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RCMP Says Terror Plot Against Canadian Trains Thwarted
An anonymous reader writes "Two men were arrested in Canada, accused of conspiring to carry out an 'al-Qaeda supported' attack against a VIA passenger train in the Greater Toronto Area. The arrests were products of 'extensive' co-operation between Canadian and US intelligence agencies, who had been investigating the plot since August 2012." From this article, it's not clear whether any actual al-Qaeda support was forthcoming, or whether the accused plotters merely thought there was, by means of an FBI sting operation, as in the 2006 case in Florida.
Enjoy the fruits of a civilized guest country then try to blow it up.
The title fails to mention the fact that it was the Muslim community, up here, that turned the two guys in. Had nothing to do with the FBI. A few men, in the Mosque that they went to, heard about the plan and reported it to the RCMP.
Or at least, that's how I picture it in my head.
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Step 2: Fly it into a buliding
They'll NEVER see it coming! (Except I guess Canada did)
I'm trying to teach myself to set people on fire with my mind... Is it hot in here?
This is aboot dignity! This is aboot justice!
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1) They mention "Al Queda in Iran."
So...exactly how powerful is a Wahabbi Sunni sect in an iron-fisted Shiite country? Think they have the bandwidth to help idiots in Canada (not the US) do some questionable damage?
2) Coincidence?
CHICAGO—In what is being called the first conceptual terrorist attack on American soil, the landmark Sears Tower was encased in 18 million tons of strawberry gelatin early Monday morning, leaving thousands shocked, angry, and seriously confused.
The Sears Tower
Authorities called to the scene of the senseless attack said they could do little to control the large crowds of dangerously bewildered citizens, many of whom searched desperately for some semblance of meaning in what had just taken place. As of press time, 11 night security guards were still trapped inside the famous structure, their rescue unlikely until the Jell-O melts.
"My God, it's just awful," said commuter Nick Dawson, one of countless Chicago residents who struggled to comprehend what had occurred. "Why would anyone do something like this?"
Tentative speculation that the dessert enclosure was in fact an act of terrorism was quickly confirmed after a group known only as the Prophet's Collective took credit for the attack in a three-hour-long video that surfaced on the Internet.
"Your outdated ideas of what terrorism is have been challenged," an unidentified, disembodied voice announces following the video's first 45 minutes of random imagery set to minimalist techno music. "It is not your simple bourgeois notion of destructive explosions and weaponized biochemical agents. True terror lies in the futility of human existence."
The terrorists' video made their message clear.
According to a 2007 CIA executive summary, the terrorists responsible for masterminding the attack are likely hiding somewhere in Berlin's vast labyrinth of cafés. Though officials said they didn't know if any of those involved in carrying out the plot were still in Chicago, several dozen local performance artists and interpretive dancers have been brought in for questioning.
"We believe that this is the same group responsible for the 2005 Saran-wrapping of the American embassy in Paris," CIA director Michael Hayden said. "This is an extremely dangerous organization with absolutely no regard for American tastes and sensibilities. If left unchecked, it could forever change the face of contemporary terrorism."
Hayden said the CIA is working closely with the National Endowment for the Arts to cut off all grants that may serve as funding for the group. In addition, the Department of Homeland Security has begun monitoring any large purchases of gravy, tinfoil, pig's blood, and barbed wire in hopes of preventing another aesthetic tragedy.
"We are calling upon all citizens to remain vigilant during this difficult and utterly peculiar time," Chicago mayor Richard M. Daley said during a press conference earlier today. "The city needs your help to ensure that the disturbing message sent to us by these terrorists today, whatever it was, never happens again."
Shocked and slightly damp rescue workers.
"If you see something weird, say something," Daley added.
While officials have yet to determine the purpose of the attack, a number of potential theories have emerged, including the sudden deregulation of the U.S. economy, the destruction of culturally significant landmarks, and maybe the fact that man, in his essence, is no more than a collection of irrational fragments, incapable of finding reason where no reason exists.
A secret communiqué leaked by the Prophet's Collective, however, decries these theories and several others as being "completely off," and goes on to call the American people "cultural infidels."
Though many Chicago residents are still attempting to wrap their heads around the attack, some in the Windy City have refused to classify the Jell-O encasement as a terrorist act at all.
"I'm no expert, but I know terrorism when I see it," said Kathy Atwood, a Hyde Park mother of four. "Where is the devastating loss of life and massive destruction of infrastructure? This doesn't move me to run for my life at all."
She added: "Real terrorism takes years of training and meticulous plann
>> Terror Plot Against Canadian Trains Thwarted
Not against the Newfoundland Bullet, was it?
Hahahaha, casual racism... *Wipes tear from eye*
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It's not racism, unless Canadians are a race. I was poking fun at the way some of them talk by paraphrasing South Park.
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debated. Which is funny because they got these guy using current laws so there's no need for new freedom removing laws. All the authorities have to do is do their fucking job.
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These guys have been planning this since last year? What's to plan? What more would it take than a couple of guys with picks and sledgehammers to kink up the track? Perhaps a train buff out there could weigh in on this.
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Americans seem completely unable to hear the difference between our pronunciation of "About" as /abawt/ and instead hear /abu:t/
I can't understand how someone can't hear the difference of course, being Canadian myself, but I see the stupid "Aboot" thing spouted so many times by Americans, I have to assume its true.
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The arrest of these supposedly dangerous terrists (as Vic Toews, Minister of Public Safety (and doesn't THAT sound Orwellian?) pronounces the previously three syllable word) was carefully timed to happen the same day that the government is pushing through a particularly nasty bit of spy legislation.The kind that lets the government lock you up for days at a time without charges just because you sort of fit some cop's definition of "terrist."
These guys have a very spotty record in terms of suppressing dissent, and arresting people for non-existent crimes, so I'd hold off until some actual evidence shows up. Cop press releases are not (yet) enough to prove anything. I actually wonder about how these guys can present a serious threat to public safety when the same goons are saying that at no time was any member of the public at risk.
Thought crimes anyone?
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Quite so! I was poking fun at Americans by being ignorant.~
(I derped.)
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There is no "Al Qaeda".
Perhaps there once was. Maybe.
But now it's like watching guys in ball caps and saying they're members of the Yankees or Dodgers.
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Never been known to fail..."
You mean the poor excuse for a rail system in Canada? Via has fallen into near non-existence in recent years. You might as well try and blow up a covered bridge out in the middle of nowhere to disrupt traffic flow.
Anyone else having real problems not reading that as "instigating"?
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This is about herding. Terrorist attacks are pretty common around the world but we only hear about those involving Muslims. Italy has suffered a long series of bombings by anarchists over the last decades, many of them mail bombs, but they don't make news in Canada and the US. Spain had bombings by ETA for decades with hundreds killed but they were ignored here. The IRA flubbed setting off another car bomb in Ireland a short time ago but it was ignored here. We are being herded to more and more fear and the goal is to strip us of more and more of our freedom.
Watched the press conference on tv and they said they had no idea which trains but that they were watching many. Officials have idea if they had cross border passenger trains in mind.
Then you get the NY representative who says YEP Dey wuz gunna come over da boarder n' blow up 'Mericans! (Kapital M!)
Why do we keep electing these assyholez? Anything to get their names in the paper... for stupid. And they say the USSR was good at brainwashing? Can't hold a candle to US congressmen.
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Since when are accents not funny?
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Since we now know what Plan "Eh?" was all about.
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But how many of those 1.2B would stop let alone criticize a father 'honor killing' his daughter for some psychotic perception of harlotry?
Islam is not the only misogynist religion (spoiler: they all are), but they lap the field when exercising their views on the subject.
To me, that falls well within the definition of terrorism: terrorizing all XXs.
Because all those others are mostly internal with some outside support (think attempt to start civil war) whereas the Muslim ones are generally attacks from outside.
We can easily fool ourselves into believing that a bunch of communist ideologues born and raised in a country that get some funding (directly or indirectly) from the KGB were just "freedom fighters" trying to promote a better way of life in Western Europe (Red Army Faction, Action Directe, Badder-Meinhof, etc) or the US (Weather Underground, Black Panthers, etc.). Or even that they actually had some valid nationalistic points like the IRA and the Basques.
We generally have a more difficult time fooling ourselves about the Muslims coming over to kill us as simply trying to get us to leave them alone.
Al Qaeda was always a highly decentralized organization with a great degree of autonomy for individual cells. It does not mean that it does not exist.
On the heels of a terrorist attack in Boston, and after calmly watching these guys for over a year, the RCMP make arrests just as the Canadian government just happens to be debating a new anti-terrorism law in parliament. For certain political interests, it seems rather convenient to have the al-Queda bogeyman appear in Canada at this precise moment.
FWIW, we have seen precedent for the Prime Minister's Office (illegally) influencing the actions of the RCMP.
Yea, there was never an "Al Qaeda" as the media and government defines it - As a world-wide organization of Islamist terrorists. The CIA came up with the term to describe it's recruits, etc. (mostly from Saudi Arabia) in the Afghanistan war against the Soviet invasion.
Wonder, if like the last one, we'll find out one of the men were on the government payroll..
"No" what? Are you saying that the existence of one networked organizations precludes the existence of others? Or are you denying the existence of the networked organization known as al Qaeda in particular?
Um, Canada has had the same prime minister for over five years.
Um, one assumes that on /. one can get away with South Park references ;-)
"On the other hand I had someone do a Lexis-Nexis search that shows the term appearing first in late 1998 at the New York trial. Nothing before that. That would indicate that the term might have been invented there. The word Al Qaeda translates into "the base" which is a generic term and because of that this issue might never be completely resolved."
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Never been known to fail..."
So is the differences in sounds distinguished by listeners. Its called "Canadian Rising" and is uncommon with US speakers unless they are near the border but common in Canada. Its what makes US speakers who do not hear the difference, think we are saying Aboot.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_raising
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