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HAARP Holds Open House To Dispel Rumors Of Mind Control (adn.com)
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HAARP -- the former Air Force/Navy/DARPA research program in Alaska -- will host an open house Saturday where "We hope to show people that it is not capable of mind control and not capable of weather control and all the other things it's been accused of..." said Sue Mitchell, spokesperson for the geophysical institute at the University of Alaska. "We hope that people will be able to see the actual science of it." HAARP, which was turned over to The University of Alaska last August, has been blamed for poor crop yields in Russia, with conspiracy theorists also warning of "a super weapon capable of mind control or weather control, with enough juice to trigger hurricanes, tornadoes and earthquakes."
The facility's 180 high-frequency antennas -- spread across 33 acres -- will be made available for public tours, and there will also be interactive displays and an unmanned aircraft 'petting zoo'. The Alaska Dispatch News describes it as "one of the world's few centers for high-power and high-frequency study of the ionosphere... important because radio waves used for communication and navigation reflect back to Earth, allowing long-distance, short-wave broadcasting."
The facility's 180 high-frequency antennas -- spread across 33 acres -- will be made available for public tours, and there will also be interactive displays and an unmanned aircraft 'petting zoo'. The Alaska Dispatch News describes it as "one of the world's few centers for high-power and high-frequency study of the ionosphere... important because radio waves used for communication and navigation reflect back to Earth, allowing long-distance, short-wave broadcasting."
Thant's what they WANT you to think!
I mean by all means have an open house but the kind of people who go HAARP == MIND CONTROL!!! aren't out looking for logic.
Nobody who visited the site remembers seeing anything suspicious...
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No one is really talking about HAARP being the source of mind control. They are referring to driving plasma with a steerable high gain, high frequency signal modulated at ELF/SLF/ULF rates, which is the method used to write data to brain employing a maser.
no mind control here. now if you'll excuse me while i return to the top secret laboratory.
It's a trap to control the mind of those who knows HAARP is capable of mind control and make them believe HAARP cannot control mind.
Achille Talon
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"This facility is only used to research the ionosphere and help with global communications. Also they had great pizza and the petting zoo was fun."
- John from Juno
"This facility is only used to research the ionosphere and help with global communications. Also they had great pizza and the petting zoo was fun."
- Mary from Anchorage
"This facility is only used to research the ionosphere and help with global communications. Also they had great pizza and the petting zoo was fun."
- Ryan from Kodiak
"This facility is only used to research the ionosphere and help with global communications. Also they had great pizza and the petting zoo was fun."
- Mike from Fairbanks
Expect to hear a related story on Sunday about the completely unrelated findings of a new study titled: "Facts, and the effect on them on people wearing tinfoil hats."
Like a fart in a Megachurch.
In a world of the blind, the one-eyed man is king--and the two-eyed man is a heretic.
Obfuscation while everyone is in line with the mind warping antenna array. Clever.
"We hope to show people that it is not capable of mind control and not capable of weather control and all the other things it's been accused of..." said Sue Mitchell
How sad that so many Americans could seriously believe in this bullshit, but that's what happens when you're fed a steady diet of FOX News and a constant drumbeat of right-wing conspiracy theories.
That one of our preeminent research facilities would be compelled to hold an open house to show that they're not involved in "mind control" is a sad and embarrassing commentary on the state of this country.
Just cruising through this digital world at 33 1/3 rpm...
I have never heard that one before. Weather control? Of course its capable of not very well directed weather control.
if the guys organizing this actually think it will help, or if they just like to show off - because I guarantee you that anyone who believes it's for mind control is NOT going to be convinced by seeing it up close.
A thousand pounds of wood moving at 300 feet per minute. Don't get in the way.
Propaganda Control.
Everyone smart knows its really an airport for alien UFOs.
A flashing strobe light and a repeating message... "This is not the mind control you're thinking of, move along"
http://s2.quickmeme.com/img/4f...
I can confirm as an amateur radio operator- it's a research project. We've heard it's signals on the air, and frankly it;s the only thing it could be doing. No encoding, transmit response pattern- it was trying to map the propagation patterns in the ionosphere.
But there is a punchline: WSPRnet does the same thing for free. Really.
http://wsprnet.org/drupal/
Another consultant who stuck it out.
"We are the Priests, of the Temples of Syrinx..."
Fully expecting the HAARP project to get blown up by person or persons unknown...
Chas - The one, the only.
THANK GOD!!!
Facts and evidence rarely change a tin-foiler's belief system. Nice try though.
opening the place up to the public seems to be just what you want?
HAARP is not mind control. Please don't look up.
Have gnu, will travel.
Yes, because 33 acres of antenna stuffs paid for by taxpayers isn't geeky or interesting at all.
Had Slashdot did an article exploring why so many elder-geeks seemingly become angry jaded combative naysayers of damn near everything, then I might agree with your criticism of article choices.
IIRC, HAARP was intended to heat the ionosphere so as to disrupt the flight path for Russian ICBMs. IMO, "study" using HAARP is like studying the sonar capabilities of Right whales by setting off massive underwater bombs. Which is what the Navy, and oil companies, are so eager to do.
What exactly about Mind Control is unscientific?
We are machines. Biological machines.
Machines can be affected, and yes controlled, by outside forces, by modifying their environment, and by various forms of force - mechanical, electromagnetic, and so on.
What scientific basis do you have to refute that biological machines cannot be affected/controlled by external means. In fact we know that certain vectors do affect us. Simplest example - increased depression caused by less light in the winter months.
What basis do you have to ignore not just the possibility, but the reality that governments, including the US government have performed covert experiments on their citizens.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuskegee_syphilis_experiment
Burden of proof is on the government to show they are not doing harmful things.
The worst thing, cetacean psychic group consciousness, http://templeinteractiv.byethost7.com/app/group_consciousness.docx
http://csat.au.af.mil/2025/volume3/vol3ch15.pdf
It's not entirely as if the notion of weather modification never occurred to anyone. There may even be other, better references. It is a very interesting subject, which is not being received too intelligently here, so far.
We are complex machines about which we almost have sufficient understanding to consistently do simple maintenance and repair operations which typically rely primarily on the machine's self-repair mechanisms. We do have the ability to turn these machines off, but we are then unable to turn them back on.
While we have observed that the operations of these machines is sometimes affected by their environment, the difference between the scope of what we know and can do at this time vs "mind control" is the difference between saying, "gee, this computer doesn't run as well when it's really warm out" vs saying "I'm going to write a piece of software for this computer".
It is true that various entities -have- tried various mind control and behavior control experiments before, but the simple fact of the matter is that it's something we have consistently failed to accomplish for decades. For example, look at drug rehab programs. The relapse rate for drug rehab programs is between 40 and 60 percent. If we were actually able to program someone's mind, this would be a prime candidate for reeducation.
Forgot to cite my source: https://www.drugabuse.gov/publ...
So you comment here and they postulate. HMMMmmm how can we rattle the truth and re-brand anybody who gets it "conspiracy theorists"?
HAARP is real, and it is real stupid.
But to have it here on FBI Slashdot? They need the nutjobs to chime in so they can call anybody with a fact a nutjob too.
FUCK THE FBI MOTHER FUCKERS.
Show people they're not capable of mind control? Hopefully nobody smart enough to realize how ridiculous that statement is, is a conspiracy nut.
Look, there's no "X" in this room. See, we've proved that we don't have "X".
GLaDOS: "Have I lied to you? I mean in this room.
... to drive to Alaska.
It's supposed to be completely automatic, but actually you have to press this button.
Honesty here is the best policy. Haarp isn't used for mind control; it's used for talking to the aliens. The mind control stuff is employed in a more controlled fashion.
Someone explain to me why google map had restrictions for viewing the area.
I havn't checked it for a decade. not sure if it changed.
Moderating "-1, Disagree" is simple censorship. Have the guts to post your opinion. -- Spazmania (174582)
A quick google search does not turn up a link to foxiness and HAARP, beyond the story referenced in this article.
However, left leaning NBC has a few discussing this. Also, left leaning links like the daily beast have several.
This is the general problem with the left today. It is very fast to define anything that is not agreed with as "right-wing," and this belief is very reflexive, often with little thought or any further reading. It is a very dangerous mentality, because it breeds to worst kind of colloquialism. The version of "my team is always right, because they are my team." Self criticism becomes next to impossible, because self doubt is non-existant. Since beliefs are never challenged, they quickly become stupid and ignorant...much like this.
"Liberalism is a very noble idea, currently controlled by some very bad people. Be sure you do not get the two confused.
Actually, all of the conspiracy-theorists I know are all extremely left-leaning.
Actually, it depends.
The left-leaning ones talk about how the good government is being corrupted by evil businesses. The right-leaning ones talk about how the evil government is fighting good businesses.
You see it all makes sense if you add in well known problems like the revolving door [1] and regulatory capture [2].
In this case the evil/corrupt corporations (and their wealthy owners) take over the government (and vice-versa), and then fight the good business to help out their evil cronies.
Finally, the combination of these two work together to perform rootkits on democracy like the Citizens United ruling, and the TPP/TTIP/TISA, so they can corrupt and dominate other countries as well.
It works if you think of corruption like an infection.
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
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This was the original purpose of LSD: Whether it's mind control or permanent hypnosis, is not known.
but everything else like earth quakes and such by directed beams is like not at all an issue right?
the reason it got shut down last time was when confronted the dude in charge looked so guilty ya had to know that these conspiracy nuts were onto something
"Dr." Nick Begich attend the open house, and for someone to be rolling video on him. He is singularly responsible for the conspiracy theories via his book "Real Angels Don't Play This HAARP".
Not that, as most people here say, it would change any minds. They merely move the goal posts or say that everything really worthwhile has been hidden from view during the open house, or misrepresented. Conspiracy theorists don't want to learn, they just want to be right.
Computers are definitely machines, which are very commonly controlled by outside forces. So why is it unscientific for me to think the government is injecting software into my computer via people using ultrasonic transmitters from the street in front of my house?
What scientific basis do you have that typical PCs computers can't be controlled 100 ft away by sound waves? We know that sound can affect computers. Simplest example is voice control in modern OSes.
Considering that the US government has performed covert experiments on their citizens, what basis do we have to ignore my theory?
Burden of proof is on the government to show they are not sending out ultrasonic signals that affect my computer.
"It's a magical place"
Just remote control and programming: https://sellfy.com/p/TQ4F/
DARPA was flying a beetle around with a remote control in 2006ish. Its been a whole decade. Since then, from what has been published, they have made significant headway with mammals (rats, monkeys, dogs).
Non-invasive forms of mind control have been in development for some time with research papers going back to 2013: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.... If it is in the public's hands, it's been in DARPA's longer as they have been doing this kind of research for over a decade.
While I'm not some crazy conspiracy theorist and I do believe we are still short of controlling people, it's not as far off as we may think.
Brilliance without wisdom, power without conscience. Ours is a world of nuclear giants and ethical infants.
Is it ironic that the minds of people who believe in mind control are being controlled by the belief in mind control?
"Molest me not with this pocket calculator stuff."
- Deep Thought
Could a mind-control system cause you to believe that it was a mind-control system, and thus cause you to lose credibility as a tinfoil hat conspiracy theorist? And thus protect the secrecy of the mind-control system?
Mind = Blown!