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Google Chrome Getting Audio Indicators To Show You Noisy Tabs

An anonymous reader writes "Google is working on identifying Chrome tabs that are currently playing audio (or recording it). The feature is expected to show an audio animation if a tab is broadcasting or recording sound. François Beaufort spotted the new feature, a part of which is already available in the latest Chromium build."

155 comments

  1. Good idea by swinferno · · Score: 5, Interesting

    This could actually be useful...hopefully FF will follow

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    1. Re:Good idea by Mashiki · · Score: 1

      I agree, I hope it shows up in steam too which uses a similar kit for it's in-game web browser.

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    2. Re:Good idea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Better yet, each tab should have an individual "mute" button, enabled by default. Nothing makes me close a tab quicker than unwanted noise.

    3. Re:Good idea by rainmouse · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Im glad they came up with this rather than having Apple patent it.

    4. Re:Good idea by Eraesr · · Score: 1

      Yeah I think it's a great idea. I just hope it works beyond HTML5 implementations of audio and is also able to tell me if plugins are playing audio (like flash or silverlight animations).

    5. Re:Good idea by mwvdlee · · Score: 5, Interesting

      How about muting all tabs except the one currently open with the option of enabling/disabling any tab explicitely?

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    6. Re:Good idea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

      I think this is the only reasonable solution...

      If I open 20 tabs, I don't want to mute 10. I just only want the current one...

      and I would love a mute button for the current one...

    7. Re:Good idea by cbiltcliffe · · Score: 3, Funny

      Don't worry, Apple's probably going to patent it, anyway.

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    8. Re:Good idea by swilver · · Score: 1

      Yeah, I've been wanting that for years, but never managed to find a plugin that does exactly that.

    9. Re:Good idea by ikaruga · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Useful? What an understatement. This feature is could potentially being a life saver for the porn addicts browsing websites that open multiple tabs with video/chat feeds in the background.

    10. Re:Good idea by bgarcia · · Score: 1, Redundant

      That would slightly interfere with using streaming music sites like Pandora. I open that up in a tab & move on to other things, leaving it play in the background.

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    11. Re:Good idea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, it's a great start. All that's needed now is to tie in detection of auto-playing audio in a website to the protocol that allows you to punch advertisers in the face over the internet.

    12. Re:Good idea by psiclops · · Score: 2

      so unmute them.

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    13. Re:Good idea by telchine · · Score: 1

      Im glad they came up with this rather than having Apple patent it.

      Apple Records or Apple Computers?

    14. Re:Good idea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      What part of "with the option of enabling/disabling any tab explicitly" is it you don't understand?
      Or is this some kind of weird I-have-a-five-digit-user-id-so-i-don't-even-have-to-read-comments-HURR-DURR thingy?

    15. Re:Good idea by jimshatt · · Score: 1

      I eat Apples for breakfast! Muhahaha.

    16. Re:Good idea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      "Better yet, each tab should have an individual "mute" button, enabled by default. Nothing makes me close a tab quicker than unwanted noise."

      Amen, brother. Dozens of times I woke up the whole house when I was surfing for an hotel and their page insisted on playing loud music when opening up their fucking Flash-page.

      Additionally it's usually done for a 800*600 resolution and unzoomable so that you can't read shit on a modern HighRes screen. And often they play songs that I'm sure they don't have the rights for.

      Why is it that so many hotels and restaurants use that crap?

    17. Re:Good idea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How do you like them apples?

    18. Re:Good idea by arth1 · · Score: 1

      I have a suspicion it's only gong to work for a few select technologies, and perhaps just one or two OSes.
      There are so many ways to produce sound that it's hard, bordering on impossible, to catch them all.
      You can't even rely on the mixer, because you may bypass it (wmaudio, asio) or have a system that's so configurable in a convoluted 80s way that it's impossible to tell what it's doing (PulseAudio).
      So detection will likely be at the highest level, and limited.

      The question then is whether a 90% solution is good enough - if you get so used to it that you rely on it, you may find that a livecam ad suddenly starts blasting audio that the browser didn't detect. Murphy tells us that this will be while your boss or wife (but, I repeat myself) sits nearby.

    19. Re:Good idea by smittyoneeach · · Score: 5, Funny

      Thanks for making it harder for me to mix Beethoven and Lady GaGa, you insensitive clod.
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    20. Re:Good idea by fbobraga · · Score: 0

      I take advantage from notification messages with sound in various sites.

      so unmute them.

      You don't got it: notification sounds from non-active tabs

    21. Re:Good idea by Karl+Cocknozzle · · Score: 3

      How about muting all tabs except the one currently open with the option of enabling/disabling any tab explicitely?

      I like this, but the problem I see is the unexpected suddenly blast of noise when you switch tabs--if the irritating people who use sound on their web-site to grab your attention know most browsers are "muted by default" their tendency will be to have a constantly looping message playing (braying) at maximum volume so that if you switch to that tab you almost certainly hear the message. Or they'll figure out how to discern if their tab is "muted" and wait to start the noise until you shift focus to that page and "unmute" it.

      All things considered, it seems unfortunate that web-developers can't just get the message: "NO WE DON'T WANT TO HEAR YOUR FUCKING NOISE!"

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    22. Re:Good idea by fbobraga · · Score: 1

      And if it is a submarine patent right now? I smell problems in the future...

    23. Re:Good idea by ciderbrew · · Score: 1

      I don't know which song you've ruined most by pointing that out. I think always knew; but didn't tell myself. Whats the word for Un-eureka?



      You ruined Da-Da-Da-DUHHHHH the most :)

    24. Re:Good idea by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 1

      Amen, brother. Dozens of times I woke up the whole house when I was surfing for an hotel and their page insisted on playing loud music when opening up their fucking Flash-page.

      Additionally it's usually done for a 800*600 resolution and unzoomable so that you can't read shit on a modern HighRes screen. And often they play songs that I'm sure they don't have the rights for.

      Why is it that so many hotels and restaurants use that crap?

      Sounds like a golden opportunity to use the DMCA to make the web a slightly better place...

    25. Re:Good idea by fbobraga · · Score: 1

      +1 Informative!

    26. Re:Good idea by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 1

      Yes, it's a great start. All that's needed now is to tie in detection of auto-playing audio in a website to the protocol that allows you to punch advertisers in the face over the internet.

      If we told the MPAA that it would stop piracy, we could probably get the inclusion of a small claymore-style shaped charge in all new monitors mandated by law...

    27. Re:Good idea by fbobraga · · Score: 1
    28. Re:Good idea by wvmarle · · Score: 1

      I always wondered why FF insists on starting to play video on tabs that are in the background. It is so irritating that when browsing YouTube I always have to move to other tabs to pause videos (I often CTRL-click to open a video for later watching). Just not playing is much nicer. Just load that Flash thing, but don't run it unless it's in the foreground.

    29. Re:Good idea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

      First hit when doing a Google search, have you tried http://www.mutetab.com/

    30. Re:Good idea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I think the point is, all unselected tabs are muted by default, but you can selectively unmute them.

    31. Re:Good idea by fragfoo · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I find these ideas awesome, another thing browsers could is to color code tabs by cpu/memory usage or something. So you know which tab is slowing you down.

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    32. Re:Good idea by mbstone · · Score: 4, Interesting

      How about identifying noisy websites in Google search results?

    33. Re:Good idea by Your.Master · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The part where you explain how selective unmuting isn't a huge pain in the ass? Whatever selective unmuting UI is created will have to be something fiddly, since background tabs don't have a lot of screen real estate and all the mouse buttons are allocated.

      Myself, I'd adapt by dragging those tabs into a new window, rather than fiddling with some control. Still, I think for a general audience, selective muting will be way more palatable than selective unmuting*. As a user, I don't expect Pandora to mute when I switch tabs and I also don't expect there to exist an "unmute" button, anymore than I expect it to mute when I minimize an application, or hit alt-tab, or something like that.

      With that said, tablets are causing people to adapt their expectations. I think that pisses people off fairly often, though.

      * you might even be able to justify having some buried config option for mute-by-default for those really desperate for that behaviour.

    34. Re:Good idea by the+real+darkskye · · Score: 1

      Bazinga!

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    35. Re:Good idea by Eraesr · · Score: 4, Informative

      Good point. Also, after I posted my message I clicked one of the links in the article and found that so far it appears to work only for the HTML5 version of YouTube, which makes me believe that this only works for HTML5 controls, which means that annoying flash ads with sound can still creep through.

    36. Re:Good idea by smittyoneeach · · Score: 2

      Whats the word for Un-eureka?

      I'd say reversing it, akerue, but you might get flattened by a turning ox.

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    37. Re: Good idea by cynyr · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I assume that there would be a whitelist "allows allow tabs at these sites to play sounds" sort of a thing.

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    38. Re:Good idea by jones_supa · · Score: 1

      How about muting all tabs except the one currently open with the option of enabling/disabling any tab explicitely?

      Much of the noise can be avoided by allowing plugins only by clicking.

    39. Re:Good idea by markass530 · · Score: 1

      i was shocked when I learned was no mute function on either firefox or chrome a couple years ago when i first sought one out. i ended up having to go with flashblock on firefox, which was just kinda fixing part of the problem

    40. Re:Good idea by jones_supa · · Score: 1

      +1

    41. Re:Good idea by jones_supa · · Score: 3, Informative

      IE10 does exactly that. If you open YouTube videos to background tabs, they won't start playing until you activate the tab.

      For Firefox, I recommend installing the Flashblock addon, which allows you to start Flash plugins manually by clicking them.

    42. Re:Good idea by agapeton · · Score: 1, Interesting

      This is a VERY good idea!

    43. Re:Good idea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      the interface is not a problem:
      1) put a setting in the contextmenu to toggle the mute
      2) add a general setting that determines wheter tabs are mute by default or not

    44. Re:Good idea by wvmarle · · Score: 2

      I have that add-on, but YouTube is one of the very few sites that is on my allowed list as that's a site where flash is actually functional (yes, you read that correctly, "flash" and "functional" in one sentence). I got bored with having to click every time...

      Ideal for YouTube would be that the video would start loading (buffering) but not playing when the tab is in the background, so when I get to watch it, it's ready to go.

    45. Re:Good idea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      You think that IE10 has paused playing. In reality it's just that IE is so slow.

    46. Re:Good idea by devman · · Score: 2

      Chromium runs each tab as a separate process. It is easy to identify which processes are using audio.

      In Linux you can easily identify individual Chromium tabs using sound by using `lsof | grep snd` . Try it. Open bunch of slashdot tabs and then open one youtube tab and play a video with sound then kill that PID, it should only kill the youtube video.

    47. Re:Good idea by geminidomino · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Even easier: Make the "indicator" they're adding into a toggle. Then it's a complete non-issue on "quiet" tabs, it's not buried in a context menu, and it works just like the one on phones, tablets, and the various other gadgets-for-the-ui-impaired that are so popular now.

    48. Re:Good idea by P-niiice · · Score: 2

      Stop looking at so many cam sites dude. you only need one.

    49. Re:Good idea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      Yes, here we say "Mod parent up" :-)

    50. Re:Good idea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Thinking of it, the same could be done on the OS level for programs on the task bar (for those who still have that).

    51. Re:Good idea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Annoying Flash ads with sound? You mean, you don't block all Flash content by default?

    52. Re:Good idea by IndustrialComplex · · Score: 1, Offtopic

      The problem is that this is Google. The company that releases Android, has all the incentive in the world to integrate their products, yet does things like this:

      1. Google Talk does not have an option to sync between devices. I don't like 'ghost' half conversations if I was chatting with someone on my phone and I sit down at my computer. Even worse, when sitting at your computer you will discover that the google talk client, will not sync with the google chat plugin for gmail... on the SAME PC! I'll be checking my email, have a message popup and not realize that it popped up in my gmail instead of the client, so closing gmail kills the conversation...

      2. Google voice SMS. How can you have an android phone, and not have better integration of SMS messaging. Give me the option to direct 'SMS style messages' to the client of my choosing. 90% of apps that handle SMS notifications break when faced with google voice. Bad design.

      3. Google Earth does not have the ability to turn off satellite imagery and simply overlay the Google maps maps... They actually have so many layers but leave out one of the most important layers. I want to see the road where the road is, not a bunch of trees and gravel pits which are no longer there in real life.

      I could keep going, but there are so many integration issues that are dead simple but Google misses (or almost breaks), it's astounding. Google, if you read this, you are losing users for no reason (by losing I mean forcing them to use non Google products to get simple tasks done because the google products don't play well together)

      Astoundingly simple changes that don't even require backend fixes could resolve a whoel bunch of interoperability issues.

      I'm half tempted to do them myself and shop them to Google.

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    53. Re:Good idea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This might take some time for Firefox to adopt fully. The idea was submitted to the developer team in an AMA on reddit, to which they replied it was impossible to tell which tab was responsible for Flash playing music, due to how flash works.

      Either the Flash implementation has changed, or else the multi-instance behaviour of Chrome tabs makes it possible.

    54. Re: Good idea by IndustrialComplex · · Score: 1

      Ironically, that's a feature that was intentionally removed/broken in the latest android youtube App. Previously, you could start up a youtube video, turn off your screen and the video would continue to play. Now the app will intentionally pause the video if the screen is turned off. This is a problem because there are a lot of videos where I only want the audio, or I'm outputting the video via HDMI to a projector and I want my phone's screen to turn off to save battery/power/heatbuildup.

      Google has a very annoying habit to apply changes with no ability to disable/enable them. The Youtube app is just one of my complaints.

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    55. Re:Good idea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      IE isn't slow. It just doesn't load the javascript, so the page doesn't do anything.

    56. Re:Good idea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually it's pretty worthless. I've never had audio just started randomly playing in a background tab.

      Yet more "innovation" from Google. Watch them ruin their browser just like they've been ruining their services.

    57. Re:Good idea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why are people getting modded up for agreeing with someone else's idea.

    58. Re:Good idea by jonadab · · Score: 1

      > How about muting all tabs except the one currently open

      If by "open" you mean "in the foreground", then...

      Wait, that's not already the default? WHY NOT? Why on earth would a background tab ever be permitted to play sound? Gah. Who would ever even want the option to enable that?

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    59. Re:Good idea by snadrus · · Score: 1

      1. I can seamlessly go between Desktop & Android Google Talk sessions. On the phone, it does a catch-up when I open it showing me recent messages quickly
      2. Google Voice SMS is awful, but Android lets you point SMSs to another client. Doesn't Voice have a setting to disable handling SMS?
      3. I just use Google Maps. If I need Satellite view, then it's available. Google Earth is a toy.

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    60. Re:Good idea by Dexter+Herbivore · · Score: 1

      Cracked.com ran a photoplasty competition a week ago on 21 web browser features we desperately need, this was number 21 on the list.

    61. Re:Good idea by arth1 · · Score: 1

      In Linux you can easily identify individual Chromium tabs using sound by using `lsof | grep snd` . Try it.

      You're making the mistake of thinking that all sound has to go through the snd interface. /dev/dsp* is not uncommon (if you need OSS compatibility, usually for older games), and for pro devices, /dev/raw1394 is also used, usually routed through jack.

      Similar for Windows, where the user might be using asio drivers or wasapi to bypass the windows mixer and getting lower latency.

    62. Re:Good idea by v1 · · Score: 2

      I agree with this approach. But I can think of two examples of when I would like to get sound from an inactive tab.

      1. when doing those LivePerson chats, that chime when a person replies. They can take minutes to respond sometimes, and I'm frequently off in another tab or window or even another app entirely and need to hear the alert lest I get the "hello? are you there? since you're no longer responding I'm hanging up" and cost me another 20 minutes getting through queue again.

      2. I frequently open a series of tabs with videos, and when I hear one start I know it's done buffering and switch to it. So I like to hear when it starts, but it'd be nice to have a sound icon in the tab to see WHICH page has finished loading.

      So I think rather than a "frontmost only", I would prefer just an icon on the tab indicating what page is making noise. And make it clickable, to toggle mute for that tab. In safari, when you mouseover a tab, it unhides a [x] on the left side so you can close a tab without selecting it. Just add a [>] speaker box on the right side if the page has a sound element.

      Nothing more annoying than getting ambushed by one of those lovely flash ads that starts babbling while you're trying to listen to music. Or just plain won't shut up and no idea where it's coming from and have to close tabs and windows until to gets quiet. And then try to remember what tab it was you just closed, so next time you open it you can deal with it.

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    63. Re:Good idea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Insightful? Really?

    64. Re:Good idea by doom · · Score: 1

      How about muting all tabs except the one currently open with the option of enabling/disabling any tab explicitely?

      This is a good idea, but how about we take it a step further, and prevent any tab from making noise, unless you explicitly enable it?

      Remember back when there was a difference between a computer and a television set, and computers were something under your control?

    65. Re:Good idea by GrumpySteen · · Score: 1

      Leave him alone. It's the closest he's ever going to get to an orgy.

    66. Re:Good idea by IndustrialComplex · · Score: 1

      It seems I've been rated as a troll, it's a shame that Slashdot's moderation system works like that.

      For point 1: The main issue I have is that your conversations 'lock' to the device/platform you respond on. So I'll see a "Hey how's it going?" message on my desktop client, but because I responded on my phone, and then continued the conversation there, the desktop session never updates and everything beyond 'Hey, how's it going' only shows up on my phone. The same thing occurs on my desktop if I converse there. The weirdness on the desktop is more that the in-browser talk/chat client doesn't play well with the actual talk client. I don't have the talk application on all the PCs I use, so I tend to use the gmail version from time to time as opposed to always using the client.

      2. It does let you point SMSs to the other client, but the other client doesn't often play well with Google voice. Not completely google's problem, but considering it's on Android, you would think an option such as "All SMS sends should go via google voice" would be a very nice option.

      3. I'm glad you can use google maps, but google Earth has some features that I like to use. In this specific example, I wanted to get a rough approximation for a drainfield for a septic tank on a property I was considering buying. The permit was 30 years old, and the only reference I could use was a road. I was hoping to use google earth since at the time it allowed me to mark out polygons with specific dimensions. Not an option for Google maps.

      But seriously, it's not like I'm saying they should retool their product or anythign, for Google Earth all you need is the extra checkbox to turn off satellite imagery.

      I'm complaining about nitpicky little details to be sure, but that was my point. There are a lot of little ways that the whole experience could be a LOT better if a few rough edges were smoothed.

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    67. Re:Good idea by helix2301 · · Score: 1

      I agree for those annoying video ads that popup. You have a few tabs open and you have to find out which 1 has the ad that's talking.

    68. Re:Good idea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What you are looking for is a "solo" function as typically seen in Audio Mixing Boards. When a Solo button on a channel is pushed, it mutes all others and only lets the Solo'd channel audio play. More than one Solo button can be engaged simultaneously, mixing the audio from all Solo'd channel..

    69. Re:Good idea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This could actually be useful...hopefully FF will follow

      I use the Muter addon for Firefox. Mutes everything, Flash or HTML 5 audio. Good for playing Flash games at the office too. :)

      https://addons.mozilla.org/en-us/firefox/addon/muter/

  2. Coincidence? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    21 Web Browser Features We Desperately Need

    How long has this been in development again?

    1. Re:Coincidence? by mestar · · Score: 1

      This is not a case of science fiction predicting the future.

      This is a case of humor predicting the future.

    2. Re:Coincidence? by fbobraga · · Score: 1

      I NEED a "kill with fire" button in my browser - and an entry for the fire department in the bookmarks (or not)

    3. Re:Coincidence? by ElementOfDestruction · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Longer than 6 days I would bet.

      What they need is a fix to rid the world of all of these ridiculous, horrible "Slideshow" websites. 21 fixes? OK Give me a list on one page - maybe two if you want to increase your ad revenue. There's not much in Web 3.0 or whatever the fuck we call ourselves on, but it's horseshit.

    4. Re:Coincidence? by jones_supa · · Score: 1

      I know a feature we need: an option to not allow the browser to open new windows in any situation. See, there is the standard pop-up blocker in every browser, but there is still some scripts which are triggered to open a new advertisement window when you click the current page, for example.

    5. Re:Coincidence? by Impy+the+Impiuos+Imp · · Score: 2

      #22 AUTO DISABELE AUTO ADVANCE on slideshow.

      It does me no good as the page advances 1s after it slowly loads. No, I couldn't find a toggle, thanks for asking.

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    6. Re:Coincidence? by istartedi · · Score: 3, Insightful

      That would have looked better if my browser had "turn slide show into one page" and "automatically unpaginate pages without forcing you to hunt for printer icon". On the other end of that spectrum we need, "turn disk thrashing page archives and continuous scrollers into paginated pages". Seriously.

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    7. Re:Coincidence? by Dwedit · · Score: 1

      The Firefox extension Autopager works for some of those websites.

    8. Re:Coincidence? by Baloroth · · Score: 2

      What they need is a fix to rid the world of all of these ridiculous, horrible "Slideshow" websites. 21 fixes? OK Give me a list on one page - maybe two if you want to increase your ad revenue. There's not much in Web 3.0 or whatever the fuck we call ourselves on, but it's horseshit.

      See the "Article View" up on the right side of the page? Yeah, that works for Cracked. Other sites, YMMV. Usually they have a "print page" link that does the trick, but not always.

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    9. Re:Coincidence? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      humor and fiction are clearly mutually exclusive

    10. Re:Coincidence? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I found it funny that the linked article had a loud, un-mute-able advertisement on every page of its slideshow..

    11. Re:Coincidence? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Something is wrong with your browser because Cracked's slideshows don't have auto-advance. But, browser-fail aside, click the Article View link in the upper right (above Trending Now). That'll put it into single-page list format.

    12. Re:Coincidence? by skine · · Score: 1

      The webpage has an "Article View" option, which splits the entries into two pages.

    13. Re:Coincidence? by FatLittleMonkey · · Score: 1

      Yeah, "Funny".

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    14. Re:Coincidence? by ElementOfDestruction · · Score: 1

      Wow! Thanks... It's gotten to the point where once I see "Page 1 of 17!!" I completely lose interest.

      For the record I tried to moderate you up but I cannot moderate a thread I've commented in.

  3. Not just for memory management by cpicon92 · · Score: 2

    From TFA:

    Google Chrome Team is working on identifying tabs that play audio in order to exclude them from the list of tabs to discard when memory runs out.

    I hope they keep the indicator in the final builds, it will be useful for closing tabs with obnoxious sounds coming from them.

    1. Re:Not just for memory management by JaredOfEuropa · · Score: 5, Informative

      (Slightly OT) Like Slashdot? Not sure what was up yesterday, but I kept getting a (Swedish) ad on this site, one that expanded by itself even without rolling over it, and played video with (loud) audio. Great fun when idly browsing ./ during a conference call.

      I thought advertisers wised up about doing that that sort of thing in the last decade. Suffice to say I finally disabled ads on ./

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  4. Why are there noisy tabs at all? by marvo · · Score: 1

    Wouldn’t it be more useful to have an option to mute all background tabs by default?

    1. Re:Why are there noisy tabs at all? by tofarr · · Score: 2

      A lot of people open music playlists on youtube / music sites and play them as background tabs - muting background tabs by default would annoy these people. (Unless there was some kind of white list you could add them to - but maybe that is overcomplicating the situation...)

    2. Re:Why are there noisy tabs at all? by RaceProUK · · Score: 1

      Unless there was some kind of white list you could add them to - but maybe that is overcomplicating the situation...

      Not really - it'd be the same as scripting whitelists et al.

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    3. Re:Why are there noisy tabs at all? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Another option would be to mute any tab which has not yet been in the foreground. So you can switch it to the background while playing, but it won't start to play by itself until you get it to the foreground.

  5. Tabs should have miniature thumbnails of the page by KrazyDave · · Score: 0

    ... which when selected would open full-size pop-ups of the tabbed page so you can view the entire page in a pop-up without selecting the tab and displaying the entire page. Is that a great idea or WHAT?! Google - are you listening? P.S. Google: I'm available for consulting work!

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  6. Flash and plugin sounds by etnoy · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I remember this being discussed on the FF bugzilla years ago. It was seen as a very good idea, but the issue was (at least then) that most audio is played by Flash applets which the browser can't control, thus making it useless in most scenarios. I wonder how Chrome tackles the issue of plugin content playing audio.

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    1. Re:Flash and plugin sounds by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It hooks the audio device I/O, at least in Windows. No idea what it does on the unixes.

    2. Re:Flash and plugin sounds by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Play audio in your browser and then look into your audio control panel. It'll show that it recognizes which application is playing the sound, at least i windows 7 and up. I'm pretty sure browsers can do the same with the native OS feature. Each tab is run independently so it shouldn't be terribly difficult. But what they should do is prevent tabs from opening when reloading the session because loading 15 pages when 3 of them have audio is a big pain.

    3. Re:Flash and plugin sounds by arth1 · · Score: 1

      How will that work when my sound card uses ASIO and has its own mixer instead of the OS mixer?

    4. Re:Flash and plugin sounds by slart42 · · Score: 5, Informative

      I remember this being discussed on the FF bugzilla years ago. It was seen as a very good idea, but the issue was (at least then) that most audio is played by Flash applets which the browser can't control, thus making it useless in most scenarios. I wonder how Chrome tackles the issue of plugin content playing audio.

      Chrome uses it's own build of the flash plugin, which is not using the NPAPI plugin API, but Google's own Pepper API, which has support for Audio built into the API - and thus will handle playback of the audio through the browser, so the browser has full knowlegde and control of the audio.

    5. Re:Flash and plugin sounds by jones_supa · · Score: 1

      Then it possibly does not work at all.

    6. Re:Flash and plugin sounds by Hatta · · Score: 1

      If the browser is launching the plugin, can't it pass arguments to use a specific audio device? In that case, have the browser create a dummy audio device that routes to /dev/null unless it's specifically enabled.

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    7. Re:Flash and plugin sounds by jrumney · · Score: 1

      Insist on plugins that produce audio having a mute() function call, otherwise they end up on the browser's blacklist.

  7. This has been on the wish list for a loooooong tim by mfarah · · Score: 2

    This feature was listed as #21 in http://www.cracked.com/photoplasty_529_21-web-browser-features-we-desperately-need_p21/#21 - and, from all of them, the one is actually easy to implement. Hell, users have been wishing this kind of feature since before tabs even existed! I can only wonder what took so long for any dev team.

    I hope Chrome gets this on the stable release ASAP, and Firefox and Opera follow suit, Explorer can go frack itself for all I care.

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  8. Can they also... by dohzer · · Score: 2

    ... implement a little 'penis symbol' so I know not to click that tab when someone else walks into the room?

    1. Re:Can they also... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Then everyone walking in will know that you have such a tab open even if you don't click on it, from the very fact that it shows the "penis symbol".

  9. This is great news! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    There is nothing more sinister than having a single tab play questionable porn at maximum volume for the enjoyment of everybody around you.

  10. even better by smash · · Score: 4

    How about also DISABLING/muting audio in all inactive tabs?

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    1. Re:even better by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      because some of us like to go to youtube and listen to music as we surf.

    2. Re:even better by oodaloop · · Score: 1

      Can the rest of us have the option of muting, or does your desire outweigh everyone else's?

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    3. Re:even better by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      The guy you're responding to is an AC commenter on Slashdot, not one of the core Chrome developers.

    4. Re:even better by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      actually i am a chrome developer at google.

    5. Re:even better by smash · · Score: 1

      Obviously it would be an option.

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    6. Re:even better by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So I can't carry on conversations in Google Chat while listening to Pandora? Why is your use case the only one?

    7. Re:even better by BringYourOwnBacon · · Score: 1

      It would be a good option, but potentially infuriating for anyone listening to Pandora in the background.

    8. Re:even better by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No I'm not!

  11. Re:This has been on the wish list for a loooooong by RaceProUK · · Score: 1

    the one is actually easy to implement

    For HTML5 audio/video, yes. For Flash/Silverlight, not necessarily.

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  12. Re:This has been on the wish list for a loooooong by mfarah · · Score: 1

    the one is actually easy to implement

    For HTML5 audio/video, yes. For Flash/Silverlight, not necessarily.

    Considering most of the others are DWIM in nature, or at least require almost an AI working inside the browser, I'd say they're easy. :-D

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  13. Difficult to do by wbr1 · · Score: 1

    For HTML5 stuff this should be a cakewalk. But for plugin content, they are separate processes that route audio directly to the OS/driver system, not the browser. Therefore the browser has little to no control over them.

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    1. Re:Difficult to do by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      For HTML5 stuff this should be a cakewalk. But for plugin content, they are separate processes that route audio directly to the OS/driver system, not the browser. Therefore the browser has little to no control over them.

      Don't give any CPU time to a plugin on an inactive tab.

    2. Re:Difficult to do by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What if the same executable handles the plugin content both at the current foreground tab and on some background tab? Not giving it CPU time means the foreground tab won't work correctly. Giving it CPU time means that the background tab content will run, too.

    3. Re:Difficult to do by snadrus · · Score: 1

      The OS (Windows Audio, Pulse Audio for Linux) publishes when a process connects to it, and allows per-process OS-side volume. Remembering an embedded process' PID to automate that interaction seems reasonable.

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  14. Where was this... by aycaramba · · Score: 0

    15 years ago??

  15. A website that records sound? by damn_registrars · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I don't know that I have ever encountered such a site. Not that one couldn't exist, but I've never seen one. What am I missing out on?

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    1. Re:A website that records sound? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      In our online degree program, we use a proctoring system that records audio and video. It's in flash, though, and students must accept and approve the recording.

    2. Re:A website that records sound? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      4chan's been laughing it up on Vocaroo for years.

    3. Re:A website that records sound? by swillden · · Score: 1

      I've never seen one.

      Are you sure about that?

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    4. Re:A website that records sound? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't know that I have ever encountered such a site. Not that one couldn't exist, but I've never seen one. What am I missing out on?

      html5

  16. Excellent! by Dresden+Sparrow · · Score: 1

    Excellent!

  17. Competition is good by Dresden+Sparrow · · Score: 0

    Good to see things get more awesome over time. Good to see good innovation.

  18. Finally! by lessthan · · Score: 1

    Now all Google has to add is the hunt-down-and-do-violence-to-their-person button to find the designers who thought that music on opening was a good idea in the first place.

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    1. Re:Finally! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      speak for yourself. i kinda miss the web site design from the early 90s.

  19. Stop the automatic videos and audio clips! by ebinrock · · Score: 2

    This would be a step in the right direction, but I wish website designers would stop the practice of having videos and audio clips play automatically when you load the page, without warning (it almost jolts me out of my chair every time). And the audio mute button next to the video isn't good enough, not after it's already scared the bejesus out of you.

  20. Re:Meaningless post by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Care to elaborate? Seems like an useful feature which is nice to discuss about.

  21. Mute all unless unmuted... by leuk_he · · Score: 2

    Ik i Choose to play a video. manually, in focus.i MIGHT want to hear the sound. In that case i do not want to check
    -video sound setting
    -Tab sound setting.
    -browser sound setting.
    -global sound setting.

    (it gets worse when playing in a remote virtual machine )

    I never ever want to hear sounds in ads. That is the second most important reason that i invest too much time in ad-blocking.

  22. Better still... by JimR · · Score: 1

    Personally I'd like to have _all_ activity (audio, network, CPU, everything) stopped on every tab except the active one. If I want to be annoyed I can pop the tab into it's own window (or if someone cares to implement it - you could have per-tab controls).

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  23. Who cares... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Until they bring back side tabs, or let addon authors modify the UI to accommodate their own, a lot of us don't give a crap about Chrome.

  24. I don't get it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Obviously there is a need for this, given that it is being added to the software and the support shown for it in the comments here... but why?

    The only time my tabs make noise is when I specifically tell them to.

    I go to YouTube. I start the movie, it makes noise. Until I press play, it's nice and quiet.

    I go to Pandora. I start my playlist. It plays music. But until I press play, it's nice and quiet.

    I go to some random flash game. I press play. The game makes beeps and bleeps. But until I press play, it's nice and quiet.

    Where do people go that a website starts making sounds automatically?

    I'm not trying to be facetious; honestly, I can't think of a single time that has happened to me.

    1. Re:I don't get it by mbone · · Score: 1

      This has happened to me numerous times. It is frequently associated with a change in state - waking from sleep, a restart of the browser going to its stored state, going from a restricted or low bandwidth network to an open or higher bandwidth one. The machine then decides that "hey, there is this video marked as unplayed. I had better play it, right now!"

      My guess is that you typically browse in a fashion where only one or two tabs/windows are open at once. I use the browser as a push-down stack, and have 50 or so open at any time.

  25. Re:This has been on the wish list for a loooooong by RaceProUK · · Score: 1

    Do you really think there's an API for asking a plugin if it's playing audio? And if there is, do you think the plugin will always tell the truth?

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  26. Re:This has been on the wish list for a loooooong by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Use ptrace to detect the plugin accessing the audio device?

  27. Show me CPU utilization Instead by elabs · · Score: 2

    I'd much rather see which tabs are taking CPU and other resources instead of audio. Sometimes I have to kill all my tabs one at a time to figure out which one was running some runaway JavaScript.

    1. Re:Show me CPU utilization Instead by snadrus · · Score: 1

      Rt-click the blue top space, task manager.

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  28. Praise Be by mbone · · Score: 1

    It is highly annoying to be in a meeting and have your laptop decide that now is the time to play that flash animation that it couldn't get previously. If you keep a lot of tabs open (as I do) it can be very frustrating to find the one that is doing the deed. This feature might even get me using chrome more than I do now.

  29. Extension by Cyfun · · Score: 1

    Why doesn't this feature exist as an extension? It looks like there are already a few extensions that do this and more, they're just still in development and slightly buggy.

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  30. Re:This has been on the wish list for a loooooong by neminem · · Score: 1

    Glad I wasn't the only one to think about that Cracked article when I saw the headline. I wrote in the comments there at the time - that that request was the odd man out. The rest were obvious jokes, requesting that the computer read your mind, time-travel, break the laws of physics, murder people, etc., but that one seemed completely reasonable, and should really actually be implemented. Now here we are, Chrome is doing it - wonder if they got the idea from the Cracked article. :)

    (I do also hope it gets into Firefox, but everyone knows the Firefox dev team doesn't actually add features people -want- anymore...)

  31. Chrome Window Focus by SrLnclt · · Score: 1

    I just wish they would let diverted links (from outlook, RSS Readers, etc) open in chrome with the program itself remaining in the background. It is common for me to use an RSS reader, click on a dozen or so links, and then flip over to the browser and read them one by one. Now I have to flip back to the RSS reader after I click each link because chrome jumps to the foreground. It was even more annoying when these noisy tabs start talking in the background while reading other stuff before I installed flashblock. To me this is my biggest wish for chrome, especially since I could do this in FF probably 5+ years ago.

  32. Re:This has been on the wish list for a loooooong by RaceProUK · · Score: 1

    Where's ptrace on Windows?

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  33. Need a "mute all tabs/windows except this 1" buton by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You might have multiple Chrome windows open, and it would be harder to identify which window has sounds coming from it.

  34. Thank you, Jeebus! by kwiqsilver · · Score: 2

    Even with AdBlock and the don't autoplay flash plugin, there are still occasionally pages that start playing something. And the three things they all seem to have in common are: really bad music, really loud, bad music, and they only seem to show up when you've loaded ten or more pages in the background.
    MuteTab tries to keep the volume down, or off, on other tabs, but there's only so much they can do with a plugin.

  35. Re:This has been on the wish list for a loooooong by shutdown+-p+now · · Score: 1

    Just hijack all the OS API calls for the plugin (doesn't Chrome do it anyway for Flash, by the way?).

  36. Tab CPU usage indicators / throttling by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Tab CPU usage indicators / throttling would be very nice too - up/down bandwidth and memory as well, but CPU is perhaps the most important thing after sound volume. Of course you can find this information elsewhere (about:memory), but that takes extra effort and you have to know to look. It could be some sort of horizontal percentage bars across the tab, with an info popup onmouseover, and clicking would let you slide the limit indicator (i.e. per-tab memory quotas, maximum volume, connection throttling, and CPU throttling).

    Without such feedback and controls, it would be easy for a site to (for example) mint Bitcoins for itself via JavaScript at your CPU's expense, without your knowledge or consent...

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