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FBI Agreed To Destroy Laptops of Clinton Aides With Immunity Deal, Sources Say (foxnews.com)
An anonymous Slashdot reader quotes a report from Fox News: Immunity deals for two top Hillary Clinton aides included a side arrangement obliging the FBI to destroy their laptops after reviewing the devices, House Judiciary Committee sources told Fox News on Monday. Sources said the arrangement with former Clinton chief of staff Cheryl Mills and ex-campaign staffer Heather Samuelson also limited the search to no later than Jan. 31, 2015. This meant investigators could not review documents for the period after the email server became public -- in turn preventing the bureau from discovering if there was any evidence of obstruction of justice, sources said. The Republican-led House Judiciary Committee fired off a letter Monday to Attorney General Loretta Lynch asking why the DOJ and FBI agreed to the restrictive terms, including that the FBI would destroy the laptops after finishing the search. The immunity deals for Mills and Samuelson, made as part of the FBI's probe into Clinton's use of a private email server when she served as secretary of state, apparently included a series of "side agreements" that were negotiated by Samuelson and Mills' attorney Beth Wilkinson. The side deals were agreed to on June 10, less than a month before FBI Director James Comey announced that the agency would recommend no charges be brought against Clinton or her staff. Judiciary Committee aids told FoxNews.com that the destruction of the laptops is particularly troubling as it means that the computers could not be used as evidence in future legal proceedings, should new information or circumstances arise.
who prosecutes them?
The people who signed off on that deal should be prosecuted.
Talk about Trump!
No no no!
Only Trump! Ignore the hypocrisy and double standards! Yell about false equivalence! No no no!
No citizen would get this treatment unless they are well connected and have high powered lawyers. Prosecutors load up the charges on the "regular people" to ensure you don't go to court and they have something to convict you with.
They FBI got hamstrung by the DOJ - hopefully one day a whistleblower will come forward - but it will be long after Clinton is out of office if they're smart.
stop all of the conspiracy garbage since there's no more evidence.
This. This issue has been put to bed for good.
...even if there actually is some wrongdoing at the bottom of this pile of press releases, Clinton is still the more ethical candidate in November.
That said, the pile of press releases goes back two decades and hasn't found much of anything that holds up to any scrutiny so far.
America desperately needs a second political party, so that those frustrated with the state of the Democratic Party don't have to waste their votes on an empty protest candidate.
I mean, Hail Clinton!
At first the immunity deal for Combetta was for destruction, to get him to talk to the FBI after using BleachBit on the server. This is unusual, because he could already have been prosecuted for this since an order was issued which doesn't allow for this. Clinton and her people asked him to do this, which means they could also be prosecuted. Furthermore, I'm genuinely confused why the other 4 immunity deals were offered. Were the 4 others granted immunity because they had a hand in the private server, or were they offered because the DOJ was looking out for them? I'm also confused why they fucking include a provision to destroy laptops (that apparently weren't subpoenaed or seized via warrant like in every other case) as intense scrutiny of this case is going on and Congress is attempting to force further investigation even though the DOJ and FBI are trying to stonewall it.
There's just too much smoke here for anyone to claim that there isn't a fire.
I don't get it.
Yeah totally. Trump talking about the Iraq war on Howard Stern is totally on par with Hillary voting for and funding the murder of 500,000 Iraqis.
False equivalence, Trump Hitler, xenophobic, nazi, Islamophobia, racism, words, words, ignore the Clinton's evil bullshit.
Why did the FBI pardon Clinton's accomplices, and destroyed their laptops?
Why did Martha Stewart go to jail, but Clinton gets to go to the White House?
CNN et al. certainly say Trump is worse. Should we trust them?
sorry, but Trump is a lone idiot. Hillary is an idiot that has been working with idiots doing idiot things as head of the department of state.
Trump is not worse by any meaningful measure.
How the f do I block stories with 'politics' as a tag because I'm sick and tired of one bullshit story after the next.
Bye!
Cognitive dissonance.
I don't get it, isn't that the trade-off? Essentially it's a deal to make the techie's life less risky in exchange for more info about Mrs. C.
But from another perspective, that doesn't mean everyone is equal in the eye of the law: the pawn gets a deal so that the queen can be nailed?
I agree that high-ranking officials deserve more scrutiny, but it does go against "equal justice" to slide on the pawn in order to get at the queen.
Table-ized A.I.
There is no moral high ground for Hillary. She's as low and disgusting as Trump.
Trump will probably lower my taxes, so I'm going to vote for him. Don't really give a shit anymore.
Well, Americans should care. Both parties need to crumble and we should look at the smaller parties for options. We're really picking between these two? No, there are others, and the complains I've heard against them are laughable compared to the major issues I've heard about Trump and Clinton.
Trump is a LOT worse in that he doesn't think before he speaks. That is the main qualification of the President.
The forensics would have been done on a cloned HD anyway:
"Sure we'll destroy the original, but the chain of evidence will clearly link the contents of this HD back to the original HD and implicate you if anything actionable appears in it."
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Clinton is the "stay the course" candidate, and Trump is the "make changes" candidate.
A bit over half of Americans are on the brink of poverty, so a lot of people are looking for things to change.
The other slightly-less-than-half people think things are going pretty well, and don't want anything to change.
Add to this the fact that corporations don't want changes that benefit the American people because of the expense, a media that feeds on emotional investment (for advertizing clicks), and a political party that uses emotional involvement and guilt to gain support (refugees, illegal immigrants, and so on) and you have the situation of today.
Half the nation is hurting badly with no end in sight, the other half thinks that any change whatsoever would be bad for their personal selves.
Even though the Clintons are complete crooks and disgusting people, Trump is even worse. We need to stop this witchhunt. President Chelsea Clinton will get to the bottom of it when she is elected.
The problem with this statement is that it's hollow - there's nothing to back it up. Trump isn't worse, at best he's an unknown.
Trump has been called a narcissist, which is probably fair, but a narcissist is exactly who would make the best president. The one thing that matters most to Trump is his brand.
Trump wants to be the best president in the last 100 years, and if possible the best one ever.
Everything about him points to that one aspect: he wants to win, he wants to be the best at everything.
He's stated in so many words that he wants to change things for the betterment of the people.
Clinton just wants to stay the course.
Found the shill
Wow, you're an idiot. To stop the investigations, we have to destroy the evidence...? Say what? If there was nothing to investigate there would be no need to worry about destroying anything.
Are you a paid Hilary shill?
This is mind blowing.
ALIEANS!
Another consultant who stuck it out.
"We are the Priests, of the Temples of Syrinx..."
Hm...Jill Stein thinks that Science is made up and a matter of popularity. Gary Johnson hasn't been much better (and is more than just a little bit insane).
Where's John McAffee to help people with their perspective?
How the f do I block stories with 'politics' as a tag because I'm sick and tired of one bullshit story after the next.
Is this bullshit?
I thought bullshit meant something "not true". I know that trust in journalism has fallen recently, but do you really think the things stated in the article aren't factual?
At the very least, it shows that IT professionals who might be offered immunity can ask for concessions.
Given the number of IT professionals who read this site, that might make the article of interest to a lot of people.
Or are you complaining because it puts Clinton in a bad light?
No, they're both rock bottom. There is not one better than the other. They're both completely unworthy.
So, which candidate is more likely to get this person their meds?
Maybe that's more important than who cheats more on emails/taxes.
Table-ized A.I.
I'm surprised that there's not a prop bet for this, with an over /under for the number of mails, or number days before...
This immunity deal makes zero sense, unless you're a Clinton. Zero. Why destroy evidence?
...that's no suspicious at all!
Even though the Clintons are complete crooks and disgusting people, Trump is even worse. We need to stop this witchhunt. President Chelsea Manning will get to the bottom of it when she is elected.
TFTFY
I just hope that enough citizens will realize that the Founding Fathers came up with this whole "elections every 2-6 years" notion for a reason. Would YOU please help me in voting against every sorry ass criminal holding office currently or formerly? There shouldn't be more than mebbe a small handful of incumbents remaining come 2017, and they'd better have a damned solid history of exposing and opposing the big $ corruption taking over OUR lives.
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Why not just image the laptop's hard drive? and if needed to go back to further investigate just put the image back but in a virtual machine. Regardless of laws, religions, whatever ideology people will always be people(corrupt) no matter what.
Why choose the lesser evil when you can go for something even worse!
Trump is going to lower HIS (and billionaires like him) taxes. He doesn't give a fuck about you, or your taxes. You're just dumb enough to fall for the red meat he's throwing at you.
Hilary doesn't think at all.
She does whatever Goldman Sachs tells her to.
It's because the strategy of the Left is not to have a debate at all. It's to attempt to silence voices that trigger them. The safe-space mentality is a disease, and it is a disease entirely of the Left.
They don't want to hear about flagrant violations of the law. They don't want to hear about secret meetings on airport tarmacs. They don't want to hear about the hilarious lack of evidence for "Russian" involvement in the DNC hack, or the murder of a young staffer. ("It was a mugging!"). They don't want to hear about tens of millions of "donations" from the banking cartel to the Clintons. They don't even want to notice the bizarre disconnect of calling themselves populists, while the working class sides with Trump. They don't question our supposed "moral" reasons for being in Syria while a million are dead in South Sudan. It goes on and on. These people really are crazy. They practice selective attention at a pathological level. You could present them with a live video of Clinton murdering babies and they would blame the Russians, the Deplorables, White Supremacists and other figments of their imagination.
But like the Brexit vote, they will be utterly shocked (shocked, I tell you) when their little echo chamber implodes at depth.
Manipulated data and manipulated media don't actually change reality. But shhh. Don't tell them that.
They'll just accuse those slinging facts and evidence as "conspiracy theorists", "racists", "mom's basement dwellers", "elitists", "new Right" or any other nonsensical name they can come up with in order to avoid recognizing the truth. And the truth is, that Clinton is a deeply corrupt, corporatist neocon, with a 100% neocon foreign policy, and an anti-populist domestic agenda.
Haha! For once I agree with you. You're probably trolling but whatever. It's either lizard people or the absolute worst that humanity has to offer. I'll go with the Lizard Queen. I mean, Thuban natives aren't really that bad, and a lot of them think that human skin has advantages to offer toward their culture. They're warp-capable and have vastly superior technology to our own, even if that means we have to put up with their moon matrix. I mean, if we're going to take on refugees, why not refugees from a system whose sun is dying?
John May lives!
That makes the FBI complicit in Clinton's crimes. Destruction of evidence is a felony.
-jcr
The only title of honor that a tyrant can grant is "Enemy of the State."
And please describe how the Democratic party is not due for a breakup after being caught throwing the election wholesale to a committee chosen candidate? Funny how no on caught on earlier when the Dem debates stated with only 2 viable candidates, no?
I now know /. has gone to shit for sure. There is no real news on Fox News, only alt-right theories stated as facts.
Hillary said he ALREADY pays zero tax.
Then she said he wants to lower it.
Is Hillary stupid? No, she's just can't help lying.
Translation: we're fucking giant pieces of shit so we only care about the crimes of people who don't have a (D) by their name.
You must be new everywhere
Trump should have taken a different approach. He should have gone back to Desert Storm, accepted that his opposition was lukewarm at best, then pivoted to blame both their houses.
Being an outsider, he could have sold it.
Instead he tries to blame Hillary in a way that doesn't offend either Bush.
Doesn't Trump know he's no H. Ross Perot. He has no heroic stories to fall back on, he can only stick to making it a mess that isn't of his own making.
Of course, the biggest irony is that he wants to pursue a course that is so mindblowingly expensive and brutal that neither Wilson or Roosevelt would be able to sell it.
Cool, so this didn't happen?
The Deal is testify and we will not charge you with a crime.
They gave the FBI what they asked for.
Their Lawyers that they paid Money to to understand the deal add what I assume is a standard clause to protect the clients that paid them money.
Just because they did not find the smoking gun that Fox promised you for 4 years does not mean a conspiracy.
Why not ask Fox why they lied to you that "their sources" found something.
Just do not Post on the "News for Nerds" Site that you do not know why old computers are wiped or destroyed.
He's a dumb asshole, she's demonstrably evil and (once again) you're an idiot.
be as it may, one of the two is going to be president.
not one of the four, or six.
there are ways to reform the system, but voting for someone who is sure to lose is not one of the best ways. you risk effectively favoring the candidate you dislike the most.
"Whenever people agree with me I always feel I must be wrong." (Oscar Wilde)
This email thing is nothing. Colin Powell and most of the Bush administration used private email servers to avoid scrutiny. This is just a witch hunt... just like Benghazi and Whitewater and a bunch of other "scandals". GOP is desperate... they got nothing. They are going down the tubes. It's fun to watch.
I have just one word for Trump... LOSER!
I don't read your sig. Why are you reading mine?
"Back in 2007, the White House "lost" more than five million private emails. The story was barely covered"
Yes, Hillary should not be investigated with any damning evidence whatsoever. She will help heal the country and show us what true change is. If she doesn't, our only hope will be a corrupt businessman with tax-evading skills and courage. I don't think Putin will ever stop with his armies of hackers that are trying to destroy Clinton and her people, but with some more media coverage and PhD-holding posters, I'm pretty sure we can show the country what smart people are all about.
I've heard that a vote for Gary Johnson is a vote for Trump, from the Clinton camp. I've heard that a vote for Gary Johnson is a vote for Clinton, from the Trump camp. And a vote for Gary Johnson is a vote for Gary Johnson. It's the best deal on the market, three votes for one!
If I want to unload obsolete technology, I've got to take time off work and drive through some seedy neighborhoods to the recycling center. Next time, I'll just make a deal with the FBI - I'll bet they pick it up too.
I will vote for Trump.
Nearly all of those things apply to Clinton as well. She too dodged taxes, offended nearly everyone, changed positions on e.g. TPP (not to real, of course, just to get elected). And then there are a number of more serious offenses (influence peddling, mishandling of classified info, lying to the FBI, to name just a few) for which any normal person would be in prison already.
Why are facts suddenly bs?
This election has turned many smart thinking logically minded people into this
This is clearly a troll. Why is it modded insightful?
That's not how conspiracies work.
You make a claim with no reasoning to back it up, and get modded insightful? Did the clinton troll army get mod points today?
In 2016
If you buy those polls, no wonder she has your vote. Hillary is absolutely vile, she's a corrupt-paid-for-puppet that has blood on her foundation. I despise Trump also, I don't want either to win, one is a fascist and the other other an oligarchy.
I don't know what scares me more, the two candidates, or people like you that are so willingly blind to such obvious and documented corruption.
Seriously.
Get a fracking life.
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Problem is that Gary Johnson is an idiot an completely unsuitable for President.
Aleppo.
The time to change the system is always going to be "next election". This one is sooo important, don't give a vote to the "other guy".
As mentioned earlier, the complaints about him are laughable in comparison to the real issues regarding the two major candidates.
What matters is not which candidate actually makes it in. What matters is to what degree the individual voter is a hypocrite. The perfect candidate for everyone is never going to come. The question people need to ask themseves is if they compromise their values to a great extent to vote for someone who actually has a chance to get in, how much are they going to compromise their values in the other parts of their lives. At least that is the philosophy of my family.
opinion...
No, Clinton isn't learning from her mistakes. She looks at the polls and says the public says this is a mistake, so I'll say it is a mistake to win their approval. She has shown zero interest in understanding why any of her so-called mistakes were mistakes.
Bruce, when exactly did you lose your mind? Were you abducted by the DNC and reprogrammed? How does an otherwise brilliant individual fall for obvious propaganda and ignore basic facts? Have you tried looking for a news source outside of CNN, Washington Post, or NPR?
Did they also promise not to make forensic copies of them first? If they did would you believe them?
Trump doesn't publicly admit to mistakes. I don't go out of my way to make my faults known. I learn about why mistakes are mistakes and move on. Actually I do too much revealing to others when I made a mistake that had nothing to do with them and see others doing it that I've coined a saying: "Just because you've done something stupid, doesn't mean that you have to tell everyone about it." Trump just doesn't let his mistakes affect his public image.
I've heard that a vote for Gary Johnson is a vote for Trump, from the Clinton camp. I've heard that a vote for Gary Johnson is a vote for Clinton, from the Trump camp. And a vote for Gary Johnson is a vote for Gary Johnson. It's the best deal on the market, three votes for one!
While that is rhetorically amusing, the reality is that for most people, their presidential vote is unimportant, and vote for a third-party candidate is entirely appropriate as a mechanism to encourage further political discussion in our country--although they should pay more attention to their local races.
But for people who live in swing states, they have the opportunity to influence the election at almost no cost to themselves, and they give that up if they vote for a third party. "Vote Gary Johnson" should not be treated with the dogmatic purity of "Goto considered harmful."
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It's actually worse to destroy the laptop than to slaughter thousands of puppies, because puppies are cute meat-sacks while laptops are a record of government undertakings that people can go to to a limited extent to confirm or deny the reality of what people acting as the government actually did.
Ethics is not a scalar value you can put people's ethics on. I have several different ethical principles that all of the candidates score differently on. When my family votes they use all of them with which to weigh their decisions.
I don't know much about the names of places in the Middle East region, but they really aren't necessary to know the issues involved. Not presidential material, indeed!
Except trump has committed no crimes and has not abused his power of being a public official for his own gain . Hillary has over and over . Not a big trump fan he is unpredictable but that is better than what we know Hillary will do . Lie cheat and steal
Well, you see kiddo, when the laptop contains evidence of crimes against human beings, perhaps even crimes resulting in the unnecessary loss of human, and perhaps even other animal life, then things start to look a little different. If destroying that laptop in no way obstructs justice, then sure, you have a point. The reactions here reflect a concern over the possibility that the destruction did obstruct justice. Troll on monkey.
I rate ethics on a multivariable scale. Hillary's personal enrichment is a necessary evil in the evil of government as outlined by Thomas Hobbes, who was unaware of the necessary consequences of what he was describing. He tried to include elements into one governing entity that couldn't possibly coexist. Hillary's fault that matters to me is that she avoids any attempt to provide a narrative for her actions. I don't believe her strategy is the best way forward and she absolutely fails to account for her tactics.
Look at all the details of clintons time at the state department and how can you ever vote for a women who lied to the face of a man who died in Benghazi . She lied to protect Oboma who would have gone to sure defeat in the 2012 election . Trump has never proven to be that bad . In fact what bad has be done ever approaching that level .
So I'm not here to defend Clinton by any means, but holy crap have you been binging on the Trump kool-aid?
Okian Warrior admitted to making "provocative" posts a few months ago. IOW, he's been trolling for the summer.
I can verify that. Completely true.
tis why we vote for alice cooper..
elected.. selected.. sumpthin sumpthin sumpthin.. for god sakes getting brian johnson back into ac/dc.. whats the question?
HAHAHAHA Hey Sanders boy she has you pegged as living in yo mama's basement.
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Evidence to this is a change in your behavior, right?
Because it's a troll if you take it out of context (meaning in regard to the topic instead of /.'s system), otherwise his response is insightful. After decades, it's safe to say that anonymous speech (ACs) havent been helpful here. My biggest gripe is that is sucks up mod points (which could be doled out based on the number of non-ac posts) that would otherwise help build a community. Instead, I believe it has thinned it.
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that way if Trump wins there is no evidence left to prosecute. The mounting list of crimes is just astounding.
Clinton has dedicated her life to evil. Trump, on the other hand, is nearly amoral. Clinton is bitter and hateful, and will advance the regime of political repression that Obama started. Trump is very bad on free speech and property rights. Clinton is guilty of treason and murder, Trump is nowhere near that range of destruction.
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Didn't read the article, did you? The laptops' data relating to the investigation is not to be destroyed. For security reasons, however, OTHER data is to be destroyed, rather than leaving it lying around 'in custody' for an indefinite period of time. There is no grounds for a search of 'everything' on those drives, and no search warrant covering the incidental information that would be erased. So, the Justice department doesn't care (and, absent this kind of agreement, could be careless in handling the hardware). The 'erase-afterward' agreement is sensible.
Slashdot will still shill for the criminal Hillary.
Hillary uses the slimy dishonesty of a trial lawyer, as befits her training. That she thinks is not a good thing, because her goal is death and destruction,
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so are you a part of their Cannibal Club?
Well, I don't see Trump attempting to launch a second airline or steak company or university, so it's not like he's repeating his mistakes. Whereas, Clinton only acknowledges "mistakes" that are mistakes in the public eye, but continues the evasive behavior that were the hallmarks of the embassy and server mistakes. Her evasiveness is the most egregious mistake I think she continues to make.
There are no "tax-evading" skills here. When you have a capital loss, Form 1040 Schedule D allows you to carry it forward and use it against future capital gains. It's very common standard procedure, which nearly everyone who's had net stock market losses in a year has used. Not only are you permitted to do this, it would be dishonest and probably illegal to do otherwise, because you'd be perjuring yourself on an income tax form.
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Option A) Candidate vows to blow up 50 American cities with nukes.
Option B) Candidate vows to blow up 75 American cities with nukes.
Option A is clearly the only rational choice right?
Yes... there is no more evidence since it has been destroyed. How and when have you become the supreme ruler of the obvious? Unless I missed that your post was sarcasm... if so /apologies.
there are ways to reform the system, but voting for someone who is sure to lose is not one of the best ways. you risk effectively favoring the candidate you dislike the most.
What is a "best" way? Voting for the slightly lesser of two evils is definitely not it. And any reform of the voting system will require overthrow of one or both of the major parties IMHO because they'll otherwise block any such effort.
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I don't believe she's stupid, and in this case, I don't believe she's lying. She's probably talking about him personally not paying income taxes. Then going on to speak about him trying to lower his corporations' tax burden. Y'see the two points do work together in the sense that if he can lessen the corporate tax burden, his income goes up, and he already knows how to keep his personal tax burden at zero.
Doesn't matter who I support, or who you support, just wanted to point out that those two statements, as intended, are not mutually exclusive. A lot of people are assuming a lot of things are mutually exclusive during this election cycle, and that attitude is harmful to us all. For example, there are people who believe you can't be a Trump supporter and care about the plight of people in urban settings. That's obviously flawed thinking. There are also people who believe you can't be a H. Clinton supporter and dislike corruption in government. This is also flawed thinking. (The former because personal frustrations can pretty easily trump [heh, Trump] abstract concerns. The latter because displayed statesmanship does play a legitimate role in international affairs, which should be the primary purview of Federal Government.)
As one AC to another, I'm not trying to swing your vote, your mind is probably made up, but none of us, on either side of the red/blue split (or any shade of purple) should forget that the other side is also made up of the people we should be working with to help make this country (or world, depending on your thoughts about nationality) a better place.
~Mose
Don't need a search warrant for the government to take back its own property from employees, or to retain any and all information stored on a "For Official Use Only" laptop.
There's no excuse for wiping the data. This is a straight forward example of either being terminally incompetent (as in, should be fired terminal) or criminally complicit. Either way, no one important is going to take the hit.
Again
but with any sense, disc images would have been made...
Donald 'Duck' Dunn: We had a band powerful enough to turn goat piss into gasoline.
Even though the Clintons are complete crooks and disgusting people, Trump is even worse. We need to stop this witchhunt. President Chelsea Clinton will get to the bottom of it when she is elected.
How is Trump worse? How many people died from his mistakes?
Jesus was a compassionate social conservative who called individuals to sin no more.
I honestly doubt Trump gives a shit about slashdot, so you'd have to explain better how it's relevant in any context. Furthermore, some AC posts are pretty good, and sometimes there are good reasons for regular users to post as AC. I recall one time a self confessed pedophile posted as AC to explain that even though he was attracted to children, he had never attempted to have sex with one, which if you ask me is a sane thing to do because it doesn't matter whether or not one abuses children, if they confess to even thinking about that then their life is pretty much over, and for no good reason.
Hell, I've posted as AC myself to make some decidedly un-PC jokes that I just don't want associated with my regular identity here. And you know what? There's nothing wrong with that. Sure, some twats get offended, but that's their problem, especially the times when those posts get modded +5 funny.
Sorry, but this is completely false, as it does not match the GP's preconceived idea about what has happened.
Sleep your way to a whiter smile...date a dentist!
I admire the try, but that story turned political immediately with systemd arguments.
"First they came for the slanderers and i said nothing."
I'm positive it can't be from the USA. Only a banana-republic would allow these kind of "deals".
Hilary doesn't think at all.
She does whatever Goldman Sachs tells her to.
Goldman Sachs and the Muslim Brotherhood with MB member Huma Abedin's fist up her cunt like a ventriloquist's dummy.
The amazing part is how Huma's arm hasn't turned black and fallen off.
But go ahead. Vote for Hitlery. Or Drumph. It doesn't matter. Both are equally bad in different ways and in many of the same ways, too.
As long as the wrong lizard doesn't get in, right? Are all you (D)&(R) voters *really* that gullible? Ah well, they say people get the government they deserve. If true it sure ain't gonna be pretty regardless of whether the turd sandwich or giant douche wins.
Battle of the shills. Game on!
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...not laptops. Old hardware can still put into useful service.
Add to that, Clinton is a Washington insider, Trump is not. They're both going to try to do bad things, but the establishment hates Trump and will try to stop him. Clinton might actually succeed.
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I think those emails are still floating around the darkweb :)
I can't help but wonder if FBI made sure that everybody within the scope of the investigation didn't have a reason to snitch on maybe all the others.
So I am wondering if one of them was to talk, maybe everybody would be in trouble.
I keep hearing and reading all about this case and clearly the FBI was not the FBI in doing this investigation. You don't grant so much immunity unless you have a much bigger target. What's more troubling is the left controls the media, has had significant influence in government and has tried very hard to demonize the right.
What people should be concerned about is that this kind of influence and control is what's dangerous and it's not the Donald Trump's of the world who are evil. It's the Hillary Clinton's who are above the law and can do as they please without threat of punishment. Be careful what the devil calls evil.
Sorry, no. Personal enrichment is NOT a "necessary evil." There are plenty of politicians that don't exit their office with 9-digit bank accounts.
She might be the most corrupt politician since Nixon, and that's really saying something.
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Comey is boning and licking split for Hillary DoJ God.
Yes, the source matters. But the content matters more.
If the story is factual, it is deeply troubling.
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Trump is nowhere near that range of destruction.
Nowhere near that range of destruction so far. Trump is the greatest! Give him nukes and he'll get there! He's even better than Kim Il Un, Trump scored a 17 on a round of golf, beating Kim's loser 18 score.
Why destroy evidence?
Because there is a greater than zero chance of a political shift in the Department of Justice come January. Should that happen, they wouldn't want to have the ability to actually indict and prosecute, would they?
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I've always felt that is Machiavelli were alive today, he'd look at Clinton and say "Bitch, I was joking. Turn it down a notch or two"
s/This election/All presidential elections/
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I don't know what scares me more, the two candidates, or people like you that are so willingly blind to such obvious and documented corruption.
It's a lifetime of exposure to cultural and ideological propaganda combined with careful mass media/information and educational system manipulation and a culturally-encouraged individual intellectual laziness & apathy towards studying history or learning how to think critically. Many spend their entire lives operating almost exclusively from emotion and impulse and have little balance between logical, critical thought and emotional impulse when certain emotional keys are triggered. The spread of the same phenomenon may have also partly contributed to the increasing unemployment, incarceration, and recidivism numbers over the past few decades.
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Progressivism (aka US 'Liberalism'): Ideas so good they need a police/surveillance-state to enforce.
Trump has a federal lawsuit against him, claiming he raped a 13 year old girl repeatedly. There is also a witness to the acts, along with a little side story about how Trump and Epstein got into an argument because Trump took the girl's virginity when Epstein wanted to be the one.
What happened is not normal (i.e. everyone gets to do this). Real estate developers have a special callout in the tax code (see: https://www.law.cornell.edu/cf...) because they have paid off the Congress. The result is that qualified "real estate professionals" with certain other qualifications get to take 'net operating losses' that non professionals do not. NOL is not the same as capital loss.
The more people I meet, the better I like my dog.
I hear you,
but the the first thing you want is a mainstream debate on IF, and HOW, the electoral system can be made better.
[Mainstream means: people get stuff about it on their facebook feed, see the topic on the opinion page of their favorite newspaper, hear about it on TV etc. This is currently not happening. ]
There are probably ways to make the electoral system better - and there are almost certainly ways to screw up royally.
Let's face it: With all the faults you may find, the current system has historically served the U.S. people well. Some reforms are probably a good idea, but we better come up with something really, really smart.
"Whenever people agree with me I always feel I must be wrong." (Oscar Wilde)
None of that means it was improper for Trump to take the write-off, or for the tax code to include it. If you have a business in a volatile market (pork bellies, solar panels, real estate, whatever) and lose $500k your first year but make $1M the next, should you have to pay taxes on $1M or just on the $500k net profit? (Example cribbed from Megan McArdle, who has more insightful observations on the topic.)
and CIA agreed to kill couple of witnesses as part of the plea bargain deal, no biggie.
Who logs in to gdm? Not I, said the duck.
clinton is a broken, rickety fence with a coat of white-wash; trump is a broken, rickety fence (as is). i hope all those good folks out there are not fooled by that pretty white-wash.
bill - slime 1.0
hillary - slime 2.0
He doesn't seem to recognize his mistakes at all. After that unhinged Twitter rant against a former Miss Universe, the following morning he called up Fox news for a phone interview. The hosts carefully avoided talking about his lunacy, so he brought it up himself. The look on their faces is priceless.
If he is that bad at managing his own image and recognizing when to shut up, how is he going to do in international negotiations or when trying to get his own adopted party to agree to his nonsense?
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SJW, n: "Someone I don't like, and by the way I'm a fuckwit" - AC
I'm a Democrat who will be voting for Trump, because she is a lying cheating, possibly muderous individual. The office of the Presidency is too important to be sold to corporations and the rich.
... then compare them to Shrillery's crowds... if you actually get to see them on the MSM.
And you still believe the JEWISH media's lies about the polls showing the candidates as being neck and neck?
Well, Americans should care. Both parties need to crumble and we should look at the smaller parties for options. We're really picking between these two? No, there are others, and the complains I've heard against them are laughable compared to the major issues I've heard about Trump and Clinton.
If the pathetic candidates of the current two-party system were not enough of a justification for the American People to put forth some effort to establish a third party, I have no fucking idea what the hell it's gonna take in the future to do so.
We're pretty much doomed.
stop all of the conspiracy garbage since there's no more evidence.
Because the world just stopped with the "conspiracy garbage" when Lee Harvey Oswald was shot, right?
Needless to say, the act of physically destroying evidence tends to shine a light directly back on the issue at hand. The truth is being buried here, and that's hardly something hidden in conspiracy or leaving us theorizing as to why it's happening.
be as it may, one of the two is going to be president.
But I would prefer that the one who wins gets something like 35% (Johnson has a good showing) or 27% (Johnson and Stein have a good showing) of the popular vote so it becomes clear that the majority of people don't want what the major parties are selling.
Time to offend someone
False dichotomy too
Trump university? Paying no taxes?
To suggest DT doesn't lie, cheat and steal is seriously putting your head in the sand and yelling so you can't hear anyone.
His entire platform seems to be run off of meme pictures -he's even posted a few on official channels, and we all know how reliable those are
I post as an AC because I can't remember my username or password. Nor do I want to, it's just another one of the thousands to remember now that we're in the digital age. It's hard enough to login at work everyday. Never had to do that with a pencil.
So I've become an old fart...
This reads like satire.
I honestly doubt Trump gives a shit about slashdot
I think you meant to say "I honestly doubt Trump has ever heard of slashdot."
Stated more simply:
Hillary = Stalin. Kills many behind the scenes. You'll never hear of what actually happened until possibly well into the future. the long slide to being a shithole begins and accelerates as The System becomes the Law of the Land and only after total governmental failure will the full extent of the crimes committed be revealed. At least said failure will take decades to become reality.
Trump = Hitler. Motivate thousands of people to overlook Crimes against Humanity. Wars whenever it suits him. Fiddling in everything without a clue, to the detriment of anything touched. While at least the massive crimes are pre-announced, the entire country is destroyed within years of taking office.
[IndyJones-LC voice] You must choose
I disagree with you on this. Trump is egotistical. He's boorish and crude. He often speaks without thinking first. He's reactionary and short-tempered. Given the choice of candidates in the Republican primary, he'd be second last on my list (just ahead of Jeb). But he's not rock bottom like Hillary is. She's got 40 years of exploiting her and Bill's public office positions for personal gain. After seeing the details of the email scandal, it's clear as day that she should be behind bars for her actions. The Clinton Foundation should be shut down. It's nothing but a money laundering machine for the Clintons. How can anyone vote for Hillary knowing she was accepting money from foreign entities in order to make favorable decisions regarding business they had with the State Department? She sold out the US government for personal gain. She set up an email server in order to protect her communications from being seen. She's the biggest crook the US government has ever known, yet she's on the verge of becoming President?
Anymore than Hillary not taxing Apple and not closing the carried interest loop hole.
Politics are not law is why. Asmuch as you might want everyone to chase every internet post that that you think favors your side that is called oppression not freedom of a nation of laws. MK
among green & libertarian. Green are just impractical wide eyed fools likely to cause the same sort of problems Chairmen Mao did with his great leap and Libertarians will just create a dystopian out of the power vacuum the Mega-corps rush in to fill when they tear down the gov't (ya know all those burdensome regulations got passed for a reason besides making libertarians mad, right?).
I wouldn't mind seeing a parliamentary system like Canada. But barring that I don't see any options. Keep in mind our system of constitutional gov't was designed to create stability for wealthy landowners so they working class wouldn't take their land and money away. The fundamentals (e.g. our constitution) are busted, but since you're taught to revere the constitution in grade school while you're mind is young and vulnerable you're pretty much stuck.
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Murdoch you are a moron. foreign entities dont have to live with the aftermath so say anything true or not.
Federal election committee thinks this is treason and wants it stopped.
After this election they wont be allowed to Murdoch and any other country wanting ti influence our elections wont have an open platform lie fox to do it.
Let's ask Seth Rich what he thinks about all this. No, wait. He is dead. God damn it.
it always has been
Remember kids, if you're not paying for the service, YOU ARE THE PRODUCT THAT IS BEING SOLD.
Except trump has committed no crimes and has not abused his power of being a public official for his own gain . Hillary has over and over . Not a big trump fan he is unpredictable but that is better than what we know Hillary will do . Lie cheat and steal
I see that claim over and over. Make a list with actual proof. It'll be short, likely numbering 0. There's plenty of conspiracy covering anyone in politics. Much is unsubstantiated and done for political gain. Some is based on truth and buried.
note - i'm not pro-hillary, because I don't like her for lots of reasons, but in this case it's more a vote against a neo-fascist wannabe hitler than anything else. Compare trump's rallies to some early and mid 30s speeches by hitler. pay attention to the emotional rousing terms used and repeated to raise the mass energy of the crowds to a fever pitch. It should worry you.
Clinton is unlikable, Trump is mentally incompetent and outright dangerous.
The cesspool just got a check and balance.
Didn't you mean Emperor Chelsea Clinton?
Brilliance without wisdom, power without conscience. Ours is a world of nuclear giants and ethical infants.
After Al Gore lost the 2000 election (and yes, he really did lose, The New York Times did an in-depth analysis after the election of votes cast, showing al Gore lost fair and square), Democrats ran around with their hair on fire, arguing that we MUST roll out, expensive, vulnerable, and frail electronic voting ASAP to avoid another 'uncertain' election outcome. Fast-forward 16 years, now Democrats are running around with their hair on fire, insisting that THE RUSSIANS are going to upset the coming election, and the only solution is for DHS to provide 'oversight' in all elections this November 'just in case' those pesky Russians try anything. The sitting party wants the ability to second-guess every state election, presumably with the ability to invalidate results they find 'suspect' - sounds great, doesn't it?
You guys are speculating out of your ass. You ain't no fucking lawyers. Go ahead and mod me to oblivion for telling the goddam truth: they are guessing; eat it!
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...the 22 MILLION emails lost by the Bush Administration?
Seriously, this fucking witch-hunt over Benghazi is a joke and a distraction from reality. It's like everyone forgot about the 3000+ service members who died in a war started under suspicious circumstances, or the fact that Congress has completely disregarded their obligations to hold confirmation hearings on a Supreme Court nominee.
We're doing exactly that the GOP want.
Edit: Appropriate captcha - Congress
"Mr. Pagliano told investigators, he approached Ms. Mills to relay State Department concerns that the private server might pose a "federal records retention issue." According to Mr. Pagliano, Ms. Mills told him not to worry about it, because other secretaries of state had used similar setups."
If that's the case, then she didn't understand or know the distinction between an outside service and a personal server. (It actually makes no difference from a legal standpoint, but I'm looking at the "lie" claim here.)
An AOL "technician" and a personal server technician perhaps would be no different to her. She didn't "see" either. I work with non-IT people all the time that wouldn't understand that distinction unless explicitly and carefully explained.
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After Al Gore lost the 2000 election (and yes, he really did lose, The New York Times did an in-depth analysis after the election of votes cast, showing al Gore lost fair and square), Democrats ran around with their hair on fire, arguing that we MUST roll out, expensive, vulnerable, and frail electronic voting ASAP to avoid another 'uncertain' election outcome.
Fast-forward 16 years, now Democrats are running around with their hair on fire, insisting that THE RUSSIANS are going to upset the coming election, and the only solution is for DHS to provide 'oversight' in all elections this November 'just in case' those pesky Russians try anything.
The sitting party wants the ability to second-guess every state election, presumably with the ability to invalidate results they find 'suspect' - sounds great, doesn't it?
How does this relate with the opportunity, or not, to have a debate on the overall electoral system? No irony, just an open question.
The sitting party, either one, is sitting because it has been voted.
Am I missing your point entirely?
"Whenever people agree with me I always feel I must be wrong." (Oscar Wilde)
Newsflash!!! None of the candidates give a fuck about you, your taxes, your family, your dog, your neighbors... all they care about is your vote and getting enough of them to get into office so they can do the Bare Minimum Required to not get assassinated or impeached.
Besides, Hillary already said she would RAISE taxes on the MIDDLE class. As if it hasn't already shrunk enough. If they need more money, maybe they should take a hint from the Panama Papers and start going after the scum that use legal loopholes to avoid paying any tax at all.
It's easy for Trump to have "committed no crimes and has not abused his power of being a public official for his own gain" when he hasn't held public office.
OMG, I have a hangnail! Better amputate! At the neck!
Seriously, destroying the entire laptop? Why not just replace the drive?
I defy you to even state the US's objective in Syria to begin with. How are we to measure success for that particular military intervention? The real story about Aleppo is the foreign policy mess that Clinton bears much responsibility for. In fact, Johnson is an avid opponent of regime change. Did you even catch the fact that, in their rush to discredit Johnson, the New York Times misidentified Aleppo itself?
It's advantageous to Clinton for this stale "Aleppo" gaffe to remain in the news: She feels the threat of a candidate who won't be afraid to call her out on all of her BS with specific statistics and actual plans (e.g. her criminal justice reform proposal based on "investing in trust" rather that ending the unsuccessful "war on drugs").
This stupid gaffe is still in the news, and yet the Clinton email story has somehow slipped under the radar, even as more evidence of wrongdoing is exposed. I'm surprised that you didn't mention the "world leader" gaffe. That's not as juicy, though, because it's relatively easy to find the actual interview with the *actual* question that Johnson was asked: "Name one world leader *that you admire.*" So, the "unable to name a world leader" thing is pretty much moot.
I understand why ill-informed sheep would continue to perpetuate the "Gary is an idiot" meme, but wake up and look at the issues. The mainstream media are Clinton shills with a vested interest in discrediting Johnson as much as possible leading up to the election (and, skirting the real issues that Clinton won't ever resolve).
I do find some comfort in this election, though: The lack of credibility of mainstream media in the US is clearer than ever. And, I dare say, the fact that millenials-- who consume 0% of old media-- support Johnson speaks to the fact that a campaign's saavy use of new media to raise awareness and offer fuller, non-biased information can make a huge difference. No, you won't see that side of this election story in mainstream media. To me, this signals one more step on the path to the death of mainstream media, and the rise of social media as the source for real journalism.
Clinton is guilty of treason and murder
Could you please provide me a link to the court decisions that found her guilty? Since treason and murder are two separate crimes, they would necessarily have been be two different cases -- so I'll be interested in links to both.
Since there were guilty verdicts in both cases, I'll also need links that document the outcome of the penalty phases of the two cases. If Hillary was sentenced to prison for those crimes, I'll be interested in the details about when and where she served her prison sentence(s).
Once I receive these links, I'll forward them to the New York Times, so they can be featured on tomorrow's front page.
Please try to get these links to me within the next 12 hours if you can, so I don't miss today's NYT deadline. You can go ahead and just respond to this post -- I'll keep checking throughout the day.
Thanks in advance.
In the future a GOP president will try to fire these corrupt turkeys, but then the media will tell us they are "politically motivated firings".
And can't disobey the media, right?
Looked this up, this person 13 "Katie Johnson" you name doesn't' exist, its a hoax or a political hack job like your comment. At least Breitbart isn't a fricken DNC hack like most of these media sites.
Hillary said he ALREADY pays zero tax.
To be more specific: Hillary speculated that he pays zero tax. During her public statement on this, she essentially admitted that she didn't really know the exact reason that Trump does not disclose his tax returns. If you want to hear her exact words, I suggest viewing the YouTube video of the presidential debate.
Then she said he wants to lower it.
Citation needed. The general consensus in the mainstream media is that Hillary predominantly advocates for raising taxes on the rich. It's pretty easy to get video clips of Hillary explicitly stating, essentally, "I want to raise taxes on the rich". If you're interested in seeing those clips, I might, again, suggest YouTube.
Is Hillary stupid? No, she's just can't help lying.
So let me get this straight:
(1) Hillary speculates that Trump might be paying zero income tax.
(2) A preponderance of the evidence points to Hillary stating her intention to raise taxes on the rich.
(3) You put (1) and (2) together and conclude that she's lying about something?
Just fyi: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/lisa-bloom/why-the-new-child-rape-ca_b_10619944.html
Suddenly conservatives are "bothered" by influence peddling. What changed, you Citizens-United-ruling huggers?
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Sigh, but most people aren't taking losses for borrowed money that the banks wrote off. Which is exactly what it appears that Trump did. Had a good explanation on the news the other day. Trump finances a new building. Puts in 1 million of his own money and borrows 99 million from a bank. Project goes no where and the $100 million is lost. Bank writes off $99 million. Trump writes loses $1 million but declares a loss of $100 million on his taxes legally. So he is offsetting personal income with losses he didn't actually have personally. All legal at the time, but shady as hell in my opinion.
Conspiracy garbage? Really? You don't think there's a conspiracy here?
Dude, seriously, get yourself a psych eval. You're suffering the worst kind of mental illness: liberalism.
> I honestly doubt Trump gives a shit about slashdot, so you'd have to explain better how it's relevant in any context.
Just because you don't understand the context, doesn't mean the debate doesn't exist. As is obvious from the content, it has nothing to do with Trump so that's a non sequitur or a disingenuous derail attempt. Quibbling about the type of trolling is not productive anyway. That's statistically, the use of AC on /. - At least between us, there's some accountability, unlike the ACs that pepper this thread.
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Everyone knows me.
Not speaking about your mistakes is one thing. Doubling down on the stupidity you might say is quite different. Trump has done this repeatedly and acts like he should be admired for doing so.
I don't mind people making mistakes. But going all in on the mistakes is just insane.
It's just SOP, nothing to worry about.
I don't know about Ken Hansen, but an obvious problem here is that we're moving the wrong way to get a public debate on better voting systems.
The laptops were used by the attorneys that filtered through Hillary's emails to determine which were personal and which were not.
These attorney's also used them for other clients.
Turning the laptops over would be a violation of attorney-client privilege and would have the potential to greatly damage those other clients and the attorneys reputation.
So, the relevant data was copied off the laptops and the laptops were then destroyed to prevent the possibility of that happening.
No, you're stupid.
He paid zero taxes for the LAST 18 years. He's trying to setup himself up for the NEXT eighteen years you ignorant fucking neck beard.
Have you actually watched or read the transcript of the entire interview, or did you stop at "What's Aleppo?" He got clarification, then went on to give an intelligent answer. It was the first question on foreign policy after a discussion of American politics and the viability of third parties. A lot of people might be momentarily confused by the context switch. You may choose not to believe him, but he later tweeted out that he thought he was being asked about something like ALEPO, some acronym for a law or treaty he wasn't familiar with.
No presidential material, indeed was meant in the sense that it was contemptuous to think that he wasn't presidential material simply because he might be bad with names.
Brothers and sisters to the south, I have been watching... I gotta say, this is the weirdest political thing i've seen in my life, yes even weirder than the blowjob fiasco in the 90's.
You are forced to choose between a weird tycoon with no experience and a bizarre temperament, and a Warhawk democrat who by our standards would have been tossed out of government over the e-mail thing.
Im having a hard time making a canadian version of your election... im guessing Dennis Oleery from dragons den as trump vs... somebody ive never seen in Canadian politics as Clinton. A pro-war Olivia Chow?
Giant douche meets turd sandwich. Seriously, y'all need to look at a 3rd candidate.
What's mind blowing is giving people immunity - and in the deal specifying that they can't testify before Congress - and then filing no charges but keeping the immunity deal intact.
It's not just unusual - it's simply not done. It violates every principle of the constitution and the purpose of immunity. You can't give someone immunity and dictate they have immunity from congressional oversight... And if you give someone immunity and then there is no crime, then they didn't commit a crime either, and the immunity is lifted.
It's not a "conspiracy theory" to understand why this was done. Obama was communicating with Hillary using a pseudonym, all communications made by the President are, by definition secret. If this was every publicly acknowledged in a court of law Hillary would be finished, and Obama's legacy would be destroyed, it would be hard for die hard Democrat ideologues to go against impeachment proceedings. It was done for the good of the country, which sometimes means we all get fucked... In the end the voters will decide in November.
The conspiracy is a willing media who isn't doing their job, but that's old news.
Murphy was an optimist
But that's the whole point, isn't it? People are sick and tired of career politicians. Like it or not eight years of Obama acting the same as Bush on so many levels got us an electorate that wants "Mr. Smith Goes to Washington".
Murphy was an optimist
When Clinton was Secretary of State, she liked what the TPP was turning into. Years later, when she'd been out of the negotiation process, she didn't like what it had turned into.
The FBI did not recommend criminal prosecution for negligence with classified materials, because people who do that sort of thing are not criminally prosecuted. If you disagree, please give me the name of one person who was similarly negligent and faced serious criminal prosecution.
"When you have eliminated the unacceptable, whatever is left, however improbable, must be the truthiness" - Holmes
No other party produces Presidential candidates that could function in the job. The Democrats since 1972, and the Republicans up until now, have had to consider what their nominees would actually do if they were elected. If you don't have to worry about that, it's easy to find an ideologically acceptable and good-looking candidate.
"When you have eliminated the unacceptable, whatever is left, however improbable, must be the truthiness" - Holmes
I see that claim over and over. Make a list with actual proof. It'll be short, likely numbering 0.
Dude, the FBI found Top Secret satellite imagery on her private email server. The email server itself is also illegal, even without the classified stuff.
That's two.
Kristian Saucier
Nobody devotes their life to evil. There is no more a regime of political oppression in the US than there ever was. Clinton is not guilty of treason (there's a Constitutional definition for that), and there's no good evidence she ever murdered anyone.
"When you have eliminated the unacceptable, whatever is left, however improbable, must be the truthiness" - Holmes
In other words, the DNC favored who they thought would be the best candidate. Is there some sort of sinister subtext I'm supposed to be picking up on? (I'm not necessarily good with subtleties.) Political parties are not governments, and have no obligation to be neutral.
"When you have eliminated the unacceptable, whatever is left, however improbable, must be the truthiness" - Holmes
There is no grounds for a search of 'everything' on those drives,
Actually there is grounds to search for evidence pertaining to the illegal destruction of the server's data by Hildog and company. What was said after the fact to cover up these acts? Maybe there was incriminating evidence that they had been in touch with the FBI to cover all this up. Now we will never know.
I deal with digital evidence everyday does this case mean that I don't have to worry any more if I delete evidence? If I delete data am I covered with immunity? So its now ok for me to delete evidence say in a rape case and let the rapist go free?
And this time both of those parties failed. Next candidate.
as if it were news?
Rounds and rounds of bluster about a conspiracy which even Trey Gowdy has no evidence to support, and we know how little HE needs to declare "victory over Hillary"
If one lives in a state that trump or Clinton is clearly going to win, one may as well vote for Johnson - assuming you don't care much for trump or Clinton.
Gary Johnson has 3 very good qualities that make him worthy of my vote:
1: He's not trump
2: He's not Clinton
3: He's not going to win
HEY! BE sure it was not one of MY stolen laptops and the AIDE got it *somehow*!!! This is serious, last important one was stolen on last Monday 13.
Maintain the stalemate between Sunni and Shia?
Without saying so.
John McAfee 'It was like that time I hired that Bangkok prostitute; to do my taxes, while I fucked my accountant'
Just because you don't understand the context, doesn't mean the debate doesn't exist. As is obvious from the content, it has nothing to do with Trump
Are you high? Here, let me quote it for you:
Desperate Donald, there's no point...in submitting posts as an AC. We all recognize your style, roll our eyes at the bigoted and desperate moron, then we move along.
The ability/necessity to reap financial benefits does not begin at the 9 digit mark. Sure, not all are as successful, but that doesn't mean it isn't happening to various degrees. If it wasn't, that might be a news story.
There are still pending lawsuits and congressional subpoenas for the information on those computers, and the Obama admin made a sneaky side deal with Clinton people (therefore: members of the Obama admin) to put a legal veneer on the act of having the Democrat FBI destroy the records of the Democrat defendants to help .
Oh fuck you! You guys started it. Why are we refusing to debate? A: because you guys refuse to budge. Don't like something? Not gonna have a vote and piss us off more and we'll defund the whole fucking government! Oh and we hate you guys so fuck your nominee for Supreme Justice. B: we have debated over and over and over and over again. You guys won't listen. We're tired.
This is a pretty absurd set of lies.
1. The Clintons aren't receiving funds from the Clinton Foundation.>br> 2. The money trail out of the Clinton Foundation is very clear, irrespective of the trail in.
http://www.factcheck.org/2015/...
Do you just make up whatever you feel like, or do you get this from someone else having made it up?
Dave Kelsen
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If you fall for a clown, don't be surprised if he makes fun of your feelings.
Lynch resigned in 2001 to join the law firm of Hogan & Hartson. This is the same law firm that represented the company, MXLogic. MXLogic was the company Hillary first used to set up her private email server and account. Executives from this law firm have also donated to the Clintons.
At the end of the day, how do we have Lynch, previously appointed by Bill Clinton and former employee of the law firm that is connected to Hillary's email scandal, in charge of the investigation into Hillarys email scandal, with the lead investigative agency led by a man who twice investigated the Clintons and both times found them not guilty of wrongdoing, also appointed by the current U.S. President, who appointed Lynch, who is Comey's boss?!? And Comey and Lynch have known each other for decades as well.
How was this investigation to have ever been legitimate????
I can't see politico.com through the wall here, and typing that name into Wikipedia is futile. Could you tell me what you're trying to say? It would help if you cited a more reliable-appearing source.
"When you have eliminated the unacceptable, whatever is left, however improbable, must be the truthiness" - Holmes
In a normal election cycle, this is true. In this one, he's the star pupil.
Our choices:
1-Criminal politician who makes bad decisions.
2-Idiotic businessman with an ego problem.
3-But.. but... but... the planet! woman
4-Essentially honest guy who doesn't know enough.
I'm going for #4
Accessed it at home. It's about a sailor that took a picture in a "classified engine room", which is intentionally doing something against the law, as opposed to Clinton's negligence. The dividing line between felony prosecution and no prosecution appears to be whether the act is intentional or a result of negligence, and not what classified material is involved. Clinton had no intention of leaking classified material. Saucier's phone, with the classified picture, was found in a dump (the article didn't say whether it was military or civilian), which suggests no particular care in making sure the picture didn't get into the wrong hands, and that's what kicked off the investigation.
It may well be that taking pictures in classified areas is common aboard submarines, and is handled administratively (although you'd think being demoted one rank would be something of a deterrent), and if the case had started before there was any possible dissemination, and Saucier had fessed up, it seems likely that he'd have been demoted or something. The fact that he destroyed evidence can''t have helped him either.
So another case of criminal intent vs. negligence. Nothing new here.
"When you have eliminated the unacceptable, whatever is left, however improbable, must be the truthiness" - Holmes
Trump is like Ronald Reagan - a bigoted media figure who claims to be able to return everyone to the golden age. "No new taxes" and "wealth will literally trickle down into your mouth" Reagan said (Google trickle down+Reagan) while he then raised taxes on the middle class, lowered them for rich people and then ignored AIDs as a moral disease and waged a dirty war with legally elected governments AKA democracies. All in the name of ideology and a belief in wealth and astrology. This is the same kind of rhetoric Napoleon Hill uses in his book "Think and grow rich" - adopted by new agers and preachers alike - the secret being "if you think it, it will come" Just like a Horatio Alger book. Trump university was an outright scam. Read the play books - http://static.politico.com/25/88/783a0dca43a0a898f3973da0086f/trump-university-playbook.pdf
I. Oils go on but you little people bore me.
Why isn't there more outrage? The FBI is aiding and abetting criminals and destroying evidence that future prosecutors could use against them. All this in an attempt to elect a traitor, serial liar and crook to the presidency. History books will remember these as dark times, because supposedly good people stood by and did nothing.
Note that it was Bill Clinton who wanted that tax loophole for his rich, property-owning friends.
Examine even your most deeply held beliefs. Nobody is always right.
The dividing line between felony prosecution and no prosecution appears to be whether the act is intentional or a result of negligence, and not what classified material is involved. Clinton had no intention of leaking classified material... So another case of criminal intent vs. negligence.
So you're saying that the difference is that Saucier intended to break the law, and Clinton was negligent? Interesting, because the actual law says that negligent conduct is sufficient for it to be a violation of the law. (Let's leave aside just how possible it is to negligently set up a series of six Exchange servers.)
Saucier's phone, with the classified picture, was found in a dump (the article didn't say whether it was military or civilian), which suggests no particular care in making sure the picture didn't get into the wrong hands, and that's what kicked off the investigation.
It may well be that taking pictures in classified areas is common aboard submarines, and is handled administratively (although you'd think being demoted one rank would be something of a deterrent), and if the case had started before there was any possible dissemination, and Saucier had fessed up, it seems likely that he'd have been demoted or something.
I'd double check the article. The investigation kicked off when Saucier turned himself in.
The fact that he [Saucier] destroyed evidence can't have helped him either.
Dude, you're replying to a Slashdot article titled "FBI Agreed To Destroy Laptops of Clinton Aides With Immunity Deal, Sources Say." It really hurts your efforts to correct the record when you show so little self awareness.
I'll vote for option C that asks what a nuke is.
APK likes to ask for responses to the same things over and over. Maybe he just likes the responses?
I'd vote for McAfee, he at least would be entertaining.
APK likes to ask for responses to the same things over and over. Maybe he just likes the responses?