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Steve Jobs' Yacht Revealed
schwit1 writes "Venus, the incredible luxury yacht Steve Jobs had been designing up until his death a little over a year ago, seems to have made its first appearance as a finished product in the city of Aalsmeer in the Netherlands. Unsurprisingly, its design is breathtaking. Reportedly designed in a joint effort between Jobs himself and Philippe Starck, the stunning ship first showed up on the blog One More Thing, which posted some stills as well as a few other details. The ship is about 230 to 260 feet long, for instance, and made entirely of aluminum, which makes it particularly light. And if you had any doubt this is Steve Jobs' yacht, there are seven 27-inch iMacs in the wheelhouse. According to One More Thing's sources, the Jobs family will be present for the yacht's christening ceremony proper, thought it's unknown whether or not they intend to use it, or what its ultimate fate may be. Regardless of what may happen to her, she sure is a beauty. It's certainly a shame Steve Jobs never got the chance to see her finished."
I don't know, it looks more like an iSore to me.
For those of you who wish to save bandwidth and not seek out a picture:
Imagine USS Seal and Merrimack having a love child.
Imagine a hurricane depositing a pagoda on top.
But not as pretty.
What an ugly monstrosity. Well, we know Steve was a minimalist. Look at the pictures of the bridge. No buttons!
"Freedom in the USA is not the ability to do what you want. It is the ability to stop others from doing what THEY want"
I seem to recall that ocean air is fairly corrosive. I realize whomever buys this will have a lot of money, but I'd guess those iMacs would have be replaced fairly frequently, and possibly prone to failure while at sea.
they are usually well designed. this is not.
Samsung's CEO's new yacht. I hear they'll be debuting it next year.
That is the ugliest seagoing thing I have ever seen. Job's design taste obviously didn't come from Jobs himself. He should've had his designers build models (for him to poop on) until he found one that was sleek and attractive.
Only the dead have seen the end of War. - Plato
Kind of Frank Lloyd Wrightesque... not my impression of a ship for rough seas.
... with all the profit from all the overpriced iDevices.
Looks like the Jobs reality distortion effect persists after death!
Never understimate the power of human stupidity -Lazarus Long
And if you had any doubt this is Steve Jobs' yacht, there are seven 27-inch iMacs in the wheelhouse.
Why yes I do. I doubt any egocentric billionaire could afford one of those $1800 27-inch iMacs, much less seven of them. Good lord, such opulence!
This is a yacht!
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Sigs are for losers
At least it's not a rectangle with rounded corners, then he'd have to pay royalties to a certain company.
Ugly! Ugly! Ugly!
From the looks of it, I assume that Jonathan Ive was NOT involved in the design.
The real "Libtards" are the Libertarians!
Until the iYacht 2 comes out next year...
Big panels of vertical glass. What happens when one of them takes a good sized wave?
Have gnu, will travel.
and major parts are bolted in so when they fail you need to replace the full boat.
I expected more flowing lines not something so... blocky. To each his own, I suppose. I still wouldn't turn it down if someone offered it to me, of course :-). I love boats, and something like that would be fantastic. Not that I could afford even the slip fees, much less to start the engines.
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No sails. Less space than an aircraft carrier. Lame.
Minimalist?
I barely want it to float. I've seen many beautiful ships. There is nothing on that that has any grace to it.
No big deal, just get them conformally coated.
And they named her Venus.
They probably didn't realise "The Good Ship Venus" had a fair bit of prior art. I wonder who they'll sue for that?
"I've got more toys than Teruhisa Kitahara."
I tend to agree with you.
It in fact has graceful and classic lines reminiscent of the Art Deco movement of the 1920's.
But seriously, did you expect anything else but childish nonsense on Slashdot about Apple?
If you want news from today, you have to come back tomorrow.
Sleek and mirrory with floor to ceiling windows... until you see the wheelhouse. Seriously, WTF?!
It looks like Steve Jobs took the designs of the black ship that Zaphod Beeblebrox stole from the restaurant at the end of the universe, built it in white, then jammed a old corrugated iron shack on the top for a wheelhouse!
This is a longstanding nautical tradition, so...yes. Yes you are.
I'd have thought a Buddhist would strive to be unencumbered by such monuments to worldly wealth.
But then, I might not be well enough informed.
How is it a shame that a cruel, lying, megalomaniac who disavowed his daughter's existence for nearly 20 years didn't get to out on his yacht?
I have never seen a boat/yacht/ship more ugly than this thing...
I hate to be a nit-picker, but are those iMac monitors daylight readable?
Have gnu, will travel.
Damn, what a horrid yacht. It looks like a 1920s steam ferry.
Excuse me, but please get off my Pennisetum Clandestinum, eh!
I don't think they can run without ventilation.
The combination of aluminum and seamless glass walls makes it look like a floating Apple store... With an iPad on top and an iPad mini on top of that (because Steve always needed one more thing). On one of the of the iPad-like floors there's a black spot about where the headphone jack would be, except it's on the wrong side.
Perhaps the 7 iMacs are for navigation and control -- clustered to run a custom version of Siri without a connection to the data center. This way he could steer the thing, ask for the weather report and open the glass bay doors using only voice commands.
Steve: "Siri, open the iPod bay doors."
Siri: "Insanely great. It's been a long time. Can you explain the removal of your user account on October 5th, 2011?"
As much as I dislike Apple, the company, they do have some smart looking gadgets. And they owe a lot of that to Steven Jobs, I'm sure. But that thing looks like the Staten Island Ferry. A nice one, but a ferry none the less.
I just went to Google, typed in yachts and hit image. There were some truly beautiful boats; sail and powered. Steve Jobs was NO boat designer.
....the first floating Apple Store.
Not at all. When men went to sea, the boat they were on, nurtured them and kept them safe from harm and alive.
When men aren't being stupid, they know women are the stronger sex. It is women they lean on when they are afraid. It seems only natural to think of that boat beneath their feet as a woman.
Ocean air is not the only corrosion to worry about. I've no clue what they intend to use to protect the alu hull with.
Story time folks, been told before but there may be new readers here.
In '59, I had the pleasure of being a bench tech, at a little place on Mission Bay called Oceanographic Engineering, helping to assemble the electronics for the 2 cameras that were mounted on the Trieste when it went down onto the mohole in the Pacific a few months later. The Navy had come in and bought the first 2 we made but instead of the cases we were going to use for towing them thru sewers to inspect the sewers, they gave us specs for a bronze case, with quartz windows they supplied. Designed to withstand about 25 kpsi, its 17 or 18 kpsi in the mohole. But they wanted to play a bit before the real show and asked us to make the first one out of 7078-T6 alu. It took us about 6 weeks to get a lathe that big AND accurate setup and we made the first case out of a 6" diameter alu rod about 2 feet long. Fixed it up with all the packing glands it would need. They picked up the whole kit on a smallish cruiser, 65' for so and took it out about 50 miles to give it a dunk test. We had sent it out and had the heaviest cad plate we could get put on it. They brought it back the next day and having been scratched by rolling around on the deck deep enough to penetrate the plating, and in one days time over the side and down about a thousand feet, those scratches came back to us 1/2" wide and an inch deep, just from being in the sea water for about 12 hours.
Needless to say, the real cases for the Trieste trip were cut from some special bronze that started out nearly 8" in diameter. The camera itself was 2.5" in diameter, so we bored a 3" hole for it in the bronze and padded it with weather stripping to hold it centered in the hole. Those 2 cameras, a rounded box with some relays in it to turn the stuff around and switch the lights, and the gondola of the Trieste were all that was pressure sealed, everything else was running at the ambient pressure which was considerable. Except for chewing thru the rubber diaphram separating the sea water from the oil in the pan & tilts for one of the cameras, that trip down with Picard and Walsh, it all worked. The P&T wasn't disabled & still worked when they came back up. With some very interesting pix I got to see a few of.
And Steve had it made with an ALU hull? 'scuse me, but... I predict it will spend a lot of time in dry-dock, getting patched. It likely won't last much longer than I will since I have a 78 year head start on it.
Cheers, Gene
It's a nice-looking yacht, to say the least, but it just doesn't offer the kind of functionality you'd expect in a full-fledged modern yacht, especially one for the yachting enthusiast. Really, it's like a large-scale Fischer-Price yacht, to tell the truth.
So incredibly funny that the family gave the ship builders ipod shuffles with thank you notes written in all-caps comic sans for building the thing. Everything in the article details it as incredibly well designed, sleek, and minimalist for the king of design... and then they give that note.. words cannot express how ironic and hilarious that is. And seriously... a shuffle? That looks like a > $100 million yacht.. they couldn't spring for normal ipods?
Btw.. the pic of the note is in the linked article.
I think they gave them one of those one things. You know. Those things. What're they called? It's right here on the tip of my tongue. I hate it when this happens. One of those one things. Ah-ha! I got it: a paycheck.
The card the the iPod are just thank you's. Going above and beyond. Ya putz.
You mean this?...
It was on the good ship Venus
By Christ, ya shoulda seen us
The figurehead was a whore in bed
And the mast, a mammoth penis
The Captain of this lugger
He was a dirty bugger
He wasn't fit to shovel shit
From one place to another
Friggin' in the riggin'
Friggin' in the riggin'
Friggin' in the riggin'
There was fuck all else to do
Captain's name was Morgan
By Christ, he was a gorgon
Ten times a day sweet tunes he'd play
With his fuckin' organ
The first mate's name was Cooper
By Christ, he was a trooper
He jerked and jerked until he worked
Himself into a stupor
Friggin' in the riggin'
Friggin' in the riggin'
Friggin' in the riggin'
There was fuck all else to do
The second mate was Andy
By Christ, he had a dandy
Till they crushed his cock on a jagged rock
For cumming in the brandy
The cabin boy was Flipper
He was a fuckin' nipper
He stuffed his ass with broken glass
And circumcised the skipper
Friggin' in the riggin'
Friggin' in the riggin'
Friggin' in the riggin'
There was fuck all else to do
Friggin' in the riggin'
Friggin' in the riggin'
Friggin' in the riggin'
There was fuck all else to do
The Captain's wife was Mabel
To fuck, she wasn't able
So the dirty shits, they nailed her tits
Across the barroom table
The Captain had a daughter
Who fell in deep sea water
And by her squeals we knew the eels
Had found her sexual quarters
Friggin' in the riggin'
Friggin' in the riggin'
Friggin' in the riggin'
There was fuck all else to do
Friggin' in the riggin'
Friggin' in the riggin'
Friggin' in the riggin'
There was fuck all else to do
Friggin' in the riggin' ...
Friggin' in the riggin'
Friggin' in the riggin'
There was fuck all else to do
I'm sure there's triple redundant navigation systems onboard. While the custom iMac thing is flashy, a backup Garmin or similar commercial system is only going to add $40-60,000 to the cost of the boat. The bridge (as well as the rest of the boat) is likely climate controlled (my friend's $15,000 sailboat is, at least) and corrosion is going to be pretty minimal over the 20 year lifespan of this boat (megayachts seem to have a pretty short lifespan for whatever reason; styles change).
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That the bridge has a 13 foot wide white surface with one silver coloured ball in the middle of it .. and no other instrumentation :)
I guess Samsung must own the patents on round-corners on a ship? Good luck selling that monstrosity. I don't think I've ever seen an ugly luxury yacht before. Consider this another pioneering achievement by Jobs. Blech!
I swear to God...I swear to God! That is NOT how you treat your human!
Even if I had all the money in the world, I wouldn't buy that boat. Instead, I'd hire people to figure out how one man can have "all the money in the world."
Looks worse than a Hunter to me,, I was on a 40 and a 54 years ago,, they did not have scary glass like this thing does. Bet whomever takes it back to the states brings a shitload of plywood just in case.
That flat blocky thing doesn't look like a seaworthy ship it looks like an overpriced houseboat, perfect for mooring in the San Francisco Bay, or, perhaps, the Mediterranean. It seems like another example of Steve Jobs letting aesthetics (ugly aesthetics, in this case) take precedence over function.
Starck is the very embodiment of style over substance. His products often look kinda striking or eye-catching, but they function incredibly poorly. The man is a charlatan who threw out the first rule of design: form follows function. A great artist might just about be able to get away with that, but the only person who puts Starck in that category is Starck.
He's no genius, just an egomaniac with the ability to fool a surprising number of people at least some of the time.
I wouldn't be surprised if this thing is sunk in the first rough seas it encounters, if its design is anything like as poor as his laughable lemon squeezer.
Can someone knowledgeable about boats and yachts tell me if it that is a good design for a yacht? I only know what I see on TV/movies/web/Bay area, so while I don't consider it as aesthetically pleasing as others I've seen (okay, I find in almost ugly), I would like to know if there is some sort of functional/minimalistic reason why that is a great boat (I don't "understand" most modern art either, so I'm curious if this is something along those lines that a trained designer might appreciate).
"Regardless of what may happen to her, she sure is a beauty."
No she isn't, she's hideous - a barge with a couple of boxes and some cardboard on top. Worse yet, with that straight bow and huge expanses of glass in the forepeak... she's not designed to keep the sea either. (And what kind of moron puts passenger spaces in the fo'c'sle anyhow? Other than a bunk slung between the mains, that's the worst part of the ship.)
She's obviously designed for nothing more than staying in calm waters or moored to impress the impressionable - an as a sailor, I say that's a abomination.
but I always thought the Astoria perfectly reflects Gilmours more laid back persona.
Also, corners not rounded.
Maybe it's been fitted with great big lumps of magnesium to corrode in preference. It's going to be softer stuff than the 7078 and less likely to get such large corrosion cells within the actual material (up to 6% zinc in the 7078 so you could probably almost run a light bulb between areas of the zinc rich phase and the rest in salt water).
On the other hand, maybe it's not really meant to last, the old tax dodge was to use luxury yachts as a way to transfer money from one country to another by building something stupidly expensive and selling it in a year or two at cost or a slight loss in a different country. I don't know if that loophole is still open in any countries.
Too bad it needs a proprietary port
I'm a huge fan of art deco.
That boat is not art deco.
It's kind of blocky like the Victory Monument in Bolzano, northern Italy which an example of fascist art style.
And it kind of reminds me of the wells fargo plaza which is an example of the brutalist style except it's made from aluminum instead of concrete. The wiki says that brutalist examples are typically very linear, fortresslike and blockish.
Art deco was full of life, color, cool little design bits while also been clean and elegant.
That monochromatic floating white iron has none of those qualities.
She was like chocolate when she drank... semi-sweet at first and then increasingly bitter.
Yeah it looks positively beautiful. When compared with a pile of steaming dog shit smeared into your living room carpet.
It looks ugly, it does not look like a seafaring vessel, but I may be mistaken. Ugly lines
Jobs cofounded a company that built useful things, occupied a position of influence in its industry, made many employees and stockholders wealthy, and satisfied many customers.
Romney did what for his money, again?
The Sex Pistols version almost certainly is.
Yeah, I had a sig once; I got bored of it.
Try as I might with these poor images, I can find only one hull. So many elegant multihull designs in recent decades and he has chosen a barge. It's not just speed that he's sacrificed, it's comfort, safety, fuel efficiency, ability to approach shallow water and, as so many have noticed, class.
...omphaloskepsis often...
Aren't various warships using aluminum hulls? Perhaps there is a better alloy?
I've sung "The Good Ship Venus" a few times, myself.
'Venus' is a head-turner/head-scratcher in the same way a person always looks at a Yorkshire Terrier doing #2 and wonders how it doesn't have its backside matted with dung.
1. It just does not look like it will be a good "sea-keeper", even with a slight turn near the bow.
2. The upright windows seem as though they will be hit bluntly by big seas, so must be quite strong.
3. There does not appear to be a way to wipe/wash the bridge windows, but they must have thought of that, surely.....
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To me, the hull looks brutalist, I would just call the rest of it modernist (and since brutalist is modernist too, that makes the whole thing modernist I guess).
Just as an aside, whenever I read someone saying something is Art Deco I just pretty much always substitute in Bauhaus. For some reason people seem to forget the ornamentation of Art Deco and just remember the shapes of the metal, glass and concrete.
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Russians like to refer to a boat or ship as "he"
Does that make you feel better?
lol
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Perhaps it's simpler than that. They loved women; they loved their ships. A backhanded complement to the ladies, methinks. Ever looked at figureheads? You'll find a lot of ladies, and generally very complementary artwork, too. Add that to the tendency to anthropomorphize things you depend upon, and... yep, seems pretty natural.
Ladies on ships of old would have been bad luck, too -- fights over them, rape, etc. Your average sailor didn't tend to come from the most cultured of roots, and privation doesn't tend to enhance behavior, either.
Just my opinion.
I've fallen off your lawn, and I can't get up.
Oh, that won't be a problem here. That thing has no style.
I've fallen off your lawn, and I can't get up.
I don't believe any one person deserves to be that rich.
its disgusting and the disparity is just too great, these days.
sorry, but its just disgusting. and I'm not at all referring to the stupid boat.
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Dude, come on, just look!
I've fallen off your lawn, and I can't get up.
Like most Apple iproducts the ibox it came in looks OK. When are they going to take the iyacht out of the box?
That they did. Old English had a neuter gender, but was frequently in contact with Romance languages that didn't, and Old English used gender in peculiar and exciting ways on its own anyway. The US Navy's Naval History & Heritage Command has a trivia page that corroborates the assumption that the ship is seen as something that is nurturing, but to be honest we can't say either way—for the most part, the origins of particular grammatical gender assignments are very ancient, and full of eccentricities we cannot hope to fathom.
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That ship shows Jobs' true design ability. The Apple products show the designer's ability, for which Jobs took credit.
I can safely state that boat design is an ancient craft. Most stuff is already though of. There's no pioneering going in in that department. No easy, "minimalistic" tricks you can pull off like in designing note books or tablets. You have to stick to the designing but like a blood hound. Get inspiration, try out dozens of variations, chuck out most of them and repeating the process until perfection is nearly obtained. That clearly never happened here. Improving boat design requires much more dedication and hard work than, say, improving the design of the IBM ThinkPad.
It seems that the modern hull is a wedge with a nearly flat bottom. Exactly like the images we see from the Venus. The structure performs well but is extremely dull. The structure on top of the hull is a testimony of poor imagination. The proportions just don't seem to match. Was the golden ratio respected at all?
I hadn't the slightest objection to his spending his time planning massacres for the bourgeoisie... (P.G. Wodehouse)
It's a giant floating Apple store. Very creative...
That thing is ugly, I would have thought he would have had a super sleek power yacht, not some 1930's throwback looking thing,
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In bikeforums.net, there is a thread called "Jackass bikes", where people post pics of bicycles put together in the least practical and at the same time most aesthetically misguided ways. These bikes usually sport expensive components, some costing thousands of $s.
Well, this boat belongs to that thread. Expensive, impractical for the stated purpose and ugly.
"The agriculture ministry is not in charge of Gundam" - Japanese ministry official.
In '59, I had the pleasure of being a bench tech, at a little place on Mission Bay called Oceanographic Engineering, helping to assemble the electronics for the 2 cameras that were mounted on the Trieste when it went down onto the mohole in the Pacific a few months later.
You worked on the Trieste? F#ck, you're hardcore. I'm so jealous....
Do you have a website/blog where you present some of your memories from that time?
"The agriculture ministry is not in charge of Gundam" - Japanese ministry official.
It's funny how children like you assign some kind of great validation to the act of sexual intercourse. It's as though you believe it to be some mystical thing that only happens to a select few of the chosen elite.
This might be a huge shock to you, but it's not. Attractive, ugly, skinny, fat, young, old, smart, stupid, rich, poor, good, evil; it's extraordinarily easy to "get some" no matter who you are. That fact that you seem unaware of this is indicative of your own immaturity.
Now I like Apple stuff, I like the aesthetics of Apple stuff but...
my god is this boat ugly. It looks like a Frank Lloyd Wright designed house that floats, and Frank Lloyd Wright designed some of the most hideous buildings in the world.
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It looks like a boat designed by two people who weren't actually interested in boats or why good ones look the way they do. Let's just hope for the crew's sake that a proper marine architect was engaged for all the bits below the waterline.
From scarped cliff or quarried stone she cries "A thousand types are gone, I care for nothing, no not one."
If there is anything which is an aesthetic offence on the water, it is the Eurostyle powerboat. By the 1930s, with the exception of some aspects of underwater design, pretty much everything was known about how to design a power boat. My wife's grandfather was an officer on the Cutty Sark, which was an early 20th century sailing ship, and already they had composite construction and remarkably good performance. The use of alumin(i)um post WW2 has made quite a difference to boat design, but not always for the better (it doesn't lend itself to the same fair curves as plank construction). So "Throwback to the 30's"? Hardly. It looks more like a post-WW2 German river cruiser.
From scarped cliff or quarried stone she cries "A thousand types are gone, I care for nothing, no not one."
Actually, the first thing that came to my mind was "looks like one of those new stealth frigates or destroyers". Perhaps if Jobs were still alive, he could pick up movie actresses with it. "Hey, baby, you like to check my new star destroyer, nudge nudge, wink wink?" ;-)
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Ocean air is not the only corrosion to worry about. I've no clue what they intend to use to protect the alu hull with....
Wow, for someone with such experience you seem to not know much about boats. Aluminium is quite a common material to make boats with, just google "aluminium boat" if you need more info.
It's official: Steve Jobs had an unhealthy obsession with aluminum. And glass.
I prefer this. I expected something like this. 3 turbine engines. Not that ugly thing above.
Ships are male in German, and Russian too IIRC.
I have never seen a yacht that ugly in my live. It is breathtaking. True. But in the opposite direction. We should paint on it "Sink different!"
It ain't just Steve Jobs/Apple, had the PC become owned by IBM, Atari, Commodore and god knows who else (japan had its own eco-structure and it becomes more and more obvious as the world gets smaller that back then every country had their own home computer brand), IT would have looked very different. ALL those companies were about owning the entire market, from the computers themselves (go buy a Commodore from Compaq) to the storage media, the joysticks EVERYTHING.
It is thanks to Compaq, MS and Intel (and the "failures" of the rest) that we got this accidentally remarkably open platform. Apple sold expensive PC's, thanks to Compaq creation of the IBM-compatible, we got cheap PC's and thanks to those who cloned Compaq's we got EVEN cheaper PC's. Some might point out the Apple Mini but Apple would NEVER have produced that IF they didn't have to because of cheap PC's. Proof? Apple didn't produce them when there weren't any cheap PC's. That is why Apple almost went bust the first time around.
Thanks to MS we got an OS that would work ACROSS cpu's... yes i know AMD and Intel both made X86 but if you think that makes them automatically fully compatible in all but their most base modes, you are a silly person. And this gave buyers, a CHOICE. Apple/Atari/IBM never gave you a choice. You buy what they choose to sell you. Intel thought 33mhz was enough for the 386(if I remember correctly) and AMD made a 40mhz version and people could choose. Could choose NOT to buy IBM or Dell or Compaq and roll their own.
It all happened by accident and thank god for it, wintel was/isn;t perfect but we narrowly avoided situations that would have been far far worse.
But that doesn't mean we are saved. The openess and freedom of the PC and internet might have come around by accident but that doesn't mean it can change.
Bootcamp, was that introduced because Apple wanted you to be able to use the OS of your choice or because they knew that if people couldn't run Windows on a Mac, they would sell fewer Mac's? I seen an amazing amount of Macbooks with the Aero design on the desktop.
Closed architectures are not just limited to niche attempts like Linux. If a mono-culture exists, control becomes easy. The US is rather famous for NOT having state censorship for TV such as England has. Instead, the TV broadcasters "choose" to censor themselves and no politician has to stand up and say"I want to limit free speech" but can "think of the children" thanks to self-censorship.
There have been countless stories of mega-stores in the US censoring products. Walmart censoring music CD's, App store refusing to carry apps. This doesn't matter, as long as a free alternative exist, the internet in general. But as AOL has shown and MS network and countless other attempts, there is a constant push to create walled gardens. And a walled garden isn't that bad, as long as you can get out with relative ease but nobody builds a walled garden with the idea that people should be able to get out easily.
When mega-stores are the only places to shop, their control becomes extremely risky to a free society. And with the app-store, Apple and Steve Jobs have given everyone who values real freedom a frightening look at how IT could have turned out if Jobs had sold cheaper PC's.
Jobs has the most depressing eulogy you could think off: "Thank god the man was a failure at the most critical time". And we can only pray that it remains true because if the app-store walled garden approach succeeds in W8 new app-store, the PC environment as we know it, is doomed.
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Without knowing more about the vessel, if that is not too rich a word, I'd say that this is a perfect demonstration of why designers are not meant to be engineers. It's like some of these buildings that went up after the 60s, which won awards for their 'bold architecture' and 'innovative design', but which turned out to be instant slum, because they were not really made to be lived in.
In Britain this would be called a "gin palace", designed to be shown off in the harbours of Monaco and the south of France but rarely taken to sea except by ship delivery companies.
Reminiscent of Jabba the Hutt's barge from ROTJ. "Bring me Solo and the Wookiee. They will all suffer for this outrage", LOL
You can take it to Shipyard(r) approved waters only. It's not meant for sea or ocean. And only if You hold the steering wheel correctly.
Looks like someone chopped off the back 3rd of the USS Maine.
There are some people that if they don't know, you can't tell 'em.
Wow, for someone with such experience you seem to not know much about boats. Aluminium is quite a common material to make boats with, just google "aluminium boat" if you need more info.
I am not the person you're replying to, but I did google for aluminum ships. This was the first hit in my list.
Quoting the article:
You can't make this stuff up: the Navy concedes the first vessel in its latest fleet of warships - the 18-month old USS Independence (not to be confused with the late aircraft carrier sporting the same name) - is suffering from "aggressive" corrosion.
"The agriculture ministry is not in charge of Gundam" - Japanese ministry official.
It in fact has graceful and classic lines reminiscent of the Art Deco movement of the 1920's.
There really should be a "-1 factually incorrect" mod option on slashdot. That boat is nothing like art deco. You presumably just saw a picture of something art deco and white once and thought that anything white must be art deco.
As other comments below say, it's more like some brutalist 60s creation.
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To me it looks like a yacht designed to stay in a harbor and entertain guests with a occasional flat water cruise. If it looked something like a Ulstein X-bow then we would know that it is a serious bad weather vessel.
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. For starters, women weren't even allowed aboard because (the belief was) they brought bad luck
If you isolate a mostly male crew and keep them celibate for a few months, I can see how having a few women in the mix could bring ... bad luck. OK, so luck is not the correct term, but it would be bad for the women, the men and the vessel. Calling it bad luck would ensure that people followed the advice.
Wash the bridge windows? Stand on the roof and pee on them.... Lager, rinse,repeat.
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I heard the engine room is welded shut, you know, to make it thinner, so if the starting battery needs replacement you have to buy a whole new boat.
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Contrary to what almost everyone else here thinks, I think it's a striking, beautiful design. And no, I'm not an Apple fanboi, I haven't owned a single Apple product in my life and I'm not particularly interested in them. But I can appreciate the design, or should I say architecture, of this yacht.
You are, of course, entitled to your opinion, in the same way that you are at liberty to believe in a Flat Earth.
To have a right to do a thing is not at all the same as to be right in doing it
In fresh water, yes. Great boats till the rivets start leaking in 25-30 years. Salt water OTOH, is very corrosive to aluminium which I usually shorten to alu.
I was thinking V should have been a P.
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I find the lack of faith in this story... disturbing.
If you were blocking sigs, you wouldn't have to read this.
...this was funded by all those iPads and iMacs and iPhones I saw at the OWS protests.
Ah, delicious irony.
-Styopa
I don't know. But it's surely in the running for that label.
Want to see a breathtaking and beautiful yacht...
The Maltese Falcon
http://yachtpals.com/maltese-falcon-7053
There are not many modern vessels that can rival her lines, grace and sleekness. And she boats the most advanced sail system ever.
Yacht? Looks more like a junk to me.
I personally think it looks horrible, it's a big triangle, it looks like a mac book case and overall it bulky and retro styled in a bad way. I would of expected to see something like this in an old star trek episode as a "future yacht", I would never of thought that anyone would build a massive yacht and make this ugly on purpose.
Does it use Apple Maps? Because it's likely already a wreck if so...
Lots of Chinese workers got paid very little so that he could have that.
Jobs was a selfish bastard.
I'm sick of trying to be part of the solution. I'm going to become part of the problem.
I'm going to get me a Hummer- not the newer, tiny ones, one of the big old ones, and have it converted to burn a mixture of rubber from tires, motor oil, and coal. I wanna leave a trail of thick, black smoke everywhere I go.
That actually the Navy's penny pinching stupidity they didn't want to pay for the advanced anti-corrosion system the ship designers called for so now the ship is slowly dissolving
Ships are male in German
Umm... no. "Das Schiff" or "das Boot" are neuter. (OK, so there is "der Kahn" (the barge) which is masculine.)
But many Ships have female names. Then they are referred to as female.
I'm looking forward to seeing this appear in a James Bond movie.
Would that be the 'Philippe Starck' who turned the Eurostar lounges into barbers' salons? All aboard for the Skylark, Starck!
They will end up converting it into an offshore iMac shop and parking it next to the Queen Mary.. mark my words..
Have you fscked your local propeller head today?
The card the the iPod are just thank you's. Going above and beyond. Ya putz.
The Jobs could have gone above and beyond in the thank you department also.
I've seen bigger tips left for hotel cleaning crews.
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I don't know, this makes the Jobs family look like the biggest group of douches in history.
I've said it before that usually when some rich billionaire dies of some kind of disease, there is usually some kind of center for research that the family declares in his honour. I've heard nothing, no donations, nothing from Apple or the Jobs family about giving some of them billions into research that might help prevent other families suffer the results of cancer.
Instead the family happily reveals a superfluous yacht. What a bunch of douches.
Why do people love this company? The create inhuman working conditions so they can produce their devices a 2 - 5x profit margin, rake in billions in profit and then hoard the money away giving absolutely nothing back to society. Yet Bill Gates, who has focused his life to philanthropy, giving away billions, is regarded as an asshole.
I haven't thought of anything clever to put here, but then again most of you haven't either.
... of a taller USS Monitor: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Monitor
I'm very happy with how my Windows money is being spent.
Considering that you don't know the size of the paycheck, you can't really judge them on the size of the gift. Who knows, maybe the shipbuilders really wanted iPods. I know I'd rather have one than an iPad myself, and it's a thank you gift, not a gratuity.
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To be honest, it looks more like a river cruiser than a blue water international cruiser. Maybe he intended it to drift around a local lake?
Probably the only viable use for this ship is to dock it at Monterey and make it a $30 admission museum dedicated to Steve Jobs's ego.
Seriously, it's a winning business model, assuming the ship will be purchased for $1 over scrap value.
My God, it's Full of Source!
OUTSIDE_IP=$(dig +short my.ip @outsideip.net)
He couldn't have spent his money to help poor children in Africa like that nice Mr Rosoft?
Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
I remember him giving tours where he replaced traditional wall paintings with plasma tv (only 512p at the time). Sometimes tech is NOT the replacement for everything.
Aluminum is flammable - get a good roaring fire going (a distinct possibility on a warship) and bad things happen..
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Belknap_(CG-26)
Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored. - Aldous Huxley
I always tried to imagine what a ship designed like a "sleek white running shoe" would look like...that pretty much nails it. Sure, the product literature yaps on about "infinity symbols", but I can see better..
Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored. - Aldous Huxley
I've sung "The Good Ship Venus" a few times, myself.
'Venus' is a head-turner/head-scratcher in the same way a person always looks at a Yorkshire Terrier doing #2 and wonders how it doesn't have its backside matted with dung.
1. It just does not look like it will be a good "sea-keeper", even with a slight turn near the bow.
2. The upright windows seem as though they will be hit bluntly by big seas, so must be quite strong.
3. There does not appear to be a way to wipe/wash the bridge windows, but they must have thought of that, surely.....
Im sure it is designed to sail on the iSeas.
That was my impression too (I worked for a bit in the shipbuilding business). It looks like what you get when you give artistic designers too much control - a triumph of form over function. It may appeal to people's tastes in aesthetics, but no way would I want to ride it out in moderate to heavy seas.
And they named her Venus.
It might be spelled "Venus, the luxury yacht", but it's pronounced "Throatwarbler mangrove".
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I think Steve should have kept to his creative process of letting Jony Ive do all the heavy lifting and he just rubber stamping his imprimateur on the design.
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Who get to decide that, you?
Apparently so, going by the comments in this thread.
Not at all. When men went to sea, the boat they were on, nurtured them and kept them safe from harm and alive.
When men aren't being stupid, they know women are the stronger sex. It is women they lean on when they are afraid. It seems only natural to think of that boat beneath their feet as a woman.
This is such a great example of normalizing a purely cultural phenomenon via imaginary biology that I feel obliged to point out that in Soviet Russia (and in post-Soviet Russia, too) ships are refered to using the masculine pronoun.
Blasphemy is a human right. Blasphemophobia kills.
Apparently the Navy is having problems with aluminum hulls.
... the Navy has discovered “aggressive” corrosion around Independence‘s engines. The problem is so bad that the barely year-old ship will have to be laid up in a San Diego drydock so workers can replace whole chunks of her hull.
In contrast to the first LCS, the steel-hulled USS Freedom, Independence is made mostly of aluminum. And that’s one root of the ship’s ailment ... Lots of things — major weapons, for one — have been left off the LCS in order to keep the price down. The list of deleted items includes something called a “Cathodic Protection System,” which is designed to prevent electrolysis."
"Builder Blames Navy as Brand-New Warship Disintegrates [June 23, 2011]
http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2011/06/shipbuilder-blames-navy-as-brand-new-warship-disintegrates/
All I can recall is the disappointment that occurred between the time I read the story and clicked on the link (anticipating a dreamy design of some sleek, yet-unseen and heretofore stunningly futuristic spaceship of the waters) and the first-glance impression when looking at the photos ("is this some sort of practical joke... structure looks like some gazebo-thing made out of Lego blocks with its square top... so totally, repulsively ugly not to mention impractical on the ocean"). Maybe it has some redeeming values somewhere else, but wow! That's a pretty amazing feat to design something that instantly feels this ugly.
... 'thing'
On thinking about it a bit more, it did bring to mind the one-of-a-kind aircraft that Howard Hughes built, a monstrosity that he even managed to fly once, the Spruce Goose. But looking at it side-to-side, the biggest bird ever built seems fairly normal compared to this anomalous-looking
Renamed "Steve's Folly', it will probably stay moored at some museum or other. Might just be the right kind of curiosity piece for Paul Allen to add to his collection.
Real men build sky yachts.
If not us, who? If not now, when?
What happened Steve? That boat isn't nearly cool enough looking to be something you came up with. Not often someone artistic in one area can translate into another area like ship building. I would have started with something like Ellison's Ronin. Cross with a Aegis cruiser. Doesn't matter, we'll remember you for the company and that hot chick in red shorts in the 1984 commercial.
In my younger days I spent many an hour at sea as a commercial herring fisherman off the coast of British Columbia. Skiffs used in the herring industry, while varying slightly in design, are all made entirely from aluminum. You can see many examples of such boats here.
I have no recollection of corrosion being a big issue. I assume there are aluminum alloys that make it resistant to corrosion the way that adding chromium to steel makes it "stainless".
Jobs, the Great Man of Style and form before function, bought a luxury barge.
I'm guessing the iYot's glass breaks much sooner than it should. Same goes for the hull. Aluminum is more appropriate for AAVs and jonboats. But I guess 7 or 8 knots would be OK for it.
I disagree with the comment about looking like a 3rd grader drew it. 3rd graders generally do much better than that. The Navy's experimental stealth ship was more graceful in appearance. I can just hear Old Money snickering something about the Nouveau Riche.
Have gnu, will travel.
I see his point -- it's '20s, but it isn't Bauhaus. It's Corb.
Fingerprints of the Villa Stein at Garches are all over the design. Lots of other Corbusian tropes.
"International Style" -- a few other potential aspects; a little Mies/Barcelona, a little Incinerated House -- you find the precedents.
It occurs to me that the design suffers from being extensively done from plan and elevation; as one of my former professors would say 'there was no model'... The thing works in side and end elevation, but as noted in front-quarter view it looks like a big triangle. (But not as surprising as the bows-on view of Intrepid!)
Yah, iconic over utilitarian. But... would Feadship have designed a wallowing, unseaworthy monstrosity? For ANY amount of shut-up-and-just-build-it money?
Last I looked, Feadship was a reputable builder, and wouldn't build a modern-day Vasa.
I think some of this design is analogous to a trend in modern architecture: using technological wizardry to build wacky-looking things so they are safe and effective. Much of Frank Gehry's stuff (just to name a convenient whipping-boy) would be dangerously unstable if a great amount of very careful thinking hadn't been put into making the paper drawing into as-built structure.
Having said that -- in both architecture and ship design there have been some interesting structural whoppers when the clever engineering falls short (skybridges and large White Star staircases, anyone?) It remains to be seen if the great white star destroyer actually suffers from the variety of problems that many posters so far have presumed.
For a man who loved rounded corners it does feel very...square
It's OK that you have an irrational hate of Steve Jobs, yes he stole your girl in Jr. High, but maybe it's time to get over it?
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