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Dyson Launches New 'Supersonic' Hair Dryer To Revolutionize Hair Care (nbcnews.com)

An anonymous reader writes: Dyson has a launched a hair dryer with a design language similar to that of its bladeless fans. The $399 hair dryer is four years in the making, involving 103 engineers, over 1,000 miles of test hair, and a $71 million investment -- the Dyson Supersonic is being touted as "the hairdryer rethought" by its inventor Sir James Dyson. "We realized that hair dryers can cause extreme heat damage to hair," said Dyson in a press release. "So I challenged Dyson engineers to really understand the science of hair and develop our version of a hair dryer, which we think solves these problems." The hair dryer can be reserved online and will be sold exclusively at Sephora for $399 this fall.

228 comments

  1. So Dyson... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    is essentially the Apple of mid-sized household appliances?

    1. Re: So Dyson... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, more crap for people with too much disposable income.

    2. Re: So Dyson... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Apparently they have a "thing" for household devices that either suck or blow (vacuums, hand dryers, hair dryers). My prediction is they'll soon have a $300 air compressor that will inflate a car tire in just a few seconds.

      Or how about a Dyson convention oven that'll bake a frozen turkey in 5 minutes? Only six easy payments of $199.99

    3. Re: So Dyson... by Finallyjoined!!! · · Score: 3, Funny

      "convention oven"? - Presumably it only works if there's more than 3 delegates......

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    4. Re: So Dyson... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "convention oven"? - Presumably it only works if there's more than 3 delegates......

      Hitler was thinking along those lines.

    5. Re: So Dyson... by Joce640k · · Score: 2

      They're not even better.

      I had a Dyson vacuum cleaner for about a week before I threw it in the trash. Bagless vacuum cleaners are CRAP.

      Their bladeless fans are noisy as hell.

      etc. etc.

      All design and no function. Perfect for hipsters.

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    6. Re:So Dyson... by nukenerd · · Score: 2

      More shit from Dyson.

      I'd never heard of his "bladeless fans" so I followed the link. In fact his fan does have blades; it is just that they are hidden in a duct. Pity someone does not do him under the [UK] Trade Description Act.

      Dyson is a PoS personally - my wife has dealt with him on the phone (her company supplies his with parts) and he really is quite different from his cuddly public image.

    7. Re: So Dyson... by nukenerd · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I had a Dyson vacuum cleaner for about a week before I threw it in the trash. Bagless vacuum cleaners are CRAP.

      Around 1960 my mother had an original Hoover Junior with just a cloth bag. When you emptied it, shaking it over the dustbin (US trashcan) you were lucky if half the crap inside didn't end up over yourself, especially if there was a bit of wind about. Emptying it was my job.

      Then disposable paper bags for cleaners were invented. It was brilliant! No more shaking and beating the cloth bag and getting covered in it.

      Then Dyson comes along and uninvents the disposable bag, and people lap it up, Dyson becomes a folk hero. WTF?

      Anyway, what's the point of a cleaner with a transparent dirt container? When I use a vacuum cleaner it is because I don't want to see it any more, not to exhibit it in a "glass" case.

    8. Re: So Dyson... by nukenerd · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Apparently they have a "thing" for household devices that either suck or blow

      His first "invention" was a wheelbarrow with a ball on a spindle instead of a wheel, the "Ballbarrow". [He claimed that it could go round corners better because it could be tilted over - never mind that the rounded tyre of a traditional barrow already allows it]. He continues this ball theme with his vacuum cleaners. His thing is about balls rather than sucking.

      I've just checked his history on Wikipedia. His college education was in art, not engineering. That explains a lot, including the pseudo-technical Lego-coloured plastic protrusions on his shit.

    9. Re: So Dyson... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's so guests know how much filth was swept up before their arrival. It lets them know you care.

    10. Re: So Dyson... by jellomizer · · Score: 1

      "I had a Dyson vacuum cleaner for about a week before I threw it in the trash."
      Sounds rather wasteful. Perhaps you should have returned it to the store it should be under warranty. There are the occasional faulty product.
      Or you could had sold it with eBay or Craigslist?

      I have one and no complains. It is the longest lasting vacuum that I owned so far.

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    11. Re: So Dyson... by jellomizer · · Score: 2

      The cloth bag got you dirty because most of the material stuck to the bag.
      On the Bagless systems it is contained in a hard plastic shell. That slides out without the need of a bunch of shaking.

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    12. Re: So Dyson... by pchasco · · Score: 2

      A few years ago my sister was shopping. For a vacuum and had her eyes on a Dyson. Being the helpful brother that I am, and also having a subscription to consumer reports, I looked up the ratings on upright vacuum cleaners and shared them with her. The Dyson she was interested in wasn't even near the top of the best performing vacuums. The best performing vacuum scored over 20 points higher on a 100 point scale, and was 25% the cost. After taking a look at the reviews, her response was somethin like but not verbatim: "Yeah... I think I just want the Dyson."

    13. Re: So Dyson... by jcr · · Score: 1

      I've got a Dyson vacuum, and it's been working fine for me for about five years now. I've also got one of their fans, and it's quieter than any conventional fan I ever used.

      -jcr

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    14. Re: So Dyson... by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      Anyway, what's the point of a cleaner with a transparent dirt container?

      The vac only works correctly up until the container is full to the line. They make it transparent so that you can clearly see how full it is, and so that you can see if you've vac'd up anything important and/or valuable. When you're done using it, you can empty it if you don't want to look at the dirt.

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    15. Re: So Dyson... by ColdWetDog · · Score: 0, Troll

      You realize that Consumer Reports is pseudoscientific nonsense. They compare models that are outdated or unavailable. They more or less randomly make up criteria with a heavy bias to the Northeast US corridor's idea of a good time.

      You're better off using Amazon's recommendations.

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    16. Re: So Dyson... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So perfect for Trump then ?

    17. Re: So Dyson... by JDHannan · · Score: 2

      It's so you can see when to empty it. The fuller the container gets, the less well it works

    18. Re: So Dyson... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ignore them. They're full of jealous shit.

    19. Re: So Dyson... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sure you did. You threw a $400 vacuum cleaner you just bought in the trash... ...and I'm the king of fucking Siam!

    20. Re: So Dyson... by beastofburdon · · Score: 1

      Then Dyson comes along and uninvents the disposable bag, and people lap it up, Dyson becomes a folk hero. WTF?

      There is no shortage of complete idiots. They are the majority in the first place and they breed at a much higher rate.

    21. Re: So Dyson... by samwichse · · Score: 1

      Because there's a trigger release at the top and sides are slippery plastic?

      I just walk out to the bin, stick the end of the dust container down in the trash, and pull the trigger. When I lift it up all the dust (or dog hair, which is what 90% is) stays in the bin and the vacuum's dust container comes out empty. Then I just push it against the ground and it's closed up and ready to use.

      Not sure where the problem is, or where you get dirty in that process.

      Sam

    22. Re: So Dyson... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He's supposed to be the idea man, he has shit loads of engineers and actually does R&D. I respect him a lot more than Jobs and Apple.

      My boss graduated University in English literature or something. He knows more RF and engineering than graduates of Engineering.

      All my best math teachers were always History majors and knew shit loads more than my teachers who did math and physics at University.

      There's a few high quality people I know who I think can pick up a new topic and be a rock star in no time.

  2. A towel and the Sun by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    I just saved you 400 dollars.

    1. Re:A towel and the Sun by Dutch+Gun · · Score: 4, Informative

      People with short hair (i.e. most guys) tend to discount the utility of a hair dryer, but if you or your significant other has long hair, you know it's not really optional. Long hair takes an annoyingly long time to dry on its own, even after using a towel. That being said, the $15 model seemed to work just fine for its intended purpose.

      Also, what is this "sun" you speak of? I live in Seattle, you insensitive clod.

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    2. Re:A towel and the Sun by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm a long haired guy, have been so for decades, and never ever found the need to use a hair dryer. I just don't see the point at all. It causes my hair to frizz excessively, become tangled and uncombable as well. So I guess I have to (gasp) wait for a few hours untill my hair is absolutely dry.

    3. Re:A towel and the Sun by fnj · · Score: 4, Funny

      Also, what is this "sun" you speak of? I live in Seattle

      You might want to consider moving to a location suitable for human habitation.

    4. Re: A towel and the Sun by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      move to finland. having the hair freeze on the way to school sucked biiig time.

    5. Re:A towel and the Sun by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Typical fail-forward-CEO-in-training. Completely misunderstanding the market, then blaming the consumer.

    6. Re:A towel and the Sun by Fragnet · · Score: 4, Informative

      I have short hair but use my hair dryer to dry my body after a shower. Towels are damp, obviously.

    7. Re:A towel and the Sun by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      well, a towel is about the most massively useful thing you can have....

    8. Re:A towel and the Sun by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I've had my hair long enough to accidently sit on but never bothered with a hair dryer. It stays wet, I don't really care. Then again it might be different if I long in a colder climate.

    9. Re:A towel and the Sun by Nite_Hawk · · Score: 1

      Here in Minnesota we use hair dryers to stay warm!

    10. Re:A towel and the Sun by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      As a guy who has had long hair (lower back long, not just shoulder long) for around 25 years in a country with very little sun, I can discard this as nonsense. Maybe you shouldn't believe everything your gf tells you. A towel is all you need, and a hair dryer will ruin your hair. The trick is not to brush it directly after toweling. Brushing/combing will layer the hair, effectively removing the air from between the strands. Towel your hair, have your breakfast, then brush and comb it. It really doesn't take more than about 15 minutes after toweling to be dry enough to go out.

    11. Re:A towel and the Sun by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      If I had much hair I might be tempted by this. Dyson stuff is expensive, but it lasts and it is often way, way better than the competition. I have one of their cordless stick vacuum cleaners and cleans better than any other vacuum I have ever seen. It's made a massive difference to my allergies, and I upgraded from a top of the range Miele and an older Dyson cylinder.

      Like everything, you have to evaluate it based on utility * (cost / expected lifespan). For me the price of breathing easily made the vacuum an absolute bargain.

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    12. Re:A towel and the Sun by Hodr · · Score: 1

      I have a portable de-humidifier in the washroom. I told my wife it was to prevent mold growth, but really it's so I can stand over it after a shower and dry my naughty bits whilst shaving.

    13. Re:A towel and the Sun by nukenerd · · Score: 1

      I use an electric floor-standing-type fan heater (but on a stool) and more-or-less hang my head upside down in front of it. Fast, but you need to keep moving your head or you will singe. Hair driers seem very feeble by comparison and only dry one patch of hair at a time.

    14. Re:A towel and the Sun by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Shaving your naughty bits, shaving your wife, or shaving your beard ... ?
      Enquiring minds wish to know!

    15. Re:A towel and the Sun by pr0fessor · · Score: 1

      I'm a long hair guy...

      I rarely use the hair dryer because heat and if you put it on high wind damage... if I do use a hair dryer I also use a heat protecting leaving in conditioner like Matrix Biolage blue agave which is kind of expensive but most of the time I use a turbie twist which is just a towel designed to make it easy to wrap your hair.

    16. Re:A towel and the Sun by dunkelfalke · · Score: 1

      I am a guy, I have long hair and I use a hairdryer only for opening cellphones that are glued together. Yes, the hair takes a few hours to dry but the results are much better.

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    17. Re:A towel and the Sun by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      He did say "suitable for human habitation," not "Minnesota."

    18. Re:A towel and the Sun by mjwx · · Score: 1

      Also, what is this "sun" you speak of? I live in Seattle, you insensitive clod.

      Seattle, you mean a tropical paradise.

      Signed,
      A Londoner.

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    19. Re:A towel and the Sun by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're me. High five!

    20. Re:A towel and the Sun by ColdWetDog · · Score: 1

      Slashdot. Tech, politics, commentary.

      Personal beauty products.

      Oh, how far this site has fallen.......

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    21. Re:A towel and the Sun by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      One of the features of the Dyson model is an electronically controlled air temperature to keep it from getting so hot as to damage your hair.

      Not saying it's worth $400 but it's a nice touch.

    22. Re:A towel and the Sun by ripvlan · · Score: 2

      I know - $400 for a hair dryer?

      They also make these incredibly expensive room fans. $400+ for a Fan!!! a Fan!! that blows air on you.

      Boy they sure are experts at moving air around... and now they can blow Hot Air too !!!

    23. Re:A towel and the Sun by ColdWetDog · · Score: 1

      With enough caffeine, anything is possible.

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    24. Re:A towel and the Sun by pr0fessor · · Score: 1

      My wife frequently describes me as nerdy, etc... When people actually meet me I'm never what they expect because I work with computers but I'm not just interested in computers. I'm interested in just about any technology used in my day to day life so I can talk about hair dryers, electric razors, vacuums, blenders, coffee makers, microwaves, etc... however if I had short or no hair I probably wouldn't have taken the time to rtfa.

    25. Re:A towel and the Sun by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Also, what is this "sun" you speak of? I live in Seattle, you insensitive clod.

      The sun is what comes out for 3 months during that blissful time known as summer here. during all other times, what are you doing drying your hair. it's just going to stay wet for the other 9 months.

    26. Re:A towel and the Sun by antdude · · Score: 1

      What if it is at night time, cloudy, etc.?

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    27. Re: A towel and the Sun by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That sounds like you have a man bun. Eww

  3. Did have one question on this. by will_die · · Score: 1

    When testing hair dryers why do you use miles of hair vs pounds of hair?

    1. Re:Did have one question on this. by dsmatthews9379 · · Score: 2

      Either way it is an strange metric as a single average long haired person has over 10 miles of hair on their head, so all they did is test it once on each of their 103 engineers, who are very hairy? Perhaps something along the lines of "X standard hair drying sessions" would be more meaningful and would require less research and maths to understand?

    2. Re:Did have one question on this. by guises · · Score: 1

      Larger number. One mile of hair weighs less than a pound. (I assume, I don't actually know.) Surprised they didn't use kilometers though.

    3. Re:Did have one question on this. by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      When testing hair dryers why do you use miles of hair vs pounds of hair?

      I prefer my products to be measured in kilojoules of marketing.

    4. Re:Did have one question on this. by fahrbot-bot · · Score: 1

      When testing hair dryers why do you use miles of hair vs pounds of hair?

      Because the conversion to Library of Congresses of hair is a bit tricky.

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    5. Re:Did have one question on this. by Quirkz · · Score: 1

      The only unit I respect is kiloton per fortnight.

  4. He's just trolling us now.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If I HAD hair, I'd wait for the Dirt Devil knockoff.

  5. Unintended Consequences by Ydna · · Score: 4, Funny

    Please do not put your dick into the Dyson Supersonic.

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    1. Re:Unintended Consequences by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If I pay $400 for a hair dryer I better be able to do what I want!

    2. Re:Unintended Consequences by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      She's gone from suck to blow!

    3. Re:Unintended Consequences by kmahan · · Score: 2

      Proper hairdryer -- https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

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    4. Re:Unintended Consequences by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It will rip you off, like all other Dyson brand products.

    5. Re:Unintended Consequences by tburkhol · · Score: 1

      Funny, but it's a well known issue, going back decades, especially with old Hoover "Dustette" hand-helds. I had a college prof use it as an object lesson in designing for safety in off-label applications.

    6. Re:Unintended Consequences by Agripa · · Score: 1
    7. Re:Unintended Consequences by martinfb · · Score: 1

      Why? What happened when you did?

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  6. Supersonic? by sjames · · Score: 4, Funny

    Well, I suppose blowing all your hair off of your head does simplify styling...

    1. Re:Supersonic? by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      It seems like supersonic should be the right word in this case. You have sub-sonic for sounds that are too low frequency to be audible, so the opposite should be super-sonic for things too high pitch to hear. The Dyson motor in this thing is designed to produce most of its noise above the threshold of human hearing, so it seems quiet.

      Hopefully they tested it with dogs and cats too...

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    2. Re:Supersonic? by sjames · · Score: 1

      I wonder if it might attract curious bats?

      One hopes it doesn't drive dogs to attack it. I suppose we'll see.

    3. Re:Supersonic? by Godwin+O'Hitler · · Score: 1

      I think we already have ultrasonic for that. So by the same token subsonic shoud be infrasonic. There again we do have infrastructure and superstructure.

      I give in.

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    4. Re:Supersonic? by Bob+the+Super+Hamste · · Score: 1

      So if you you have a cat or dog it will now go and hide under a bead and shit on the carpet when you turn this thing on.

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    5. Re:Supersonic? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, we have infra- and ultra-sonic to denote sound frequencies too low and high to hear. Sub- and super-sonic denote speeds. Let's not encourage the mixing of terms.

    6. Re:Supersonic? by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      So if you you have a cat or dog it will now go and hide under a bead

      I don't go in for jewellery much.

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  7. For wealthy Australians only by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    For Australians, by the time we factor in the exchange rate and the "Australia Tax" multiplier, one of those fancy blowers could end up costing us anything up to a grand.

    1. Re:For wealthy Australians only by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And then someone is still going to end up in hospital having it cut off after getting drunk and trying to have sex with it.

    2. Re: For wealthy Australians only by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A grand? That's Myer's discount prices

  8. Scam by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I've been using a hair dryer for years and somehow never received extreme damage to my hair.

    This "supersonic clean" product smells like those "ion clean" and "nano clean" BS product descriptions so popular in the beauty marketing industry. Except this one costs 10 times as much as an honest hair dryer.

  9. What about the buffeting? by mark_reh · · Score: 0

    I don't like buffeting produced by 13 blades spinning at 100k rpm. It doesn't feel a warm summer breeze. You call this is an advance?

    It's a marketing breakthrough!

    1. Re:What about the buffeting? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A warm summer breeze would take quite a long time to dry your hair, particularly if you have long hair.

    2. Re:What about the buffeting? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not if it's hot enough...

      That's why I prefer to dry my heads in a convection oven.

    3. Re:What about the buffeting? by fustakrakich · · Score: 1

      100K. That's gotta be loud.

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    4. Re:What about the buffeting? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      100K. That's gotta be loud.

      It's loud if you're a dog. That frequency is out of the range of human hearing.

    5. Re:What about the buffeting? by fustakrakich · · Score: 1

      It might not be audible, but the db level can still cause damage. Somebody should measure it to confirm.

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  10. Does it lose suction over time? by thinkwaitfast · · Score: 1

    And how do you need 103 engineers for a hair dryer? I've done medium large projects for satellites with a dozen or so people and lots of computers and machines with blinky lights.

    1. Re:Does it lose suction over time? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I guess Dyson doesn't have blinky lights.

    2. Re:Does it lose suction over time? by Barlo_Mung_42 · · Score: 1

      Sure they do. That's want 63 of the engineers are working on.

    3. Re:Does it lose suction over time? by Rosco+P.+Coltrane · · Score: 2

      And how do you need 103 engineers for a hair dryer? I've done medium large projects for satellites with a dozen or so people and lots of computers and machines with blinky lights.

      Ask yourself, what's harder: designing or satellite or creating a Donald Trump do? Do an FMEA analysis on both systems, and 103 engineers suddenly don't seem too many for the latter.

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    4. Re: Does it lose suction over time? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Maybe it's like when a movie script has 15 writers, they all weren't working on it at the same time.

      The first 5 were fired cuz the plot sucked, then the next 5 were brought in to rescue it, then they were fired, so...

    5. Re:Does it lose suction over time? by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      1 engineer to copy some patent.
      2 engineers to reverse engineer the design.
      100 engineers to make subtle changes so it can be re-patented as a Dyson "invention"

    6. Re:Does it lose suction over time? by serviscope_minor · · Score: 3, Informative

      And how do you need 103 engineers for a hair dryer? I've done medium large projects for satellites with a dozen or so people and lots of computers and machines with blinky lights.

      Two questions, how different from your satellite are other, previous satellites? And second question, how many are you making?

      The the last number is "fucktons" or the metric equivalent (fucktonnes?), then that can eat up a lot of engineers. As I've revcently discovered design for manufacture is *HARD*, harder IME than weight shaving. Once you've got your basic design up and running and working, you then need to go over it again and again and again ad nauseum so that it (a) looks cool, (b) is as cheap as possible to manufacture as possible and (c) lasts long enough.

      Those can eat up aprbitarily large amounts of time.

      Also you're trying to volume source the cheapest servicable stuff you can find for motors and things, whereas I assume for a satellite, you're using small volumes of high quality stuff from onlt the mose reputable manufacturers. Dealing with that can also add lots of time and manpower requirements because it frankly often doesn't meet the specs (if it even has any beyond some estimated guesses of the simplest performance parameters), and can require a lot of iteration to get right.

      Just because consumer products are cheap to make and often quite simple, don't dismiss them as easy to design. Getting them to be that cheap and simple is actually rather hard.

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    7. Re:Does it lose suction over time? by ctrl-alt-canc · · Score: 1

      > And how do you need 103 engineers for a hair dryer?

      Hint: do you remember the joke about how many engineers does it take to replace a light bulb ?

    8. Re:Does it lose suction over time? by sunking2 · · Score: 1

      They're called project engineers.

    9. Re:Does it lose suction over time? by mjwx · · Score: 1

      The the last number is "fucktons" or the metric equivalent (fucktonnes?),

      Just for everyone playing along at home, a metric fuckton is approximately 2.3 imperial shitloads (British) or 3.1 fucktonnes (US Customary).

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    10. Re:Does it lose suction over time? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      From your typing, it looks like your keyboard, or maybe your fingers, were made from "the cheapest servicable stuff you can find"!

    11. Re:Does it lose suction over time? by serviscope_minor · · Score: 1

      Keyboard.

      Think original eee 900 still not replaced.

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    12. Re:Does it lose suction over time? by thinkwaitfast · · Score: 1

      At $200,000USD each (company cost, not salary), that's $20M. I guess they'll only have to sell 50,000 dryers to recoup the NRE costs.

  11. I just cut my hair short. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Problem solved.

  12. 1000's of miles of test hair? by idbeholda · · Score: 1

    Hopefully, they had enough conditioner at hand to fix all of the split ends.

  13. Slashvertisement? by rsilvergun · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It's so brazen I almost think it's not. They usually try to hide them a _little_ bit... I mean, I don't even... I mean... come on.

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    1. Re:Slashvertisement? by jasno · · Score: 1

      I doubt very many /.ers are stupid enough to run out and buy a Dyson... ...and it's a crowd that likely isn't very Dyson(i.e. gimmick) friendly.

      If it's a /.vertisement, it's money poorly spent.

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    2. Re: Slashvertisement? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm leaning towards some fan boy is drooling over the robotics in the fan production video.

      Q

  14. Dyson = solving created problems by QuietLagoon · · Score: 2
    It appears to me that Dyson's marketing strategy consists of creating a problem out of thin air, then solving that problem with over-priced commodity goods.

    .
    A friggin' $400 hair dryer? Wow, just wow.

    1. Re:Dyson = solving created problems by markus · · Score: 1

      Most of their vacuums are pretty good. In fact, a huge step up from the non-Dyson models that we used to own. We now have two Dyson vacuums, a bigger conventional model, and the small battery-powered one. The latter gets used several times a day. Quite happy with that; I never before had even seen a battery powered vacuum that wasn't just a bad joke.

      As for the hand dryer. Yeah, I agree with you. It's a solution in search of a problem. It just slings bacteria all over the place and doesn't even work all that much better than other commercial hand dryers. I much prefer paper towels. So much more sanitary and easier to use.

      Fancy new hair dryer? Hmm, I'll wait until it sells at Costco for a discount and then ask around what other reviewers think. As you said, it's a commodity item.

    2. Re:Dyson = solving created problems by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Clearly you've never owned a Dyson vac. They're not a successful business because they sell over-priced commodity goods...

    3. Re:Dyson = solving created problems by Incadenza · · Score: 2

      I much prefer paper towels. So much more sanitary and easier to use.

      Just make sure you are using them the right way.

    4. Re:Dyson = solving created problems by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, they are. What arguments are there to pick a more expensive Dyson vacuum cleaner over a Bosch that uses the same principle, but will likely last for a lifetime? Dyson just has very good marketing.

    5. Re:Dyson = solving created problems by Bob+the+Super+Hamste · · Score: 1

      I'll just stick to my Kerby vacuum. A good strong efficient motor that when a kid decides he is going to show you be leaving marbles out after you told him to pick them up several times because you were going to vacuum will not only suck them up but will shatter them and be no worse for wear. I am amazed at what that thing can eat and not clog on and what it will suck up that is near by. I think it probably produces better suction than my shop vac and is about as hard to clog.

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    6. Re:Dyson = solving created problems by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Most of their vacuums are pretty good. In fact, a huge step up from the non-Dyson models that we used to own.

      They're really not, though. Just go to any vacuum cleaner store, and ask for their opinion. They will tell you "Yeah we carry Dyson because people ask for them, but if you really want a good vacuum cleaner you should buy ______." In my case, it's a Miele.

  15. Aren't Supersonic Things a Bit Loud? by Pauldow · · Score: 1

    I've heard sonic booms from things moving at supersonic speed. I don't think I want that in my bathroom

    1. Re:Aren't Supersonic Things a Bit Loud? by xvan · · Score: 4, Funny

      This is hair dryer is as supersonic as many times as their air multiplier multiplies air.

  16. I bet it works better ... by davidwr · · Score: 5, Funny

    ... if you use Monster (TM) power cables.

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  17. Aiming for the wrong end. by John.Banister · · Score: 2

    Dyson needs to make an air knife (pair) that quickly shaves off 85% of the water left by those fancy butt washing toilet seats. I think he could do it with less than half the resources he put into this project.

    1. Re:Aiming for the wrong end. by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      Toto already make something like that. It has air drying built in, although it's not very powerful. It has a deodorizer as well so it doesn't blow the smell back out into the room.

      I wish they sold more of their products in the west. Panasonic make a toilet that you put detergent in and it disinfects itself after every use, but somehow still saves water. The resulting foam in the little pool of water left in the bowl then reduces splash-back.

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    2. Re:Aiming for the wrong end. by John.Banister · · Score: 1

      The built-in air drying tries to achieve dryness through gentle evaporation using the warm air. This might do the job for the 15% that's left after an air knife scrapes off the first 85%, but it's way too slow to handle 100% of the initial left-over water.

  18. Meh, I tried it... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    ... it blows.

  19. Dyson is crap by Sam36 · · Score: 1

    Its all crap. Don't by anything they make. Only lasts a year and when it breaks there are not replaceable parts. Still using my 1986 rainbow vacuum I bought for $250 from ebay.

    1. Re: Dyson is crap by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Funny, I have a dyson and it disassembles fully. I was also provided with an itemised parts list and order form to buy each replacement part seperately. Look, I understand from reading the comments on this story that US people dont like dyson. At least try to make an effort at reality, though. Basically all I see is the usual redneck xenophobic shtick.

    2. Re: Dyson is crap by Fragnet · · Score: 2

      "not made here" syndrome. I've got 2 Dyson products and they're both great.

    3. Re: Dyson is crap by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I treat domestic items like absolute crap - my dyson animal has all kinds of sticky shit on it, some cracks where it went down 3 floors via a push down the stairs and hot glue up the hose to repair dog bites. 6 years old, zero parts bought. Clear the filter from time to time maybe but that's it.

    4. Re: Dyson is crap by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      Also, if you've ever used a Rainbow vac you'd know they are shit. They are bagless and filterless, but they are full of water which means they're harder to deal with overall than a Dyson. They also don't get the air as clean as a Dyson with a HEPA filter!

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    5. Re: Dyson is crap by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Did you apply for the proper fire permits before bringing that massive strawman?

    6. Re: Dyson is crap by Agent0013 · · Score: 1

      They are really great when they are new. Once the rubber gasket seals between the parts no longer make contact with the mating surface, they loose suction. So unless you are going to replace every part on the vacuum every year or two it does not work so well.

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    7. Re: Dyson is crap by wyHunter · · Score: 1

      I'm from the US, but don't own a Dyson vac, I own a Miele vac that I bought before Dyson's came out. I have a Miele oven, an Asko washer and dryer, as well as numerous US based stuff. Some of us aren't xenophobes, though I probably count as 'redneck.'

    8. Re: Dyson is crap by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Except as those parts are non moving they dont really wear out. Fully working ancient DC02, covered in dirt and crap but still working at full strength. More made up hate from camp redneck.

    9. Re: Dyson is crap by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It is of course just a cliched stereotype. However, each society has its own "in general" views and behaviours, and one common perception of the US is that it is generally xenophobic. Probably a view shared by most nations of each other.

  20. Hurry up, Dyson. by suupaabaka · · Score: 5, Funny

    You keep making this crap, and we're waiting on a Sphere. Talk to the other guy.

  21. A bit more thought and passion in products please by seoras · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I've tried to stick to the principle of not buying the cheapest option as it a) never lasts b) does a piss poor job
    There's also the c) can be dangerous
    Hair dryers are a good example of dangerous. I know of a couple of homes that have burned to the ground due to a cheap hair dryer.
    I recently bought another blender for making soups, curry sauces etc. The previous one I had melted and smoked in front of me. It was cheap.
    While searching online for a replacement I discovered an alarming large number food blenders smoking or bursting into flames in product reviews.
    So I found one which cost 10x what I paid for my previous one and it's superb. It works so much better, it's quiet, it looks beautiful and I'm sure it'll last for years.

    Why is it when someone actually goes to extreme lengths to try and design the best possible product instead of trying to make the cheapest product possible with no effort to make it any good, reliable or safe everyone puts them down?
    I don't get it?
    I wouldn't buy Dyson's, or anyone else's, hairdryer but I admire him for being a self made man who got there because of his innovation and design.
    I'm willing to pay extra for a well designed product that has had a bit of thought and passion put into it.

  22. Bladeless Fan? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Isn't that called a towel?

  23. Airblades are horrible! by TheSync · · Score: 1

    You know what is the worst? When you are in a public bathroom and have to use a Dyson Airblade Hand Dryer, because your hands inevitably end up touching the yellow part where everyone else's hands have inevitably ended up touching, yuck, and besides the thing never seems to dry your hands fully.

    You know what is the best? The XLERATOR which is like putting your hands around the back end of a jet engine, totally dry in under 10 seconds.

    1. Re:Airblades are horrible! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Looks like Xlerators are Made in the USA. 'Merica, Fuck Yeah!

    2. Re:Airblades are horrible! by SpinyManiac · · Score: 1

      Speaking as a Brit, Xlerators are better than Dyson Airblades and I don't give a damn where they're made.

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    3. Re:Airblades are horrible! by NotAPK · · Score: 1

      I second this, the Xlererator is simply the best design.

      I don't care if others copy it, but what they want to do is have a fast air flow through a nozzle around 6-8cm across. It works.

    4. Re:Airblades are horrible! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Until you try eating in a restaurant that has these and conversation has to stop every time someone dries their hands.

    5. Re:Airblades are horrible! by bleh-of-the-huns · · Score: 1

      The XLERATOR's terrify my 3 year old.. They are super loud.. then again.. most hand dryers scare him.. yet he has no problem with vacuum cleaners... (he likes to push them around).

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    6. Re:Airblades are horrible! by wyHunter · · Score: 1

      Why are folks eating in the toilet?

  24. Don't be fooled by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Its just a Suck Cut with the blades removed.

  25. Should read... by BigU+03C0mpin · · Score: 1

    Dyson builds yet another product that 98% of the world will never buy.

    1. Re:Should read... by Leuf · · Score: 1

      If 2% of the world buys it that's $56.8 billion.

    2. Re:Should read... by BigU+03C0mpin · · Score: 1

      So sue me for being too lazy to really fine tune the math.

  26. Strange, yes. Metric, no. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Miles and pounds are not metric. Just in case you didn't know that.

    On another note, this slashvertisement isn't for the usual evil irresponsible megacorp for once, so that's a nice change of pace.

    1. Re: Strange, yes. Metric, no. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Metric has more than one meaning...

    2. Re:Strange, yes. Metric, no. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There are times when I really wish I could put the Picard facepalm "rage face" in a reply.

  27. James Dyson is not Clive Sinclair by macraig · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Dyson's designs are only revolutionary from the manufacturer's point of view. I own one of his designs from the core vacuum product line; from a user standpoint it's VERY ineffective and irritating to use. Never again, for me. From the manufacturer's POV, however, the modular construction is both cheaper to produce and also cheaper to maintain and service.

    Dyson's revolutionary designs benefit Dyson. Period. Don't be fooled by the marketing hype that turns design flaws from the user perspective into false benefits. That ability to portray a sow's ear as a silk purse is Dyson's real revolutionary accomplishment.

    1. Re:James Dyson is not Clive Sinclair by BigU+03C0mpin · · Score: 1

      That ability to portray a sow's ear as a silk purse is Dyson's real revolutionary accomplishment.

      So basically they're the Apple of the home appliance world?

    2. Re:James Dyson is not Clive Sinclair by GrahamCox · · Score: 1

      Agreed. Our Dyson vacuum cleaner gave up the ghost (after 10 years, so it hadn't done that badly, at least by modern expectations). We bought a Miele Classic C1 (with bags). Oh what a joy! The thing actually cleans, and when its bag is full, you throw it in the bin - no asthma-indicuing choking cloud of dust to deal with which leaves the perspex tank on the cleaner filthy and scratched. Dyson's triumph was to convince everyone that - axiomatically - bagless was better, whereas in fact it's way worse. If you have any sort of breathing issues when confronted by a cloud of essentially human waste in dust form, you don't want a bagless vacuum.

    3. Re:James Dyson is not Clive Sinclair by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      May I ask what is revolutionary about a cyclone he copied from his shop-vac, a fan he copied from Toshiba, and a hand-drier he copied from Mitsubishi?

    4. Re:James Dyson is not Clive Sinclair by mark_reh · · Score: 1

      I have a Miele C3 and it is fantastic. Quiet, powerful, and as you said, no cloud of duct when I empty it. It doesn't even scare the cats.

    5. Re:James Dyson is not Clive Sinclair by NotAPK · · Score: 1

      I disagree with your point of view on the Dyson vacuums.

      We have one of these Dyson ball vacuums. The ball is a gimmick, but as a vac for a small home it really is excellent.

      Unfortunately for us the carpet brush in the head threw its bearing and damaged its plastic retaining clip. What I was quite impressed with was that I could go to their website and order a new brush, with bearing, and a new clip, for only GBP 15 delivered. They arrived in a few days, I could fit this myself, and the machine is now as good as new.

      The modular design makes it serviceable and I really like that.

      On top of this, I can clean the filters as often as I like. Hell, I can clean the entire machine as often as I like, since I can dismantle the entire vacuum pipeline and wash each plastic part in soapy water and let it dry. Such a service brings the machine right back to an as-new condition.

      Others have posted that bag-less doesn't work so well. I have no metrics on the technology, but my anecdote is that you need to keep the bag-less system clean, which means dismantling the dust catcher and cleaning it thoroughly every few months.

      Anyway, I've been a happy customer and am impressed with the quality and serviceability.

    6. Re:James Dyson is not Clive Sinclair by macraig · · Score: 1

      Did I somehow still manage to leave you with the impression that I'm a fan of Dyson's (lack of) innovation? My bad.

    7. Re:James Dyson is not Clive Sinclair by macraig · · Score: 1

      I hope you never need to use that gods-damned accordion hose at any distance past one foot. You'll acquire a very unwanted groupie. I also hope you don't have a bed or other furniture with a low undercarriage that demands cleaning underneath with an actual motorized brush-head... and by "low" I mean anything that the huge ball and frame of these vacuums can't fit under. I don't even have a ball model and there is NO furniture under which I can vacuum for cat fur with it. The "turbo" suction-driven attachment allegedly designed for pets is a joke.

    8. Re:James Dyson is not Clive Sinclair by macraig · · Score: 1

      That might be an apt comparison.

    9. Re:James Dyson is not Clive Sinclair by NotAPK · · Score: 1

      Dead true about the stupid little hose, you are right, and I respect your problems regarding the pet fur. I should have clarified that for our use, it's just a small apartment with two "indoor type" adults, so very little mess. We also have a box-base style bed, so don't have to get under there with the ball. On reflection, any kind of vac would suit us fine, which is why I was only commenting on the serviceability, which is simply refreshing to find in today's disposable and "throwaway" society.

  28. that is not always true by pablo_max · · Score: 1

    Expensive does NOT always mean better. Though yes, very often you get what you pay for.

    Case in point. Dyson vacuum cleaners. Even though they are significantly more expensive than other brands in the US, they are crap. The hard plastics used, especially at the handle for the dirt trap break after a comparatively short amount of time. Admittedly, I am only going by anecdotal evidence here. My sister went through three in two years, though she still likes it when it's working.
    I had one for about two weeks and returned it. I thought it was broken because the suction was so poor. Turns out it was normal though. You see, I had just moved to the US from Germany at that time, where I had always owned Miele vacuum. These are, admittedly massively over priced in the US. What I paid 300€ for in Germany costs $900 in the US. That thing would suck up everything even when the bag was full.. no change in suction. We beat the crap out of it and never had any issues. Though, I learned that the motor wattage used in Europe is higher that what is used in the US for some reason. So.. I guess that explains it.
    So.. what's my point again? No idea. Something about expensive stuff being better than cheap stuff i guess. ;)

    1. Re:that is not always true by markus · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Miele Vacuums in Germany are power hogs and need 2200W. That's fine, as German power outlets are 240V at 13A. You can draw more than 3000W before tripping the breaker. Try doing that on a 110V/15A outlet and the results won't be so pretty.

      It's easy to be powerful, if you don't mind wasting a lot of power. But just watch what's happening right now; the EU smartened up to this game and passed new regulations, limiting vacuums to 1600W. All of a sudden, Miele vacuums don't look all that great any more. But Dyson's are awesome, as they have many years of experience maximizing suction power with much lower electrical power needs.

    2. Re:that is not always true by Fragnet · · Score: 1

      It's interesting you mention the EU. Dyson has repeatedly talked about how the regulations are fixed, designed to make his competitors look better than they are compared to his products. This is basically how the EU works - it's a protectionist racket for French and German companies.

    3. Re:that is not always true by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Other manufacturers are changing their designs now. There is an increasing choice in vacuum cleaners without paper bags that use around 700W. I got one from Philips, *much* cheaper than Dyson, and it's suprisingly good. Better than the Miele I once owned when it's bag was getting full, also silent, easy to handle and easy to empty and clean. Dyson goes further now by making vacuums that need no filters at all and still remove fine dust. My Philips does have dust filters that need to be cleaned or replaced occasionally, but I'm happy with it.

      Like Dyson's design it gets the dirt out of the way of the main airflow so it doesn't have to pump the air to an increasing amount of dirt. What also saves energy is the design of the mouth piece, a good design can collect dirt from hard floors and carpets with less airflow than a poorly designed one.

      Many brands have similar designs now, although Miele seems to be an exception. I'm not claiming that Philips outperforms their competition, that just happens to be the one I ended up buying from what was available at that time. The energy labels required by EU do not only tell you how much energy the vacuum cleaner uses, but also how well it will perform both on hard floors and carpets. If you take the trouble of finding out what the ratings actually mean you get a pretty good idea of what you're buying.

    4. Re:that is not always true by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Peak power is not continuous power. No vacuum cleaner uses 2200W if it encounters little resistance. Moreover, Dysons break after a few years, while Mieles last for decades.

    5. Re:that is not always true by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      the EU smartened up to this game and passed new regulations, limiting vacuums to 1600W

      That sounds idiotic. A 3000W vacuum cleaner lets me the job done in half the time, but now the fucking bureaucrats have passed yet another regulation to justify their existence and now I have to spend twice as long while using the same amount of electricity as before. Fucking awesome.

    6. Re:that is not always true by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What also saves energy is the design of the mouth piece, a good design can collect dirt from hard floors and carpets with less airflow than a poorly designed one.

      This, I've replaced the hoose/piece on a weak 20 year old vacuum cleaner with the one from a broken cheap vacuum and it works much better than what came with it.

    7. Re:that is not always true by MancunianMaskMan · · Score: 1
      I have one of those 2200W power hogs and also a more recent and slightly more expensive Miele, whcih draws only 900W, is much quieter, and magically sucks just as well (sucks dust, that is,not donkey gonads).

      I can recommend the things, and while I like the idea of bagless, and have worked for an hour with a Dyson upright (ancient model) and was impressed, I never felt convinced enough to part with so much money for a machine that gets very mixed judgement... and they change models so quickly too, you really don't know if the new ones are still as good.

    8. Re:that is not always true by mark_reh · · Score: 1

      I just bought a Miele vacuum cleaner. I studied a lot of reviews and found that Dysons have a reputation for being loud. That's what I was trying to get away from. That and the idiotic concept of "bagless". Bagless vacuums are great until you have to empty them. Then they make a mess. I suppose I could take the thing out to the yard, stand upwind of it, place the canister into a trash can, then open it up, but I'd still have to wipe all the dust off the canister before I brought it back into the house.

      The Miele is quiet (my cats don't even run away from it), powerful, and disposal of the bags is very neat and simple. The handle extends long enough the I don't have to bend over to use it unless I'm trying to reach under furniture.

      Why would anyone care about reducing power used? When I have a job like vacuuming to do I want it done as quickly as possible. If I got a 100W vacuum cleaner and then spent the next twelve hours vacuuming with it I might be able to get the work done that a 1200W vacuum cleaner will do in an hour. Power used would be the same but I'd have spent 11 hours less vacuuming with the higher powered option. Nothing is as valuable as my time. In fact, I'm going to stop wasting it by posting stuff about my vacuum cleaner in forums like this.

    9. Re:that is not always true by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      I can recommend the things, and while I like the idea of bagless, and have worked for an hour with a Dyson upright (ancient model) and was impressed, I never felt convinced enough to part with so much money for a machine that gets very mixed judgement... and they change models so quickly too, you really don't know if the new ones are still as good.

      The new ones are just as good. They aren't any better, because they are the same damned thing. They're just making cosmetic changes mostly now because they actually have a working vac. We are still pulling shit out of the carpet that clearly predates our residence in this rental. (The carpet is biblically old.) Take a look at the new ones. They're the same damned thing. That means, luckily, that they are great.

      I got mine as a refurb, which brought the price down considerably. Wish I had ponied up the extra cash for the ball, actually, since it's easier to move around. Not that big a deal, though.

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    10. Re:that is not always true by ddtmm · · Score: 2

      Miele Vacuums in Germany are power hogs and need 2200W ... It's easy to be powerful, if you don't mind wasting a lot of power ... the EU smartened up to this game and passed new regulations, limiting vacuums to 1600W. All of a sudden, Miele vacuums don't look all that great any more.

      I don't know where you're getting your specs but you should check the Miele website . All their large vacuums range between 800W and 1300W. Dyson doesn't even post their power consumption. If it's such a low power device, why wouldn't they at least mention it?

    11. Re: that is not always true by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you had a meile, pretty much everything else is inferior.

    12. Re:that is not always true by hackertourist · · Score: 1

      That's not how it works. Those 2200W are advertising numbers, which is why the numbers kept creeping up well into the "ridiculous" range. They sounded like a jet taking off and were horribly inefficient to boot. Product design consisted of "stick a bigger motor in and we're done".
      The EU regulation forced the manufacturers to start optimizing airflow, and lo and behold, the new 1200 W vacuum cleaners clean just as well as the old 2200 W machines.

    13. Re:that is not always true by mjwx · · Score: 1

      Expensive does NOT always mean better. Though yes, very often you get what you pay for.

      But the OP did not say "Expensive == better".

      He said he's willing to pay a little bit more for a product that lasts.

      Buying the cheap $40 business shoes might seem like a bargain, but they only last six months. Buying a $120 pair is more sensible when they last 2 years. I'm a bit of a tight arse, but I do the same because paying a little bit more for a job done right is cheaper than paying to have the job done again.

      Also I tend to put a bit of research into the things I buy, I'm well aware that expensive does not equal quality (erm... Apple) but cheap more often than not equals crap. I'll happily pay a small premium for say Sennheiser headphones because they break less often than the headphones you get for $5 off or Amazon, however I wont pay for the top end $300 headphones (for me, $50-100 is the sweet spot). The extra comfort is worth it, same with the noise isolation as my housemate has recently developed RPD (Random Pavarotti Disorder).

      OTOH if I dont care how long a product lasts, I'll generally buy the cheapest. I have been pleasantly surprised in the past but most of the time, quality has been adequate at best.

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    14. Re:that is not always true by bleh-of-the-huns · · Score: 1

      I disagree.. I have a Dyson vacuum cleaner.. I also have 2 dogs (Great Dane and Dalmatian), and at 1 point 4 cats (although down to 1 now). In that time, I have gone through 4 Vacuums, the Dyson was the last I purchased, and has been flawless ever since. It is not even the Animal version of the Dyson. Couple of small parts have broken here and there, but were easily replaceable.

      Maybe your sister just had bad luck. Mine has lasted almost 10 years now.

      As for the hairdryer.. I am a guy who used to have ass length hair.. and even I would not purchase the Dyson hairdryer... As others have said, that is a solution looking for a problem.

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    15. Re:that is not always true by Agent0013 · · Score: 1

      Try out a Kerby Vacuum. They are expensive as hell and use bags, but the suction is awesome. It gets more dirt out of the carpet than the first vacuum got even after the first one had been used first. It also keeps the motor cooling air flow separate from the vacuum air flow by a solid steel wall. No reduced cooling when vacuum pressure drops or damage if water is sucked up. Life time warranty on the things to.

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    16. Re: that is not always true by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Certainly Meile has some of the best astroturfers going in these comments. Huge marketting push by them recently.

  29. Re:A bit more thought and passion in products plea by whoever57 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    20 years ago, most products could be found in a range of price and quality. Now, markets have segmented into two distint price points:
    1. Cheapest possible.
    2. Luxury brand (typically for the 1%ers).

    I believe that this segmentation is related to 2 factors:
    a. Vast increase in imports of consumer products (mostly from China).
    b. Increasing wealth disparity.

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  30. Loads of Dyson PR employees here by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Most of the comments have an unusual UK syntax and show such a positive and caring outlook about this article which obviously is a PR stint also. Well played Dyson.

    1. Re:Loads of Dyson PR employees here by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Most of the comments have an unusual UK syntax and show such a positive and caring outlook about this article which obviously is a PR stint also. Well played Dyson.

      Sorry, but deploying sarcasm against them won't work, they'll just think you're really complimenting their spiffing wee marketing campaign.

      On the subject of the hairdryer

      Have a look at the Youtube video pointed to here, look at the PCB.
      Remember, that's in a bloody hairdryer..

      twats, utter utter twats..

  31. Re:A bit more thought and passion in products plea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The missus has several top of the line food processors, an expensive restaurant style blender that can blend wood into pulp, various mixers of all kinds, etc. None of them get used. I chop everything with a thin, strong, high-carbon steel cleaving knife I made in metalshop. It's thin so it cuts better than fancy serrated edges, allows vegetables to stay in their shape as I make slices (hold the onion together to prevent tears), In the time it takes to drag out the food processor I can have all that parsley finely chopped or vegitables minced. The plain old knife slices, dices and does Julianne fries.

    Last night I made some whipped creme out of heavy whipping cream and a bit of sugar, just used a whisk. The wife saw what I was doing and said, "Honey! We have a mixer, here, let me get it" Before she had it plugged in I replied, "Look, it's done. Desert's ready." It's more work, but holy shit, not much more work. The time savings might be worth it if I was serving 10, but for 3-5 people, just give me some basic simple steel tools.

    Although, I did amuse the kids one morning. Couldn't find the right mixer attachment for the mixer, so I chucked up a beater in my 24v cordless drill, and made quick work of pancakes and scrambled eggs for half a dozen slumber partied kids' breakfasts -- I even cooked the bacon without my shirt on too (put it in the oven at 375 about 15-20min until it's golden brown, stays straight, no splattering). I laugh every time I see a "bacon press" or some microwave whatsit for catching bacon drippings, just line the baking sheet with foil.

    Last month she brought home a Dyson "ball" vacuum cleaner. She couldn't figure out which lever or release button to get the hose to come free. Turns out it's got some kind of internal latch which unhooks once you pull it all the way to the top and the pole telescopes out all the way. I haven't told her. It's like watching the dog try to get the treat out of one of those teaser balls. Useless as hell, but darn cute.

  32. Hopefully the advertising campaign by BigU+03C0mpin · · Score: 1

    features JJ Fad.

  33. Re:A bit more thought and passion in products plea by thegarbz · · Score: 1

    Why is it when someone actually goes to extreme lengths to try and design the best possible product instead of trying to make the cheapest product possible with no effort to make it any good, reliable or safe everyone puts them down?

    We don't. No one gets put down for making genuine amazing products with amazing amounts of research that is "the best possible"

    Dyson products are "as different as possible". He throws endless engineering at problems he doesn't understand even if they are well known (cyclonic separation), and the other half of the engineering is put into skirting patents he ripped off from other companies (bladeless fan from Toshiba, jet hand drier from Mitsubishi).

    Dyson releases products and my first thought is not "whoah this is awesome," my first thought is "who have they ripped off now to sell overpriced plastic junk?"

  34. Please give us the ultimate shaver next by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Give us the shaver that is as easy to drive like Braun, but as silent and easy to clean as Philips. There is the price class of 300-500 EURs Dyson could easily fit in.

  35. Well fuck me. by Laser_iCE · · Score: 1

    Apparently I'm the only bloke here who thinks that this looks really cool, as far as hair dryers go anyway.

    1. Re:Well fuck me. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Apparently I'm the only bloke here who thinks that this looks really cool, as far as hair dryers go anyway.

      There's a difference between $100 "looks like an amazing idea, perhaps I'll splurge" - and $400 "good grief, I could buy fifteen hair dryers for that price".

  36. Re:A bit more thought and passion in products plea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    re: 1. disposable because sticker price is the only factor for many

    re: 2. multi-generational because these people are used to paneled wood walls and antique furniture, and there's no point getting something that'll break

  37. I wonder how much Dyson paid for this ad by SumDog · · Score: 1

    This isn't regurgitated news. They're putting a fucking ad right in there as a not-a-news story.

  38. for bold fat /. readers it's a neck beard dryer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    for bold fat /. readers it's a neck beard dryer

  39. Dyson sphere by WaffleMonster · · Score: 1

    They should have employed those 103 engineers to figure out how to build an impenetrable concrete bubble around Dyson's corporate headquarters in order to save humanity from such egregious feats of idiocy.

  40. Re:A bit more thought and passion in products plea by Yaztromo · · Score: 3, Funny

    I even cooked the bacon without my shirt on too (put it in the oven at 375 about 15-20min until it's golden brown, stays straight, no splattering).

    I too appreciate when my shirts stay straight and have no splatters on them, but I think if you just bought your shirts in golden brown colour to begin with you could bake them for just one minute, and they'd still come out toasty warm.

    Yaz

  41. This will make the climate warmer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Haven't we learned ANYTHING?

  42. No, they're pretty good by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Their blade hand dryer dries your hands, which is more than most of those whoosy blowers. Their vacuum cleaner removed the bag, today I use a Samsung bagless and its good (and thanks to Dyson its bagless). Far better than the bag ones.

    I'm sure their hair dryer will be excellent too. Not worth the insane $$$, but good.

    If their vacuum cleaner wasn't good, then everyone wouldn't have copied them, and I wouldn't have a nice bagless Samsung to use?

    Also who the f*** buys bags for vacuum cleaners these days? Where do you even buy them from?

    1. Re:No, they're pretty good by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      Their blade hand dryer dries your hands, which is more than most of those whoosy blowers.

      Their blade hand dryer breeds bacteria, and then blows it onto your hands. It also doesn't accomodate anyone with hands larger than a child's. It's garbage.

      Their vacuum cleaner removed the bag, today I use a Samsung bagless and its good (and thanks to Dyson its bagless).

      Bagless vacs predate Dyson by decades, so no. That's not thanks to Dyson.

      If their vacuum cleaner wasn't good, then everyone wouldn't have copied them, and I wouldn't have a nice bagless Samsung to use?

      Their vac is good, and being bagless is cool, but Dyson did not invent that, so stop riding the dick before commenting.

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  43. Re:A bit more thought and passion in products plea by Legionary13 · · Score: 1

    In defence of Dyson’s dryer: I worked in 2015 for an organisation that had hand dryers from both companies and the Dysons worked far better than the Mitsubishis. The Dyson machine is nearly as good as a paper towel.

  44. News for Merds. by jenningsthecat · · Score: 1

    Stuff that Natters.

    See what I did there?

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  45. "with a design language" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What does that even mean?

  46. For the first time ever, by jenningsthecat · · Score: 1

    I just went to the Firehose and modded as 'binspam', (many, many times), a story that has already been accepted, namely the one in which I am currently posting a comment. Fuck Slashvertisements.

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  47. It won't revolutionize anything by DrXym · · Score: 1

    It's a hairdryer. It costs 4x as much as other hairdryers. It dries hair. If Dyson has revolutionized anything it is in the line of bullshit they spin to sell their products.

  48. Airblades are excellent by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I suspect you're using it wrong. You stick your hands in at the *sides* and lift them out once. The air forms a blade that forces the water to the tips of your fingers and off. It takes 2-3 seconds and they're bone dry in one pull.

    It is *not* an evaporation drying, it does not try to blow hot air onto your hands to dry them. Rather it squeezes the water down.

    It's not that you put your hands in, pull them up and down till it blows your hands dry by evaporation. Which is what I suspect your trying to do.

    Never tried the Xlerator, but its a hot air blower isn't it? An evaporation dryer? Once you read the pictograms on the Dyson and try it, you realize how quick it is.

    1. Re:Airblades are excellent by execthis · · Score: 1

      Now I want to go to the mall tomorrow to use the restroom just to try it!

    2. Re:Airblades are excellent by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      I suspect you're using it wrong. You stick your hands in at the *sides* and lift them out once.

      There's no room for me to do that. I can only put my hands about 80% of the way into the Dyson airblade before they are in the fetid water which pools inside of it. Apparently, the brits have teeny tiny little child hands.

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    3. Re:Airblades are excellent by NotAPK · · Score: 1

      "It's not that you put your hands in, pull them up and down till it blows your hands dry by evaporation. Which is what I suspect your trying to do."

      That's what the help diagram shows, so no wonder everyone does it that way.

      However, in my experience one-pass is insufficient to remove the water from my hands.

      The Xcelerator mentioned above does both: it has a jet of air fast enough to blow away the large drops, and enough warming to finish off the job. Because it blows straight down there is no risk of touching anything, and you can control the orientation of your hands as you see fit. It's the best of all worlds.

  49. Big numbers by tinkerton · · Score: 1

    over 1,000 miles of test hair

    They should have given that in meters, so it sounds bigger. So since this smells of 'trying hard to make numbers sound big' , how much hair length does a human have?
    If you take 100,000 hairs and 15cm it adds up to 15km or 10 miles. So they tested 100 heads. Or the same head 100 times. I wouldn't rank that under 'more than you'd expect'.

  50. AFAIK not really suitable for curly hair either by execthis · · Score: 2

    Hair dryers also tend to wreak havoc on and are generally not recommended for curly hair. Some people use diffusers but even these mess up curly hair. I noticed none of the models in the videos had curly locks.

  51. 103 engineers in Dyson's company by LordHighExecutioner · · Score: 1

    103 engineers in Dyson's company, 103 engineers.
    Fire one, pull him out, 102 engineers in Dyson's company.
    Move one to marketing dept., 101 engineers in Dyson's company...

  52. Re:A bit more thought and passion in products plea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    And 60 times less hygienic.

  53. It also spreads 399x by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    the regular amount of bacteria into your hair. This is the whole thing you're paying for.

  54. Re:A bit more thought and passion in products plea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I agree with your philosophy but Dyson products are 90% marketing, 10% quality/innovative design nowadays (not unlike another 5 letter company known for overpriced products).

    I bought a Numatic vacuum cleaner years ago which is built like a tank, has no cracked plastic and still has the suction power of your dream girlfriend. Even after being hurled into a closet after every use, not changing the bag often as recommended, and other forms of abuse.

  55. Tested on Animals? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Does Dyson test their products on animals?

  56. Gold plating on a dump truck by American+Patent+Guy · · Score: 1

    Dyson's true discoveries are to find people predilected to believe silly things and spend lots of money on fads. He claims his vacuum cleaners produce more "suction". The vacuum of any air-moving machine is limited by the natural air pressure, not by a fancy impeller design. It's like making an empty bottle more "empty". My grandma's Kirby from the 1950s produced just as much "suction" as a Dyson, and it had a metal housing that you could hit with a cannonball with no dent.

    Now Dyson would have us believe that he has done what no one else in any company has been able to do for 50 years with the hairdryer. What he does with it is akin to putting gold-plating on a dump truck. The non-plated version does the same job for a whole lot less.

    1. Re:Gold plating on a dump truck by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hear the status cymbals clash!

  57. Re:A bit more thought and passion in products plea by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

    What pisses me off about Dyson pricing is that the UK gets ripped off compared to other markets, despite Dyson being a UK company. For example, the recently released V6 Mattress cleaner is about 20% cheaper in the US (before 20% sales tax in the UK). I recently bought a V6 Absolute, and it was about £150 cheaper to get it from Amazon.fr than from anywhere in the UK.

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  58. Dyson reminds me of Carver by mark_reh · · Score: 1

    Carver used to make audio products back in the 80s and 90s. Their big thing was called "magnetic field amplifiers". They would churn out "white papers" on their technology and people would buy their stuff. None of it ever lasted long and they went out of business, several times, IRIC.

    Carver's big "breakthrough" was, like Dyson, in marketing, not engineering.

  59. 400 dollar hair dryer??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Mr. Dyson, it is a hair dryer not a vacuum. A price tags of 400 dollars eliminates a lot of prospective buyers.

  60. Constructive comment by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Mr. Dyson, to call people willing to leave a comment but not "log in to post" Cowards, is pretty shameful on you, your company and a slap in the face to people taking the time to give you feedback.

  61. Supersonic hair dryer by Chrisq · · Score: 1

    Here is a clip of product testing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

    1. Re:Supersonic hair dryer by ffkom · · Score: 1

      No, that was still not "supersonic".

  62. Re:A bit more thought and passion in products plea by cdrudge · · Score: 1

    the other half of the engineering is put into skirting patents he ripped off from other companies

    So in other words, doing exactly what the patent system intended inventors to do.

  63. The hair dryer for idiots by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Well, people think BMWs and Apple phones are good expenditures. I'm sure these idiots will buy this thing to.

    FWIW:
    Get a:
    1) Android
    2) Lexus
    3) $20 hair dryer from Wal-Mart

    Same thing really. I saw this because I know someone that used to buy BMWs for 20-30 years. He bought a Lexus and said he saved $20K to get the same thing. He'll never get a BMW again.

  64. cool website though by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I like the zoomy things and then the interactive parts and everything. It's clean and simple too... too lazy to look at the code underneath. Actually it's not laziness as much as I like the design so much I don't want to ruin it by seeing potentially nauseating code underneath.

  65. Hair dryer is very important by 140Mandak262Jamuna · · Score: 1

    To all the nay sayers who laugh at hair dryers, I say this: Hair dryer is the most under estimated products in the history. Remember when Princess Vespa was stranded in the desert moon of Vega, all she had was a hair dryer and she survived the desert with it.

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  66. Cool idea, but... by jcr · · Score: 1

    A bit too rich for my blood. I'd consider getting one of these if the price were around $150 or so.

    -jcr

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  67. I Don't Think All You Male Slashdotters Understand by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Let me repeat my subject line with added explanation: I don't think all you male slashdotters understand who or what this product is for. This product is specifically for women. You know, the other sex? The ones that you don't understand? The ones who buy most hair dryers?

    For me, a male, hair is not a big deal. I wash it, comb it and I'm done. As some of you know, women are notoriously finicky with their hair and spend a LOT of time making it look pretty. Washing it, conditioning it (which are separate all the time), teasing it, drying it, straightening or curling it (per her wishes at that specific time), coloring it from time to time, etc. It's kind of a big deal with them.

    Which leads me again back to my point. This product is made for women. If it in some way improves the way women "do" their hair, either by significantly decreasing the amount of time it takes a woman to dry their hair, by improving the long term healthiness of the hair (I.E. less split ends because the hair is not being heated so much) or by using non heated air it makes the hair look better (and believe me, women can see this), then Dyson will make a boatload of money off of this product. If it does any of the things I've described, do not get in the pathway of a woman getting one of these new hair dryers. You'll get run over.

    And the $399 price tag? If the thing is solidly constructed and easy to use, women will gladly pay it. My wife, who has some curl to her hair and who doesn't like it, bought (as I remember) a $150 hair straighter. She didn't even blink at the cost. After I took a look at it, I understood why. I'm a mechanical engineer and even I had to appreciate its solid construction. It's heavy, has ceramic plates that the hair is pulled through. And it will last her and my lifetimes put together.

    In short, you GUYS need to understand that about 50% of the population out there is not you. It's the female market. And many successful businesses out there understand that and gear themselves to this demographic. Amazon's Kindle and the Ford Mustang are but two examples (what? you didn't know that the Ford Mustang is specifically designed towards women? Go and sit in one with your normal male proportions and see how the seat fits you. Then imagine how a smaller female would fit. The seat is designed for females).

    So if Dyson has really improved the hair dryer for the female experience, he's going to make a killing.

    Gordon

  68. Video is compelling... by jpellino · · Score: 1

    some solid engineering and user-centric thought here. But $400? Nope. There are $20 hair dryers out there with a thousand 5-star reviews. Is this 20x better? Seeing how Dyson hand dryers spread germs at a rate and range that would make evil geniuses and zombies jealous, I'll pass on this.

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  69. "Bladeless" by Bohnanza · · Score: 1

    I assume that like Dyson's "bladeless" fans, it has the fan blades hidden within it? It's amazing to me how many people think those things are magic.

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  70. Words used to have meanings by xtronics · · Score: 1

    Supersonic it is not - just dishonest.

    Full disclosure - I have used shop-air (oil-less and dried) to dry my hair - works fast - tends to tangle - no heat. Still not supersonic.

  71. $400 for a hair dryer? Mine cost $40,000 by Nkwe · · Score: 1

    I dry my hair with the defroster in my car. A bit expensive for hair driver, but it takes me places as a secondary feature, and it's cordless.

  72. Re:I Don't Think All You Male Slashdotters Underst by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Let me repeat my subject line with added explanation: I don't think all you male slashdotters understand who or what this product is for. This product is specifically for women. You know, the other sex? The ones that you don't understand? The ones who buy most hair dryers?

    Hi Gordon,
    well, lets see, are you saying that Dyson is trying to exploit the fairer sex here by peddling this overpriced toy?
    And, do you not think some of with SOs into tech toys will be hearing the dread words 'Darling/Hey you this Dyson thing looks rather nice...oh my birthdays next month...'?

  73. Re:A bit more thought and passion in products plea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Wow, that was by far the douchiest thing I've read all month. Congrats.

  74. Simple Solution: Lower Heat Setting by NotOddManOut · · Score: 1

    On the website, Dyson regulates the heat of the drier so that it does not exceed a certain temperature that will damage hair. Preventing hair damage is the main goal. If speed of drying isn't that much of an issue, set your current hair dryer on a low heat setting to achieve a similar (not the same) effect.

  75. Re:A bit more thought and passion in products plea by toddestan · · Score: 1

    And one problem is that #2 will often be #1 just with an insane mark up. I buy the cheapest possible and get a piece of junk, at least I got what I paid for.

  76. $400? by ebvwfbw · · Score: 1

    Who the hell is going to buy it. Even people with a lot of money don't like to be ripped off like that.

    Unfortunately I'm sure there are stupid people out there to buy it.

  77. Dyson Hair Dryer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    As a Haistylist of 45 years..
    WHERE do I buy one??
    Sandy Moser
    3326 Dunn Ave
    Cheyenne,Wy.
    82001
    Hair Dunn Your Way