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TV Programmers Seek the Elusive Dog Market

HonorPoncaCityDotCom writes "Stanley Coren reports that a number of new television stations are providing programming specifically designed for dogs and while many people report that their dogs completely ignore what is visible on television, with modern resolution and quicker imaging, more dogs have become potential television viewers. The increase in dog viewership is primarily attributed to the way the dog's eye works. The image on a standard television screen is updated 60 times per second and since a human's flicker fusion frequency is only 55 Hz, the image appears continuous and the gradually changing images give us the illusion of movement. However dogs can discern flickers at up to 80 Hz so with the increased availability of high-resolution digital screens that are refreshed at a much higher rate, the images are less likely to appear to be flickering to the canine eye. Presentation factors are also an issue. Dogs are most likely to respond to images that have been captured at the eye level of a dog with a low camera angle where there are moving things like animals or birds. But even if that requirement is fulfilled, most dogs do not watch television because the TV is normally placed at a comfortable eye level for human beings and dogs do tend not to scan upward, and therefore do not notice the TV images. All of which brings us to DogTV, the first cable network to deliver 24-hour programming for dogs that lets you flip on the channel while you go out for the day as your pet is stimulated, entertained and relaxed. 'If the dog wasn't enjoying it, he would find something else to do, like nibble on the end of a sofa,' says veterinarian Ann E. Hohenhaus."

199 comments

  1. dog TV by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    I hope there are a lot of bitches on TV.

    1. Re:dog TV by Penguinisto · · Score: 2

      I think that'll be the new dog pr0n channel, but it'd likely flop (dogs are driven by smell in that department, not sight. Also, a neutered dog isn't likely to care at all.)

      I'm just curious as to what they consider "eye level" for the typical dog, though - the eyes on my Dachshunds (aka the 'low-rider dobermans') are a helluva lot closer to the ground than those of a Great Dane.

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    2. Re:dog TV by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      dog TV would probably be less bitches and more intelligence than most current programs ;)

    3. Re:dog TV by easyTree · · Score: 1

      More evidence that TV is made by dogs ^_^

  2. why ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    they dont have any money and cant ell their owner buy me this

    1. Re:why ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      they dont have any money and cant ell their owner buy me this

      Are you kidding?

      There are many people out there who treat their dogs like children - some even BETTER than their children.

      If Poopsie starts pawing and barking at the new Lexus, you can bet Poopsie will be getting a new Lexus.

    2. Re:why ? by Somebody+Is+Using+My · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Presumably advertisements on the show would be seen by the pet-owners who would then be more likely to purchase the advertised product. I assume that the type of people who would buy this for their pets - the "hard-core" dog-owners, as it were - are also the sort to buy "premium" dog food for $15.00 per can, or diamond-studded dog collars or whatever, so there is probably money to be made in that market.

      It's unfortunate, however, that nowadays everything has to be justified by an explanation on how it can be monetized. Admittedly, it costs money to run a cable station but it would be nice to sometimes see somebody go "Fuck it, I just love dogs so what the hell; let's give them cable!"

    3. Re:why ? by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 2, Interesting

      If it were pitched as a premium channel or similar add-on to basic cable, you could also go the 'buy this unless you hate your dog and want it to suffer while you neglect it home, alone and afraid, and probably peeing on your sofa!' angle.

      Heck, just look at the success of that 'Baby Einstein' dreck: somewhere between fuck-all and overtly negative effects(once somebody actually bothered to do some research, well after the selling had started) and they still moved a zillion units by telling parents that plunking their little spawn in front of the TV could be done without guilt.

    4. Re:why ? by ColdWetDog · · Score: 4, Funny

      Nah, the commercials will be 60 second clips of whatever is located at nose height at PetsMart. Woofer goes with owner to store, recalls the images flickering within its canine brain. This triggers a Pavlovian reflex, Woofer grabs the chewy thing and promptly drools on it (You drool on it, you buy it)

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    5. Re:why ? by Somebody+Is+Using+My · · Score: 2

      I admit, I LOLed.

      (You drool on it, you buy it)

      Sadly, not the policy at the local Walmart...

    6. Re:why ? by jellomizer · · Score: 3, Insightful

      That and Dogs are not really visual animals like Humans are.

      Sure the dog can see what is on TV but he really doesn't care that much, unless it makes a noise that he finds interesting. My Dog responds to the barking of Real Dogs (Not Synthesized ones) and to the sound of the Door Bell. However other than that he has no interests. If the TV gave off smells, the dog may be more interested. However I wouldn't like a TV that gives off smells my Dog likes.

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    7. Re:why ? by Golddess · · Score: 1

      I was about to comment that people aren't likely to keep it on the dog channel once they get home, and thus the Lexus commercials that Poopsie sees when you are home won't be the same that can get her attention. But then I realized that the kinds of people you are referring to, probably would have a TV completely dedicated to Poopsie, such that the owner need not disturb Poopsie to watch what they want to watch.

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    8. Re:why ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My Lab watches TV frequently in very short chunks. If there is no action he loses interest pretty quick. My wife told me he watched TV and I though she was kidding

    9. Re:why ? by Golddess · · Score: 1

      Sure the dog can see what is on TV but he really doesn't care that much

      Some dogs do. Not sure how many, but I know at least 1 dog that goes nuts just from seeing another animal on TV. It doesn't even need to make a noise, the visual alone sets this dog off.

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    10. Re:why ? by nabsltd · · Score: 1

      the sort to buy "premium" dog food for $15.00 per can

      At that point, just feed them steak, as there is nothing in any commercial dog food that is better nutrition.

    11. Re:why ? by kaliann · · Score: 4, Informative

      Steak is not complete nutrition for a dog. Muscle meat is important but lacks many of the vitamins and minerals found in organ meats and vegetable matter. Additionally, while dogs are taxonomically in Carnivora, they are functionally omnivores. Straight meat isn't ideal for them. (This is in contrast to cats and ferrets, which are obligate carnivores and have trouble digesting vegetable matter.)

      As an aside, if you are feeding your pet meat, please cook the meat as thoroughly as you would for human food safety. Domestic animals are not immune to the food-borne pathogens that cause nasty illnesses, and no one wants their pet (or their carpet) to go through that drama.

    12. Re:why ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This has more to do with Commercials than TV shows. If a "loving" dog owner is watching Law & Order and fluffy starts barking at a commercial for "Puppies love our chow" dog food, the owner may go out and buy that thinking fluffy wanted it. (Everything is a "Maybe" in advertising.)

      They're presenting the research as "Dog Channel" to help get the idea out there that dogs are a target audience and gauge reaction.

    13. Re:why ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Mine get a new Lexus annually every Xmas.

    14. Re:why ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      they would have to put some sort of dog whistle in the commercial you did see...

    15. Re:why ? by nabsltd · · Score: 1

      Steak is not complete nutrition for a dog. Muscle meat is important but lacks many of the vitamins and minerals found in organ meats and vegetable matter.

      I didn't want to get into the details, but was just point out the price issue. And, steak can have bones, which are also important, although beef bones are fairly hard and most dogs can't get that much from them. Pork, chicken, goat, rabbit, etc. bones are easier for them to pulverize. And yes, it's perfectly safe...only cooked bones will splinter dangerously.

    16. Re:why ? by Livius · · Score: 1

      That and Dogs are not really visual animals like Humans are.

      I could be wrong, but I think they are also among the mammals that see two colours instead of three like humans.

    17. Re:why ? by losfromla · · Score: 1

      cooked meat for an animal? That is silly. I am fairly certain that their closest relatives, wolves, and hyenas do not drag carcasses to the nearest fire and wait until it is cooked just right before chowing down. I also think they aren't too often caught raiding farms for carrots and zucchini. Do you mean that they are functionally omnivores because their idiot owners and veterinarians are all swayed by the dog food manufacturers? They are not the superspecialized carnivores that cats are (which you pointed out) and yes they can eat all kinds of stuff and still live but I don't think they are truly omnivores, do they have molars? Here's a link for you from a lazy google search of "dog teeth"
      http://www.vivo.colostate.edu/hbooks/pathphys/digestion/pregastric/dogpage.html

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    18. Re:why ? by kaliann · · Score: 1

      The splintering of cooked bones is definitely a good point, and worth keeping in mind. Raw bones can splinter too, but cooked are more brittle. There's still a lively debate as to whether raw bones are as safe as once thought (for splintering as well as pathogen concerns and GI obstructions), but there is virtually no debate that cooked bones are a worse choice.

    19. Re:why ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Apes don't cook their food either, but don't take that to mean that you can eat raw chicken. Also, it's been quite a while since dogs were wolves, and we've forced a lot of changes on them.

    20. Re:why ? by kaliann · · Score: 2

      Cooked and not all meat, for several reasons.
      1) Dogs are not wolves. Dogs are domestic animals and have significantly smaller teeth than their forebears. Throughout their time in domesticity they have predominantly eaten what we have - cooked food, and a mix of meat and vegetable matter. We have bred them to be easy to keep on food that is similar to ours. You are encouraged to explore some of the peer-reviewed publications on the matter.

      2) Many canids - such as coyotes, jackals, and foxes - are omnivores, and various populations of Canis lupus have current or historical evidence of dietary diversity. See previous link. The dentition of modern dogs is closer to that of omnivorous coyotes than modern wolves.

      3) Yes, they have molars. And premolars. They are shown quite nicely in the link you gave. They don't have grinding molars (like most herbivores do), but most non-primate omnivores don't have those. Feel free to examine the dentition of raccoons and brown or black bears for molars of omnivores who don't grind.

      4) Wild animals are rarely as healthy as you'd like your domestic dog to be. They die of starvation, illness, exposure, and parasites. So even though wolves ate raw meat, they also didn't live as long as the average dog. In other news, please deworm your dog and have it vaccinated, even though it's "natural" to let it be infested with parasites or die of distemper.

      5) Raw meat from a grocery store has a high likelihood of having surface contamination with Salmonella, E. coli, Campylobacter, and other fun pathogens responsible for food-borne illnesses. Dogs are not immune to these, and they can range from merely unpleasant to fatal. Freshly killed raw meat doesn't have the same level of surface contamination that grocery store meat does (industrial farming and meat packaging are different from fresh-killed whatever), but wild game is at higher risk for parasites. Feel free to disregard the cooked-meat warning if you hunt your own meat, feed it fresh, and have your dog on a monthly dewormer. They may still get Toxoplasmosis, flukes, tapeworms, or Salmon poisoning (if you are feeding raw salmon)... monthly dewormers rarely address flatworms, and they don't prevent protozoal infections.

      6) Hyenas are not closely related to dogs, they are in Feliformia (the group is pretty much all carnivores or insectivores). Bears are closer to dogs (in Caniformia), however, and most are omnivores. Some of the Caniformes (like red pandas and giant pandas) are herbivorous.

    21. Re:why ? by chriskenrick · · Score: 1

      One of our Cavalier King Charles Spaniels will go nuts barking if she either sees another animal on the TV screen. Off screen barking will set her off too. Having said that, if a doorbell goes off on screen she'll also run to the front door excitedly.

    22. Re:why ? by Xest · · Score: 1

      "the "hard-core" dog-owners, as it were - are also the sort to buy "premium" dog food for $15.00 per can"

      To be fair I buy our dogs premium dog food (though we don't buy wet canned food, we buy bags of dry food) because one of them just has permanent diarrhoea if we feed him the cheap shit. It really does vary in quality quite considerably. Our Lab is fine with the cheap shit, but I suspect this is because labs were bred to pick up all sorts of dead shit so have tougher constitutions in this respect.

    23. Re:why ? by riT-k0MA · · Score: 1

      Or just get a pyrenean, I watched mine effortlessly munch her way through the bones from a beef hindquarter that we'd cooked on a spit. Didn't take her very long, either.

    24. Re:why ? by losfromla · · Score: 1

      1) You had a pretty good response going but you had to go and put a link. To an article copyright the "The American Society For Nutrition", whose sustaining partners include: The Coca-Cola Company, PepsiCo, Pfizer, Nestle Nutrition Institute, McDonalds, The Sugar Association Inc, Unilever North America, Kraft Food Groups, et al. https://www.nutrition.org/our-members/corporate-members/our-sustaining-members/
      I'm thinking that the science produced by researchers which they sponsor is going to be just a tad bit biased, don't you?

      2,3) I've seen all kinds of teeth on different breeds of modern dogs, are you saying that a chihuahua's teeth are the same as those of a pit bull or rottweiler?
      Yes, they have molars ( I was mistaken in thinking they didn't), here's what they're for:
      http://dogs.lovetoknow.com/wiki/A_Dog's_Teeth
      Molars handle the heavy duty work of a dog's teeth, breaking down larger hard items like bones, large kibble or dog biscuits. Every adult dog has ten molars just behind the premolars; two on each side of the top jaw and three on each side of the lower jaw.

      4) An animal dying of starvation, illness, or exposure is natural, similarly dying from parasites, that's the way life is supposed to work, generally that is referred to as nature. Wolves didn't "ate raw meat" wolves eat raw meat and they will continue to do so until we idiot humans finally exterminate the last of them.
      I don't have a dog, I have a cat. I got and keep the cat because it kills and eats rats and mice and the odd bird now and again. I got it to protect the avocado and other fruit trees. It is extremely healthy, agile(thus its nice kill rate), and relaxed. I feed it of course because I think there aren't enough rodents to keep it full.

      5.) I completely agree that supermarket meat is an abomination that is why I only typically buy soap there. Occasionally I'll buy the odd organic vegetable too but mostly I shop at farmers markets. My meat I buy online or from local sources which provide grass fed and finished animals, beef, pork, lamb...

        6.) Thanks, I did not know that.

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    25. Re:why ? by volmtech · · Score: 2

      My dog must have a cast iron stomach. He drags home week old road kill and savors it for another week.

  3. entertaining? by gl4ss · · Score: 2, Funny

    well.. maybe the dog is compelled to keep an eye on the evil trans dimensional window so that no baddies come in through it.

    otoh, maybe that's good times for a dog..

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    1. Re:entertaining? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I've had lots of dogs but never saw one watch TV. Cats, however, like nature shows.

    2. Re:entertaining? by Penguinisto · · Score: 2

      I've had lots of dogs but never saw one watch TV. Cats, however, like nature shows.

      Same story here. The dogs don't give a damn what's on TV, even if I'm playing a FPS on the thing with the screen refresh cranked to maximum (~120 Hz, I think).

      Now the cat? She goes apeshit when she sees a bird on the thing.

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    3. Re:entertaining? by RoccamOccam · · Score: 1

      My dog gets very excited about people running on screen (but only sometimes). Also, she sometimes gets very interested in people standing around talking to each other. I can't figure out the pattern. But, whenever she does get interested, she grabs a toy and tries to present it to the people on screen (she's a golden retriever) and she whines or does her playful growl.

    4. Re:entertaining? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My dog was weirdly interested in Red Dead Redemption, especially when there were wolves and dogs onscreen.

    5. Re:entertaining? by kannibal_klown · · Score: 1

      Pff, the real danger is the large trans dimensional window in all of the owners' sleeping rooms. There's always another dog trying to get in whenever my pup would enter the room.

      Seriously though, never had my dogs care that much about the TV. Maybe a little but nothing much.

      But as puppies, watching them react to mirrors was hilarious! Depending on the dog, they'd treat the reflection like an intruder or perhaps immediately take them to be a new new friend. In either case it would be a hyped up reaction.

      TV's though? Meh, maybe some dialog or sound effects would get their attention but that's about it.

    6. Re:entertaining? by jellomizer · · Score: 1

      Did you have sound up? I bet is more interesting in the sound of the barking.

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    7. Re:entertaining? by Sloppy · · Score: 1

      I've seen a dog watch TV, though she had a pretty short attention span. The best part is what she was watching and what was happening; it was perfect. It was a nature show about wolves, and there was a pack and an "outsider" wolf. I shit you not: my dog started growling at the outsider! Something about its posture, I guess.

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    8. Re:entertaining? by CanHasDIY · · Score: 2

      I have a lab mix whom I've caught watching news programs on a few occasions (not just sitting on the couch looking in the general direction of the television, but actually watching the news - following movements on screen, etc.).

      Of course, this is the same dog who will sit next to people and stare at them with his muzzle less than an inch from their faces, panic barks at rabbits in the neighbor's yard (pretty sure he's trying to warn them about our cat), tries to play with the lawnmower, and generally fears nothing. In other words, he's friggin' weird.

      YMMV.

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    9. Re:entertaining? by kannibal_klown · · Score: 1

      Meanehile, I've heard that dogs have a hard time seeing actual images on the screen due to how their eyes are setup. That perhaps a bright-yellow ball flying across the grass on the TV might as well appear like Pong (black screen, white box flying across).

      But I used to hear this a lot back on the old tube / CRT days. Who knows if flat panels work differently since they're not scanning each frame.

    10. Re:entertaining? by losfromla · · Score: 1

      What kind of cat do you have? If my cat goes apeshit* on anything, it is usually smaller than it and it will usually end up as his dinner, breakfast, or lunch. What I am getting at is that bird on the screen would have ended badly for the screen if my cat had any interest whatsoever in it.

      * goes apeshit meaning: sits and patiently watches it until it is within leaping/striking distance whereupon it soon has the spark of life separated from its warm flesh.

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  4. Aquarium Chanel by HappyHead · · Score: 5, Interesting

    My dog always liked the Aquarium Chanel on satellite. It would keep him occupied for hours if I was going out - he'd still be sitting there watching the fish going back and forth, occasionally looking around behind the TV to try and find them.

    1. Re:Aquarium Chanel by slashmojo · · Score: 1

      It would keep him occupied for hours if I was going out - he'd still be sitting there watching the fish going back and forth

      That's what he wanted you to think.. probably just heard you returning with his super canine ears and quickly stopped whatever mischief he was up to..

    2. Re:Aquarium Chanel by HappyHead · · Score: 1

      Neah, I had a networked camera to watch the place - every time I checked, all day long, he was in front of the TV staring at it, or looking around the side of it. It was like it was hypnotic or something. When he got into mischief while I was away (without the TV on), it would be pretty obvious. Torn open and empty dog food bin, (and a dog who couldn't walk properly because his stomach was so full - that was a fun explanation at the Vet.) all of the blankets from my bed dragged out into the hallway, or an Irish Setter stuck up on the kitchen table and unsure how to get back down. Fun stuff.

    3. Re:Aquarium Chanel by Xest · · Score: 1

      Our two dogs react different to different animals on TV, even cartoon animals and it's pretty consistent, I've experimented with different footage of different animals. Also the dogs eye level things doesn't bare true for me, our TV is mounted above the fire place and our dogs will happily look up at it and pay attention.

      Our border collie for example absolutely loves whales and lions, he'll literally just sit for hours quietly watching them perfectly content. He also seems to like giraffes, camels and hippos but neither him or our lab can stand other dogs, cats, monkeys, and if they see something like a snake then it literally gets their heckles up and they'll growl at it. Bears can be hit and miss, sometimes they seem content to watch, other times they growl.

      But always most amusing is when you're watching a documentary about wolves, yes, as soon as the wolves start howling our dogs do too, just to make sure the wolves on TV are aware that they may be intruding on the territory of our dogs...

      My biggest concern though is that I think our lab is a closet racist, because he growls at black people on TV, though he never does this out on a walk. It's all very odd.

    4. Re:Aquarium Chanel by Reziac · · Score: 1

      Years ago I had a puppy who would watch [American] football, and Max Headroom, both with complete attention. She wasn't interested in anything else (so it wasn't just being attracted to motion), nor did she watch the commercials.

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  5. Ad supported? by TWX · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Okay, I'm curious as to how the business model for this works. Aren't most TV networks ad-supported? If the human isn't really paying attention to the TV then the human isn't going to really pay attention to the ads, and obviously the pet doesn't have the ability to make financial transactions on their own, and unlike kids' TV programming, can't nag the human into buying things for them...

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    1. Re:Ad supported? by lxs · · Score: 1

      From skimming the site I think it's subsription based. Speaking as a human, I was entertained by the sample clips. Also note that the image is in color which suggests to me that this is geared at least partly toward the owners.
      Come to think of it, this may be an even bigger hit with students than the Teletubbies were back in the '90s. Perfect for a stoned afternoon on the couch.

    2. Re:Ad supported? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Okay, I'm curious as to how the business model for this works. Aren't most TV networks ad-supported? If the human isn't really paying attention to the TV then the human isn't going to really pay attention to the ads, and obviously the pet doesn't have the ability to make financial transactions on their own, and unlike kids' TV programming, can't nag the human into buying things for them...

      Was this problem really that challenging to you? Or was it your dog that wrote the post?

    3. Re:Ad supported? by tuck182 · · Score: 1

      Also note that the image is in color which suggests to me that this is geared at least partly toward the owners.

      Dogs aren't color blind in the "they can only see in black and white" sense that most people think. Their range of color perception is more limited than humans', but they still can perceive colors.

      According to the DogTV faq, they'd messed around with the color and contrast of the images so they're more apparent to dogs.

    4. Re:Ad supported? by tlhIngan · · Score: 1

      From skimming the site I think it's subsription based. Speaking as a human, I was entertained by the sample clips. Also note that the image is in color which suggests to me that this is geared at least partly toward the owners.

      Dogs, despite common belief, don't see in just black and white. They do have limited color vision (usually limited to blue and yellow) as well. Of course, recording in color means the differences in color vision is narrowed down.

      Anyhow, I had dogs that reacted to dogs on TV (even upscaled SD programming of dogs). One other one I had just loved watched TV with motion on it). Of course, this was on an older 60Hz TV...

    5. Re:Ad supported? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You'd be amazed at how much people are willing to spend on their pets. Some people love that kind of spending so much, they'd rather have pets than children.

    6. Re:Ad supported? by Rhacman · · Score: 1

      It lends itself to advertising slightly better than:

      "Hey kids! It's time for your favorite daytime television program on America's lowest rated TV network, the YUV Colorbar Show!!! Starring your pals Luma and the Chroma twins!"

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  6. yeah... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...except my dog barks at any animal seen on the screen...i don't need more ads targeted to her.

  7. Or destroy the TV by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The reasons given sound reasonable, but there's a reason people don't mount TVs on the floor with dogs around. One show with a cat or squirrel, and that TV is toast.

  8. $5.99/month - $9.99/month by Joe_Dragon · · Score: 3, Informative

    monthly cost varies by cable provider and is between $5.99/month - $9.99/month (or $9.99 for the online streaming service and Roku)

    Directv will have it for $5.99

    1. Re:$5.99/month - $9.99/month by bmk67 · · Score: 5, Funny

      Seriously? That's like $70 in dog money.

  9. wrong by slashmydots · · Score: 2, Insightful

    "The image on a standard television screen is updated 60 times per second"
    I'm fairly certain that all US broadcast TV is around 27 FPS and non-HD cable is the same and there's no way satellite wastes bandwidth on high FPS. I think only HD is 60FPS. Just because an LCD is refreshing at 60 or 120Hz doesn't mean that's what the tower or cable company is sending.

    Also, dog TV is a stupid idea. The last thing I want is my dog ramming and clawing to death my expensive television.

    Fill disclosure: I don't actually have a dog or a TV. I'm allergic and live in an apartment and I use a tuner card on my PC.

    1. Re:wrong by sunami · · Score: 1

      The flicker issue is dependent on how often the screen refreshes, not how often the image changes.

    2. Re:wrong by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The video stream is at 27 FPS (actually, 29.97), but the screen is updated at ~60Hz. The screen and video signal do not have to be refreshed at the exact same rate. NTSC, the analog standard in the US, is refreshed at 59.94 Hz. The issue the summary is talking about is the problem of dogs not being able to see a coherent image on a CRT refreshed at 60Hz, since they need a faster refresh rate to see the image and not the individual scan lines.

      Mind you, for an LCD display it doesn't matter how fast it is refreshed, the image won't flicker anyways. It's only a problem for CRTs (and DLP-based projectors, I think, although I'm not sure if it's an actual issue).

    3. Re:wrong by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "The image on a standard television screen..."

      wrong

      No, I am pretty sure they are right. It is you that misread and implied that they were meaning the recorded transmission was at a lower FPS.

      A standard TV screen in the US most certainly does refresh at 60FPS regardless of the signal. That is what was said and only that, nothing else.

      Why do people do this? Why do people misread something, comment with wild accusations instead of, you know, RE-READING?
      Come on now. Please.

    4. Re:wrong by jbengt · · Score: 1

      "The image on a standard television screen is updated 60 times per second"
      I'm fairly certain that all US broadcast TV is around 27 FPS and non-HD cable is the same . . .

      US broadcast TV is around 30 FPS, but the image on the screen is updated at around 60Hz. The confusion may be that standard TV is interlaced - it only updates every other line each time, therefore a full frame takes 2 cycles. Most HD TV stations/ cable channels also broadcast interlaced, even though most HD TVs are now capable of full 60 Hz progressive.

    5. Re:wrong by White+Flame · · Score: 1

      Point is, there is no flicker in non-CRT displays, and thus the flicker fusion frequency isn't involved at all. Having picture motion seem fluid & realistic, and color range & perception, are separate issues.

  10. My dog already watches by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Any time a bear , dog, elephant or dear shows, my dog is right there growling and barking.
    Started happening after our last cable update.
    No interest in Housewives however.

    1. Re:My dog already watches by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My dog watches several programs but has little interest in ads. Programs that have long ads puts the dog to sleep. Once we received a credit card application in the mail addressed to my dogs' name (true story). We considered using a paw print and applying but didn't. Now it would have been useful to buy crap shown on doggie ads.

  11. And now by kryliss · · Score: 4, Funny

    a word from our sponser.

    Woof woof woof bark bark howl bark bark bark growl woof woof woof wimper pant pant pant woof bark bark bark hooooooooowwwwwwwwwllllllll Purina!!

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    1. Re:And now by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The real tech behind DogTV: the subliminal messaging that makes dogs go nuts for the chosen treat?

  12. But what about the Cats? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Cats demand the Laser Pointer Channel!

    1. Re:But what about the Cats? by plover · · Score: 1

      There's an iPad app for cats. It's a dot that moves around on a black screen, and responds to the touch of a paw.

      So a laser pointer channel would probably be a big hit. For six minutes, until Fluffy gets bored. Hope you didn't pay for the 2-year subscription!

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    2. Re:But what about the Cats? by CanHasDIY · · Score: 1

      There's an iPad app for cats. It's a dot that moves around on a black screen, and responds to the touch of a paw.

      People have gotten that lazy, have they? Can't even be bothered to lean against the wall and hold the button down on a 3 ounce device, oh no, let's just use the iUniversalBabySitter to entertain the kitty kitty; after all, it works so well on Junior!

      That's weak, yo.

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    3. Re:But what about the Cats? by plover · · Score: 1

      No, it's not weak. It's marketing, and it's profitable. People are obviously willing to spend their $0.99 on something that amuses them.

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  13. Meanwhile, Rome burns... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Give us bread and circuses, and make sure our animals are distracted so they can't alert us to the downfall of civilization.

    This truly is the decline of the American Empire.

    1. Re:Meanwhile, Rome burns... by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 1

      I'm pretty sure it was geese that provided warnings of incipient threats to the empire(though it was the republic, at the time)...

    2. Re:Meanwhile, Rome burns... by ColdWetDog · · Score: 1

      Give us bread and circuses, and make sure our animals are distracted so they can't alert us to the downfall of civilization.

      This truly is the decline of the American Empire.

      Wait. What?

      We just elected two utter bozos to the Presidency and a whole herd of idiots, fools and felons to Congress. You're worried about a television program? That caters to dogs?

      Pick up the nearest block of wood and whap yourself upside the head with it a few times. See if that helps.

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    3. Re:Meanwhile, Rome burns... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      make sure our animals are distracted so they can't alert us to the downfall of civilization.

      You realize they did that years ago, and we completely ignored them, right? I mean, if we're not going to pay any attention to the warning, why not at least entertain them while we're going down?

    4. Re:Meanwhile, Rome burns... by geminidomino · · Score: 1

      That's their own fault. If they'd done it in a choreographed musical number like they were supposed to, we might have picked up on it.

      Nah, probably not.

  14. Here is the news adapted for dogs by dkleinsc · · Score: 2, Funny

    Good evening. Here is the news for dogs. No dogs were involved in an accident on the M1 today when a lorry carrying high-octane fuel was in collision with a bollard. That's a bollard and not a dog. A spokesman for dogs said he was glad no dogs were involved. The Minister of Technology today met the three Russian leaders to discuss a £4 million airliner deal. None of them lay in their crates, chased their own tails, or ate any of the nice raw beef yum, yum. That's the end of the news, now our program for dogs continues with part three of 'A Tale of Two Cities', specially adapted for dogs by Joey.

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    1. Re:Here is the news adapted for dogs by CanHasDIY · · Score: 1

      That's the end of the news, now our program for dogs continues with part three of 'A Tail of Two Cities', specially adapted for dogs by Joey.

      Aw, c'mon, man, that was an easy one!

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  15. another inaccuracy by slashmydots · · Score: 1

    The flicker fusion amount isn't a number. A DLP projector at 120Hz will drive me crazy but 240Hz is less noticeable. A CRT set to 60Hz will just about make my eyes bleed but 75Hz won't. An LCD set to 60Hz looks like a smooth motion to me. DLP merges RGB with a noticeable dark gap between them. CRTs have a high amount of luminosity difference between the frames so it's more noticeable. LCDs are very subtle and can get away with a lower Hz without humans noticing it. So not only is it different between people but it's different depending on how different color or brightness-wise the frames actually are.

    1. Re:another inaccuracy by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 1

      With the exception of the (distinctly expensive) 3-element DLP systems, the frequency is a bit of a lie.

      In a single DLP setup, you only have one mirror array, of whatever resolution, which can attenuate each pixel more or less. That alone would only get you a greyscale image, so they toss a color wheel(and it is a literal wheel, the psychedelic seizurevision effect that occurs if the wheel or its drive motor are encumbered by dust or debris and start spinning out of sync with the rest of the system is something to see...) in the beampath and every third frame is R, G, or B, with your eye supposed to be doing the addition(and it mostly works, though your peripheral vision will likely pick up the effect, being more motion sensitive than central vision).

      A 3-element unit has 3 DLPs, each with a fixed color filter, and simultaneous RGB output, and should look markedly less odd for the same nominal frequency.

    2. Re:another inaccuracy by ColdWetDog · · Score: 1

      It''s not a number. OK, what is it? A vegetable?

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    3. Re:another inaccuracy by slashmydots · · Score: 1

      It's called a "range." You may have learned about it in 4th grade math.

    4. Re:another inaccuracy by jones_supa · · Score: 1

      The flicker fusion amount isn't a number. A DLP projector at 120Hz will drive me crazy but 240Hz is less noticeable. A CRT set to 60Hz will just about make my eyes bleed but 75Hz won't. An LCD set to 60Hz looks like a smooth motion to me. DLP merges RGB with a noticeable dark gap between them. CRTs have a high amount of luminosity difference between the frames so it's more noticeable. LCDs are very subtle and can get away with a lower Hz without humans noticing it. So not only is it different between people but it's different depending on how different color or brightness-wise the frames actually are.

      That is actually because LCDs have a separate frequency for the backlight, which is much higher than the picture frame rate.

      Also see Ask Slashdot: Does LED Backlight PWM Drive You Crazy?

    5. Re:another inaccuracy by Chris+Mattern · · Score: 1

      It''s not a number. OK, what is it?

      It is a free man!

    6. Re:another inaccuracy by ColdWetDog · · Score: 1

      OK, too many NSA / CIA / FBI threads for you. Time for a break.

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  16. Re:wealth brings stupidity by rubycodez · · Score: 1, Insightful

    yes, I have love and compassion for human life over anything else. but apparently you don't think the risk of stressed animal in fear of its life in cockpit of helicopter to human life is any issue, because some animals are so cute and cuddly. How about my neighbor's six foot python and rattlesnake, can he bring them in rescue chopper?

  17. I showed a clip to my dog by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Here are his comments:

    Bow wow. Bow wow. Woof-woof-woof. Grrrr. Bow wow! Bow wow! Grrrrrrrrrr... Bark! Bark! Bark! Bow wow! Bow wow! Woof! Bow wow. Bow wow. Woof-woof-woof. Grrrr. Bow wow! Bow wow! Bark! Bark! Bark! Bow wow! Grrrrrr! Bark! Bow wow! Bow wow! Woof! Bow wow. Bow wow. Woof-woof-woof. Grrrr. Bow wow! Bow wow! Bark! Bark! Bark! Bow wow!

  18. Re:wealth brings stupidity by rubycodez · · Score: 0

    you are the sociopath, valuing some animal you judge as "cute" over humans safety. rescue chopper is no place for loose animals, disaster rescue is no time to be wasting time on beasts. you have no perspective on reality

  19. And then after 11:00 PM... by kaizendojo · · Score: 5, Funny

    it becomes DogTV - "After Dark"... featuring the Humping Things Show and Hot Bitches in Heat.

  20. Flicker fusion bullshit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The only flicker in modern TFT displays (note: NOT Plasma screens) comes from the back-light, but otherwise, TFT screens have been essentially flicker free as long as they exist. Unless they can deliver programs that deliver at least 80 frames per second, the whole argument about "fluid motion" is one big pile of bullshit.

    The sole exception might be TVs that have some kind of motion enhancement, that interpolates the "missing" frames and produces a higher frame rate that way. In almost all cases I've seen it, it sucks, but maybe dogs take this for real...

  21. Here Comes Canine Prime Time by sl4shd0rk · · Score: 1

    7pm - How I met your Rover (CBS)
    8pm - CSI: Cat Scene Investigation (NBC)
    9pm - Bitch Swap (LifeTime)
    10pm - WooWoo Scooby Doo (Hustler HD)

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    1. Re:Here Comes Canine Prime Time by lxs · · Score: 1

      What time will Game of Bones be on?

    2. Re:Here Comes Canine Prime Time by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      11pm - The Big Bark Theory.
      The loveable comedy about 4 nerdy dogs and a beautiful golden retriever.

    3. Re:Here Comes Canine Prime Time by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You neglected FOX and ABC in your list. Come now, they are all suffering and need ratings (maybe not Hustler who tends to have more real "News" than FOX). Dogs may give them the Nealson ratings they so badly need!

  22. my dog stares at the TV by gordona · · Score: 2

    My pooch will stare at our 42" LED screen. He goes crazy when a talking head appears and stares back at him. The dog doesn't like strangers staring at him. He also reacts to other animals on the screen and cartoon characters. Sometimes he'll run around to the other side of the wall on which the TV is mounted as if he is looking for something behind the TV/wall as if the TV were a window to the other side of the wall. And no, the dog is not on drugs (neither am I).

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  23. Try it by Impy+the+Impiuos+Imp · · Score: 1

    "Stanley Coren reports that a number of new television stations are providing programming specifically designed for dogs"

    Correction: The stations are specifically designed for dog owners, just like bacon-flavored chews. See also TV shows to educate babies.

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  24. Re:wealth brings stupidity by tibit · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Because, of course, helicopters are cat-allergic, right? The rotor sneezes and disintegrates as soon as a cat comes anywhere near.

    In other words, get a grip. Not all emergencies are alike. If you have a small pet in your arms, there's no reason at all for the rescuers to tell you to forgo it. Heck, what you're arguing is pretty much life over quality of life. Yeah, we'll rescue you at any cost, but $DEITY forbid the rescuee has a living thing with them to comfort them. Being displaced in an emergency is obviously no biggie for you and you will stomach it like a big boy, right? You should have rotten for a couple of weeks at the superdome with all the other "ingrates" to get a humanistic perspective.

    If it was an emergency where the rest of my immediate family would be already dead, and I had a choice of being rescued with our cat or perishing with him, I'd probably choose the latter. Say what you will, but our cat always knows when there's something wrong with one of us, and he sometimes works quite hard at comforting us. When my wife got back from a C-section, the cat would walk directly across her scar, massaging it. He kept at it for weeks. Nobody prompted it, it didn't see the scar directly, and so on. He just knew what to do. I have plenty of other examples like that. Just because it's not human doesn't mean it's life is worthless. Just to preempt what might be coming: no, I'm not freeing any lab monkeys, thank you very much, it'd be a retarded thing to do. Neither is our cat a "member" of our family. He's our cat. He gets his food and water, his vet check-ups, has a few small toys, and is kept indoors. He treats us with care, and we do the same, but we don't go overboard. He scratches a couple of designated dining room chairs, we don't have any pet furniture.

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  25. Re:wealth brings stupidity by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Well done getting all the kneejerk reactions.

  26. Not a joke? by nozzo · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I checked, it's not April 1st.

    I don't know what to say about dog TV.

    1. Re:Not a joke? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I checked, it's not April 1st.

      I don't know what to say about dog TV.

      Are you using a typewriter, or are you a pretentious douche bag?

  27. Re:wealth brings stupidity by ColdWetDog · · Score: 1

    Oh give it up, I think you might have some issues along these lines.

    Even the Coast Guard figured it out a while back. It used to be they wouldn't rescue animals off boats. Then people stayed with the animals and the CG got some bad press. Now they'll winch off dogs and cats along with people.

    Funny, more people would rather rescue animals than fellow humans. Just what does that say about our species?

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  28. Probably an improvement in TV by Tridus · · Score: 3, Funny

    I guess the dogs are too smart to watch the crapfest channels like TLC, so we need better channels to cater to them.

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  29. 55hz? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Humans can easily discern 200hz or more.

    1. Re:55hz? by ahabswhale · · Score: 1

      uh...no we can't. If we could, then we would be extremely annoyed by the flash of our monitors and TVs. Seriously, this is just common sense; no science required.

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    2. Re:55hz? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Humans can easily discern 200hz or more.

      Only because we can build tools to detect it. Our eyes are totally not capable of that.

  30. Slashdot Seek the Elusive Geek Market by discord5 · · Score: 1

    discord5 reports that slashdot is attempting to provide articles specifically designed for geek and while many people report that their geeks completely ignore what is visible on slashdot, with modern HTML5 and AJAX, more geeks have become potential slashdot readers.

    The increase in geek readership is primarily attributed to the way the geek's eye works. The buildup of a standard webpage is updated once per click and since a human's maximum clicking frequency is only 55 Hz, the webpage appears continuous and the gradually changing webpages give us the illusion of content. However geeks can discern content at up to 80 Hz so with the increased availability of highly dynamic AJAX webpages that are refreshed at a much higher rate, the content is less likely to appear to be interesting to the geeks eye.

    Presentation factors are also an issue. Geeks are most likely to respond to images that have been captured at the eye level of a geek with a low camera angle from the basement where there are moving things like das Blinkenlichte. But even if that requirement is fulfilled, most geeks do not read slashdot because the website has become devoid of actual content despite it's high rate AJAX updates and rounded corners.

    And now, an article about the Dog Network, as irrelevant to geeks as sharks are to the Fonz... Eyyyyyy.

    Now if you'll excuse me, my compiling is done, and I'm not even going to bother reading the article which at best can only be described as interesting... no wait, the other one... TEDIOUS

  31. More intelligent than TV for humans by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    At least watching this probably won't make you stupider, as most programming for humans seems to do.

  32. Re:wealth brings stupidity by ColdWetDog · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Like I said, give it up. Helicopter pilots have winched off many a 'wild, stressed animal'. You put it in a cage, you put a muzzle on it, you strap it down somewhere.

    Exactly what you would do with the stressed, out of control human that you've just winched off the tree.

    And no, if you want to take your snakes, you're on your own. We're in it for the cutes.

    Humans can be rational at times, but it certainly isn't their default condition.

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  33. dogs dont see RGB by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Wont work - dogs don't see color in terms of red, green, and blue like how people see (and thus how we encode color).

    Dogs aren't interested in what's on tv because it's just blobs to them.

  34. Re:wealth brings stupidity by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Fuck you too.

  35. I call BS by codeButcher · · Score: 1

    But even if that requirement is fulfilled, most dogs do not watch television

    I say their reasoning is wishful thinking. There are a lot of dogs who are too intelligent to get drawn into watching TV.

    What next? News for dogs, stuff that is edible?

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  36. Re:wealth brings stupidity by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So you're mentally ill and take that out on others. Big deal.

  37. Cat Videos by Anonymous+Codger · · Score: 1

    Years ago my wife bought a VHS tape that was intended to entertain cats. It was all videos of squirrels, birds, and other prey moving around and making sounds. One of our two cats ignored it, but the other was fascinated. He could watch the entire one-hour tape without getting bored. He would occasionally try to move around behind the TV to get a better vantage point. At first he would often swat at the images on the screen, but he learned fairly quickly that he couldn't catch them that way.

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    1. Re:Cat Videos by CanHasDIY · · Score: 1

      My dad once had a cat that would watch tennis. Didn't care about nature shows or anything else... but as soon as he heard the homoerotic sound of 2 people grunting and smacking a little ball with rackets, he would appear and sit mere inches from the screen, watching the game intensely.

      Cats are strange animals.

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  38. What's next? by Tablizer · · Score: 1

    ..."Dancing with Cats"?

  39. Absolutely unimportant by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The deal with screens seeming "flickery" to animals has not been relevant for years. For a long time we have adopted LCD technology or other similar flat means of displaying images, which do not flicker physically by nature as a CRT television does, when this research was done. Perhaps an LCD backlit with pulse-width-modulated LEDs may produce some flicker, but animals (including dogs) have been able to see our televisions for years.

  40. "animals or birds"? by gardyloo · · Score: 2

    If I'd just smelled the latest rumor that there are birds in my neighborhood which are NOT animals, I'd be on the lookout for them, too!

    1. Re:"animals or birds"? by Covalent · · Score: 1

      This was exactly what I was thinking. I hear this all the time as "Animals and Insects". And then I find myself yelling at the TV: "They are multicellular mobile heterotrophs!"

      And then I remember what a sad sad nerd I am.

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    2. Re:"animals or birds"? by Chris+Mattern · · Score: 1

      They're NSA robots. Better not to interfere with them.

    3. Re:"animals or birds"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nah Guv. That's juss wot they tell you. Once you get'em in the sack all birds are animals. Absolutely gagging for it.

  41. 55hz? bs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That's rubbish. If human flicker fusion was 55 hz you couldn't watch movies, frame rate 24 hz.
    Investigative journalism is dead, just report any bs you see on twitter or facebook.
    Next up, Is Your Dog Psychic?

    1. Re:55hz? bs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      it's closer to 14~16 hz

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flicker_fusion_threshold

    2. Re:55hz? bs by dcw3 · · Score: 1

      Correct, the poster didn't even read the link he provided http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flicker_fusion_threshold. That shows the human rate to be around 16Hz.
      From the page...
      "For the purposes of presenting moving images, the human flicker fusion threshold is usually taken as 16 hertz (Hz). In actual practice, movies are recorded at 24 frames per second, and TV cameras operate at 25 or 30 frames per second, depending on the TV system used."

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    3. Re:55hz? bs by julesh · · Score: 1

      It does however go on to suggest that some high-intensity flickering may be detectable (by cones only and not by rods) at up to 60Hz, which is somewhat closer to OP's figure.

    4. Re:55hz? bs by Baby+Duck · · Score: 1

      Then how come back in the CRT monitor days I could see the flicker at 60 Hz and not at 75 Hz? If I'm at 12 Hz, maybe I'm picking it up as 5th harmonic. I doubt I am at 15 Hz picking it up as a 4th harmonic, because then the 75 Hz would hurt MORE as a 5th harmonic.

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  42. Remember "Scrooged"? by geminidomino · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Talk about life imitating art.

    "If only I could fire that poor son of a bitch" -- Frank Cross (Bill Murray), in response to exec Robert Mitchum's "suggestion" to create programs appealing to dogs and cats.

    1. Re:Remember "Scrooged"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      When it was being discussed, Bill Murray told the receptionist to "Call the Police"!

  43. Your governement is downright stupid by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It has been known for a long time that some people would rather die with their pet than give them up. And they realize that... now ? Woot. Next time they spy on us, they should try to ask the NSA to download copy of sociologic study on people and pet. maybe they'll then learn something of importance for once.

  44. Bump up the frame rate for humans too by jones_supa · · Score: 1

    Instead of the next moar-pixelz video standard, I'd like to see the frame rate kicked up a notch. The 60fps game streams are wonderfully fluid to watch at twitch.tv, for example.

  45. This is a really, really *bad* idea by bradley13 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Quick, hold up your hand if you laughed when your puppy first encountered a mirror! It's hilarious: "OMG there's another dog in the room". Depending on the dog, they will be fooled once, twice, maybe three times - that's it. Afterwards they realize that there's nothing there, and ignore it. It's the same for television. We have a herding dog, and the first time he saw animals on television (I think it was sheep), "OMG, I gotta go herd". Second time, he looked and then yawned. He didn't look a third time. Anyone who pays attention to their animals will have seen this. They know what's real and what's not. Things that are not real are not interesting.

    There are already far too many dog owners who think that dogs are like furniture: there when you want them, and otherwise they can be ignored. Dogs need activity, they need interaction with their owners, they need a job to do (especially the working breeds). This stupid idea is going to make bad dog owners even worse: They will think they've done something to keep their dog busy, and will feel even less obligated to actually take proper care of their animals.

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    1. Re:This is a really, really *bad* idea by Capt.DrumkenBum · · Score: 1

      My girlfriends dog loses her shit when she sees the dog in the mirror. It is really quite entertaining.
      This happens often enough that we have given the mirror dog a name.

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    2. Re:This is a really, really *bad* idea by Xest · · Score: 1

      Agree with you on keeping dogs busy, that's something I make sure I do given that I have two very active dogs also.

      But I disagree on them not caring about things that aren't real, my border collie will happily just sit and watch the TV. When Lion Man is on his eyes are transfixed on the screen for the full duration of the show- I'm not saying he understands it or anything stupid like that but he's very clearly intrigued by the sight of the lions. He ignores it if it's just people most of the time but time and time again he'll consistently watch certain things, particularly nature shows.

  46. fluorescent lighting by jjeffries · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Being able to discern flickers at 80hz probably makes fluorescent lighting annoying as fuck.

  47. Mine just needs sound by stabiesoft · · Score: 2

    Is there a cheaper plan with just audio? My dog doesn't pay any attention to the images, but if he hears a dog bark on the show, he cocks his head to figure out where it is coming from. In reality I would never buy a channel specifically for him. I think it is far better to actually walk him once or twice a day getting both of us some exercise and let him wander the yard whenever he wants. For him and I imagine many other canines, its almost all about smell. He can smell a rat in a tree at night, smell. At first when he would be barking at 10 at night, I'd be thinking, what. Then I get a flashlight and sure enough a pair of beady eyes would look back at me 10 feet up in the tree. Its nothing short of amazing.

    1. Re:Mine just needs sound by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Is there a cheaper plan with just audio?

      It would need to be surround sound or the dogs would get bored.

  48. Re:wealth brings stupidity by stdarg · · Score: 1

    Funny, more people would rather rescue animals than fellow humans. Just what does that say about our species?

    I think it's a combination of beliefs. People can rescue themselves, especially from human-created problems, and the people who can't rescue themselves are often "broken" in a way that other people can't help (or don't know how). Animals can't rescue themselves from human-created problems (from invading their habitats to not spaying and neutering pets) and often respond very well to human help.

    I mean not in all situations (wouldn't apply to your Coast Guard example, or natural disasters like Hurricane Katrina) but it explains why some people might donate to a "save the whales" fund but not donate to "save the starving children" funds. There usually is a large volunteer/donation response to natural disasters that affect humans.

  49. Re:wealth brings stupidity by stdarg · · Score: 2

    He scratches a couple of designated dining room chairs, we don't have any pet furniture.

    I bet he's the one who designated those chairs though :)

  50. Finally I can be a responsible dog owner! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I've been wondering how I could get more use out of my old CRT television sets... Now I can sit a whole bunch of dogs in front of them with this 'programing' on! I always wanted to be a dog baby sitter but it's so hot outside and it's hard for me to talk since the foot surgery I had from my diabetes. But now I don't have to walk them and I can sit around and watch my soaps on my new HD flatscreen! And the best part is, It will be my new high tech dog sitting service! People are going to pay me!

  51. Re:wealth brings stupidity by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    My choice would be to save the cat or dog and shoot you, flinging your worthless carcass away. The cat or dog has probably led a more worthwhile life and made a more positive contribution (in fact some viruses are probably more useful than you).

  52. Whatever is shown on DogTV... by fahrbot-bot · · Score: 1

    ...will probably be better than most network / basic-cable shows.

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  53. Smell-o-vision by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Forget the video, dogs have an acute sense of smell. Ripe road kill will have them clustered around the TV all day long.

  54. What about the TV. by Daas · · Score: 1

    I'm sure it's a lovely idea until you come back home and your TV has become an interactive chewing tool...

  55. Probably already bundled... by SDrag0n · · Score: 1

    This is probably bundled in with other important stuff like MTV and Ice Road Truckers 35. Exactly the reason I decided to cut the cable (or the satellite etc.)

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  56. My dog is a 100 lb pit bull - great dane mix... by swb · · Score: 1

    ....and I really, really DO NOT want him to react to animals on the television. It's bad enough when he reacts to some dogs out the window, I'm afraid he'd destroy my television if he saw a squirrel, duck or rabbit on TV.

    1. Re:My dog is a 100 lb pit bull - great dane mix... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      what's the point of having such a dog? why not just get a crazy ram?

  57. Re:wealth brings stupidity by GrumpySteen · · Score: 3, Funny

    When my wife got back from a C-section, the cat would walk directly across her scar, massaging it. He kept at it for weeks. Nobody prompted it, it didn't see the scar directly, and so on. He just knew what to do.

    Your cat sensed that your wife was weakened and was going for the most vulnerable spot. It was trying to kill your wife but, like most cats, didn't do a very good job of it.

    Don't get me wrong; I love cats, but I can't help but notice that many of them seem to be competing for the title of "World's Most Incompetent Villain."

  58. My dog can confirm this by Spy+Handler · · Score: 1

    he doesn't watch the TV in the living room, which is an older 60hz model. It might as well be a piece of stone, he doesn't acknowledge its existence.

    However in the bedroom is a new 240hz LG LED with "tru motion". He frequently runs up to it and barks at it whenever he sees other dogs or people wearing dark-colored clothing.

    He's a 1 year old chihuahua btw

    1. Re:My dog can confirm this by Valdrax · · Score: 1

      I'm surprised that he doesn't bark at the older TV. A 1 year old chihuahua will bark at anything: vacuum cleaners, blenders, the neighbor's doorbell, ice cream trucks, spiders, particularly large clumps of dust in a sunbeam, etc....

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  59. So... by Hartree · · Score: 1

    So, you're saying you want our dogs to be as zoned out and slack jawed as our kids?

  60. Re:wealth brings stupidity by rubycodez · · Score: 1

    No, it says you and some other people have a very childish and immature notion of reality that becomes a hazard to human life in an emergency. Beasts that in any way hamper a rescue effort need to be disposed of

  61. Re:wealth brings stupidity by rubycodez · · Score: 1

    No time nor space for that nonsense of caging, muzzling, strapping animal in dire emergency such as getting people off roofs in hurricane katrina

  62. Obligatory by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's been done.From Scrooged with Bill Murray and Robert Mitchum.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Oa5yEq2qvM

  63. Re:wealth brings stupidity by rubycodez · · Score: 1

    cat in open aircraft? your cat will panic. you can't guarantee that cat won't jump free and cause disaster. no, you absolutely should not be allowed to bring any clawed fanged animal into cockpit.

  64. Maybe I'm missing something.... by Rick+Zeman · · Score: 1

    ...but last time I looked, my dog, cute as she is, has no disposable income.

  65. Dogs are not visual creatures by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    In a dogs world, smells are more important to them then vision. To make TV appealing to dogs, it would also have to include smell. Considering the smells dogs like include other dogs rear ends and roadkill, incorporating dog smell-o-vision won't likely to be popular.

  66. It's a stupid idea... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    But to be fair, it can't be *much* worse than the crap shown on British TV, these days.

  67. Re:wealth brings stupidity by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Glad to see you agree with the rest of us that you should be put out of your misery if you're ever present in an emergency situation. Immature assholes like you who want to make themselves look all tough and important by denigrating others and making crude, insensitive demands that make the panicking and upset people even more panicking and upset hamper rescue efforts far more than someone who's worried about their dog. The first time you shot someone's dog and insulted them in that sort of situation, the owner of the dog would probably do everything in their power to rip your throat out, and not only would you deserve it, they probably wouldn't even face any jail time for it due to your stupidly exacerbating an already stressful situation.

  68. What the F&$k? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    What? If you really like your dog you won't be plopping them in front of the goddam TV like you do your kids! You will give them attention, take them for walks, and spend time with them. There is absolutely no "good" reason to do this, let alone trying to figure out how to monetize it. Worried about your dog being alone? Spend time with them! Worried about your dog's fashion sense? Dogs hate clothes you dumbass, so don't put them on the dog! Worried about their toy collection? Buy the dog a bone and they will be happy for days! Worried about their diet? Stop feeding them McDonald's!

    The only reason something like this should happen is that people have become so lazy and socially retarded that they now feel the need to treat their dogs just like their children, or maybe they didn't have any kids to screw up so feel left out.

    1. Re:What the F&$k? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Do you live on welfare? Or are you independently wealthy? Most people have jobs. You can spend time with the dogs after work, but they will be alone when you are out working. And yes, some people can't have children or they choose to not have children, so they treat their pets like children. There is nothing wrong with that. Some women feel their career and lifestyle are more important than having children.

  69. What is this bullshit? April Fools' Day? by citizenr · · Score: 1

    >human's flicker fusion frequency is only 55 Hz

    No it is not, guess what is the frame rate of PAL. Nice touch linking to wikipedia as if linked article corroborates your bullshit (it doesnt).

    Modern LCD TVs DO NOT FLICKER. Picture stays on the screen until next frame comes, there is no fade out and sudden flash.

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  70. Re:wealth brings stupidity by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Tell us more about how you know about rescue operations than the people who actually perform them.

  71. Or they could just buy some more writing staff by Marrow · · Score: 1

    Has anyone noticed there is NOTHING ON this summer? What the hell !!??!!

  72. Prime Time? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I hope the shows that are unsuitable for family oriented viewing, are left until after prime time. I don't want my Stella to be influenced by dog gangs and dog violence.

  73. Re:wealth brings stupidity by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What about your compassion for that crying five year old who just lost all her belongings and is about to lose the doggie she's had all her life? Your attitude is heartless towards people, not animals.

  74. What was comedy.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What was comedy in 1988 is reality today...

  75. Any day now by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This is going to really take off once they figure out how to make advertisements that target a dog audience.

    You know, because dogs have such a lot of disposable income.

  76. Re:wealth brings stupidity by tibit · · Score: 1

    Nope, he gets the message if we get upset about something he has done. He's quite good about remembering it as well. Maybe we are just lucky.

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  77. Re:wealth brings stupidity by tibit · · Score: 1

    A bird once flew into the house through an open window - perhaps because there was another window open on the other side of the room, so it looked like there was clear way through. The cat happened to be in the room at the time, and the bird never made it to the opposite window. We couldn't react in time to prevent the poor bird from getting his neck broken as soon as the cat brought it down, nay, slammed it down on the floor.

    If our cat wanted to maim us, he certainly could. If he's in a rogue mood, he'll chase and kill occasional insects that make it into the house. Mostly he's too lazy too bother, so he just observes them and sometimes uses his paws like flipper paddles in a pinball machine.

    The massaging walk was done right at the edge of pain. It was painful, but any time it got too painful, the walk was over, and it wasn't my wife telling the cat to sod off. If I get a headache and lay down, the cat wraps around my head. That's the only time he does it.

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  78. Re:wealth brings stupidity by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Like most internet 12-year-olds, he knows everything about everything! He learned it by playing a lot of 3d shooters, where you solve all of your problems with a gun, which clearly can be applied to the rest of the world's problems, and any poopyhead who tries to claim otherwise is wrong wrong wrong! Even if they actually do that stuff in the real world, whereas he's only ever fantasized about how awesome he'd be at it, telling everyone what to do and shooting them when they don't do it his way, 'cause he's just the bestest evar.

  79. Err, yeah... by emag · · Score: 1

    OK, so I'm a dog owner, and I spoil the hell out of my dogs. So much so that I spend my lunch break at home, walking them, then wolf down food. I buy super-premium dog food (hint: they need less, so there's less mess and it lasts longer). I have shelves of my pantry dedicated to treats. There's more room for the dogs on the sofa than for me and my wife. And I'd never even think that having my dogs watch TV is a good idea. Besides, they're constantly entertained laying on the ottoman by the window, barking at anything and everything that passes the house...

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  80. Why not for cats? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I doubt dogs can tell gender. To thread hijack - my cat watches my LCD TV often. He gets confused by panning shots, loves birds and sort of recognizes cartoon animals if they have realistic animal noises. He is scared of any doorbell like noises as he is shy, but seems curious about dogs more than scared. Unless it is birds he doesn't really stand under the TV tranced. He loves watching duck or goose hunting and I think understands most of what is going on now, kind of freaky. He also has a word for birds sort of an 'ack ack' that he has taught our other cat and will run in to our room in the morning talking about them when he sees them.

  81. My dog chased dinosaurs... by Dusty101 · · Score: 1

    Yup, I've seen this as well.

    We had a King Charles spaniel that used to jump up at the screen and bark whenever there was horse racing (flat racing) on the TV.

    Even funnier, though, was that he was a *big* fan of "Walking With Dinosaurs" - he used to get very aggressive, bark, & try to face down the dinosaurs on the TV. I always thought that it was a real testament to the computer animation on that show that it could trick him into thinking they were realistically moving animals.

  82. Who? by Livius · · Score: 1

    I swear when I looked it said "Stephen Colbert reports"....

  83. Cat television... by Livius · · Score: 1

    ...didn't turn out so well:

    www.simonscat.com/Films/Screen-Grab/

  84. NSA trolling with Kinect/EyeToy/Mobile game by dstyle5 · · Score: 1

    Someone needs to make a Kinect/Eye Toy/Mobile game that engages pets and generates a bunch of bogus random data for NSA spend resources crunching.

  85. Slashdot sucks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    n/t

  86. 28 million murder cats by Valdrax · · Score: 1

    A bird once flew into the house through an open window - perhaps because there was another window open on the other side of the room, so it looked like there was clear way through. The cat happened to be in the room at the time, and the bird never made it to the opposite window. We couldn't react in time to prevent the poor bird from getting his neck broken as soon as the cat brought it down, nay, slammed it down on the floor.

    If our cat wanted to maim us, he certainly could. If he's in a rogue mood, he'll chase and kill occasional insects that make it into the house. Mostly he's too lazy too bother, so he just observes them and sometimes uses his paws like flipper paddles in a pinball machine.

    How much do cats actually kill?

    A bit off-topic, but I just thought I'd put that out there. I think the GP is being way to kind/naive in calling cats "incompetent" supervillains.

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  87. dog attacks TV by GeRM_007 · · Score: 1

    My dogs occasionally rush at jump at the TV when they see other animals. Luckily the TV is far enough back on the TV stand that they haven't reached it, yet. This channel will not work in my household.

  88. Re:wealth brings stupidity by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Life is full of loss and hardship evidenced by the fact that little Suzy has just lost all her posessions and had to be rescued from whatever. It sucks, it's hurtful but it is life. Sugar coating the world and trying to make it all rainbows and unicorns is one of the least compassionate things one can do for a child. They have to learn sometime.

  89. Also not a joke by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I checked, it's not 1996.

    I also don't know what to say about dog TV but I do know that your stupid Courier font makes me want to punch a baby.

  90. I guess that by kilodelta · · Score: 1

    Cats are completely out of the picture. But then I note our cat will occasionally watch action shows.

  91. Wasteful by bobbozzo · · Score: 1

    So, while we're running out of fossil fuels, and nuclear plants are closing due to told age (and new ones aren't getting built in the US), we're creating an excuse for people to leave their TVs on??

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  92. Re:wealth brings stupidity by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    One, and only one of the following statements is true:

    1) The act of not forcibly pulling a beloved pet out of a crying child's arms and summarily executing it is "sugar coating the world".

    2) You're a moron.

  93. US carbon emissions increase... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    As people leave their televisions on for their fucking dogs.

    A tiny island nation full of people who have less access to medicine than your dog, drowns.

    This planet makes no damn sense.

  94. Re:wealth brings stupidity by Xest · · Score: 1

    I don't think you realise that people can have the same psychological attachment to pets as they can to children. Shooting it and throwing the carcass away is going to trigger the same response and resentment as shooting their child and throwing it away.

    Don't be surprised if said individual goes on a shooting spree and kills a bunch of people shortly after because of your braindead plan.

  95. Re:wealth brings stupidity by Xest · · Score: 1

    A human is just as, if not more likely to freak out in a helicopter than an animal.

    I don't know where you get this paranoid fantasy of pets going crazy in a helicopter, it's certainly not born out in reality.

    I think given how many people have now explained why you're wrong you may want to just admit you're wrong, rather than continuing to pretend you're not as everyone else looks on at you wondering why you're insisting so badly on being wrong.

    Sometimes an argument is so far lost that there's no point trying to salvage it and the only way to save face is to just admit you're wrong. You're at that point I'm afraid.

  96. Re:wealth brings stupidity by rubycodez · · Score: 1

    I think given the immature and juvenile people here who have never been in war or disaster, unlike me, we can see why disaster guidelines can't be taken from such.

    Housecats can open arteries on people, dogs have killed people. they have claws and fangs and act out of instinct when they feel threatened.

    Indeed, the argument is so very far lost on the clueless people with romantic notions and no common sense.

    A tip to you, shut up and follow instructions in an emergency, you are ill equipped to use your brain.

  97. Re:wealth brings stupidity by Xest · · Score: 1

    Sounds like the biggest mistake they made was rescuing you not the animals as you apparently don't have anything valuable to contribute to society whilst pets at least provide their owners with comfort.

  98. Re:wealth brings stupidity by rubycodez · · Score: 1

    guess again, I was not being rescued

  99. Re:wealth brings stupidity by rubycodez · · Score: 1

    you are speaking of one boat and no time limit, I'm talking of regional disaster where there is group after group of people needing rescue.

  100. Re:wealth brings stupidity by Xest · · Score: 1

    Ah, I see, so you're just horrendously bad at your job then because anyone actually doing rescuing would need to be compassionate and would recognise the value of saving pets in keeping people calm and comfortable in a tragic situation.

  101. Ow My Bones! by kmoser · · Score: 1

    That is all.