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A Peek At Apple's Planned $5B HQ

theodp writes "The Mercury News has an exclusive sneak peek of Apple's planned headquarters in Cupertino, which Steve Jobs personally sought approval for in 2011. 'We found that rectangles or squares or long buildings or buildings with more than four stories would inhibit collaboration,' Apple CFO Peter Oppenheimer said, explaining the motivation behind the so-called Apple Ring. Nice, but if you wanted to hurt the feelings of the Design Gods at Apple, you could point out that, for all its $5 billion glory, what Apple calls 'the best office building ever' doesn't look all that different from an old-school $3.95 6250 BPI magnetic tape reel (still available on eBay, kids!)."

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  1. With all due respect... by ameyer17 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    So what if it looks like a tape reel?

    1. Re:With all due respect... by andy1307 · · Score: 1

      It's another idiotic auto-green-lighted theodp post...

    2. Re:With all due respect... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Does it also turn like an old-school $3.95 6250 BPI magnetic tape reel? That would make an EPIC revolving restaurant.

    3. Re:With all due respect... by Libertarian001 · · Score: 1

      You mean like the Top of the World restaurant? http://www.topoftheworldlv.com/topoftheworld.htm

    4. Re:With all due respect... by erroneus · · Score: 5, Funny

      Looks like a "walled garden" to me.

    5. Re:With all due respect... by swillden · · Score: 1

      So what if it looks like a tape reel?

      It reminds me of the Pentagon. Circular instead of pentagonal, of course, but the proportions look very similar. I guess the Pentagon is almost a marvel of office design, it just needs to be rounded out a little more?

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    6. Re:With all due respect... by icebike · · Score: 1

      My thoughts exactly. The company mind-set personified.
      I wonder if they will have unicorns in their internal garden?

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    7. Re:With all due respect... by FatLittleMonkey · · Score: 1

      Headline: "Wheel shaped thing looks vaguely like other wheel shaped thing!" Stop the presses.

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    8. Re:With all due respect... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I wonder if they will have unicorns in their internal garden?

      How should we know what you wonder about?

      PS: The question mark goes on the end of a question. A period goes on the end of a statement.

    9. Re:With all due respect... by quenda · · Score: 1

      Looks like a Panopticon to me. Except the iSight in every monitor makes the central tower obsolete.

    10. Re:With all due respect... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Given the address of the current HQ, it looks more like an infinite loop :-)

    11. Re:With all due respect... by Andrio · · Score: 2, Funny

      Apple _does_ have a patent on rounded corners.

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    12. Re:With all due respect... by Solandri · · Score: 1

      No, you don't want round. The big problem with round is that it's perfectly symmetric. With a rectangle, or even a pentagon, there are distinct segments and directions to the building. You know where you're at, you know to get somewhere else you need to head in a certain direction until you see a wall or corner, then head in another direction. e.g. To get from one place to another in a pentagon, you know you need to walk one way, pass 1 or 2 corners, then walk a certain distance to your destination.

      In a circle, every part of the building you're in looks the same. You may know you have to travel 37 degrees around the arc, but after walking for a bit you aren't quite sure how many degrees you've traveled because there are no references - it all looks the same. To overcome this you need either really good labeling, or you have to add architectural landmarks to (virtually) break up the circle into physically "different" segments.

    13. Re:With all due respect... by hutsell · · Score: 1

      ... To overcome this you need either really good labeling, or you have to add architectural landmarks to (virtually) break up the circle into physically "different" segments.

      Another solution to add to that list of several likely solutions: Eveyone will need a really good compass.

      And, it'll most likely be something like that as an iPhone app.

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    14. Re:With all due respect... by tlhIngan · · Score: 2

      No, you don't want round. The big problem with round is that it's perfectly symmetric. With a rectangle, or even a pentagon, there are distinct segments and directions to the building. You know where you're at, you know to get somewhere else you need to head in a certain direction until you see a wall or corner, then head in another direction. e.g. To get from one place to another in a pentagon, you know you need to walk one way, pass 1 or 2 corners, then walk a certain distance to your destination.

      In a circle, every part of the building you're in looks the same. You may know you have to travel 37 degrees around the arc, but after walking for a bit you aren't quite sure how many degrees you've traveled because there are no references - it all looks the same. To overcome this you need either really good labeling, or you have to add architectural landmarks to (virtually) break up the circle into physically "different" segments.

      There are marvelous inventions called "windows" (the ones NOT by Microsoft) that let you have an external reference so walking one step in any direction doesn't look the same at all.

      There's also the other marvelous invention in your smartphone known as a compass that moves as you move about the circle.

      Of course, the nice thing with closed buildings like a circle or pentagon is that with sufficient exits, there is only a maximum distance one needs to walk to get from any point. Anyone having to deal with regular linear buildings knows of how it seems everything is always located at the other side.

    15. Re: With all due respect... by Rational · · Score: 1

      The Pentagon is the low-poly version.

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    16. Re:With all due respect... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You could just paint the walls in varying hues starting with blue and by degrees moving down the spectrum to red. "Where do you sit?" "Mauve or Chartreuse aw I don't know what this color is called" I guess you could also put the degrees from North.

    17. Re: With all due respect... by Rational · · Score: 1

      Sad, isn't it? Slashdot used to be *the* place for nerd conversation. Now we get the dregs that wouldn't pass muster on Gizmodo.

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    18. Re:With all due respect... by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      It's a reference to the fact that many Apple products look like other, older products.

      There is of course no shame in taking inspiration from what other people are doing. That's the way the world works and we are all better for it. Apple's problem is they then try to patent the design and sue the person they copied for using it.

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    19. Re:With all due respect... by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      I wondered if it would have rounded corners.

      It's got one. Or rather it is one!

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    20. Re:With all due respect... by Megane · · Score: 2

      They could put Steve's coffin/ashes at the middle of it to make it rotate. After all, the world revolves around him! Who needs perpetual motion when you can use RDF power!

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    21. Re:With all due respect... by swillden · · Score: 1

      No, you don't want round. The big problem with round is that it's perfectly symmetric. With a rectangle, or even a pentagon, there are distinct segments and directions to the building.

      Add to that that everyone I know who's worked in or visited the Pentagon finds it to be extremely difficult to navigate, and most of them call it the worst office building they've worked in.

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    22. Re: With all due respect... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      aircraft carriers are worse. (no windows). Well, except for Fire Control and suff like that.

    23. Re:With all due respect... by BonThomme · · Score: 2

      or use nanometers

    24. Re: With all due respect... by MysteriousPreacher · · Score: 1

      Stick with jokes about TV dinners.

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    25. Re:With all due respect... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'll wait for the Moebius strip building! Nuts to the tape-reel building.

    26. Re: With all due respect... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually, he's hot a point: it looks a lot like the British NSA-equivalent's headquarters.

    27. Re: With all due respect... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There's the angle!! There's the apple hater angle!! Even though it's just a bad metaphor.

    28. Re: With all due respect... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Maybe they'll just shoot the engineers around through vacuum tubes. Then you don't have to worry about location. Seemless.

    29. Re:With all due respect... by hairyfish · · Score: 1

      Where does everyone park their cars? I see a little arrow saying car park building, but a building that size will still need a lot of asphalt to park a lot of cars.

    30. Re:With all due respect... by gaudior · · Score: 1

      Parking garage under the ring. There's a pic of the entrance/exit tunnel.

  2. It looks like a tire by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    A 1/2" reel of computer tape has a much smaller hub diameter.

  3. So called Apple Ring, Should be Apple Core by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    the Warp Core should have its own Token

    1. Re:So called Apple Ring, Should be Apple Core by binarylarry · · Score: 1

      Apple hasn't teched far enough to unlock the warp core.

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    2. Re:So called Apple Ring, Should be Apple Core by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The Cock Ring should have its own dick -- they built it too late.

  4. Ring = Long Building by the+eric+conspiracy · · Score: 0

    Unless you are on the first floor and can walk across a courtyard a ring is really a long building looped so the ends connect.

    It seems very inefficient to me. A simple cube would very likely be far better than this design.

    1. Re:Ring = Long Building by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 1

      Unless you are on the first floor and can walk across a courtyard a ring is really a long building looped so the ends connect.

      With a linear building of length L, the max distance between two offices is L. For a circular building, it is L/2.

      It seems very inefficient to me. A simple cube would very likely be far better than this design.

      Most people don't like working in offices that receive no natural light.

    2. Re:Ring = Long Building by I'm+New+Around+Here · · Score: 4, Informative

      Well, I wonder why R&D is shuffled off to the rectangular buildings away from the glorious ring.

      Why don't they like those engineers?

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    3. Re:Ring = Long Building by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      I hate natural light. It burns skin, hurts eyes, washes out color, and makes stuff hot. Fuck outside and anyone who likes it.

    4. Re:Ring = Long Building by SternisheFan · · Score: 1

      So, if it takes 14 minutes to walk the entire ring, you're never more than a 7 minutes walk away to any other point of the ring.

    5. Re: Ring = Long Building by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Security.

      When I worked in an R&D department on prototypes it was an external bunker, too.

      Not even near the HQ. Only management, marketing, etc worked in the well visible HQ.

      No signs, flags, logo or any other type of evidence that that building belonged to the same company.

    6. Re: Ring = Long Building by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It is called design over function, I pity the commuter employee already. This follows the pattern though, remember that ridiculous yacht design Jobs planned?

    7. Re: Ring = Long Building by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Even less if you walk through the inner courtyard.

    8. Re:Ring = Long Building by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not to mention all the cancer it causes. What kind of idiot wants to be exposed to a giant exploding fireball anyway? If you're that desperate for a tan then just go stand under a mushroom cloud, morons! Let's let the plants deal with the sun while us higher beings enjoy a cozy, climate controlled environment with nice 100-watt-equivalent twisted fluorescents.

    9. Re:Ring = Long Building by the+eric+conspiracy · · Score: 1

      Right. And a cube of the same area per floor would have a maximum distance between offices on a given floor roughly 1/5 that of this foolish design.

      Not to mention the sprawl of this monstrosity. It appears from the drawing to have only 4-5 floors. By increasing the number of floors to say 20 you could also markedly reduce the average distance between offices.

      Absolutely potty (toilet bowl like) design.

    10. Re:Ring = Long Building by Jarik+C-Bol · · Score: 1

      "On a given floor"

      And there's the thing.
      This design gets everyone into 4 stories, and probably will use long ramps between floors, instead of stairs (like the Pentagon does) This means you can easily *walk* to any office, instead of spending time standing in a box being lifted up and down, or powering up or down 15 flights of stairs. And like a poster above me says, in a long straight building, the maximum distance between two offices is L, in this building it is L/2 (because the ends are connected) Couple that with being able to cut across the hub, (with California's generally decent weather, this remains a highly viable route) and your transit time starts to get pretty short. (design docs say its 14 minutes to walk the entire loop of the building, so a maximum of 7 minutes if you stay indoors to get to the office farthest from you, and much less if you cut across the hub)

      Plus, despite the 'sunlight is evil to my delicate skin' people posting here, Designers tend to really like natural light, and this torus shape allows more offices to be lit by natural light than a cube. With all the modern tech in multi-panel insulated glass (to cut down on heat) these days, the ability to light your office building with natural sunlight most working hours saves you a LOT of money on power. (which looks good on your 'environmental resumé')

      As for sprawl, they are dedicating a ton of space to parkland around and 'in' the structure, so who cares if the building is 1/3rd a mile across. I'd rather have that then a big cube surrounded by asphalt parking lot. (but that may just be me.)

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    11. Re: Ring = Long Building by icebike · · Score: 1

      It is called design over function, I pity the commuter employee already. This follows the pattern though, remember that ridiculous yacht design Jobs planned?

      Yup, the Jon Ive approach to office space.

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    12. Re:Ring = Long Building by icebike · · Score: 1

      Unless you are on the first floor and can walk across a courtyard a ring is really a long building looped so the ends connect.

      With a linear building of length L, the max distance between two offices is L. For a circular building, it is L/2.

      Which is why the GP mentioned a cube, rather than a liner building.
      Even multiple linear shorter buildings side by side with sky bridges over interior open space would
      more efficient.

      This is also why Buildings tend to grow taller, because in addition to needing less land,
      elevators are faster than walking.

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    13. Re:Ring = Long Building by war4peace · · Score: 1

      With a linear building of length L, the max distance between two offices is L. For a circular building, it is L/2.

      You sure? The maximum distance between two offices in a filled circular building is equal to its diameter (L). If it's empty inside, it's pi*L/2 - which is larger than L.

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    14. Re:Ring = Long Building by Jeremi · · Score: 1

      Unless you are on the first floor and can walk across a courtyard a ring is really a long building looped so the ends connect. It seems very inefficient to me.

      They're building it this way so they can host the Segway 500.

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    15. Re:Ring = Long Building by WaywardGeek · · Score: 1

      If you aren't willing to cross the courtyard, like when it's raining, L/2 is correct. He define L as the length of the building, which when warped into a circle is still L. If you are willing to take a shortcut through the courtyard, then it's only L/pi.

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    16. Re:Ring = Long Building by zamboni1138 · · Score: 1

      Sounds like another resident of Silo 18.

    17. Re:Ring = Long Building by the+eric+conspiracy · · Score: 1

      You are still going to need a parking lot. Presumably it will be sized for the number of occupants so the area will be the same.

      Long ramps between levels will really suck. Suppose the office you want to go to is directly above yours. Now you have to walk to where the ramp is, negotiate the ramp, and then return.

      If you are on say the 4th floor and want to cross the courtyard and go to an office on the 4th floor on the other side navigating 8 ramps would really be a PITA.

      The surface area of this design is also an issue because it affects ecological footprint. A long relatively thin cross section is the worst possible.

    18. Re:Ring = Long Building by rtb61 · · Score: 1

      However it doesn't feed ego. Really, really, want to throw huge amounts of money away, do curved buildings. It adds levels of complexity to construction and associated cost beyond anything people outside of the construction industry appreciate. Not only does it cost at lot (basically doubling or tripling construction costs) but it is enormous wasteful in internal space utilisation. With sales falling I would wonder why Apple investors would allow this Apple corporate executive ego driven indulgence.

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    19. Re:Ring = Long Building by fnj · · Score: 1

      You're both wrong. L is the linear size of the unrolled strip. If it is straight, the ends are L apart. If the same size strip is rolled in a circle, no point is farther than L/2 away from any other point in walking distance along the strip. If you walk across the courtyard, you cut L/2 to L/pi for the worst case.

    20. Re:Ring = Long Building by fnj · · Score: 1

      To reach the same fourth floor on the opposite extreme, why would you descend four floors, walk 540 meters straight, then go back up four floors? You could just walk around the perimeter on the same floor for 800 meters. The worst case around the perimeter between any two points is seven minutes walking. The mean case is three and a half minutes. Likely the median case is less than that, as the distribution of workers is presumably intelligently laid out. It's nice that you presumably have the choice, though.

      If you do have to reach a different floor, the mean case is only two floors.

      Seems to me to be an excellent tradeoff between teleportation, physical fitness, and pleasant breaks.

      Furthermore, I haven't seen any confirmation that only ramps are available between floors. As far as I can tell, that is conjecture. It seems likely to me that elevators and/or escalators will also be available.

    21. Re:Ring = Long Building by Ultracrepidarian · · Score: 1

      Right. For a bunch of nerds I'm surprised how difficult this is for some.

    22. Re:Ring = Long Building by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I wonder if the shape was chosen to maximize the number of window cubes.

    23. Re:Ring = Long Building by narcc · · Score: 1

      For a bunch of nerds I'm surprised how difficult this is for some.

      That's the average autodidact for you...

    24. Re: Ring = Long Building by Rational · · Score: 1

      I would point out that "efficiency" (even your comically naive understanding of it) isn't the only factor at play when one designs a building...

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    25. Re: Ring = Long Building by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      You mean ... going ... *gulp* outside?

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    26. Re:Ring = Long Building by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, because someone who got a "formal education" by someone telling them a lot of stuff which they unquestioningly treat as god's own truth, even if some of it actually might be wrong, is automatically so much smarter than someone who actually figured out the same things by himself.

    27. Re:Ring = Long Building by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Fascinating. How can you be so blind? If you need to do an effing mathematical calculation to find the shortest route to another office because the cost of making the wrong choice is so high, the design is fatally flawed.

    28. Re:Ring = Long Building by jbolden · · Score: 1
    29. Re:Ring = Long Building by jbengt · · Score: 1

      Why "both wrong" when you agree with one?

    30. Re:Ring = Long Building by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, Mr. Anonymous Coward, or shall we say, Mr. Alucard, we know that natural light burns your skin and hurts your eyes. We know that you like your meals fresh, hot, and in sticky liquid form. We also know that you have an aversion to garlic and wooden stakes. Why do you think we are stocking such large quantities of both beside the office windows?

    31. Re:Ring = Long Building by jbengt · · Score: 1

      While I agree that a curved building will be more expensive (I've worked on a plumbing re-design on a round building, e.g.), it won't double or triple costs, and a long, gradually curved building won't be more inefficient in space utilization than most attempts at architectural aesthetics are.

    32. Re:Ring = Long Building by rtb61 · · Score: 1

      As a building estimator contract administrator, curving buildings doubles or triples cost dependent upon how strongly you adhere to maintaining a curve rather the segmenting the structure.

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    33. Re:Ring = Long Building by Jarik+C-Bol · · Score: 1

      The math is an example, not 'required' to find a short route. And if the design is so flawed, then tell me why they've not torn down the Pentagon, and a dozen other round layout buildings like it around the world, several of which where lauded for their intelligent and functional design.

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    34. Re:Ring = Long Building by tompaulco · · Score: 1

      Inefficient is correct. Trying to utilize space that is organized in any sort of non-rectangular building is a nightmare and ends up with lots of wasted space, irregularly shaped rooms and offices, and lots of hurt feelings.
      My office moved from two floors of a square building into one large corner of a triangular building. All of the offices were smaller, some of the offices were triangle shaped. Some of them had weird little unusable alcoves in them. Despite the actual rented space being larger, and the individual offices being smaller and going from two kitchens down to one, and going from two server rooms down to one, we were immediately out of room to grow upon moving in.

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    35. Re:Ring = Long Building by tompaulco · · Score: 1

      The building is circular, so they couldn't get the cubes to fit. So they had to put the engineers in another building.
      The architect had planned some nice decorative rounded corners, but Apple sued him into oblivion.

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    36. Re:Ring = Long Building by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If the building was the shape a Moebius strip, then you could at lease utilize both sides.

    37. Re:Ring = Long Building by OrangeTide · · Score: 1

      My 3pm meeting ends at 4pm, so I'll only be 7 minutes late for my 4pm meeting. Assuming my 3pm meeting doesn't go over.

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    38. Re:Ring = Long Building by Sponge+Bath · · Score: 1

      What would the distance travelled be if employees were shot out of a trebuchet to the other side of the building?

    39. Re:Ring = Long Building by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      you cut L/2 to L/pi for the worst case.

      L/pi as the worst case makes the assumption that the person is on the first floor though. According to the picture the cafeteria is a 4 story atrium, so the building is 4 stories tall. So for the worst case you would need to have distance to stairs + 4 stories of stairs + L/pi + distance to stairs from nearest entrance + 4 stories of stairs + distance to destination. Of course elevators/stairs are probably situated near the entrances, but waiting for elevators/walking up stairs makes L/2 sound like less effort in a worse case scenario even if it still wouldn't be the most efficient path.

    40. Re:Ring = Long Building by mattack2 · · Score: 1

      You'll feel better when you get your Precious back.

    41. Re:Ring = Long Building by mattack2 · · Score: 1

      ...and that's different than now how, for abutting meetings in different locations?

    42. Re:Ring = Long Building by OrangeTide · · Score: 1

      Well if my building is a large square, I can take a diagonal hallways, so instead of pi * d, I can do sqrt(x2+y2). If my building is a cube and the elevator shafts run diagonally (which they don't, but stairwells kind of do) then it's sqrt(x2+y2+z2).

      And I'll take a sqrt over a linear distance any day of the week.

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  5. This takes the prize. by bennomatic · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Stupidest Apple-trolling article on /. ever. And considering the number of Apple trolling articles on /., that's saying something.

    Uh, gotta be funny. In Soviet Russia, Apple trolls /.!

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    1. Re:This takes the prize. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Truly there are things about Apple for which we can be critical. An office building is not one of them. It's just the passive aggressive nature of Android fanboys who can't stand that Apple rakes in the lion's share of profits in mobile.

    2. Re:This takes the prize. by bennomatic · · Score: 1

      Or possibly, it's ironic, posted by a non-Apple-hater who wants to troll Apple haters. Either way, this is stupid.

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    3. Re: This takes the prize. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How about the parent poster gets off the "Apple is perfect" unicorn.

      The article is crap , but why attack Android? Theory: Either the parent poster has a small dick, or is compensating for something else. Leave the focus on an Apple article where it belongs - Apple. In this instance it's more than fair to defend them.

      I really dislike Apple fanboys, like the parent poster.

    4. Re:This takes the prize. by polarizz · · Score: 1

      very expensive, I can't pay that

    5. Re:This takes the prize. by hey! · · Score: 2

      Truly there are things about Apple for which we can be critical. An office building is not one of them.

      Personally, I think the building is cool. I think that companies should do better than to just shove their workers into cubicle farms and expect them to be happy and productive.

      That doesn't mean that this project should be above criticism. It's more than just a building; or even an ordinary campus. It's a one-of-a-kind project. Projects like this are risky; if this doesn't work out Apple will own one giant, very expensive white elephant. What's more lavish corporate headquarters are often a sign that a company has jumped the shark -- that it's focused on ego and not on making customers happy while controlling costs.

      A friend of mine once worked for a high tech company that attempted a lavish, beautiful, eco-chic campus. As the costs spiraled, they decided to reduce the scope of the project so that only management and marketing moved into the fancy new campus. Engineering remained in their giant cubicle farm miles away. Yes, they went there. The compny spent ten years building that new headquarters, but two years after moving they were forced to sell it. They were asking 62 million, which would have been selling at a loss. They got 30.

      I don't expect Apple's new headquarters will be a disaster like that. I believe and hope it will be a great success. But people are right to be skeptical of a project like that.

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    6. Re: This takes the prize. by Rational · · Score: 1

      This project isn't above criticism, of course. On the other hand, Slashdot isn't the place for intelligent architecture criticism.

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    7. Re:This takes the prize. by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      It's more than just a building; or even an ordinary campus. It's a one-of-a-kind project.

      Wow, someone has been drinking the kool-aid. The ring design with glass walls is well tried and tested. Modern buildings tend towards large glass sides to let in as much natural light as possible, since it is now well understood that natural light is better than artificial for humans and large panes of glass have got a lot cheaper. The ring structure is extremely old and well understood as a good way to get lots of space without requiring people to walk long distances to get around. The Pentagon is an obvious US example.

      I'm sure it will be very nice, but it's not the innovative "best office evar" they make it out to be. Nothing particularly new or radical here.

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    8. Re: This takes the prize. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Nothing new. Except that you are wrong and pretty much everything is radical with this building. In particular on this scale.

      All roofs are fitted solar panel. One of the largest of the world. Enough to power a small town.
      Every single piece for the building is hand crafted. The curved glass panes are larger than anywhere else. The green:tarmac ratio is better (greener) than anywhere else.

      The form (ring) is not new. Curved glass is not new. Everything else is. In particular all the details.

      tl;dr : You oversimplify.

  6. Long Building? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Looks like a long building...which curves in itself.

  7. Looks just like Merck's HQ built in 1990 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Merck built their corporate HQ in the shape of a gigantic ring back in 1990, on something like 1,000 acre site.

    http://newyork.citybizlist.com/sites/default/files/styles/article/public/field/image/merck.jpg
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merck_headquarters

    Working inside a giant ring is such a pain in the butt - except for the fact that you cant get lost.

    They are selling the site (due to many things) but including the fact that while many people may be "assigned" to work there, it is usually pretty empty.

    1. Re:Looks just like Merck's HQ built in 1990 by I'm+New+Around+Here · · Score: 1

      I think I would hate to work in that building. Driving up to it every day and seeing all those angles and protrusions. I kinda got anxious just looking at the photo.

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    2. Re:Looks just like Merck's HQ built in 1990 by _merlin · · Score: 1

      Clever, it's shaped like a benzine ring, bringing to mind organic chemistry.

  8. Ermm... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The Pentagon ... is a building.

    1. Re:Ermm... by ebno-10db · · Score: 1

      The Pentagon ... is a building.

      You said it first. That's the first thing that came to mind when I saw it. This is the great innovation they came up with after 70 years.

    2. Re:Ermm... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The Pentagon ... is a building.

      But a pentagon only has 5 sides, while the number of sides for a circle's circumference is theoretically infinite; creating an infinite loop.

    3. Re:Ermm... by BonThomme · · Score: 1

      by your argument pi = 4.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D2xYjiL8yyE

    4. Re:Ermm... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      by your argument pi = 4.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D2xYjiL8yyE

      Isn't a circle just a polygon with an infinite amount of sides? Any finite quantity of sides, no matter how large that quantity is, makes it an incrementally sided polygon, always less than the infinite process leading to the special case for the circle. It's always getting closer to the limit in the infinite summation but never reaching the actual vaue; the limit's actual value being the relationship between the length of the circle's diameter the circle's circumfernce -- a ratio that doesn't exist between the two as a specific multiple of one to the other. The indeterminate value of that relationship is pi; 3.141529.... and not 4, as shown in the cute video.

      Perhaps also related and might be worth mentioning is that their are other special cases for the circle, such as the ellipse. This occurs when the two focal points for the ellipse are both in one and the same place, both equally equidistant to the path of the ellipse; making it instead the center of a circle. I'm going to guess that the major and minor axis of the ellipse, working together in relationship to the ellipse's path (circumference) will also be indeterminate and somehow related to pi (and not 4) regardless of the eccentricity of the ellipse. However, I digress.

  9. It's a long walk! by RNLockwood · · Score: 1

    WIth a diameter of about 1/3 of a mile a collaborator will need to walk about 1/2 mile for a face to face in the other's office on the opposite side of the ring. Good exercise but perhaps a waste of time.

    And where's the write ring?

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    1. Re:It's a long walk! by I'm+New+Around+Here · · Score: 1

      Maybe they'll group people together along the ring in such a method that that walk isn't required.

      Or have a monorail on the third floor.

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    2. Re:It's a long walk! by Trepidity · · Score: 0

      Architects in the early 20th century came up with an interesting solution to this: use a third dimension, and install elevators. Now you can walk horizontally in two dimensions, and travel up/down, bringing a large company's employees all within relatively short distances of each other.

    3. Re:It's a long walk! by techno-vampire · · Score: 1

      Not unless the hub is closed off. If it's possible to go through the central section, the most you'd have to walk in that case is 1/3 of a mile. And, that's only if both of the offices are on the outer wall of the building.

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    4. Re:It's a long walk! by RNLockwood · · Score: 1

      >>
      Architects in the early 20th century came up with an interesting solution to this: use a third dimension, and install elevators. Now you can walk horizontally in two dimensions, and travel up/down, bringing a large company's employees all within relatively short distances of each other.

      That crossed my mind but it's not as cool as Jobs' solution. On the other hand, not being a genius innovator, I think I'd like my office to be on the opposite side of the ring from the CEO's.

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    5. Re:It's a long walk! by gmhowell · · Score: 4, Funny

      No glass walls. No diagonal travel. Fewer buttons than a Wonkavator. Lame.

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    6. Re:It's a long walk! by russotto · · Score: 1

      Architects in the early 20th century came up with an interesting solution to this: use a third dimension, and install elevators. Now you can walk horizontally in two dimensions, and travel up/down, bringing a large company's employees all within relatively short distances of each other.

      Yes, but then in the 1930s, the Port of New York Authority built their Inland Terminal #1, 15 complete floors, many banks of elevators, and a complex three-dimensional maze-solving problem required to get from one place to another. All large multi-story buildings built ever since have included this feature, for reasons only the cabal of building engineers know. Apple, in an typically minimalist attempt to break this pattern, has decided to reduce the building to one dimension.

      Anyway, Apple's building resembles a tape about as much as any toroidal object does. The proportions are all wrong. It's actually more like an Aerobie. Besides, there's already a Silicon Valley building meant to look like a storage device -- Oracle HQ. Apple wouldn't want to be accused of copying them, Ellison would keep them tied up in court forever just for lulz.

    7. Re:It's a long walk! by FatLittleMonkey · · Score: 1

      You'd think so, but in reality there's greater isolation between floors than mere distance. If the land is cheap enough, always go horizontal.

      I'd be willing to bet that Apple employees will treat travel to areas directly above/below them as if it were "further" than walking half way around the ring on their own floor.

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    8. Re:It's a long walk! by Trepidity · · Score: 1

      I've worked in skyscrapers and haven't really found that to be true. Especially within your bank of floors, e.g. if your department is floors 15-20, people treat it as pretty local.

    9. Re:It's a long walk! by tyrione · · Score: 1

      WIth a diameter of about 1/3 of a mile a collaborator will need to walk about 1/2 mile for a face to face in the other's office on the opposite side of the ring. Good exercise but perhaps a waste of time.

      And where's the write ring?

      Collaboration isn't spread across buildings in Infinite Loop. Each section will be specifically designed to provide for a collaborative work flow. You don't put some Engineering here, some design there, etc.

    10. Re:It's a long walk! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If it's possible to go through the central section, the most you'd have to walk in that case is 1/3 of a mile.

      I read in another article that there will be two levels of underground parking lots under the ring. So if it's raining, I guess you could go down into a parking lot, and walk from one side of the ring directly to the other side.

    11. Re:It's a long walk! by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      You'd think so, but in reality there's greater isolation between floors than mere distance. If the land is cheap enough, always go horizontal.

      What are you doing, training long distance runners?

    12. Re:It's a long walk! by FatLittleMonkey · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I've worked in skyscrapers

      Then you didn't have a choice but to work vertically. But I've seen it in campuses with long 4-5 story buildings. People looking for an empty meeting-room will go to the other end of the building before they go one floor up. They'll swap offices on the same floor without a thought, but will announce changing floors like they are going to work in a different building, or even for a different company. They'll walk down the length of the building on a whim to see if someone's in their office, but will ring upstairs first to check first to avoid a "wasted trip". Totally different psychology.

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    13. Re:It's a long walk! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ironically, that's the feeling you get when you have to change floors. Think about it;

      If you have to change floor, this means going to the staircase, unless you fancy wasting time standing still and waiting for an elevator. Waiting for an elevator is frustrating, and sometimes downright futile. Taking the stairs, while being more reliable and frequently faster, is more exerting both physically and mentally than walking straight ahead. You can think on more important things on the move in a horizontal transit, it has an uninterrupted flow, as opposed to vertical transit which causes a lot of cognitive interrupts where you have to actually think about what you're doing (elevators, stairs).

      Also you frequently have to double back again in the same direction you came from although on a different floor. This makes vertical travel very inefficient unless the place you want to go to is pretty far away. Worst case would obviously be if you want to reach the person right above or below you in the vertical space. That would be a half a mile walk in any reasonably large size building. Not only does it take time, it's a psychological downer, you're just walking a lot to come back to basically the same spot, as opposed to horizontal travel, where you're going somewhere.

    14. Re:It's a long walk! by DNS-and-BIND · · Score: 1

      It's because waiting for the elevator takes *forever* and really disrupts you. It also feels like a waste waiting on an elevator for minutes at a time just to go up one floor.

      Take the stairs, you say? Sorry, those are one-way doors. After you enter the stairwell, the door locks behind you. You can't entery any other floor. The only way out is on the first floor where an alarm will ring.

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    15. Re: It's a long walk! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Larry Ellison was Steve's best friend. He was even a director at Apple for 5 years (97-02). Oracle would never sue Apple. And vice versa. They are strong and close allies. When Apple was close to bankruptcy (3 month away), Larry considered to buy Apple to save them. Luckily it wasn't necessary.

    16. Re:It's a long walk! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And that's a problem with policy. Not the stairs.

    17. Re:It's a long walk! by Trepidity · · Score: 1

      Man, you people must work in some weird-ass buildings. When I want to see someone above or below me, I just take the nearest stairs up. Sure, there is only one central elevator bank, but there are 5 flights of stairs (one in each corner of the building and one in the middle, near the elevators). Takes not even two minutes.

    18. Re:It's a long walk! by Trepidity · · Score: 1

      I haven't worked anywhere that locks the stairs. Not only do I regularly take the stairs, but there are five stairwells (one in each corner and one in the middle), so I can take whichever one's closest.

    19. Re:It's a long walk! by FatLittleMonkey · · Score: 1

      More common in multi-company buildings, I think. I've only seen it once. It's a pain (and embarrassing the first time you encounter it. I prefer to use stairs to go down floors [never up, fat-boy don't climb] since it's almost always faster than the elevators.)

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    20. Re: It's a long walk! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oracle would never sue Apple. And vice versa. They are strong and close allies.

      Larry and Steve were best buds, but that doesn't mean Oracle and Apple are therefore close allies today. Or even allies at all. Oracle's attempts at breaking out of enterprise software failed long ago, so their markets and products don't overlap at all. There isn't even any segment of Apple's market which complements something Oracle is doing, or vice versa. Real corporate alliances involve some kind of collaboration; Apple and Oracle collaborate on next to nothing.

      If anything, it's going the opposite direction. Apple had a long tradition of bundling a good Apple-customized Java implementation with OS X, but in the post-Oracle era, they have unbundled Java and made maintenance of Java on OS X almost entirely Oracle's responsibility. Another Sun technology which Apple was interested in prior to the Oracle acquisition was ZFS -- Apple famously canceled their in-progress port due to concerns about licensing etc. under Oracle's ownership.

      Even while Steve was alive, all the way back in the 1990s he toyed with and then decided against direct collaboration with Ellison/Oracle, choosing to release a competing Apple product instead:

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mac_NC

  10. Wait for the Inevitable by craigminah · · Score: 1

    How long until Samsung and Microsoft both announce their plans to build similar circular "spaceship-like" HQs?

    1. Re:Wait for the Inevitable by ATMAvatar · · Score: 1

      Never. They only take the good ideas. They innovate on their own for the bad ones.

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    2. Re:Wait for the Inevitable by craigminah · · Score: 1

      Touche, this is a lot of money simply for a "cool" office.

    3. Re:Wait for the Inevitable by FatLittleMonkey · · Score: 5, Informative

      Samsung: Korean HQ

      Gates Foundation: Seattle HQ

      Microsoft:Redmond Campus

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  11. so-called by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That does not mean what you think it means.

  12. What the building really is ... by Misagon · · Score: 1

    Now that Steve Jobs is gone, Apple need another Reality Distortion Field Generator. Why not think big? ...

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    1. Re:What the building really is ... by joe_frisch · · Score: 1

      Its a synchrotron light source. Compare with pictures of APS, SPring8 and ESRF.

    2. Re:What the building really is ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yup, that is sure what it looks like.
      Now why would Apple want its own Light Source?
      Why, to manufacture chips themselves, of course. Not the next generation of chips. The generation after that.
      They'll also want a bunch of smaller accelerators for Heavy Ion implantation, near each end-station.
      All this will be underground, the building above will just be a useful occupation of otherwise wasted land.

  13. DECtape by Mr.+Protocol · · Score: 1

    Actually, it looks more like a DECtape.

  14. Ahhh, the theodp nonsequitur returns! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    n/t

  15. Who does Apple think it is? by __aasehi2499 · · Score: 1

    They make phones. They act like they are the DoD.

  16. Re:Doomed by binarylarry · · Score: 1

    If Apple hardware is mediocre, what is high end hardware?

    (Note: I am a Linux fanboy and generally avoid Mac HW due to it's poor Linux support)

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  17. Easy Target from orbit. by Greg01851 · · Score: 1

    all in the subject...

  18. At the Church of Apple by MrKaos · · Score: 2

    This is the Vatican.

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    1. Re:At the Church of Apple by ebno-10db · · Score: 2

      I'll take the one in Rome - much better artwork.

    2. Re: At the Church of Apple by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But the one in Rome is infested with batshit crazy brainwashed doomsday cult members obsessed with sex they do nothing know about.

    3. Re: At the Church of Apple by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      As opposed to the batshit crazy brainwashed doomsday cult members obsessed with iToys they do nothing know about?

    4. Re: At the Church of Apple by gmhowell · · Score: 2

      But the one in Rome is infested with batshit crazy brainwashed doomsday cult members obsessed with sex they do nothing know about.

      I thought you were going to explain why it's not like Apple?

      (Sent from my iPhone or MacBook or MacMini.)

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    5. Re:At the Church of Apple by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      product worship YOU!

  19. Minimizes window space by Tough+Love · · Score: 1

    The only way to get even less window space in relation to interior volume would be to design it as a sphere. Even a borg cube would have more windows.

    May I suggest a modest design improvement: dig a canal to the bay and moor Steve Job's equally iconic and ugly yacht right in the center of the frisbee ring. The point is so nobody forgets him, right?

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    1. Re:Minimizes window space by fnj · · Score: 1

      Actually the converse is true. It pretty much maximizes window space. A sphere has the LEAST surface area for a given volume, followed by a cube. This has much MORE surface area for a given volume.

  20. Shareholders silent as usual? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Any of Apple's shareholders daring to ask exactly why $5 billion of their money is being spent on building an egotrip for the executives, rather than being returned into their pockets? $5 billion seems to be rather excessive, to house 12,000 people. Oh well, at least the taxpayer is suffering too, since you can guarantee that the building will be constructed and owned by their Cayman Islands subsidiary, with Apple Inc paying exorbitant rent every month.

    1. Re:Shareholders silent as usual? by ebno-10db · · Score: 1

      This is what companies do when they have too much cash. How much is this building per square foot?

    2. Re: Shareholders silent as usual? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Believe it or not. But the CEO, approved by the board, is running the company. Not a stock holder.

      The board decides how much money is (or if) is returned to the share holder. No one else.

      Don't like it? Sell your shares.

    3. Re:Shareholders silent as usual? by CBM · · Score: 1

      According to Businessweek (http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2013-04-04/apples-campus-2-shapes-up-as-an-investor-relations-nightmare) the cost is $1500 per square foot, or about 3 times the cost of luxury downtown skyscraper space.

    4. Re: Shareholders silent as usual? by CBM · · Score: 1

      Not totally true. Shareholders can elect a new board.

    5. Re: Shareholders silent as usual? by BonThomme · · Score: 1

      of course they can. it says so right here on the label.

  21. Not the first HQ to be a ring by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    https://maps.google.co.uk/maps?q=W12+7RJ -- BBC did something similar

  22. The Ring... by Longjmp · · Score: 4, Funny

    I can't believe no one came up with this yet:

    One ring to rule them all...

    ;-)

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    1. Re:The Ring... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Funny

      ...and in California, to tax them!

    2. Re: The Ring... by binarylarry · · Score: 1

      First you see the Ring and then you die.

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    3. Re:The Ring... by wbr1 · · Score: 1

      I was thinking the same thing.. lets do the whole poem.

      Three Rings for tech CEOs seeking the prize
      Seven for the Congress-men sucking Apple's Bone
      Nine for the hipster kids, doomed to sigh
      One for the Steve Jobs in his dark home
      In the land of Cupertino where the IOS lie
      An iPod to snare them all, an iPhone to find them
      An iPad to daze them all and in the shininess bind them
      In the land of Cupertino where the IOS lie

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    4. Re:The Ring... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ...and in the darkness bind them.

  23. Jesus fucking christ. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm sorry, but that tape reel comment is one of the lamest fucking things I've ever read on Slashdot. I don't even know if this is an attempt at trolling or just some idiot user who thinks he's being clever (hurr hurr). About a week ago I was handling a set of reels almost exactly like this (you'd be surprised at what tech banks will hold onto) and I can't even see the resemblance.

    So here's to you, you little dipshit theodp. Enjoy your "lamest attempt at trolling or saying something clever" award. Please don't ever post here again.

  24. And BOY have they patented it... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Wait... let me have a look... it's round, a bit like a disc, but with a hole in the middle... It looks a bit like a WHEEL.

  25. C'mon, Can't You See a Certain Resemblance? by theodp · · Score: 1

    Comparison: $5B Planned Apple HQ and Old-School Magnetic Tape Reel. Would look even more similar with a white write ring! :-)

  26. Re: Spend that on a manufacturing facility.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Since when is a ring phallic?

    Most idiotic comment of the month. Congrats for your hate filled fail.

    Fuck off.

  27. Why not move to Texas while you're at it? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    After all, California is bad for business, while Apple would fit in wonderfully with the Texas Can-do attitude.

    1. Re:Why not move to Texas while you're at it? by gmhowell · · Score: 1

      Texas has too many fags.

      You're right; staying adjacent to San Francisco should help them avoid the queers. /facepalm

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  28. If there's a fire by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If there's a fire and you have to evacuate the building, is it safe to run into the center?

  29. is that.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    r&d outsourced to india or to google in mountain view?

  30. Looks just like Spy Central UK (GCHQ) by weeble · · Score: 4, Informative

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Government_Communications_Headquarters

    All all glass building with lots of computers and the terminals with the world's secrets flashing across. An interesting concept.

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    1. Re:Looks just like Spy Central UK (GCHQ) by clarkkent09 · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Except that GCHQ cost £337 million. Is the Apple building really expected to cost $5B? It is not mentioned anywhere in TFA. Seems excessive even for Bay Area , where fixing up half a bridge costs $6.3 billion.

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    2. Re:Looks just like Spy Central UK (GCHQ) by Rich0 · · Score: 1

      Looks like Merck as well.

      In fact, Merck is trying to sell the place (stock not doing quite as well as AAPL). I'm sure Apple could clean up the place for considerably less than $5B.

    3. Re:Looks just like Spy Central UK (GCHQ) by Plumpaquatsch · · Score: 1

      Except that GCHQ cost £337 million. Is the Apple building really expected to cost $5B? It is not mentioned anywhere in TFA.

      Well, you could almost fit two of those inside the inner yard of the Apple building.

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    4. Re:Looks just like Spy Central UK (GCHQ) by spage · · Score: 1

      GCHQ designed by Gensler is 1.1M square feet for 4,600 staff. Apple is 2.8M square feet for 14,200.

      Foster and Partners are a fantastic firm, their buildings are reliably masterpieces of design and engineering, and Sir Norman is arguably the greatest living architect, but they don't come cheap. The insanely great HSBC building was the most expensive building in the world in 1985.

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  31. A Never Ending Trip by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Irregardless, a perestrian monorail would be kind of cool &mdash making it a möbius strip would be better.

    1. Re:A Never Ending Trip by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Looks like your — needed a semicolon.

  32. What kind of a critique is that? by Art3x · · Score: 5, Insightful

    doesn't look all that different from an old-school $3.95 6250 BPI magnetic tape reel

    Or a ring, bracelet, flying saucer, hoola hoop, donut, or a million other things that are round. What is your point?

    1. Re:What kind of a critique is that? by maccodemonkey · · Score: 3, Informative

      doesn't look all that different from an old-school $3.95 6250 BPI magnetic tape reel

      Or a ring, bracelet, flying saucer, hoola hoop, donut, or a million other things that are round. What is your point?

      News flash! Round things look like other round things! How could Apple not have seen this coming!?!?

    2. Re:What kind of a critique is that? by BonThomme · · Score: 1

      A means and a system of rounding the corners of a building...

  33. More Apple innovation... by Patent+Lover · · Score: 1, Redundant

    They took the Pentagon and rounded the corners. Apple is good at the rounded corners thing.

    1. Re:More Apple innovation... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Betcha there won't be any screws in it either. That would compromise the purity of the design.

  34. Apple sacrifices functionality for looks... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Apple sacrifices functionality for looks. That is NOT innovation. Anybody can remove functionality from products for basic operational features, and make the result look nicer. Cases in point: No button mice and track pads. Minimal keyboards. No SSD or USB card slots on portable devices.
    Whaa, the mouse has two buttons! That will be too hard for users! We must make a device that Steven Hawking can use, not guitar players!
    Whaa, the RIAA/MPAA doesn't want file copying to happen. We MUST NOT ADD copying 'enabling' devices to our units!
    Whaa, PC keyboards have too many damn keys! And they are too fat! We must make crappy square 'chicklet' keyboards for kids!

    1. Re:Apple sacrifices functionality for looks... by Gavagai80 · · Score: 1

      They made a mouse with no buttons? Do you bang it on the table to click?

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    2. Re:Apple sacrifices functionality for looks... by MacTO · · Score: 1

      Usually people make quips about Apple's "no button mouse" as a joke, because of Apple's history of one button mice. The physical button is still there, and provides the expected tactile feedback. Apple's mice and trackpads also provide support for buttons, scrolling, and other operations via gestures. It's not ideal for people who expect tactile feedback, but it does work well.

      While their chicklet keyboards are no Model M, they also perform as well as traditional laptop keyboards and most modern desktop keyboards. Your point about missing keys is a valid one, though I suspect that most people don't even notice it.

      So what's your point again?

    3. Re:Apple sacrifices functionality for looks... by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      Nah, it generates the events itself. It knows when you want to click better than you do.

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  35. Who else thinks it'd be fun to sneak onto the roof by tlambert · · Score: 1

    Who else thinks it'd be fun to sneak onto the roof ... and paint the roof like a giant Stargate?

  36. Our economic overlords by PopeRatzo · · Score: 2

    I have to wonder about a company who has lost 30% of it's stock price in the last year building a $5B headquarters.

    I mean, I'm grateful to AAPL, since it put my daughter through college, but I gotta say, I'm glad I got out at $680.

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    1. Re:Our economic overlords by Jeremi · · Score: 2

      I have to wonder about a company who has lost 30% of it's stock price in the last year building a $5B headquarters.

      When you're sitting on $147 billion in cash, $5 billion for new headquarters is quite affordable... whether or not it's the best possible use of that money, I don't know, but it's definitely not going to bankrupt Apple.

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    2. Re:Our economic overlords by PopeRatzo · · Score: 1

      When you're sitting on $147 billion [bgr.com] in cash, $5 billion for new headquarters is quite affordable... whether or not it's the best possible use of that money, I don't know, but it's definitely not going to bankrupt Apple.

      It's not a question of bankrupting Apple, it's a question of the kind of decisions the CEO and CFO and the board are making. The people who own the company (shareholders) have to decide whether or not those decisions make sense.

      Apple paid a dividend this year in an effort to put a floor under their share price. That's something they never had to do before. When your stock is in that rarified $500 range, there's a lot of space to fall.

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    3. Re:Our economic overlords by Megane · · Score: 1

      As I understand it (from when I first saw stuff about this new building like two years or so ago), Apple has been perpetually bursting at the seams when it comes to office space and really needs it. Many companies in the past have put up some grand building and that marked the start of their downfall, but those companies didn't need the office space when they did it.

      And Apple is sitting on a boatload of cash, so it's not like they can't afford it.

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    4. Re:Our economic overlords by jbolden · · Score: 1

      Or you could look at it as a company whose stock is up 5000% in the last decade building a new headquarters.

    5. Re:Our economic overlords by PopeRatzo · · Score: 1

      Or you could look at it as a company whose stock is up 5000% in the last decade building a new headquarters.

      In a financial world that sees a single fiscal quarter as a lifetime, I don't think so.

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    6. Re:Our economic overlords by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      At it's peak, Novell in the late 90's was sitting on a HUGE cash reserve. If I recall correctly, in the 50 billion range.

    7. Re:Our economic overlords by Plumpaquatsch · · Score: 1

      Or you could look at it as a company whose stock is up 5000% in the last decade building a new headquarters.

      In a financial world that sees a single fiscal quarter as a lifetime, I don't think so.

      AAPL is up 20% over the last quarter.

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    8. Re:Our economic overlords by PopeRatzo · · Score: 1

      AAPL is up 20% over the last quarter.

      OK, there's a big misconception people have about stock prices and percentage gain and loss. If your stock loses 20% of it's price today but gains 20% tomorrow, you have NOT gotten back your losses. You're still behind.

      Have some perspective in this chart of Apple stock since it's all-time high a year ago:

      http://finance.yahoo.com/echarts?s=AAPL+Interactive#symbol=aapl;range=20120924,20130923;compare=;indicator=volume;charttype=area;crosshair=on;ohlcvalues=0;logscale=off;source=undefined;

      So, while it's true that AAPL has seen an increase of 20% in the past quarter, they're not even halfway back to where they were last September. If you bought AAPL when it was $700 (and a lot of people did because they were predicting AAPL at $1000), today you are one very sad panda because more than 1/3 of your wealth has disappeared. You would need to see a 50% gain just to get back to where you started, and nobody wants to hold a stock for a year just to end up where they started.

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    9. Re:Our economic overlords by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Bad luck. And people who bought in 2009 for cheap ass 80 bucks have a five-fold profit.

      News flash : the stock market does not promise or guarantees profits. You win, you loose.

      News flash 2 : people often hold stock for longer than a year. Except they are Gordon Gecko.

      You can't make a quick buck. Too bad. I feel almost sorry for you.

    10. Re:Our economic overlords by PopeRatzo · · Score: 1

      News flash 2 : people often hold stock for longer than a year. Except they are Gordon Gecko.

      Did you know that the average share of stock in the Market is held for 22 seconds?

      http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/personalfinance/investing/9021946/How-long-does-the-average-share-holding-last-Just-22-seconds.html

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    11. Re:Our economic overlords by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They also don't have enough good ideas to invest their bundles of cash in, so giving some of their excess back to their shareholders is the appropriate thing to do with the money so their shareholders can use it for their own investments.

    12. Re:Our economic overlords by Plumpaquatsch · · Score: 1

      Make up your fucking mind, popey. You insisted on quarter performance. Stop moving those goalposts.

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    13. Re:Our economic overlords by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I have to wonder about a trollish slashtard who thinks that a building project begun over two years ago is suddenly bad just because there's been a recent downturn in the stock price. What's the threshold of goodness, Ratzo? Would it be a good idea at -25%? 0%? 5%? And over what time window? Must the stock price grow monotonically throughout the entire duration of a multiyear building project before you will deign to give it your approval? Should companies instantly cancel any forward thinking investments every time Wall Street blinks? Is that what you really want?

      Apple's decision to build is justified (or not) based on how much Apple will actually benefit from it. There are easily imagined scenarios where it would be a bad reinvestment of their profits even if their stock price was up 100%, and equally easily imagined scenarios where it would be a good reinvestment if they'd lost 50% of their stock price instead. Clucking your tongue about spending money while the stock is down tells us nothing but that you are a shallow-minded fool obsessed with the next quarter, like so many other people who swallow the dominant Wall Street blowhard culture.

  37. Its like Main Street in Pleasantville. by penglust · · Score: 1

    Sally you mean there is something outside of Apple?

  38. Pentagon by mschaffer · · Score: 1

    Typical Apple. They are re-inventing the Pentagon (the DOD headquarters).
    Maybe they should have several headquarters---in different colors.

    1. Re:Pentagon by cold+fjord · · Score: 4, Informative

      The Pentagon? No, but you're thinking is the right general direction: Another agency did it first.

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  39. Walled Garden by mschaffer · · Score: 1

    It's obviously Steve Job's Walled Garden!

  40. Conveyance by Dereck1701 · · Score: 1

    Without some kind of conveyance system this building is going to be next to useless. Either some kind of shuttle or miniature rail system, maybe even those horizontal escalators they have in airports would do the job. But no one is going to work in a building where you have to walk several miles every day. And whats with all of the soft focus renderings? Was the software they were using so bad that they had to blur every single image to make them look less crappy?

    1. Re:Conveyance by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is why everyone in America is so fucking fat, no one wants to walk anywhere. Walking a few miles during the course of a days work won't kill you.

      Yes, I realise not all Americans are fat lazy bastards, but that attitude is part of the reason there are so many of them in the USA. And realistically, unless the people allocating office spaces at Apple are idiots, they will put people who need to collaborate near each other and not on opposite sides of the building.

  41. sure its not over 4 stories by viperidaenz · · Score: 1

    but you still need to walk up to half a mile to get somewhere, and there is no elevator option.

    I'd rather spend 2 minutes waiting for a lift to go up 10 floors than walk for 7 minutes to go see someone.

    1. Re:sure its not over 4 stories by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      That is why you're a fat slob who will be dead before 60. Keeping your employees in good physical health seems like a good thing to me. There you go making me defend Apple policy. I feel dirty now.

    2. Re:sure its not over 4 stories by fnj · · Score: 1

      there is no elevator option

      How do you know that?

    3. Re:sure its not over 4 stories by viperidaenz · · Score: 1

      Because elevators go up and down, not round and round.. No mention of a mile long moving walkway either.

    4. Re:sure its not over 4 stories by Megane · · Score: 1

      If only there was some way you could go horizontally without investing in crazy building-wide single-point-of-failure infrastructure like a mile-long moving walkway.

      It's also not like this is the world's first long building. The USAA building in San Antonio is one of the longest buildings in the world. I hear that new employees get a guide assigned to them for their first week so that they don't get lost in the twisty maze of hallways that all look alike.

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    5. Re:sure its not over 4 stories by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Only first you have to go to the elevator, and then wait two minutes for it, and then go from the elevator to your destination. Wanna bet whether it all in all takes at least 7 minutes or more, even if the elevators are working as advertized?

    6. Re:sure its not over 4 stories by viperidaenz · · Score: 1

      Apparently that building is 2000 feet long. a little over 1/3rd of a mile. It's a half mile walk from one side of the new Apple building to the other.

  42. Time to sell off thier stock? by xtronics · · Score: 1

    Seems quite problematic. if a company is now building a $5B edifice to the egos of the bosses - is that going to make a good investment into the future? I don't think so.

    The real world is full of people waiting for Apple to make a misstep - there is plenty of office space available at reasonable rates.

    1. Re: Time to sell off thier stock? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's why FaceBook is building FaceBook town, Google is maze of rectangular building, etc, etc.

      News flash : office space != office space. Why in hell should a company like Apple settle for mediocre if not shitty office space that doesn't met their requirements? They already have that right now (they are spreader throughout Cupertino). That is the very reason they build the spaceship. To have BETTER office space.

      Armchair CEOs in tech forums. You gotta love .... emmm... ridicule them.

  43. Just a Circle and the iPhone is just a rectangle. by JacobLeclerc · · Score: 0

    Way to simplify a incredibly complex complex. :)

  44. FBI recuits the mentally ill for fake bomb plot .. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "A man with a history of mental illness has pleaded guilty in connection with a thwarted plot to start a civil war by detonating what he thought was a car bomb outside an Oakland bank - but was actually a phony weapon provided by an undercover agent." ref

  45. It should be called "Apple Walled Village" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The Chinese "invented" something similar back in 17th century. They even aptly named it as the "walled village"

    http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c0/HakkaYongding.jpg/200px-HakkaYongding.jpg

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hakka_walled_village

    1. Re:It should be called "Apple Walled Village" by Applehu+Akbar · · Score: 1

      But if Mongols attacked this one, no problem - just revoke their H-1Bs. (Bada...ling!)

  46. Re:Who else thinks it'd be fun to sneak onto the r by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Who else thinks it'd be fun to sneak onto the roof ... and paint the roof like a giant Stargate?

    How about Apple itself installing an array of programmable LEDs, either showing the Stargate or the 12 signs of the zodiac indicating the position of the Earth on each day of the year. If that's a bit obscure for their tastes, a little more practical, a giant clock. Personally, anything that would improve the targetability of SillyCon Valley to be nuked from space, has my vote.

  47. Overhead Shot by theodp · · Score: 1

    Overhead Shot: $5B Planned Apple HQ and Old-School Magnetic Tape Reel. Less tape would increase the resemblance!

  48. Imagine a Beowulf cluster of 5 of these... by Applehu+Akbar · · Score: 1

    IOC headquarters!

  49. Dubai towers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hopefully this isn't Silicon Valley's version of the Burj Khalifa. This can go two ways of course. It could be an icon for the next century, or a failure. Yeah, consider myself trolled but I'm leaning towards failure. If circular buildings were better, why aren't there more of them? It's not like it wasn't possible a long time ago. OK, a teepee is conical but there's a practical reason for that. Many other primitive structures are round but office buildings? Generally not. Of course particle accelerators are round and ginormous; but there's an obvious reason for that.

    I can see this going on the market cheap if Apple goes bust. It reminds me of dome homes. Sometimes you can pick up dome homes for less than regular ones because of the maintenance and space issues. A dome is easy to build; but harder to maintain. Roofers either aren't used to it, and will charge more. Siding, drywall patching, plumbing.. all just a little bit unusual for the contractors.

    This Apple building... it's not like there are no other buildings with curved surfaces; but it's not cheap. Oracle has its famous six-pack, so there's some precedent. Of course... GM's HQ had curves too. Oops. It's not that there are no architects and contractors who worked with curved office buildings... it's just that there are fewer of them and they probably charge more. Well, that's true to the Apple way, isn't it?

  50. This is Apple we're talking about by ArcadeMan · · Score: 1

    This building is not a circle, it's an infinigon.

  51. Wrong company; Borg == Microsoft by fnj · · Score: 1

    Your shitty borg cube doesn't have any natural light except the few outside spaces. If you had any imagination, you would have specified a hemisphere, or even a sphere with one half of it underground. Or bury the whole sphere a la the Umbrella bunker under Raccoon City. Then it wouldn't take up ANY land area.

    A sphere is the smallest possible envelope, with the least surface area, for any given volume.

    But the Apple design is far superior esthetically, much more realistic to construct, and still extremely ergonomic. How many large cube or sphere buildings do you know of?

    1. Re:Wrong company; Borg == Microsoft by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      At least one.

    2. Re: Wrong company; Borg == Microsoft by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's not an office building. It's hollow and an arena for sport and music events.

      Try again.

    3. Re: Wrong company; Borg == Microsoft by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Stop trying to moving the goalposts, or learn how to read.

      The question was "How many large cube or sphere buildings do you know of?"

      Wanna try again?

  52. It's still in Cupertino by Animats · · Score: 2

    Building that in Cupertino is a good thing for the city. It's a blah suburb.

    Now here's a prestige research center - IBM Alamaden Research Center. That place produced several Nobel Prizes. It's on an isolated mountaintop. You drive for a mile after entering the property before reaching the buildings. The view from the cafeteria is of mountains, with no other buildings in sight.

    It's also half-empty since IBM cut back.

    1. Re:It's still in Cupertino by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Building that in Cupertino is a good thing for the city. It's a blah suburb.

      Now here's a prestige research center - IBM Alamaden Research Center. That place produced several Nobel Prizes. It's on an isolated mountaintop. You drive for a mile after entering the property before reaching the buildings. The view from the cafeteria is of mountains, with no other buildings in sight.

      It's also half-empty since IBM cut back.

      I don't understand why they're building it in Cupertino. Seems to me they could save $3B-$4B if they built it where property values weren't crazy... I bet they could build this in Florida or Texas or $1.5B. What does it matter where it is?

    2. Re:It's still in Cupertino by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't understand why they're building it in Cupertino. Seems to me they could save $3B-$4B if they built it where property values weren't crazy... I bet they could build this in Florida or Texas or $1.5B. What does it matter where it is?

      Um, because it makes logistics a hell of a lot easier to move everyone down the street than to relocate everyone across the country or hire an entirely new staff.

    3. Re:It's still in Cupertino by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't understand why they're building it in Cupertino. Seems to me they could save $3B-$4B if they built it where property values weren't crazy... I bet they could build this in Florida or Texas or $1.5B. What does it matter where it is?

      Um, because it makes logistics a hell of a lot easier to move everyone down the street than to relocate everyone across the country or hire an entirely new staff.

      I disagree... $5B and moving down the street is not any easier than $1.5B and moving across the country. I'd say it is significantly more difficult. Apple could build outside Austin, TX for $1.5B (or less) and give 11,000 employees a $318,000 bonus/moving incentive, or 14,000 employees each $250,000 bonus/moving incentive. Insane property values make no sense. Its just burning money. There's nothing special about Cupertino.

    4. Re:It's still in Cupertino by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So what? There's nothing special about Austin, TX. They could save even more money by just moving to Mississippi and give even bigger moving incentives! What does it matter where it is??

      You now see why that's a stupid argument? Austin is cool but it's still Texas. I know it's utterly shocking to Texan ego but not everybody wants to live there!

    5. Re:It's still in Cupertino by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Money is money. Austin is a high tech hub, with massive areas of empty space and property values between 1/5th and 1/10th that of the extremely crowded and overpriced SF Bay area. There is similar property around Orlando, FL. What matters is that the same facility can be built for BILLIONS OF DOLLARS LESS. Cost matters, and no matter what the market says the property values are worth in N. California, it doesn't make any sense... is there gold in the dirt? No. Its just a place with skyrocketing costs. There's an obvious difference anyone with even a below average IQ can comprehend.

  53. same we invented someone else's thing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Really, the ring looks like a familiar old structure: the Pentagon.

    Just that construction techniques now allow curved walls compared to 50yrs ago.

    1. Re:same we invented someone else's thing by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      Curved walls have been possible since forever.

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  54. Looks rather like by maroberts · · Score: 1

    ...a bigger(?) version of GCHQ in England....

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  55. Re: Spend that on a manufacturing facility.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    When it's the ring on your dad's boyfriend's flaccid cock?

    PS: It's flaccid cuz your dad doesn't wash his asshole

  56. I don't care if it looks like a tape reel by ihtoit · · Score: 1

    what this is, is an epiphany in building design. Squares are unnatural, and so are enclosed office spaces. Most people don't work well in isolation, which is why prisons exist - to isolate you. If this design is a: open plan (not even bullpens, thank you) and b: open to let in as much natural light as is humanly possible, then I for one would not only reconsider my career direction to work in such a place, I would willingly relocate to do so. I've tried to work under fluorescents, it made me ill. Give me a window next to my workstation or we're not having a conversation.

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    1. Re:I don't care if it looks like a tape reel by Megane · · Score: 1

      I would willingly relocate to do so

      For me, the deal-breaker is that it's in the People's Republic of California. It's a nice place, but I want no part of their state government. If they were to move to Austin, I'd be all over that.

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    2. Re:I don't care if it looks like a tape reel by Rich0 · · Score: 1

      If they wanted a ring they could just buy Merck's headquarters - they're trying to sell it, actually. Granted, North Jersey isn't all that much better than California, but traffic-wise it has to be at least a moderate improvement.

    3. Re:I don't care if it looks like a tape reel by Rising+Ape · · Score: 1

      If this design is a: open plan

      Open plan has its problems too. My office is open plan, and I'm often badly distracted from work by colleagues' conversations, phone calls etc. The biggest problem is when doing mathematics (e.g. calculus based derivations), in which case there's often no option but to leave and find an empty meeting room. But even less mind-intense work is less efficient with all that background noise.

    4. Re:I don't care if it looks like a tape reel by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Texas sucks.

      Except Wendy Davis

    5. Re:I don't care if it looks like a tape reel by ihtoit · · Score: 1

      that's what headphones are for.

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  57. iUFO by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    next product

  58. It's for Jobs! by orlanz · · Score: 1

    People don't get it. It's the end of a really long barrel. They are going to use it to shotgun Steve's ashes into space.

  59. Re: Spend that on a manufacturing facility.. by MysteriousPreacher · · Score: 1

    I'm no doctor, but if you are a man and consider a ring to be phallic, then something is wrong. Better to get this checked now than to wait. Trust me - a friend worked the STD clinic when studying and he saw the consequences if men who wait until shit is the size of a grapefruit before getting it checked out.

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  60. Summary of summary by Plumpaquatsch · · Score: 1

    Silly Apple: Spending $5 billion on a building, when they could have bought a tape real for $4 to do the same thing.

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  61. Seriously? by mschaffer · · Score: 1

    The Pentagon was completed in 1943 when the Government Communications Headquarters was still crammed into Bletchley Park.
    Sure, the Pentagon is not a circle, but it is a multi-ringed structure designed to optimize some of the same things that Apple has claimed to have solved with their design.

  62. so.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    apple would rather waste money on a frivolous dream of a dead employee than, i dunno.. pay dividends? reinvest in new tech?

    there's enough room at apple's existing campus to expand a bit to consolidate some of the corporate staff currently located off-site. such plans would cost a tiny fraction of this new building's cost.

  63. Re:Doomed by Hognoxious · · Score: 1
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  64. Laugh by koan · · Score: 1

    About as good an idea as a watch.

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  65. A tape reel does not have a forested area in the c by FeltLion · · Score: 1

    Hey the earth looks like a basketball, what a foolish idea!

  66. Re:With all due respect, you're a fucktard**n by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

    You can attach small plaques to the walls (with rounded corners of course) that have words on them to say where you are.

    For the benefit of people like you, it's possible to either replace the words or supplement them with pictures.

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  67. Mmmmmm, delicious by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Giant Onion Ring !

  68. Feels like the edifice complex by oldestgeek · · Score: 1

    How many tech companies built a palace at the top and it becomes a museum or office complex or Oracle swallows it up?

  69. Looks Just Like... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why it looks just like the new Mac Pro.

    Only a bit bigger

  70. You can chart the decline of a corporate giant by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    from when they turn their attention to building an edifice to themselves.

    It happens over and over.

  71. construction budgets by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    We've been doing some estimating for the building. They are spec'ing all European products. Everything is bright white and exceedingly high end. I'm not under NDA but the people we work with are and have not been able to confirm it is the apple campus but when I back worked the materials it all led back to London Architect. It is going to be an amazing place to work. However, I have a theory. Everytime a company makes a new campus you need to divest. (eg Facebook, Gap Clothing, and many others)

  72. Hmm. by sharknado · · Score: 1

    After the collapse of the world economy, this building will be used for gladiator-style combat.