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Anti-Defamation League Declares Pepe the Frog a Hate Symbol (time.com)
An anonymous reader quotes a report from TIME: The Anti-Defamation League (ADL) has declared a popular internet meme depicting a cartoon frog to be a hate symbol. Pepe the Frog's beginnings were unoffensive: he is the creation of comic book creator Matt Furie, who featured the frog as a character in the series Boy's Club beginning in 2005. The character subsequently became a beloved meme, often called the "sad frog meme" and shared with a speech bubble reading "Feels good man" or "Feels bad man." But recently, as the Daily Beast reported in May, the character has been co-opted by a faction of Internet denizens who decided to reclaim it from the mainstream, and began sharing it in anti-Semitic contexts. "Images of the frog, variously portrayed with a Hitler-like mustache, wearing a yarmulke or a Klan hood, have proliferated in recent weeks in hateful messages aimed at Jewish and other users on Twitter," the ADL wrote in a statement. "Once again, racists and haters have taken a popular Internet meme and twisted it for their own purposes of spreading bigotry and harassing users," wrote ADL CEO Jonathan A. Greenblatt.
Who the fuck is the ADL? Why the fuck do I give a shit?
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The whole thing is fake. It's a fake meme. It has nothing to do with the alt-right. Clinton's campaign site was pwnd and they bought off on it.
How about a moderation of -1 pedantic.
ribbit
when a hate group makes a hate symbol to make anti-hate groups hate the symbol
The only logical explanation is that Time got trolled. I certainly don't recall reading anything about Hitler or Third Reich using frog symbols.
Of course, back in the day with the Clintons, it was Monica and other interns that were sucking the big D because Hillary would not. :)
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What's worse, PC Nazis or Mac Communists?
Ezekiel 23:20
It's not a hate symbol per se, but some racist fuckholes use it as one. There's a difference.
If I used, I dunno, the "recycle" symbol as a hate symbol, would that make it a hate symbol? No, it would just be some arsehole (me) using it that way.
But, I suppose with enough usage it would start to be recognized as such and then, yeah, it could probably be considered a hate symbol.
Just cruising through this digital world at 33 1/3 rpm...
Especially when you have an anti-hate group declare it to be a "hate symbol" which basically cedes the ground and lets the anti-semites win.
If it's even a thing, which I doubt it is.
Slashdot still doesnâ(TM)t support Unicode after it was added to the HTML standard in 1997.
Now we know the level of dumb the new Slashdot management is.
Or just another chink in the chain of media bullshit controlled by garbage in control.
Watt about the grammer Nazi's?
Yeah, in the debate last night, everyone thinks Trump made a mistake when he said Hillary has been "fighting ISIS her entire adult life".
Obviously ISIS hasn't been around that long, but the inside joke is that he didn't mean ISIS, he was referring to a certain guy who asked "what the meaning of IS IS".
lol
This issue is a bit more complicated than you think.
Get off the internet and go actually work.
Everyone's a little bit lacist.
...and then we can declare that a hate symbol too?
What about the rainbow flag? If sharia enforcing islamists start using rainbow colors, can we declare that a hate symbol?
What about the word "HATE"? Can we declare that a hate symbol, and ban it?
WTF, guys, seriously?
There, FTFY.
If you have a non-profit group whose goal is to save the whales, you raise money by writing about a new threat to whales every week and asking for donations afterwards.
The SPLC/ADL do the same thing, but with Nazis or anything that could possibly be argued to have one spoken to someone with a Nazi-like thought, because this is how they scare their readers into making more donations.
At this point, Nationalism -- the idea that a nation is defined by its founding ethnic group, and that it has the right to self-determination and to exclude all others -- is taboo only for European-descended people. Every other group can do it.
Now European-descended groups want the same thing because they do not want to abolish themselves and be replaced by mixed-race groups like we find in much of the world. They want Western Civilization back, and this is an important first step.
The SPLC/ADL would be smarter if they recognized that much as Zionism is Nationalism for Jews (read Theodor Herzl if you can) European-descended people have something similar for themselves. Everyone benefits if each group can have Nationalism, and preserve itself.
However, that threatens the globalist idea and its parent ideology, and so there are clumsy, ham-handed and laughably shrill attempts like demonizing Pepe which are just going to backfire on these watchdog groups.
Alternative Right.
Yes! Let's start adding the Hitler mustache to Charlie Chaplin pictures. Bwa ha ha ha!
I already saw Operation Google on internet neckbeard self-stim party Reddit:
http://www.reddit.com/r/Google...
Alternative Right.
so long as he doesn't fat-shame Ms. Piggy.
Sheesh, evil *and* a jerk. -- Jade
Am I missing something here? Why is there a need to declare the original meme as a hate symbol when pretty much every meme under the sun has also been co-opted by some community to make racist or homophobic jokes?
I'm not familiar with this ADL organization, but someone better warn them that if these are the standards they are going to use to declare something as a hate symbol, it's just better that they speed up the process and label all Internet memes and popular iconography as hate symbols altogether.
WOW ! This ranks right up there with PETA (more or less - mostly less). If it's a cartoon, then . . . SO WHAT ! I guess I don't deserve moderator points if this is the type of material I have to deal with.
redneck geek
Complete with pic.
Lawrence Person (lawrencepersonh@gmailh.com (remove all "h"s to mail)
http://www.lawrenceperson.com/
SJWs are a very specific group of indoctrinated individuals, rather than "every clinton supporter" (that are in majority just people that don't want to vote for trump, as most trump supporters are just people that don't want to vote for hillary).
But yes, they're racist as hell, and not due "being racist against white people", but by basically boiling everyone down by race and gender.
Everything you did personally, your opinions, it's all irrelevant to an extreme to those people, and they will either excessively "protect" you or just plain toss you under the bus, depending on how well you are ranked on the oppression stack.
Obviously all this is related to some inside joke in some obscure neighborhood on the internest. Since I'm not a denizen of this sub-division of the netisphere, I'm left out. But I do have something to contribute:
Certain portions of our world community claim special status based upon historical events. Anyone who says anything they don't like is subject to being labeled 'anti-Semitic' and being blackballed by certain elements of the Power Structure.
I look forward to the day when we can all see this labeling as the new McCarthyism. It's time to override the 'special status' of Israeli Jews and look critically at what they do and whether they are respectable citizens of the world. Are they deserving of billions of dollars in military support?
...omphaloskepsis often...
SJWs are a very specific group of indoctrinated individuals, rather than "every clinton supporter" (that are in majority just people that don't want to vote for trump, as most trump supporters are just people that don't want to vote for hillary).
True, this election most Americans are trying to find a way to vote against what they perceive as bigger evil. And let's face it, between the two real candidates there's no lesser evil.
The creatures outside looked from Alt-Right to Antifa; but already it was impossible to say which was which.
Everyone's a little bit lacist.
We are born that way. By the time my daughter was 20 months old she would speak English to white or black people and Mandarin to Asian people. I never taught her that. She figured it out on her own.
Does the ADL hate Mexicans? If so, does that not make them racist?
Jesus was a compassionate social conservative who called individuals to sin no more.
It's an ICBM being shot against US, and the only choices being letting it hit washington or forcing it to fall into NY instead.
If the media overlords would let the populace realize there's more than two 'parties' this would be a non-issue.
~ People that think they are better than anyone else for any reason are the cause of all the strife in the world.
I can see both doing it, but for completely different reasons.
The PC Master Race, or the Chosen Mac Users.
j'ai découvert une démonstration vraiment admirable (de ce théorème général) que cette si
We understand your concern with the latest incarnation of hate speech on the Internet. Unfortunately, at this time we are busy trying to figure out how not to get so many black people shot by police. So you will have to excuse us if we don't share your same level of urgency over a cartoon frog.
Sincerely, the American public.
Have gnu, will travel.
While there may not be a bigger evil, only one of the evils will have the entire bureaucracy and a bit under 50% of the legislative wing actively assisting them because they like the evil.
In a first-past-the-post system, if there's a big gap towards the 3rd candidate, voting for him instead of a lesser evil is a wasted vote. All you do is send a message that'll be ignored by most, it's for all practical purposes an "abstain" vote.
The creatures outside looked from Alt-Right to Antifa; but already it was impossible to say which was which.
Put it on the label pile back there, I ignore it later.
We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.
Link in the chain
Chink in the armour
Blink in the brain
Link in the armour
Chink in the chain
There isn't even two.
We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.
No, Spongebob is saved by a variant of the Cute cat theory of digital activism.
Said theory says that you cannot outlaw a medium that is used by dissenting parties once it has been adopted by the masses to look at cute cats, because then the outcry would be too big and people would notice that you're the bully. In this case, people have already learned that Spongebob is a cute cartoon and labeling him a Nazi symbol would show the public that you're full of shit and have no idea what you're talking about.
But as long as it's just a rather obscure internet meme that only an "in-circle" of people knows about, you're fine.
We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.
Some internet trolls take a meme and dress it up to be anti-semitic. For some odd reason this (out of the thousand others that work just the same way) gets the attention of the ADL and they declare the meme, not the dress-up, but the meme, to be anti-semitic.
Seriously, if I was the troll, I'd feel on top of the world. This must be the apex of trolldom. Ultimate validation.
We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.
Has slashdot become the outlet of political correctness gone wrong and pussies of the world united?
Watt about the grammer Nazi's?
Grammar Nazis.
There ok.
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Since Saudi is controlled by the British
LOL
And the Vatican owns America, yeah?
I do not want your cheap brainburning drugs. They are useless for work. And I am a working man today.
The AC is right. That you can intentionally select for traits is irrelevant. Race is a social construct. If you don't believe me, read this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_and_genetics
We're all Homo sapiens sapiens. A tiny handful of genes that affect outward appearance are irrelevant. The fact people cling to such outdated garbage is depressing.
How do these groups justify their existence over 40 years after the junk science of "race" was completely debunked? There is clearly a lot of money to be made by perpetuating junk science and peddling that garbage to the uneducated masses.
Goddamned Nazis did this to the skinhead movement too. It started as a punk assertive movement, and was quickly co-opted by neo-Nazi "warriors." This is why we can't have nice things.
You're gonna be so mad when Trump wins. So mad.
We don't have a state-run media we have a media-run state.
In what way is that "racist"?? ,cultures, and languages is racist now? In what way did her assumption that an asian person might actually speak an asian language imply the superiority or inferiority of said asians? Or white/black people? Because that's what racism is, believing that a race is superior or inferior in some manner to other races. Racism in practice is treating a person worse or better than another, solely on the basis of their race.
So the mere acknowledgment that humans are of different races
Sounds to me like she was thoughtfully trying to accommodate the asian person.
Look back up at my post, now look back down, you're on the Internet. Now look back up. I'm a signature.
All they care about is power.
Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
So if Micky Mouse starts getting portrayed with a hitler mustache, wearing a yarmulke or a Klan hood can we get him declared a hate symbol as well? Because I'd love to see Disney screwed like that.
In the free world the media isn't government run; the government is media run.
I think you misunderstood. GP simply said that ADL is a bunch of social justice warriors. That's entirely correct, according to ADL. He didn't "blame" the SJWs for anything, he said ADL is SJWs, and it is, they say they are. A few references from the ADL web site for you:
http://blog.adl.org/tags/socia...
http://www.adl.org/education-o...
http://stlouis.adl.org/the-fut...
http://blog.adl.org/education/...
http://www.adl.org/education-o...
I think we can all safely say they pale in comparison to audiophiles...{shudder}
When the only tool you have is a claw hammer every problem starts to look like the back of someone's skull.
Especially when you have an anti-hate group declare it to be a "hate symbol" which basically cedes the ground and lets the anti-semites win.
If it's even a thing, which I doubt it is.
Well Hitler was a vegetarian. So therefore vegetarianism is anti-semitic, right?
In the free world the media isn't government run; the government is media run.
Hitler-like mustache, wearing a yarmulke or a Klan hood, have proliferated in recent weeks in hateful messages aimed at Jewish
That doesn't make any sense. Is the frog here the person writing the message, as in "what the frog says", or is the purpose of the message to suggest that Jewish love the Klan and Hitler, while being frog-like?
Dude, frogs are a race!
In the free world the media isn't government run; the government is media run.
There are only two parties. The voters (electorate) and the people who get elected. Any other viewpoint turns you into a tool of the elected.
When the only tool you have is a claw hammer every problem starts to look like the back of someone's skull.
My understanding is that in the early stages, the bear was inserted into pictures to show people that "anyone can see this picture and might be 'enjoying' it for other reasons"/ It was anti-perverts using it as a warning against posting your kids private pics online
Later PB pretty much got adopted as a mascot for perverts.
Dumbassery like yours is a social construct.
A tiny handful of genes separate us from chimps. Slight changes have huge effects, and those effects are not just related to appearance. If people like you had your fucking way people wouldn't be allowed to ask about race and people would die due to genetic conditions that affect different races more/less.
Fuck your feelings, deal with facts.
I'm not mad, I'm laughing.
You are welcome on my lawn.
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The whole Pepe as a racist meme was a prank by two twitter users trolling a reporter: http://dailycaller.com/2016/09...
dailycaller's take, slightly more amusing
"You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
President Obama just vetoed the ability of the families to even sue Saudi.
As he should have. It was a stupid idea from the very beginning. Sovereign Immunity is an important concept, and there's no reason why this can't be turned against the US as easily as American citizens try to use it.
He's so into pigs he got himself a younger pig
"You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
ADL is both pro- and anti- "social justice," or at least the modern day's concept of it.
On one hand, most people concerned about the social justice side of Israeli/Palestinian relations tend to think that the Palestinians have gotten a pretty raw deal from the whole thing, what with them getting their land "bought out" to create Israel, current West Bank issues, etc. However, ADL is also a radically pro-Israel and pro-Zionist organization, enough that they have repeatedly tried to conflate criticism of Israel's policies with anti-Semitism itself. So they're sortof a weird outlier at odds with, say SPLC or other 'anti-hate' groups.
But declaring it as hate symbol is bullshit. From people who do not understand memes and snowclones.
No doubt some Palestinians got a raw deal in 1967. Now their grandchildren are bombing schoolkids, hospitals, and paramedics. Neither group is the good guy in that conflict, if you look at it with any intellectual honesty.
As far as "most people concerned", voting suggests that most in the US support Israel, though some support the Palestinians (most of *those* do in fact prattle on about the Jews' conspiracies to take over the US), and some see that two groups killing each other is just bad all around.
It seems to be the nature of warriors, Social Justice warriors and most other kinds, to always take sides. In this case, they've picked the Israeli side. I find that neither surprising nor inconsistent with their core world view that the world is full of weak victims who need a SJW to ride in on a white horse and save them.
First, they came for Pepe the frog.
I didn't speak up, because I was not a Trump supporter...
Then, they infiltrated ICANN and began matching expressions to block registration of new 'hateful' domain names.
Then, the international copyright corpus paid lucrative fees to have trademarks added to the 'hate' blocking database.
Then, root and 1LD servers began returning NXDOMAIN responses to 'non-compliant' names, regardless of prior existence or fees paid.
Then, the servers began returning NXDOMAIN responses even if the 'non-compliant' match was in the subdomain portion.
Then, the servers began silently completing 'non-compliant' name responses to build a database of 'non-compliant' ip addresses.
Then, the tier 1 companies and consortium ISPs began black-holing non-compliant ip addresses.
Then, the tier 1s developed the 'ICMP trace-ping' to centrally log attempts to reach non-compliant ip addresses.
Then, the international non-compliance organization (managed by ICANN) began issuing automated 'takedown' requests for the source ip addresses.
Then, consortium ISPs streamlined the takedown process and modified their TOS to support the suspension of non-compliant service.
Then, the FBI and NSA joined TOR to issue a steady stream of 'non-compliant' traffic to ensure that all onion nodes remain suspended.
Then, countries such as China are maintaining their own clone of the non-compliance framework for their own (eg, Falun Gong) reasons.
Then, 'peace treaties' between countries are negotiated with conditions that member countries mutually share and implement their respective 'non-compliance' framework.
Here, my dystopian Internet vision ends.
Pepe the frog survives, though he is reading a book by candle light.
Don't get me started on non-compliant books.
<blink>down the rabbit hole</blink>
They are worried about a stupid frog cartoon while our world is going to shit What to go United States of America