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E-Cigs Are Exploding In Vapers' Faces At An Alarming Rate (buzzfeed.com)
E-cigs are becoming increasingly popular, but are they safe enough? BuzzFeed News is reporting about accidents where e-cigs have exploded in vapers' faces. The report claims that these incidents are occurring at an alarming rate. From the report (condensed): Across the country, defective e-cigarettes -- the nicotine delivery machines that have taken over every strip mall and sidewalk, seemingly overnight -- are creating hundreds of victims like Cavins (a 63-year-old Orange, California-based family therapist who lost an eye after an e-cig device exploded in his face), people whose lives are suddenly and horrifyingly changed when their devices blow up. They are people like Thomas Boes, whose vape exploded while he was driving outside San Diego and struck him with such force that two of the three teeth he lost lodged in his upper palate; Kenneth Barbero, whose exploding device ripped a hole in his tongue; and Marcus Forzani, a 17-year-old whose left leg was charred from his calf to his thigh after a vape battery exploded in his pocket. An unpublished FDA analysis found 66 reports of e-cigarette overheating, fires, and explosions in 2015 and the first month of 2016, a number the agency calls "an underestimate of actual events."
And people say evolutionary pressure doesn't exist in modern society...
66 whole reports?! Why, we need a law immediately! Someone call Congress!
Government to the rescue!
Seriously, use a protected battery, use only one battery in the device, in low wattage devices that have short-circuit protection, and don't overcharge your battery. And don't buy the cheap shit batteries - the three bucks you save won't be worth it. It's that fucking simple.
Time to mandate that they're sold in plain black packaging with a scary picture on it.
Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
Sure, lets criminalize sugar, being lazy, and making bad choices while we're at it.
Can't risk losing an eye, time to switch back to regular cigarettes where I can only lose a lung....
Just wait ..
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The battery... I've only ever heard of them exploding or overheating with the massive, third party, batteries that go well beyond 4.8v This is the same nonsense as the "e-ciggs cause popcorn lung" fiasco. No, they don't. But if you are an idiot that heats it up to 700 degrees, you deserve what you get. I've quick smoking thanks to my ecigg, and i'm basically done using that as a crutch. THAT'S why these reports exist, follow the trail and you'll find yourself at the feet of big tobacco
This is why you never accept a vape from Bugs Bunny.
Does it make you happy you're so strange?
To many are also using devices that are completely sealed so if the battery does "let go" the pressure exits the easiest way. This is out the atomizer connection as it is usually only pressure fitted. One final thing about they guy who put the battery in his pocket and burned his leg. Well don't put a high energy battery in a pocket with loose metal. It shorted out and dumped all of it's energy in a split second causing his pants to catch.
There have been 66 cases reported according to the first link. 66. Out of tens of millions of devices.
This is just a typical case of control freaks in government looking for something else to get their fingers in.
Those 18650's are not called "ULTRAFIRE" for nothing...
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I don't get it.
I know that the first thing people will reach for is regulatory oversight, including banning them, but I remember that Underwriter's Laboratories isn't a government agency, and people are buying vaporizers from dodgy sources. Lawsuits, in this case, can only do so much I think. The companies will simply go bankrupt.
So I have to ask, as I'm a non-smoker who hasn't looked into it, are there any safety organizations that have published safety standards and are offering their guarantee mark to vaporizers that meet said safety standards?
A few stories like this making the rounds of e-cig communication lines(forums, magazines, websites), and the saying to 'get a UL listed one or you risk it blowing up!', and safety should improve.
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And I don't want to pay more in taxes, and increase oppressive governmental regulation due to someone's misinformed stupidity...
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..I've come down with a case of the vapers!
Except in this case it's not "Turning Japanese", it's turning Chinese!
Everybody knows that smoking kills you. The 'modern' method just does it quicker.
Tobacco industry and medical industry probably has enough shareholder overlap, so they are legally obliged to making the shareholders happy. So they have to continue making people sick or injured. Once all the cancer from tar and that crap was curbed a bit, they had to invent a new way to hurt everyone!
This is why you DO NOT BUY CHEAP BATTERIES.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?...
This is what happens if you get a shitty 18650 without any kind of protection circuitry and/or an ecig without a vented battery compartment.
How to tell if the battery is likely to explode:
http://www.lygte-info.dk/info/...
http://lygte-info.dk/info/isMy...
tl;dr stop buying cheap shit and expecting it to withstand a 35+ amp draw.
When I went to college, it was still legal to smoke in class. The work office always had a smoke cloud clinging to the ceiling. It was all acceptable and the norm. In under a decade both these practices were illegal. Bars and other places where people went to smoke a decade later. Maybe with the push for legalization of marijuana it will be legal again.
Bic lighters have been blamed for several deaths and several injuries over the years too. The link above was in regards specifically to Bic lighters from 1979 to 1984.
>> The world doesn't need one more way for humans to kill themselves
Sure we do. Humans keep removing all sources of natural selection and thats a bad thing. Its not the job of the government to turn the whole world into nanny state and put rubber bumpers on every sharp corner.
We should let these weak, stupid people that have a habitual need to suck on an electric tit carry on and kill themselves and do the rest of the world a favor.
And all but a couple bucks of that cigarette pack are taxes, so it's not money that the tobacco industry is seeing.
My answer would be that e-cigs likely use synthetic nicotine.
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Tobacco is bad, sure, but who the fuck knows what solvents, preservatives, and fuck-knows-what goes into those little bottles that you breathe all... the... way... in
Polyethylene glycol, menthol, and a little nicotine. Essentially harmless stuff, unless you try chugging it. Nicotine's toxicity is rather high (it's a few thousand times the psychoactive dose, just the psychoactive dose is tiny); polyethylene glycol is pretty harmless (a soda can's worth per day would have negative health effects, mostly straining your kidneys; high doses are acutely toxic); and menthol is just mint oil.
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First of all, fuck off.
Second, they have put laws on the books in many places, but those laws have made it illegal to sell e-cigs that do NOT have nicotine.
For example, in NYC, you can not sell the flavored ones, or ones without nicotine. This was supposedly to protect the children somehow.
I quite the real things 1.5 years ago. I bought some nicotine-free ones online - used several brands, though I'd recommend the "blu" ones for ease of use and taste. I didn't use them all that much, but when in a situation that causes significant cravings, they were enough to get by. If they had been nicotine ones, it would have put me right back on the wagon, resuming the chemical addiction.
IMO, they should require that the cig/juice distributors offer a nicotine free version, if they're going to add any requirement.
The problem is big tobacco doesn't like competition from e-ciggs. They can't or don't seem capable of making decent e-ciggs and the mom & pop competitors are literally eating into big tobacco's market. Start looking at whose funding these studies and whose drumming up the fear mongering you'll notice it is all linked to big tobacco. Sure- there are busy bodies everywhere too propagating this FUD, but they're not the root of it. Cigarettes are worse than pot generally speaking (unless maybe your a habitual pot smoker), but e-cigarettes are better than traditional cigarettes. The small number of people relative to the numbers harmed also is telling of just how much *safer* e-cigarettes are relative to traditional cigarettes. If we have a mere few hundred or few thousand deaths from e-cigarettes it'll be far far far fewer than the more than 480,000 people in the United States along who die for traditional tobacco products.
Sure, lets criminalize sugar, being lazy, and making bad choices while we're at it.
It's not the nicotine that's exploding, but the battery so it's not really the "bad choice" to which you're alluding. What if that battery was in a bluetooth headset and it blew someone's head off for just listening to the radio? Would you still be so condescending?
It must have been something you assimilated. . . .
Oh, come on, no-name lithium batteries have to fail sometime.
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I was smoking an e-cig while riding on my hoverboard when my Dell laptop battery exploded in my backpack.
I've yet to hear of any regulated mod (battery voltage regulator) blowing up.. only non-regulated ones. The non-regulated ones are simply a push button switch that shorts positive and negative terminals of the battery via the coil of the device.
Of course if you're coil is of so little resistance as to cause a short, the battery is going to explode.. much like jumpering the postitive and negative batteries of a car battery.
If people stopped being uninformed idiots that don't know how to use an unregulated mod, then they deserve what they get..
Or in other terms, don't stare into laser with good remaining eye.
Polyethylene glycol or propylene glycol? The first is a very powerful laxative (it is what they give when going to get an endoscopy), the second is something used in applications like RV antifreeze and other items.
Thing is a lot of phones and laptops HAVE exploded due to cheap batteries but the media has long since stopped caring about covering every instance of it. This is only being covered now because it's e-cigs which get a lot of attention, especially negative attention from tobacco industry lobbyists who don't want to lose more customers to e-cigs, so all the blame is on the e-cigs and not the cheap batteries some of them use.
Propylene glycol, you're right. I mixed up the wood preservative with the food-grade antifreeze preservative. Propylene glycol's toxicity is even lower, so my argument stands.
Man I've been having a bad day. That's twice now someone's had to correct me on something.
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That bluetooth headset isn't a pure resistive load, nor as heavy a load as the heating element in an e-cig. That said, I have a couple Firefly vaporizers and a Firefly 2, not the little cig-shaped and not used for nicotine; more medicinal than that. They're wonderful little devices, well built, but I also take care not to overwork the lithium bombs they contain, given the high-wattage load they power and the proximity to my face while they're powering said load. No need to condescend the bluetooth headset user, as even someone who is aware of the dangers will realize there really isn't any danger in that little headset. Perfectly acceptable to condescend to an e-cig user completely unaware of the (somewhat obvious) dangers of those devices, though; and I'd expect to be talked down to as an idiot if I held power on one of my Firefly vapes with a full battery, because the dangers are clear: arc flash from a failed heating element, explosion or fire from an overheated (overworked) battery, or both.
And yes, using the cheapest chinese shit batteries (with "fire" in the name, no less) or cells from a damaged laptop or tool pack is a bad choice.
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I vape since November 7th, 2011. Never smoked a regular cigarette since then.
My current mod is an eLeaf iStick 100W (http://www.eleafworld.com/istick-100w/) holding two 18650 Panasonic batteries (NCR18650B: http://www.batteryspace.com/pr...). The atomizer is an Aspire Nautilus with 1.6 Ohm resistor. I use VW mode on the mod with 14W setting.
Charging the batteries is not done using the integrated mod's charger. I have a certified 18650 battery charger for two batteries, with 1A total charging capacity, that is 500mAh charging capacity per battery. This means the batteries charge slowly. The charger has high temperature and short circuit protection embedded.
My alternate/backup mod is a Cloupor Mini with one battery (same brand/series as above), using an Aspire Nautilus Mini atomizer. The battery does not stay in the mod unless I actively use the mod.
Using products manufactured in China is not a problem. The problem is whether those products are manufactured with strict Quality Control or not. The rule of thumb is: if it's cheap and you never heard of it, don't buy it. And never, EVER skimp on batteries or chargers.
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I believe that the idea behind not allowing sale of the flavoured ones was something like "The flavoured ones sort of kind of taste almost candy-like. This will entice the children into trying them at an earlier age, and get them addicted to smoking. Therefore, it is bad. We shall only allow selling the normal ones, which taste terrible, because no child has ever smoked cigarettes before in all of history."
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Or just criminalize them? I really don't want to pay more for health care because of other people's stupidity.
People will never stop doing stupid things that get them injured/killed. The only way to not pay more for health care because of stupid people doing stupid things is to not have a system that forces you and others to pay for other peoples' health care.
The only way to minimize the cost in a shared-cost health care system is to restrict the freedom of the people to make individual choices. Every decision and choice affects health in some manner. It's like the interstate commerce clause. It can be stretched to cover pretty much anything those in power want it to cover. It's the government's "master key" to removing individual freedom and the ability to choose.
There will always be individual risk in a free and open society. Deal with it or move somewhere where individual freedom and choice don't exist.
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I've got one in a flashlight and it works fine. If you don't try to exceed its nominal current capacity it will probably last ages. People are making vapes without circuit protection and then getting surprised when they asplode.
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will undoubtedly account for 99% of these cases. There are no details in this story about what caused the batteries to explode, but I've read other articles which sometimes shed light on these cases. The guy with the leg burns kept loose batteries in his pocket with keys and coins. Another victim was a brand new vaper using a mech mod (it said he pushed the button on the bottom of the device, a tell-tale sign that it was a mech mod), and it was clear that someone else has prepared his gear and he had no idea what he was doing. In fact, I'd wager that most people with exploding batteries were mech mod users. Why mech mods still exist is beyond me. They have no protective circuitry, so if your build causes too high a draw on the battery, or the device gets stuck in the "on" position, you're going to have a big problem.
The one possibly unavoidable problem with any e-cigarette is counterfeit batteries. If you're trying to be safe and you buy Sony, Samsung or LG batteries, it can be tough to tell if they're genuine or not (I've gotten counterfeits myself through an Amazon third-party seller). If I have any doubts that a battery I'm using isn't genuine, it gets boxed and disposed of immediately. Of course, counterfeit batteries aren't only a problem for vapers, but the proximity of the device to your face will generally cause more damage than for, say, a flashlight user.
At a humidity rate of 57% there's 10g of watervapor in a cubic meter. We inhale about 11,000 liters of air a day , which is 11 cubic meters. So on a bit humid day, you inhale a little over 100 grams of water a day. At 15 grams of water per tablespoon, I think we should all panic right now!
These types of batteries are basically identical to those found in iPhones or any other modern device. Most are cylindrical lithium polymer. What is causing the problems is three basic things.
1) A complete lack of safety circuitry. Forget a smart battery system and gas gauging, many of the units I took apart had no safety at all (relied on the charger alone) to at most a leaky over and under voltage protection that was custom implemented. No charge or discharge current sensing and no temperature sensing. No faulty cell detection and no permenant disable for a faulty battery. Just like when Lipo batteries first hit the hobby market this means fires galore, and when enclosed, sizable explosions.
2) People use the incorrect chargers. Add to that little to no safety and it's a disaster.
3) People modify thier units without knowing what they are actually doing. They may have read a forum post or read a blog or had a friend do it. They don't realize any dangers or take any precautions.
Disclaimer: I have designed smart battery systems for products in the field. I have had failures but nothing the safety systems did not shut down before catastrophe.
Propylene glycol is also known as fog juice, the stuff that goes into stage smoke machines, and it's used as a food additive. It metabolises to lactic acid and is considered safe, which is why it's used in e-cigs.
Antifreeze is usually ethylene glycol, which is toxic. However, both salt and ethanol can also be used as antifreeze, and while they can be lethal in sufficient quantities they too are considered fit for human consumption. Calling something "antifreeze" tells you no more about its toxicity than calling something "natural" (i.e. snake venom) or "organic" (i.e. benzene).
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Now if only there was some way to make real cigarettes do the same thing...
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for some time now. It gives us a buzzy head and make us die sooner. That wasn't good enough. We figured out a way to add circuitry and potentially explosive batteries. We will now get buzzy heads and die sooner but not as soon. We promise not to be surprised when something goes badly. Is it just us or do dolphins sound like they're laughing?
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Doesn't water contain DHMO, which has been shown to be a serious health risk?
Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
The solution to all this is to DRM the battery-interface and enforce "made-for-ecigg" labeling scheme... yeah, that's it!
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The new FDA regulations on e-cigs did NOT ban flavors. It will, however, effectively put every manufacturer out of business with the exception of the big tobacco conglomerates.
You won't see any more innovation or options in e-cigs either. Every component is regulated and banned without a long and expensive approval process. In fact, it will probably be the end of refillable e-cigs and the sale of e-juice. It's going to be too expensive as each and every blend will require a separate application and set of laboratory testing.
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Have you tried it without nicotine?
I'm down to 3
I'm a longtime vaper with plenty of experience with mech mods (never even played with really low ohm, ultra high battery draw setups) and battery safety.
Your gear is indeed safe, mainly thanks to the regulated mods you use and the 1.6ohm high-resistance coils.
The Cloupor Minis did suffer a couple of cases of melting electronics, out of tens of thousands sold, but nothing worse happened outside the mod's metal casing.
High quality external charger is always a good idea, even if just for convenience. Even better idea is to never leave the charger unattended when it's charging. Even with the most reliable gear something can go wrong so why take unnecessary risks.
Your choice of batteries is not ideal though. NCR18650B's are considered reliable and they have high mah capacity, but they have a relatively low "constant draw" amperage limit, being rated only at around 4-5A, and as the battery is used and it's voltage goes down or as it ages your safety margin disappears. (although the regulated mod is still there to safeguard the batery)
I'd look for reputable brand batteries with safe IMR or hybrid chemistry (they vent slowly rather than explosively in the worst case) and constant draw rating of 10A or more. The latest temperature controlled mods can require the latest 20A or higher rated batteries.
Couple of links worth reading:
https://www.misthub.com/blogs/...
https://www.e-cigarette-forum....
Happy vaping and middle finger to Big Tobacco!
Unrelated: I used to work for Big Tobacco, huehuehue.
About the batteries: since the iStick 100W has parallel battery setup (the mod also works with only one battery installed), the low draw ceases to become an issue. I usually replace the batteries with freshly charged ones when they reach 3.8V (cca 30% remaining, graphically speaking, on the mod).
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the second is something used in applications like RV antifreeze and other items.
Other items, like fog machines or nebulizers and other medical applications. But nope, you're not scaremongering at all.
Articles like this are a heaping load of shit. I'd take them more seriously if they actually mentioned the device that was being used during each incident. They reason why is that a lot of these expolosions aren't from the device exploding, it's from the batteries inside of them. And further more, you'll find that nearly all of them are inexperienced people using mechanical or unregulated mods. Either they're using garbage batteries from Trustfire or Efest, or they're building their coils far far too low for what their batteries can handle. The other possibility is that these people aren't properly maintaining their batteries when the insulating wrapping is damaged, which risks creating short circuits inside the device and once more causing the battery inside to explode. We'd absolutely have fewer articles like this if people weren't complete morons when it comes to using 18650 batteries for vaping.
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As a non-smoker, I really prefer occasional battery incident now and then if this reduces the ordinary fires caused by ordinary burning tobacco products. From the smokers view, it could be different. Smoker usually dies in the fire and that's all, vaper survives and complains. If you are concerned, QUIT SMOKING, after all...
Compared to burning dried tobacco near your face, vaping is a lot better.
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If a bluetooth headset pulls that kind of amperage out of a battery, then it's clearly a very shitty bluetooth headset and would never pass UL, and very likely would never be sold.
Garbage lithium batteries + huge electrical load + proximity of face = blown up face. Why is this hard to understand?
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As it turns out, making a really good battery means putting a lot of energy into a small thing. Enough energy that failure induced rapid discharge is basically an explosion.
Combining this with low-weight requirements leads to little shielding, which makes the batteries more vulnerable. Finally, lets add some heat in usual use, and we get this.
Basically the same thing happened with the hoverboards. l-ion scares me.
Or people will just buy from somewhere outside the FDA's jurisdiction and have it shipped in. Good luck checking millions of UPS and FedEx packages for e-cig parts that look just like every other god damn electronic parts ever.
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So the Joker went electric.
If a bluetooth headset pulls that kind of amperage out of a battery, then it's clearly a very shitty bluetooth headset and would never pass UL, and very likely would never be sold.
Garbage lithium batteries + huge electrical load + proximity of face = blown up face. Why is this hard to understand?
Wrong detail on which to focus genius. The example device (bluetooth headset) was simply meant to be an innocuous device not associated with what the GP implied by mentioning "sugar, being lazy, and making bad choices". It could be any non-cigarette type thing. But you're correct in that the e-cig draws a higher immediate load than most other electronics.
It must have been something you assimilated. . . .
Don't mix up ethylene glycol with propylene glycol. Ethylene glycol is used as de-icing fluid and anitfreeze in your car's radiator, and is rather toxic. Propylene glycol is used as a food additive / preservative. I wouldn't want to breathe either of them into my lungs.
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we've got perfectly good laws already and they're going to be enforced. Also you wouldn't be making light of it if you or one of your friends or family was one of those 66.
Now, we might want some new laws that allow small businesses to safely sell vaping gear and equipment. The current laws were all written for big tobacco. They're likely to put mom & pops out of business. I'd like to see a middle ground here. We can start by properly funding the regulatory agencies so that it doesn't take them 2 years and $100 grand to review an application. You don't think this sudden push for enforcing existing laws came out of nowhere do you? Where do you think the political will to get it done came from?
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If you're smoking you at least know damn well you're engaging in dangerous behavior. If you're vaping you have no expectation that the vape pen is going to blow up in your face. The exact opposite actually. You expect it to be safe.
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I equals V over R. If your battery cannot supply the amps you are asking it for, it may pop.
Now, if you'll excuse me, I have backups to corrupt.
As a longtime tobacco user, I made the switch to vaping about 4 years ago. I agree with the above posters that speak of either cheap knock off batteries, and overly ambitious "Mods". I don't even like going into a vape store anymore and purchase anything I need online because of all the idiots toking on their drip mods with coils that they wound themselves, and that resemble the huge exhaust tips on some kids Ricer-mobile. They seem to think they everywhere they go is a cloud competition. I was grateful that vaping allowed me the opportunity to give up tobacco when nothing else worked, and as far as whether it's as harmful or not, time will tell. but common sense would dictate that inhaling something that is essentially on fire or at least smoldering is bound to be more harmful than water vapor with a little nicotine added. My bottom line is that its all about moderation, and whatever you do, you need to make sure you know what you're doing. I would bet money that every one of those 66 incidents involved either cheap knock-off hardware/batteries, or some idiot who was pushing the envelope and lost.
tons of people do stupid stuff with there e-cigs including ruining them hot or at hi wattage. i mean really a battery is going to get pretty dam hot before exploding you will notice something is wrong unless your stupid.
The story reminds me of Laurel and Hardy's exploding cigar gag (Great Guns 1941). Someone should put them up on Youtube so we can all watch.
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In the US there is not much in the way of government regulation of electronics, except when it comes to RF emissions (think FCC).
The regulations around causing fires are principally imposed by insurance companies (hence the name Underwriters Laboratories). Not getting UL certification for your product will make it hard to get product liability insurance.
Of course if you are a nameless manufacturer from a place far far away, liability insurance is more expensive than just being impossible to locate after your product explodes.
In other places there are government imposed safety certifications (Think C.E.). Take a look on the nearest wall wart power supply and look at the bazzilion markers for different certifications for different places.
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It's almost like smoking nicotine products is BAD FOR YOUR HEALTH!
In general, when an ecig blows, it's because the user ignored the manufacturer's instructions about the correct battery type/rating. That's the bad choice part.
To be fair, it can also be a scuzzy seller who re-labeled salvaged batteries. We already have laws for that, but these tend to come from China and we have no good way to push back on that ATM.
missing and eye and your front teeth doesn't really slow you down from procreating. Given that your offspring would have their eyes and teeth, as e-cig explosions don't alter your genes. So you really only need to survive until they are able to take care of themselves.
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Interestingly, at the same time this relentless fear-porn negative coverage about e-cigs is being bandied about (among other things like "vape juice is worse than cigarettes!"), millions of people are saving their own lives by switching to electronic cigarettes. The big tobacco companies do not like this one bit. Nor do governments who see billions of dollars every year in cigarette tax, nor does big Pharma, who generate massive sums off the "management" of cancer victims and others. This is why we only see a negative narrative with regards to the phenomenon.
One has only to examine the sources of the many studies for and against E-cigs to see that the negative ones - while not completely irrelevant - are largely funded by big tobacco in collusion with governments.
Even more interesting, companies like Philip Morris are developing their own proprietary vape technology even as they spend obscene amounts of money trying to convince us E-cigs are evil. It works by vaporizing actual tobacco in a traditional cigarette form factor, ensuring a transition to smokeless cigarettes while still maintaining the high prices and exclusive government approval for public sale. As always, follow the money - not the hype.
Slashdot now does the work of the anti-freedom forces and establishment busybodies? This is FUD.
A flashlight is quite a different beast from a resistive coil meant to flash liquid into vapor.
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Well, when you arbitrarily say that details don't matter, then yeah, okay. However, in my world (and everyone else's), details DO matter, and a bluetooth headset just isn't capable of pulling anywhere close to the kind of load necessary to make the battery explode without burning out other components along the way. As it turns out, designed wattage matters when it comes to this kind of thing.
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Researchers at Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health found that the chemical diacetyl (and acetoin) is present in several vape flavors. Diacetyl is used for "butter flavor" in popcorn & candy - and over a decade ago workers at the popcorn factories began to show signs of the lung disease Bronchiolitis Obliterans, hence the name Popcorn Lung. Links were made between diacetyl and this irreversible lung disease.
There is a very real concern that breathing in vapes containing diacetyl could give uses Popcorn Lung.
Sure - we don't always need a law. But how many people know of this link - and is there a responsibility to inform them? Whose job is that?
CBS News account of the story: http://www.cbsnews.com/news/e-...
Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
Please show me an example of a UL or CSA certified Bluetooth headset.
I'll wait.
Kid-proof tablet..
Yes, indeed it is, as part of another word. UltraFire, on the other hand... well, "Fire" stands on its own there. Further, my products (rather, the ones I'm using, I don't product, market, or sell them) are intended to heat up, it's what they're supposed to do, so "fire" is appropriate. A lithium battery? Not so much.
APK quotes people (including myself) without context and should not be trusted. Just thought you should know.
gah... proofreading... "I don't produce, market, or sell them".
APK quotes people (including myself) without context and should not be trusted. Just thought you should know.
Any counter examples? Any?
Birds are not dinosaur descendants;birds are dinosaurs, for all useful meanings of "birds", "are" and "dinosaurs"
So I should by as much e-juice as possible now?
I really hate the government. They destroy anyone small while propping up big corporations and still the people think that our administration is there for the little guy.