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Nerval's Lobster writes "If the rumors are true, and Apple is indeed hard at work on a newfangled timepiece (dubbed the 'iWatch'), what unique features could such a device offer a public already overloaded with all sorts of handheld devices? Answer that question, and you're perhaps one step closer to figuring out why Apple — again, if the rumors are true — decided to devote millions of dollars and the precious hours of some very smart people in the effort. This article suggests voice control (via Siri), biometrics, mobile payments, and other possible features, but there must be loads of others that someone could think up."

322 comments

  1. Obvious by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Track masturbatory habits.

  2. Low cost solution by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Last gen Iphone + duct tape.

  3. Time? by addie · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Hopefully the ability to accurately tell time. But with the way phones these days work at making calls, I won't hold out much hope.

    The whole idea of an iWatch just gives me a headache.

    1. Re:Time? by JustOK · · Score: 5, Funny

      You're wearing it wrong.

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    2. Re:Time? by _xeno_ · · Score: 0, Troll

      Hopefully the ability to accurately tell time. But with the way phones these days work at making calls, I won't hold out much hope.

      Funny you should mention it, because the iPhone keeps horrible time. Which is weird, because as I understand it, GPS requires accurate timekeeping, which means that anything with a GPS chip in it can get a very accurate time. I know that my GPS-enabled camera is capable of setting its own time off of GPS.

      The iPhone, on the other hand, ignores its own GPS chip in favor - well, who knows. Apple doesn't say. All I know is that the reported iPhone time is generally anywhere from a couple of seconds to over a minute off the time reported from an NTP-synced computer.

      If they're planning on making it just be a "smaller iPhone" then it probably really will be a watch that can't keep accurate time.

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    3. Re:Time? by avandesande · · Score: 1

      The idea is pretty dumb. The only way I can see this being useful was if the watch acted like a second screen to you ipad or iphone. I really don't see the value in a standalone device.

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    4. Re:Time? by crazyjj · · Score: 1

      Me: Siri, what time is it?

      Siri: Okay, I'm playing Morris Day and the Time, Jungle Love...

      Me: No, what TIME IS IT?

      Siri: The time in London is now 9:03 p.m.

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    5. Re:Time? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      i hear this sometimes but i don't really get it. i've never had a problem with call quality on my iphone. is this really that big a deal? do people even USE the phone feature all that much anymore?

    6. Re:Time? by gstoddart · · Score: 3, Informative

      All I know is that the reported iPhone time is generally anywhere from a couple of seconds to over a minute off the time reported from an NTP-synced computer.

      I can't speak to an iPhone, but I know my cell phone takes its time from the actual carrier.

      So it's well within the bounds of reason that yours is doing the same -- and if your carrier is using a clock which is slightly different from your NTP-synced computer, that could account for the drift.

      One of the things that's really nice about that, is when I travel it picks up local time and I don't need to set it.

      And, slightly more on topic ... I'm clearly not the target market for this product. I can't figure out why I'd want a voice activated watch, or biometrics, or mobile payments on my watch. Then again, I wouldn't want those features on my cell phone either. This just feels like one of those technology for the sake of it products.

      I'm sure there's features a lot of people will say are the coolest ever and be willing to plunk down money for it. Me, I prefer a device meant to do one thing well instead of 10 things half-assed -- which is why I own actual cameras, music players, and GPS nav units instead of something which kinda does most of those things.

      It's cool in a Dick Tracy kind of way, but I prefer my watches to just be watches.

      Of course, I'm sure "hey baby, want to see my iWatch" would be an awesome pickup line. So there is that. ;-)

      But, as much as I absolutely hate the term, the iWatch and iPhone combo seems like it would be a flashing sign that says "hipster douchebag".

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    7. Re:Time? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you have a need to know the time accurately to within +/- 1 minute, what are you doing? I like my watch with a blank face and just the 2 hands. Anything more accurate than that seems superfluous to me.

    8. Re:Time? by TheNinjaroach · · Score: 1

      I recently picked up an iPhone - it seems to get its time just like every other phone I've ever had: straight from the carrier.

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    9. Re:Time? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      GSM requires a very accurate timesync between the tower and the phone. The problem is that the tower isn't always correct, but that's where the time is coming from usually.

    10. Re:Time? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You must mumble, because I don't have a problem whenever I've asked Siri the time.

    11. Re:Time? by Obfuscant · · Score: 3, Informative
      Sony came out with this kind of thing several years ago for the Ericsson phones, called Liveview. It was basically a remote display for the phone using bluetooth. I bought one assuming it would work on Android phones in general, and of course it didn't.

      It was supposed to support things like Facebook and show you email alerts, along with being a basic watch. It came with a watchband and a clip housing, one of which (I forget which) completely covered the USB charging port and you had to pop it out to plug it in. It was almost working as a watch, but the limited button UI was a mess and difficult to remember/use.

      Interesting concept, poor implementation.

      What is most important is that it show the time (synced to the local phone network so it is accurate). Second would be incoming SMS/email (so you don't have to pull a phone out of your pocket to get messages.) Music player control. It has to have an inductive charger plus a standard USB, so you can recharge it away from home or just drop it on the charging pad at night when you aren't.

    12. Re:Time? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Care to cite where the iPhone keeps horrible time? My understanding is that most cell phones, at least within the US, have their time delivered by local cell towers.

    13. Re:Time? by Obfuscant · · Score: 1

      I can't speak to an iPhone, but I know my cell phone takes its time from the actual carrier. So it's well within the bounds of reason that yours is doing the same -- and if your carrier is using a clock which is slightly different from your NTP-synced computer, that could account for the drift.

      I can't imagine a cell phone not getting its time from the carrier. I also can't imagine that they'd be a minute off of real time. I do remember that T-Mobile in my area was about six seconds off, though, just enough to piss me off and make me turn off automatic time updates. Perhaps the iPhone in question has had automatic time updating turned off?

    14. Re:Time? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

      You must mumble, because I don't have a problem whenever I've asked Siri the time.

      That's so odd. When I ask "Siri, do you have the time?" I always get "Not for a man like you."

    15. Re:Time? by dintech · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Considering their track record with DST changes affecting alarms, especially around iOS updates, I don't trust Apple to make a timepiece you can rely on.

    16. Re:Time? by Rude+Turnip · · Score: 2

      I have a phone for telling time. I'd want a watch that does something different.

    17. Re:Time? by Snotnose · · Score: 3, Informative

      I can't speak to an iPhone, but I know my cell phone takes its time from the actual carrier.

      If you have CDMA your phone needs to be within something like 10 milliseconds of the carrier's time. I imagine GSM has similar requirements.

    18. Re:Time? by ericloewe · · Score: 1

      iOS is excellent at keeping track of time, as far as I've seen. It's pretty horrible (by 21st century software standards) at correctly reacting to sudden changes in time that are expected and break pretty much no software.

      As for GPS, a receiver only has to compare the times reported by the individual satellites, not keep atomic-accuracy time.

      The issue is a bit trickier for TDMA, used by GSM, which does require decent time-keeping, but I'm guessing not much can go wrong with implementations of GSM, considering its age.

    19. Re:Time? by alexander_686 · · Score: 1

      I can't figure out why I'd want a voice activated watch, or biometrics, or mobile payments on my watch. ... Me, I prefer a device meant to do one thing well instead of 10 things half-assed

      I mostly agree with you – except the biometric data. For biometric data you would be wearing a device most of the time. Why wear a biometric device that looks like a watch and a watch? (On the other hand, the only good biometric data I could imagine it getting would be pulse. Maybe temp but I don’t think that would be valuable data.)

    20. Re:Time? by alen · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Take a look at Nike fuelband and pebble smartwatch

      It's a watch, biking computer, biometric device, you use it while working out, etc

      It's for people who do more than sit in front of computer screens all day and night

    21. Re:Time? by Altus · · Score: 1

      my watch doesn't manage DST at all.

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    22. Re:Time? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Make phone calls?

    23. Re:Time? by isopropanol · · Score: 1

      Blood oxygenation as well. Very handy info to have if you need it, but if you need it you probably should be in the hospital.

    24. Re:Time? by JonBoy47 · · Score: 1

      iPhone gives you the option to turn time update on or off in the settings app. If turned on, the phone updates time from the carrier network. http://support.apple.com/kb/TS3920 I used to use a BlackBerry Bold 9650. That phone gave me the option to sync time to the BIS (BlackBerry Internet Service) my carrier, or not at all...

    25. Re:Time? by JonBoy47 · · Score: 2

      Or here: http://manuals.info.apple.com/en_US/iphone_user_guide.pdf From pg. 138: "Set whether iPhone updates the date and time automatically: Go to Settings > General > Date & Time, then turn Set Automatically on or off. If you set iPhone to update the time automatically, it gets the correct time over the cellular network and updates it for the time zone you’re in. Some carriers don’t support network time, so in some areas iPhone may not be able to automatically determine the local time.

    26. Re:Time? by dgatwood · · Score: 4, Informative

      The time stamp used in CDMA packets doesn't have anything to do with the OS-level system clock. You certainly could synchronize the system clock to a time value provided by the cellular chipset, but there's no inherent reason that you must do so. The time being shown on the phone's screen could say 3:00 last year and it still wouldn't affect telephony. :-)

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    27. Re:Time? by niftydude · · Score: 1

      Hopefully the ability to accurately tell time.

      Funny you mention this. My Sony smartwatch can't tell time if it loses bluetooth contact to the phone. Incredibly annoying.

      Also, the craptacular LCD screen is not readable in normal daylight - making it completely useless for the reason I bought it (pace tracking through my phone's gps when exercising).

      I've been boycotting Sony for about a decade, but this bit of tech sucked me in because no one else yet made anything like it. I've learnt my lesson this time though. No more Sony.

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    28. Re: Time? by mevets · · Score: 1

      | Interesting concept, poor implementation.

      What could be more Sony than that?

    29. Re:Time? by lister+king+of+smeg · · Score: 1

      Hopefully the ability to accurately tell time. But with the way phones these days work at making calls, I won't hold out much hope.

      Funny you should mention it, because the iPhone keeps horrible time. Which is weird, because as I understand it, GPS requires accurate timekeeping, which means that anything with a GPS chip in it can get a very accurate time. I know that my GPS-enabled camera is capable of setting its own time off of GPS.

      The iPhone, on the other hand, ignores its own GPS chip in favor - well, who knows. Apple doesn't say. All I know is that the reported iPhone time is generally anywhere from a couple of seconds to over a minute off the time reported from an NTP-synced computer.

      If they're planning on making it just be a "smaller iPhone" then it probably really will be a watch that can't keep accurate time.

      A) gps requires accurate time,
      B) iphone won't use the gps clock, going for its own less accurate timepiece
      C) people end up lost using apple maps for directions,
      coincidence i think not.

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    30. Re:Time? by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 1

      Care to cite where the iPhone keeps horrible time?

      If you are the typical I-anything hater, you know the iPhone keeps terrible time, makes nightly phone calls to a datacenter in North Korea that steals your credit card numbers, makes your dog run away, your beer go flat, and causes your milch cows to dry up,

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    31. Re:Time? by c++0xFF · · Score: 2

      And therefore you manage it yourself.

      The problem is if you trust your watch to do the right thing, but then it turns around and messes up. That's worse than just doing it yourself.

    32. Re:Time? by countach · · Score: 1

      If you want the dead accurate time on your iPhone, get an app called Emerald Sequoia.

    33. Re: Time? by DeadS0ul · · Score: 1

      I got the sony smartwatch. it's the follow up to liveview, and it's not bad for what it does and it's price point. Only problem I have with it is the non standard usb cable it comes with.

    34. Re:Time? by ahabswhale · · Score: 1

      I would say that if the main feature of this device is time telling and alarms, they have completely failed already. If this is even real, I doubt it will be anything remotely like a watch. It's the limited imagination of people who read this story that leads to premature disappointment.

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    35. Re:Time? by rtb61 · · Score: 1

      Smart watch, a device that keeps track of your smart phone, knows where it is, can find it for you, attaches too it to make carrying a large screen smart phone easier regardless of the clothes you are wearing, waterproofs the smart phone letting you take a dip while still carrying it and makes sure you want drop your smart phone. Smart watch, watches your phone for you ;D.

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    36. Re:Time? by hcs_$reboot · · Score: 1

      On the opposite, with all the buzz that surrounded the bugs Apple is likely to have fixed it for good. Disclaimer: not a fanboy

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    37. Re:Time? by Omestes · · Score: 1

      I live in AZ. I HATE things that try to be smart with DST. For awhile, I had to throw out atomic clock syncing alarm clocks yearly, the second that everything decided I should magically wake up an hour late or early because the rest of the US decided on a stupid time system that makes no sense.

      That said, I love my phone. Its smart enough to track time, but also smart enough not to make default assumptions.

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    38. Re:Time? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's for people who do more than sit in front of computer screens all day and night

      So, nobody at slashdot wants one.

    39. Re:Time? by GPLHost-Thomas · · Score: 1

      Which is weird, because as I understand it, GPS requires accurate timekeeping, which means that anything with a GPS chip in it can get a very accurate time.

      You got it nearly right. It's not that GPS requires accurate timekeeping, it's that the only thing which the GPS satellites are sending is time.

      Since you receive many satellites signal, and you know roughly how far they should be from you, you can tell with a very accurate precision what time it is. With some (not so complicated) calculation, you can then tell how much time it took for the signal to go from the satellite to your GPS receiver. Convert the time for the signal to travel into a distance, and with a bit of math (eg: the signal always travels at the same speed), triangulate this with all the 12 satellites which you can receive (every modern GPS receiver can receive 12 channels), and bingo, you got your position.

      So yeah, the most accurate thing you get from a GPS chip is the time of the day, with an extreme accuracy. The least accurate thing is the elevation (typically, 100m accuracy for consumer products).

    40. Re:Time? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A watch? How quaint! I haven't worn a watch in over a decade. My phone is my pocket watch. Now, if my watch could make phone calls like Dick Tracy's watch, I'd probably get one, especially if it also played MP3s.

    41. Re:Time? by GPLHost-Thomas · · Score: 1

      A) gps requires accurate time

      Quite not. With a GPS, you receive a very accurate time information from the GPS satellite. That's by the way the only thing which the satellites are sending to you, and you have 12 of them sending you that information (your position is calculated by telling how much time it took for the signal to reach you).

    42. Re:Time? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      OK. Who is *hearing* me? Next watches, next rings, then HIGHER MAGICS: VANISHED. Applaud the magician... You are really NOT THINKING that Church and premiedieval are prevailing along with genocide and massacre. In the USA. It is what I am watching and living. Just ask your eternal live session musicians in radio with the same three songs. Danilo J Bonsignore

  4. MyBasis by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Well, for starters, how about everything that the Basis has?

  5. A mirror with great battery life! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I think it would be nice to pretty much just have a mirror of the actual device. Almost like remote desktop for the phone in your pocket.

    Maybe a few buttons that do extra things.

  6. working GPS and maps.... by who_stole_my_kidneys · · Score: 3, Interesting

    it should work better than a compass , If im in the woods it should be able to tell me where i am and how to get home if Im lost. and a incredibly long battery life.

    1. Re:working GPS and maps.... by PhuFighter · · Score: 1

      I definitely agree with this - except for the fact that the typical hipster won't be in the woods. Although they'd likely get lost if in one. Having a magnetometer, compass, and tie-in to Apple Maps so that there's augmented reality would be a great feature. Imagine setting what you want to go to on your iphone, put it in your pocket, and can navigate to your destination. Along the way, have some notifications (e.g. email/fb/etc), etc. as needed. Perhaps a Google Now like features? come to think of it, having google now on a watch would be brilliant.

    2. Re:working GPS and maps.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      i don't like your chances if it's using apple maps.

  7. Steve Jobs' Voice... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...screaming at you every waking moment of the day.

  8. Chemical sensors by i+kan+reed · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I would love sciency things like being able to determine ozone levels, pH of the air, nitrogen/oxygen mix, alcohol detection. But that's why I'm not in charge of choosing sensors for phones.

    1. Re:Chemical sensors by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Fart detector. With range finder so no one can hide from thier dishoner!
      Fart BURN!!

    2. Re:Chemical sensors by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes you could extend it to health checks, rather than taking a stool sample to your doctor you could just submerge your arm up past the watch into the toilet before flushing to have the watch check it all out for you

    3. Re:Chemical sensors by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You can already get apps that check your pulse by detecting color changes using your phone's light and camera. I'll bet there's more they could do without much difficulty.

    4. Re:Chemical sensors by crutchy · · Score: 1

      or just shove your phone up your ass

  9. Razor sharp constricting iris in band... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Funny

    ...in case you ever pick up an Android device.

    1. Re:Razor sharp constricting iris in band... by crutchy · · Score: 1

      or an appendage shaped like steve jobs' knob

  10. Bluetooth! by bobthesungeek76036 · · Score: 3, Funny

    Everything is better with Bluetooth!

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      No, no. Everything's better with cool hwip. Mmm. Cool hwip...

  11. Companion handset by Lije+Baley · · Score: 2

    A good smart watch needs a bluetooth handset that looks like an ordinary cell phone. You could use it for voice calls, so as not to look like "that dork talking into his Dick Tracy wrist phone".
    But I suppose people talking to their wrists would at least be slightly less annoying than the bluetooth earpiece people who are indistinguishable from the mentally ill when encountered on a city sidewalk.

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    1. Re:Companion handset by MyFirstNameIsPaul · · Score: 1

      Has something been done to reduce bluetooth device power consumption? Otherwise it's going to make for a large, geeky watch.

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    2. Re:Companion handset by tburke261 · · Score: 1

      BT Low Energy is part of BT 4.0- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bluetooth_low_energy

    3. Re:Companion handset by hawguy · · Score: 1

      A good smart watch needs a bluetooth handset that looks like an ordinary cell phone. You could use it for voice calls, so as not to look like "that dork talking into his Dick Tracy wrist phone".
      But I suppose people talking to their wrists would at least be slightly less annoying than the bluetooth earpiece people who are indistinguishable from the mentally ill when encountered on a city sidewalk.

      If you have a Bluetooth handset that looks like an ordinary cell phone, what's the point of having the phone built-in to the watch? Just use an ordinary cell phone to make your calls instead of using Bluetooth handset that looks like an ordinary cell phone.

    4. Re:Companion handset by hawguy · · Score: 2

      Has something been done to reduce bluetooth device power consumption? Otherwise it's going to make for a large, geeky watch.

      Any watch with a screen large enough and bright enough to be useful is going to be a large, geeky watch with short battery life.

    5. Re:Companion handset by realilskater · · Score: 1

      If you want a handset that looks like a phone then use a phone and have the watch be a bluetooth display of critical info from your phone. I would rather have the watch with a paired bluetooth headset. Less to carry.

    6. Re:Companion handset by gl4ss · · Score: 1

      yes. it's likely that any smartwatch will incorporate bt.
      of course, if you'd like one.. http://www.sonymobile.com/us/products/accessories/smartwatch/

      not too many people want one though.

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    7. Re:Companion handset by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you have a Bluetooth handset that looks like an ordinary cell phone, what's the point of having the phone built-in to the watch? Just use an ordinary cell phone to make your calls instead of using Bluetooth handset that looks like an ordinary cell phone.

      well... it's not really a funny joke if you have to explain it.

    8. Re:Companion handset by hawguy · · Score: 1

      If you have a Bluetooth handset that looks like an ordinary cell phone, what's the point of having the phone built-in to the watch? Just use an ordinary cell phone to make your calls instead of using Bluetooth handset that looks like an ordinary cell phone.

      well... it's not really a funny joke if you have to explain it.

      It would be a better joke if he wasn't describing a product that already exists: http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2013/01/smartphone-too-big-get-a-smaller-phone-for-your-smartphone/

    9. Re:Companion handset by Lije+Baley · · Score: 1

      Wow. I hate it when the truth is more absurd than comedy.

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    10. Re:Companion handset by crutchy · · Score: 1

      a good smart watch needs a handset shaped like a shoe... you can't get smart without the old phone in the shoe trick

    11. Re:Companion handset by crutchy · · Score: 1

      except that if it has an apple logo it won't be geeky anymore regardless of what it looks like

    12. Re:Companion handset by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      it wont work as a phone on its own (i wish it would, but i can guarantee it'll be reliant on an iphone for all but the most simple tasks). It'll be Like the pebble smart watch but they might put a microphone and speaker in it.

    13. Re:Companion handset by fuzzywig · · Score: 1

      Yes, see Bluetooth Low Energy. Essentially it's part of the BT4.0 spec designed for applications like this.

  12. How about a SPY WATCH? by dav1dc · · Score: 3, Insightful

    How about some James Bond-esc features, like a: laser cutter, knife, garrote wire, etc. ??

    ^_^

    1. Re:How about a SPY WATCH? by MalHavoc · · Score: 1

      Hah, what you probably want is the watch that Steve Jobs was wearing in this video:

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzRBtToSarE

    2. Re:How about a SPY WATCH? by Em+Adespoton · · Score: 1

      How about some James Bond-esc features, like a: laser cutter, knife, garrote wire, etc. ??

      ^_^

      I seem to recall one of the Bond watches had some sort of super-powerful electromagnet -- I don't think that would play nicely with the other circuitry (although it could be used for instant-wipe).

    3. Re:How about a SPY WATCH? by AlphaWolf_HK · · Score: 1

      To be honest I stopped wearing a watch after I got my smartphone, it just seemed kind of superfluous. But my smartphone doesn't hold a garrote wire, and I've always wanted to carry around a garrote wire but I hate having things in my pockets, so on the wrist would be great.

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    4. Re:How about a SPY WATCH? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      mod parent up, I'd like some bond style features rather than just yet ANOTHER GSM module crammed inside yet another tiny case. That's what Apple do best, cram GSM modules where you least expect them.

    5. Re:How about a SPY WATCH? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      James Bond-esc features

      I thought you meant tall, dark, handsome, dashing, smart... A watch that gets the ladies, i.e. features of James Bond.

    6. Re:How about a SPY WATCH? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      what watch you moron.

    7. Re:How about a SPY WATCH? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      it would be easier to put a garrote wire in the smartphone. I also hate having things in my pocket so if this watch could make phone calls by itself (which it almost certainly wont) i might buy my first apple product

  13. Features for watch by mrjb · · Score: 1

    Walkie talkie to call self-driving car Feature to make wearer invisible Laser beam No sharks please Please make this watch. Thank you.

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  14. here we go again by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    First it was pocket watches, then someone came up with a more efficient mechanism, leading to the analog wrist-watch, so we had to upgrade
      Then came the digital watch, which had functions such as "stopwatch" and "calculator", so we had to upgrade.
    Then came the cell phone, which some people (for reasons I still fail to understand) thought was more convenient for checking the time by pulling a large device out of their pocket rather than just glancing at their wrist, but still - we had to upgrade.
    Now here's something new that we'll have to upgrade to.

    Yeesh.

    I've seen one or two arm-mounted computers on the net, but they're pretty much just PADDs strapped to the wrist. I've seen a few watches with additional features (Bluetooth linked caller ID display, camera, USB drive, multiple timezones, etc)- none of these compare to the wristwatch we currently use!

    Now it's time for either a large weight on the arm or a small device linked to a larger one you'll have to carry around.

    All I want from a watch (and granted I'm the kind of person who doesn't see the benefit in a smartphone over a flip phone or why cameras are needed there or irritated avians, just battery draining fluff) is an hour hand, minute hand, second hand is preferable, date function is helpful on occasion, stopwatch for running, possibly the calculator function, and finally (but this is the big one) LONG BATTERY LIFE SO I CAN BE SURE IT'LL KEEP TIME.

    There are the self winding watches, those can work, but the benefit of these devices currently elude me.

    1. Re:here we go again by daver00 · · Score: 1

      As the owner of two mechanical pocket watches and a smartphone, you're just whining. Nobody is forcing you to upgrade dude, buy whatever you want to use and use it.

    2. Re:here we go again by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Solar watches are nice. Also i know it still a fools dream, but if there was a watch that could make phone calls and texts, have a couple of days of batteries, didn't weigh that much, and in a reasonably slick package, i would buy it in a heart beat.

  15. I want my Dick Tracy watch by Earl+The+Squirrel · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I want a souped up Dick Tracy watch... with not just a speaker, but video... like this

    1. Re:I want my Dick Tracy watch by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      iWatch with Skype. There you go!

    2. Re:I want my Dick Tracy watch by DuBois · · Score: 1

      I second that motion.

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  16. The ability to run any app you want by _xeno_ · · Score: 1

    What would the killer feature of a "smart watch" be? That depends on who's using it. So the ultimate killer feature would be the ability to use any app from any source, without restriction. That way each person would find their own killer app.

    I think we all know the iWatch, if it ever exists, won't do that.

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    1. Re:The ability to run any app you want by gstoddart · · Score: 2

      So the ultimate killer feature would be the ability to use any app from any source, without restriction.

      I think we all know the iWatch, if it ever exists, won't do that.

      Of course, no other device does this now, so you're kind putting a high bar for Apple.

      Would a Microsoft phone/watch/OS run stuff from Android, Apple, mainframes and the old Amiga? All without restriction? Would an Android watch let you run Windows and iOS apps? You could wait for the Linux watch, but it would be hard to find drivers for it and the only place to get help would be an IRC chatroom where everybody says "RTFM n00b".

      What you're asking for doesn't exist now, so why should it exist as a watch?

      But, fear not -- everybody else will wait and see if Apple succeeds with this, then come out with the inevitable "me too" products, each with their own warts and features. They'll all specifically exclude each other's software, and only work with their own phones.

      The Microsoft watch will need to be rebooted weekly, the Linux watch will run forever but with ugly fonts, and the Android watch will be smug in the fact that it's neither Microsoft nor Apple, but the carriers will customize it and refuse to release updates for it. ;-)

      Software freedom philosophies notwithstanding, entities like Microsoft and Apple are never going to play nicely by design. They're competing, and that doesn't make for a situation where the consumer gets to choose "all of the above".

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    2. Re:The ability to run any app you want by JaredOfEuropa · · Score: 1

      This. Or alternatively, an API that will let any iPhone app expose a separate mini-GUI on a paired iWatch. Same damn thing they should have done for Siri. Both the watch and Siri are/will be great for short, uncomplicated actions, the kind you'd do with a remote control. Such an API implemented in the right kind of app could be a game changer in the way we control our stuff... if only Apple will let us.

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    3. Re:The ability to run any app you want by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Apps are an overrated feature of smartphones. A watch needs to look good and tell the time.

      How much of a prat would you look sat on the bus playing angry birds on your watch.

  17. Small display + Siri is the key by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The problem with a tiny-display device is that the interface can only have very few or very small buttons. But with Siri -- especially as Siri improves -- you don't need any buttons at all. So this may just be a wearable iPhone with a small, but thoroughly usable screen. I wouldn't want one, but I can see the market.

    1. Re:Small display + Siri is the key by nospam007 · · Score: 3, Funny

      " But with Siri -- especially as Siri improves -- you don't need any buttons at all."

      Talk to the hand.

      Great.

  18. A battery that doesn't suck. by dclozier · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Maybe I could live with charging it weekly but on a daily basis? forget it.

    1. Re:A battery that doesn't suck. by wildbronco · · Score: 1

      How about inductive charging? Just set it on your inductive charging mat at night?

    2. Re:A battery that doesn't suck. by chemicaldave · · Score: 1

      Do you wear your watch to bed or something?

    3. Re:A battery that doesn't suck. by Xphile101361 · · Score: 2

      Thinking too small. My body generates heat, the watch is attached to my body. Heat can be turned into energy. I want this to suck the heat from my body (much like my soul) and charge itself.

    4. Re:A battery that doesn't suck. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes.

    5. Re:A battery that doesn't suck. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I haven't taken my watch off in about 6 years with the exception of airport security checkpoints.

    6. Re:A battery that doesn't suck. by ljw1004 · · Score: 1

      All GPS-tracking watches that I've seen today have a battery life of about one day. So daily charging won't be new for a watch.

    7. Re:A battery that doesn't suck. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Yeah, but if Apple can't lock you in to needing a custom cable that they can sell you for an additional $45 then how are they going to keep their profits sky high?

    8. Re:A battery that doesn't suck. by Kjella · · Score: 1

      I haven't taken my watch off in about 6 years with the exception of airport security checkpoints.

      Anywhere else I'd assume it's waterproof so you shower with it, here on slashdot I'm not so sure...

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    9. Re:A battery that doesn't suck. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      They will just use bowel heat so that you can take it up the ass.

    10. Re:A battery that doesn't suck. by dclozier · · Score: 1

      Yes, I don't have an alarm clock or any other clock in my bedroom. Other than for showering (although it is water proof) and doing physical work that which may break my watch I do not take it off. I have had it for 5 years now. It is a Citizen Eco Drive which is battery/solar powered. Very accurate and long lived. Good luck with the long lived part on a smart watch!

    11. Re:A battery that doesn't suck. by compro01 · · Score: 1

      Or gather the power from movement like an automatic quartz watch.

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    12. Re:A battery that doesn't suck. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, it will be new, because most people who wear watches, or have memories of having worn watches in the past, don't have any idea what you're talking about. Approximately 97.2885001% of the market expects their watch to need a new battery (or a recharge) every year or few years. Most of that market may accept charging every month, or maybe even every week, but let's get serious: it'll be a sign of lameness. Possibly an accepted lameness, but a conspicuous and inconvenient lameness nonetheless. Daily charging would go even beyond that, into "comical lameness."

      If having GPS means a watch will necessarily suck, then anyone who makes a mass-market (i.e Apple!) watch better be damn sure that their watch does not include GPS. Sometimes a "killer feature" means something bad. ;-)

    13. Re:A battery that doesn't suck. by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 1

      Ideally they'll integrate a kinetic charger in the device.

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    14. Re:A battery that doesn't suck. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Which I always found kinda strange. I'd imagine the key market for such gadgets (gps in a watch!) would be backpackers---but then there's no place to charge these things at night. Similarly, music on the go... where the heck am I supposed to charge an iphone/ipod in the woods?

      I wish more devices would: 1) last longer, and 2) came with replaceable batteries, and 3) used standard AA or AAA batteries. Heck, MP3 players from a few years back worked damn well on AAs (could continuously play music for over 24 hours), how come there are no AA powered mp3 players in the market right now?

    15. Re:A battery that doesn't suck. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I have a Casio "Wave Ceptor" watch. It has a solar battery that needs only daylight or room light to recharge. Also leave the watch near a west facing window at night time and it syncs with WWV USA national bureau of standards radio broadcast during hours between 2 AM and 4 AM daily.

    16. Re:A battery that doesn't suck. by hawguy · · Score: 2

      Thinking too small. My body generates heat, the watch is attached to my body. Heat can be turned into energy. I want this to suck the heat from my body (much like my soul) and charge itself.

      The problem is temperature differential -- you only have about 15 degrees C different between body temperature and room temperature, plus there's not much surface area to collect heat, nor much opportunity to build an effective heatsink to dissipate it. And if you go outside on a warm day or wear a jacket over your arm, then most or all of the temperature differential is gone.

      You might be able to power an old-school LCD display watch with that little power, but not a smart-phone-in-a-watch.

    17. Re:A battery that doesn't suck. by Altus · · Score: 1

      not too bad honestly, but really, I almost never take off my watch. I sleep with it on and I shower with it. I take it off when I get a massage since it gets in the way.

      Charging my watch might be a bridge to far for me unless it does something really really awesome.

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    18. Re:A battery that doesn't suck. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      could probably harness the movement from your wrists as well, like self-winding watches do.

      of course, i doubt that would generate enough power to keep an apple watch perpetually charged, but it might help.

    19. Re:A battery that doesn't suck. by Anubis+IV · · Score: 1

      Do you not? Have you given any serious thought to that?

      Assuming you're one of those types that takes it off, I have to say that people like you confound me, since your actions suggest that you have no need for a watch at all. The whole point of a watch (fashion/social statements aside) is to conveniently tell the time, more so than you can by simply pulling your phone out of your pocket. But if you're taking it off before you go to bed, or remove it before taking a shower or going for a swim, then you're effectively balancing out the convenience it offers with a roughly similar amount of inconvenience, suggesting that you'd be just as well served by simply using your phone.

      Now, if you're wearing it for other reasons (e.g. sentimental, to make a statement, etc.), then that's all fine, but if you're wearing it for strictly utilitarian purposes, it would seem to me that anyone who takes it off that often simply doesn't need a watch at all.

    20. Re:A battery that doesn't suck. by Random+Destruction · · Score: 1

      Citizen Eco Drive!

      I just recently picked up one of those. Perpetual calendar, sets itself via radio signal every night, automatic daylight savings adjustment, and recharges via sunlight. Plus It's got a sapphire crystal and I paid under $400 for it. For me it's the perfect quartz watch.

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    21. Re:A battery that doesn't suck. by Random+Destruction · · Score: 1

      Putting a watch on in the morning is a lot easier than pulling a phone out of your pocket every time you want to tell the time for the rest of the day. I remove my watch for extended computer use, sleeping and showering. I just find it more comfortable. Though I also tend to remove my glasses before I eat, so I may be the weird one here.

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    22. Re:A battery that doesn't suck. by Anubis+IV · · Score: 1

      I guess it depends on how often you check time throughout the day. In just testing myself while operating at an unhurried pace that's typical of how long it would normally take me, it takes me 5 seconds to remove my watch and 8 seconds to put it back on (though I routinely drop one of the straps and have to grab it again whenever I do try to put my watch on, which would extend my time, were I to conduct more tests and average them). I didn't count any additional time necessary to locate the watch or travel to a nightstand/table/whatever. If we assume that we take them off and put on them on twice each day (once for bed and once for a shower), that's 26 seconds a day. If we also do it while at the computer (a habit I too once had), that's 39 seconds each day spent managing our watches. That's actually less than I anticipated it taking, but it still is quite a bit.

      Going the other way, it took me approximately 3 seconds at a typical pace to retrieve my phone from my pocket (which was fast enough that I wondered if it was a fluke, but trying again at an unhurried pace, it took me that long each time), activate the screen, and parse the time on the screen, and an additional 3 seconds to return it to my pocket. In contrast, it took me about 2 seconds to turn the face of my watch towards me and parse its face (some of that is likely due to the fact that I have an analog face on my wristwatch, but a digital clock on my phone, making the latter simpler for me to read quickly). As such, at least for me, there's an approximate net loss of 4 seconds each time I retrieve my phone from my pocket (and that's assuming we count the time it takes to put it back in the pocket, which I'm not convinced we should, given that it would have served its purpose after merely parsing the clock, which is the time that matters), but the other side starts off at a deficit of almost 40 seconds, meaning that you'd have to check the time at least 10 times each day before you broke even.

      Even better, had I not typed this up and done that testing, I could have checked my watch several thousand times. :P

    23. Re:A battery that doesn't suck. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I own many nice watches (Breitling, Cartier, Rolex, etc.) but the watch I wear every day is a titanium Citizen Skyhawk Ecodrive I bought about 10 years ago. I just haven't found another watch I really want to wear more often than this one.

      It doesn't have the automatic time setting like yours, but it is just such a damn good watch that I only wear the others when a specific social occasion really calls for one.

    24. Re:A battery that doesn't suck. by dywolf · · Score: 1

      watch on arm. magnetic coil on belt. as you swing your arms, the watch charges.
      why not? my father wore a self winding watch for years. never ever had to get a battery change, and kept great time.
      myself, i dont wear a watch.

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    25. Re:A battery that doesn't suck. by chemicaldave · · Score: 1

      Yes, but is the inconvenience of night-time charging really outweighing the benefits that a smartwatch might provide?

    26. Re:A battery that doesn't suck. by Anubis+IV · · Score: 1

      To me, that depends. I haven't found the smartwatch yet that offered features that would justify daily charging. It's a value proposition, and I haven't found one that's worth it to me yet.

      My previous comment was strictly limited to standard wristwatches. ;)

  19. If a smartwatch is like a smartphone... by Carcass666 · · Score: 1

    It will stream videos, play music, have Angry Birds and have a great newsreader; but won't excel at it's primary task which, in this case, is keeping decent time.

    1. Re:If a smartwatch is like a smartphone... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I have a smartphone to do all of those things... placing/receiving calls is just something extra it can do

  20. Has to last longer than a smartphone by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 2

    If I have to charge a watch every day, I'm not going to be using one.

    I stopped wearing a watch when I started carrying a cellphone, so I'm not 100% sure I'd use one of these smart watches anyway - but I must admit some of the ideas I occasionally hear floating around this idea do intrigue me. However the existing smart watches don't impress me at all - not really enough bang for the buck.

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  21. Who needs a wrist watch? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Who needs a watch anymore? The only thing I could see them doing to make this work is taking away the time display on my iPhone and not allowing any apps to display the time.

    1. Re:Who needs a wrist watch? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Somehow, I find that glancing at my wrist rather than having to dig my phone out of my pocket (which isn't allowed in all the areas I work in) is significantly less intrusive. I also don't have to worry about whether or not I charged my watch recently.

    2. Re:Who needs a wrist watch? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Somehow, I find that glancing at my wrist rather than having to dig my phone out of my pocket (which isn't allowed in all the areas I work in) is significantly less intrusive. I also don't have to worry about whether or not I charged my watch recently.

      Pfft. Get with the times, grandpa! You're not cool unless you add at least five superfluous layers of complexity to your life, one of which is remembering to charge the source of the other four layers! All the trendy kids gather around the country's hottest clubs to whine about how they forgot to charge their phones!

      (yes, around the clubs; none of them can find the front door via Apple Maps)

    3. Re:Who needs a wrist watch? by Random+Destruction · · Score: 1

      Agreed. I also like having a convenient chronometer for cooking food, or measuring how long I'm spending on something. Sure I could use my phone, but the wrist is more convenient.

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  22. Time travel by mark-t · · Score: 1

    Hey.... you have to admit, having a watch that allowed you to travel through time would be pretty kick-ass.

    1. Re:Time travel by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I already travel through time. A way to stop, or at least pause for a bit, would be more impressive.

    2. Re:Time travel by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'd rather have a phone booth.

    3. Re:Time travel by Rob+the+Bold · · Score: 1

      I already travel through time. A way to stop, or at least pause for a bit, would be more impressive.

      Maybe a kind of stopwatch like this? What could possibly go wrong?

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    4. Re:Time travel by oodaloop · · Score: 1

      FFS, no! Do you really want every apple fanboi traveling through time, fucking things up? Next thing you know, Hitler turns out to invent Windows and Jesus invents the iPhone.

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    5. Re:Time travel by CanHasDIY · · Score: 1

      Next thing you know, Hitler turns out to invent Windows and Jesus invents the iPhone.

      Had you ever spent any time inside the Reality Distortion Field, you would know that this is already the case.

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  23. Ant+ by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Workout data. For bikes, heartrate, power, cadence plus some Strava features.

  24. Lasers and targeting by WillAffleckUW · · Score: 1

    Obviously it needs a high power laser and a targeting circle, which uses Apple Maps and the AppleID of the target to precisely hit the wrong building.

    That or a scrolling stock ticker with a built in Angry Birds game that is voice controlled.

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  25. eInk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I think an e-Ink screen is an absolute must. You'll be looking at your watch often in broad sunlight, and with e-Ink, the screen could be on all the time and not take much power when it's idling.

    1. Re:eInk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is what you're looking for: http://www.getpebble.com

    2. Re:eInk by Motard · · Score: 1

      You're right. You also don't want it glowing in the dark at a movie theater.

      I think if I wanted to sell a smartwatch I'd create a few different form factors and send blanks out to watch makers so they could focus on the 'jewlery' aspect. Then people could buy a Timex iWatch or a Tag Heuer iWatch. Each watch maker could preload apps to complement the style (stop watches for sporty watches, or maybe Open Table for a more elegant model).

      Oh, and a 'quiet-mode'. If I'm in a job interview I don't want my watch begging for my attention.

    3. Re:eInk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If only it weren't huge and hideously ugly.

    4. Re:eInk by dgatwood · · Score: 1

      I think an e-Ink screen is an absolute must. You'll be looking at your watch often in broad sunlight, and with e-Ink, the screen could be on all the time and not take much power when it's idling.

      Not sure why you'd need e-Ink to do that. I used to use black-and-white passive-matrix LCD panels outside all the time with the backlight disabled. It has only been since the turn of the century that we've forgotten that not all LCDs are bright, full-color things that consume tons of power.... :-)

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    5. Re:eInk by Anubis+IV · · Score: 2

      Focus on features instead of implementation. What you want is a watch that can be read in the sun and uses as little power as possible. eInk does that decently well, but it also has to refresh in a rather distracting way (which is what's kept me from supporting devices like the CST-01 on Kickstarter). For a company as design-driven as Apple, I'd hope that they'd start with a feature and figure out how to make the technology work how they want (including inventing new technology when necessary), rather than starting with a technology and going from there, as you have.

    6. Re:eInk by L1mewater · · Score: 1

      I don't think e-Ink is a good choice for a watch, especially if you want the screen to update every second. You'd burn through too much power just updating the seconds counter. You'd have to charge your watch every week or so.

  26. time, stopwatch, countdown timer, alarm, indiglo by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Watch must be water reistant to 100m (I don't dive, but the ones rated for less have been known to die in the sink or shower).
    Stopwatch must display 1/100ths of a second.
    Countdown timer must have repeat function.

    /thread

  27. NTP by RandomFactor · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I mean really, it is a time piece after all...

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    1. Re:NTP by BitterOak · · Score: 1

      GPS would probably be a more practical way to set the time on a wristwatch than NTP. NTP requires an Internet connection which, in areas with no wifi would have to be part of a data plan that you pay for. GPS signals are free.

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    2. Re:NTP by c++0xFF · · Score: 1

      GPS signals are poor in urban environments. But I suppose you'd only need to see one satellite.

      But why even go that far? A radio-controlled clock using the NIST station in Ft. Collins, CO would be a much simpler solution, I would think.

      How does reception of a radio clock compare to GPS reception? (I live in Colorado so it's never been a problem for me).

    3. Re:NTP by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      An NTP connection even once a week would still be valuable. Heck, once or twice a year still has value.

    4. Re:NTP by BitterOak · · Score: 1

      GPS signals are poor in urban environments. But I suppose you'd only need to see one satellite.

      You'd still need at least 3 satellites, but unlike for navigation, you don't need anything like a continuous signal. If the watch sets itself once or twice a day, that should be good enough for most purposes, as long as it has a quartz timepiece like a conventional watch. In fact, if the watch were designed cleverly, it could calibrate for the accuracy of the quartz crystal by comparing multiple GPS readings at different times and then it should keep very good time even if it set only once or twice a week.

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  28. Clearly by lesincompetent · · Score: 1

    A metal melting laser.

  29. Android... by tuppe666 · · Score: 1

    ..with live results of Apples shares prices dropping.

    1. Re:Android... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Are you seriously that invested into a platform that you care what another one is doing? A guy who thinks like you probably owns a fancy sports car too.
       
      Seriously, your fanboism makes you look like a raving fool. And the fact that you had no problems looking like an idiot is even more telling. Don't you have any vision when it comes to technology or do you just like to flash your gadgets so that you look "geek"?

    2. Re:Android... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ..with live results of Apples shares prices dropping.

      Yeah, right. If I wanted a second rate knock-off I'd buy it from China. Erm, well not from S. Korea anyway : ).

  30. I'm too busy right now... by tippe · · Score: 1

    but if I had the time I'd probably rip off the features listed on the spec sheet for the Pebble Watch and pass them off as being my own ideas. Come to think of it, that's probably exactly what Apple is going to do. Hope those Pebble guys have deep pockets and a solid patent portfolio...

    1. Re:I'm too busy right now... by _anomaly_ · · Score: 1

      I was thinking the same thing. I'm not affiliated with Pebble, but I am waiting for my watch that's supposed to be shipping mid-March.

      However, as I see it, even if Apple does rip Pebble off on some of its design or feature set, it won't be able to do a lot of things Pebble will be able to due to the sole fact that it's from Apple. The guys and gals from Pebble have a lot more potential in what they will be able to accomplish with the smartwatch due to their flexibility; those at Apple will be restricted to stay in line with the designs of its other product lines.

      One thing is for sure, the smartwatch market should be interesting to over the next year or so.

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    2. Re:I'm too busy right now... by james_shoemaker · · Score: 1

      Or look at the MetaWatch (the guys the pebble stole their idea from)

  31. Spoilers: 5 ... 4 ... 3 ... 2 ... 1... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    http://www.tomshardware.com/news/apple-patent-motion-charger-induction,17760.html

  32. Killer app? by frank_adrian314159 · · Score: 1

    Somehow, I don't see why something that has the purpose of telling me the time would be killing anything. But I guess you could always put a tiny assault rifle in one. Or a laser beam (shark optional).

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    1. Re:Killer app? by CannonballHead · · Score: 1

      Assault rifles are black. Apple likes white. So, it clearly can't be classified as an assault rifle. [/snark]

    2. Re:Killer app? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Twitter is the perfect communications medium for the modern corporation.

      Twitter is stupid. And Instagram is for people that can't read.

      'nuff said.

  33. A car? by StripedCow · · Score: 1

    A black 1982 Pontiac Trans Am.

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    1. Re:A car? by gruntkowski · · Score: 1

      c'mon guys, mod up! This is funny as hell.

  34. Features that appear "Obvious" by Spectre · · Score: 1

    Speaking as somebody who uses a lot of iDevices (work and home) including an iPod nano (6th generation) as a watch currently. Battery life is on the order of days of use as a media player, weeks to months if used just as a watch. Adding a few features like Bluetooth would be a further drain on the battery, but I'd hope a few years worth of refinements on an old design would mean that battery life would still be similar after enhancements.
    An overly obvious way to make an iWatch would be to take that same iPod nano form factor and:

    • Re-do the case: remove the clip from the back so it is more compact, add mounting points for a watch band
    • Add Bluetooth communication so it can be paired with a smartphone (in the Apple world, almost certainly an iPhone)
    • Add a communication channel over the Bluetooth connection so notifications can be passed from the phone to the watch
    • Add settings on the watch to filter notifications that appear, "Badges", "Banners", "Alerts" (possibly also by App)
    • Permit the Bluetooth connection to also handle audio so one set of Bluetooth headphones/mic can handle music (iPod functionality) as well as a phone call

    Without any serious investment nor innovation, it's already useful. Meeting Alerts will show up on your watch if you want, same for important e-mail, texts from select people, incoming calls, and that stupid reminder to pick up milk on the way home ...
    Since this is obvious stuff and it hasn't been done yet, I'm guessing the designers probably have some "killer features" that are non-obvious.

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  35. yaya by AndyKron · · Score: 1

    I'll tell ya what shouldn't be in a smart watch: Apple patents. DICK TRACY INVENTED IT!

  36. Neurophone output? by Okian+Warrior · · Score: 1

    A "Neurophone" is an ultrasonic transducer that uses bone conduction to present sounds to the inner ear.

    How about a neurophone output?

    The output could be spoken Siri-style messages, communication from the watch to the wearer would be inaudible to anyone else, there would be no need for a loudspeaker in the watch, or an earphone.

  37. Re:iDiots by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Consistently "higher performing" SO javascript tests written for the apple javacript engine runs faster?! Wow I'm a true convert, pass me some Jobs prayer beads. Lower resolution screen, no customization AT ALL, slow as hell compared to the HTC DNA, but I guess when Apple is slower its just an outlier right? Google voice search returns results faster than siri. And hows that apple maps working out for ya? Did they rearrange the geography for ya?

  38. Useful health applications by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    What would be really great is if they could finally give us an integrated blood sugar monitor. No more needles for diabetics and of course "there's an app for that" that would help track blood sugar levels.

  39. Voice interface by greenguy · · Score: 1

    Smartwatch confirms it: keyboards are dying.

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    What if I do the same thing, and I do get different results?
    1. Re:Voice interface by Jefftoe · · Score: 1

      What?! Please don't wish for that... If the masses don't want keyboards, fine. Or to look cool... fine. But try coding c++ without one. Should I stockpile keyboards for the zombie apocalypse? ;-) The "GUI" for musicians using harpsichords, pianos, and now highly technical synthesizers has not changed in hundreds of years. Reason is people like the black and white keys. I will always have a keyboard and mouse handy. guess I'm old

  40. My smart phone has a clangy bell ring tone by WinstonWolfIT · · Score: 1

    So my smart watch will need to come with a ticking tick tone or no deal.

  41. I can see uses for this. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Quick notifications come to mind.... email, texts, weather alerts. Whatever you'd want pushed to it.
     
    But on the high end side of what I could see with this is medical monitoring. Could this be used to meassure heart rate? Insulin levels? O2 levels? It would be great for training and better yet could be used for people in a high risk catagory. Imagine knowing your heart is having issues minutes before they manifest in a really disabling way. That could save lives.
     
    I know everyone is going to cry and moan because this has Apple's name on it. Please stop, this isn't just about Apple and your fanboi bias just isn't all that interesting.
     
    I think "smart"[whatever] technology is being overlooked in ways that could really benefit the end user. The technologies that are out there have a pretty solid track record and need to be brought into more serious applications. Science fiction writers have had ideas about this kind of thing for decades and longer. We could be working on this today. I'd be willing to beta test something with these kinds of potentials for free.

  42. Testing blood though the skin viable? by grimJester · · Score: 1

    I'd love to have something that could tell me the blood sugar level in real time. Alcohol level could be cool too, for getting that elusive perfect steadily rising drunkenness without blackouts or vomiting.

    1. Re:Testing blood though the skin viable? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      If it could check your blood sugar level in real time, I think that would make it pretty uncomfortable to wear.

    2. Re:Testing blood though the skin viable? by gstoddart · · Score: 1

      Alcohol level could be cool too, for getting that elusive perfect steadily rising drunkenness without blackouts or vomiting.

      You just need to keep practicing, or stop partying with frat boys.

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    3. Re:Testing blood though the skin viable? by Githaron · · Score: 1

      I guess that would depend on whether the watch actually took samples of your blood or just acted as a display for an implant transmitting the info.

    4. Re:Testing blood though the skin viable? by SomePgmr · · Score: 1

      NOW we're talking. Do those exist?

      It reminds me of this guys project...
      http://www.tricorderproject.org/tricorder-mark2.html

    5. Re:Testing blood though the skin viable? by hawguy · · Score: 1

      I hope there's good privacy controls on the data as I'm sure your insurance company would like to have that data too. "We're sorry sir, but we we're canceling your policy because you are pre-diabetic and you drink too much"

    6. Re:Testing blood though the skin viable? by Boycott+BMG · · Score: 1

      I hope there's good privacy controls on the data as I'm sure your insurance company would like to have that data too. "We're sorry sir, but we we're canceling your policy because you are pre-diabetic and you drink too much"

      Obamacare makes it illegal to refuse coverage for pre exisiting conditions as of 2014.

    7. Re:Testing blood though the skin viable? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Drinking booze isnt a pre-existing condition. Neither is smoking.

    8. Re:Testing blood though the skin viable? by dgatwood · · Score: 1

      Yes, at least in theory, but you'd have to build it into a pair of glasses.

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    9. Re:Testing blood though the skin viable? by Boycott+BMG · · Score: 1

      Interestingly, smoking, but not drinking, is one of the things that insurance companies will still be allowed to discriminate on in the Affordable Care Act. So if you are a boozehound they can't increase your rates but if you are a smoker then they can charge you more. The other things that can still affect your rates are your age, whether you are married w children, and what area of the country you live.

    10. Re:Testing blood though the skin viable? by Obfuscant · · Score: 1

      I've heard (in a podcast about advances in diabetes monitoring) that there are both implanted and external sensors. The implants suffer from biofouling (icky sticky oozy coatings messing up the reading). The external sensors are skin-contact and still being developed. The latter also don't measure blood glucose but tissue glucose, which can be much different.

    11. Re:Testing blood though the skin viable? by CrimsonAvenger · · Score: 1

      I hope there's good privacy controls on the data as I'm sure your insurance company would like to have that data too. "We're sorry sir, but we we're canceling your policy because you are pre-diabetic and you drink too much"

      I'm sure the police would love to have the blood-alcohol data streamed to them also....

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    12. Re:Testing blood though the skin viable? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm a Russian living in Sweden, by local standards the perfect steadily rising drunkenness is one where you still wake up the next day missing at least one item of clothing, with a strange woman in your bead and some mysterious third person's vomit-covered jacket in your kitchen sink.

      I suspect people around here would just use a wristwatch that tracks blood alcohol levels to compete with each other.

  43. A garage door opener! by dhalsim2 · · Score: 1

    A garage door opener!

  44. Short list by GodfatherofSoul · · Score: 1

    A functioning watch
    Wifi to seamlessly resync with NTP servers
    Advanced watch functions like alarm, stop watch and timer
    MicroSD card reader
    MP3 player
    Desktop sync (through blue tooth?)
    Maybe a battery cell band for increased power
    headphone jack (you'll need a technique to secure the wire for joggers, exercisers, etc)
    Simple notification system to receive texts, email, tweets, FB updates, etc., seriously doubt sending capability will work

    Lose all the extended functionality like web browsing unless you plan on pimping a new ultra low-end mobile format for displaying web pages.

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  45. geiger counter by WillgasM · · Score: 1

    and a large enough wristband to fit around my meaty paw

  46. They already made one by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It was called the iPod Nano.

    And then they killed it.

  47. Re:iDiots by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Did they rearrange the geography for ya?

    Yes :(

  48. It's not standalone by Bogtha · · Score: 4, Insightful

    A smart watch only really makes sense as a convenient interface to a more powerful machine. The features important to it are therefore input and output, along with a connection to your phone. So a display, a microphone, and a button are the obvious ones. A smart watch will probably have fewer features than a non-smart watch.

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    1. Re:It's not standalone by thammoud · · Score: 2

      I wonder what you need to do on a plane.

    2. Re:It's not standalone by Bogtha · · Score: 1

      It seems relatively straightforward to solve. Just make the watch only transmit data if the device it is paired with is available. When you put your phone into airplane mode, it switches off the Bluetooth radio, your watch sees the signal drop off, and reverts to disconnected mode, which just shows the time. When you take your phone out of airplane mode, your watch sees the signal reappear and reconnects.

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  49. Multiple devices by gmuslera · · Score: 3, Interesting

    A separate bluetooth headset should take care of the phone interaction. I would put sensors there (at very least, for pulse), as a small screeen for displaying fast information (time, weather, notifications, playlist controls, etc, and a "remote desktop" for your real phone, that could be big enough to not have it always in your hand.

    Phones are getting big, maybe splitting the interaction with several separate devices could be the way (and yes, something similar to Google Glass could be in the kitchen too)

  50. Medical uses by Okian+Warrior · · Score: 4, Interesting

    How about a self-contained package which holds all of the wearer's medical records? (Yes, sort out the security issues first.)

    How about continuous monitoring of heart rate, blood oxygenation, and temperature?

    Rather than go to the doctor "with a fever", the doctor could tell if the fever was low-grade, "spiky", how long it has been going on, &c. Perhaps the specific fever character could be used to disambiguate between certain diseases. A patient could tell if the fever was only certain times of the day (allergic to something at work?) or in certain places.

    Blood-oxygenation monitoring and heartrate could be used to diagnose sleep apnea, tell how much exercise the person is getting. Motion monitoring could diagnose sleep disorders.

    1. Re:Medical uses by nblender · · Score: 1

      I was just about to post most of this... Kudos for your thoroughness...

    2. Re:Medical uses by gnoshi · · Score: 1

      If the Basis band guys integrated an oximeter that would fulfil all the monitoring criteria. Mind you, they need to also provide raw data export, and clear documentation on sensitivity, error correction, and filtering used.

      It seems like an almost brilliant device, ruined by failure rates, needing to be registered with an online system to get any data, a complete inability to get raw data, and no API. I'd be ordering one if I could be sure it would come in the next 6 months and I'd be able to read the data from it.

    3. Re:Medical uses by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not sure what HIPAA regulations there would be around this, but it would certainly be shitty to see these watch manufacturers turn around and sell this data to insurance companies.

    4. Re:Medical uses by DigiShaman · · Score: 1

      You can't!!! Legally, they can't unless they pay for medical certification of the device. Then, you're looking up towards 10's of thousands of dollars. This is an administrative limitation, not a technical one.

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    5. Re:Medical uses by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes you can. (Maybe not medical records or use for diagnosis, but the rest.) You can get apps that will measure heart rate, temperature etc. And the most useful medical record is blood type and allergies, there's nothing to prevent an app holding that information and putting it on the screen (maybe even automatically if it detects poor heartbeat or whatever). You just can't claim it's providing meaningful medical data (and the doctor wouldn't be able to use the info for diagnosis or monitoring) but for personal interest and to track trends in your body it's fine - claim it's for sports monitoring or whatever rather than a professional medical application.

    6. Re:Medical uses by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sweet. Then the doctor could just ignore it like they do anything else you tell them, make a wild guess at what you have, and go back to daydreaming about how awesome they are.

  51. To be cheaper than a Rolex by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    But as an Apple product, the cost will likely make Rolex blush

  52. Nice try... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Nice try Apple R&D ;)

  53. Obviously a RAD counter by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It should keep track of every item on my person, a RAD counter, tell me the condition of all my limbs, what skills I have, maps, and it should double as a flash light.

  54. Nobody ever read comic books? by Virtucon · · Score: 1

    Dick Tracy had it all.

    Frankly, all I want from a watch is: the time.

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    1. Re:Nobody ever read comic books? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There are tons of (GSM) Phones in watch form factor from China starting from $46 onwards.
        Due to power consumptions etc, I won't expect 3G or LTE to be in this form factor.

      I guess they have all seen or read Dick Tracy.

      http://dx.com/s/phone+watch

    2. Re:Nobody ever read comic books? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Frankly, all I want from a watch is: the time.

      What, an alarm is too "out there" of a feature for you?

  55. Been done before by phorm · · Score: 1

    Well, to start with this isn't a new concept. The pebble project has been around for awhile, though it's more of a smartphone interface in some ways.

    That said:
    * An "idle" time of at least 1mo.
    * Waterproof, inductive charging
    * Bluetooth/wifi
    * Ability to sync calendar events/email etc from the cloud (internet and OTA from other devices)
    * If cellular-compatible, the ability to act as a hotspot
    * Ability to act as a bluetooth speaker/mic for other smart-devices
    * Infrared (would make a dandy universal remote)

  56. iFisting by Hognoxious · · Score: 4, Funny

    Apple fanboi 1: take your ring off, it's scratching my bunghole!
    Apple fanboi 2: I'm not wearing a ring.
    Apple fanboi 1: OK, take your watch off!

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    1. Re:iFisting by Dishevel · · Score: 2

      My idea of a "Smart Watch" would be one that
      A) Tells the time.
      B) Just big enough to see the time easily.
      C) Stopwatch function.
      D) Able to see it in the dark.
      E) WTF? Nothing else.

      Fucking Apple.

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    2. Re:iFisting by tchdab1 · · Score: 1

      I think that's just a watch. Nothing "smart" about those features.
      A "smartwatch" would interact with you, your changing environment, various networks and databases, to pass information to and from you, and do things based on your commands and other things you do. You won't interact much with it directly because it's tiny, but you could "program it" (set the settings) and read it from a larger device.

    3. Re:iFisting by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Most of us already have this.
      What we need on our wrist is a simple, flawless, easy to use timepiece.

    4. Re:iFisting by tooyoung · · Score: 1

      Dislike of Apple and making fun of homosexuals seems to go hand in hand based on highly moderated posts on /.

    5. Re:iFisting by carnivore302 · · Score: 1

      I can come up with a shorter list. My idea of a smart watch would be one that

      A) is a Rolex Submariner

      And I'm sure James Bond agrees.

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    6. Re:iFisting by bingoUV · · Score: 1

      But outside of buzzword world, smart could be taken to mean smart enough to not try what the user doesn't want.

      While I have no pony in the race, smart need not always mean cramming of features into smaller devices.

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    7. Re:iFisting by Dixie_Flatline · · Score: 1

      Yes, by all means, let's get angry at Apple for a product we haven't seen yet, with specifications that we don't know and with a form-factor that is--at best--undecided.

      Apple hasn't said they're making this. There are rumors, but those are wrong all the time. For all we know, they're playing with wearable computer prototypes that go in your shoe or that you wear as a necklace or a weird Apple hat. And even if they ARE working on a watch, there's no guarantee that they'll ever release it. Maybe they're just looking at ways to strap your phone to your body, or maybe it's a Fitbit/Jawbone/Basis-like device.

        Cool your jets. We don't actually know a goddamn thing at the moment.

    8. Re:iFisting by marcello_dl · · Score: 1

      Indeed. Do the thing smart appliances do:
      In soviet russia iWatch watches YOU!
      Ditto elsewhere.

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  57. Personally by Murdoch5 · · Score: 0

    Stop making high tech watches. They look, act and just appear ridiculous, you look like a complete fool wearing one and you simply have no need what so ever for computing ability in your watch. The fact that company's like Rolex or Citizen aren't releasing "smart" or "iWatches" means there is no market for it. Out of the biggest and most powerful watch making company's you wont see this catch on, people want a professional, sexy looking watch that does what it is meant to, tell time. I don't want anything else in there that can screw that up, my current watch will keep time insanely well that is what I bought it for. The day when I go to Apple or any other computer company for a watch is the day I also apply for my mental status to be declared retarded. Leave the watch alone, it works, it looks good and it doesn't need to change. Leave the watch making to company's like Citizen or Rolex or the other 50 that do it well, I don't need a friggen Apple logo on the bottom of a white watch that simple looks horrible.

    1. Re:Personally by CanHasDIY · · Score: 1

      Stop making high tech watches. They look, act and just appear ridiculous, you look like a complete fool wearing one and you simply have no need what so ever for computing ability in your watch.

      Yea, this. Plus, for every "feature" crammed in, there's one more thing to go wrong.

      I like my current, 'antiquated' watch, that does one thing and does it well - tells me what time it is.

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    2. Re:Personally by _anomaly_ · · Score: 1

      I'm biased (waiting for my watch to come mid-March), but I'd generally agree with you with the exception of the Pebble. It's the first smartwatch that I didn't immediately think "I honestly wouldn't want to be seen wearing that thing".

      I don't buy into your reasoning that since Rolex or Citizen (or the many others) aren't making smartwatches, there isn't a market for it. Those companies make watches, not smartwatches. And yes, there's a big difference. Apple, Pebble, Sony, etc. wouldn't try to compete in making "real" watches just as Rolex or Citizen would be ill-advised to compete in the smartwatch market. Speaking of which... the market is tiny at the moment, but I'd bet just about anything that in a year or two it'll be exponentially bigger.

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    3. Re:Personally by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They look, act and just appear ridiculous, you look like a complete fool wearing one and you simply have no need what so ever for computing ability in your watch.

      If it's truly high-tech, no one will notice you have it. If you look like a fool, then all that means is that the design is ugly, so someone noticed it.

    4. Re:Personally by dgatwood · · Score: 1

      I can't see myself actively doing anything with a device that small, but I wouldn't mind a watch that acts as a passive display for info from my phone (caller, text messages, meeting name/time/location, etc.) so that I don't have to get it out of my pocket every time it buzzes to find out why it is buzzing.

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    5. Re:Personally by CanHasDIY · · Score: 1

      I can't see myself actively doing anything with a device that small, but I wouldn't mind a watch that acts as a passive display for info from my phone (caller, text messages, meeting name/time/location, etc.) so that I don't have to get it out of my pocket every time it buzzes to find out why it is buzzing.

      Yea, I'll grant that would be pretty handy.

      Maybe a flexible OLED touchscreen, so you can bang out a quick text response to important stuff, too... But that might be taking it too far.

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  58. Options... by DarthVain · · Score: 1

    Meh. Just have it run on blood. It could have the needles that would pierce your skin each time you put it on, and little micro pumps to suck up the blood.

    Heck with all the Vampire mania going on with tweens these days it should be an instant hit. Put that sparkly faced vamphunk on it and the market will swoon.

    You could of course just surgically implant it into your wrist, though upgrades might be expensive.

    But for the really chronos fan, have a chip implanted directly into your brain, that using your neural connections not only powers itself using the electrical impulses of your brain, but also sends the time information directly into the neural cluster that is responsible for keeping track of time, making you never forget what time it current is and when you turned into a cyborg. I've heard with the recent advances that the death rate is down to only 10%

    Or you could use a series of mechinical gears and switches attached to a spring, and strap it to your wrist.

    There is a nuclear powered quartz watch that will last for 10,000 years, however it also weighs 1000kg, produces a lot of scalding steam, consumes a lot of water, and causes cancer of the wrist.

    Or Apple could realize that no one wears a watch anymore because they all use their Phone to tell time. Unless they want to put out their Phone buisness so that no one uses a Phone to call anyone, they just use their watch. That just seems overly complicated and unproductive however.

    1. Re:Options... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I like the blood thing. Apple could inject addictive drugs so people keep wearing the iWatch and want another one for the other wrist.

  59. Small is smart by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    number one feature for me is that it's NOT a huge chunky monstrousity.

    (number one failing of most smart watches is they try to include everything and end up huge)

  60. sunrise alarm by Laxori666 · · Score: 1

    Built-in GPS so the government^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^Hyou always know where you are. Use the GPS location to figure out when the sun rises and sets, and allow setting alarms in relation to that (e.g. 10 mins after sunrise). That way you always wake up with the sun. Winning!

    1. Re:sunrise alarm by Laxori666 · · Score: 1

      How the @#$% do I get strike-through to work? I tried s, del, strike, strikeout, strikethrough, and none of them worked. Yes I enabled HTML Formatting for comments.

    2. Re:sunrise alarm by DuBois · · Score: 1

      We could get rid of daylight-wasting time if everyone used one of these. It then wouldn't matter where you are. We'd all be synched to the sun.

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  61. An obvious one by Dunbal · · Score: 0

    The ability to burn your wrist down to the bone with a failing battery. Tie this in with some software and you have a nifty little reminder app.

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  62. microUSB mass storage by fermion · · Score: 2

    Although I understand and support Apple's dock connector(historically USB was unreliable and slow, so a combined USB firewire port was great for many of us) USB is sufficient now, and the proprietary connector seems a bit outdated. I would hope that Apple would put a simple micro USB. It wold be a good mass storage device.

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    1. Re:microUSB mass storage by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      USB (especially the smaller size ones) still has the problem of being susceptible to damage over time when you plug/unplug the cable many times every day for a few years.

      For example I have a pair of expensive bluetooth headphones that use MicroUSB to charge the internal battery. After about 6 months the USB port is so loose the cable falls out frequently even when it's just sitting on my desk charging.

      With Apple's new lightning cable, I can pick the phone up by the cord and swing it around my head cowboy style - it won't come unplugged.

    2. Re:microUSB mass storage by Anubis+IV · · Score: 1

      No doubt, micro-USB is nice, but without exceeding the limits set by the standards (which is what's typically done by most manufacturers), there's no way to quickly charge many of today's devices. Moreover, I've known many people (myself included) who have managed to damage micro-USB plugs because of how flimsy they are, be it by trying to insert them the wrong way or accidentally pinching them. Plus, they're finicky enough that if you're in the dark or trying to reach behind something to plug it in, they're almost impossible to connect.

      Apple's new Lightning connector isn't perfect, but it does solve all of those issues rather well (i.e. it's reversible, structurally sound, incapable of being pinched, provides necessary power, and designed to be easy to insert), while still maintaining rather trivial compatibility with micro-USB via adapters. Additionally, you're guaranteed that any device you can directly connect it to is specifically designed to work with your device, rather than with micro-USB, where devices you plug into may or may not work with your device, depending on what audio/video standards your mobile device and the other piece of hardware implement (assuming they implement any at all). Call me cynical, but those all seem like very good reasons to go with a proprietary solution, rather than something that I would agree is "sufficient".

    3. Re:microUSB mass storage by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Silly troll, industry standard connectors have no place with Apple's mobile products!

    4. Re:microUSB mass storage by Sockatume · · Score: 1

      Expect something more like Magsafe. The "pebble" watch uses a magnetically-gripped contact charger because it lets them seal the case of the phone, making it water proof.

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    5. Re:microUSB mass storage by quacking+duck · · Score: 1

      USB is sufficient now, and the proprietary connector seems a bit outdated. I would hope that Apple would put a simple micro USB.

      That ship has sailed, unfortunately. By introducing the Lightning connector last fall, Apple's made it clear they won't be using micro USB on any of their current or upcoming portable devices.

  63. The typical user wish list by sl4shd0rk · · Score: 1

    It should at least play MP3s and Video. Not flash though because that would probably get too hot. It should also link up to my iTunes whenever I am near my computer and automatically sync whatever is in there to the watch. I also thing 2TB of storage isn't asking for the world, I mean c'mon this is 2013. HDMI out should be and option as well as USB3. I mean, it already does Video, we covered that, I should have a way to present that on the projector at work. USB should be available but optional so it doesn't give bad press to the iPad (lollerz.. that still sounds like a cyberspace feminine hygeine product doesn't it?). There should be a solar panel for recharging the battery as well as a power jack that charges using the (optional) USB port. I suppose you could charge over the HDMI port too, but I don't know. Lastly, it should be able to make phone calls on it so I don't have to dig my iPhone out of my pocket every time I want to make a call. That should really cut down on the amount of scratches on the glass. Lastly, there should be an Otterbox case available for it. Nothing fancy or bulky you know, just a waterproof case so I can go swimming with it. Oh, and It should be small and light. and thin. Nothing bigger than like a quarter or maybe a half-dollar coin. lollers.. Who's going to want like this brick thing hanging off their wrist?

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  64. None by Coward+Anonymous · · Score: 2

    I stopped wearing a watch over a decade ago (years before I had a mobile phone) and have never missed it. There are so many clocks around most of us there is no need for a watch.

    I for one hope I won't be forced to wear one again in a world requiring them for payments.

    1. Re:None by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But I always know where to find the time without having to look around for a clock or pull a phone out of my pocket. It's $10 for convenience.

    2. Re:None by evil_aaronm · · Score: 1

      I still wear a watch, but mine is a little different than others: it buzzes. I need a hearing aid, but don't always wear it - like when I'm sleeping - so my buzz watch acts as my alarm clock. If Apple's purported watch has a buzz mode, particularly in response to iDevice alerts, I could see it being very useful to folks like me who don't always hear the alarms or alerts going off on their iPod Touches. iPhones can buzz, but I don't have an iPhone.

  65. Dogs protected the lawn, then upgrade to CCTV... by cervesaebraciator · · Score: 1

    [...] so we had to upgrade [...] so we had to upgrade [...] but still - we had to upgrade [...] Now here's something new that we'll have to upgrade to.

    You know, you can still buy all those things (though, calculator watches are admittedly harder to find now than pocket watches). You don't have to buy any of it if you don't want. Though, I might recommend one with a camera. If you place it right, and it can record video, you could use it as a security camera to catch those darn kids, should they get on your lawn.

  66. Phone, Music Player, Internet, Apps by cod3r_ · · Score: 1

    And anything james bond has in his watch that looks cool.

  67. Here is my list by backslashdot · · Score: 1

    In addition to the obvious things like GPS, Siri, blutetooth, apps, and phone call response/averting like the ability to answer a call in speaker phone mode with a tap or gesture:

    1. Always-on voice control -- if the toy R2D2 robot running on double A batteries can have it, why cant a modern device (it wont consume much power, it's listening only for a specific keyword(s)).? One of the keywords can be a distress codeword that can call 911 or help and activates (GPS) tracking. Note, Always-on voice control is different than Siri which requires you to press a button.
    2. Tap anywhere, including on the outside of the strap to answer the phone.
    3. Heart rate and other health or distress vital signs monitor. An IR camera and other sensors facing downwards at the skin will probably be the best way to implement this ... though the first versions can be electricity based.
    4. Ability to quickly send a canned text or voice message when you cannot answer the phone -- Ideally the UI will allow for this even in darkness when you are in a movie theater.
    5. A pulse system that allows people to send you basic text-style messages without you having to read it. For example, if you are in a meeting and your friend wants to tell you she's gotten home .. she can send a short vibration sequence -- kinda like Morse code. The phone will vibrate in a specific pattern first to tell you it's her message, and then it will vibrate out the message. Doesn't have to be vibration only .. any sort of touch/skin sense thing I suppose.
    6. Finger gesture to text character/word as a keyboard substitute.
    7. USB 3/lighting connector.
    8. NFC
    9. Seamless data sync/integration with phone and other devices.

    The above features are what I would expect in the first edition, the second version should have a miniature camera, thumbprint recognition.

    There are a few other features I don't want to list here because I know Apple is gonna snag 'em and patent these features. I don't mind the snagging I don't like the patenting. After all, I am not bitter that 2 years after I mentioned that a large touchscreen phone and voice UIs would sell really well .. they announced the iPhone. Proof: http://hardware.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=163341&cid=13644457

  68. This already exists watchband for ipod nano by Cito · · Score: 1

    the iWatch already exists using iOS on ipod nano

    http://www.amazon.com/Wrist-Jockey-Casual-Grid-watch/dp/B004B7FXHI/ref=cm_lmf_tit_4

    there's no need for a new device, this works just fine

  69. Get me laid by guantamanera · · Score: 1

    My rolex gets me laid. I wish I was joking but is true, and I consider that a feature.

    1. Re:Get me laid by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My fake Rolex works just as well...

    2. Re:Get me laid by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ditto. My Submariner is always catching a ladies eye and usually once that happens it only gets better.

  70. Smartwatch by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    How about a flashing red "It's later than you think !" feature ?

  71. Easy by Issarlk · · Score: 1

    It should beep if your smartphone gets out of bluetooth range (ie, you're forgeting it).

  72. Biometrics and business cards by mveloso · · Score: 1

    1. Exchange business cards on contact. That would be nice.

    2. Do a quick background check on people that I touch. Medical, business, personal, etc and send the result to google glasses or some other display so I can read it in real time. A disease check would be nice too.

    3. Teleprompter. How convenient!

    4. If I die, the watch should alarm and send the appropriate notifications.

    5. Whatever a fitbit does too. Heck, it's there.

    6. Complain if my phone goes out of range. Very handy.

    7. Charge using my body's electrical field/motion/whatever.

    8. Buy me a drink, remotely. F*ck the bartender - bring the drink here, to me, now.

    9. It should look cool. I mean, it's a f*ucking smart watch, so it has to look smart. It could be as big as Wonder Woman's bangles for all I care.

    10. At some point it should be embeddable.

  73. Proximity color sensor by theurge14 · · Score: 1

    Some sort of proximity color sensor to detect the color scheme of your wardrobe and adjust the screen settings accordingly.

    The new iTunes already does this with album art in album view now, it's subtle at first but pretty striking.

  74. Who precisely is this aimed at? by gallondr00nk · · Score: 1

    Younger people, speaking generally, don't tend to wear watches. The logic being that you've already got other devices that can tell you the time, such as a phone.

    So if it's a "smart watch" then you're duplicating a load of stuff that would be easier to do on a phone already. If it's a fashionable normal watch but with patent troll rounded edges, then why would people need one anyway?

    I'm assuming it'll be something else entirely. Apple, as much as I'm not fond of them, don't really release that many complete failures these days.

  75. A lanyard or a clip by rossdee · · Score: 1

    A lanyard or a clip or a chain

    For the last 30+ years I have worked in industries where wearing a wrist watch was innconvenient due to hygiene requirements of frequent hadwashing (Meat industry, food industry, child care and now elderly care)

    So I want a timepiece that hangs arounfdmy neck, or is clipped to a pocket or belt.

    Being visible in the dark is also a requirement (I work night shift you insensitive clods)

    An independant-of-internet-connection GPS and compass would be useful, especially in bowing or deep snow (I walk to work)

    1. Re:A lanyard or a clip by neurovish · · Score: 1

      flava-flav? that you?

  76. It's just a wearable device by wagr · · Score: 1

    Calling it a watch would be misleading. Smartphones today could be called an iWatch as they mimic those watches we kept in a pocket (maybe on a chain or strap) and pulled them out when we wanted to know the time. Just that now we expect it to do more than tell time.

    I imagine something a wider (along the forearm) than the old wristwatches we loved 20 years ago to give a reasonable* size screen. The rest works a lot like a smartphone.

    *reasonable:less of an adjustment than we made to a smartphone screen after attaching larger and larger screens to our desktop computers.

  77. All of them by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Basically you wouldn't want to leave any out since then there'd be some missing.

  78. Let me say what it shouldn't have... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ..a smartwatch should not need to sync with iTunes, not should need gigs worth of patch updates - that much is clear.

    Telling the actual time should be a reasonable request also/.

  79. Hudson Hawk Time by Ukab+the+Great · · Score: 1

    Even if it doesn't accurately tell time, you could have it constantly play MP3 files of songs with known times. If it's 5:00PM when Train's Hey Soul Sister (3:37) starts, at the end of the song you know it's 5:03:37PM. Then Ke$ha's c'mon (3:22 radio edit version) starts playing, and at the end you know it's 5:06:59PM. And so on.

    1. Re:Hudson Hawk Time by fuzzywig · · Score: 1

      Surely you want tracks like "Seven Minutes to Midnight" by Wah Heat, or 9 to 5 by Dolly Parton?

  80. A host of ideas come to mind by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Medical information. Not just blood pressure and heart rate, but your actual medical information like allergies, medical history, etc. Instant info access for paramedics or even 911 with the next idea...

    Phone Integration. No not a phone watch, but a smart display capable of displaying alert from your phone such as new email, new text messages (and possibly display the message), missed calls, calendar alerts. From computer to phone to watch. There is little need for the watch to allow replying, a larger device is needed for that usually, but a phone accessory that is useful and lets you gather and display information from your phone without having to pull it out would be handy in a lot of ways.

    Camera. Little memory and instant on capability. App on phone fixes orientation based on a tiny gyroscope in the watch and embedded information from it.

    Digital key sync
    NFC functions
    home control functions

    A list of things your phone can do but might be handier on a smaller device is essentially what a 'Smartwatch' should do. However battery is still the limiter, the more you want it to do the less like a watch it becomes and more like any other electronic device with their inherent limitations on daily usefulness.

  81. erm... by alostpacket · · Score: 1

    I think he was referring to jailbreaking / walled garden / etc.

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  82. Time travel by macbeth66 · · Score: 1

    So when I look down at my watch and realize I am late, I can set it back a few minutes. Or if I am stuck in a meeting, I can set it ahead a few minutes.

  83. The sky is the limit by beamed · · Score: 1

    What a depressing site this has become.

    Even if the idea of a smartwatch turns out to be not very viable in the end, generating all kinds of ideas for it should be fun. Instead 'smart-ass' useless comments dominate here.

    First, it could be beautiful, and adaptable to your own taste.
    There is the silent alert function, you feel something and look at your watch. Fast and natural.
    Then, there is the sensor platform, for sports and exercising, like the Nike FuelBand, but all kinds of sensors can be imagined. With Bluetooth, it might even download/upload data (even time/location/internet) from/to a nearby device such as a phone or camera, for direct display or as an input.
    It could be an app platform. Anyone could come up with useful or fun applications.
    It could act as a key/passcode or remote or wallet or NFC device
    It could trigger a SOS with the right touch-gesture.

    There are endless possibilities, and only one needs to be a killer-feature to make it another must-have breakthrough device. Apple could throw a few hundred million at it, and it would be a good gamble. If only to develop the creative potential in the company. Probably, it already has done so. It's fun to work there, I guess.

  84. Instantly readable display by Goonie · · Score: 2

    The only point of a device like this is that it gives you a UI that doesn't require fishing through a pocket or handbag. However, pretty much all smart watches have foundered because the screens couldn't display enough useful information beyond the time, and the buttons were too small and fiddly to be convenient. Is there enough useful information that you don't want to fish out your smartphone for that you'd be prepared to get one of these? I dunno. Short messages (SMS, Twitter), appointment notifications, some of the location specific stuff proposed on the Google Goggles video maybe. And it's a bit less creepy than Google Goggles, too.

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  85. The smartwatch needs to be dumb. by Lumpy · · Score: 1

    I want it to be a dumb display that my phone pushes what I want to it. Make it a 320X320 display and nothing more.

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  86. Re:time, stopwatch, countdown timer, alarm, indigl by alexander_686 · · Score: 1

    100m may be oeverkill. Maybe 40m?

    http://www.xkcd.com/909/

  87. Get a nice watch... by CohibaVancouver · · Score: 1

    I know I'll get flamed, because on Slashdot 'looking nice' means wearing socks with your Tevas (preferably black), but there are a few basic things men of a certain age should have - One of them is a nice watch. I have an Omega Seamaster that I've worn pretty much every day for the past seven years. I just can't see the need to put a portable computer on my wrist - It just screams 'unprofessional.'

  88. I have one already by BetaDays · · Score: 2

    I have a Motoactv that is now defunct, thanks to Google only wanting the patents off of Motorola. It's a great device it's an MP3 player, exercise tracker that ties into a heart rate monitor or cadence sensor for biking, displays calories burned and number of steps taken in a day, It's got golf courses on it so you can see the distance stuff needed to play and keep your scores (I don't play golf), it has a GPS to show your route (wish it was more interactive on what you can do other than just see your you just ran) and the statistics that it keeps for your workouts. When tired into the website (it also has a android app) I can see exactly where I was on a map and show what my heart rate was, what song I was listening to at that moment, speed of my run, elevation of where I was. It tells time to. But it doesn't have an alarm clock also it doesn't vibrate, during workouts there is a coach that gives you information it's an electronic voice (a nice female sounding voice) , The device allows you to also race yourself with tones of if your running better or slower against your last workout. It's Bluetooth enabled so you can use Bluetooth headphones and also for notifications from the phone - weather, facebook, etc. Also has the ability to have a corded headphones if you want and you can then also use it as a radio. It's water resistant so a run in the rain is not a problem, wish it was water proof. Also it has to be charged every day. I really love it. I'm just said that once it dies I will not be able to get a replacement, although there are other ones that are out there that have gps and tie into online exercise communities they don't have an mp3 player built in. I do wish the battery lasted longer but when I'm not running I'm sitting at my computer so I let it charge then.
    https://motoactv.com
    Google if you read this please don't kill this device I would love to buy a version 2 when the battery dies. Oh the battery is not replaceable either.

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  89. It should replace other items by roc97007 · · Score: 2

    A smart watch should replace one or more devices I'm required to carry with me, not add to the geek loadout. For instance, if it can do the things my phone currently can do, including provide hotspot for tablet or laptop, and do it well enough that my phone can stay home, then it would be a sought after item. (For me at least.) Bonus points if it has well-integrated, easy to use 2 way TV capability, as I've wanted to own a Dick Tracy watch since I was a kid. But if it's just a bluetooth appliance that talks to other devices that I also must carry, then fail.

    What I suspect we will actually see is a device that interacts with your ipod and iphone and ipad and ilaptop and doesn't provide any unique capabilities or information. It'll be an alpha-geek toy of limited usefulness but supreme bragging rights. Yawn. Just another reason for me to steer clear of the Apple store on launch day.

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  90. Probably not worth the cost by zap1992 · · Score: 1

    With all the features people want in this thing, the battery will probably have to be pretty big or you won't get much use out of it. (It will be enough of a change to have to plug my watch in every night; I don't want to have to do it every few hours.) Which means the only way anyone is going to release something like this is if it has very limited features--maybe just time, date, a few basic alerts, etc., which means it probably won't be worth the cost. But then again, people will spend $500 on a watch that keeps worse time than the one that came with my breakfast cereal, so you never know.

    1. Re:Probably not worth the cost by dkf · · Score: 1

      With all the features people want in this thing, the battery will probably have to be pretty big or you won't get much use out of it.

      My (real) watch doesn't take batteries or need winding at all; it takes all its power from the motion of my arms (through a small weight, a little generator and a capacitor). It's also around 20 years old. It should be possible to make the smart watch need no explicit powering at all through appropriate parasitizing of environmental energy sources.

      Or failing that, it should run Linux. Just because.

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  91. Yup - agree completely by Okian+Warrior · · Score: 1

    I agree completely.

    Companies think the only way to make money is with subscriptions and monthly fees. And when their service reaches end of life and the server goes away, the functionality is lost.

    If only they'd concentrate on making a good product, there'd be tons of innovative uses for the information.

    I suppose it's the result of modern "cost accounting" practices.

  92. Good ideas by Mr_Silver · · Score: 1

    Bruce Tognazzini (founder of the Apple Human Interface Group) has some pretty interesting ideas about what an Apple watch should do.

    Personally, I'll stick with my (practically indestructible) G-Shock for sports and my mechanical watch for everything else. The latter doesn't need charging, looks great with a suit or casual clothes and I don't have to draw attention to myself when I take it out of my pocket, turn it to the correct orientation and press the power button to view the time - but I appreciate that my views will probably differ from the general Slashdot consensus.

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  93. Biometric Authentication by fhage · · Score: 1
    I'd like a watch that held my encryption keys and acted as the fob for two-factor authentication. It should ID me for security doors.

    It needs to verify that I'm the one wearing it via a heartbeat detector, fingerprint reader and/or DNA verification.

    It should have a reverse touch interface to signal alerts and to provide directions without having to look at the screen.

  94. Backup battery by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    A backup RTC battery so if the main one that powers the funky iOS stuff runs out you don't have to keep resetting the time. Or are they going to assume connectivity everywhere and pray the time will sync by ntp? The nice thing (for me) about watches is that they're wear-and-forget. Mine probably hasn't been off my wrist in weeks, I would hate one you have to take off and charge every night. Then again, I generally hate ones that aren't automatic mechanicals.

  95. The Gemini Man by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Invisibility. That's all.

  96. Irony: the iPhone killed the need for a watch by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    My phone tells me the time, so I haven't worn a watch since I got a phone and I will never wear a watch ever again.

  97. My list by backslashdot · · Score: 1

    In addition to the obvious things like GPS, Siri, blutetooth, apps, and phone call response/averting like the ability to answer a call in speaker phone mode with a tap or gesture:

    1. Always-on voice control -- if the toy R2D2 robot running on double A batteries can have it, why cant a modern device (it wont consume much power, it's listening only for a specific keyword(s)).? One of the keywords can be a distress codeword that can call 911 or help and activates (GPS) tracking. Note, Always-on voice control is different than Siri which requires you to press a button.
    2. Tap anywhere, including on the outside of the strap to answer or silence the phone or to view the time. Or maybe shake to silence. Will have to test to see which gestures or tap method is best.
    3. Heart rate and other health or distress vital signs monitor. An IR camera and other sensors facing downwards at the skin will probably be the best way to implement this ... though the first versions can be electricity based.
    4. Ability to quickly send a canned text or voice message when you cannot answer the phone -- Ideally the UI will allow for this even in darkness when you are in a movie theater.
    5. A pulse system that allows people to send you basic text-style messages without you having to read it. For example, if you are in a meeting and your friend wants to tell you she's gotten home .. she can send a short vibration sequence -- kinda like Morse code. The phone will vibrate in a specific pattern first to tell you it's her message, and then it will vibrate out the message. Doesn't have to be vibration only .. any sort of touch/skin sense thing I suppose.
    6. Finger gesture to text character/word as a keyboard substitute.
    7. USB 3/lighting connector.
    8. NFC
    9. Seamless data sync/integration with phone and other devices.
    10. buttonless slick design, face and bottom having a gentle curve to it.

    The above features are what I would expect in the first edition, the second version should have a miniature camera, thumbprint recognition.

    There are a few other features I don't want to list here because I know Apple is gonna snag 'em and patent these features. I don't mind the snagging I don't like the patenting. After all, I am not bitter that 2 years after I mentioned that a large touchscreen phone and voice UIs would sell really well .. they announced the iPhone. Proof: http://hardware.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=163341&cid=13644457 [slashdot.org]

    1. Re:My list by crutchy · · Score: 1

      but would it double as a cock ring?

    2. Re:My list by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      (it wont consume much power, it's listening only for a specific keyword(s)

      Well you have to listen to everything in order to filter out stuff.

      One of the keywords can be a distress codeword that can call 911

      I foresee nice pranks in public places!

  98. NTP by jbr439 · · Score: 1

    A "smartwatch" needs to support NTP or something very similar. Having to have to manually set the correct time on a watch every few weeks or months is ludicrous in this day and age.

  99. I would like to replace my old Casio Databanks... by antdude · · Score: 1

    I still wear one and don't use mobile phones since I am disabled and can't hold a smartphone correctly. A calculator watch works well for simple tasks. I'd like to see an PDA type like it. I know they exist, but they are big and heavy. :(

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  100. That's easy. by CCarrot · · Score: 1

    A pony.

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  101. Reaching by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Apple must only convince customers that the watch receives push notifications, and they will have an audience. In all sarcasm, though, it may need a side screen so that customers can see the time while they are reaching for their phones.

  102. 2+ redefinable diagonally-opposite buttons by Miamicanes · · Score: 1

    At least two tactile buttons (so you can feel the click in the dark), one in the lower-left edge, and one in the upper-right edge (so you can easily press them between the thumb and index finger of your right hand while wearing the watch on the left).

    The buttons should be 100% user-definable, be able to shift each other, and support double/triple/quadruple-clicks.

    Example: press lower-left button with thumb and keep it pressed; press and release upper-right button with index finger three times, then release lower-left button.

    Example: press and release middle button twice, press and release upper-right button twice, then press and release middle button once.

    The nice thing about two buttons that can shift each other is the staggering number of gestures you can create by allowing double/triple clicks prior to shift. For example:

    triple-click lower left, keeping it pressed down after the third, then press and release upper right button twice before releasing the lower left button.

    Personally, I'd want to add a third button, centered along the upper edge, to add further user-defined context to shifted multiclicks of the two diagonal buttons.

    Make the screen touchable, and you can even add variants with diagonal thumb-swipes while holding one of the buttons (before or after one or more shifted multiclicks, of course). And Graffiti. Graffiti-1, specifically, including the single-stroke alternates that I'm crippled without.

    Not that I've given the matter much thought, of course... or spent hours poring over Android's source trying to come up with some way of grafting low-latency hardkeys onto a case through the USB jack so I can have real tactile buttons even if the @#*$&@( manufacturers are determined to ram laggy, delayed touchscreens down our throats...

    1. Re:2+ redefinable diagonally-opposite buttons by Miamicanes · · Score: 1

      ^^^ Argh. 10 minutes editing and proofing, and still I somehow managed to miss the middle-button reference. Ignore any reference to "middle" button in the post above. Or know that I really want three buttons... with button #3 centered along the top edge so I can add additional context to multiclicks of the other two buttons...

  103. Meh. by B33rNinj4 · · Score: 1
  104. Automobile Remote Start by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    A Smartwatch should be able to unlock and start my car from a safe distance.

  105. Anti-Theft by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    iTheft is pretty common. If I could wirelessly mate the watch to my iThings which lock down when out of range of the watch I might consider it. Only to have my watch stolen along with my iPhone...

  106. Basic needs by LowlyWorm · · Score: 1

    It must be water proof. Beyond that it must display date and time. Knowing Apple, it will play music. GPS and photos would be nice.

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  107. A Smart Watch? by koan · · Score: 1

    It should be big enough to easily use, have a phone in it, and fit in my pocket... Because who in the hell wears a watch any more?

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  108. features? by Darinbob · · Score: 1

    To be honest, I can't think of a single feature such a watch would have other than to tell time. What's the purpose of it? Why is Apple building this? It is a jobs program, is it a piece of yuppie jewelry, or what?

    For several years now I have had to put up with unsufferably smug idiots telling me that my wrist watch is old fashioned and that anyone who's remotely important in the universe uses a smart phone in their pocket to tell what time it is. So now they've changed thier minds? Their smart-pocket-watch is too inconvenient and they want a smart-wrist-watch instead?

    Remember the good old days when you had a calculator wrist watch and everyone knew you were a nerd and thus you were socially ostracised for good reason, but you stuck with it because any true nerd does not follow the herd. Now you'll get essentially the same thing in a smart watch and all buyers will claim they've been nerds all along and that nerds are cool.

  109. Capacity to Find Cell Phone by LionKimbro · · Score: 4, Interesting

    One of the biggest advantage of a watch, is that it is practically ALWAYS on your body.

    So it should have a virtual button somewhere, to ** ring your cell phone ** for you, so that you can find it.

  110. Motion tracking by I+don't+want+to+spen · · Score: 1

    If you have a watch and a smartphone that communicate, maybe get them to be aware of their relative positions to open up a new gesture interface? Eg. change volume by raising your hand, hold your hand to your ear to make a call (assuming speaker/ mike in the watch communicating with phone in your pocket) etc. Okay, so who wants to define the gestures for surfing porn ...

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  111. Wristwatches are too thick by snsh · · Score: 1

    Biggest complaint I have about modern watches is the thickness. Watches today are no thinner than watches were forty years ago. Even 6mm thick still qualifies as a thin digital watch. The reason I don't wear watches anymore is because they're so bulky.

    Other complaint is that every dress watch on the market still has buttons/knobs on the side which scratch up your wrist. It should be straightforward to eliminate the crown, and set the time using an optical sensor you hold up to a computer, like the old Datalink watches from the 1990's.

  112. To Quote Louis Winthorpe by multimediavt · · Score: 1

    "Look, it tells time simultaneously in Monte Carlo, Beverly Hills, London, Paris, Rome, and Gstaad."

  113. VNC by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'd want to VNC into my phone.

  114. Start with the basics by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    1) Tell time
    2) Long lifespan battery charge (in terms of years)
    3) Cheap
    4) Lightweight/unobstrusive
    5) Waterproof

  115. Clash of technological Powers?!?! by FixedDice · · Score: 1

    Imagine....You can someday hone the power of both the iWatch and Google Glasses....Beware....because no mere mortal can keep powers such as those at bay for too long....

  116. hand tracking by miroku000 · · Score: 1

    They could use magnets accelerometers etc to track the position of your hand relative to your phone/tablet. Then, you can wave your hand or do certain gestures to control your phone/tablet. Add a led and use it more or less like a wii controller to interact with a smart tv. Use it with a small projector to do something cool.

  117. Existing Examples by phasmal · · Score: 1

    Assumedly something like the I'm Smart or the Sony Smart Watch, or the Pebble.

    I'm personally keen on the latter because it sounds more hackable, but I'd be assuming that's not where Apple would be coming from...

  118. Mobile phone versus Watch by angel'o'sphere · · Score: 1

    My first mobile phone was pretty big. You definitely could not put it into your jeans pocket.
    Since you can do that I don't use a watch anymore ... my phone (and smartphone) show the time quite well.

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  119. Would keep me from having to pull my phone out by Joosy · · Score: 1

    I want a "watch" let's call it, or rather, something I wear on my wrist, that is connected (wirelessly, I mean ...) to my phone as a slave but let's me do certain things without taking my phone out of my pocket!

    Such as ...

    • see what time it is
    • when somebody calls, see who's calling, and let me answer by touching the screen so I can talk on my Bluetooth headset
    • start/stop/pause next/prev controls for music
    • see if I have anything scheduled in the next few hours
    • see if I've gotten any texts, and what they are
    • see if I've gotten any emails, and let me see who it's from and the subject as well as maybe just the beginning of the content

    Oh, and the form factor should be rectangular, landscape mode.

    I could imagine "screensavers" (or, I guess, wallpapers) being a big deal on these things, too ... as would photo rotation apps.

    And once we get thing bendable color e-paper or oled displays or whatever you can have your whole forearm covered with a display. When you're not actively using it for viewing information it could be all colorful and arty, eliminating the need for tattoos.

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  120. NTP by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    NTP

  121. Urgently needed product by mattr · · Score: 1

    I would like to see a product specifically aimed at elderly and invalids.
    A prospective user would be an elderly person who can barely see (can read large books with a magnifying glass), has a lot of trouble walking, is prone to dangerous falls, may be wheelchair bound, but does not like to have prosthetic devices or things around the neck, or invasions of privacy such as having a live-in helper. Basically, imagine any of the geeks here in 40-50 years if you are still alive then and have turned into a crotchety geek with (hope not!) diabetes-induced illnesses.

    Key features:
    ONE BIG BUTTON - this is something Apple gets right.
    100% voice operated and voice response, so you do not need to see the screen or even have much feeling in your fingertips.
    Ability to trigger by voice without using button
    Ability to set watch to be extremely loud
    Allow extremely loud settings to be for specific features (like telling the time, which you would only do when you are alone)
    Ability to understand weak voices and whispers
    Ability to rename the trigger code word (for example to "Computer" not "Siri")
    Call for help (Computer, help!) - automatic connection to a 911 dispatcher to get maybe an ambulance
    Call people on the phone by name (Computer, call ). Optionally allow a watch setting to require a confirmation, answerable by "Yes" or "No".
    Skype people by name
    Speak the time, clearly enunciating. (What time is it)
    Speak the date (What is the date)
    Play music (Computer, play )
    Detect heartbeat / bodily status, and if asleep or not. There must be some way to do this without being evasive (such as maybe a pad that fits into a wheelchair seat back? Or watch back?)
    Detect things like refrigerator door opening/closing, microwave use, flame on in over/on stove, lights on/off, ambient temperature, doors open/closing, home security. I just thought of it but what would happen if a home alarm went off and the only person home is someone who is unable to walk to the control panel and reset it? They could be bombarded with high-pitched sound for hours without being able to do anything about it and go nuts.
    Additional functions:
    Voice operate appliances, such as setting microwave or room thermostat
    Camera (best if it includes infrared and sonar), covers area in front of you if you hold the watch so you can see its face to allow:
    - obstacle tracking alerts (Stop! The dog is lying on the floor in front of you!)
    - can zoom in on text or displays (e.g. thermostat, microwave, book), do real time OCR and read it aloud.
    - allow display of what the camera sees on a TCP/IP wirelessly connected client, i.e. a big tablet or other flat screen. So you can put your hand over a book and read the text in huge letters on an ipad or android tablet in hugely magnified letters. Also, allow real time image processing (high contrast, magnification) so it is possible to make out the face of the person across the table from you.
    - detachable bluetooth camera (since moving your arm to use the watch as a magnifying glass will be very awkward)
    Light of variable intensity (can be too bright and surprising when shined on a book, but you may want a lot of light if you are trying to move in the dark).
    - multiple microphones, detect where something was dropped for example. (Computer, where is my fork, etc.)
    Basically a watch or even just an iphone sized device could be extremely useful and life-changing but an iphone touch display is definitely not usable by the people who would need it. I would actually say it is better to make this android based so it is more open. And make it possible to disable touch screen, or just make a couple of huge soft buttons, because it is 100 times easier to screw up using it for someone who needs assistive help if you are using a touch screen. Imagine you are totally drunk, or delirious from two all-nighters, it is nearly pitch dark and you are fumbling for something - like if you had a huge backpack with tons of pockets and you

    1. Re:Urgently needed product by betterprimate · · Score: 1

      When grandma dies, do I gets to have her iWatch?

  122. watch / dumb phone by DeBaas · · Score: 1

    I'd say for me:

    - just voice and text (and maybe temperature/weather)
    - phone build in! not a little me connected to another phone
    - waterproof, not so much for diving but at the beach you'd rather not leave it behind when swimming
    - Look like a normal watch, maybe just a one line old fashioned lcd for scrolling through a text message etc.
    - Input text method by i.e. using a ring (like on divers watches) that you rotate and press down to select a character
    - possibly an earpiece with expanding foam so that you can keep it in your watch (compressed) where it charges and when put in your ear expands to stay there
    - remote key for my car. Why carry around a key when your watch can double as a key.
    - be from a decent watch brand
    - maybe email... just maybe

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  123. Modified pebble by kakaburra · · Score: 1

    All the features in pebble + touch screen interface (those buttons look so hard). A colour screen would be nice too (if it doesn't affect battery life).

  124. It's about input. by betterprimate · · Score: 1

    I can foresee a watch that will rely less on voice input (i.e. Siri) but on "gestures". If there is a voice input, it will be secondary. It's primarily about touch. Think one or two or even three finger input.

  125. Two features that should omitted by ThatsNotPudding · · Score: 1

    Apple's monoculture and price tags.

  126. I need to be ready for the Fallout by cmdr_klarg · · Score: 1

    Pip-Boy 3000 please.

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  127. Some thoughts on features by elistan · · Score: 1
    • High-res ambient light display, possibly e-ink, with toggle-able backlight. It has to look good, first of all.
    • GPS, accelerometer and biometric sensors. APIs into the sensors could be used to track sleeping patterns, workout intensity, heart arrhythmia, etc.
    • Encryption chip. Everything gets encrypted.
    • Token generator for two-factor authentication. Token can be displayed as a PIN, passphrase, 2D barcode, or even an audio signal depending on the input the computer, website, ATM, phone rep, etc. is looking for.
    • NFC, with proper security. Pay for things without having to pull out wallet or phone or keychain. Communicate with car and home locks to lock and unlock. (With proper safeguards to prevent inadvertently locking or unlocking.)
    • Microphone. With "evidence" mode streaming to online storage. Void where prohibited by law.
    • WiFi, cellular data and bluetooth. Connect to headsets and cars for voice communication. Establish hotspot for tablet and notebook use.
    • Fingerprint reader, voice recognition or facial recognition. (Assuming these methods are more secure than a four-digit PIN, and easier to use than a 12-character alphanumeric+symbol passphrase.)
    • Voice recognition. For those input and query needs that a small screen isn't good for. (Eg, "Watch, make reservations at Abacus for tomorrow at 7pm." "Watch, what was last night's final score?" "Watch, add milk to my grocery list.")
    • Camera for video conferencing. Maybe. I'm not sure how useful that would actually be and hardware packaging would be an issue.
    • Inductive charging would be nice for when you take the watch off at night, but only if the hardware is small enough. Some magnetic port otherwise.
    • 64GB of storage. Play movies and music on compatible entertainment systems via WiFi.
    • Must have at least one week battery life when used just as a watch. 24 hours when used as a phone. And must have 10 hour battery life when used as a hotspot for typical browsing.
  128. or perhaps ... iClock by previewlounge · · Score: 1

    .. could be an alternative working title. except that might be too similar to another product in development. :/

  129. Features don't matter by jedwidz · · Score: 1

    If John Travolta wears one when he's piloting his Boeing, then I'm buying.

  130. Will it really be called iWatch? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Given the reliability and data quality of ankle trackers used on sex offenders, maybe Apple should consider up-ending that market with the iSexOffenderTracker? It will be tracking else more effectively than anything else, so why not them as well?