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Warmest March In Global Recordkeeping (wunderground.com)
Layzej quotes a report from Weather Underground: March 2016 was by far the planet's warmest March since record keeping began in 1880. In the NOAA database, March 2016 came in a full 1.22C (2.20F) warmer than the 20th-century average for March, as well as 0.32C (0.58F) above the previous record for March, set in 2010. This is a huge margin for breaking a monthly global temperature record, as they are typically broken by just a few hundredths of a degree. Global satellite-measured temperatures also found this March to be the warmest -- the sixth consecutive monthly record in the UAH satellite data set. Gavin Schmidt, the NASA Goddard Institute for Space Studies has estimated that 2016 already has over a 99% chance of being the hottest year on record, based on the first three months alone.
Nobody gives a shit. Not even the people who pretend to.
Maybe those 1880 satellites weren't calibrated as good as they are now?
I hear it's a little cool in the midwest this April.
why is the temperature record significant?
are the specific causes known and how exactly?
if the causes are known was the temperature with accuracy predicted by models when those causes were included? why not?
Those who have money and power believe they can buy their ticket out of this global catastrophe by hiring enough guards (strangely it has almost never worked for them). So, no, contrary to what science calls for, carbon emissions will keep on growing unabated.
Those who have no money, no power and more importantly no life (as it was mentioned previously on ./ the poor have on average a significantly shorter life span) - don't care because they'll long be dead when the earth becomes insanely overpopulated and equally uninhabitable due to major geographical shifts in agriculture and sea level rise.
The future promises to be freaking crazy. No, I meant, ugly and scary. Wars, continued overpopulation, famines, etc.
Honest question.
I ride my bike to work. My house is powered by a solar panel installation. I recycle everything I can, compost a lot of the rest, and generate very little actual garbage. I do have a car but it's rare I actually need to use it.
What exactly am I supposed to do about global warming? Yell at my neighbours because their piece of shit 1970s automobile spews a cloud of toxic black crap every time they pull out of the driveway? Make funny faces at the moron down the street who insists on driving a hummer every time he passes my house? Stand on the side of the road with a sign over my shoulders that says "REPENT, THE END IS NEIGH"?
I'm just one person. Most of my close friends and family are mindful about their impact on the planet just as much as I am. I don't know what we're supposed to do beyond that, though. When I hear shit about the crap places like India and China are pumping into the air, I wonder why the hell I'm bothering in the first place. I suppose 'cause it's the right thing to do, but I don't know how much of a difference a dozen of people could possibly make.
1. March was the highest average on record by 2F, all of which was anthropogenic in origin.
2. March was the highest average on record by 2F, 1F of which was anthropogenic, and 1F was caused by long-standing historical temperature cycles.
3. March was the highest average on record by 2F, all of which was caused by long-standing historical temperature cycles.
What modifications of human industrial/consumption/energy behavior would you recommend for each of these cases, given that which is actually the case is not determinable? Implicit in this is the question of what the "right temperature" would be.
~ Whence do you come, slayer of men, or where are you going, conqueror of space?
How odd.
And also odd is how one idiot claims it's uninteresting (evidently the only thing they have now against reality) and you read out of nowhere how this was satellite data from 1880. Despite no evidence that this was the case.
Are deniers finally running on empty now?
Let's say that it is all natural --- now what? We still don't want all the ice to melt.
Let's say it is "all human". Now what? The governments don't actually do anything.
Why not do something concrete like ban all non-emergency air travel? NO NOES THE INCONVENIENCE!!! Why not ban all government use of jets? Why not ban the use of corporate cars that aren't electric? Why not ban air conditioning?
It isn't really about whether or not something is happening but rather governments never follow through, making the alarmism itself rather pointless.
No one is willing to live up any luxuries, especially the big shots jetting around to these conferences.
That article is TV weather guy 101 and not "Science 101".
I suggest broadening your horizons instead of reguritating over-simplified lies to children.
His error bar bit is about accusing scientists of doing less than high school level science just because they have not included the noise along with data. Of course it's going to cause some angry shouts.
It's like accusing a fully dressed high school student of forgetting to put on their underwear like a toddler just because you can't see it from the outside.
China has committed to reaching to peak CO2 emissions in 2030 ( http://climateactiontracker.or... ) and may have already achieved this a few years back ( https://www.washingtonpost.com... )
India has set the following targets: http://climateactiontracker.or...
When I was little we find a man... like a butcher. The old ones in the village cross themselves and whisper crazy things. 'Demonio, cazador de trofoes...Only the hottest times of the hottest years...' Crazy things...This year is grows hot.
....that many commenters do not have a sound grasp of statistics. nah fuck it .....I cant be bothered telling you about 30 year averages, mathematical modelling, errors etc
Go and sit in your basement and cook/freeze whatever and ignore basic high school physics.
If not, why even bother drawing conclusions? How about you show us the real temperature records instead of the ones that were proved to be manipulated to further a political point?
All of this - media, politicians, greenfreeks and average joes included - sounds like a variation of the movie plot for "Blazing Saddles" to me. Idiots arguing with morons while the psychotic media publishes whatever causes power moms to tear up, politicians pandering to whatever gets pumped into their in-box/septic tank... none of them have the math or science training to even begin to talk coherently about a subject that is rife wth anomalies and quirks in the math/science.
Sorry, I am fed up with stupid, ignorant, crazy, and wrong of any flavor or consistency. From anyone.
The fool says to himself, anthropogenic global climate change is a myth! It could not be that in a balanced system, one in which incoming energy at rate x watts per second times the entire surface area of the world facing the sun, and rate of loss to space ALSO at x watts per second times the same area, changing the atmospheric makeup in such a way that the rate of absorption and dissipation are IMBALANCED could possibly result in an energy imbalance that then results in a new reality in which the whole fucking planet is warmer!
Unless you're reading the NIV, which nearly summarizes the same argument as. "DUUUUUUUUHHHHHHHH..."
Look, dipshit fuckwad gaytards... There are x watts per square foot on average, over any given 24 hour period coming in. When you blast shit into the air, altering the amount of chemicals and particulate which control or regulate how much energy can escape to space, such that retained heat increases, and solar output doesn't magically and conveniently drop to account for the difference, and the Earth doesn't accelerate tangentially to a line drawn in space passing between the sun and Earth, causing the world to spiral AWAY from the sun, the whole goddamned system slowly gets progressively HOTTER, which since the strength and severity of weather events are related to (dependent on,) the amount of heat in the environment...
1. Yes, you ARE causing it.
2. Yes, it IS fucking shit UP.
3. Yes, your denial of responsibility is preventing you from doing what you need to do to slow, stop, or reverse it.
4. No, this isn't a communist conspiracy to damage business, and bring about a "workers' paradise".
5. No, your imaginary friend's supposÃd magical son ISN'T going to show up and fix it all by getting nailed to a tree again, pulling rabits out of a hat, or whatever other magic trick you think he can do!
Pull your stupid fucking heads out of your asses, and smell the reality of your own fat ass frying. That ain't bacon you're smellin', fuckfaces.
Or don't. We're likely too late to be able to do shit. See what's happening in Houston, Texas right now? That shit's coming to your town too. When it does, you can marvel at how wrong you were to question people who're orders of magnitude smarter, better educated, and more qualified to speak to this subject than your retarded asses, as your house burns down or floats away...
I dunno, but March was hella cold and rainy in the area around New York City. The rest of the world doesn't matter. :-p
A bunch of Slashdot posters who.
1. Fancy themselves smarter than everyone else
2. Figure they are climate experts
3. Merely cut and paste from various advocacy websites that support their view
4. Call everyone else stupid or shills.
Truth is .001% of Slashdotters know anything about Climate Science other than the talking points the slavishly cut and paste.
Give me a fucking break. It's a waste of time.
Oh, since "global recordkeeping" huh... Well, since "global" recordkeeping only started about 50 years ago with the first global weather satellites, what we have here is "not a whole lot of data," and certainly not enough to draw any meaningful conclusions, about anything.
These sales pitches grow tiresome to people with more than two brain cells to rub together.
"Warmest year on record!" Well yeah, records only go back 125 years.
"Warmest month in recorded history!" Same...
"Warmest month in GLOBAL recordkeeping!" Same shit.
Let me know when you have something to support your argument other than a weak statistical correlation that requires you massage and discard data to make it fit.
Records is relative, we've been measuring since what, 1880? The earth is how old? 5 billion years give or take. Doh.
nothing to see here - move along
Clinton is a square shooter.
This is mostly a water planet, but I suspect the relatively small land masses have much different ability to capture the sun's heat that the oceans.
So, we have this great big mass of plastic floating in the ocean.
I wonder how it affects the balance of the sun's radiation absorbed versus reflected back to space?
The flux from the sun is continuously measured by satellites.
One thing that we know quite well is that changes in solar output is not the cause of present-day warming.
It could be a factor in past climate variations-- we can't measure solar output very well millions of years ago, or even for that matter hundreds of years ago. But it is measured now, and it's not the cause of warming.
I drive my Ford F-250 crew cab to work alone every day. It's like driving to work in my living room! Only costs me $30 a week to top off.
I know, right? Three years without an ice cap, not a single Seychelles island left, constant category seven hurricanes. The AGW have been making nothing but accurate predictions for decades.
Nobody has made any of those predictions as things that would happen by 2016.
If you want to see what was actually predicted, it's not hard-- the IPCC reports are all available on the web. Here's the 1990 predictions-- twenty six years ago-- for example: http://www.ipcc.ch/publication...
We must start listening to their calls for global economic destruction!
It would be useful if the people who are saying that addressing the problem would result in "global economic destruction" would, rather than attacking the science, instead propose approaches to the question "what are the range of possible options available to us that would not result in global economic destruction?"
I have a car, because I have to drive to work. It's expensive to own a car and I'd rather not, but it's much more expensive to live in the downtown core where my office is, and to have my wife stay home with the kids. Therefore we both work, we live in the burbs, and we drive to work and daycare... like everyone else. Not because we want to, but because we have to.
I heat my house with natural gas and power it from whatever power is on the grid because it's my only option as well. I live in a townhouse and don't think I'd have much success convincing everybody to upgrade their furnace and install solar panels above their unit. I'd love to live in my own detached house with infinite money to customise it for the planet, I simply can't afford to do so.
I recycle as much as I can, even though there's evidence that for many products it costs more energy to recycle than make new, such as with plastic.
This movement wonders why nobody seems to care? We've been berated and guilted with this shit for decades. We are all concerned, but most us are running the hamster wheel, working the wage slave gig, hoping like hell to be able to send our kids to college and scrap together enough money we'll be able to relax a little before we die. So I'm not really surprised when people get a little tired of hearing this shit and make up excuses why not to believe it. You're preaching to the wrong people. Take it to congress, to industry, and to other world leaders... leave us alone.
If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
Here's the Berkeley Earth Surface Temperature record for Los Angeles: berkeleyearth.lbl.gov/locations/34.56N-118.70W
This is slightly more informative view than just comparing two random years, 1921 and 2013. As you can see, a lot of noise in the data (when you average the entire globe, the noise tends to average out. A single location, though, has a lot of variation.) But the trend is up. Looking at the red (ten year average) curve, about 1 degree C of warming from 1921 to 2013.
Nevertheless, do keep this in mind: Los Angeles is not the world.
Nothing you say can be believed. So all of this non-sense is just flushed as BS. Most people here are too young to remember all of the screaming about the "impending Ice Age" from back in the 70's - but no money was to be made with that, so now it's "global warming" - same BS exact opposite reasons given...
And why looking at individual data points can mislead you.
http://cliffmass.blogspot.com/...
...and we also had hundreds of record low temperatures this year. Using the same twisted logic, wouldn't this be further proof that the 18-year cycle of global cooling is continuing?
Face palm.
Being hotter than the AVERAGE does NOT make it the hottest on record. It makes it above the average which means.........absolutely nothing. Now if all the days for the next say 2 years are above the average then that might begin to be interesting, but still might not mean anything statistically.
There needs to be an IQ and educational requirement to be a journalist. (Higher than the very minimal one required now.)
Well, if number 3 is true, it's probably time to consider killing yourself.
That scenario suggests firstly that some undetectable phenomena is driving climate change, and also that some undetectable phenomena is preventing the warming that should have occurred from rising levels of CO2 in the atmosphere. Also, there is a century long conspiracy plot...
Let's stop there and be a little more honest. The GP was more honestly asking what are the unknowns. How much of current warming do we attribute to human activity and how much to natural fluctuations. Are best metric for that are the models, and here's the state of the art from the IPCC's fifth assessment. From Box 9.1:
maintaining the global mean top of the atmosphere (TOA) energy balance in a simulation of pre-industrial climate is essential to prevent the climate system from drifting to an unrealistic state. The models used in this report almost universally contain adjustments to parameters in their treatment of clouds to fulfil this important constraint of the climate system (Watanabe et al., 2010; Donner et al., 2011; Gent et al., 2011; Golaz et al., 2011; Martin et al., 2011; Hazeleger et al., 2012; Mauritsen et al., 2012; Hourdin et al., 2013).
When using the models to hindcast past temperatures, unknowns like clouds drive the energy imbalance into "an unrealistic state". The energy imbalance is the driver of climate change and the models still have to make hand tuned corrections to keep hindcasts realistic.
There's not some undetectable or magical force acting to confound all our current understanding of CO2 impact on recent warming. There IS however a lot we still don't understand properly, enough that the impact of those unknowns drive the models HARDER than the CO2 we've been dumping. Now in all likelyhood the unknowns aren't pushing temperature one way or another, but that's an assumption at this stage(and a reasonable one). However, when tryign to map out the next 100 years and our impact on it, we might want to hold a large caveat on the possibility that the unknowns we are working at are a major factor and most certainly impact our confidence in any projections.
Anyone that studies the graphs of temperature records learns two things; first, temperature records are very noisy and second, the trends revealed by climate science rely on aggressively smoothing these points. This means that even when a strong trend toward higher temperatures is revealed there are always "cold" points adjacent to even the highest peaks in the underlying data.
Yet it seems that we've entered a new world where every year — and now every month — is a new record high. Year after year and now month after month our climatologists claim that this year and this month are hotter than ever before, without fail.
That can't be true. That's not how climate has ever worked. Either we're about to go full Venus in the immediate future because we really are heating the planet so fast that all precedent has been broken and every year really is hotter than all the previous years, or the claims they're making are wrong.
I think it's the latter. I think the process has gotten out of control and everyone involved is now obligated to produce ever more dramatic results knowing that failure to support the narrative will not be rewarded. The longer this continues the greater the gap between reality and the headlines will grow until it becomes painfully obvious that the narrative is wrong.
Why Fahrenheit is For People. And cats.
Celsius 0:Cold 25:Warm 50:Dead 75:Dead 100:Dead
Fahrenheit 0:Really Cold 25:Cold 50:Meh 75:Warm 100:Really Hot
Kelvin 0:Dead 25:Dead 50:Dead 75:Dead 100:Dead
Rankine 0:Dead 25:Dead 50:Dead 75:Dead 100:Dead
Réaumur 0:Cold 25:Hot 50:Dead 75:Dead 100:Dead
Also, look. At -40C, it's actually -40F. Isn't that cute? Celsius trying to be reasonable, and all. Sorry, Celsius. Too low, too late. Back across the pond with you.
I've fallen off your lawn, and I can't get up.
We know there is skewed data from sources in and near large cities, concrete and asphalt. Some scientists say this is not an issue while other scientists (the oppressed scientists) claim their data showing skewed data is real. Also many, many meteorologists frequently talk about increased temps in those instances as well.
NOAA, NASA and AMOS need to quit misleading everyone. Yes we know this is part of big push to create and prop up new revenue sources for the global economy but, honestly, we would still be on board with going green if the massive fraud would not be happening.
100C: Water boils (at sea level mean pressure)
0C: Water freezes.
Nice if you're doing thermodynamics, and 0C is nice if you're worried about that bridge freezing up as you're driving (but 32F isn't THAT hard to remeber).
100F: Internal body temperature of wakeful adult
0F: Melting point of salted ice.
As ambient temperatures go from somewhat below 100F to 100F exertion in the open rapidly becomes dangerous. As it approaches and crosses it, the body becomes dependent on evaporation for cooling and staying hydrated becomes life-critical.
As ambient temperatures drop below zero degrees, salt stops melting ice on highways. Driving becomes extremely trecherous as falling snow is pressure-melted into patches of glossy ice that can't be removed effectively.
Both are occasional, but life-threatening, events. It's nice that the F scale has round numbers to make them easy to remember and likely to be noticed when they occur.
Bantam Dominique roosters crow a four-note song. Once you've heard it as "Happy BIRTHday" you can't NOT hear it that way
Slashdot is such a shill for the global warming bankers who want to tax your personal carbon footprint. Exhale C02? Enjoy your tax!
Instead of unbearable heat and apocalyptic freezing, Americans are actually experiencing ideal weather conditions thanks to climate change: milder winters, with only small increases in summer humidity. 80 percent of the US population is experiencing better weather than it did 40 years ago
I'LL HAV 2 GET A SUN TAN!
Choose any 10 cities in the world. Now go and look at a temperature plot for each. Now notice that there is very little, if any, warming.
Congratulations, you are still a loser, cause no one wins.
"Outside its borders?"
Yes. Those are the parts that aren't inside its borders.
In my area, on hot days, my 3 thermometors (outside, in comlete shade, hung in a tree in well ventilated area) so often read a few degrees above the official figure for that time of day. On the chance that this trend is widespread, what effect could this have on the overal numbers? Does anyone else have this (seemingly) happen in their area?
Is 136 years a long time in terms of the climate or is it possible that we are just seeing a part of a cycle?
"Gavin Schmidt, the NASA Goddard Institute for Space Studies has estimated that 2016 already has over a 99% chance of being the hottest year on record, based on the first three months alone." And when this GUESS is Wrong will he get any bad outcomes? Lose his job? Put out a press release to announce he screwed the pooch? I think not. The lies never stop.
"Global Warming is a hoax perpetuated by the Democrats" - My Stepdad.
Let's all move to Mars. It's much cooler and there is less of an environment to destroy. If we send the right signals, maybe they'll send a spaceship down to get us.
Don't worry, the record will be broken again in a year or two.
Birds are not dinosaur descendants;birds are dinosaurs, for all useful meanings of "birds", "are" and "dinosaurs"