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India Test Fires Long-Range, Nuke-Capable Missile
An anonymous reader writes "India has successfully test fired a long-range, nuke-capable missile. Named after Hindu God of fire 'Agni', the ICBM is capable of hitting targets in China, East Africa and parts of Europe. With a successful launch of the missile, India joins an elite group of nations with long-range weapons. 'The BBC's Andrew North in Delhi says Indian officials deny it, but everyone believes the missile is mainly aimed at deterring China. A spokesman for China's Foreign Ministry, Liu Weimin, said his country was not threatened by the test. ... It was only launched once officials were sure they had the best weather conditions — so this was as much a demonstration as a real test, to show India's rivals that it has this kind of capability.'"
Its a wonderful day in the neighborhood....
Let's just get this straight.
So North Korea, a despot nation with no natural resources and maybe, perhaps, who the hell actually knows, may just have a nuclear weapon but we're not totally sure if they actually work, fire a "missile" and everyone is pissed.
India, a populous and relatively rich nation with a known nuclear capability, which has been to war with it's neighbour who also has a known nuclear capability, fires it's missile and we don't bat an eyelid?
What the fuck?
Some time like 1974 or 1975, China did similar tests. So the gap is, hmmm, let's say 35 years.
There is a spark in every single flame bait point.
The more players in the game of M.A.D., the better.
From TFA, a spokesman for China's Foreign Ministry, Liu Weimin, said "China and India are large developing nations. We are not competitors but partners."
I say bullshit.
It's a huge poverty stricken country. It can't even provide food and clean water adequately (and don't get me started on the filth of their healthcare system). Yet they have enough funds to pay for this stuff. Great work and good priorities India!
Before one of the scientists/engineers involved sells the tech to North Korea and don't say it wouldn't happen how do you think NK got nuclear tech in the 1st place!
Build a Man a Fire, and He'll Be Warm for a Day. Set a Man on Fire, and He'll Be Warm for the Rest of His Life.
India has shown remarkable restraint in dealing with Pakistan.
Respect is earned.
So far, Pakistan and its proxies have spent decades being violent terrorist barbarians and being a nuisance, and are then shocked (SHOCKED! I say...) that the entire world hates their guts.
Pakistan is close to being a failed state.
India, on the other hand, is the world's largest democracy.
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Stop acting like this is fair, the ones who got there first are the ones who decides who has these weapons and who doesn't. This "Oh but we have nukes! why do we get nukes and no one else does?" is old and just shows off your bleeding heart and inability to understand how things work on the world stage. India isn't run by a, like stated above, a batshit leader who is constantly threatening their neighbors. I say more power to them, they can have their rockets.
Excuse me, I didn't get it. Are you talking about India or the USA?
India is a country surrounded by Pakistan, China, and nearby N. Korea, and other countries who are horribly oppressive, violent and aggressive regimes. They are also currently harboring the Tibetan government in exile; which royally pisses China off.
Time will tell if this was a good idea but from a strategic point of view, I have to agree with their decision.
And don't forget - public protests can be the polar opposite of what's said behind closed doors. Especially, when you need to keep amicable relations with all sides.
Um, India to Europe is a bit farther than Normandy to London.
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I like your enthusiasm XD
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North Korea had just signed a agreement not to test weapons – which specifically included not testing long range missiles for “scientific purposes” in exchange for food aid. The ink was not even dry when they 1. launched the missiles and 2. said there would be dire repercussions if the U.S. did not deliver on the food aid.
The rationality and stability of the North Korea regime is very different then that of India.
Because India isn't still technically in a state of war with the US (the Korean War never had a peace treaty, only an armistice, so it is still technically in a state of war), they haven't threatened to destroy the US, they aren't lead by a psychotic megalomaniac who might actually use nuclear weapons, and the missile can only reach to somewhere in China, which India is far more likely to ever go to war with than with the US. In other words, because the US has no real reason to care if India gets a long range missile.
"None can love freedom heartily, but good men; the rest love not freedom, but license." --John Milton
Hmm, the same can be said about parts of China and the USA too...
Excuse me, but please get off my Pennisetum Clandestinum, eh!
Absolutely good work on their priorities.
Let India get technology for balistic flights, nuclear weapons, and (hopefully) set up a permanent colony on the moon.
Knowledge should be shared, and India is a relatively stable democracy. Why not them?
(If they spent all their money feeding the poor, they wouldn't have a major worldwide tech center in Bangalore.)
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I watch China tv on free satellite once in a while, CCTV4 English, and find it amusing when they refer to the 'Liberation of Tibet' - Liberation? From What? The iron fisted oppressive dictatorial rule of the Dalai Lama ???
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I have read this bullshit before. India had a GDP of 1.73 trillion dollars last year, of this it spend 36 billion on R&D including this one. So you are saying its wrong to spend less than 2 cents of every dollar you make on protecting yourself. Not only that, this tech also is related to satellite launch market, which is quite lucrative. India also launches and makes money on that.
So don't buy your LED TV, smartphone, Laptop until you pay off your mortgage, that is wrong priorities by your logic. Furthermore, dare you get a gun or a security system in your house until your mortgage and debt are paid off.
What rubbish!
In NK military parades, intermingled with the goosestepping infantry, you will find tanks with messages scrawled across the front along the lines of 'we will crush the oppressive american dogs'. Meanwhile most of the country starves waiting for food aid the US and others provide, while the leaders sit around fucking whores and ordering the deaths of anyone who dare question their authority. Sure, India is a bit of a shithole, but they aren't comparable at all.
India is not what is shown in Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom, we don't eat monkey brains
Aigh! I've been looking forward to Indian monkey brains my whole life and now you go and let me down!
They can thank about a hundred years of British rule for driving them in to poverty. India was among the wealthiest countries on earth until the British showed up and proceeded to siphon trillions of dollars (in today's terms) of raw wealth like gold, precious metals, and gems, from them. Want to see a small example of India's former wealth? Look no further than the crown that sat upon the late Queen Elizabeth's head. The world would look totally different today if Britain wasn't able to steal from India to help get them through two world wars.
India's continued investment to prove that they can keep up with powerful western nations will only help prop up their nation as a whole, and help lift all out of poverty over time. Count the poor on the streets of Bangalore (a major IT hub), and compare it with other Indian cities that haven't see the same level of investment, like Calcutta, and you'll see what first hand what it can do.
"False hope is why we'll never run out of natural resources!" - Lewis Black
Have you ever been to India?
Countering existential threat = "ridiculous pissing contest"?
Well, I suppose Cold War was essentially a "ridiculous pissing contest" as well in a hindsight. Didn't stop it from almost wiping humanity from face of a planet a couple of times.
it is not the governments job to feed you. you are responsible for yourself.
Well, the NPT itself is a carte blanche to US, USSR, UK, France, and China. The NPT gives carte blanche to all nuclear powers prior to 1969 and India tested in 1974 and many /signed/ the NPT in 1992, like China and France. That said, like any legal document the NPT has loopholes, or at least ambiguous wording, and just like the wealthiest lawyer wins, the wealthiest country wins. The U.S. decided to re-interpret the NPT from "not collaborating with nations outside the NPT on nuclear matters" with "not collaborating with nations outside the NPT on /military/ nuclear matters" and gave a green-light for selling nuclear fuel and technology to the civilian sector in India (which consequently frees up India's domestic nuclear resources for military use if they can import nuclear fuel and tech for civilian use). And once the U.S. gave that interpretation, Russia, France, and soon Canada and Australia will also adopt that interpretation and begin exporting nuclear fuel and tech to India for civilian use. Australia and Canada are big since together they have 80% of the world's uranium deposits.
In the end, it's all big chess game. What was the point of the NPT? Choices like "world peace" and such are nice for elementary school kids, but the reality is that the NPT like everything else is done to win, and in this case to maintain status quo for the major powers so they remain major powers. Then why be flexible and allow India? Because rigid structures are more prone to break than flexible structures. India became the 3rd largest economy ahead of Japan this year on purchasing power and by 2050 both the economies of China and India will independently surpass the U.S., and combined surpass the U.S plus Europe. Moreover, the U.S. doesn't see any long-term conflict with India, and in fact sees India as an ally which has a democracy, a liberal society, and a focus on business and economy rather than military. While India has nuclear and missile programs, its military budget is tiny, at only 2.7% of GDP, compared with 2.6% for England, 3.9% for Russia, 4.7% for the U.S. and 10.4% for Saudi Arabia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_military_expenditures and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Military_expenditure_by_GDP_2008.png
All that said, it makes sense to slowly induct India into the status quo than risk a change in the global order. Every exclusive club has to occasionally induct new members to keep from turning irrelevant. That said, while a country club may accept a rich black man with the changing of the times, it's not a free-for-all where it accepts a homeless man. So the nuclear status quo will
Have you ever been to Baltimore?
We are not poor, some may be poor. Stop telling that Indians are poor
340 Million Indians live in extreme poverty. There's a decent percent of population that doesn't live in extreme poverty but ignoring them doesn't help (or fool) anybody.
We have largest gold in reserve
Actually you still have to catch up to Germany, but this will serve you well in the future. At least the people who don't die of malnutrition in the meantime.
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it is not the governments job to feed you. you are responsible for yourself.
Some of us also think we're responsible for our fellow man. When the government takes money from the people to build weapons they don't need, that money is no longer available to either feed the poor directly or create jobs or infrastructure for them to feed themselves.
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Because India is a democratic country (for the most part) which has no intentions of using such a delivery system to unilaterally attack its neighbors. Anyone with any knowledge of the region can figure out pretty fast that the development of ICBMs is a message straight at Beijing, which India still has unresolved territorial disputes with.
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Has India actually ever been the aggressor in wars w/ Pakistan? Nope, except for arguably in 1971 when they interceded on one side's behalf in the Pakistani civil war that resultated in millions of refugees crossing the border in the former East Pakistan.
There were and remain solid reasons to remain in good stead with India. It's the country that's going to keep the schizophrenic state, Pakistan, in line and is also the only substantial military and economic competitor to China in the region. As well, there is over a half a century of reasonablly good relations between the two countries.
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There's no denying India has a long way to go, but those who follow her history know that she has come a long way. Instead of turning into basket cases like Pakistan and Bangladesh, India has maintained a civil, democratic government even in the face of substantial hardship. Unlike so many other of the former British possessions India has not turned into a basket case, and has steadily been improving.
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Why do you think Iran (a country which has not launched an offensive war in a very long time) does not have the right to defend themselves against The US and Israel (two countries with hardons for invading other countries and do so on a regular basis without even bothering to manufacture a credible pretense, especially muslim countries)
Snowden and Manning are heroes.
newspapers reported that america redoubled its position against nuclear proliferation across the globe. A swift and decisively negative condemnation was issued from the global superpower.
directed toward iran.
Good people go to bed earlier.
Not to mention that the US and Israel have been threatening to invade Iran for the last 20 years
Snowden and Manning are heroes.
you are wrong. get your hand out of my pocket. I have a wife and children to take care of, those *are* my responsibility. parasites and thieves who think I owe them money can die.
Because we're trading partners...
You know, I've always wondered why (in the original series at least) there seemed to be few, if any Indians or Chinese for that matter.
Then I remembered a line that Spock once said that went something like "the 15 million dead from WWI, the 60 million in WWII or the 600 million in WWIII". (He was talking about the stupidity of mankind after Kirk's boasting).
Then the movie "Star Trek: First Contact" came out which was supposedly set in North America after a big war(?) had impoverished the populace but hadn't reduced the country to radioactive cinders.
I never read any of the "official" (or unofficial) histories but I was wondering; was a nuclear war supposed to have taken place, not between the U.S. and USSR but in Asia? Between India and China perhaps?
(I'm glad to have gone to see the Taj Mahal last year; I've always thought that if Pakistan and India went to all out war, it would be the first to go.)
Ok, ok I realize that probably the real reason for the dearth of these nationalities was probably due to the script choices of Gene Roddenberry or some casting decisions but I was wondering if there was any justification after the fact. Anyway, if so I hope life DOESN'T follow art!
No, I meant trillions. It was over two billion British pounds of raw wealth goods before the 1920's, cumulative over 150+ years, with a lot of the wealth drain coming early on, which works out to well over a trillion dollars if you normalize over that period and adjust for inflation. And that's just for trade deficit to Britain for raw goods and precious metals. It does not include the fact that up to 40% of India's entire budget was spent on their military, which was under British control at the time, and was "the backbone of the power of the British empire". Yes, Britain did some good things in India, but it was a huge net loss for them. You can start reading about it here, and work your way out from there. An AC using a term like "utter rubbish".. heh... I don't know many people outside the UK who use terms like that ;-)
"False hope is why we'll never run out of natural resources!" - Lewis Black
True, but ICBMs don't mind. That is why they are called Inter-Continental Ballistic Missiles.
Nae king! Nae laird! Nae yurrupiean pressedent! We willna be fooled again!
you are wrong
No, you have poor reading comprehension. Try again.
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Actually, the U.S. does care and would wish India would )&)(*^%$ stop it. The administration isn't saying that in public for probably trade reasons.
The reason the U.S. does care is because of missile and nuclear technology proliferation, and the fact that those crazy Pakistanis will now feel their manhood has been threatened and will attempt to build a bigger missile and similarly weaponize it with nuclear naughtiness. And the Pakistanis are not sheepish about spreading the technology around especially now that after their 67th or so year of mismanagement, the country is poor simply because they couldn't stand to live in peace with the Indians. Call it the Islam Tax.
*COUGH*outsourcing*COUGH*
Upward mobility is a slippery slope - the higher you climb the more you show your ass.
What makes you think the Pakistanis are so well-adjusted that they see the situation as you do. By all accounts, they are not. Just look at the amount of their military is positioned to repel the Indian invasion they just know is coming because they believe India wants access to the untold...well...something but it isn't riches, of Pakistan.
Yes, and that's why a comparison is inaccurate, this is no more a V2 than the Saturn V or the minuteman is a V2, it's an ICBM.
There are 4 boxes to use in the defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, ammo. Use in that order. Starting now.
Detroitistan?
Have gnu, will travel.
I don't want them to have nukes, but we shouldn't be telling a nation what they can and can not do within there own border.
TO my ind, the smart response to the Iranian claiming the only want it for power would be to volunteer to give/sell then what they need for thorium 4g reactors.
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cpu6502 is clearly one of the few Iranian government officials that still has full internet access. For all we know cpu6502 could in fact be Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.
You have no evidence for the claims of helping those countries build nuclear bombs. That's abject bullshit. The scary thing is you probably think it's true.
There's no evidence they're building nukes, and they are most definitely allowed to develop nuclear power. They admit the UN nuclear inspectors, and show them whatever they want to see. I have no idea where you get your information, but it sure as shit isn't reality.
AGNI means fire in many Indian languages. The word also refers to the god of fire "Agni". Slashdot description "Named after Hindu God of fire Agni" - is misleading and insinuates some type of religious weaponry. It is like saying Saree is a Hindu dress...Saree is an Indian dress.
Hinduism is more of a way of life than a religion. And India has the largest number of Muslims after Indonesia. The 2% of Christians will be more than 20 million - much more than many European nations. This plurality one should not forget.
In fact the chief scientist of AGNI mission - Tessy Thomas - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tessy_Thomas - is from my state Kerala. She is a Christian and she named her son Tejas - a Hindu name. I am a Christian, but my name is Hindu.
Try to understand the complexity...generalizing a complex country is the basic mistake Western journalists make about India.
Tat Tvam Asi
Yes yes nuke the Jews you make my point better than I ever could. Thanks.
The goal of the NPT is to eliminate nuclear weapons. That makes abrogating it a problem.
Doesn't hurt relations to be a country that can keep its word rather than breaking it. The opposite is usually the case. There is no reason to trust the US on non-proliferation now.
2. Or Start a business with that money, while conveniently ignoring things like business risk, ROI analyses, opportunity costs, and expecting to immediately reach breakeven point in your business, all while the magic unicorn feeds your family, so your family can be rich forever.
FTFY.
There are a huge number of yeast infections in this county. Probably because we're downriver from the bread factory.
Normally I would take this opportunity to correct your use of schizophrenic. Most people use schizophrenic to describe a state of having multiple personalties (this is actually dissociative identity disorder). Schizophrenia is the one marked by irrational actions, poor social interaction and the hearing of voices.
After a moment though, I realized that schizophrenic describes Pakistan pretty well!
Yes and compared to most of the world, Baltimore feeds and waters the vast majority of our population. OTOH, in India, you will find that most infant death is from diarrhea caused by unsanitary water. Likewise, you have ppl eating their own fecal matter just because they are so hungry. In NK and even in India, they strip the bark from trees to make soups so as to put something in their stomach. So, what issues do you see similar in USA?
Or are you just an asshole that has never been outside of the west and have absolutely NO idea of how bad things really can get?
I have no idea who you think "Leftists" are, but I hazard a guess that you pulled the definition from your ass.
I hadn't heard about those other nations and bomb building.
I do know collaboration on rocket technology between Iran and North Korea hasn't been much of a secret since the 90's. They issue press statements about it, including one last week. I also seem to remember reading that Iran's medium [Israel] range rocket tech originally came from North Korea.
But given Iran's precarious position, I'd think that nuclear tech sharing between the two would be kept pretty well hushed.
"India has successfully test fired a long-range, nuke-capable missile. Named after Hindu God of fire 'Agni',
Why does this worry me?
...who is getting tired of everyone wanting/having to have nukes, or the capability of launching nuclear payloads? Did nobody learn from the cold war?
This 'long range missile' was designed with SUBMARINE LAUNCH CAPABILITY IN MIND.
Does India have working Submarines?
Then the US is a target.
Still waiting on Serviscope_minor to wake up to fucking reality and realize that Jessica Price isn't going to fuck him.
"Iran is no threat? The country where they all come together and shout "Death to America" every single day? For over thirty years and counting? "
I heartily point you out to some old Nat'l Geo magazines, where IRANS THEN-LEADER was extolling their wonderful nuclear power program in advertisements....
And the USA was SUPPORTING IT.
Still waiting on Serviscope_minor to wake up to fucking reality and realize that Jessica Price isn't going to fuck him.
"For all we know cpu6502 could in fact be Mahmoud Ahmadinejad."
But there are no gays in Iran!
Still waiting on Serviscope_minor to wake up to fucking reality and realize that Jessica Price isn't going to fuck him.
When did Obama and/or Romney say they want to bomb Iran? Looking for an actual quote here.
You get a B+ for good effort as well. Kiss noise.
Nice sentiment. Too bad it has been proven time and time again that it only works for those who are wealthy enough to hide behind walled gardens and personal security while the rest of society goes to hell.
I for one am glad to live in a nation where even if my neighbor is the most useless sack of shit ever, his children won't have to go out and steal from my children but will instead have access to education and healthcare so as to be able to carve out a life for themselves.
People replying to my sig annoy me. That's why I change it all the time.
The country where they all come together and shout "Death to America" every single day? For over thirty years and counting?
For the same reason they shout "Death to Taxes"...and "Death to Traffic"
Overreaction is far worse than underaction. Enjoy your little World War; I'll be hiding waiting for you all to blow yourself to kingdom come, so me and my offspring can start picking up the pieces.
Iran is no threat? The country where they all come together and shout "Death to America" every single day?
Indeed. Look at the huge death toll all this shouting has caused all across the United States. The shouting must be stopped!!!1!
"Convictions are more dangerous enemies of truth than lies."
And India became weakly chummy with the USSR solely to upgrade it's military on the cheap. Once they had done so, they asked the Russian military trainers/techs to leave.
The US had offered our stuff, but it was too expensive for India, that's why the turned to Russia. Out of sheer spite, the US became chummy with Pakistan. Stupid Stupid Stupid. I'd rather the US was chummy with India over Pakistan any day of the week, and twice on sundays.
If by that you mean horribly horribly corrupt, then yes you are correct.
Oh well it has worked for the US so far I suppose. I guess it isn't in the megawealthy corporate thieves best interest to have a nuclear war either...
Don't worry about it, its just for launching satellites!
They did try to surrender peacefully, sort of, however it was not agreed to. They sued for conditional surrender, which would keep the Emperor as the figurehead leader of Japan. The US wanted an unconditional surrender, politically they could accept nothing less. I think the bombs convinced the Emperor that he would be the leader of ashes if they didn't relent (however even after bomb #1 they refused).
India has no such agreement.
India unilaterally declared that it will not export any ballistic missile technology despite not being a member of the MTCR
This 'long range missile' was designed with SUBMARINE LAUNCH CAPABILITY IN MIND.
Does India have working Submarines?
Then the US is a target.
The Agni is a land-based missile and is expected to be launched from rail-based vehicles. The sub-launched missiles are the Sagarika (700 km range and tested successfully but not yet in service) and the K-4 (3500 km range which is under development and hasn't had any flight tests as yet)
India does not have any ballistic missile submarines (SSBNs) in service yet. The first one - the Arihant was launched last year and is undergoing tests. All other submarines are either SSKs or SSNs
Uh, okay, this is some bullshit.
North Korea is a piece of shit, granted, and they don't have any realistic purpose for an orbiting satellite, so their recent (failed) launch test was more than likely a cover for ICBM capabilities and nobody on Earth besides Jong-Il and maybe China wants North Korea to have an ICBM.
But we can't just (rightly) condemn the shit out of North Korea for their launch and then just go "ooohh, aahhh, how Leet tis this venture today, ooohh, silver spoon up my ass with a stick of butter, aahhh."
"Stratigraphically the origin of agriculture and thermonuclear destruction will appear essentially simultaneous" -- Lee
I'm going to go way out on a limb and predict that he will leave office either in January of 2013 or 2017
Uhh. Given the two-term limit, I'd say that's a fairly safe bet...
... and every combat rifle designed by every Western country worked perfectly from the first attempt right?
* XM29 OICW (USA)
* XM8 (USA)
* Steyr ACR (Austria)
* H&K G11 (Germany)
* Armtech C30R (Austria)
Every manufacturer has to go through a learning curve before the products can compete against the best of the world. The only way to fail is to not try at all.
Oh, come on, yes you dooooo.... you all eat monkey brains and human hearts all the time. You all live in either deserts or in jungle mudpits, or temples and treasure-laden skyscrapers. You speak English with English accents and maintain archaic English terms like "by jove". Somewhere in your country is an ancient Masonic cult guarding a substantial amount of gold, and somewhere else in your country is an ancient Kali-worshipping cult that sends people to the lava. Just admit it.
"Stratigraphically the origin of agriculture and thermonuclear destruction will appear essentially simultaneous" -- Lee
And don't beg for money for food and medicine etc when you've pissed it all away on nuclear weapons and long distance rockets that you're never going to use. If any of these shitty little countries who've scraped together enough money for a handful of nuclear weapons ever uses them they're going to get every single city destroyed by the end of the same day so what's the point?
Time to outsource our WMDs to India!!
Rule #1: Nuclear weapons for democracies only.
Rule #2: Fast learn rule #1.
Unfortunately there's not much that can be done about non-democracies that already have nukes, but that should be the general rule. I have zero concern about the arsenals of India, or France, or the UK. It would have been fine with me if post-apartheid South Africa had kept theirs. I wouldn't bat an eye if, say, Sweden or Taiwan or Chile decided to develop some. North Korea and Iran are in a completely-different category.
Yes, I realize this is a missile we're talking about, but the reason we're talking about them is that they can carry warheads.
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Because we're trading partners...
"If goods don't cross borders, armies will."
"The Greens lynched a hacker in Chicago. Last month, but I think the body's still hanging from the old Water Tower."
Why don't you move to Somalia?
Why can't you do your own research You'll just try to discredit this anyway.
I didn't realize India required much foreign aid.
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progress happens in every field parallely. its a whole fucking country. do you think we need to work on only one thing at a time? because that would be stupid.
Wealth is the gift that keeps on giving.
statement by our finance minister over the recent debate in uk about giving aid to india:
https://www.google.co.in/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CCcQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.thesun.co.uk%2Fsol%2Fhomepage%2Fnews%2Fpolitics%2F4109514%2FIndia-minister-Brit-aid-is-peanuts.html&ei=7TeST-PpOciJrAeYpMz6BA&usg=AFQjCNGwT57CQFFkcfW_aoLZw8Y8YGQ9zA&sig2=jTRp3ibnSFuybvqvUmqTSw
Wealth is the gift that keeps on giving.
India has no such agreement.
India unilaterally declared that it will not export any ballistic missile technology despite not being a member of the MTCR
And Pakistan said it would not export nuclear weapon technology.
http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/fire_in_anger
"Fire in anger" is a military term that uses the word 'anger' non-literally.
1 is the standard argument why using the A-bombs made sense. (along with deterring Russia and the fact that we were leveling cities conventionally anyway)
2 is new to me.
3 is an example of WWII Japan's suicidal stubbornness.
Yeah, I can see how the nuke decision made sense at least at the time.
I listen to both RIAA and non-RIAA stuff if I like the music, tangential business/politics nonwithstanding.
Either threaten India with total nuclear destruction or STFU about North Korea and Iran.
Privacy is terrorism.
Anti-Pakistan is a cheap tool/trick used by Forward caste to protect/promote their hegemony over BC/SC/ST/Minorities in India.
Casteism
Israel's Jericho missile range is 11,500 km
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jericho_missile
Casteism
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chola_Dynasty
Casteism
Portuguese/French/British "created" India in 1505 by integrating 500+ Independent Kingdoms aka Princely States.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_Indian_history
Casteism
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_Peace_Index
Casteism
You need to RTFA some more. What I stated is explicitly stated in TFA.
Catch up on weapons tech with me, now. I'm already playing with 10kW lasers. Where are you, sonny?
Still waiting on Serviscope_minor to wake up to fucking reality and realize that Jessica Price isn't going to fuck him.
Your "research" doesn't say what you claim it says.
"I will not take military action off the table" is an entirely different sentence than "I want to bomb Iran". Try to understand what people are saying and stop projecting your own fanciful views onto the situation.
I don't see the article stating that the Agni was designed with submarine-launch capabilities anywhere. Wanna point it out to me?
"The present variant of the Agni-V will likely lead to spin-off Submarine-Launched Ballistic Missiles (SLBM) for India’s Ballistic Missile Submarines (SBBN)."
TFS changed TFA link.
Still waiting on Serviscope_minor to wake up to fucking reality and realize that Jessica Price isn't going to fuck him.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communal_Award
Casteism