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Federal Prison System Wants Anti-Drone Technology (networkworld.com)
coondoggie writes: Looking to counter the threat unmanned aircraft might bring to Federal prison guards and prisoners, the Federal Bureau of Prisons is looking at what types of technology could be used to defeat the drones. The group, which is an agency of the Department of Justice, issued a Request for Information specifically targeting what it called a fully integrated system that will allow for the detection, tracking, interdiction, engagement and neutralization of small — less than 55lb — unmanned aerial systems.
Just put up a fucking net over the whole thing...
The group, which is an agency of the Department of Justice issued a Request for Information specifically targeting what it called a fully integrated systems that will allow for the detection, tracking, interdiction, engagement and neutralization of small â" less the 55lb â" unmanned aerial system.
- introducing: the NET. This technology combined with the technology known as the MAN will provide a fully integrated system that will allow for the detection, tracking, interdiction, engagement and neutralization of small - less than the 55lb - unmanned aerial systems.
Not to be confused with the FLYSWATTER system though, which is a much weaker solution.
You can't handle the truth.
So far the only claimed "threat" has been cigarette and drug delivery.
I think there are some fairly obvious extensions to that threat.
Drugs, cigarettes, weapons, cell phones.
Have gnu, will travel.
Really, really? Put a net such that anything less than 1-inch in size gets snagged. $100 and a trip to Home Depot and you're fucking done.
The DOC of the states can comment to this post if they want to send me a check for (puts pinkie to mouth) ONE MILLION DOLLARS!!! for this technological masterpiece of innovation.
God, being a fucking brilliant Irate Engineer is fucking hard. Will all you nitwits shut to hell up and let me think? I'm trying to cure your pattern baldness and homosexuality, dammit, and it's not an easy problem. I might have to submit to a higher authority, which I hate.
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the Feds have to start somewhere (domestically) with anti-drone tech so it will be improved and cheaper then all law enforcement can have some
The real problem for prisons is helicopters:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
Sort of difficult to jam the control system for a vehicle carrying a pilot inside it, isn't it?
I've abandoned my search for truth; now I'm just looking for some useful delusions.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
Couldn't cigarettes and drugs be parachuted in just as easily? Drones are a lot noisier, therefore more noticeable.
I've abandoned my search for truth; now I'm just looking for some useful delusions.
Defensive drones, so they can dogfight.
-Dave
They use it everywhere in prisons in fact some max prisons even have it over the prison yard.
Drone drops payload and it sits on top of that out of reach of the inmates. Then you track the drone and arrest the operators and make them inmates too.
See win win
Isn't it already a felony? It's trespass and in most cases it's the smuggling of contraband into a prison.
Maybe enforce the laws on the books first, else we might think this is yet another political power grab.
“Common sense is not so common.” — Voltaire
stuff them inside a pumpkin and catapult it into the prison yard. Next we'll have ban the sport of Pumpkin chucking to keep prisons safe.
“Common sense is not so common.” — Voltaire
I don't understand. Wouldn't that take a pretty large cannon? It doesn't seem practical.
You voice a valid concern, sir or madam. Summon the chief architect that we may begin drafting trebuchet blueprints posthaste.
I realize it's overkill, but how awesome would a phalanx system be?
If you fry the electronics of a drone, it won't fly so well.
"fully integrated systems that will allow for the detection, tracking, interdiction, engagement and neutralization of small â" less than 55lb â" unmanned aerial system."
Sure no problem, I'm sure that will be a highly successful project. It's good they didn't set an overly ambitious goal. Nothing a few sharks and laser beams couldn't handle. Plenty of cheap prison labor to dig the shark moat.
Prisoners already have a solution involving stuff them inside things.
It's not the prisons are anywhere close to drug/cell phone free.
John McAfee 'It was like that time I hired that Bangkok prostitute; to do my taxes, while I fucked my accountant'
Long range catapult?
The only change that drones give you is range and accuracy, which admittedly is significant, but not a deal breaker.
Geese beware.
I don't know about you, but if I have to visit my buddies in prison and there is a way I can avoid stuffing a bunch of junk up my butt, I think I'd at least consider that option.
“Common sense is not so common.” — Voltaire
Turn it into a free-for-all TV show: "Robot Wars in the sky." It'll be a big hit, I guarantee it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
Yeah, I feel you.
It's got to be a long hard road that makes 'suitcasing' someone's job.
The fact is, I've had neighborhood friends from childhood go to prison, and one 'associate' that still might be going (not sure, we had that 'until this blows over, just leave me alone' talk). I didn't visit. The prospect of the search was enough.
John McAfee 'It was like that time I hired that Bangkok prostitute; to do my taxes, while I fucked my accountant'
This makes no sense to me. Why does our government need Boeing-grade solutions to very simple problems? Can our federal IT department not spend 60 seconds on Google, look up "Drone Jammer", and find this well-documented solution? Why can't they make something like this? FCC? Psh...these are the feds we're talking about. If Stingrays aren't a problem for them, jamming commercial drone frequencies won't be either. Maybe the electrical diagrams too complex for Uncle Sam to know what to do with? Oh, they want to detect them also? Another 60 seconds with "Sonar to detect drones" tells me that our friends across the pond have developed drone sonar for Heathrow. I'm pretty sure we're good friends with the Brits and can figure out how to use this technology in our prisons. Seriously...I've seen high school science fair projects look more complicated than this.
Or maybe I'm not getting the point. Maybe our government just doesn't want to bother coming up with their own solutions. Maybe they just want to throw our tax money away.
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...the manufacturer of some worthless yet insanely expensive anti-drone system which is soon to be implemented in all prisons as mandated by a law sponsored by the senators for whatever state said manufacturer calls home.
A really powerful hair dryer! You're welcome.
Problem solved.
-jcr
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And the arms race begins!
I assume you could load a cartridge (12ga? 10ga?) with a net that is launched at a relatively low velocity. The rest is just a matter of target acquisition and tracking.
Because if I'm right they're going to block the 900Mhz to 2,400MHz band around such facilities. But that will run afoul of the FCC regulations because that big chunk of bandwidth also includes cellular, amateur, and wifi.
Good luck with that.
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Lets light in and keeps the bugs out
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Are you an experimental trolling bot ? If so I'd suggest to your creators that they failed hard.
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Simply cover the exercise yard or any other portion of the prison using chain link as a roof. That way a drone could not hope to deliver much of anything to the prison yards. And if a drone lowered itself enough to carefully pass an item through that ceiling it would make a good test of the guards use of shotguns.
Strange that prison guards don't seem to know about shotguns.
Let's treat this the same way the Government wants to handle citizen gun ownership. Just make the area above and around the prisons a "no fly zone". That'll stop the bad guys from using drones.
It's logical, right? Using their ideas in this situation? And if it doesn't work here, why the hell would it work with "gun free zones"? It can be a teaching moment...
Have the guards spot and shoot any drones they see! It's target practice. I shoot any near my castle!
Self-importance and self-indulgence is the root of ALL evil.
A fire hose spraying diluted Coke syrup ought to do the trick...
Or paintball guns...
Good practice for the guards, too.
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It would be fun, but not very effective.
Radar will be tricky because of, you know, birds. You'd have to be able to distinguish.
Perhaps radar combined with wide-band frequency sniffers to see if any 'birds' are putting out radio signals. Then you could triangulate the drone's operator using sniffers placed in a network covering a few miles around the prison, and send the police after him quickly. Assuming the drone isn't autonomous of course. But I think you could identify a drone, what frequencies it's operating on, and find the pilot hanging out in his van nearby pretty quickly if you set it up right.