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Linux Kernel Switching To Linux v4.0, Coming With Many New Addons
An anonymous reader writes Following polling on Linus Torvald's Google+ page, he's decided to make the next kernel version Linux 4.0 rather than Linux 3.20. Linux 4.0 is going to bring many big improvements besides the version bump with there being live kernel patching, pNFS block server support, VirtIO 1.0, IBM z13 mainframe support, new ARM SoC support, and many new hardware drivers and general improvements. Linux 4.0 is codenamed "Hurr durr I'ma sheep."
What about calling it Linux 10, codenamed "Deep throating Microsoft"?
Does it come with systemd?
So, I assume that a bunch of nitwits are going to show up and say that Linux is never going to be used professionally unless they get their naming together. Inevitably GIMP will be brought up as another example. (And perhaps even GNU.)
Being that I work with distributors and customers from different nations I occasionally encounter people with not only names that are mildly funny but even obscene in my native language.
Guess what the professionals do? They don't give a shit about the name because if you let the name of something have an impact on your decisions then your choices will be limited by them and that itself is highly unprofessional.
Fancy names and shiny appearance is marketing tools to hide whatever is under the hood. Don't let that deceive you.
Very clever of Linux to make a very obvious dig at the recent feminist hijacking attempts made by the SJW community that is vague enough to keep from disrupting business, but clear enough to be caught by those of us in the know.
Well played, indeed.
Who uses the code name? I've always heard the Linux kernel referenced by version number. FWIW, if unprofessionalism is what Linus was going for then the new name is even better than the last.
It would really be nice to have a stable next-gen file system that can scale. ZFS is for the most part FreeBSD only and I'm just not reayd to switch to FreeBSD.
I had to check that this wasn't a joke. Fucking hell ... words fail me.
How about "Ha ha you can't trust us to behave even slightly professionally, as we have just neatly demonstrated"
Imagine the poor fucking foot soldier in a meeting with the CIO.
"Yes boss, we should skip MSFTs new offering and switch to the latest Linux update." ...... ah fuck it, I'm quitting IT forever"
"What's it called?"
"Hurr durr I'ma
the inescapable conclusion that internet polls are bad.
Big surprise.
But "Hurr durr I'ma sheep" trounced "I like online polls" by a 62-to-38%
margin, in a poll that people weren't even supposed to participate in.
Who can argue with solid numbers like that? 5,796 votes from people who
can't even follow the most basic directions?
In contrast, "v4.0" beat out "v3.20" by a slimmer margin of 56-to-44%,
but with a total of 29,110 votes right now.
Now, arguably, that vote spread is only about 3,200 votes, which is less
than the almost six thousand votes that the "please ignore" poll got, so
it could be considered noise.
But hey, I asked, so I'll honor the votes.
Source
... that 4.0 really is a big step up from 3.19 or is it simply the same amount of new stuff that would have gone into a 3.20 release anyway? Not that it really matters, Linux version numbers make about as much sense as Firefox ones these days.
Will luck, we also won't have idiotics ACs too!
Is there a complete X Server in the kernel yet? You know you want it.
NT
v4.0? Well, it won't be long before it's up to v39 if Firefox is any indicator.
1999 welcomed Windows NT 4.0.
Let's all welcome Linux 4.0 to the 21st century.
Everybody now!
Psst. Windows 10 coming in A FEW MONTHS!
My IBM mainframe is no longer collecting dust!
All Linus is showing here is that he's an arrogant twat who "put a poll up as a joke" and then got pissed off that people used it despite him saying not to use it. Image: Linus with hands clenched either side, red faced and screaming out "YOU DIDN'T DO LIKE I WANTED!!!!! YOU ALL POOOP HEADS!!!!". What a fucking babby.
[Bill Gates] Steve - put the chair down now, I'm still in it!
We're just about broke so you'll have to throw one of the old one's (again). Or maybe a box of those fucking phones no-one wants...
is the richest company of all time. So much for professionalism.
Back when I was reading slashdot in the 90s I was assured it was just weeks away from taking over the world. Now I'm looking for any serious answer as to why it's anything more than "work for embedded device manuafcturers without getting paid."
"Hurr durr I'ma sheep."
(setq sarcasm 'on) Well, that will certainly help me convince the boss to upgrade our infrastructure. (setq sarcasm nil)
I wish people in Open Source realized that Open source means you are living in a fishbowl, and everyone can see your shit. In a closed system you can call your work anything you like, the marketers will take care of the image. Yet open source, for good or ill, is visible to all, including this kind of nonsense. Juvenile stuff just doesn't work with people who have the authority to make major decisions. You would think that there would be a natural sense of shame in trying to practice marketing when you are really an engineer. Stick to coding guys!
One reason we use a lot of BSD here instead of linux a few years ago, is that not only is it open source but also there is a very simple release cycle and no one feels the need to name each release some sort of catchy name. The version numbers also actually mean something. It is an engineered solution, not a marketing project for high school nerds.
Linux will always remain a toy until the people coding it learn to grow up and actually promote its true abilities as an industrial strength tool for doing real work. Hurr durr just doesn't give that message. Even Red Hat has learned this and stuck to a very predictable release numbering which is what the bean counters like. Predictability is what makes risk management possible, and that is why people will invest money in it. Sheep do not get to play that game.
But well, it's just the kernel, so one could just use the number, but damn this sort of stuff is exactly why linux will never be taken that seriously, even if it is free. /rant off
Really, a chair throwing joke with Bill Gates and Steve Ballmer? Shows how out of touch you are with Microsoft
All I'm wondering is whether there has ever been a single quote in the codename before? Virtually guaranteed to break someone's build system...
They should have just gone straight to eleven because, you know, it's one more than ten plus that way they could have one-upped OS X _AND_ Windows! (and it's a freaking prime on top of that!)
"Only one thing is impossible for God: To find any sense in any copyright law on the planet." - Mark Twain
You've obviously never read a post by Linus where he was genuinely pissed off. Reading comprehension would tell you that he was expressing mild disgust over the number of people who either failed to comprehend his instructions, or comprehended them and did it anyway.
:)
But hey, believe what you want if it makes you happy!
I! Tego Arcana Dei.
Yes, Linux is only on embedded devices. It's not running on my phone, laptop, desktop, and server at all.
We don't have a state-run media we have a media-run state.
All they did was quote Linus' G+ post. Fail. They're officially as bad as OSNews.
have you no clue who linus is? you havent heard one of his rants? i mean hell i would never touch the linux kernel code (im not even in that realm of coding comprehension) but i do subscribe to the mailing list mainly to read him go off the handle on people who deserve it (atleast in my opinion)
If Linus' main motivation for bumping the kernel's version is because he doesn't like how high the minor version number is getting, and he keeps bumping the major number because of that, at some point, the major number is going to get as high as the minor number gets when he starts not liking how big the number is. So, presumably, he'll be unhappy with how high the major number is at that point, but what's he going to do? What do you do when you have Linux 19 and don't likely how high the number is? Change the name to something other than Linux? You might be able to go from 3.20 to 4.0, but the version number after 19.19 is going to end up with a 20 in it either way. Maybe that's when he'll retire and let someone else run things...
Four major version in 22 years, this is too fucking fast! You just want to replace everything with systemd and wayland! FUCK CHANGE!
If you can tell her to use Paint.net, then you can tell her to use GIMP.org.
So perhaps "sheep" was used to keep people from thinking of Goat Something Else (GoatSE). And do NOT search for that at work.
The difference is that there are more, more varied, and more mature tools to work with the binary formats "ASCII text" and "UTF-8 text" than the binary format "systemd log".
The little scumbags with their sockpuppet armies downmod "weapon" is effete when everyone knows how they work (as both yourself & Eunuchswear pointed out) to *try* to effetely "hide" ANYTHING that upsets THEIR "agendas" and makes them look like shit (with them running from a straight & fair challenge Eunuchswear put to them here http://linux.slashdot.org/comm... that they can't live up to).
APK
P.S.=> This place has serious honesty issues & reflects the morals of those who created it... how? Ok - WHY WON'T THEY LET YOU SEE WHO DOWNMODDED YOU?? ANSWER = the owners & sponsors here do it is why along with their "cronies" & it would show patterns of mod abuse used that way, no questions asked...They illustrate they can't BACKUP THEIR BULLSHIT! Facts and truth to them? No big deal, just downmod it away! They'll CLAIM "it would start flamewars" well, assholes? YOU HAVE THEM ANYWAY! This would help stop it... they don't WANT it stopped.
The little fucks doing bogus downmods KNOW it would betray their sockpuppetry & be a LOT OF WORK to maintain the karma farming they do via sockpuppets to mod up their OWN posts and downmod anyone's that doesn't fit their LIMITED MIND view (& they are limited no questions asked - they're easily seen through) - thoe people? PUREST TRASH! apk
Back when I was reading slashdot in the 90s I was assured it was just weeks away from taking over the world. Now I'm looking for any serious answer as to why it's anything more than "work for embedded device manuafcturers without getting paid."
I suggest you look at your smartphone or tablet, over one billion people might disagree with you.
There ain't no such thing as proprietary standards only proprietary formats. Standards are by definition open.
All Linus is showing here is that he's an arrogant twat who "put a poll up as a joke" and then got pissed off that people used it despite him saying not to use it.
Linus is actually referring to another test poll in which he has the options "I like online polls" and "Hurr durr I'ma sheep". Check out his Google+ page. I'm not sure what the purpose of that test poll is, but I suppose that Linus is metatrolling to try to see how easily people just chuck random votes to random online polls. Or something like that.
At least it didn't end up as the 'Butt-head memorial kernel'
All you are showing is that you have no sense of humor.
And it's not on any of our three servers, or any of our laptops/desktops, or on our router, or on our wireless extender, or on our TV, or on either of our smartphones. Or maybe it is on all these things...
But it is not better than Windows anymore...
Coming soon...
https://lh5.googleusercontent....
(notice the kernel version)
See subject: Put 'em on the spot by asking for proof they can't produce.
* IF they produce those errors from a reputable source, they'd have a valid point.
( Clearly, they do not. You win easily...)
The little schmucks even DOWNMODDED my congratulating you here before as that's all they know how to do http://linux.slashdot.org/comm... well, fuck them - this is how & WHY I defeat them easily - by letting them BURN UP THEIR MODPOINTS & I just post again (no limits ac poster here, no stupid "10 posts per day" from me, assholes - I nullify your bullshit, everytime, easily - better HOPE I don't tell everyone & ANYONE here how it's done, weasels... lol!)
APK
P.S.=> It's the surefire way of shutting the trolling shitbrains around here the fuck up, every time... apk
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linux seems to average a release about every 2 months. Which would mean a series every 40 months. To fill up series 4 through 19 inclusive would take about 16*40=640 months = ~ 53 years. According to google linus is currently 45 so that would make him 98.
I would expect him to be at the very least retired and quite possiblly dead by then.
note: i'm known as plugwash most places but i screwd up registering that here somehow in the past and now can't register
If a text editor is defective, you can use a different text editor. If the program that writes a text file is defective, you can still extract strings and resynchronize after the defective part by seeking toward the next newline. But if journalctl fails to read your binary log files, whether due to a defect in the logging process or due to a defect in journalctl itself, then how do you get information out?
It's gone up a whole four major versions in 22 fucking years. Get a grip.
Or he could become the first zombie kernel admin. Once again Linux brings innovation.
Yeah you've been gone a long time. Not just from Sashdot, but apparently there are yet rocks one can hide under!
Turns out that the Slashdot predictions in the 90s about taking over the world pretty much came to pass. The obscure project Linux is now known by everyone, and Linux is pretty much everywhere now for good or bad. Maybe not on the desktop, which is an every shrinking small part of the overall picture. Linux dominates the mobile world, pretty much swept clean the super computing world and the cloud computing landscape, and is still a huge player in the server world. It's not work for free either. Linux development is mostly done by full-time paid employees of quite a few companies that depend on Linux, and make serious money from it. So Linux really has been wildly successful, and makes people working on it a lot of money, and we all benefit. Pretty amazing picture.
Where have you been for the last 10 years ? It has taken the world, outside of PC.
A Linux kernel powers 99% of smart TV, 85% of mobile phones and tablets, and basically ALL the "things". It also runs 95%+ of all the servers in the world, 98%+ of the supercomputers, your car internal computer... I could go on ...
It did a pretty good job of it. Not only is it all over the embedded space, it has over half of the servers on the internet. So much so that the big expensive commercial Unix alikes went away.
Well put, gentlesir!
I occasionally encounter people with not only names that are mildly funny but even obscene in my native language. Guess what the professionals do?
They keep their big mouths shut out of respect for their hosts.
This has nothing to do with the geek's deeply embedded compulsion to inflict his sophomoric sense of humor on a larger audience.
Externals matter. Marketing matters, even in FOSS.
But it is not better than Windows anymore...
It is Windows now that we have systemd.
Some people simply don't get sarcasm, particularly when it's in a written form.
In my experience the ratio of those who get it to those who don't varies enormously from country to country; UK residents are more likely to think it's a joke while Americans are more likely to get upset, shoot their neighbors dog and start burning down buidings owned by some other ethnicity.
But I digress...
It's about time somebody said something about systemd.
ftape or I'm not coming
Microsoft is just about broke huh?
wow what colour is the sky in your fantasy world?
> What a fucking babby.
how is linus formed
At my home and my office it dominates the desktop, too.
psssh. the M$ sheep might know.
Put it THIS way: I've lived thru their machinations myself & KNEW *exactly* what you meant...
* Downmods, as they're done here @ least, are PUREST AGENDA FURTHERING BULLSHIT (which is WHY they won't let you SEE WHO DOWNMODDED YOU, so you can @ least confront them directly to justify those "hit & run" hide a post downmods they issue...)
APK
P.S.=> It truly DOES say a lot about the "moral fiber" of those who designed & run this site (zero morals)... apk
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