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Treefinder Revokes Software License For Users In Immigrant-Friendly Nations
dotancohen writes: The author of bioinformatics software Treefinder is revoking the license to his software for researchers working in eight European countries because he says those countries allow too many immigrants to cross their borders, effective 1 October. The author states, "Immigration to my country harms me, it harms my family, it harms my people. Whoever invites or welcomes immigrants to Europe and Germany is my enemy."
What a dork
Racist gene sequencing software.
From TFA it looks like Jobb is a racist asshole and his Treefinder software is outdated and has plenty alternatives.
Looks like a drama queen thing.
...gis sdrawkcab (usually not responding to ACs; don't bother posting as AC)
So basically he's a batshit crazy idiot who is ranting publicly and acting like a whiny bitch?
Congratulations, Gangolf Judd ... you're an idiot, and a moron.
And largely irrelevant, from reading this.
Everything about this article suggests some raving idiot sitting in the dark lamenting how the world won't adhere to his bullshit beliefs.
Whatever, and nothing of value was lost.
Lost at C:>. Found at C.
Somebody has fallen off the edge of reality.
Movement within the EU is legal for those with an EU passport. How about addressing the Islam extremists that cause 90% of these cowards to run like little girls to alternative nations? Yes, that's right. It's not families leaving shit-hole arab and African countries, it's the very men that would be defending it had they been born in Europe or the US.
Granted, chances are the guy doesn't actually have the right to cancel people's purchases like this. However, the fact that it's halfway-reasonable for him to think he has that right is yet another illustration of how ridiculously overreaching copyright has become.
Again and again, we're seeing a thing that is (a) a government-granted monopoly, not a right, (b) only supposed to be temporary, and (c) not designed for the benefit of the author, but rather for the benefit of society, perverted to the point where people think it trumps actual property rights!
This guy's attitude is fucking sick and disgusting, and that's before I even take the bigotry into account!
"[Regarding the 'cloud,'] ownership was what made America different than Russia." -- Woz
First, it is of course an owners right to limit distribution. If someone wants to sell only to people with three nipples, that is their right. Second, no one exists in a vacuum. The tools used to write software were probably developed and refined over time by corporate drones, kids in the basement, and, yes, even immigrants who took jobs away from hard working locals who could use the bread to feed their family. Read the rant on the down load page to see how this guy thinks he developed this software independently. It is the standard conservative delusion that we do not depend on others to accomplish what we have. Third, from the article, "Although the change in the license may be a nuisance for some researchers, the program is far from irreplaceable". People who write software like this really want it to be used. Most software is used because it simply what people are trained to use. For instance, Origin is used because everyone is trained on it, even though it may not be the best, and even though it is extremely expensive. In reality lots of students pirate copies of the software. This software does not appear to cost anything, so one of two things will happen. I suppose that labs will just continue to use it, even without a license, unless it prevented by peer review. If that happens different software will be used. Again, reading the rant it seems like just another conservative having a temper tantrum because someone else that does not look like the developer is getting free stuff.
"She's a scientist and a lesbian. She's not going to let it slide." Orphan Black
Too few people nowadays (and politicians en masse) are willing to speak from a core belief set for fear of {horrors} offending someone!
Even ridiculous courage is refreshing these days.
Happiness in intelligent people is the rarest thing I know.
Ernest Hemingway
Problem: Immigrants are destroying my life!
Solution: Prevent people in some countries from using some niche software very few people care about, least of all politicians, "big corporate" or said immigrants.
Pure genius!
Bitten Apples are still better than dirty Windows...
"I have not yet been rewarded for my work.
I think we need a completely different political system.
Nobody should depend on employers and landlords.
Nobody should be profitable for someone rich.
Nobody should have to pay rent, have to migrate.
Most of all, we must limit private property.
We must expropriate the rich.
Free land for all!"
Four out of five migrants are not from Syria:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3240010/Number-refugees-arriving-Europe-soars-85-year-just-one-five-war-torn-Syria.html
Europeans have a right to be upset at their governments for what is going on.
Oh the irony... the immigrant problem is caused the the USA's warlike foreign policy in Syria, Libiya Iraq etc. Us poor saps in Europe get to pick up the pieces.
Damn straight, just ask any Native American!
What a fool believes, he sees, no wise man has the power to reason away.
This is an interesting way to take action. Not politically correct but as political correctness is almost unlimited immigration and anyone who dares say otherwise must be a racist xenophobe. As someone with kids in school I say with complete certainty that illegal immigration, which is one step worse than Europe's bungled current immigration, definitely hurts my family. How you ask? Class size and diverted resources for one. About 20% of the school is either an anchor baby or illegal. Much higher if you go back a generation. Larger classes and funds spent teaching them basic English mean a diminished education for the legal kids.
hopefully not as that is why the EU was created. but it seems since the crash, nationalism, racism and xenophobia has raised its ugly head - looks a complete mirror of the crash and rise of nationalism in the early 20th century
"The hands that help are better far than lips that pray." - Robert Ingersoll (1833-1899)
Why isn't Saudi Arabia helping? They have a tent city with 100,000 air conditioned empty tents normally used by pilgrims:
http://www.infowars.com/saudi-arabia-has-100000-empty-air-conditioned-tents-that-can-house-3-million-people-yet-has-taken-zero-refugees/
Instead they've offered to build 200 mosques in Germany:
https://www.frontpagemag.com/point/260080/saudi-arabia-offers-build-200-mosques-syrians-daniel-greenfield
He can't see the forest despite the treefinder.
I'm a good cook. I'm a fantastic eater. - Steven Brust
I'm not sure that's possible. Can you revoke a licence of an old program? You can change the licence for a new version, sure, but when I buy (or download) a program, the licence that comes with it *at that time* is the licence I have to adhere to I would think.
From the manual:
"By default, TREEFINDER displays a license notice every time the program is launched.
Clicking the I-agree-button all the time might get on one's nerves after a while, so here is the
trick how to switch it off: using a text editor to create a file containing the words 'I promise
that I will always respect the current license conditions.' and save it in your 'Treefinder'
directory as 'i_agree' (without a file extension!). You will never see the license notice again."
and:
"This license agreement is valid until the next software release. Afterwards, the license of the
latest TREEFINDER version applies."
So it looks like he was already a control freak back in 2011, and was attempting to reserve the right to impose retrospectively whatever licence he felt like issuing in the future. I suspect this wouldn't stand up to serious legal scrutiny, but it was already a big red flag before he went off the rails completely.
The truth of Islam, is that it is never happy being the little church down the road, it must be the church, the state, and the law.
So, basically the same same as Christianity, then?
"hmmn... havnt had any publicity in a while... i need a bit of attention... what do i do" ...
BINGO!
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Wait... You think Saudi Arabia wants them? Hah! Pull the other leg and maybe I'll do a trick. Nobody, except maybe Iceland, wants them from what I can see. I guess I can understand why and I don't have the answers.
"So long and thanks for all the fish."
The part about Sweden is a theoretical possibility, in that somebody managed to dig up an old law, and not even about homes.
The German one is about a woman who rented an apartment in a building, and the land lord has decided to stop renting out apartments, and sell the whole building. She has been given over half a years notice, apparently more than German law requires.
The headline is just right wing extremist propaganda.
Its what I feel when I see these Europeans griping about what most of them deride the US for. It may be wrong but it is funny.
The major innovation that the Christians created (and Islam copied) is the idea of "you must belong to us". Christianity used "if you don't you go to hell" - a concept unheard of before then, while Islam came up with "and you can't quit us afterwards".
Up until then, Judaism, Hinduism, and the rest of the world's religions were "If you want to join us, you have to prove yourself worthy".
So don't go complaining about Islam being expansionist, when they just copied the Christians.
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The guy is simply desperate to get some attention.
I live in the EU and the mainstream media are totally biased pro-immigrant. Comments on the immigrant issues are usually turned offed, polls are not published, articles are 100% immigrant-friendly.
If you do not follow this pattern - you are racist , xenophob etc.
However if you talk to people - people are 80% anti-immigrant.
We do believe we should help the poor people but the help should go to camps in LIban, Turkey, Jordania, to women and children who are there, not to young fit guys coming here. We should also increase military help to stabilize situation in Syria.
The number of immigrants coming is way over the assimilation ability of Germany and other popular countries.
Immigration is an important economic issue. It's lowers wages. It's a way to balance economic forces but if unchecked it gives businesses an unfair pool of low wages employees. If you don't respect parts of your country for it's economic impact on your then I don't see anything wrong with what your doing as a "statement of protest". You have the unalienable right to express your dissatisfaction. But being realistic it just won't have an economic impact.
And this is why I like freedom in my licences as a consumer.
Sorry, pull this and lose my custom.
But I certainly will never give you a way to pull this on me retroactively or on a product I currently have and rely on.
The door swings both ways - you can't impose your political beliefs on me, and I can't stop you selling the software in your homeland either (unless you're doing something illegal there, etc.).
You're linking to kook sites. Why do you want to present yourself as a crazy person?
Nationalism, yes.
But wanting to stop the flow if illegal immigrants is not racism, because you don't care what color they are - just that people should immigrate legally, so that they can come in at a rate that they can mesh well with existing society.
That is merely realizing that a national identity has value, and is worth protecting...
Mind you, I disagree with how they are trying to protect against immigration - what if some of the people they have blocked are supporters of their cause? Perhaps instead they should demand public statements on websites of the companies denouncing illegal immigration.
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
And that was a good thing. Replacing current population by waves of migrants was good back then just as it is good now. Don't listen the whitephobic bigots, the white migrant brought lot of advancement to the primitive american savages. They also culturally enriched them.
In the same way, as explained by the liberal media, the brown migrants enrich us so much. #RefugeeWelcome
This time, it looks like it will be Europe and Russia against America. Putin seems to be the only politician who's taking the invasion of Europe seriously, and the new European leaders will inevitably turn to him for help after they kick out the 'we're all the same under the skin' liberals who currently run their countries.
H1B visas aren't given to immigrants. In fact, immigrants and would-be immigrants are specifically excluded from being allowed to use them.You're here on a temporarily basis with one, and you have to leave after it expires, no option for applying for permanent residency, let alone citizenship.
You are not alone. This is not normal. None of this is normal.
From what people actually working in that field are saying, this software was already on his way out for some, and already replaced for others. I'd say the risk of piracy here is low.
So he is a raving racist lunatic?
First warning sign - can't discriminate between immigrants and refugees.
Second warning sign - totally incorrect about immigrant benefits to societies, because immigrants provide a net benefit to their host economies.
Obviously the license change is not enforceable, as it's totally racist, but I do hope that all researchers stop using this software.
I would also hope that this guy is done for hate speech in the near future, after reading the article. He's a bona-fide nutjob that would appear to be on the verge of a terrorist act against those his discriminates against.
huh, a software developer that's a unstable nutbag. There's something you don't see every day.
the preceding comment is my own and in no way reflects the opinion of the Joint Chiefs of Staff
As unfair as it might be I think the response to the crisis is wrong. We should NOT welcome the refugees and asylum seekers. By and large these people are the educated people of quality with some wealth in that region that are leaving. If anything it might be self serving to allow them to come to the US or enter the EU.
If Syria, Libya, Iraq, Afghanistan etc are ever to be anything other than squalid hell holes its the very people who are leaving that would otherwise have the cause (families) and capability (education + money) to make those places better. While denying them entry in Europe and the US might be sentencing them to a life time of struggle or death letting immigrate dooms the places they come from to being dominated by the Islamic extremist loonies.
If we ever want to see those places settle down, and see it be possible for people to have a normal life there the only approach might be to make getting out more hopeless than taking back their countries from the crazies.
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"Enemy"? Really?
Wow. Just... wow.
File under 'M' for 'Manic ranting'
just that people should immigrate legally, so that they can come in at a rate that they can mesh well with existing society.
Say the body responsible for setting a nation's immigration policy has decided to admit refugees on the basis that emergency evacuation from a war zone outweighs the difficulty of "mesh[ing] well with existing society". In that case, they are immigrating legally.
Much depends on what the license actually says. If there's a clause that says that he can revoke your license at any time for any reason or for no reason at all, then this might possibly be legal. Why someone would want to pay for such a license is beyond me.
That said, this guy is cutting off his nose to spite his face.
And this bit, "I want to stress that this license change is not against my colleagues in the USA, but against a small rich elite there that misuses the country's power to rule the world. The USA is our worst enemy,” is the same approach that the "small rich elite" uses to justify the embargo against Cuba, and is just as effective.
Ooh, moderator points! Five more idjits go to Minus One Hell!
Delendae sunt RIAA, MPAA et Windoze
And this is why EULAs (all of them, not just this one) are evil and must be abolished.
"[Regarding the 'cloud,'] ownership was what made America different than Russia." -- Woz
http://www.infowars.com/europe-seizing-homes-to-house-muslim-migrants/
Why the heck is everyone assuming muslim refugees? Lots of people from Syria are Christians that fled persecution there! But then it probably stops being easy and you have to start thinking....
bickerdyke
Between having to re-agree every time you run a program and this "workaround", it labels the guy as kind of insane.
I'm a good cook. I'm a fantastic eater. - Steven Brust
You miss the point. It is wrong that this guy -- or anyone else, for that matter -- is allowed to impose "license terms" on the users to begin with. It should have been a sale, subject only to copyright law and the [German equivalent of the] Uniform Commercial Code.
"[Regarding the 'cloud,'] ownership was what made America different than Russia." -- Woz
Yes and no as part of the result of mapping the human genome is more or less nothing but a map of earlier migrations. And in the very long run, while genetic difference may indeed blend and mix, evolution could come up with some new mutant variation proving successful. (lactose tolerance anyone?)
bickerdyke
Cultures that are doomed or threatened by immigration are probably not worth saving. You can't "protect" a culture. If it's worthwhile, people who come to your country will adopt your ways.
You are welcome on my lawn.
Finally, someone with balls, not like PC /. assholes!
I suspect that racism is more prevalent in genealogists.
Racists tend to care about purity of blood. And the way to check this is, of course, genealogy. So it is likely that racists are more interested in genealogy than most people. Therefore, it is more likely that the proportion of racists among genealogists is higher than the proportion of racists among the general population. That's basic Bayesian statistics, maybe too basic in fact.
Nobody gives a FF if it's better. It's the culture of the land, you come here, you integrate. If you don't want to integrate, you should not be allowed to come here.
The whole debacle is circling around the idea that since drinking water from the water fountain is good, drinking it from a high-pressure fire hydrant is also good.
Companies with rental models like Adobe (with Creative Cloud) don't quite make you do this, though they have a similar level of control over the licence you have to agree to every time the subscription comes up for renewal. But at least we can understand their motivation (pure greed, rather than paranoid xenophobia).
The immigrants themselves did, by (literally!) voting with their feet. After all, they could have headed in any direction -- the Caucasus countries, Iran (and points east), the Arabian peninsula, Africa -- but they picked Europe.
There's little ethical difference between immigrants trying to import their culture and imperialists trying to export theirs. If you think the latter is wrong, then you should logically think the former is wrong too. The right of the newcomers not to have the existing culture forced upon them is trumped by the right of the existing people's right not to have their culture supplanted by the newcomers.
That said, I'm not at all convinced that (a) there are too many refugees to be assimilated or (b) that "but they might not assimilate" is a valid reason for refusing to accept refugees in the first place.
"[Regarding the 'cloud,'] ownership was what made America different than Russia." -- Woz
So we have to choose between open borders or the Third Reich. Definitely no shades of gray on this issue, just stark black and white? Somehow I am unconvinced.
Immigration is a positive net affect for a country the vast majority of the time.
Somebody else replied and called me a Nazi, so I feel compelled to point out that you mean "effect" above. Beyond that, this seems like a subjective opinion. In particular, tell that to all the African Americans who are being squeezed out of the job market by illegal aliens. Tell that to the European women who must "cover up" and can no longer go some places safely for fear of rape, or to pretty much any Jew in Paris...
Illegal immigration is a problem in the USA only because our politicians insist on keeping it that way. I've known people who where here in the USA for more than a dozen years legally trying to get permanent papers before finally getting it. If we killed the pointless war on drugs and simply issued social security numbers to those that asked in a timely manner illegal border crossings would be a thing of the past.
No, if we become (administratively speaking) friendlier to and more accepting of illegal aliens, then even larger masses of foreign citizens are likely to come over. Not sure why you would think otherwise. I'll leave the "legalizing drugs" thing alone, except to note that you may be smoking something potent if you think that's the way to make "illegal border crossings a thing of the past".
I'm sure his change to the Terms Of Service will be enormously effective at reducing the immigration problem. *cough*
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If there's any correlation between a person's race and intelligence, my guess would be it would be actually due to socioeconomic status and not genes. If a group of people are forced into poverty and lower quality education due to racism, those people will display "lower intelligence" (really, just not educated as well as the rich majority race who can send their kids to all the right schools). This will then be used as "proof" by the racists that DISCRIMINATED_AGAINST_RACE is actually less intelligent than MAJORITY_RACE. Of course, once you adjust for socioeconomic status, these differences vanish, but that's just adding facts which isn't allowed in a racists' argument. (At most, they allow half-truths - things that might be partially true in some circumstances but are twisted completely out of context to fit the racist argument.)
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Mendel helped prove those claims are no longer extraordinary.
Mendel helped in the sense that he established that traits were heritable in dominant and recessive patterns. The specific correlation of one particular dominant or recessive trait in any given species with another dominant or recessive trait, as far as I can tell, was outside what his pea experiments showed.
-1 for trolling.
First, I thought users weren't supposed to reply and moderate in the same story. Second, in what way was the comment "deliberately offensive or provocative"?
And where in that report does the data from the United Nations actually say that? It says where the refugees come from, where they have gone, the demographics. The Right Scoop puts their spin on the United Nations data without understanding it. The United Nations put out data on "Refugees/Migrants Emergency Response - Mediterranean". In it, they note the other countries like Afghanistan, Eitrea, Iraq, etc. that have refugees/migrations. The Syrian refugees make up about 55% of the migration occurring right now in the Mediterranean. That however does not mean there is not a refugee crisis; it means that The Right Scoop doesn't understand there are other refugees/migrations happening at the same time.
Second, the demographic data represents the entire population of migrations not just the refugees. Saying that 72% of the Syrian refugees is male only means that you can't understand data. Again it says: 55% of migrations are from Syria. These migrations are most likely refugees because of the civil war. 69% of all migrants (from all countries) are male. These two points of data do not necessarily equate to 72% of Syrian refugees are male. That's faulty logic.
Well, there's spam egg sausage and spam, that's not got much spam in it.
One hundred years ago, there were three million fugitives in Europe. There were only two places they could go, France or Holland. But most of them could hope that one or another the war would stop and they could go back home.
There are currently much less fugitives, but their future seems much more uncertain.
So all these people crossing the seas from Turkey to Greece are being persecuted in Turkey?
All these people cross the land border into Hungary or Romania are coming straight from a warzone?
No. Citation my cock.
Treefinder? Never heard of it.
This is just a cheap publicity stunt by the author.
Thank you for providing such evidence. So here are the facts as I understand them:
And here are ways the facts inform policy:
"Whoever implements, accommodates, or benefits from profit-driven militaristic foreign interventionist policies that destroy entire countries and causes an influx of immigrants to Europe and Germany is my enemy." FTFY
So it looks like he was already a control freak back in 2011, and was attempting to reserve the right to impose retrospectively whatever licence he felt like issuing in the future. I suspect this wouldn't stand up to serious legal scrutiny, but it was already a big red flag before he went off the rails completely.
Correct. You can only change the license for future versions of software. You cannot retroactively change the license for previously released versions.
My understanding of the legal principle at work is called estoppel. (IANAL)
Basically, you cannot prohibit someone from doing something that you already permitted them to do. If you allowed them to use your software before (the previous or current versions) you cannot later go back and say "I changed the license on you." Sure, you can change the license for future versions of the software. From my reading of his website, he is the sole author of the program, so he holds the copyright. He can choose to release the next version under a different license. But you are not allowed to retroactively change the license for previous versions.
Is he refunding the original purchaser's money? Or just keeping it, and taking away the software? Because if it's the former, then...he's a thief.
A thousand pounds of wood moving at 300 feet per minute. Don't get in the way.
WTF. Germany has the lowest birth rate in the world at only 1.38 births per woman. This is far below the replacement rate (which would be slightly above 2.0). Germany is literally dying. They need warm bodies or they won't have any workers to keep their economy running.
Why is it extraordinary? Populations genetically isolated for centuries frequently diverge in traits. Appearance traits are obvious proof. If there are intelligence differences too, why would it be surprising? It is so unsurprising that Darwin had this as one of his first observations.
We can't currently prove it because intelligence is not measurable enough because all types of intelligence have not been identified and understood well enough.
But it would be highly surprising if such a complex thing as intelligence turns out to be identical in all measures of central tendency as well as all measures of variation in populations genetically isolated for long times. Races are known to have different average, median, standard variation and variance of height, weight, skin color, eye color, malaria incidence, sickle cell anemia incidence, heart disease prevalence.
Bingo Dictionary - Pragmatist, n. A myopic idealist.
No. The GPL imposes license terms on distributors, not users. Users have no need to accept the terms of the GPL; they already have all the rights they need to use the software. But in order to re-distribute the software (modified or not), there needs to be additional permission given in order to supersede copyright law. The GPL does that, in consideration for the restrictions it imposes on said distribution.
"[Regarding the 'cloud,'] ownership was what made America different than Russia." -- Woz
He may very well have the right to terminate your license to use his software any time he wants to do so. This is the stupidity of the whole software license concept. You haven't actually bought anything.
Crime is crime, the numbers might go up with large influxes of people. But they will still likely stay at historically very low rates. We hear a lot more about crime today than in times past simply because we live in a more connected world and so are exposed to sensational news from all corners of the world. Crime rates have a lot of room to grow again before they impact the average person noticeably.
I never presumed that having more open borders and immigration policy would lead to less people immigrating, why would you even imagine that? Immigration is good, I would be very happy to see a lot more immigration in the USA. If you open the borders and hand out green cards to all interested parties then you've eliminate the largest motivation for illegally crossing the border, and hence being an illegal alien. I've never heard of an immigrant that wanted to be here illegally rather than legally, being illegal is simply the most practical option for most of them.
Illegal aliens hurt job prospects for unskilled natives because they have little to no recourse when offered wages below the legal requirements. By legalizing immigration those workers can demand they be paid the legal minimum, and so you actually hand the advantage back to the native because they already speak the language. The applicable communities also benefit since those workers can be paid above the table and have taxes collected. Since there will be a larger pool of laborers to draw from obviously jobs could get a littler harder to find. That said, most of the jobs that have been created since the 2008 economic mess have been in the unskilled labor bracket.
I've never smoked, drank, sniffed, snorted, or consumed in any fashion anything that is legally prohibited in the USA. I've also never consumed alcoholic beverages or tobacco products. I've never experimented with anything that has ended up eventually being banned or restricted. I do so for my own personal beliefs, those same beliefs though demand that I not tell others what they can or can't consume so long as it doesn't victimize another. Alcohol prohibition failed and was eventually repealed, and the war on drugs is similarly a losing proposition and simply a waste of resources and human potential. I only brought it up because aside from illegal immigration drug smuggling is probably the biggest driver of illegal border crossings.
Yike, Europe, doesn't it just suck when a bunch of people from far away suddenly show up unannounced and move in? /sarcasm
i wouldn't believe anything from the daily mail - its a right wing xenophobic rag that championed the nazis before WW2 and said all the same things about the jews that were escaping germany and coming to the UK
"The hands that help are better far than lips that pray." - Robert Ingersoll (1833-1899)
Saudi has not understanding of human rights for their own people, what do you think they'll do to refugees, especially if they are the wrong version of Islam?
"The hands that help are better far than lips that pray." - Robert Ingersoll (1833-1899)
you'll need to provide citations before anyone believes all your crap
"The hands that help are better far than lips that pray." - Robert Ingersoll (1833-1899)
A question for you: Would America be stronger or weaker if we gained millions of immigrants speaking thousands of mutually unintelligible languages, but not including English? Wouldn't there be real difficulties with infrastructure, and simply with people interacting with each other? What you seem to have missed is that the problem with the languages can also apply to other cultural differences that lead to clashes. It is socially harmful to inject incompatible cultures en masse into a population, and much better for the host country to control/limit immigration to those who seem most ready and willing to assimilate. Diversity for its own sake is frequently NOT a net benefit. Now, don't get me wrong -- sub-cultures are perfectly fine, whether Italian Americans, Kurdish Americans, etc., but they do all need to be "Americans" and learn English in order for their presence to optimally benefit America.
Key word above is "assimilate".
Why is it extraordinary?
Because the democratic concepts of equal justice and equal representation under law have not yet developed to take into account the allegedly different intelligence levels of different identifiable subpopulations. And because the best evidence so far is that intelligence metrics correlate more with socioeconomic status among people of the same race than with race among people with similar socioeconomic status.
"I dislike the flood of immigrants they caused to come here - come here to replace unprofitable Europeans like me."
At least he acknowledges that he's useless.
>http://www.treefinder.de/downloads.html
Holy shit, he's a racist idiot.
This is a great example of what can happen if you rely on non-free software. The author of it may suddenly decide, for reasons that have nothing to do with you and that you couldn't possibly control, that you aren't allowed to use it anymore. But you were relying on it? Sorry, you're out of luck. Life's hard.
"I'm too busy to research this and form an educated opinion, but I do have time to tell everyone my uninformed opinion."
Software licenses are subject to copy right law. If copyright law would not exist, the licenses would neither.
Cost free eBook I read (by iBook/Kobo/Amazon/ObookO/Gutenberg etc.): "The Green Odyssey" by Philip Jose Farmer.
Because a "sane" Muslim living in a somewhat lenient muslim country would be an complete idiot if he would go to totalitarian Saudi Arabia.
Hint: the germans abused the term Arier and declared them selves Ariers, an "Arab" is the equivalent of an Arier in the Muslim world. They consider themselves a few echelons above ordinary Muslims.
Like Switzerland other Muslims are welcome for the Hatch to leave their money there ... and are supposed to quietly leave in time.
Cost free eBook I read (by iBook/Kobo/Amazon/ObookO/Gutenberg etc.): "The Green Odyssey" by Philip Jose Farmer.
Copyright law does not force software to be licensed instead of sold. This BS got started because some people thought that (since, technically speaking, the software has to be copied into RAM in order to run), but US copyright law specifically says that sort of incidental copying doesn't count.
"[Regarding the 'cloud,'] ownership was what made America different than Russia." -- Woz
Shut the fuck up, you stupid racist. Let's hope that idiot never finds a good job again.
but US copyright law specifically says that sort of incidental copying doesn't count.
If that was the case, all software licenses by US entities, that includes GPL, would be void.
Cost free eBook I read (by iBook/Kobo/Amazon/ObookO/Gutenberg etc.): "The Green Odyssey" by Philip Jose Farmer.
This is not very different from calls to boycott countries or companies for various political reasons, it is just that political orientation of the individual is perhaps different from the people who usually resort to similar tactics. However there is one big difference, he is within his right to do this and only hurts himself in making such a stand whereas calls to boycott companies and countries often causes collateral economic damage that harms innocent people.
It's better called shitware. His announcement is actually quite suspicious, as if he's trolling for users in a reverse streisand effect. HALLO! I've written this uberfabulous piece of bio software that I'm forbidding all you ugly excuses for homo sapiens from using.
Oh, I'm all for immigration. Legal immigration.
Don't disappoint your bird dog. Go to the range.
Because the democratic concepts of equal justice and equal representation under law have not yet developed to take into account the allegedly different intelligence levels of different identifiable subpopulations.
This is not extraordinary in the sense it would need extraordinary evidence. Because this is just the extreme unpreparedness of society to deal with this fact if it is proven, and to prove it we would need to understand intelligence much better than we do. So this is not a valid reason. Extraordinary consequence of an event are not being discussed here.
. And because the best evidence so far is that intelligence metrics correlate more with socioeconomic status among people of the same race than with race among people with similar socioeconomic status.
Valid reason, but I already addressed it. Best evidence so far doesn't matter much because we have a very poor idea of what intelligence even is. We measure the expression of intelligence, which is more affected by nurture - although nature's effect on intelligence also has evidence.
Such weak evidence in favor of identical intelligences among races is not sufficient for the "extraordinary" claim that intelligence are identical. Because no measurable trait that could have genetic influence has been found identical among races.
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History already answered this question. It doesn't happen overnight, and it might even take a generation, but immigrants in huge numbers have been successfully integrated before in the USA. Ellis Island is a popular tourist spot because many Americans are direct descendants of people who passed through there at some point. I'm descended from people who arrived as part of British colonization, Scottish cattle rustlers, French Terror refugees, some Germans, and if you believe family folk lore a couple Native American Indians. And that's just the stuff I can recall off the top of my head.
I agree with the idea that we don't want our country filled with lots of little subdivided groups that refuse to associate and mingle. And I don't have any easy solutions for making immigrants 'assimilate' as you call it. But I can tell you for sure that by stigmatizing immigrants and freaking out about it in general we only encourage immigrant groups to close in on themselves and avoid cultural mingling. If we're afraid of our culture changing as a result of immigration, we'll just have to get over it. Culture is always changing and trying to crystallize it is a hopeless and fruitless endeavor.
People in Germany for the most part don't blame the refugees. They put the blame on the government and they are correct.
The German law says, that no one can ask for asylum if he enters the country from another safe country. Germany is surrounded by "safe" countries so there is no *legal* way to enter the country by food, train or car. And that law is not just a law, it is the Grundgesetz, Germany's constitution.
It would be the Governments job to apply the rules of the law but they choose to ignore it. The government opened the borders and let hundreds of thousands of refugees in - overwhelming law enforcement and local and state level refugee agencies,. Scores of refugees slipped away without even being registered, others simply refused to go where officials asked them to go.
Germany has a bad track record in regard to the integration of people from other Muslim countries - but it's not easy to integrate people with different cultural values. And there's no long- or short term plan what to do with the refugees. Small communities have to deal with hundreds of foreigners, States start to use eminent domain laws to take houses from their rightful owners to place refugees, in some areas, citizens are warned not to wear mini skirts because it could be "misunderstood" by refugees, fighting between different refugee national- or religious groups is common, there are numerous reports of rape and forced prostitution within the refugee camps . And more refugees are on the way. Thousands and thousands more.
The current situation is a nightmare. I completely understand why the citizens are starting to complain. The government failed to apply and to protect the constitution. That has (for the most part) nothing to do with racism or nationalism going wild. The people demand a plan, they want to know how the government is planning to deal with those refugees and what to do with all the refugees that are still "on the roads" towards Germany.
Alright, I decided to look up the section of law I was referring to. See 17 USC ss. 117, Limitations on exclusive rights: Computer programs:
The entire basis and rationale for EULAs is that the act of installing the software on the user's PC involves making a copy and thus "would have been" copyright infringement, so a license would be necessary to cure that infringement. It's a "nice" side effect (from the copyright holder's perspective) that such a license requirement provides an opportunity for the copyright holder to impose additional restrictions to which he would not otherwise be entitled (if he were, for example, selling a book instead). But as you can see, that legal theory is wrong because the code I cited renders such licenses wholly unnecessary.
Sigh... yet another person who doesn't understand the GPL.
Here's the difference between EULAs and the GPL: EULAs (attempt to) restrict mere use of the software -- a thing which copyright law (as I mentioned) already gives the owner [of the copy] the explicit right to do.
The GPL, on the other hand, has no affect on mere use of the software; in fact, the user does not need to agree to or even care about the GPL in order to do so. What the GPL does is restrict -- and enable -- distribution of the software, a right the owner [of a copy] does not have by default. In consideration for giving the owner [of a copy] the right to copy and redistribute, the GPL requires that said person agree to abide by its terms. That consideration is what makes the GPL valid. EULAs, in contrast, do not give the owner [of a copy] any rights he didn't already have, thus provide no consideration, and thus are not valid contracts.
"[Regarding the 'cloud,'] ownership was what made America different than Russia." -- Woz
Excuse me. "Effect," not "affect."
"[Regarding the 'cloud,'] ownership was what made America different than Russia." -- Woz
The author has already given full-access licence with the latest version of the software, non-revokable, back in 2011. If an update is scheduled, only THEN he can alter the distribution and usage selectively.
Furthermore, there is no legal way to back this up, since the international trieaties forbid any customer discrimination based on race, religion, political views, etc. This means that someone WILL use his software and if he decides to prosecute him/her, the court will drop the charges.
In practice, there are several thousands of scientist in other countries that will be willing to help. Send them your scripts and they will run them for you. No one can bring racism into science. Period.
"Abashed the Devil stood, and felt how awful goodness is..."
Because the democratic concepts of equal justice and equal representation under law have not yet developed to take into account the allegedly different intelligence levels of different identifiable subpopulations.
And even if it could, you could net determine an individual's intelligence by race alone. So it's a worthless metric.
The shepherds did so well protecting the flock that the sheep no longer believed that wolves existed.
This is not extraordinary in the sense it would need extraordinary evidence. Because this is just the extreme unpreparedness of society to deal with this fact if it is proven, and to prove it we would need to understand intelligence much better than we do. So this is not a valid reason. Extraordinary consequence of an event are not being discussed here.
Exactly how would there be any "dealing with" anyhow?
Intelligence is a trait that only matters on the individual level. There is no use for intelligenc averages by race.
If it was somehow found that People of African descent were on average X number of poits less intelligent, what does that mean? There's nothing to do, unless some group wants to descide that every single member of that race is substandard. And that would be really stupid.
There are people of all races that are genius level. And certainly there are a lot of really stupid caucasians. Doesn't matter to teh individual what the average is.
I suppose that the only advantage of one or the other race being classified as "the most intelligent race" would be that the really stupid members of that race might have something to feel better about.
And that hain't worth hardly nuthin, Cletus!
The shepherds did so well protecting the flock that the sheep no longer believed that wolves existed.
Well, no one knows what intelligence is, so it is really far fetched to ask the question how would we deal with it. Humans have no clue how to deal with well understood phenomena. Though at one time black slaves had around 66% of a vote?
Tepples should tell us more about equal law and equal justice and things of that sort. I'll eagerly wait.
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Schizophrenia is a very serious mental illness and I recommend that you seek immediate medical treatment for it.
Schizophrenia is a very serious mental illness and I recommend that you seek immediate medical treatment for it. Like, now.
Well, no one knows what intelligence is, so it is really far fetched to ask the question how would we deal with it. Humans have no clue how to deal with well understood phenomena. Though at one time black slaves had around 66% of a vote?
Tepples should tell us more about equal law and equal justice and things of that sort. I'll eagerly wait.
I'm never against knowledge. If "whites" test with a higher IQ than "Africans", or a lower IQ than "Asians", then so be it. Enough ambiguity over nature/nurture to make one question
So what would we even do with that information? Decide that only Asians could be leaders?
Deny that little 10 year old girl entrance to college because she's of African descent? Deny smart people line Neil Tyson because of that? relegate "White" people to certain jobs?
And what about the increasingly common mixed-race folks? A Chinese/African mix is what? Semi-sortasumpin?
Do we deny a genius of a supposedly inferior race, while insisting that the Duck Dynasty or Hillbilly blood dudes become the physicists and leaders of the world?
Even then, IQ is not even a remote predictor of success, or even competence.
Here's some white geniuses for everyone's entertainment:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?...
I felt a little sorry for her, at least she was trying to think.
Most of the guys were simply mindless examples of being unencumbered by the thought process.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?...
Future leaders by virtue of their superior racial intelligence, it would appear!
Complete and total useless information, as there is no way to determine an individual's intelligence via simply telling us what their racial background is.
The shepherds did so well protecting the flock that the sheep no longer believed that wolves existed.
Do you think your this post disagrees with any of my points? Or relevant as a reply to me rather than to tepples?
Bingo Dictionary - Pragmatist, n. A myopic idealist.
Do you think your this post disagrees with any of my points? Or relevant as a reply to me rather than to tepples?
Actually, I was agreeing with you.
I'm not completely certain why you have the attitude that anyone who replies is trying to pick a fight with you though.
The shepherds did so well protecting the flock that the sheep no longer believed that wolves existed.
The headline is just right wing extremist propaganda.
Actually, it turns out to be true:
http://skeptics.stackexchange....
It is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong.