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Holy iPad Slayer! Company Releases World's First Christian Tablet

Velcroman1 writes "Steve Jobs worshippers need not apply. But if you're looking to get in God's good graces, or you're simply in the market for a family-friendly tablet, you may want to check out Family Christian's Edifi. Billed as the world's first Christian tablet, its genesis came with the inevitable intersection of technology and religion, according to Brian Honorable, a technology supervisor at Family Christian, the group that sells the tablet. 'We wanted to be able to offer our customers the ability to use our Holy Bible application, which has 27 different English translations of the Bible,' Honorable said."

326 comments

  1. 0_0 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    As the kids say nowadays: What is this, I don't even....

    1. Re:0_0 by Jeremiah+Cornelius · · Score: 5, Funny

      It has flash, and will show you porn - but only hetero, in the missionary position.

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    2. Re:0_0 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Did you see the pussy.... cat...? Wow..!

    3. Re:0_0 by Penguinisto · · Score: 4, Insightful

      As a man who considers himself Christian, I'm saying the same damned thing.

      Chalk it up to a scam angle used to push out crap tablets.

      (besides, if you want a bible on an iPad that bad, well: go get one - there's like a bajillion of them in there!)

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    4. Re:0_0 by digitig · · Score: 2

      I can see a big advantage to this: if it's been baptized by total immersion then I needn't worry about dropping it in the bath!

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    5. Re:0_0 by Opportunist · · Score: 4, Funny

      Not if you take your bath in holy water, because your ordinary secular water will probably damage its holy spirit. You can easily tell, if it starts smoking, that's the holy spirit escaping and it's a good thing it won't work anymore because it's not blessed anymore.

      Of course you got warranty, though, you can claim it in the afterlife.

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    6. Re:0_0 by Slugster · · Score: 2

      ... Chalk it up to a scam angle used to push out crap tablets. ...

      Speaking of pushing crap, I have noticed something odd over the years:
      Christianity and White Supremacists both have the same problem of attracting youth, and both Christian and White Supremacist music generally sucks.

      On the Christian side you could say Sam Phillips and Jars of Clay weren't bad, but Sam Phillips 'left' Christian music before her biggest albums.
      ,,,
      And on the White Supremacist side, there's,,,, ? Anyone? I don't know any, except maybe that David Allen Coe 2-album weirdness.

      (If there is any other genuinely talented acts of either genre, feel free to mention them)

    7. Re:0_0 by __aasehi2499 · · Score: 1

      There is lots, IMHO, check here for some streaming feeds of actual radio stations that are available in a few states.

    8. Re:0_0 by Dr+Herbert+West · · Score: 1

      The only white power rock band I can think of off the top of my head is Skrewdriver-- generic 80s thrash rock, kind of reminds me of the Exploited.

      There's some skinhead ska bands out there if you look... I could never figure out how the whole reggae>rocksteady>ska thing happened in regards to the skins, since the roots of the music are from Jamaica. People are weird.

    9. Re:0_0 by spauldo · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I used to listen to some christian rock when I was a kid.

      There was some good stuff out there. Whitecross had a couple albums I really liked - they fit into the glam rock scene that was popular before the grunge bus ran everyone over. Petra had some good stuff if you like keyboard-heavy REO Speedwagon type stuff. Mortification was a christian band, although I could never make out the lyrics - growling death metal wasn't my thing. A lot of people liked Stryper, but I never got into them. There was more, but it's been twenty years.

      My parents bought me a DC Talk CD once, but since I wasn't into rap I can't really comment on the quality. Kinda Run-DMCish, IIRC, but I'm no expert.

      There's a christian station in our town, and it plays "comtemporary christian" music. Easy listening type stuff, generally. I couldn't stand it then, and I can't stand it now.

      I imagine there's still a market for christian rock groups, and if nothing's changed, there's probably some good stuff out there. It's a good niche for the right group. You probably won't find any Jimi Hendrixes or Randy Rhoads in there, but you might find a Joe Perry or a Kip Winger.

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    10. Re:0_0 by jpate · · Score: 1

      it's a clever troll to get us to load up faux news >_<

    11. Re:0_0 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I always assumed DAC's album was an exercise in irony, much like his song "Longhaired Redneck":

      And they tell me I look like Merle Haggard, and sound a lot like David Allen Coe

    12. Re:0_0 by petsounds · · Score: 4, Informative

      The skinhead culture started in the early 60s, when reggae and rocksteady were big in Britain. For whatever reason, the culture adopted the music and the style and fused it with their working class fashion. At the time, there was nothing inherently racist about skinheads. That happened in the 70s and early 80s, mostly fueled by racist ideas of foreigners stealing jobs in what was a depressed economy. It was this racist form of skinhead that was imported into the U.S. Most people in the US only equate the term with white supremacists.

      By the way, the British film This Is England does a pretty great job of covering the early 80s skinhead scene, and is just a really good film in general.

    13. Re:0_0 by flyneye · · Score: 1

      Blitz is a nice example of skinner jazz. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DgMWyQtucyc
      Check the sidebar for other skinner bands of varying philosophies and alliances.

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    14. Re:0_0 by LeanSystems · · Score: 1

      E-Roc
      Listen to the G.O.D.

      I have since escaped from my Christian indoctrination, but this was a relaly cool album when I was 12.

    15. Re:0_0 by Mabhatter · · Score: 3, Funny

      And only properly married, monogamous couples.

    16. Re:0_0 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And they better be married!

      Ah, and no condoms

    17. Re:0_0 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Chalk it up to a scam angle.

      Well, christians are the foremost experts on scams after all. Who better to swindle people out of their money?

    18. Re:0_0 by Mabhatter · · Score: 2

      There is a large movement that everything in the world is the boggeyman or Satan in disguise. So it's only safe to buy stuff if you can't be tempted by bad things. This company is a large Christian book seller and publisher, just catering to their market.

      The people that would buy this wouldn't set foot in Barnes and Noble anyway because the have all sorts of "unholy" books there, even books about SEX. They certianly wouldn't be going to Amazon (on their 56k dial-up).

    19. Re:0_0 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      you forgot with the lights out Jhary ;)

    20. Re:0_0 by drkstr1 · · Score: 1

      Insane Clown Possy? (I kid i kid). But seriously, i remember all the jugulos in high school being totally bummed when they put out a Christian album. I found it HILARIOUS.

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    21. Re:0_0 by mjwx · · Score: 1

      By the way, the British film This Is England does a pretty great job of covering the early 80s skinhead scene, and is just a really good film in general.

      Same with the Australian Film, Romper Stomper. Displaying the same racist culture in Oz, also a look at Russell Crowe before he started throwing phones at hotel receptionists.

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    22. Re:0_0 by Joce640k · · Score: 1

      As a man who considers himself Christian

      As a man who considers himself Christian, did you notice that God/Moses really messed up Stone Tablets 2.0 - check it out

      Note: The only place The Bible says "...the Ten Commandments" is in Exodus 34:28 so I'm guessing those are the real commandments. The ones the Christians keep quoting were just a red herring to keep well meaning people out of Heaven.

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    23. Re:0_0 by Nyder · · Score: 1

      ..

      By the way, the British film This Is England does a pretty great job of covering the early 80s skinhead scene, and is just a really good film in general.

      yep, great flick.

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    24. Re:0_0 by Diss+Champ · · Score: 2

      Most don't fit into the easy listening category, and are worth checking out as well done christian music in their various styles:

      Daniel Amos/DA, The Lost Dogs, The Choir, The 77s/Seventy-Sevens, Rez/Ressurection Band, Glass Harp, early Sixpence None The Richer

      Because they did a good job artistically (IMHO) they didn't achieve the # mentions of Jesus per song quota to get as much radio play as many of artists that wound up defining the genre for most people.

      Note that in DA's case, they change musical styles (well) with the times, so pick an album from a time period you are happy with.

    25. Re:0_0 by SirSlud · · Score: 2

      I'm not Christian, but Take 6 is an unabashedly Christian group that also happens to be a very critically acclaimed (10 Grammys) and are pretty fantastic even to my sinful atheist ears: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kcg9OV8ZVuI&feature=related

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    26. Re:0_0 by mcgrew · · Score: 1

      Seconded. The first thing I thought when I saw this was "oh, for Crrist's sake, what's wrong with people?" Indeed, it's a scam and a poorly disguised one at that. I hope the people selling this thing all go bankrupt.

    27. Re:0_0 by omnichad · · Score: 2

      Looking at your list, I would guess you know where I'm talking about if I said my hometown was Bushnell, IL.

    28. Re:0_0 by Diss+Champ · · Score: 2

      Some highlights I caught this year:

      77s & The Violet Burning had great sets

      Steve Taylor screening Blue Like Jazz and doing a Q&A.

      The Choir doing all of Chase The Kangaroo for the very last show

      I'm going to miss that place.

    29. Re:0_0 by omnichad · · Score: 1

      And I missed it all. I don't live there anymore, but my parents do. Before I found out it was the last one, I'd already made plans to visit some of my wife's family in Texas that week.

    30. Re:0_0 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Gungor is one of the more genuinely talented acts in all of music.

    31. Re:0_0 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Pushing out crap via marketing?
      Christian are most natural target segment for this since they are used to it.

    32. Re:0_0 by tompaulco · · Score: 1

      As a Christian myself, I have to agree that most Christian music is crap. But as far as Jars of Clay, well, those guys were just awesome whether you want to label them Christian or not. This coming from a guy whose primary interests are classic rock and progressive rock.
      Then there is (or was) Evanescence, which came from Christian roots, but did not want to be billed as Christian. They were pretty awesome as well.
      But in general, I think a lot of Christian artists put out easy listening God oriented crap, which is the corollary of the easy listening secular crap that I also don't listen to. I think it might be easier to break into CCM than other music genres, maybe because people feel that anybody that wants to make a go of it ought to be given the chance. I tend to think that is not the case. I mean, I am a musician myself, but I can't write songs for crap and I know it. I wouldn't want them letting me put out an album.

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    33. Re:0_0 by digitalsolo · · Score: 1

      Skillet is Christian music and pretty good.

      Not sure of others off hand. I generally dislike Christian music, along with a great deal of other things about the religion.

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    34. Re:0_0 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And only properly married, monogamous couples.

      and only for procreation.

    35. Re:0_0 by Tepar · · Score: 1

      I'd highly recommend Theocracy.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yK42DkmsqzE

    36. Re:0_0 by jihiggs · · Score: 0

      jeremy camp has some interesting christian music, nothing ground breaking, or all that different from the other "sounds like everything else" christian music, but he is talented. rap however has improved DRASTICALLY. it used to be corny as could be but now there are several groups to be taken seriously. cross movement, lecrae, amassador to name a few.

    37. Re:0_0 by aristotle-dude · · Score: 1

      The ten commandments are in Exodus 20:
      http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Exodus%2020%20&version=KJV

      I think you are confusing the commandments with the covenant god made with the people of Israel. The covenant spells out what things they should do ceremonially.

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    38. Re:0_0 by RockDoctor · · Score: 1

      But they tell each other "harder, harder ; faster, faster" in 27 different translations into English!

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  2. Pretty sure Moses did it first! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Pretty sure Moses did it first!

    1. Re:Pretty sure Moses did it first! by Monkey-Man2000 · · Score: 5, Funny

      Pretty sure Moses did it first!

      and it even had rounded corners!

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    2. Re:Pretty sure Moses did it first! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Mod this ffs =)

    3. Re:Pretty sure Moses did it first! by Iniamyen · · Score: 1

      So in 2,000 years we have traded 2 tablets that tell you what to do for 1 tablet that tells you what to do. Progress!

    4. Re:Pretty sure Moses did it first! by gewalker · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Just a movie version, not the real thing. The original Mosaical tables may or may not have had rounded corners, but they definitely had the awesome feature of being double-side. I don't know of any tablet device offering this today.

      Ex 3515 Then Moses turned and went down from the mountain with the two tablets of the testimony in his hand, tablets that were written on both sides; on the front and on the back they were written.

    5. Re:Pretty sure Moses did it first! by Penguinisto · · Score: 4, Funny

      Then Moses turned and went down from the mountain with the two tablets of the testimony in his hand, tablets that were written on both sides; on the front and on the back they were written.

      ...so even *that* tablet had multitasking.

      WTF, Apple?

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    6. Re:Pretty sure Moses did it first! by demachina · · Score: 1

      Those were Jewish tablets.

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    7. Re:Pretty sure Moses did it first! by Fjandr · · Score: 1

      The Moses/Jobs and Mt Sinai/Cupertino parallels did flash through my head as I read this summary.

    8. Re:Pretty sure Moses did it first! by antdude · · Score: 1

      Are you sure it was him? See here. [grin]

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    9. Re:Pretty sure Moses did it first! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > Those were Jewish tablets.

      How can you tell ? Something cut off the battery cable ?

    10. Re:Pretty sure Moses did it first! by Archangel+Michael · · Score: 4, Funny

      “The Lord Jehovah has given unto you these fifteen...Oy...Ten! Ten Commandments! For all to obey!”

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    11. Re:Pretty sure Moses did it first! by Archangel+Michael · · Score: 2

      You saying they "trimmed" around the edges?

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    12. Re:Pretty sure Moses did it first! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah but the updates are a bitch

    13. Re:Pretty sure Moses did it first! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      1.Verily,I tell you it's been done. 2. For Jobs strolleth over the surface of the waters,3 . and saw a pad and declared unto others 4." See what I have wrought"5. "Thou shalt lay hands on the pad and purchase apps" 6. Then apps were abundant as apples and the worshippers did copulate. 7. When the seal was broken a cry fell over the land 8. We have viruses in spite of the trojans on our stylus! 9. And a graven image was made in the form of a golden Ballmer and they did worship........

    14. Re:Pretty sure Moses did it first! by Swampash · · Score: 1

      But you can only look at one side at a time. So it's just very quick focus switching.

    15. Re:Pretty sure Moses did it first! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How well does it stand up to abuse ?

    16. Re:Pretty sure Moses did it first! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      As shown in: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L940yIeVZzE

    17. Re:Pretty sure Moses did it first! by 19thNervousBreakdown · · Score: 4, Funny

      Actually there were three tablets, but he held one of them wrong.

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    18. Re:Pretty sure Moses did it first! by friesandgravy · · Score: 1

      Funny! Have a pretend mod point.

    19. Re:Pretty sure Moses did it first! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      *nods knowngly* antennagate

    20. Re:Pretty sure Moses did it first! by unixisc · · Score: 1

      No, you can look @ the side of one that has the first 5 commandments, and the side of the other that has the last 5. Parallel processing.

    21. Re:Pretty sure Moses did it first! by tyrione · · Score: 1

      Pretty sure Moses did it first!

      Yeah, but he wasn't Christian, but just another long line of mythical God Men who were here to tell us what we can and cannot do in life.

    22. Re:Pretty sure Moses did it first! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Abusing it is a sin, and thus it doesn't need to stand up to it.

    23. Re:Pretty sure Moses did it first! by Joce640k · · Score: 1

      Ex 3515 Then Moses turned and went down from the mountain with the two tablets of the testimony in his hand, tablets that were written on both sides; on the front and on the back they were written.

      Version 2.0 pretty much sucked though...

      God withdrew official support for tablets version 1.0 at around that time even though people continue using them to this day. It's totally going bum out a lot of Christians when they die and try to claim under warranty.

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    24. Re:Pretty sure Moses did it first! by wireloose · · Score: 2

      Single screen, yes. And you shouldn't use the chisel stylus on it. Or holy water to clean it.

    25. Re:Pretty sure Moses did it first! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      LOL.

    26. Re:Pretty sure Moses did it first! by MonsterTrimble · · Score: 1

      OK, while I thought the joke was pretty funny, I'm lost on this:

      19 “The first offspring of every womb belongs to me, including all the firstborn males of your livestock, whether from herd or flock. 20 Redeem the firstborn donkey with a lamb, but if you do not redeem it, break its neck. Redeem all your firstborn sons.

      What does 'redeem' mean? (Yes, I'm turning in my bible card at the door)

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    27. Re:Pretty sure Moses did it first! by ilsaloving · · Score: 1

      Funky, it looks like Moses used the same glyphs as used in the Ultima series. Does this mean he was the original Avatar? Where's Lord British when you need him?

    28. Re:Pretty sure Moses did it first! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      “The Lord Jehovah has given unto you these fifteen...Oy...Ten! Ten Commandments! For all to obey!”

      Kudos on the "History of the World - Part I" reference, which has gone completely over the mods' heads (hint: the correct score is 5, Funny)

    29. Re:Pretty sure Moses did it first! by Joce640k · · Score: 1

      It's a religious thing. Try substituting "purify", see if it makes more sense.

      "Purify the firstborn donkey with a lamb...." etc.

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    30. Re:Pretty sure Moses did it first! by Morty · · Score: 1

      "Redeem" in this context means that one gives a certain amount of money to the priest. The Hebrew name for this is pronounced like "Pidyon HaBen." It's still practiced to this day in Jewish Orthodox communities. There is a wikipedia article on it.

  3. Need to turn water into wine? by Life2Short · · Score: 1

    There's an app for that...

  4. Their guranatee: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Absolutely guranteed to not be built by gays, athiests, or dirty brown people.

    1. Re:Their guranatee: by siddesu · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Even better: since it isn't Apple, you can download and watch all the pr0n in the world on it.

    2. Re:Their guranatee: by Opportunist · · Score: 2

      Well, I'm not sure about that, you know that old joke: A priest, a gay guy and a pedo go into a bar and orders a drink...

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    3. Re:Their guranatee: by blackest_k · · Score: 1

      ...and that's just the first guy

    4. Re:Their guranatee: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That was the joke, congratulations.

  5. who posts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    who posts this crap? 95% of people here think jesus is spelled jebus and god is spelled goddammit!
    goddammit! goddammit!

    1. Re:who posts by Splodgey · · Score: 1

      It's funny you should say that. This is from the receipt for the Ipad I ordered in March.....

      Personalised iPad with Wi-Fi 64GB - Black (3rd generation) ..
      Engraving

      Jeebus salvabit nos
      Splodge 2012

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    2. Re:who posts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Is this the model with the gold plate engraving, or the one that is encrusted with diamonds? I still haven't ordered because I can't make up my mind which one to get ...

    3. Re:who posts by Splodgey · · Score: 3, Informative

      Engraving is free........much like being a penis

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    4. Re:who posts by Splodgey · · Score: 1

      ......and trolling anonymously is healthy and constructive? It could be that we're both losers....but I'm the loser who doesn't see an Ipad as elitist. Some people (such as I) have fine motor skill issues and find Keyboard/mouse hard to use.

      If you're purely on an anti-Apple troll however, I have an Android tablet too......but as much as I want it to be as good as an Ipad, it just isn't. Not for partisan reasons, it just isn't :-)

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    5. Re:who posts by MachineShedFred · · Score: 1

      Hater gonna hate. There's damn good reasons to use the laser engraving process, especially if it's free. We ordered 10 iPads for a pilot project, and had them all engraved with asset numbers. It cost nothing, and it was unobtrusive and unremovable without replacing the backplate, unlike a sticker that can be removed with a hobby knife and some mild solvent.

      But I guess you already knew that, since you were being nice and condescending from behind your anonymity. Douchebag.

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    6. Re:who posts by omnichad · · Score: 1

      Engraving makes it harder to sell stolen ones. Makes it slightly less likely to be stolen.

  6. Apple vs God. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    And I thought Apple fanbois were fanatics....

  7. Must purchase two? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Or do all 10 commandments fit on to one tablet this time?

    1. Re:Must purchase two? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "I bring you these fifteen!--"*tablet bluescreens, drops tablet*--"Ten! Ten Commandments!"

    2. Re:Must purchase two? by sentientbeing · · Score: 5, Funny

      Commandments last updated: 6000 B.C. Your commandments are out of date [refresh][cancel]

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    3. Re:Must purchase two? by rickb928 · · Score: 2

      You can hit the refresh button all you want, but the code doesn't change just cause you want to reboot.

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    4. Re:Must purchase two? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      Good one. But an utter failure on the date...

      Moses led the Israelites out of Egypt in the spring of 1513 B.C.E. on Nisan 14 (the first full moon after the spring equinox). They took a meandering path, and crossed the Red Sea. That took them about 3 weeks. Then they all encamped at Mt. Sinai about 3 months later. It took around a week for Moses to reach the place where God gave him the tablets (with the 10 commandments), and another 40 days passed before the full law had been expounded to Moses. At this point, the Israelites and ex-Egyptians that were encamped at the base of the mountain were in full-on revolt, worshiping a calf idol. God alerted Moses to this, and Moses headed back to the camp (another 1-week journey). Moses then smashed the tablets God had given him and set about disciplining the people for their idolatry. The discipline took a few days to "work out", since he had the golden calf ground to powder and mixed into the water supply. (Result: Gold flecked poop!) Moses then returned to the mountain (another 1-week journey), re-chiseled the tablets himself (that'll teach him to control his temper... or not), finished learning the rest of the law (time not specified), and went back to camp again (1 week again). Then the people were assembled, the law was read to them, and they all agreed to be bound by it.

      So... 21 days (pre-Red Sea) + 90 days (3 averaged months) + 7 days (travel time) + 40 days (learning law) + 7 days (travel) + 3 days (gold poop!) + 7 days (travel) + unspecified time (more learning of the law) + 7 days (travel) + unspecified time (assembly) = 182 days + two unspecifed periods. I'd estimate the law was reiterated for a further 40 days, so that brings us to 222 days + assembly time. The assembly probably took about a week. Remember, there were 3 million people in that camp, so the reading would have to be relayed by callers, and then the response would be by the assembly. That's a logistical nightmare. I'll estimate about 60 days for this (remember, it took 40 days for Moses to receive it one-on-one from God in the first place). So it took 282 days (estimated) to deal with all of that. 282 days is just over 10 months, which brings us to around January-February of 1512 B.C.E.

      1512 B.C.E. through 1 B.C.E. = 1512 years
      1 C.E. through 2012 C.E. = 2012 years
      1512 + 2012 = 3524 years.

      Then add the 6 months from January to July.

      That's still pretty far out of date.

    5. Re:Must purchase two? by PopeRatzo · · Score: 1

      Moses led the Israelites out of Egypt in the spring of 1513 B.C.E. on Nisan 14 (the first full moon after the spring equinox). They took a meandering path, and crossed the Red Sea. That took them about 3 weeks. Then they all encamped at Mt. Sinai about 3 months later. It took around a week for Moses to reach the place where God gave him the tablets (with the 10 commandments), and another 40 days passed before the full law had been expounded to Moses. At this point, the Israelites and ex-Egyptians that were encamped at the base of the mountain were in full-on revolt, worshiping a calf idol. God alerted Moses to this, and Moses headed back to the camp (another 1-week journey). Moses then smashed the tablets God had given him and set about disciplining the people for their idolatry. The discipline took a few days to "work out", since he had the golden calf ground to powder and mixed into the water supply. (Result: Gold flecked poop!) Moses then returned to the mountain (another 1-week journey), re-chiseled the tablets himself (that'll teach him to control his temper... or not), finished learning the rest of the law (time not specified), and went back to camp again (1 week again). Then the people were assembled, the law was read to them, and they all agreed to be bound by it.

      I don't know who wrote that, but whoever it is deserves at least a Hugo nomination.

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    6. Re:Must purchase two? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      [citation required]

    7. Re:Must purchase two? by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      As if it wasn't funny already, your username sure added to its humor.

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    8. Re:Must purchase two? by __aaltlg1547 · · Score: 1

      Actually you can't show date much before about 2500 BP

    9. Re:Must purchase two? by PopeRatzo · · Score: 4, Funny

      Moses led the Israelites out of Egypt in the spring of 1513 B.C.E. on Nisan 14 (the first full moon after the spring equinox). They took a meandering path, and crossed the Red Sea. That took them about 3 weeks. Then they all encamped at Mt. Sinai about 3 months later. It took around a week for Moses to reach the place where God gave him the tablets (with the 10 commandments), and another 40 days passed before the full law had been expounded to Moses. At this point, the Israelites and ex-Egyptians that were encamped at the base of the mountain were in full-on revolt, worshiping a calf idol. God alerted Moses to this, and Moses headed back to the camp (another 1-week journey). Moses then smashed the tablets God had given him and set about disciplining the people for their idolatry. The discipline took a few days to "work out", since he had the golden calf ground to powder and mixed into the water supply. (Result: Gold flecked poop!) Moses then returned to the mountain (another 1-week journey), re-chiseled the tablets himself (that'll teach him to control his temper... or not), finished learning the rest of the law (time not specified), and went back to camp again (1 week again). Then the people were assembled, the law was read to them, and they all agreed to be bound by it.

      I am struck by the similarities to the Church of Latter Day Saints origin story.

      Moses: God gave me tablets.
      People: OK, where they at?
      Moses: I broke them.
      People: ???
      Moses: But wait, I copied them down, so these ten things I wrote on these tablets are totally what God told me to tell you.
      People: OK!! Let's go!

      -----

      Joseph Smith: An Italian Angel name "Moroni" gave me some plates with stuff to tell you. I was out in the wilderness skrying (getting answers to questions by listening to my hat) and this Angel totally gave me some golden plates from God that say what He wants us to do.
      People: OK, where these plates at?
      Joe Smith: I got 'em put away somewhere safe. I can't show them to you. God said so.
      People: ????
      Joe Smith: Wait! One of the thing He wants us to do is take a whole bunch of young wives.
      People: Oh, hell yeah! Can we start right now?
      Women: Hey, wait a minute!
      People: Shut up ladies, It's God's will. Now let's choose up. (at this point, the men put their feet in a circle and did "inka-dinka soda cracker..." to see who gets to pick which women. Having been the one to get the golden plates in the first place, Joseph Smith gets to choose first, without participating in "inka-dinka soda cracker...").

      [Note: no disrespect is meant by my depiction of the Jewish or Mormon back stories. Well, maybe a little bit, but not of the Jewish or Mormon people themselves, just on the backstories. And who am I to criticize anyone for believing something crazy? Every April since 1960 I've believed the Cubs were going to win the World Series.]

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    10. Re:Must purchase two? by Dragonslicer · · Score: 2

      Just to clarify a bit, the second pair of tablets that Moses brought back (having smashed the first pair when he saw the golden calf, so presumably somebody saw him do it) weren't exactly hidden away. Everybody knew where they were kept. Also, the exact words were never kept secret.

      Having said that, well played, sir. Definitely deserves a +1 Funny.

    11. Re:Must purchase two? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There is some debate, but the general consensus outside bible literalists is that most likely the Israelites were never enslaved in Egypt.

      http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=530862

      http://skeptoid.com/episodes/4191

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Exodus#Ongoing_debate

      and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moses#Historicity

    12. Re:Must purchase two? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Moses led the Israelites out of Egypt in the spring of 1513 B.C.E. on Nisan 14

      Now I know he used a Japanese vehicle, he lost a bit of my admiration ...

    13. Re:Must purchase two? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      An Italian Angel name "Moroni"

      So it all got started by a moron? :-)

    14. Re:Must purchase two? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's only speculation, but I expect there were 2 identical tablets, one copy for the people and one for God.

      Of course, Moses, clearly angry that they had started the orgy without him smashed the original tablets and had to chisel out a new set himself.

       

    15. Re:Must purchase two? by MachineShedFred · · Score: 1

      I would submit that the Commandments are quite old, but not necessarily out of date. It's a blueprint to not being a lying murderous thieving asshole - something I think we can all get behind without belonging to any particular religion.

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    16. Re:Must purchase two? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually, they did the first time. the Commandments were a covenant or contract with God. And with most all contracts, each party has a copy. So when Moses brought the two tablets each had a copy of all ten commandments, one for the people and one for God.

    17. Re:Must purchase two? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sure, everyone knew their location and also that you would be struck dead if you touched the container.

      But I think the point was it changed from tablets inscribed by the finger of God to tablets chiseled by Moses that he said were the same words as the originals.

    18. Re:Must purchase two? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's as accurate a description of both the Jewish and LDS (Mormon) stories as the claims that the DMCA wouldn't be abused.

      I.E. Not very accurate at all, but in the right circles it's popular to tell it in any case.

    19. Re:Must purchase two? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Or it doesn't matter. Because none of that actually happened.

      Might as well argue Hera is mitochondrial eve from 150,000 years ago. Which was a Tuesday.

    20. Re:Must purchase two? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The smashed tablets were eventually placed in the Ark of the Covenant. (So presumably Indiana Jones may have seen them ... right?)

    21. Re:Must purchase two? by DiEx-15 · · Score: 1

      You have to watch it. If you accidently drop it or throw it at somebody/something, it will split open the ground and drag everything to Hell.

  8. they could have taken 6 small screens by circletimessquare · · Score: 2

    Arranged them as a cross. That would have awesome.

    Bonus: it folds up into a cube. Then the goths would make "hellraiser" jokes and the Christians wouldn't get it

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  9. Resistive Touch. Move along. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Collection of books aside, this is not even a good tablet. It's a resistive touch screen. I wouldn't even consider getting anything that's not capacitive these days.

    1. Re:Resistive Touch. Move along. by narcc · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Capacitive touch screen suck at precision.

      Resistive touch screens are awesome for precision. If I wanted a tablet for writing or drawing, I'd be stupid to opt for a capacitive touch screen over a resistive touch screen.

      RIM has a patent on a hybrid resistive-capacitive touchscreen, which is really the best of both worlds. Finger fondling capacitive screen, cheap stylus friendly resistive touch screen. The Galaxy Note uses a more feature-rich Wacom digitizer which is awesome. It's a shame that they're the only company that understands how useful a stylus can be on a slab.

      To answer Steve Jobs' question, "Who wants a stylus?": just about everybody. (No, those fat fake rubber finger "stylus" things don't count. They don't even come close.)

    2. Re:Resistive Touch. Move along. by siddesu · · Score: 1

      Capacitive works okay for short notes, which is all the writing you'd do on a tablet. As far as drawing is concerned, God created the Wacom tablets/screens for that. A resistive touchscreen doesn't even come close to one of those and is about as useless (or useful) as a capacitive one.

    3. Re:Resistive Touch. Move along. by PopeRatzo · · Score: 1, Troll

      Collection of books aside, this is not even a good tablet. It's a resistive touch screen. I wouldn't even consider getting anything that's not capacitive these days.

      Con men seldom worry about things like including up-to-date technology in their products.

      When you can convince people that they need special religious hand-held computers instead of the evil secular hand-held computers, I'm pretty sure you can convince them that multi-touch and dual-core processors are the devil's work.

      Hell, I'm surprised that they're not just selling a piece of glass glued to a piece of plastic and telling the customers to pray harder. If you think I'm exaggerating, you can go on cable TV right now and buy a special "prayer handkerchief" that is guaranteed to make your prayers more effective.

      In the world of religion, "plug and pray" is a feature, not a bug. And you know why? Because His ways are not our ways. I know this because today Mitt Romney said those very words in a speech to a group of voters. "His ways are not our ways". I'm not kidding. He wants to be President.

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    4. Re:Resistive Touch. Move along. by narcc · · Score: 1

      I disagree. Back when PDAs were all-the-rage I wrote constantly on those old resistive touchscreens -- it made up the majority of my PDAs use! Tablets offer the opportunity to write more than just short-notes, and the capacitive touchscreen makes even that simple task difficult and frustrating.

      Sketching out diagrams, taking meeting notes, etc. are all much better served by a resistive touchscreen or with a Wacom-style digitizer pen.

      We've given up far too much utility in exchange for the very few extras gained by "modern" capacitive touchscreens. The Galaxy Note is on the right track. I expect we'll look back on that product as visionary in the future.

    5. Re:Resistive Touch. Move along. by ichthus · · Score: 1

      We've given up far too much utility in exchange for the very few extras gained by "modern" capacitive touchscreens.

      If you want to use a stylus, I suppose you're right. But most people probably, though I have no statistics to back this up, prefer using their finger. It all depends on the use case. If you want to use a stylus to do things like graffiti-style entry, resistive is the way to go. But, if you prefer the ruggedness of being able to have a solid Gorilla Glass touchscreen, the ease of tapping icons, scrolling with flicks and pinch/zoom with multi-touch, resistive can't handle the task.

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    6. Re:Resistive Touch. Move along. by siddesu · · Score: 1

      You can disagree all you want but that doesn't make it so. Any one of the Samsung galaxy phones is a much better choice to take notes or sketch on than any of my resistive PDAs (tested first-hand against my Newton, my two Clies and my Dell Axim). Even a relatively modern resistive touchscreen device like the Sharp Netwalker isn't any better than a capacitive sensor on a phone.

    7. Re:Resistive Touch. Move along. by narcc · · Score: 1

      I'm not arguing the benefits of a resistive touch screen over a modern digitizer -- I even acknowledged its superiority of resistive touch screens in my earliest reply.

      I'm arguing that a resistive touch screen is superior for pen-style inputs to a capacitive touch screen in every respect -- For example: it's less expensive in terms of cost, computation, and power-use and offers dramatically higher-precision than capacitive screens.

      I further argue that the benefits that capacitive touch screens bring to slab devices are insufficient to overcome the drawbacks they bring with them -- nearly all of which are related to the poor precision they offer, to say nothing of the poor response of the technology to a broad class of user. (Women in particular have difficulty with capacitive touchscreens as their hands tend to be smaller and cooler than a mans hands.)

      The biggest benefit capacitive touch screens offer is Mutli-touch, which doesn't offer much over "pinch-to-zoom" (games would be the only other benefit). Sure, Apple's products rely heavily on muti-touch gestures, but that's a result of poor UI decisions made for early iOS products. Taping onscreen targets is a mix -- you no longer need a pen, but you also need significantly larger targets.

      Now, in exchange for those few benefits you give up precision making tasks like writing and drawing, clicking small targets (like on a web page), repositioning a text-cursor and selecting text, and other tasks which require high-precision more complicated, slower, and otherwise needlessly difficult.

      A capacitive touch screen is clearly inferior to a resistive touch screen if your needs require precision.

      Newer technologies like we're seeing in products like the Galaxy Note are undoubtedly going to play a significant role in the future, if the touch screen fad continues. A point to which I did not disagree.

    8. Re:Resistive Touch. Move along. by narcc · · Score: 1

      But, if you prefer the ruggedness of being able to have a solid Gorilla Glass touchscreen, the ease of tapping icons, scrolling with flicks and pinch/zoom with multi-touch, resistive can't handle the task.

      Well, I don't recall too many smashed displays on older Palms like I see on today's insta-break Gorilla Glass displays. I'm not sure "rugged" is the right word -- it's more "scratch resistant" than anything else.

      I've mentioned elsewhere, that while tapping over-sized icons and pinch to zoom are fine features, you give up far too much in exchange. (I didn't mention scrolling with flicks as it seems silly to me. A stylus and a scroll bar are far more efficient when moving to the top or bottom of a page, or quickly jumping to a specific part of a long document. Flicking is fun, but is otherwise less precise and far less efficient. I don't know how many times I've been annoyed by the very slow process scrolling gesture while trying to get to the top of a page.)

    9. Re:Resistive Touch. Move along. by Jeremy+Erwin · · Score: 1

      Please pinch to enlarge target.

    10. Re:Resistive Touch. Move along. by siddesu · · Score: 1

      You are obviously using the capacitive sensor the wrong way or with the wrong software. Here are some hints for you:

      http://download.autodesk.com/us/sketchbookpro/mobile/sketchbook_mobile_features_620x388.html

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f43Exu02w5A

    11. Re:Resistive Touch. Move along. by narcc · · Score: 1

      Indeed, you must. I'd consider that a (poor) solution to a problem caused by capacitive touch screens -- not a benefit offered by the technology.

      With a stylus, small targets are no problem. Even something like the optical trackpad on BlackBerry phones is faster and more intuitive than pinch-to-zoom-because-my-target-is-too--small. (Of course, the optical trackpad is advantaged over the stylus in this instance as it retains single-handed use, which you lose with both the stylus and the pinch-to-zoom gesture.)

    12. Re:Resistive Touch. Move along. by narcc · · Score: 1

      Lol, I suppose I must be holding it wrong!

      I'm not sure what the video was trying to demonstrate -- it very clearly shows the problems and how poor solutions to writing on a capacitive touch-screen truly are. Take a look at 6:20 or so when he's writing. Full screen, giant letters, poor response from the unit. Contrast that with, well, writing on a resistive touchscreen.

      There are clear and obvious problems with capacitive touch screens. I don't know why everyone is so quick to defend them -- we ought to be demanding better solutions, not lobbying for a technology clearly inadequate for use-cases to which tablets and slab-phones would otherwise be uniquely well-suited.

    13. Re:Resistive Touch. Move along. by siddesu · · Score: 1

      The videos show that you can easily make very precise and detailed drawings and easily take notes on a device with a capacitive sensor. I am surprised the conclusion has escaped you.

    14. Re:Resistive Touch. Move along. by narcc · · Score: 1

      Odd, I came the the exact opposite conclusion. It looked like you had to go out of your way to manage simple tasks like hand-writing a note. Consider performing the same tasks in the video to the equivalent with a resistive touch screen and the differences should be obvious.

      Remember "can be done" is absolutely not the same as "can be done well". What that video shows is how much additional effort is necessary to accomplish those sorts of tasks -- not how "easily" it can be done -- on a capacitive touch screen.

      I'm sorry. The fondle interface is just not a good fit for a great deal of otherwise obvious uses for slab-like mobile computers. Jobs was absolutely wrong about the stylus -- as the market for even the very poor fat-finger type stylus products shows.

    15. Re:Resistive Touch. Move along. by siddesu · · Score: 1

      Well, I'm sorrier than you are.

      The capacitive sensor accuracy is more than adequate and the multitouch gestures are invaluable for the tasks under discussion -- drawing sketches and taking notes. I've shown examples already. To beat those, you need a good Wacom-like sensor, and that is a very far cry from a simple resistive sensor.

      I don't know what kind of magical device have YOU been using, but on the ones I have experience with (listed above) taking notes and especially drawing diagrams is much more cumbersome than on modern multi-touch tablets with capacitive screens.

      You had to go much farther out of your way to write notes or draw comprehensible diagrams on a resistive sensor device similar in size to a modern phone if only because you had to interrupt your workflow to zoom in/out all the time. The volume button on windows mobile was a really poor substitute for the pinch-zoom.

      Besides, I don't understand why are you complaining at all. The capacitive sensor is good enough for 95% of the use cases out there, including all use cases with a resistive sensor. But if you can't live without one, there are a number of resistive sensor tablets you can buy today and the prices are not all that high. There are also some tablets that come with sensor AND a digitizer. They are more expensive, but, again, if you need one, just go get one.

    16. Re:Resistive Touch. Move along. by shutdown+-p+now · · Score: 1

      The Galaxy Note uses a more feature-rich Wacom digitizer which is awesome. It's a shame that they're the only company that understands how useful a stylus can be on a slab.

      They're not the only company by far. Lenovo Thinkpad tablet is also capacitive touchscreen + digitizer. Of the upcoming stuff, a good half of announced Win8 tablets have that, including all from Asus and Microsoft Surface itself.

    17. Re:Resistive Touch. Move along. by narcc · · Score: 1

      Well, this is a waste of my time. The objective facts are that capacitive touch screens are significantly less precise compared to the older technology are are, consequently, not well suited to tasks such as handwriting recognition.

      As I thought I made clear before, that you can sort-of accomplish the same task by piling on additional steps and complexity does not in any way make the two technologies equivalent or just as well suited to the same sorts of tasks.

      But Go ahead and believe whatever nonsense you want. I learned a long time ago that it's impossible to reason with religious people.

    18. Re:Resistive Touch. Move along. by narcc · · Score: 1

      Cool. Thanks for that.

    19. Re:Resistive Touch. Move along. by siddesu · · Score: 1

      The objective fact is that the tasks you claim are hard to accomplish with a capacitive sensor are easily and comfortably accomplished. Everything else is just snobbery and trolling on your part.

    20. Re:Resistive Touch. Move along. by narcc · · Score: 1

      That's subjective, not objective. The difference is precision, however, is objective. It's no wonder you're having so much trouble here as such simple concepts seem to be completely beyond your reach.

    21. Re:Resistive Touch. Move along. by siddesu · · Score: 1

      That's subjective, not objective.

      No, the better usability of a capacitive touchscreen is not subjective.

      Your preference for a stylus is subjective and clouds your judgement of the superior usability that a multitouch interface provides. A capacitive screen that supports a pen is even better, but a single-touch resistive device is clearly inferior to a capacitive one for the purposes of drawing and note-taking assuming that suitable software is available. And suitable software is available.

      The difference is precision, however, is objective

      The small difference in the sensor datasheets is objective, but it doesn't matter in use, because it is compensated for easily. However, you cannot compensate easily the other deficiencies of the resistive sensor.

      such simple concepts seem to be completely beyond your reach

      Your righteous butt-hurt is preventing you from seeing what is important. You try to support your point by focusing on one simple concept of sensor precision, instead of the more relevant issue of the usability of the whole package.

      I sketch and write a lot, so to me what's on the specs sheets is irrelevant as long as it doesn't get in my way.

    22. Re:Resistive Touch. Move along. by jdavidb · · Score: 1

      I appreciate your post; it's very informative to me, as I'm a tablet neophyte. I'd be interested in hearing your recommendation for a stylus.

    23. Re:Resistive Touch. Move along. by narcc · · Score: 1

      No, the better usability of a capacitive touchscreen is not subjective.

      Lol, call me when you learn the difference between subjective and objective.

      I think I've made my point about the deficiencies of capacitive touch screens. I honestly don't understand your position that because you can work around their limitations with additional effort over alternatives they're better for all use cases.

      I sketch and write a lot, so to me what's on the specs sheets is irrelevant as long as it doesn't get in my way.

      Ah, but as we've seen on your video, it does get in the way! I know, you think that because with additional effort the limitations can be overcome for writing tasks that the technology is somehow better for the task that a technology that does not require additional effort to complete the task it's somehow better.

      It's pretty obvious that I'm not going to get anywhere here. Enjoy zooming in on everything.

    24. Re:Resistive Touch. Move along. by siddesu · · Score: 1

      I think I've made my point about the deficiencies of capacitive touch screens

      Sure, and I showed you that the "deficiencies" you talk about are mostly imaginary.

      as we've seen on your video, it does get in the way

      No, we haven't seen it, because you have failed to show an example of a resistive sensor touchscreen device that allows doing something similar with less work.

      I'm not going to get anywhere here

      Of course. You keep arguing the same thing over and over-- that sensor resolution is the only thing that matters, when it is clearly not so. What are you expecting, the facts to change because you expect them to? Lemme tell you, it isn't going to happen soon.

    25. Re:Resistive Touch. Move along. by narcc · · Score: 1

      No, that's not the only thing I argued. I give up. It's like I'm talking to a particularly stupid rock.

  10. battery can beat up your dad by TheGratefulNet · · Score: 5, Funny

    quoting:

    "The battery is actually stronger than everybody else out there on the market.â

    if we feed the christian pad to a Li-Ion, will the romans return again, do you think?

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    1. Re:battery can beat up your dad by siddesu · · Score: 2

      Since Christians were fed to a Li-Ion only occasionally and not as a matter of policy, no, probably not.

  11. Not an iPad Slayer by TheGreatOrangePeel · · Score: 1

    Only way this could be an iPad slayer was if the iPad ran OS X Lion.

    1. Re:Not an iPad Slayer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Only way this could be an iPad slayer was if the iPad ran OS X Lion.

      Uh, it was the lions that ate the Christians, not the other way around.

    2. Re:Not an iPad Slayer by DanTheStone · · Score: 1

      Old testament reference, perhaps? The lions didn't eat Samson.

    3. Re:Not an iPad Slayer by infonography · · Score: 1

      Lions and Christians don't mix. (but it would be entertaining)

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    4. Re:Not an iPad Slayer by Assmasher · · Score: 1

      Leave that to a woman...

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    5. Re:Not an iPad Slayer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Samson wasn't a Christian, either...

  12. Obvious statement is obvious by billcopc · · Score: 1, Flamebait

    We’re looking at other things, probably a newer tablet

    Yeah, uh, so when we start producing the new Edifi 2.0, it's going to be all new and shit.

    Wake me when we have a working space elevator, so we can send these wackjobs to meet their god.

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    1. Re:Obvious statement is obvious by Cosgrach · · Score: 0

      You don't need a working space elevator, just an AK-47.

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    2. Re:Obvious statement is obvious by Robert+Zenz · · Score: 1

      You don't even need an AK-47, a club will do just fine...or a preacher who says that you must kill yourself because the end of the world is near, works sometimes too.

  13. technology and christianity by multiben · · Score: 3, Funny

    Ha ha ha. the inevitable intersection of technology and religion. Lol.

    1. Re:technology and christianity by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, communications technology, and that's exactly what table computers are (for consuming media content).

      Whenever a new technology is invented which can be used for communication, one of its first uses is to communicate religion. Today, churches use projectors for powerpoint presentations. They also use speakers, mics, amps, etc, to amplify sound. Television is used to spread their message. Web sites are used to post study notes and sermon recordings. One of the first uses of movable type-face printing was to print the Bible (AKA the Gutenberg Bible). The list goes on and on.

      Meteorology and astronomy, however...

    2. Re:technology and christianity by Opportunist · · Score: 2

      Technology and religion were not mutually exclusive for the longest time. Actually, religion (or rather, the religious types) were the forefront of technology for a good deal of the past two thousand years. Only recently, when we "dared" to study past the boundaries of the religious scriptures and even were so bold to contradict it, the religious types started to get uneasy.

      It wouldn't do religion justice to ignore its value in preserving information during the "dark ages", when little was spared from looting and plundering by the powers that were safe the religious places where that knowledge could survive. Let's also not forget how much we owe to the Muslim scholars of the medieval times who were quite some leaps ahead of anything we could possibly muster in the fields of philosophy, mathematics and sciences up until the end of the middle ages. Its backwards orientation and anti-technology stance is a rather new development for them either. The reasons are probably the same why the Christian religion got its reputation for being anti-technology, notably the Gallileo incident. Which, if you look at it closely, was much more a political than a scientific issue. Gallileo was simply "for" the wrong guy and "against" the stronger party in the Vatican. Today it would probably not matter and the rest of the world would laud him as the greatest scientist of his kind, much like it happened for the discoverer of the Higgs-Boson lately in quite similar circumstances.

      The main beef I have with religion and its stance to science is that some people seem to make it a political issue. Mostly because they use religion as the base of their power, and if something shakes that foundation they start to lash out, even if that something is science and thus reality. This is pretty sad, and it doesn't do religion and service. Religion can be a great thing for people who want to believe in something, and personally I'd prefer them believing in bearded guys on fluffy clouds to some alien monster that tacks floating souls to their backs, if only 'cause I consider the former the lesser problematic delusion. But believe what you want, whether it's God, Allah, or your friend Harvey in the corner.

      Just leave it out of my laws, my schools and my face.

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    3. Re:technology and christianity by Empiric · · Score: 1

      Haven't heard of Diablo, I take it.

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  14. Patent? by Sez+Zero · · Score: 1

    Hey, Christians have been communicating with God via tablets for centuries now. Since Moses 1.0 I believe. Surely they have the patent on that, right?

    1. Re:Patent? by sensei+moreh · · Score: 1

      Moses wasn't Christian. The patent belongs to the Jews and Muslims (Abraham licensed it to both of his sons)

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    2. Re:Patent? by rickb928 · · Score: 1

      Common misunderstanding. That was opensourced a couple thousand years ago.

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      deleting the extra space after periods so i can stay relevant, yeah.
    3. Re:Patent? by TheGratefulNet · · Score: 1

      "here me, oh israel! god has given me these 15 {{crash}}, I mean 10, these TEN commandments that we should all follow and obey!"

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    4. Re:Patent? by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      Dude, even Mosanto never tried to stretch a patent over three millenia! I mean, the RCC is much but it's not THAT evil!

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    5. Re:Patent? by Mabhatter · · Score: 1

      Not to be picky, but Islam wasn't founded until a few hundred years after Christianity. They have nothing to do with the Ishmael in the Bible.

      The descendants of Ishmael include some peoples of the Arabian peninsula, but the other groups in the region have been distinct since before Abraham's time. Egypt, Babylon (Iraq), Persia (Iran), Syria, Lebanon, and Palestine are all ancient races. there are also other groups descended from Abraham. Issac had Jacob and Esau, Esau is still a "child" of Abraham even if not part of "Israel" (Jacob's new name).

  15. Yea, Not the First, Far From It by CanHasDIY · · Score: 1

    I assume whoever is referring to this device as the "first Christian Tablet" has never been inside a Mardel store.

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  16. If the specs weren't kind of ass by dyingtolive · · Score: 1

    I would consider getting one just to defile it.

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    1. Re:If the specs weren't kind of ass by infonography · · Score: 2

      What would happen if you held it upside down? A Satan pad?

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    2. Re:If the specs weren't kind of ass by raydobbs · · Score: 1

      ...like purchasing a thumb drive shaped like the Holy Bible to store all of your quasi-legal pr0nz on?

    3. Re:If the specs weren't kind of ass by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      May God have mercy upon your soul.

    4. Re:If the specs weren't kind of ass by rickb928 · · Score: 4, Funny

      Nothing would happen, unlike your tablet that erases itself when you turn it upside down.

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    5. Re:If the specs weren't kind of ass by Fjandr · · Score: 1

      Only if it's nun porn.

    6. Re:If the specs weren't kind of ass by infonography · · Score: 1

      Nothing would happen, unlike your tablet that erases itself when you turn it upside down.

      Please don't mistake me for Mitt Romney.

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    7. Re:If the specs weren't kind of ass by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      Not until it reads you the bible the wrong way, but then you get to hear Satan's voice.

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    8. Re:If the specs weren't kind of ass by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      If you wanted to be genuine, I guess the porn you'd have to store on it is pretty much VERY illegal, pretty much at any place of this planet...

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    9. Re:If the specs weren't kind of ass by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      Hmm... I've heard a lot of very colorful idioms for taking a shit, but "mercy" is new to me...

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    10. Re:If the specs weren't kind of ass by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nonononono, you f**ked up the joke.

      Q: What kind of pr0n do you store on a Holy Bible shaped thumb drive?
      A: Nun.

    11. Re:If the specs weren't kind of ass by rickb928 · · Score: 1

      Mitt doesn't use a tablet. He has people for that.

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    12. Re:If the specs weren't kind of ass by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What? No! That's actually approved by the church.
      At least the bible has nothing to say about it.
      Gay porn or bestiality on the other hand...

    13. Re:If the specs weren't kind of ass by AK+Marc · · Score: 1

      What, he just carves in their back with a very sharp stylus?

  17. Perfect for distributing commandments! by lance_of_the_apes · · Score: 1

    Step right up, child. :P

  18. Jesus... by CheshireDragon · · Score: 1

    I wasn't aware that a gadget could believe in Jesus as its Lord and savior.

    I wonder if AFA will boycott this too

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    1. Re:Jesus... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Then you have never used an electric monk.

  19. Already done in 1981 by Hamsterdan · · Score: 1

    Moses: The Lord, the Lord Jehovah has given unto you these fifteen...
    [drops one of the tablets]
    Moses: Oy! Ten! Ten commandments for all to obey!

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    1. Re:Already done in 1981 by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      I still say it would have been a lot funnier if he had said "Jesus! Erh... Ten! Ten commandments..." as he dropped the tablets...

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  20. Stone? by QuantumLeaper · · Score: 1

    Unless it come in Stone, then it not worth it.

  21. All they need now... by RoknrolZombie · · Score: 1

    If only they'd get themselves their own planet...then the rest of us can relax a bit and advance as a society without all of the dead weight...

    1. Re:All they need now... by rickb928 · · Score: 1

      And you think this is YOUR planet? Hehe. That's funny.

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    2. Re:All they need now... by RoknrolZombie · · Score: 1

      Nope, but if you can't accept the inhabitants for what they are: Learning, evolving creatures, then your best bet is to GTFO Besides, if God wants to claim the planet, let him...until there's some evidence that it belongs to *anyone*, I'm afraid that it just "exists"...

    3. Re:All they need now... by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      Well, maybe not ... but let's have God decide, ok? Good ol' judgement of God, we field guns and the religious guys field crosses and bibles and whoever wins, I'll accept the judgment!

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    4. Re:All they need now... by retchdog · · Score: 1

      i don't know; there's this: http://policelink.monster.com/news/articles/131311-secrets-out-trijicon-inscribes-bible-verses-on-scopes

      but that's only one piece of equipment, you say. well, yes, but imagine how well-armed someone would be once they got to the entire bible, or even just the new testament. i wonder if they'll use in-n-out burgers for rations.

      (for completeness: they stopped doing it; probably made a sweet pile of cash on the modification kits to remove the verses, too. there's just no way to lose on a military contract.)

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  22. That is... by Cosgrach · · Score: 1, Funny

    truly the stupidest thing that I have heard all week.

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  23. It's a customized Kindle by jdavidb · · Score: 2, Informative

    Family Christian is essentially a bookstore, and this is their "Nook" or "Kindle." I'm a little surprised they are big enough to do that, but it's attractive that they are offering an android tablet comparable to the Kindle Fire, for $50 less. That could be pretty useful, regardless of religion.

    My Dad and I shopped at the predecessor to Family Christian Stores years ago, when the name was changed from "Christian Bookstores" to "Christian Stores." We joked that you could go there and buy a Christian, and that obviously enslavement of Christians and throwing them to the lions had returned. I guess our humor probably isn't typical Christian humor. Mainly I think we were annoyed that the book selection shrank and the rest of the space was taken up with artwork and stuff.

    1. Re:It's a customized Kindle by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Possibly urban legend, but there was a Christian bookshop which had a large stylised cross for the T making it look like Chris + Ians bookshop.

    2. Re:It's a customized Kindle by Suddenly_Dead · · Score: 2

      Family Christian is essentially a bookstore, and this is their "Nook" or "Kindle." I'm a little surprised they are big enough to do that, but it's attractive that they are offering an android tablet comparable to the Kindle Fire, for $50 less. That could be pretty useful, regardless of religion.

      No, it's not comparable with the Kindle Fire. A spec comparison is here.

      Spec-wise, it looks like it's closer to the Nook Color (not the Nook Tablet), which is $170. However, it has a lower-resolution screen (800x480 compared to 1024x600), no 802.11n, and a resistive touchscreen instead of capacitive. You can get the exact same specs in an even cheaper Chinese tablet; I wouldn't be shocked if these are based on one of those, but rebranded and with Christian-themed software preinstalled.

    3. Re:It's a customized Kindle by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's what I was wondering about. They mention that "our Holy Bible application has 27 different translations" but that icon is the one for YouVersion. That app works just fine on my phone and my CM9 Touchpad. This seems like a cheap company trying to make money off of others' works.

    4. Re:It's a customized Kindle by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      Possibly urban legend, but there was a Christian bookshop which had a large stylised cross for the T making it look like Chris + Ians bookshop.

      Not Adam & Steve, but Chris + Ian?

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    5. Re:It's a customized Kindle by drinkypoo · · Score: 4, Funny

      Family Christian is essentially a bookstore, and this is their "Nook" or "Kindle." I'm a little surprised they are big enough to do that,

      Step 1: email suppliers found via alibaba

      Step 2: get one of them to produce for you a branded tablet

      Step 3: Prophet!

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    6. Re:It's a customized Kindle by k(wi)r(kipedia) · · Score: 1

      You can get the exact same specs in an even cheaper Chinese tablet; I wouldn't be shocked if these are based on one of those

      I would be shocked if the XTab wasn't a rebadged Made in China tablet. Only mainland Chinese companies are capable ATM of producing tablets at those price points. In fact, if you had a couple of thousand dollars you could be selling your own You-Branded tablet, complete with customized logo.

    7. Re:It's a customized Kindle by similar_name · · Score: 1

      it's attractive that they are offering an android tablet comparable to the Kindle Fire, for $50 less.

      I don't know that it's comparable to the Kindle Fire given the resistive screen among other specs. Heck this one is $99, has pretty much the same specs as the offering by Family Christian except the Sears model is capacitive.

    8. Re:It's a customized Kindle by DThorne · · Score: 1

      It's always amused me that 'religious' gets immediately translated to 'family friendly'. Given the divisive bullshit being generally spouted, it couldn't be farther from the truth.

    9. Re:It's a customized Kindle by jdavidb · · Score: 1

      Ooh, thank you! :)

  24. bad gift from grandma by brillow · · Score: 1

    Good luck returning it.

    1. Re:bad gift from grandma by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      Well, you can return it, but I have a hunch that it will return to ashes or something like that...

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    2. Re:bad gift from grandma by Tough+Love · · Score: 1

      You don't return it, you send it home.

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  25. High on Jesus by carrier+lost · · Score: 2

    At first glance I thought "Christian Tablet" referred to a drug you could use to become Christian.

    1. Re:High on Jesus by Opportunist · · Score: 2

      Well, I know a few drugs that lets you speak with Jesus, if that's what you're after...

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  26. I already have the Bible on my tablet by PRMan · · Score: 0

    Is this anything new? I loaded CadreBible on my Asus Transformer already. It even has the original Greek for free.

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    1. Re:I already have the Bible on my tablet by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Only that it's dedicated (but I assume hackable) hardware. Back in the mid-90's I briefly had an inbound telemarketing job where I sold amongst other things a whole slate of Bible related software including a version of Strong's Concordances that had pretty much any translation or version of the Bible that was known to exist. There's probably been this kind of stuff available since the Commodore 64 days.

  27. 27 Translations, You Say? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    27 different ways to literally interpret the Bible? Where do I sign up?

    1. Re:27 Translations, You Say? by retchdog · · Score: 3, Informative

      here ya go: http://www.biblegateway.com/

      no registration necessary!

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    2. Re:27 Translations, You Say? by rickb928 · · Score: 1

      Several translations don't even try to be literal. Sort of like reading the Iliad in English, but way more choices.

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    3. Re:27 Translations, You Say? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The Message translation is one that always makes me roll my eyes. As a devout follower of Christ, I don't see the need to have a translation where every phrase is worded so as to be as intense as possible. It tends to change the meaning a bit too much, and puts too much emphasis on things that God probably didn't intend to have emphasized so much; or at least, didn't intend to be so intense. It's kind of like the hyped-up, over-caffeinated, type-A manager of Bible translations.

      (Wow, I made my semicolon and hyphen quota for the day with just one post!)

    4. Re:27 Translations, You Say? by sandytaru · · Score: 1

      Frankly, the first time I read the Bible (well, large parts of it, anyway) without all the little books and verses and labels stuffed in there after the fact, I liked it a lot more. Dissecting it kills the message more than translating it ever did...

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    5. Re:27 Translations, You Say? by infonography · · Score: 1, Troll

      here ya go: http://www.biblegateway.com/

      no registration necessary!

      do they email a barf bag?

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    6. Re:27 Translations, You Say? by Opportunist · · Score: 2, Insightful

      One of my favorite sites.

      Whenever you need to take a Bible quote out of context to tick the religious guys off, you may rest assured that there is a version that makes whatever point you're trying to make.

      Proof?

      It's in the bible that Jesus was a Pedo. No, really. Just read Matt. 19:14, King James: "But Jesus said, Suffer little children, and forbid them not, to come unto me: for of such is the kingdom of heaven."

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    7. Re:27 Translations, You Say? by Jeremy+Erwin · · Score: 2

      where's the revised standard version?
      Sigh.
      I suppose mainline protestantism is truly dead.

      Oh well. There's always atheism.

    8. Re:27 Translations, You Say? by retchdog · · Score: 1

      copyright?

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    9. Re:27 Translations, You Say? by Mindcontrolled · · Score: 2

      The RSV is under copyright, but available and distributable online. It is considered to be heresy by the fundamentalists, since the more accurated translation doesn't feed their biases. That's what the GP was taking a stab at.

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    10. Re:27 Translations, You Say? by Mindcontrolled · · Score: 1

      Lol, well, I consider myself a Lutheran atheist ;)

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  28. Heathen Hardware by l0ungeb0y · · Score: 1

    We had to make our own Tablet since our Bible app wouldn't run on Heathen Hardware.
    This is of course Tablet 2.0, a massive technological improvement and over 100lbs lighter than the Tablets God gave Moses.

    1. Re:Heathen Hardware by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      I know the Church isn't the fastest inventor on the planet, but it took them over 3000 years just for THAT?

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  29. Specs compared to Nook & Kindle Fire by MSRedfox · · Score: 5, Informative

    Here are the specs when compared to the Nook Color, Nook Tablet, and Kindle Fire. https://img.skitch.com/20120622-umkafxaic4gwhdr26samdnd1h.jpg

    1. Re:Specs compared to Nook & Kindle Fire by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Mod parent up for actually posting something relevant.

    2. Re:Specs compared to Nook & Kindle Fire by RyuuzakiTetsuya · · Score: 1

      I'm surprised they didn't slap the iPad on there.

      Battery capacity on a 2012 iPad? 11,666

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    3. Re:Specs compared to Nook & Kindle Fire by gl4ss · · Score: 1

      it's basically a 70 bucks tablet sold for 150$.

      but the guys name is Honorable, should count for something? not

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  30. Only 10 command lines by infonography · · Score: 1

    Worst tablet evar

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  31. It's still a cube :-) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Unravel a cube to find the cross, fold a cross to build a cube ... get on your knees, profane cattle
    and worship your 'god', it has quiet an appetite for you :-)

    For real, you cattle deserve every single bit of abuse and ridicule that comes your way.

  32. Creationist safe by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It doesn't have that evil, 'evolution' promoting OS Darwin, like Apple's product has, with its evil demon duck mascot. Serioiusly.. They're not doing a very good job keeping their ties to the forces of darkness a secret, are they?

  33. Cheap, crappy tab. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    OS listed as "Android" though the screenshot makes it pretty obvious it's running something that's not ICS. Doesn't mention the google play store either. Doesn't mention what sort of arm CPU it is.

    This means it's a cheap knockoff device that will never see updates and won't be any sort of long term value.

    I'm not a Christian but I can't imagine any sort of god would look kindly upon selling cheap Chinese made crap with a Christian theme slapped on to it to drive sales.. Oh wait.. I just described every "christian bookstore" I've ever been to. I've always known there's been an industry of selling cheap knockoff christian-themed products that are more or less copies of the "secular" counterparts. Music, books, movies, tv shows. You name it.. I've always wondered how big it is.

    1. Re:Cheap, crappy tab. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm not a Christian but I can't imagine any sort of god would look kindly upon selling cheap Chinese made crap with a Christian theme slapped on to it to drive sales...

      Perhaps you haven't seen the latest model some of the professional god-botherers have rolled out here in the USA: Free-Market Jeebus. No more of that pesky "give away all you have", and CERTAINLY none of the commie "whatever you do for the least of these, you do for me" nonsense of Old Jeebus. More like this:

      http://toppun.com/Political-Cartoons/Jesus-Cartoons/Free-Market-Jesus-Blessed-Let-Market-Decide-Your-Morals.gif

  34. Will they call their "Walled Garden"... by otaku244 · · Score: 5, Funny

    "Eden?"

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    1. Re:Will they call their "Walled Garden"... by Jeremy+Erwin · · Score: 1

      it's called App Square. I'm betting that's its just as prudish as the App Store, but with a more limited selection.

  35. Apple Lawsuit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I could see Apple suing the tablet maker for facilitating the worship of someone other than Steve Jobs.

  36. Christian != "family-friendly" by wickerprints · · Score: 3, Insightful

    From the summary: "But if you're looking to get in God's good graces, or you're simply in the market for a family-friendly tablet,..."

    Sorry, but Christian != "family-friendly." There is nothing "friendly" about brainwashing and indoctrinating your children into a superstitious, fearful, dogmatic, and guilt-obsessed worldview. Conversely, there is nothing intrinsically "unfriendly" about being non-Christian--i.e., it is a fallacy to imply that Christians have some kind of exclusive claim on being more wholesome or moral than others, simply by being Christian.

    Oh, and one more thing: this whole article is just a thinly-veiled slashvertisement.

    1. Re:Christian != "family-friendly" by ceoyoyo · · Score: 3, Informative

      Come on, the bible is good wholesome reading for the whole family. Rape, pillaging, slavery, incest, pedophilia, bestiality, torture, biological warfare and glorification of questionable morals for all.

    2. Re:Christian != "family-friendly" by TheGratefulNet · · Score: 1

      not to mention the lashings of the ultraviolent and some occasional in-out, in-out.

      (bog said so!)

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    3. Re:Christian != "family-friendly" by cawpin · · Score: 1, Insightful

      There is nothing "friendly" about brainwashing and indoctrinating your children into a superstitious, fearful, dogmatic, and guilt-obsessed worldview.

      There's nothing friendly about shoving all Christians into your brainwashed, fearful, dogmatic and guilt-obsessed personal view of them either. You don't have a claim to being any more intelligent or moral than those you denounce. You complain about them believing something you may not even though them believing impacts you in no way whatsoever.

    4. Re:Christian != "family-friendly" by Opportunist · · Score: 1, Redundant

      The Bible is much like Mein Kampf, a lot of trouble could have been spared on this planet if just more people had read the bloody book and not just thumped it.

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    5. Re:Christian != "family-friendly" by Empiric · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Okay, I'm listening. What points of consensus on morality has the atheist community reached? Just a "Top 5" moral axioms that you'd say we could ask another atheist at random on and see that there's agreement with you on validity and priority.

      A review of the history of Western Philosophy will show clearly that no secular consensus on the most basic points (see e.g. Hedonism, Utilitarianism, Altruism, Egoism, Stoicism, Pragmatism, etc., etc., etc.) has been achieved in 4000 years, and it isn't going to start now. In reality, unless you can specify your justification for your moral axioms in terms of them being objectively valid and have the means to demonstrate that validity, chances are you have a generalized set of views you can't actually defend, and have assimilated them indirectly from theism as the cultural background norms. On that level, though, it's just subjective opinion you can ignore at will, and not a system of "morality" at all, rather just using the word "moral" in lieu of having any specific content to it. Getting credit merely for using the word "morality" while feeling free to ignore any and all specific expectations of any moral system, whenever and however you wish, though, seems to generally be the actual goal in the first place.

      But, again, we're listening.

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    6. Re:Christian != "family-friendly" by Empiric · · Score: 2, Insightful

      *citations needed

      Sure, I can see how its fun to claim that because something is mentioned in a book, the author fully advocates it and is "glorifying" it, even if he directly says the opposite viewpoint about the event, but the only problem there is its completely invalid. Unless you have some insight to share on how every historian writing about World War 2 is thereby of course saying we should all be Nazis, because they are mentioned in the book, that is. Why the double-standard with the knowledge of your own brain, and how you react to every other book in existence, every single day?

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    7. Re:Christian != "family-friendly" by Grayhand · · Score: 0

      Come on, the bible is good wholesome reading for the whole family. Rape, pillaging, slavery, incest, pedophilia, bestiality, torture, biological warfare and glorification of questionable morals for all.

      And that's just the Old Testament. Wait'll you get to the new part where Jesus hangs out with 12 guys getting drunk rubbing oil on their leader and going on fishing trips. I'm not saying there's gay subtext but there has to be more than one gay porn film that started out that way.

    8. Re:Christian != "family-friendly" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/ for citations. I've done my research and can't comprehend how anyone could claim this book is a "good" book, hell even the plot points are full of holes so it's not a good fictional read. One sentence god is all knowing and the next he doesn't have a clue what someone is thinking or planning.

      I've yet to find someone who supports the bible and has actually read it too, but I know when I do I'll back away nice and slow before running like hell because that person is a step away from killing their own daughters for failing to please their owne.. Husbands. Or murdering their neighbour for mowing their lawn on a Sunday or really any of the "good" examples this book commands.

    9. Re:Christian != "family-friendly" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Bullshit!
        “And thou shalt eat it as barley cakes, and thou shalt bake it with dung that cometh out of man...Then said I, Ah, Lord God, behold, my soul hath not been polluted: for from my youth even till now have I not eaten of that which dieth of itself...Then he said unto me, Lo, I have given thee cow’s dung for man’s dung, and thou shalt prepare thy bread therewith” (Ezekiel 4:12-15)

    10. Re:Christian != "family-friendly" by LeanSystems · · Score: 4, Insightful

      What points of consensus on morality has the atheist community reached?

      Your ignorance shows no bounds and therefore I quit reading at that point. Atheism (a = not, theism = belief in a god) is anyone that does not believe in a God. There is not single belief system for atheist. That would be like asking if you can get clear consensus on any issue because all the people you ask live in the same city/state/country/planet.

      I would also add that you could easily ask 5 Christians about certian moral issues and recieve 5 different answers... examples are: what you can do on the sabbath, should a woman submit to her husband, does the Pope have devine power, is it allowed to have multiple wives, birth control, and abortion.

      So your smug comment will be applauded by Christians who probably have less in common with you than this atheist.

    11. Re:Christian != "family-friendly" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What community?

    12. Re:Christian != "family-friendly" by ceoyoyo · · Score: 1

      The problem is, the bible is like the army - long stretches of absolute boredom punctuated occasionally by frantic action. A page turner it ain't.

    13. Re:Christian != "family-friendly" by ceoyoyo · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Aw, a Christian apologist. Now, for many of the things I mentioned the bible DOES appear to support them. Several of the things I mentioned are actually either ordered or committed by God himself. But that's beside the point... my post didn't actually say that the bible condoned ANY of those things. Only that it contained them. Whoopsie. You should read carefully before bringing out the brimstone.

      If a television program depicts (non biblical) mass rape, but as a bad thing, do you think Christian moralists would judge it appropriate for children?

    14. Re:Christian != "family-friendly" by Daniel+Dvorkin · · Score: 1

      unless you can specify your justification for your moral axioms in terms of them being objectively valid and have the means to demonstrate that validity

      You seem to be rather unclear on the meaning of the word "axiom."

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      The correlation between ignorance of statistics and using "correlation is not causation" as an argument is close to 1.
    15. Re:Christian != "family-friendly" by firewrought · · Score: 1

      Unless you can specify your justification for your moral axioms in terms of them being objectively valid... it's just subjective opinion you can ignore at will, and not a system of "morality" at all.

      Is art objective? Architecture? Design? Justice? Just because (1) systems of reasoning ("schools of thought") cannot prove an ultimate validity or ultimate objectiveness and (2) many such systems of reasoning develop within a field over time, doesn't mean that practitioners of a system are not disciplined to their practice of it.

      Getting credit merely for using the word "morality" while feeling free to ignore any and all specific expectations of any moral system, whenever and however you wish, though, seems to generally be the actual goal in the first place.

      I suggest that moral impulses are innate. That while they realize many different forms (and occasionally get mutilated by this thing we called human rationality), those impulses actually arise from evolutionary desirable game-theoretic principals. Religion merely capitalizes on this impulse by codifying them.

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    16. Re:Christian != "family-friendly" by meglon · · Score: 3, Insightful

      As long as it impacts me IN NO WAY, i don't care what they believe. However, i cannot fathom someone having the incredible level of ignorance or intentional stupidity required by that person to say that religion only affects "believers" and no one else, especially if you live in the US where fanatical religious extremists have been trying to indoctrinate kids through schooling, rewriting history, trying to elevate themselves above everyone else, and generally trying to subvert the freedom and liberty of ANYONE who doesn't "believe" like they do for decades upon decades.

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    17. Re:Christian != "family-friendly" by SpaghettiPattern · · Score: 0

      There is nothing "friendly" about brainwashing and indoctrinating your children into a superstitious, fearful, dogmatic, and guilt-obsessed worldview.

      There's nothing friendly about shoving all Christians into your brainwashed, fearful, dogmatic and guilt-obsessed personal view of them either. You don't have a claim to being any more intelligent or moral than those you denounce. You complain about them believing something you may not even though them believing impacts you in no way whatsoever.

      I fear a holy war is about to ensue. Here on /. In a community of geeks. Who stand out from the regular and the cool in that they seek enlightenment by actually know stuff. By reading books. By appreciating science. Some by actually practising science. By rejecting creationism.

      The geek that developed himself sufficiently renounces religion based on reason.

      Denouncing the religious and perhaps even ridiculing them is a normal and natural practice. Just like being sceptical about other topics one has reasoned over.

      IMHO in trying to protect kids by impeding access to information, one instantly creates a highly desirable alternative to the normal life. Let kids discover stuff and be prepared to educate them on difficult matters. And avoid being moralistic. That's a tough call. But by doing that you don't shy away from stuff that doesn't exist by you defining so. By relying on a technical appliance to banish the uncomfortable issues.

      "Christian family friendly tablet." Gimme a break.

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    18. Re:Christian != "family-friendly" by Arancaytar · · Score: 1

      That would be like asking if you can get clear consensus on any issue because all the people you ask live in the same city/state/country/planet.

      Even better: All the people you ask don't live in a particular city/state/country.

      I wonder what consensus we can get among the people who've never been to the moon.

    19. Re:Christian != "family-friendly" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The secular world is destroying the family unit... Secular != "Family Friendly".

    20. Re:Christian != "family-friendly" by cawpin · · Score: 1
      Like I said, putting all Christians in your little box. You even just said yourself,

      fanatical religious extremists have been trying to indoctrinate kids through schooling...

    21. Re:Christian != "family-friendly" by cawpin · · Score: 1

      The geek that developed himself sufficiently renounces religion based on reason.

      See, that's the problem. You think you have some overarching intelligence advantage. There is no logic that you can use to prove that God doesn't exist and you therefor don't believe. (And I'm not claiming I can use logic to explain the other point of view.) If you don't believe, fine. But don't tell me you don't believe because you know something I don't.

    22. Re:Christian != "family-friendly" by Empiric · · Score: 1

      So, basically complete evasion of the question, then.

      Saying "We not only don't have any consensus, we don't have any specific beliefs at all!" hardly addresses the issue.

      -As a person-, you must have a coherent philosophical stance that, by definition, includes -ethics- as one of the core branches of philosophy. If you can't provide it, claiming or disclaiming "atheism" at the moment as convenient, you fail at life.

      As for Christianity, there is differentiation on specific points, but the broad, core positions correlate very highly across denominations. We have every single day here atheists asserting what "Christians say", as evidence of that very fact.

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    23. Re:Christian != "family-friendly" by SpaghettiPattern · · Score: 1

      The geek that developed himself sufficiently renounces religion based on reason.

      See, that's the problem. You think you have some overarching intelligence advantage. There is no logic that you can use to prove that God doesn't exist and you therefor don't believe. (And I'm not claiming I can use logic to explain the other point of view.) If you don't believe, fine. But don't tell me you don't believe because you know something I don't.

      So you have already realised that your religious beliefs are based on stories without any form of scientific backing. You apparently also read Dawkins who very precisely explains why most likely there isn't a god. And still you aren't convinced. Or perhaps you're in denial as everything that used to provide a foundation turns out not to exist. Or perhaps you cannot fathom that some people are benevolent simply because they sincerely are, not because they fear a god. Whatever you choose to believe, more reasoning and less rationalisation will improve your life.

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    24. Re:Christian != "family-friendly" by Empiric · · Score: 1

      You're distorting the comparison again. Do I think a -visual depiction- would be appropriate for children, or a statement in text that it occurred, as in a history book? These are not comparable forms of presentation.

      As for the subset of your claims for which there actually can be said to be a directive, I'm guessing you're used to "apologists" who respond something like "Well, yes, but that was as of a particular historical and social context, during wartime...".

      I don't do that. I double-down. "I know exactly what it actually says... atheist."

      Since you don't like the bible, perhaps an extracanonical would be more to your liking, so I'll cite Thomas Saying 41.

      Maybe it's time for you to provide yours.

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    25. Re:Christian != "family-friendly" by cawpin · · Score: 1

      Where did I say my beliefs didn't have any sort of scientific backing? The only thing I said is that I can't use it to PROVE God exists. If that means they have no scientific backing, then neither does the belief that God doesn't exist. Also, parts of my beliefs (Christianity) have been backed up by scientific findings. Many things, such as the locations of lost cities in the Bible, that people thought weren't real hundreds of years ago have been backed up by expeditions. And I'm not talking about some religious nuts going out to prove that the Bible is true; I'm talking about real scientists doing real research and coming back with real evidence. If you choose to not believe me, or them, ok.

      As for Dawkins, I have not read him at length, but I am familiar with his work. He just comes across as an arrogant dick to me.

      I also never said that the only reason people are nice is because they fear God. Being nice to your fellow man (until he no longer allows it, IMO) is a great way to live, no matter if you believe or not. Good on you for trying to live that way.

      Lastly, I am an engineer, reasoning is how my mind works. I haven't found anything in believing that contradicts my logical thoughts. Contrary to what religious extremists (or atheist extremists for that matter) will tell you, there is no inherent contradiction between my beliefs, Christianity, and science as long as you keep an open mind regarding both principles.

      Thanks for the discussion.

    26. Re:Christian != "family-friendly" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They haven't evaded your question. They demonstrated that your question is invalid.

    27. Re:Christian != "family-friendly" by Empiric · · Score: 1

      There is no such thing as an invalid question.

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    28. Re:Christian != "family-friendly" by ceoyoyo · · Score: 1

      Ah, it's the medium not the message. I see. So reading to your kids, from your holy book purported to be the source of all morality, about how the only man who survived from Sodom and Gomorrah (saved personally by God) offered up his two virgin daughters to a violent crowd bent on rape to "do to them whatever you like" is okay, because it's written down and not a visual depiction?

      I'm not distorting the comparison, much less again. That was you, remember? All I said was that the bible contained these things, and if you like, I can find an example of each one. You probably know where they are already though, or you would, if you'd read the bible. But you ARE again accusing me of things I didn't say. I didn't ever say I didn't like the bible. If you skip the boring bits, like the genealogies in Genesis, it's a pretty good read. Action packed, lots of sex and violence, moral ambiguity, characters who constantly fall prey to their pride, conceit or prejudice. Especially that God character.

      There are even some good moral lessons in the bible. Lots of sound bites too. One of my favourites, appropriate here since we're talking (obliquely) about Christians trying to impose their moral beliefs on other people, is John 8:7.

    29. Re:Christian != "family-friendly" by firewrought · · Score: 1

      Okay, I'm listening. What points of consensus on morality has the atheist community reached? Just a "Top 5" moral axioms that you'd say we could ask another atheist at random on and see that there's agreement with you on validity and priority.

      Don't lie. Don't cheat. Don't steal. Don't kill. Don't rape.

      All humanity--theistic and otherwise--agree on the principals. It's the exceptions that cause so much fuss.

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    30. Re:Christian != "family-friendly" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Don't know if I could consider this a slashvertisement. I saw it moreso as being put up here for everyone to make fun of.

      It'd be like if those stupid $10k cables for audiophiles was put on Slashdot's front page. Albeit it's technically advertising its existence, it's presence is purely to make fun of it.

    31. Re:Christian != "family-friendly" by Spectre · · Score: 1

      There is no such thing as an invalid question.

      Why does yellow sound like sweet?

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    32. Re:Christian != "family-friendly" by Empiric · · Score: 1

      "It doesn't."

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    33. Re:Christian != "family-friendly" by Empiric · · Score: 1

      ...about how the only man who survived from Sodom and Gomorrah (saved personally by God) offered up his two virgin daughters to a violent crowd bent on rape to "do to them whatever you like" is okay...

      That'd be an interesting point, but again, that offer is a described event, it is not being advocated, in fact it is the exact opposite of being advocated. The authoritative representatives of God in the story, the angels, put a stop to the idea immediately.

      Back to the previous analogy, the WW2 history book says the Nazis invaded Russia, and the Russian book author describes positively the actions of his fellow Russians in responding against it immediately, and you end up by some twist of logic telling us that the historian sides with the Nazis.
      I'm usually quite specific in my qualifications of what somebody else said. You said that the bible provided "glorification" of the "morals" you semi-accurately asserted were there, without quoting the actual text and allowing the reader to form their own conclusion as to your characterization. "Glorification" seems quite sufficient to conclude that you were asserting that all of the presented "morals" were advocated. I think we can fairly dispense with the notion that you "didn't ever say you didn't like the bible" by asking any given person if your original snarky post expressed approval or disapproval. That is, though, the common problem with presenting sarcasm as if it had serious argument value--since it doesn't, and it's open to... interpretation... and can be semantically backed-off pretty easily, as you are doing.

      If you feel like you got hit in a head with a stone, my apologies. Usually TCP/IP doesn't support solid object transfer. As Jesus did in that precise scenario, though, I'm quite free to still express disagreement with a position or behavior.

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    34. Re:Christian != "family-friendly" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hmmm "impacts you in no way whatsoever". Divorce. Abortions. Gay marriage. Gay adoption. Gay marriage.

      When other people do these things it doesn't impact Christains. However, I do believe quite a few Christians get a little bit worked about about more of this.

      Even if you're liberal don't be naive enough to think others in power who may share your beliefs don't apply these beliefs to limit the freedoms of other people.

    35. Re:Christian != "family-friendly" by Threni · · Score: 1

      *citations needed

      No, they're not needed.

    36. Re:Christian != "family-friendly" by LeanSystems · · Score: 2

      -As a person-, you must have a coherent philosophical stance that, by definition, includes -ethics- as one of the core branches of philosophy. If you can't provide it, claiming or disclaiming "atheism" at the moment as convenient, you fail at life.

      Where did I say that I do not have a very solid set of morals? All I said was that just because I don't belive in a God (and just to be clear you don't believe in many Gods, just one less than I do), and some other guy doesn't believe in a God does not make us some how connected and required to live by the same moral code.

      I do have one overriding principle I live by: tolerance. For instance I will call you ignorant of these topics, as you have shown to lack some basic understanding of ethics and morality. However, I won't claim you "fail at life" because of that. In fact, as I stated in the previous post, I bet we agree on tons of subjects... the easiest of which are things like murder and rape.

      I hope you will seek truth with an open mind.

    37. Re:Christian != "family-friendly" by Raenex · · Score: 1

      As for Christianity, there is differentiation on specific points, but the broad, core positions correlate very highly across denominations.

      As a moral foundation for humanity, one that is "absolute", Christianity is a complete and utter failure. The biggest problem is the lack of getting the same message to all people. If these morals are so important, then why does an all-powerful god depend on a human "prophet" to get the message out, instead of unambiguously delivering the message in a divine way to all people of all cultures and all times?

      In reality, there's nothing special about the Jesus mythology over many of the other prophet mythologies like Muhammad, Joseph Smith, or countless others that aren't offshoots of Hebrew mythology. It all looks like a bunch of people making up bullshit, and as a thinking, rational person, it makes more sense to me to not take any of it as Truth.

      Other problems include the changing morality (old testament versus new), the problems of how the New Testament was generated (by committee, picking from a pool of texts), the problems of translations and loss of context as important details are lost to history, or just a complete lack of answers to problematic moral questions, or as you have tried to sweep under the rug, the problems of differing interpretations on a host of issues, including whether some things are just parables or should be taken literally.

    38. Re:Christian != "family-friendly" by Raenex · · Score: 1

      There is no logic that you can use to prove that God doesn't exist and you therefor don't believe.

      There is no logic to prove that dragons and fairies don't exist, either, or that Zeus isn't a god that actually exists, or any number of ridiculous beliefs born from primitive people making up shit as they went along. What is true, however, is:

      1) There's a distinct lack of evidence.
      2) There's plenty of evidence which contradicts claims.
      3) There's evidence for alternative theories based on reasoning and verification.
      4) We've progressed immensely by discarding the superstitious and proceeding on reasoning and verification.

    39. Re:Christian != "family-friendly" by bolthole · · Score: 2
      Careful, your religion is showing. (Note: being an Atheist, doesnt mean you dont have a religion. it just means your religion doesnt have a god as its center)

      There is nothing "friendly" about brainwashing and indoctrinating your children into ....

      You probably dont have children, do you?

      The primary purpose of parenting (as opposed to, say, an orphanage) is to "indoctrinate", or one might even say brainwash, your children with what you believe is proper behaviour. So the first part of your sentence is not much more than redundantly referring to parenting in general, albeit in an extremely Christianphobic manner.

      Conversely, there is nothing intrinsically "unfriendly" about being non-Christian

      In theory, this is true. However, in practice, the most loud, publicized, "non-Christian" media viewpoints, do tend to indeed be very anti-family and anti morals.

      Family is, by common-sense, long-standing definition, the biological parents of children, staying together exclusively to raise, protect, and care for their children. In particular, the state of the parents is usually called "marriage".

      Sadly, the primarily anti-christian media is attacking just about every point of that. eg:

      • "No need to be faithful.. adultery isnt just okay, its exciting and good!"
      • "No need to stay with your children... do whatever feels good to YOU! The children will be fine with whoever"
      • "Heck, since all of the above is okay, what do we need marriage for? Lets just pervert it, and redefine it to be all about lust.. oops, I mean 'love', instead of family"
    40. Re:Christian != "family-friendly" by meglon · · Score: 2

      I also said this (after many other people said it): If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the problem. UNTIL non-fanatic religious extremists stand up against the subversives, they are as much a part of the problem. The subversives gain power by these more mainstream people being silent, as their silence is taken as condoning said extremes passively if not actively. It's your religion, control the worst aspects of it, or everyone IS to blame.

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  37. Hmmmm..... by InspectorGadget1964 · · Score: 1

    I think a touch sensitive screen could be sinful Will you need to repent, do penance and pray for forgiveness after use? Can you use it to get to http://www.darwinawards.com/?

  38. Great Money Making Idea by ad454 · · Score: 1

    Step 1: take a cheap-ass discounted $50 tablet
    (android 1.x and some 2.x tablets are dropping in price, not to mention RIM playbooks)

    Step 2: add some religious software and branding
    (project gutenberg is a good source of free religious books)

    Step 3: market it to religious groups
    (especially those that are technically ignorant; oh look what granny bought you for X-mas)

    Step 4: profit $$$.

    Step 5: (optional..) repent for your soul at your death-bed.

    Repeat the above steps for Buddhist, Christian, Islamic, Jewish, Hindu, etc.

  39. Not the first. by melted · · Score: 0

    The first Christian tablets were unveiled over two thousand years ago.

    1. Re:Not the first. by ceoyoyo · · Score: 1

      I think they used mostly scrolls by the time Christians came along.

    2. Re:Not the first. by TheGratefulNet · · Score: 1

      yeah, but the mice they used to scroll, back then, are LONG dead by now!

      this is why no one has gotton past the first page of any of the ancient scrolls.

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    3. Re:Not the first. by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      Good grief, you want to say there's MORE than those 10 commandments? Most people already have trouble with those, more would clearly overtax them.

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  40. EVIL SATANIC HEATHEN BADARSE TABLET OF SIN!!!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Patent pending! I called it!

  41. But does it run Linux? by oodaloop · · Score: 1

    Specifically, Ubuntu Satanic Edition.

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    1. Re:But does it run Linux? by Inzkeeper · · Score: 1

      You joke but I remember (years ago) seeing an email from a user who took offense at receiving an automated message from an mail "daemon". He didn't want to receive any further emails from evil automatons. sigh.

    2. Re:But does it run Linux? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You joke but I remember (years ago) seeing an email from a user who took offense at receiving an automated message from an mail "daemon".
      He didn't want to receive any further emails from evil automatons.
      sigh.

      Easily solved.

      root@box#> userdel fundie-nutcase

  42. Wait, what? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    How exactly did they decide that selling an extremely low-spec tablet at a break-even or loss price was a better idea than creating an app and selling it to an already established and respectably large tablet consumer base?

  43. Really? THIS made the front page? by sjbe · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Umm, why are we giving what is almost certainly a crappy piece of equipment with a marketing tie in to a bizarre cult the time of day? Someone who is dumb enough or deluded enough to buy one of these they certainly isn't reading slashdot. If people want to go off and read their weird, nonsensical stories about invisible friends in the sky, fine. But this certainly isn't news for nerds nor is it stuff that matters.

  44. Right next to Ubuntu Christian edition! by davydagger · · Score: 2

    I guess it would be done sooner or later. Thats the power of free software/open source. If you don't like it, write your own version. Looks a lot like android. So we now have Android Christian edition, in addition to Ubuntu Christian Edition.

    I can firmly say as an unbeliever I won't be buying one, but I as long as they share their source code, I wish them well.

  45. Finally tablet Amish can use... by enterix · · Score: 1

    oh, wait...

  46. You insensitive clod! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    When will I get my Halal tablet!?
    I'm muslim!

    1. Re:You insensitive clod! by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      I'd guess you have to jailbreak that one... or maybe in this case it's rather an exorcism than a jailbreak...

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  47. Re:Really? THIS made the front page? by TheGratefulNet · · Score: 1

    uhm, slashdot is here for page refreshes.

    you did know that, right?? that this isn't a service to us, for us or by us?

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  48. Those words look the wrong way round... by BumpyCarrot · · Score: 1

    ITYM "Honorable Brian" and "Christian Family".

    Thank you, I'm here every night this week!

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  49. Mission Statement by jhobbs · · Score: 1

    âoeIt goes along with our mission: trying to get people closer to God ⦠through a tablet.â I guess telling people they are going to burn in hell for being different than you isn't marketing well right now.

  50. Fucking idiots. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    'nuff said.

  51. Prior art? by Slicebo · · Score: 1

    Actually, *Moses* released the first Christian tablet. . . a pair of them if I recall. At five commandments per tablet, though, pretty limited storage.

  52. heretic! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    it should be "and a malenky bit of the old in-out"

    do not disrespect the scriptures!

  53. Read that wrong... by stewart4t2 · · Score: 1

    I really thought it was a Slayer themed iPad. As in, "unHoly iPad: The Slayer. The first themed iPad - and first to device to block all Christian communications!"

  54. Re: Original Greek ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    > It even has the original Greek ...

    Moses wrote in Greek ?

  55. Unrelated by dittbub · · Score: 0

    But what kind of trash news has Fox News got?! Noting particularly wrong with the link in question BUT the "Recommended Videos" on the right hand side point me to a video of a child rapper in a smutty video and a video of an alligator chewing a teens arm off.

  56. And there is a lifetime guarantee by gary_7vn · · Score: 1

    If it ever fails it will come back to life again in 3 days, so no worries!

  57. I predict a conflict by __aaltlg1547 · · Score: 1

    Users will be taking the Lord's name in vain within 5 minutes of turning it on.

  58. Re:Really? THIS made the front page? by Opportunist · · Score: 2

    Hey, I had a hard day and I come here to unwind, and I've had more laughs in the few minutes reading this than I had all day during the meetings!

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  59. Re: Original Greek ? by spauldo · · Score: 1

    The majority, if not all, of the New Testament was originally written in Greek. It makes sense for the time - Greek was the language of scholars.

    The books of Moses (i.e. the first five of the Old Testament) were written in Hebrew, which requires more than just a font change to display. There are special libraries for dealing with it, since it's read right to left and has some funky indention rules (IIRC, I'm no expert).

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  60. JESUS FOR SALE! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    JESUS FOR SALE!

  61. Incorrect by Wrexs0ul · · Score: 4, Funny

    This tablet was perfectly created a week ago as-is on the developer's desk, it did not evolve over years like the iPad.

    -Matt

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  62. crusher by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    http://www.crusher007.com
    http://www.sand-making-machine.com
    http://www.china-impact-crusher.com
    http://www.cnshunky.com
    http://www.bestssj.com

  63. Comment removed by account_deleted · · Score: 1

    Comment removed based on user account deletion

  64. I knew I should have kept that. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Please refer to Product Support Lifecycle Document included with your product.

  65. "Increase knowledge and practice compassion." by earls · · Score: 1

    The simplest axioms for harmony?

  66. Re:Really? THIS made the front page? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Uh oh... "you're going strait to hell for that one".

  67. Now there'll be enuf space for the 15 Commandments by Leemeng · · Score: 1
    Yes, there were Fifteen Commandments!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4TAtRCJIqnk

  68. eSword by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Christian techies should download e-Sword. As an atheist, this is one of the best bible references you can use. You also actually can compare the different versions of the Bible instead of language translations of one version.

  69. I've always wondered.... by meglon · · Score: 0

    What does God need with all that money.

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  70. Is it running Jesux? by Guy+Harris · · Score: 1

    Billed as the world's first Christian tablet

    But does it run Linux?

    ("Steve Jobs"? Pudge, is that you?)

  71. Multiple translations = good by nikolardo · · Score: 2

    As silly as this is, it's actually pretty neat to see a Christian organization putting out a) technology with b) multiple English translations of the bible. Maybe it'll help a few of the more ignorant Christians realize that the King James version is not the one allegedly handed down by god.

    1. Re:Multiple translations = good by james_van · · Score: 1

      Maybe it'll help a few of the more ignorant Christians realize that the King James version is not the one allegedly handed down by god.

      dont hold your breath. more likely, therell be a whole pile of "KJV only" groups that will denounce this, kick people who own one out of the church, and rant from the pulpit about this being another attempt by the devil to infiltrate our churches

    2. Re:Multiple translations = good by omnichad · · Score: 1

      Price gouging for lousy hardware with a resistive touch screen is unlikely to get much positive attention.

  72. Wrong shape by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Disappointing. I was hoping for a tablet in the shape of a crucifix.

    Posted AC for obvious reasons.

  73. Religion's desperate fight to stay relevant by Arancaytar · · Score: 0

    Has already been lost.

  74. nothing new or special by cawpin · · Score: 1

    I just confirmed with the company through Twitter that "their" bible app is YouVersion, which is available on any Android or iOS device. So my first suspicion was correct. They are simply trying to make money off of other people's products. Douchebaggery at its finest.

  75. Korean Bible in Crosswire format?? by RobertLTux · · Score: 1

    what i want to know is why most christians seem to be afraid of FLOSS stuff (and always seem to write stuff with a Closed Source must give me lots of money type license).

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  76. Jesus uses DRM by anypundit · · Score: 1

    I assume whoever is referring to this device as the "first Christian Tablet" has never been inside a Mardel store.

    That's just an eReader Ipad app. But . . .

    In order to use the DRM-protected eBooks available at this site, we recommend that you use the FREE Mardel Reader.

    We'd hate for you to share THE BIBLE. I guess revivals now require a site license.

    1. Re:Jesus uses DRM by CanHasDIY · · Score: 1

      I assume whoever is referring to this device as the "first Christian Tablet" has never been inside a Mardel store.

      That's just an eReader Ipad app. But . . .

      Yea, I couldn't find any actual tablets on their website, but I was in a Mardel last November and they had 2 or 3 different ones on a stand in their books section, all being marketed as "Christian tablets."

      Notably absent: The Kindle Fire... maybe they're planning on making a clone, and calling it the Brimstone. :D

      In order to use the DRM-protected eBooks available at this site, we recommend that you use the FREE Mardel Reader.

      We'd hate for you to share THE BIBLE. I guess revivals now require a site license.

      WWJP - What Wouldn't Jesus Pirate?

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      An enigma, wrapped in a riddle, shrouded in bacon and cheese
  77. Fack by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Fack, Fack, FACK.

    FACK!

    I tried to use this FACKING tablet to rant about these stupid intrusive religious laws and it keeps facking interrupting my swear words!

  78. No. an $85 tablet with content from Churchbuntu by amcdiarmid · · Score: 1
    I looked at the specs of this tablet yesterday: It appears to be a generic $85 tablet (perhaps less:No CPU specified, HDMI out, does not state if it has a resistive or capacitive screen, no camera, 802.11b/g, does not specify what version of Android.) with some "family friendly" browser blocking; 27 versions of the bible.

    If I had to guess, I would say that this is a cheapo tablet (you can get a 1GHz Allwinner tablet with the same specs, android 4.x; a capacitive screen for under $90) with some Jesus-left software in it. Much like some of the Church based versions of Linux.

    It appears that you pay an extra $60 for the Churchbuntu software integrated with it. Perhaps I should buy one for my girlfriends mother;p

  79. If it dies just wait 3 days by CavemanKiwi · · Score: 1

    If it dies just wait 3 days

  80. Eyes Rolling by Somebody+is+Grar · · Score: 0

    Why didn't they call it the "Stone Tablet" or "The Tablet of Commandments"?

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    Grar II
  81. A tablet is a tablet. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's fucking dumb to put a religious spin on this sort of thing. It will be fun to watch it bomb.

    At the end of the day it's a shitty tablet with specs much worse than the Kindle Fire and light years behind the Nexus 7. I mean seriously, a resistive touchscreen? Who uses that crap any more?

  82. They are not alone... by r33per · · Score: 1
  83. As a Christian, I say, "huh?" by DaneM · · Score: 1

    I must be completely missing the point of this hardware.

    Am I to assume that circuit boards, LCD pixels, etc. in a configuration thusly makes this a holy item, somehow endorsed by God? Am I to further assume that they invented it so that they could get their favorite in-house Bible application its own platform upon which to be used? (Never you mind that there are probably a hundred of those apps out there.)

    As a Christian, I consider this utterly stupid, and (theologically-speaking) wonder if it's just a product of pride and greed (that is, "the usual business model," plus pride)...if I were to guess. If so, this is very Christian, indeed. /sarcsasm

    The jokes about it being able to run a web browser, Flash, and therefore pornography, violent movies, etc. are, of course, rather insightful. Maybe it's "Christian" because its hardware is too crappy to play one of those evil violent video games...? *facepalm*

    Maybe some Christian more brilliant than I am will shortly enlighten me...

  84. Christian music by KingAlanI · · Score: 1

    I'm not a Christian, but my music collection contains some stuff with Christian themes

    Bob Dylan had a born-again phase, with three such albums. I like the Slow Train Coming and Saved albums; I haven't listened to Shot Of Love.
    Johnny Cash was a devout believer his entire life and often involved this material, but I don't have any whole albums of it. Sometimes it was originals, sometimes it was gospel classics. Life's Railway To Heaven seemed particularly fitting for him, since he also did a lot of train songs.

    Some other acts touched on it less obviously or less often, giving me a few other examples here and there.

    PS
    Katy Perry did that stuff before getting into pop, but I have the "Katy Hudson" album and feel it's profoundly mediocre

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    I listen to both RIAA and non-RIAA stuff if I like the music, tangential business/politics nonwithstanding.
  85. White Supremacist music by KingAlanI · · Score: 1

    Gawd, that stuff sucks.

    Prussian Blue (Lamb and Lynx Gaedes) is the worst singing I've ever heard, and this comes from someone who's listened to a lot of modern mainstream pop. their racist mother forced them into it, so there's a lack of enthusiasm there.

    Skrewdriver is a classic of the genre, alright classic punk sound. Battlecry, more recent, sounds kinda like classic metal.
    Also, not White Supremacist, but those Westboro Baptist Church folks put out some interesting fundamentalist-themed song parodies

    Even if the music is alright from a technical/artistic perspective, I avoid listening to it because I don't want those ideas getting stuck in my head.

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    I listen to both RIAA and non-RIAA stuff if I like the music, tangential business/politics nonwithstanding.