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Yelp For People To Launch In November
HughPickens.com writes: Caitlin Dewey reports in the Washington Post that 'Peeple' — basically Yelp, but for humans will launch in November. Subtitled "character is destiny," Peeple is an upcoming app that promises to "revolutionize the way we're seen in the world through our relationships" by allowing you to assign reviews of one to five stars to everyone you know: your exes, your co-workers, the old guy who lives next door. You can't opt out — once someone puts your name in the Peeple system, it's there unless you violate the site's terms of service. And you can't delete bad or biased reviews — that would defeat the whole purpose. "People do so much research when they buy a car or make those kinds of decisions," says co-founder Julia Cordray. "Why not do the same kind of research on other aspects of your life?"
According to Caitlin, one does not have to stretch far to imagine the distress and anxiety that such a system will cause even a slightly self-conscious person; it's not merely the anxiety of being harassed or maligned on the platform — but of being watched and judged, at all times, by an objectifying gaze to which you did not consent. "If you're one of the people who miss bullying kids in high school, then Peeple is definitely going to be the app for you!," says Mike Morrison. "I'm really looking forward to being able to air all of my personal grievances, all from the safety of my phone. Thanks to the app, I'll be able to potentially ruin someone's life, without all the emotional stress that would occur if I actually try to fix the problem face-to-face."
According to Caitlin, one does not have to stretch far to imagine the distress and anxiety that such a system will cause even a slightly self-conscious person; it's not merely the anxiety of being harassed or maligned on the platform — but of being watched and judged, at all times, by an objectifying gaze to which you did not consent. "If you're one of the people who miss bullying kids in high school, then Peeple is definitely going to be the app for you!," says Mike Morrison. "I'm really looking forward to being able to air all of my personal grievances, all from the safety of my phone. Thanks to the app, I'll be able to potentially ruin someone's life, without all the emotional stress that would occur if I actually try to fix the problem face-to-face."
What could possibly go wrong?
We will bankrupt ourselves in the vain search for absolute security. -- Dwight D. Eisenhower
My first review of Julia Cordray on Peeple:
"Peeple co-founder Julia Cordray is a greedy bitch who sees noting wrong with a platform that allows reliable, anonymous character assassination. I have it on good authority that she also has sex with dogs while smoking crack and watching kiddie porn."
Just cruising through this digital world at 33 1/3 rpm...
This is beyond evil, even further than their extortionary treatment of local businesses.
Yelp can burn in a fiery hell.
TL;DR: Fuck you Yelp.
[social network entrepreneurs] were so preoccupied with whether or not they could that they didn't stop to think if they should
This is truly a terrible idea that can serve no good end except to that segment of the population that judges itself on popularity through conformance. My HOA would love this. I can't wait until this starts being used on job interviews.
I for one intended to get out my personality pink plastic flamingos and get ready for the apocalypse.
Sounds like an Onion article!
"once someone puts your name in the Peeple system, it's there unless you violate the site's terms of service"
Can't wait to violate me some terms of service!
Problem solved.
"First they came for the slanderers and i said nothing."
This seems like a great opportunity for legions of civic-minded people to give one-star ratings to everyone and make the service useless.
Nostalgia's not what it used to be.
"says Mike Morrison. "I'm really looking forward to being able to air all of my personal grievances, all from the safety of my phone."
Let the airing of grievances begin! It's a Festivus miracle!
Pretending this is my office full of bitter coworkers..
Now, now. Stop insulting the dogs like that.
This has bad idea written all over it, and I hope they get raked over the coals in courts around the world for it, not just for the harassment angle, but also the potential for defamation.
My children's generation will never the immense empowerment that comes from being able to tell someone you're likely to never, ever see again in your life, exactly what you think of them, face to face, without repercussion. I spent the last week of my High School internment doing just that, and the empowerment that came from it is exhilarating to this day -- as is the fond memory of telling the 'jock star' of High School who was also Bully #1 to me from elementary age on, "That's right bitch, put the bread on top." right in front of my mother as we checked out of the local grocery store five years post graduation, where that son of a bitch still bagged groceries.
I wonder, how long will it take for this to turn into a shit-storm, where you can easily identify the cocks and cunts with poor people skills that have nothing better to do with their life than to trash other people on yelp. WTF.
...is right here in this screenshot. Irony alert.
This seems like it was specifically designed to to generate libel lawsuits.
Ce n'est pas une signature automatique.
"FaceYelp" was predicted by Randall Marsh of Cracked.com in 2012. Cracked.com later ran an entire Photoplasty contest of online customer reviews for people.
The downside is that it would make life very hard for people on the autistic spectrum in a world of people who don't understand the autistic spectrum.
Challenge accepted!
You can't just write bad crap about everyone on the web -- it's legally actionable. If anything you say can be proven to make someone lose money directly they can sue for damages. Good luck.. :)
Called Peeple Pleaser We all get together, say a few hundred thousand of us download the app, and it will automatically upvote each other into the stratosphere.
Pretending this is my office full of bitter coworkers..
Somewhere around New Coke and "Highlander 2"
Just don't use their crappy app. From TFA...
If you haven't registered for the site, and thus can't contest those negative ratings, your profile only shows positive reviews.
Now people can be judged by the mistakes they make at 14 for the job they apply for at 55! How awesome is that??ha??
Laws are rules for the court, but merely a bottom bar to hit for life. Think beyond laws in your actions always.
Sending out unsolicited text messages like this app does is illegal in both Canada and the US, with monetary fines for the company for *each* text sent. Seems someone didn't pass their business plan by a lawyer.
"Even Prophets don't know everything"
From the article,
"If you haven’t registered for the site, and thus can’t contest those negative ratings, your profile only shows positive reviews."
Thus if you never register, you're invulnerable to bad reviews.
Because human nature for many lets me down more often than not, my thoughts on where this will go.
I'm gonna refer to the Han Solo quote on this one (and I'm not talking about the Kessel Run).
"Who are you?" "No one of consequence." "I must know." "Get used to disappointment."
Is it also a great time to be a Turk?
I'm a good cook. I'm a fantastic eater. - Steven Brust
This new website will be a private competition to NSA (or other agency) databases. Or a complement. Peeple will complement everyone's profile with the insights that would normally never be recorded on internet.
Currently US intelligence community "does not" have the files for absolute majority of the citizens. What they do have is databases, available to be queried and the profile of the websites visited, people contacted, or other activities. Imagine this as an old fashioned address book, supplemented with the key interests, ranked by popularity of the connections.
Privacy becomes a privilege. It comes with the cost.
I predict a very ironic 1 star review on Yelp.
Peeple? More like Creeple.
Hey, Windows users, there is no such thing as "forward" slash, there is only slash and backslash.
I don't know if they are already into it, but I can god damn bet that they will be crying out about internet harassment of women when their company falls flat.
I mean, it certainly couldn't be that this is a terrible idea and they are terrible people for coming up with it.
I think they'll see a massive flood of negativity on themselves, but only if they even allow themselves to be rated in their (cr)app.
Look back up at my post, now look back down, you're on the Internet. Now look back up. I'm a signature.
This sounds like it'll be totally useless at best and a source of libel at worst.
From the Washington Post article:
I guess the "established Facebook account" is supposed to keep bots off of Peeple, but how long until someone uses compromised Facebook accounts to post reviews on Peeple?
And how does Peeple verify this number? "I'd like to review Donald Trump. His mobile phone number is 212-867-5309." Is Peeple going to be placing calls "Hey, someone said you are PERSON'S NAME. Can you verify this for us?" Or will it just accept any mobile phone number as valid?
So if I don't register for the site, then only positive comments about me get posted but if I register the negative ones get posted too? What's the incentive to register? Why not just stay unregistered and tout that 100% positive rating on Peeple?
My sci-fi novel, Ghost Thief, is now available from Amazon.com.
That's about as much of a grievance as a Game of Thrones fan complaining that "Dothraki" isn't in a spell checker's dictionary. If you'll be making references to holidays invented by the writers of Seinfeld, you could just add it to the personal dictionary instead of your list of grudges. If you do choose to hold a grudge, make it against the trademark and copyright laws that discourage addition of well-known elements from popular non-free media franchises to spell checking software in the first place.
Did you mean a Juris Doctor? A juvenile delinquent? Or a Juris Doctor retained by a juvenile delinquent?
I doubt these people have the answer but whoever can figure this out will be rich beyond belief. The real problem with this idea is it seems like it's like Yelp which just accepts and store reviews. That is pretty meaningless in real life. There are people in my life who seem to be well loved by many but I can't stand. On the flip side there are some real jerks that I get along with fine depending on what we are doing. Going fishing is great but working on a project not so much.
The real goal would be something like the Netflix recommendation algorithm. If I get along with someone it should see who else that person gets along with and I may get along with them even if not too many other people like them. And that is just for one type of activity and it's not always a one - one relationship.
I love Jesus, except for his foreign policy.
First suicide due to bullying!
The college professors of the world say "Ha ha, now let's see how much YOU like being secretly judged!"
Man, that was sweet.
This is like GamerGate on steroids.
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"Is it also a great time to be a Turk?"
Only for the mechanical kind.
If you could only post positive things, this app could have had great potential. One of those "if you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all" kind of things. It would still work the same way, but it wouldn't allow people trolling people and ruining their lives.
...except you don't get to not participate! Anyone who has your contact information can rate you, and there is no way to opt out!
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Is October Fool's Day a thing now? This has to be a joke. No lawyer or investor with any sense would get anywhere near this.
This idea is worse than MeowMeowBeenz.
Panopticon: noun: a building, as a prison, hospital, library, or the like, so arranged that all parts of the interior are visible from a single point. ref
There is a petition on change.org to ban this app:
https://www.change.org/p/apple...
I look forward to suing the hell out of Peeple.
And that will be the easiest part.
"Win treats sysadmins better than users. Mac treats users better than sysadmins. Linux treats everyone like sysadmins."
This will be a terrible mess if they don't add a unique identifier. Maybe cross-reference it against everyone's Social Security numbers to start? Add in other international ID numbers as they expand.
The Quirkz Handbook of Self-Improvement for People Who Are Already Pretty Okay
... She'll be doxxed and harassed to no end before this thing leaves Beta. Once it goes live, it will be battered with intrusion attempts. I cannot wait to see how it all goes down.
I hope they, the we website operators, have a very big warchest, to go on endless wars with the lawyers of people from all walks of life. Unless of course, lawyers are the ones who are fueling this fire. I can not see anything good coming of this type of site. The guy you had a tiff once in your high school years, or your ex, whom you didn't have an amicable separation, can trash you and your reputation in an instant. Of course you can retaliate in the same way but it is a loose-loose premise.
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The more I know people, the more I love animals
I thought April Fool's was April 1st, not October 1st.
Their other revenue stream is from all the phone numbers they're collecting - you can't create a profile of someone else to review without giving up their phone number. Illegal as hell, but that doesn't seem to worry these bimbos.
I will personally do my very best to get Yelp sued into oblivion.
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I think they're asking for trouble with this.
In the episode, someone created MeowMeowBeanz and allowed you to rate people. This turned Greendale into a caste society with people voting each other up/down. http://community-sitcom.wikia.... I can only imagine the hellish nightmare that would be reality when this comes out.
Yep, its life. You don't get to control what everyone says about you...
You will be able to pay to wipe reviews of yourself from the website, just before the class action lawsuits roll in and the sudden shutdown.
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"The agriculture ministry is not in charge of Gundam" - Japanese ministry official.
Don't worry, no one can anonymously review and libel you, because you need a Facebook account to use this service. Since no one has ever thought of using sock puppets on Facebook, it is a perfect system.
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Already developing my opinion of the site's founder Julia Cordray, and will be ready on day one to post!
"Hi, would you like to get together and have coffee ... but first sign this Non-Disclosure Agreement, sign there, initial there, sign this on page 14, initial here ,,,"
[Insert pithy quote here]
This will produce so many lawsuits (and possibly homicides) that I think it has to be a hoax.
Could it be more than coincidence that today (10/1) is exactly six months away from April Fools Day?
Damn, these two AC posts are hilarious. That would explain much though, the way he stalks me on every single post I make, it is almost like he is trying to show his affection to me. Also, the hostility in every response is almost like the boys in kindergarten chasing the girls around the playground.
APK likes to ask for responses to the same things over and over. Maybe he just likes the responses?
This is what I thought would spring up around Google Glass which was one of the reasons I was against it.
But if this is true:
If you havenâ(TM)t registered for the site, and thus canâ(TM)t contest those negative ratings, your profile only shows positive reviews.
https://www.washingtonpost.com...
Then simply never register for the site, and frankly yet another reason to dump your Facebook account if you have one.
"If any question why we died, Tell them because our fathers lied."
Gallup et al. will lose major portion of income, if the new service proves useful to politicians. And if it does not so prove, it will be useless to the rest of us too...
In Soviet Washington the swamp drains you.
APK,
1. This has nothing to do with Peeple, or about the usage of said product to harass and stalk people
2. No one thinks that this is some independent AC supporting your position. We all know this is you.
3. You have won 0 arguments versus me, I have pointed out why you are wrong on numerous occasions, no matter how many times you post otherwise, you know you are wrong, which is why you post the same garbage that has been responded to already, to make it look like I never countered it.
4. Calling yourself someone's better is the quickest way to prove you are a moron, so keep it up.
You are offtopic, incorrect, and stalking. I will be sure to review you on Peeple appropriately as a stalker and as someone who knows nothing of computer security as you have proven on numerous occasions.
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APK likes to ask for responses to the same things over and over. Maybe he just likes the responses?
Whuffie... Exactly what I thought of when I read the synopsis. This concept is gonna go down really well -just like the Hindenburg.
Yelp should start a legal fund to cover their butts.
No sig for you! Come back one year!
I think we're back in the world of WebVan and Pets.com.
Not only do I do GUIDES you told me YOU LEARN FROM
Um, making stuff up now? I said I use DISA STIGS to secure systems, that doesn't mean I use anything you wrote, and it doesn't mean I don't do creative things (like stealing other people's hosts file lists, writing some script to combine them, and a program to manage it and calling it my own...not creative in the least).
You fixed the CIS benchmark tool? Then why do I see nothing giving you credit for doing so?
I have already stated I don't need to prove myself to you to know how competent I am, I don't act like I know everything like you, I post links to things which show what I am talking about.
You however still believe that your hosts file gets around DNSBL even though it has been explained to you on numerous occasions that it does not.
http://slashdot.org/comments.p...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
Please explain how you get around a DNS Black (hole) list. I would love to hear the explanation from a security expert like you about how you get by a server side protection from Spam.
As far as I have seen you are trying to claim that I am confused about what a DNSBL is, while I am pointing you at citations that a DNSBL isn't something you can get around.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
If you want to see a Troll, there is a picture of one there, it kind of looks like you.
APK likes to ask for responses to the same things over and over. Maybe he just likes the responses?
So from what I gather, you need a Facebook account to join, and you need to know someone's cell # to add them.
I wonder if it's using Facebook's record of people's cell #s through their API in order to verify this. If so, just don't add your cell # to your FB (who the hell would do that, anyway)? Or put one on there (set so no one can see it) that's fake?
Make yourself a big bowl of popcorn, then Google "apk arstechnica". Or just read this.
Il n'y a pas de Planet B.
http://imgur.com/J16eFWa
Celebrity worship is a poor substitute for Deity worship and costs more to boot.
OMG, thank you, I will have to read through that when I get home tonight, it appears to be quite entertaining.
APK likes to ask for responses to the same things over and over. Maybe he just likes the responses?
Don't worry, like a toddler, APK eventually tires himself out.
The right to protest the State is more sacred than the State.
Meow meow beenz. https://www.youtube.com/watch?...
Needless to say we all encounter the occasional mentally disturbed person, asshole, way competitive coworker, etc and they are going to give us crap reviews. Real bear false witness type crap. So some people might think that the solution is to hire people on Fiverr to give us an overwhelming positive set of review to drown out the negative reviews.
But the reality is that most people can smell a shill review from a mile away so most people look at reviews and quickly go to the negative reviews to see if they make sense and were written by at least semi literate semi coherent human beings. So drowning out negative reviews with positive ones isn't perfect.
What is perfect is to drown out negative reviews with more negative reviews. Thus if many people go out to their friends and all cross review each other with the worst possible reviews ranging from the vaguely sensible to the , "Used to run with a gang in 12th century Asia, left many piles of heads." or "Hung out with a big guy and kept saying Crush your enemies. See them driven before you. Hear the lamentations of their women. Then he acted on it repeatedly. Levelled many villages. We did have to sort him out so that he didn't rape the fields and pillage the women, though."
I hope that someone who has a huge following such as Howard Stern tells his minions to go out and review everyone they know in the worst way possible. This would then make the data completely worthless.
Another poison pill for their data would be to add countless versions yourself. Is that spelt Steinburg, Steinburg, Stienberg, or Steinberg? And which one? The one at 2342 Main the one at 2432 Main, the one at 2342A Main, or the one who is 23 or the one who is 27, who graduated from Citadel High or Citedal High?
So if we all put a bit of effort this terrible product can be sent to the hell it belongs in.
Reviews for John Smith and Maria Rodriguez are likely to become cumbersome and useless. In fact, only those with a unique name will be readily discoverable at this site.
Unless the soulless site owner decides to include other personally identifiable information. That would be risky without the express permission of the person being reviewed. OTOH, if a reviewer happens to mention the address / phone # / sexual orientation of the reviewed individual, could the site owner be held responsible in your country?
...omphaloskepsis often...
Libel and slander laws will be useful for prosecuting the dolts that start "rating" people on Peeple. I would also think that many Plaintiffs will include Peeple's principals and investors inn those lawsuits. That will keep their burn rate real hot!
What could possibly go wrong?
When are they planning to roll this out. I dont want to have to have my lawyers on retainer for too long.
In my country, like most sane countries we have very strong deformation and libel laws, some would say a bit too strong but I'd rather err on the side of caution given the number of dodgy people around these days.
If I got in first, I could take this "Yelp" to the cleaners for defamatory and libellous activities.
Calling someone a "hater" only means you can not rationally rebut their argument.
This makes me really happy to have a dual citizenship in one of the EU countries. The right to be forgotten law will be awesome for this site.
If programs would be read like poetry, most programmers would be Vogons.
I'm a five star man! I'm a five star man!
Positive reviews will be published instantly. Negative ones will go to a private inbox for 48 hours. How do they tell the difference?
"Positive ratings post immediately; negative ratings are queued in a private inbox for 48 hours in case of disputes. If you haven’t registered for the site, and thus can’t contest those negative ratings, your profile only shows positive reviews."
So, first of all, this punishes users for registering for the site. Given this information, I wonder if it will dissuade people from registering in the first place. On the other hand, assuming that they publish reviews attached to positive ratings immediately, I foresee people leaving negative text with positive ratings to work around this.
"On top of that, Peeple has outlawed a laundry list of bad behaviors, including profanity, sexism and mention of private health conditions."
I'm curious as to how they intend to outlaw these behaviours. I doubt that they are hand reviewing the reviews. So if my private health condition is mentioned then, presumably I have to somehow monitor the site for awareness of it, and then file a complaint *after* personal details have been disclosed.
On the other hand, this is a site that has not been launched yet and it has been in at least three major news outlets and we're talking about it on slashdot. I suppose we fell into the publicity trap hook, line and sinker.
Now THAT's libel bait. I expect to see lawyers getting rich off this...until the founders of Peeple go into personal bankruptcy.
I saw this the other day and the first thought that jumped into my head was "Wait, is it April 1st already?"
Since there are so many Bennet Hasselton's out there, we should definitely include their address and phone number (and maybe their SSN?) to make sure we're reviewing the right one. What could go wrong?
Why does this bring to mind a stepford kind of vibe? Or is it Logans run? Not sure but I know I just do not like this idea. What really bugs me is how middle-schoolers will use this as a way to cyber-bully the kids outside of their cliques, perhaps in a way that lasts waaay beyond middle school years? I just don't see a happy ending for this one.
The first person who gives me a bad personal yelp will reap my vengeance !!!! I don't settle things in court... And yes with a hammer I can fix stupid....
Paul E. Bahre
... amazing pedophile!"
I'll have the Law Guy on speed dial.
The first negative (or less than 100% positive) review and I'll have him jump in the middle of you with both feet and a briefcase full of dirty legal briefs.
I'll either end up fabulously wealthy at your expense, or you'll go out of business.
The Firm of Dewey Cheatham and Howe would be more than happy to take the normal 90% take on the class action lawsuit
They already have. When the app comes out there'll be plenty more where that came from, I'm sure.