The NSA Is Viewed Favorably By Most Young People
cstacy writes: A poll by the Pew Research Center suggests that Snowden's revelations have not much changed the public's favorable view of the NSA. Younger people (under 30) tend to view the NSA favorably, compared to those 65 and older. 61% of people aged 18-29 viewed the NSA favorably, while 30% viewed the NSA unfavorably and 9% had no opinion. 55% of people aged 30-49 viewed the NSA favorably. At the 65+ age bracket, only 40% of people viewed the NSA favorably.
In other news, Satan is viewed positively by those who have never heard of him...
...and you do, because they're reading everything... how would YOU respond?
What they meant is that they like casual sex. "No Strings Attached", usually abbreviated "nsa", is, at least according to wikipedia, "an expression for casual sex often used in personal ads."
We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.
I have found they exact opposite to be true when talking to people. Those between 18-30 mostly deeply disapprove of government spying, while the 30-45 demographic seem to split on the issue and the most of the people above 45 all seem to say that they aren't doing anything wrong so they have nothing to hide.
"In Soviet America, Passport Stamps You!"
young people say the 'right' thing to pollsters.
They should have asked this way: "NSA is reading your WhatsApp, your phone calls and your mobile photos and making a copy of them. With that, it's building a database to determine if you *might* be criminal and make you disappear. What do you think of NSA?"
Oh yeah, the old "Back in MY day....!" argument. Excellent way to explain away everything with one centuries-old ridiculous premise.
I've learned that they're worthless, so I don't read AC comments anymore.
Is it that those folks hate the IRS or our tax structure?
I can understand conservative's (Tea Party types) dislike - it was pretty damning the selective enforcement of tax laws against conservative organizations, but the rest? Do they know the difference or are they using the IRS as the goat for our byzantine tax structure?
It's like how comments get mod'ed down not because of their value but because the mod disagrees with it.
And as far as the EPA is concerned, everything that I have seen that they have done has protected my health. Or as I like to explain to my fellow peons, if Big Corp poisons you, you can maybe sue, but good luck suing to get your life back.
A billion dollars doesn't compensate me for the loss of life and limb.
When I see this horseshit of a kidney is worth so many hundreds of thousands of dollars, I just shake my head in the stupidity of it all. My kidneys are priceless to me. All the money in the World won't compensate me for the 4x a week dialysis, loss of health and loss of physical ability.
Human health comes first, our environment, and corporate profits come last.
I think our system is totally ass-backwards. When a business can say that their business will be harmed if people's health is considered and get precedence, I think WTF is wrong with you people?!
Sheeples will like something when they are told by someone that that something is good
Most of the younger generations have been brought up without any struggle - everything has been provided for, from physical things such as housing, food, schooling to virtual things like voting rights, it's all there
Unlike generation of yore who had to fight the system in order to get something - the young uns don't need to
They are content, and content people can easily turned into sheeples
The question then is what will this data be used for if it is not usable/used for its intended purpose? I can think of nothing good, and this is the reason for those rights in the first place. To prevent tyranny.
Silence is a state of mime.
They just understand that there is no such thing as privacy on a party line like the internet. So if it wasn't the NSA it would be someone else. At least the NSA isn't inserting their adds in their data stream the way companies like Comcast does
http://arstechnica.com/tech-po...
You and your generalizations... "My" days? What do you know about them? The younger people were bathed in information from early school. Internet, games, social network, tons of tv channels... Too much information kills the information. Now older people were watching the news or reading newspapers at their younger time, and are used to pay more attention to what happens in the country/world. It's not about "my" days, it's about two different generations with two very different approaches with regards to information and how to deal with it. When it comes to something as big as Snowden's revelations, there is clearly a problem if younger people are not aware of what they mean.
Slashdot, fix the reply notifications... You won't get away with it...
How much of this is a reflection of "I trust the government, if my guy is in charge. I don't trust the government if the other guy is in charge."
The Patriot Act is probably a great example of this. How many people flipped positions on whether the Patriot Act was a good thing or a bad thing when Bush left office and Obama became president?
From what I can see, consistency of thought and philosophy seems rather rare in American politics. Too many people are partisan whores who always agree with their party and always disagree with the other party.
Why something is looking bad, wrong, negative, harmful or just plain dangerous? We know stories that we can match in a similar pattern that ends well or bad for the ones we could indentify with. We could not even identify a trend, a pattern or a situation if we don't have a name or a story behind that pattern. How much of those new generations read/watched 1984, brave new world, or countless movies, books and other kind of stories where the kind of acts that do the NSA ends badly for most?
Also, the bias supporting directly or indirectly latests government policies is obviously very present in newer movies, and almost a coincidence in older movies. Watch "The last mimzy" or "Predestination", based on great science fiction stories, get rotten to the core by that kind of modification. And superhero movies are having somewhat present that something is rotten in the higher level of government and corporations, and they get caught, and stopped, so the ones remaining in the real life must be the good ones, no?
With older generations is hard to subvert the stories they had all their lives, but with newer ones, with old stories losing visibility, is a somewhat easy task. From there to history rewritting there is a short path, and from there on we will always had been in war against Eastasia.
The question was, literally,
They specifically not only reported on the "never heard of" part, and tried to differentiate between that and "I really couldn't say".
How you can be moderated as insightful is simply astonishing, considering that you will probably never consider any fact that doesn't already fit into your established worldview. I would have accepted "ignorant", "mindless", or "automaton". But insightful? No. You do not deserve the internet.
We don't have to endorse the privacy-violating things the NSA is up to in order to actually have a good opinion of THE WHOLE AGENCY. The NSA isn't just "a few oversteps that Snowden reveals piecemeal". The bulk of what they do is absolutely invaluable. A world with no NSA would be a worse one.
And the politicians using double and triple speak know terrorist can do the same making any communication looking like common conversation..
The Spying and lying through the main stream media is just a manipulation feedback loop of the Peoples employees of government manipulating the employers (the people) among the many other things the Employees of the people are doing against the Declaration of Independence. i.e. stealing the retirement funds of the employers (the people) funded by the employers (social security), illegally arming the police with military equipment (and having the employers. the people pay twice for the same equipment claimed to be "surplus") while trying to suppress the employers arms (anti-gun efforts) and more . Its time the people apply their rights and do their duty and instruct those working in the peoples business of government, how the funding (taxes) they are supplying is to be used.
Its simple to do, a form to allow the taxpayers, the funders of government, to say how their taxes are to be used and included in the tax returns for the tax processors to allocate the funds according to the taxpayers instructions. Also needed is teh government transparency information, what the government wants funding for so the people can each decided to fund or not. If the government doesn't say, they don't get.
If there is a problem with allocation then funds are placed in a credit union account till government supplies verified receipts in accord to teh allocated funds, for reimbursement.
There is no need to spy on the employers, as the employers will set the budgets and this way the representatives will actually know what to do to represent the people. And the People will become participants rather than subjects.
This is a republic, not a democracy but democracy is only to be a supplement of the republic. However two universities (Princeton being one of them) have technically determined the government is functioning as an Oligarchy. Now read the Declaration of Independence for the instructions the founders wrote for what the people are to do about this distortion and abuse of bad business of letting the peoples employees run the funding of the peoples business of government bank account.,
Some of us grew up in between the end of the 'OMG Communists!' era and the start of the 'OMG terr'rists!' era. The rest of you probably shouldn't be allowed to vote.
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Here's another possible reason: people who grew up sharing everything publicly on the internet don't care who looks at it.
"First they came for the slanderers and i said nothing."
Here's another one still: people who grew up sharing everything publicly on the Internet already take steps to conceal their true identity from anyone they don't want to share with.
Most of the generation before me use their real names on Facebook. I'm struggling to think of anyone of the generation after me who does.
In fact, I'm struggling to think of many who actually use ID-tied sites like Facebook at all, or at least not for extended periods. Multiple accounts, shifting rapidly from one platform to the next, disposable communications via the likes of Snapchat... These kinds of behaviours are almost universal for the younger generation.
Personally, I tend to think that's a very good thing. My major concern is that sometimes the technologies the kids use aren't nearly as private or as temporary as they have been led to believe: plenty of supposedly deleted Snapchat material mysteriously reappears later by one mechanism or another, popular communication tools like WhatsApp might actually be owned by data hoarders like Facebook, modern data mining techniques can still ID people with high reliability from surprisingly small parts of "anonymized" data sets, etc.
If you disagree, post your argument. (-1, Overrated) isn't your personal censorship tool for views you don't like.
My father is distrustful towards the government even though he is liberal and not a tea party guy who hates them based on idealogical grounds.
The government forced his friends in highschool to be killed in Vietnam against their will. He had a baby and went to school and they ripped his family apart and sent him to fight in a war he didn't believe in based on lies by Henry Kissenger, LBJ, and Nixon.
To this day he keeps a photocopy of his discharge papers from the military. He said enjoy what you have because what you have can be taken from you by the second!
So ... NSA spying, making up lies with the Iraq war with weapons of mass destruction, and this intrusion etc. To my Dad this is scary stuff complete with a mass with the younger generation reading this who can be fooled by propaganda easier.
In the 1950s he was spoonfed propaganda too about those evil scary communistis hiding under the bed. Younger folks do not understand these concepts or have lived in fear of "What if they draft me next?"
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It's only suggestive of anything if you believe that your non-representative sample belies your words & is representative.
Democracy is a sheep and two wolves deciding what to have for lunch. Freedom is a well armed sheep contesting the issue