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Australian Exploration Company Believes It May Have Found MH370 Wreckage
First time accepted submitter NapalmV (1934294) writes "Using technology designed to find nuclear warheads and submarines, an Adelaide-based exploration company believes it may have located the wreckage of Malaysia Airlines flight MH370. 'The company, GeoResonance, says its research has identified elements on the ocean floor consistent with material from a plane. Six weeks have now passed since the plane disappeared and extensive searches in the Indian Ocean have failed to locate any wreckage.'"
that I simply don't care anymore? After weeks of CNN jumping at every bit of trash in the ocean, I simply do not care about this plane anymore. Toss a couple wreaths into the water and call it done.
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There is absolutely no doubt that flight 370 was electronically hijacked and flown through the Maldives and on to Diego Garcia. There is also no doubt that there was a plan to use at least the image of flight 370 to crash the nuclear summit in Belgium and blame it on Iran, and that the Dutch intercepted the crash craft before it arrived. This report is documented accurate. There will be a lot here, briefly discussed that you have not seen before. If you were looking for a concise report that will give a clear picture, this sums it all up.
What about the pings they received near the current search area? It was said to be consistent with that of a black box. With all the contradictory news around, I don't think I can believe this until they have proof for sure.
Australian companies have proven themselves to be complete assholes. One after another keeps spouting the lie that they found the plane. Every one of them so far has been proven a fraud. The people here are no better since I’ve never heard a single one of my friends demand that these dishonest business men be put in prison. I am ashamed of my country. We are an embarrassment.
I'll believe it when I see them bring up something. Until then I think people with divining rods have just as much credibility.
CNN is hoping against hope it aint true. It would not know how to fight the withdrawal symptoms if "370 vanishes" story vanishes.
sed -e 's/Chuck Norris/Rajnikant/g' joke > fact
Big deal. Courtney love says she found it, too. I think her diagram might be even better.
To that boat that sorta, but not completely, sank near south Korea or China?
Cause I forgot all about that plane.
Does anyone have any info on what sort of tech this company is using? From the little info in the article I get the impression they are using satellite images? I'm rather skeptical that surface images can pick up elemental signals from the sea floor at substantial depth.
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In the Bay of Bengal? One of the most polluted areas of ocean imaginable? The area where ships and planes are scrapped? My money is on a false positive.
So let me get this straight, the company is called Georesonance, their technology is called large-scale remote sensing, and their specialty is locating nuclear warheads? Could they possibly cram any more hoaxy-sounding buzzwords in there? To top that off, if the technology was real, you'd think we'd heard of them before and they'd have loads of imitators. You can hardly blame the official searchers if they don't follow up on this lead, although I guess looking there and finding nothing would be quite public humiliation for the company. On the other hand you've got the whole "We're not saying it's there, we're just saying there's something there" and that they can always tell them to look harder...
It was just some guy and his lady in a 30's prop job on the bottom of the ocean.
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I am just amazed at the total lack of wreckage. I mean, none has been found. With the technology we have on the ocean currents something should have been found. Makes me think it wasn't a full fledged crash maybe they landed and then sunk. At any rate i feel for the familys they would like closure as i would.
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Using sensors which can pick signatures over time (bother before and after the crash) of various metals, like aluminum, titanium and steel (radiation as in spectrophotomry), sounds like the type of info you need. Getting it out of satellite info from orbit is a bit of a surprise to me.
What this indicated, from the article, to me is that the military has far higher capabilities than I ever thought.
is all of those people who are saying that people are searching in the wrong area using uncorroborated data. Is this a last ditch want of hope from people, or is there something seriously scientifically missed? And if the latter, why are they searching where they are?
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I just looked in my trashcan here at work, an I may have found MH370 wreckage. Almost certainly I have not, but still I may have.
Until confirmed one way or the other, CNN should really send a team over to my office to report on the movements of the neighborhood dogs.
CNN's heyday was the First Gulf War
Agreed. The way they laughed off the overwhelming probability that it was all about oil (i.e. profit) was just brilliant.
Anybody can die. The trick is to die in an interesting way. Maybe your purpose in life it to serve as a warning to others.
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In light of MH 370, all aircraft are required to stream their black box and GPS data into the cloud. It's amazing how in this day and technological age that this can actually happen.
That is close to the northernmost one of the two arcs that Inmarsat deduced the last ping must have come from, so I guess it's not entirely implausible.
It doesn't seem likely to me that the plane would still be completely intact though, which seems to be implicit in this article. If it fell out of the sky due to lack of fuel, which currently seems the most likely scenario, it would have impacted the water at high speed and would surely have broken up.
it's all a made-for-TV movie. you are not an extra, no $100.
if this is supposed to be a new economy, how come they still want my old fashioned money?
From the images I saw the grid they use is pretty fine,
if shape and grid do really conform each other, then the resolution is approx 100mx100m so the position in this grid is also very detailed. WikiP-tells me The water depth is "4694 " at max and
2600m average.
This is not so challenging, also the Indian Navy(submarine+sub hunters) operates in these waters so the best address to transfer the coordinates to is India. If they could check the deep sea surface there with sonar imaging.
hard Result: Positive or Negative
I'm not convinced about the scientific integrity of this company. What they claim to be able to do sounds very vague, shady and too good to be true and there's a telling lack of concrete facts about how their technique works. The "learn more about GeoResonance technology" page is conveniently "under construction". The brief summary states they use:
Sounds a lot like pseudoscientific technobabble to me, absent more details. I'm getting a hint of Steorn here...
While I agree that it would be best for everyone to get unbiased news across the political spectrum, there is a difference between leftist (or rightist) "news" and "spin".
To me, "spin" implies falsehood, or at least heavily biased reporting. On the other hand, it would be possible do completely unbiased reporting of news that is of interest to those on the left (or right).
"There is not a good left-leaning news channel out there. "
Because left-leaning thought is essentially intellectually bankrupt. It generally is poorly thought out, and the arguments boil down to an undefinable "fairness" issue. No facts or figures, just feelings and emotions.
Might as well put religious people in charge of the government. They are at least are honest that their thought process comes from faith, not reason.
To get some free publicity.
Hope is the currency of fools
This is really interesting from the standpoint of, if it is true it's nowhere at all near where they are currently searching - where a ping was detected.
So if this new position turns out to be correct, what was that ping?
Also very interesting this information was discovered two weeks before the batter on the pinger ran out, but it doesn't seem to have been followed up on.
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Two world wars, and countless other land to sea to air battles have littered the oceans with thousands of aircraft, debris and wreckage consistent with what they are calling an airliner. If they've found it, go get it by all means. Its incredible that this aircraft went missing in broad daylight with today's technology to begin with. It proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that man isn't as smart as he thinks he is or maybe we just aren't used to using all this technology for peaceable endeavors.
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As someone from the GIS and remote sensing community either their terminology is weird, or whatever specialized focus they have is significantly different.
Remote Sensing as I know it usually revolved around satellite imagery or aerial photography. "Earth" Remote sensing? Isn't it all unless you are looking through a telescope at space :) Seriously could be something to do with seismic or magnetic sensing, but I am pretty sure there are actually terms for both of those things that are not called "Earth" Remote Sensing, but it could be they are trying to dumb it down for a public website.
Nothing too exotic about multispectral imaging. From my experience it is usually used in satellite imagery using false colours to try to illuminate something. Usually like vegetation, lack of vegetation, or water (Or really anything a certain wavelength of detection bounces off of that other wavelengths do not).
Gamma irradiation? Hulk Smash? I know it is used in a passive sense for some astronomy type detectors, though I think usually the idea is to avoid it as interference in the collider sense. irradiation sound active, which doesn't really seem reasonable to me, then again maybe they are just being cute. When I look it up, seems to be used to kill organics, typically to sterilize medical equipment and food.
Radiation Chemistry? Is that a thing? I thought radiation was energy, not an element. Only context I can see is the study of the effect of radiation on chemistry, like radiation sickness. The only likely thing I can think of would be something like carbon dating which relies upon measuring the ambient radiation content and has something to do with when we first introduced radiation in the form of nuclear testing to the world. Perhaps they are just trying to have "fancy" carbon dating.
Edit: Also apparently a thing: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R...
Not sure how it applies to this situation, but it could be it is just a diverse company that does many things.
NMR spectroscopy? Apparently it is a thing, because I looked it up. The Internets say:
http://www2.chemistry.msu.edu/...
Which looks awfully complicated.
Proprietary know-how. Which is my personal favorite. Sounds like something you put on a shitty resume. Might as well said "Street Smarts!"
There's enough death and misery in the news.
It's not just the news, it's television in general. The most disgusting are the shows that detail real-life murders, complete with actual crime scene photographs, as if when someone is murdered, their unfortunate death should become some corporation's profits and everyone else's entertainment.
Look at them carefully; if you stand back and squint a little you can make out Jesus' face in the image.
These guys are definitely onto something...
sigs are for losers (except to point out that sigs are for losers)
"military has far higher capabilities than I ever thought."
Or some subcontractor is trying to scam their way into a lucrative military contract with some magical "technology" that can spin straw (low resolution satellite data) into gold (missing aircraft no one else can find). Kind of reminds me of those cheap novelty golf ball finders that someone repackaged into "bomb detectors" and sold to the UK for millions.
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"Using technology designed to find nuclear warheads and submarines..."
Using technology designed to check in at Denny's on Four Square, they could have known where the plane is more than once per hour or whatever the hell.
The location doesnt "agree" with the Inmarsat satellite pings.
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Why is there any lean...in a NEWS channel FFS?
What you mean is that you - just like the rest of us - aren't all that fascinated by this anymore. We in the West sleep just fine if our personal lives are OK even though whilst we sleep, more people than were on that flight will have suffered a worse death than those passengers - burnt as witches, stoned due to sexual orientation, died from starvation, from snakebite with no medical care, from diseases that were eradicated here long ago, fighting as child soldiers...
And many of those are causes we actually could "care" about since there are a few organizations like Doctors Without Borders worth donating to since they actually do a decent job of helping those people. Watching the news - let alone speculating about MH370 on Internet forums - does nothing to improve the chances of actually finding that flight (even the crowd-sourced satellite image analysis is of questionable use it seems) and the benefit of finding it would just make it a little bit easier for the loved ones of the passengers to find closure. The only people actually doing anything about finding it are the professionals doing the searching. In the third world "finding closure" is an unfamiliar luxury when your own survival forces you to just go on living.
I'm not criticizing anyone but just trying to inject some rationality into an emotional reaction. Oh, and I have probably been more guilty than most of being fascinated with this since I've always been fascinated with aviation and hence both good news (such as successful test flights) and bad news like this result in me absorbing all the information I can get (and facepalming at most of the mainstream reporting).
A search on their patent refs leads nowhere except to their site.
This remind me the Great Oil Sniffer Hoax
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_accidents_and_incidents_involving_commercial_aircraft
They used a https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLDgQg6bq7o
We earthlings found that there was water in Jupiter 300,000 years ago
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If this is true it has vast implications for surveillance. ...and more
No longer will a camouflage net hid anything.
Deep water will be less valuable for hiding submarines.
I doubt the jump media has made but we do need
better deep water survey and exploration tools.
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