and she seemed ok enough, perhaps no more crazy that some burned out hippy might be, but online, she turns into a full blown manic paranoid.
frell you and your humor white boy
ohh cool captcha is hamlet
If you read up on this at all, a better article title:
"Drama Queen Fraudster banned from Kickstarter."
"The OP" was "An anonymous reader". I.e. Rachel Marone.
More like: if she claims to have been stalked for 10 years, yet has taken no legal action against her stalker, she is clearly not telling the whole story.
I am also a victim of this guy. He harassed me off and on for years. He turned on me after I told him "no" when he asked me to do a favor for him I didn't feel comfortable doing. That was all it took to find myself on his shitlist. While we were "friends" I got to listen to him brag about all the horrible things he'd done to people, mostly women he dated, after they decided to tell him "no" or kick him out of their lives once they realized how crazy he is. He would show me how he was getting so-and-so fired from their job by spoofing emails with child pornography in them to the all@ email aliases of their employers from libraries and hacked DNS servers. He showed me how he made money selling pirated ebooks and sheet music on ebay. And he'd brag about using sockpuppets to build up fake credibility because it's all hearsay on the Internet where the credibility of consensus is only second to hard evidence.
Don't fall for this guy's sockpuppet spam. This is exactly the kind of thing he was doing on Kickstarter, and has done on Reddit, Hackernews, here, Rachel's various blogs, and yes, all the way back to the days of Livejournal being the amazing mecca of social networking.
His name is Jason Christopher Hughes AKA Michael Nath AKA Thylacine AKA antisense is over 40 years old. He's been at this game for a long, long time and has made social engineering an art form.
Most of the posts in here that look like layers of confirmation of "facts" about Rachel are all the same person posting through TOR or I2P. If Slashdot admins were to verify the IPs of most of the other posts attacking Rachel, they'll see a wall of TOR and I2P exit nodes, just as any of us who have checked out the logs of his behavior in the past have been able to see. You let this guy brainwash you into believing all his propaganda against Rachel, and you've just weaponized yourself in his favor. Please do not. Keep an open mind. Use your critical thinking skills. Do not allow the emotional shock value of the propaganda to interfere with your thinking. I know it's hard. It's especially hard because Rachel is a very reactionary individual. She has that rockstar vibe to her, and she doesn't take crap from anyone. That makes her an easy target, clearly, because anytime the "moral high ground" seems a little shaky, it's a vulnerability in her defense against her cyberstalker.
He's been stalking several of us for years. Most of us don't ever talk about him using our typical logins because he'll shit up the administration and our posts until we get banned. He's phenomenally good at turning people against his victims.
Unfortunately it's hard to collect evidence against him. He only attacks maybe 10 or so people at a time. He's never going to become a priority for the FBI or local police because they either have bigger fish to fry or don't understand how to handle him in a way that his behavior can be documented. Making all of this public is a big push for all of us who he's been harassing for over a decade. We're tired of it. We want it to end. We need help.
Not your personal army and all that, sure, but it would be nice if we weren't alone in trying to bring this guy down.
"With so many women being stalking targets this does not seem reasonable to me." Oh that poor, poor woman! We can not stand for this injustice against a woman! I mean, come on, she has a vagina! There must be something we can do!!
You're an idiot and should be kicked in the nuts.
Now there's a project that many of us slashdotters would invest in!
"A government is a body of people usually -- notably -- ungoverned." -Shepherd Book
why does the band Prometheus Burning complain that RACHEL IS STALKING THEM? HOW ABOUT THE MONTREAL KINETIK FESTIVAL, eh?
Electric Hellfire Club / Terrorfakt Responds To Nazi Allegations
posted May 18, 2010 at 12:44 PM by xFiruath. (1 Comment)
Wilhelm Curse of The Electric Hellfire Club has checked in with the following statement about allegations that Terrofakt band mate Ben DeWalt is involved with Nazism:
"For any of the fans of the EHC who are into rhythmic noise and hard industrial; some of you may have heard the escalating rumor that Ben DeWalt, my friend, co-conspirator, and the founder of Terrofakt, is a Nazi. This could not be further from the truth. Ben has been our close friend for nearly 15 years, and we know that he is anything but a white supremacist. For the last few years I have had the privilege to play with Ben, as a member of Terrorfakt. During this time, I have come to know Ben much better than I ever did during the years that he represented the EHC. He is my close friend, and comrade in arms. He is a proud patriotic American, who firmly believes in the values that this great nation was founded on... among those being that all of us are created equal.
"My time with Terrorfakt has introduced me to many other associated acts and musicians, and to Terrorfakt's fanatically loyal fan base, all being of various ethnic and even religious backgrounds. Accordingly, I can categorically deny that any of these accusations have any merit to them. This smear campaign against Ben is perpetuated by an Industrial music outcast named Rachel Mandelson. She is more 'popularly' known as the idiot behind 'Experiment Haywire.' She is an individual who has failed to garner any success on her own, and has taken to making slanderous and libelous accusations against a much more popular and successful act, in order to gain attention for herself.
"Her entire issue with Terrorfakt stems from Ben's refusal to peddle her merch at a music festival that she gained illegal entry to, thereby denying the performing bands (and promoter) their just compensation. She blames everyone but herself for her failure as a musician, and claiming that Ben has ruined her 'career' because of her Jewish heritage is her way of trying to garner sympathy through portraying herself as a victim, rather that simply a failure. I have long been a believer in the old show business saying of 'There is no such thing as bad press,' and to automatically confirm any rumor told about me (or the EHC) as being true. However, Ben finds the contention of his being a Nazi to be offensive, and clearing his name is of personal importance to him. To that end, I have felt the need to address the issue publicly, and to support my friend. I ask you, our fans, to help put a stop to this rumor, by correcting anyone that you hear repeating it, and to not support Rachel Mandelson or Experiment Haywire in any way."
Kent
Below is a repost from Kinetik Productions Inc.:
Kinetik Productions Inc
Montreal (Qc) Canada
NEQ: 1164635469
www.festival-kinetik.net
Object : Rachel Haywire / machineKUNT Records / Experiment Haywire
Montréal, November 29th 2009,
Kinetik Productions wishes to bring to your attention the continual attack from Ms. Haywire against the Kinetik Festival and Kinetik Productions company image. Over the past 3 years, we have asked several websites to remove her harmful and derogative comments concerning the Kinetik Festival and the musical acts present during the festival.
Unfortunately, she had made a personal business to attack the festival and some bands performing during Kinetik festival, without investigating the alleged facts. She tried to put down the festival based on her statements. The se
Cops/FBI won't bother because he's small potatoes. Do you know anyone at the FBI? You should talk to them about this kind of thing.
This works great in "real" life, but it's so much harder to track someone down and prove a pattern of behavior because credibly *establishing identity* is *hard* when you're dealing with someone who works through sockpuppets and anonymizing services. If they can't document the problem, they can't really go after him without a willingness to commit resources to the cause, and really he's only doing this to a few people at a time. Small potatoes = low priority.
As previously pointed out, she has mental problems. My diagnosis: she's schitzophrenic, and stalking herself. Now go and read a proper story.
This explains it: http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=2786853&cid=39688653
"Either it's a false story or kickstarter has a crappy system", TheLink
I concur, going by her website I suspect it's an attempt to drum-up some business.
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Skidborg's "finest moment" trolling, lol (being caught @ it for starters):
Also, now that the people with mod points have moved on to other threads I don't really care if I was caught red handed - by Skidborg (1585365) on Thursday April 14, @05:21PM (#35822350)
LOL, skidmark...
how can that be rated as "informative". There obviously is a bunch of troll brogrammers about.
FFS Slashdot .. who approved this submission ?
The girl is clearly batshit insane so why the feck are you linking straight to her vanity blog ?
I was threatened with braindead, cardiac arrest, a supposed sex tape of me masturbating, my girlfriend was raped, she was 3 years in coma. I know the personwho did it. It is a police officer. I cannot file complaint. 3 of my cars burned down, my house burned down. I was blackmailed by the cop, scared he would reveal the masturbating tape. It costed me my company, over $72,000.- for protection costs a year. Unforyunately another police officer killed his girlfriend here in the supermarket, another cop raped and killed a young girl. In the Netherlands you cannot file complaints against police officers, they are untouchable. I was beaten in the face by the cop, he screamed he would kill me. My mistake? I thought what they do is wrong.
the shit is so outrageous that it might be just her spamming her. really. because otherwise there would be some links about who the guy is, it's just so encyclopedia dramatica style shit as a whole. so, link proofs or gtfo - if you want to be ug that's how you do it, if she knows who he is etc. by now though she probably has a bunch of guys and gals just trolling her, because really that's what you're asking for when you're over analyzing what you are with stupid, stupid new age pseudoscientist terms, transhumanism, human 2.0.. the usual self appointed "i'm member of the newer wave of things and progressed further" fluff - because it is fluff, people have been recycling those basic themes already for so fucking long it's not interesting anymore, like theology in a sense.
I mean, if she was just some chick selling knitted undies or something there that would be different thing, but for now her resume page is a 404. tats are niceish though.
extreme futurist conf... something like that would get trolled by multiple "stalkers" the second someone linked it on any active board - no personal vendettas necessary, that's just what happens. call it modern socio theory or whatever but that's just what happens. eh. and this from a guy who is heavily into near future scifi, tech and even goth electro.
world was created 5 seconds before this post as it is.
none of them were refunded, this is a complete lie and where DID that $3,000 go???????
In physics, there are rare particle interactions which take place when a combination of individually rare things happen. They are called "forbidden" interactions, they aren't truly forbidden, they are just forbidden by the normal physics (e.g. conservation law) which governs most of of the transitions.
It isn't frequent, but because Avogadro's number is so large, these forbidden interactions do occur.
So, is that's what's happening now?
A paranoid drama queen looking for publicity meets sociopath stalker?
Profoundly mentally ill people may encounter one another every once in a while.
We should get the particle detectors out, we may see a jet of high energy stuff. Maybe a Higgs will show up?
neil gaiman is always having to stop eating his bran flakes and go untie some goth bitch from the railroad tracks...
SAVE ME NEIL GAIMAN! SAVE ME!
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@rachel_marone that looked pretty obvious. The only Slashdot person I know is @hemos and he has moved on.
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i think she is gonna bother R L Stine or Stephen King next....
I have given paypal donations to "anonymous proxy" admins (FDC servers) for logs, I have gotten account information from ISP helpdesks and I have helped police file subpoenas to legal departments located in-the-middle-of-nowhere USA. Once, I even traveled to Romania to chat with a hacking crew about the damage that they did and asked them personally to help me repair it (Romanians are really helpful and friendly and it was my pleasure to meet them).
So I read the headline and said to myself "poor girl, ten years! that must mean she has had some very bad help in the past" So I dug a bit to get an idea about what might really be going on. I found the same stuff others here found but for some reason the one that really stood out was this
http://alttherapy.experimenthaywire.net/
"Alt.Therapy is a new (dis)organization for artists, mutants, mentally ill radicals, freaks in trouble, and anyone who is looking for help who does not support the brainwashing industry of mainstream therapy.
At Alt.Therapy we define ourselves as post-sane. We do not want to conform to a central definition of reality. Yet sometimes people like us can get into difficult situations. We need people to talk to who think like we do who have been through similar experiences.
I'm not a licensed therapist and don't offer a traditional cure to your problems but I offer an alternative form of therapy that will help you improve your life. Sessions range from 15 minutes to an hour and are based on your individual needs as a client.
We don't force you to talk about your family history and refuse to ask "how does that make you feel?" Instead we ask the question "what does that make you want to do?" Then we help you do it. You provide us with a description of your main problem and we provide you with a counseling session that will help you change it.
We also offer packages that include a list of bands with similar ideas, a customized playlist related to your life, an introduction to like-minded communities, a list of films that apply to your current situation, and a list of books to read that you will find mentally stimulating.
Package 1: - 15 minute session - $20
Package 2: - 30 minute session - $35
Package 3: - 60 minute session - $60
Add on: Lists of bands, films, like-minded communities, books written by people who think like you do, and a customized playlist related to your life - $20"
So a non-therapist charges $60 to $80 an hour for, what seems to be, non-therapy.
Seems like she is a petty con artist on many small levels and I am guessing this Slashdot article was part of it.
And there ya have it, folks... Rachel anonymously posted this story and she's been lurking it all along, likely posting with multiple sock-puppet accounts. Looks to have a few old-timer accounts, too. Time to start compiling a list of old/new Rachel Marone /. sockpuppets.
Slashdot and Reddit – Pwned by Serial Stalker
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Rachel Marone
4.16.12 rants
I’ve got to say that I have never been this disappointed in the Internet before. Recently I went public about being banned from Kickstarter for being a stalking victim. People on Twitter were extremely supportive of me and helped to get the message out. Kickstarter publicly apologized to me and while they did not email me directly at least they made an effort to set things straight. As for the rest of the Internet I have never seen such an epic fail.
The story was posted to Reddit and for a small period of time I was receiving support there. This is what happened next. My stalker, like he always does, began posting hundreds of defamatory comments about me via his numerous sock puppet accounts. It appears that the majority of people on Reddit were stupid enough to fall for it. He began linking to old sites which he harassed me on, posting my personal information, posting old emails with his fabricated drama, etc.
The same thing happened on Slashdot. I was receiving support until my stalker began his usual harassment campaign against me. Again he linked to old websites that he harassed me on, posted my personal information, posted old emails with his fabricated drama, etc. I always thought that Slashdot was a cut above the rest but apparently I was wrong. People on Slashdot were just as easily pwned. Not only that but the story was marked as “hoax” and “lies.”
Seriously?
At least Hacker News is doing a little better. They appear to have deleted all of his comments. I’m still not sure how people on the Internet are this stupid. Obviously if my stalker was able to spam over 300 comments to Kickstarter he’d be able to do the same thing to Reddit and Slashdot. This seems like common sense to me. Yet somehow I am the one who is crazy. The level of fail here is so epic I am still in shock. Time to go occupy a few new brain cells.
Nice try Mario but your princess is in another castle.
GTFO Slashdot, Rachel, and take your drama story with you.
Lemme see if I get this straight.
Both of you are crazy, prolific trolls who shitstream garbage all over the web in a vain attempt to outtroll the other. You claim that you are being "stalked". I see nothing particularly indicative of being "stalked". Rather, you are a whiny attention whore who is butthurt because you've been trolled and everyone isn't jumping to your rescue. And the reason they're not is because you're just as bad as your supposed "stalker".
Both of you, quite probably, have posted scores of posts under Anonymous Coward or sockpuppet accounts; you clearly submitted this story as an Anonymous Coward, and frankly, as you are both employing the same tactics I see no reason to side with you. You're both trolls and you need to shut up and grow up. Perhaps then you wouldn't be so easily trolled, and perhaps then people might believe that you're somehow in the right. Because all I see are two assclowns and epic lulz all round.
And you will, quite probably, assume that I am your stalker, because I posted this anonymously. Whoop-de-fucking do. I don't give a fuck. Jump to any conclusion you want.
it is all fun and games until someone calls your 82 year old grandmother at 2am and states that they are a police officer and that their grandson is dead... then the frail old woman collapses and has to be hospitalized for 3 days. this happened to my grandmother, and she was never the same afterwards. stonemirror did this to me at the behest of rachel "haywire" "marone" mendelson in 2004.
Ok based on all that, it sounds like YOU are a her cyber stalker! :)
it's so much harder to track someone down and prove a pattern of behavior because credibly *establishing identity* is *hard* when you're dealing with someone who works through sockpuppets and anonymizing services.
So says the sock puppet. You're one of a few brand-new accounts posting crazy shit on this story and no place else. I don't know if you're her or him or if either of you truly exist, but I do know whoever is doing this needs professional help.
Mis-representing one's self as a LEO is a fairly severe crime. And I've completely lost track of who I'm supposed to hate here, so frankly, both of you can go battle it out somewhere else.
a severe crime which was reported too late for justice, as the elderly woman in question BELIEVED the caller for several years ; this while the grandson was not even living in the USA and not in regular contact with any family members. He was in the jungle of Central America, with the nearest telephone a day's trip away, actually.
Like I said, I don't care.
then piss the fuck off, anon coward. ie Shut Yer Pie Hole.
no u. ie no u.
And this is a posting from Jason Christopher Hughes, who's decided to make an appearance in the comments section of this article on The Daily Dot: http://www.dailydot.com/business/kickstarter-cyberstalker-victim-rachel-marone/
Another comment from stalker Jason Christopher Hughes. You can see more of the same in the comments section of this article on The Daily Dot: http://www.dailydot.com/business/kickstarter-cyberstalker-victim-rachel-marone/ This quote is manufactured, and appears nowhere on the web except for places it's been posted as a quote by some sock puppet ID or an "anonymous coward", like Mr. Hughes is right here. Check http://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=victor+cypert+%22resident+computer+programmer%22&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8 and see for yourself.
Gee, I'm surprised you haven't initiated a civil lawsuit against me for intentional infliction of emotional distress. I'm not exactly difficult to find... And surely you wouldn't claim I'd done something like this without having a shred of actual evidence to support it...? Right?
And the above comment was written by Jason Christopher Hughes, in yet another attempt to interfere with the employment of yet another one of his stalking victims.
"My name is Victor T. Cypert. In 2003 - 2004 I worked as the resident computer programmer for the American Federation of Musicians in Hollywood, CA (Local 47.) David "Lefty" Schlesinger stalked, harassed, and otherwise abused me -- going so far as to call my employer in an effort to have me fired and posting my employer's IP address on his then-active LiveJournal.
If you need an affidavit, a sworn statement, or some other document attesting to what transpired between myself and Mr. Schlesinger, I will be more than happy to provide one."
http://www.phoronix.com/forums/showthread.php?t=20559&page=56
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"My name is Victor T. Cypert. In 2003 - 2004 I worked as the resident computer programmer for the American Federation of Musicians in Hollywood, CA (Local 47.) David "Lefty" Schlesinger stalked, harassed, and otherwise abused me -- going so far as to call my employer in an effort to have me fired and posting my employer's IP address on his then-active LiveJournal.
If you need an affidavit, a sworn statement, or some other document attesting to what transpired between myself and Mr. Schlesinger, I will be more than happy to provide one."
Yes, you've said that. Multiple times. Repeating it doesn't make it any more substantive, but if you want to plow on, "like a broken record", go nuts. Oh wait...
Mr. Cypert's affidavit, should it actually make an appearance, won't prove to be useful for anything more than bird-cage lining, as I've said. His manager and the union's HR department, will back up my story, not the version you're attempting to spin here.
In speaking with his manager at the time regarding Mr. Cypert's use of a workplace machine to issue threats of bodily harm—I've never spoke directly to Mr. Cypert—he told me that, other than this incident, Mr. Cypert wasn't a horrible employee, and he asked me whether I would consider letting him keep his job, although he was indeed prepared to fire him if I insisted.
I agreed on the condition that there was absolutely no repetition of anything of the sort, and that neither I, nor anyone related to me, was to hear so much as a squeak out of him in the future. His manager readily agreed.
As I've noted, it seems that things between Mr. Cypert and the union couldn't have come to a terribly positive end, since the position in question doesn't even appear on his resume.
But hey, if he's willing to have all of that dragged out in court in the baffling belief that this will somehow either help you or hurt me, I'm game. Trot out your affidavit, by all means. Where are we trying this case, anyway?
I've still not heard a single word from the Santa Cruz County Sheriff nor the FBI. Any idea what the delay is? Maybe they tried to verify your contact information and discovered it was bogus...?
http://phoronix.com/forums/showthread.php?20559-Does-a-grand-evil-conspiracy-lie-behind-specific-Desktop-Environments/page56
Let's suppose that you had maintained a presence on a domain for a number of years, call it "stonemirror.net".
Let's further suppose that a "troll" (more accurately, an online stalker and harasser) purchases the domain "stonemirror.org" and puts up a pro-NAMBLA web site with your name on it.
That happened to me, and the person who's harassing Rachel Marone — Jason Christopher Hughes aka Michael Rudra Nath — is the person who did it to me.
Suppose that someone set up a Facebook profile impersonating you, and attempted to get your friends and family to add it. Suppose further that he preemptively blocked your real profile, so you could neither see nor report it yourself.
That also happened to me, and Jason Christopher Hughes aka Michael Rudra Nath is also the person who did that.
What's the collective wisdom of Slashdot on dealing with such things?
and David "Lefty" Schlesinger aka "stonemirror" has one hell of a long history of being offensive and harassing to women. Here one of those women, Kathy Sutphen, speaks out. She was stalked so viciously by Lefty that she suffered traumatic effects.
“I’d save the ASCII totem for an occasion just prior to your court
)) )date, in the event that ever actually comes to pass: you’ll need all
)) )the good luck you can scrape together.
)) )
)) )–
)) )Lefty Redux [gYon-Pa] (lefty apple.com), (dns netcom.com)
)) )C:.M:.C:., D:.O:.D:.
))
)) I was utterly shocked by the vicious animosity of these messages. In all
)) honesty, I have find them to be quite intimidating. They have affected my
)) sleep and my appetite. I do not know to what lengths this man will go to
)) for retaliation. I hope that his anger is limited to email and I have not
)) exhibited foolish bravado in posting these. However, I will not participate
)) in his abuse by continuing to allow him to send me these types of messages
)) privately with the thought that his threats of extortion will keep me from
)) sharing. Every abuser needs to be drug into a public forum posthaste. It is
)) only in a public arena that this type of behavior can be halted.
))
)) I hope that others of you that have been subjected to this type of abuse
)) will ignore his threats and make his behavior public.
))
)) Kathy Sutphen”
http://www.waldorfcritics.org/active/archives/WCA9707.html
you are the "SERIAL HARASSER WHO DEFAMES FREE SOFTWARE LUMINARIES" !
http://techrights.org/2010/02/19/defamed-by-access-employee/
Summary: Serial harasser of Free software luminaries may be put on their blacklists, but the verbal abuse continues.
It is understandable that some people wish to defend a pro-software patents strategy, GPL disdain, and companies like Apple and Novell. This is not an excuse for making defamatory claims and saying things like “Richard “My holy duty is to rape women who’ve never used EMACS” Stallman“. There is no rape, virgins can also be male, and it was so obviously a joke. This perp (David Schlesinger aka 'stonemirror') who cried in front of Open Source visionary Bruce Perens because he didn't join his anti-Stallman crusade is just trying to tarnish the GNU brand which is almost synonymous with Richard Stallman and this is just another example of the FSF smears that we wrote about last week.
Ikipr ZapPowApr 16, 2012
I find Rachel's continued use of exploiting the victim role as a means of publicity to be somewhat deplorable. She did feed the troll on her kickstarter, it is their service to ban her from for TOS violations. Seeking sympathy as a means of promotion feels almost as underhanded and sleazy as "stalking" someone. Can the term stalker aptly be applied or is this just a case of on-line harassment? The use of the word may give incorrect context to what is occurring here. Is there such a thing as "cyber-stalking" - if so, we should differentiate between the two in cases like these.
David SchlesingerApr 16, 2012
I'm not here to defend Rachel, but there's nothing anyone can do to deserve the kind of harassment to which she, I and numerous others have been subjected by this malignant nutcase.
I find your short-sighted attitude more than "somewhat" deplorable.
Ikipr ZapPowApr 16, 2012
I do not fail to sympathize with you and others who undergo any harassment, David. I simply see additional underhandedness in how this person has time and time again used the role of victim as a means of self-aggrandizement and promotion. This trivializes the issue at hand.
I'm sorry if you take offense at my wanting more specific labeling of the issue as well. Words have pre-fixed connotations and I do tend to think of things which take place on-line and in the real world as two very different levels of seriousness. The connotation I associate with stalking is of a more serious, real-world nature. I do not mean to offend in pointing these things out.
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David SchlesingerApr 16, 2012
This kind of stalking has serious, real-world consequences for the people who are victims of it. I don't think you really have much of an idea what you're talking about here, which leads me to wonder why you're talking about it.
Here's a site that's been put up by another of this stalker's victims. Take a look, and give it some thought, please.
http://gniklats.com/
Ikipr ZapPowApr 16, 2012
Your sort of "real world" consequence indicate a lack of division between your life and digital presence then sir. I'm not trying to engage you in a negative way here. I will leave you to your opinions, sorry for expressing my own unwelcomed ones for their perceived lack of sensitivity on your part. I try to see both sides of the coin and both parties are serious fucking fail in the issue covered in this article. Sorry bro.
David SchlesingerApr 16, 2012
"Your sort of "real world" consequence indicate a lack of division between your life and digital presence then sir."
I see. So, when this person emails about 900 people associated with the employment of a member of my family in a clear attempt to interfere with that employment, in spite of her actually having no involvement with whatever he imagines his gripe with me to be, and when he further threatens to use Photoshop to put her face onto a pornographic photo and email it to the same 900 people, that indicates a "lack of division" between my life and my "digital presence".
Have I got that correctly, sir? (And please enlighten me about the other "side" you see to that "coin", sir.)
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Ikipr ZapPowApr 16, 2012 (edited)
You put your real name up on socnets and trolls leak over into your real world affairs - yes, that indicates a lack of division between your real world and on-line presence. I'm done here, man. I've had my say already from the get go, you are baiting, seeking engagement and perhaps engaging some of the very behaviors you of harassment you are discouraging here by so readily discounting alternatives to your own convictions. It's cool though man, I don't think poorly of you for this sort of hypocrisy, I'm just not gonna feed the trolls here myself. So best of luck with this crusade/tragedy-turned-promotional-tool for an egotist here. I'll not fan it's silly flames anymore. I should have known it was too sensitive of an issue and would need to be defended with the same careless z
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online harassment by liquidweb.com employees
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I am being harassed by a stalker (Mr. Travis Wichert) who is an employee of Liquidweb.com webhosting ; and he is parking his defamatory, libelous webpage with its bizarre, childish and unfounded accusations against me on the Liquidweb servers! He is harassing me from the Liquidweb offices! I have made Liquidweb staff aware of this situation, and they refuse to take action. I am now harassed by an entire hosting company!
Jason Christopher Hughes