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Will Trump Protect America's IT Workers From H-1B Visa Abuses? (cio.com.au)
Monday president-elect Donald Trump sent "the strongest signal yet that the H-1B visa program is going get real scrutiny once he takes office," according to CIO.
Slashdot reader OverTheGeicoE summarizes their report:
President-elect Donald Trump released a video message outlining his policy plans for his first 100 days in office. At 1 minute, 56 seconds into the message, he states that he will direct the Department of Labor to investigate "all abuses of the visa programs that undercut the American worker." During his presidential campaign, Trump was critical of the H-1B visa program that has been widely criticized for displacing U.S. high-technology workers. "Companies are importing low-wage workers on H-1B visas to take jobs from young college-trained Americans," said Trump at an Ohio rally. At other rallies, Trump invited former IT workers from Disney who had been forced to train their H-1B replacements to speak.
"What he didn't say was that he was going to close the door to skilled immigrants," one tech entrepreneur told CNN Money -- although Trump's selection for attorney general has called the shortage of qualified American tech workers "a hoax".
"What he didn't say was that he was going to close the door to skilled immigrants," one tech entrepreneur told CNN Money -- although Trump's selection for attorney general has called the shortage of qualified American tech workers "a hoax".
As with all things Trump, you'll never know until he does it. The best "advice" I saw was to ignore the mouth in front of the man.
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Go to the transition website. Use the feature to submit an idea and tell them about H1B abuse. I did. Probably does nothing. Couldn't hurt. Tell them if your company is doing it. Name names and give numbers. I did. Probably does nothing. Couldn't hurt.
Remember folks, in many cases companies will simply offshore the work if they don't perceive American labor as the most cost-effective option.
In some cases, the most cost-effective option is to cancel the project and use the money for something elsez
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Look at who he is stocking his cabinet with... If you think he is going to do anything to protect workers, you drank too much of the koolaid.
Now it's just abuses? Didn't he promise to eliminate it entirely?
Which is it?
Despite the things you expect him to fuck up, he will probably do some beneficial things, too... with an eye towards beneficial is in the eye of the beholder.
Geeesh! Are there no wives tales left?
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It seems that he is turning into a politician really fast. By February, they will have him reeled in.
The most common usage I see in Seattle is through contracting firms. Usually Indian 'mom and pop' ones that already have their green card running several H1B 'spots'. If you are an immigrant, you pay in to them for the opportunity to be hired for a job through their company. So you get to live in the US and go on interviews till someone hires you, then you pay that time off by getting shit pay while they charge 5 or 6 times more than they pay you. Consulting and contract companies should never be allocated H1B.
No jobs for americans is how it'll probably go either way. He'll have to do something really great to change this.
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Hard to say for sure since Trump himself probably doesn't know but I found this quote interesting:
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"Bruce Josten, the chief lobbyist at the United States Chamber of Commerce, said he had already been in communication with members of Mr. Trump's transition team, as the chamber pushes its priorities like securing approval for the Keystone Pipeline, the oil pipeline project blocked by the Obama administration, or reopening more federal lands to oil and gas exploration."
"The chamber already knows there are certain items Mr. Trump has said he will not support, like the current versions of trade deals with Asia or comprehensive changes in the nation's immigration laws, which the chamber pushed during Mr. Obama's tenure. But there are aspects of each of these plans, like increasing the number of visas for highly skilled foreign workers, that Mr. Josten said he expects Mr. Trump to endorse.
Source: http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/11/us/politics/lobbyists-trump.html
The H1B visa workers help foster profits for the top mangers of the companies that employ them. Donald Trump's policies are _all_ aimed at putting power and money in the hands of the wealthy. It should be trivial, as the president and with a Rep8ublican congress, to "reduce H1B visas" for his supporting voters but leave in large loopholes to protect their broad corporate use.
"Will Trump Protect America's IT Workers From H-1B Visa Abuses?"
No.
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Those who use the H1B system and return home are better equipped to compete and BEAT the USA at their own game.
Believe me, I've been there done that, trained my Indian 'nodding donkey' replacement.
The H1B is a perfect system to train the Indian workers that will make India No2 after China.
Get used to being a 3rd world power USA you asked for it.
Yep. If he gets out of line the GOP congress will impeach him on any one of his many real scandals resulting in Mike Pence as president.
There are split teams: An American team as well as an Indian team. We've been doing this since the late nineties. And over the years, the ratio of American/Indian work has steadily fell.
It boosts the ROI of the product. And that's what's gonna continue to happen. As companies like mine continue to send more and more work that is getting more and more complicated, the Indians are getting better and better and I dare say that in most instances they are just a good as Americans now.
Don't forget, quite a few who went to school and worked over here went back home and opened up shop. So, my point is that offshoring has come to the point where American work can be off-shored without compromises.
Honestly, while I don't disagree that being a good farmer takes a lot of education, dedication, experience, and time; the average American college student is going through many tens of thousands of dollars in debt, being told that this was what they needed to do in order to compete in the educated world economy; only to get out of school and find the jobs are at worst "internships" that are unpaid, and at best are jobs that are paid like absolute garbage. For that matter, the universities also are not necessarily providing them the skills they need to actually contribute in the workforce. I often times interact with college students in my career and I find that while they are energetic and want to learn, they were woefully unprepared for even the most basic understanding. And this is an absolute problem for anyone entering a Bachelor's program. The problem is, our education system is doing this en masse, to every single student. "Get the paper! It will get you a career and you'll pay that loan right off! Your American dream will come true!"
Again, I'm not discounting the farmers. Though I do discount the farm hands who do nothing but do menial tasks in the field. Though I do agree that farm work should pay more as well and incentivize hiring locals to do the jobs.
At any rate, the problem is multi-pronged and requires a multi-pronged approach to fixing. Unfortunately that requires analyzing both education and VISA policies. And Americans love their college football culture too much to give a shit about the actual education quality received. It's pretty terrible.
Though I do discount the farm hands who do nothing but do menial tasks in the field. Though I do agree that farm work should pay more as well and incentivize hiring locals to do the jobs.
Tie the minimum wage to the cost of living, and bingo! White people will pick fruit. The alternative is to convert the USA into Mexico, which I do not consider a viable plan. If we do that, though, you will have an easy time finding white people glad to live six to a bedroom because it beats a plywood and 2x2 and street sign shack — not least because in this country we don't permit shanty towns like that. We send in cops and bulldozers.
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I agree with you, but I still think it's a problem for most American workers. Though there is a large bit of uneducated populace that could take on these jobs. Though I highly doubt someone who obtained a 4-year degree is going to come out and do laborious farm-hand type work even if you tied the minimum wage to the cost of living. (That said, at least in the short term, it might help because a cost of living min wage would be far higher than what the education was worth itself).
I didn't vote for him but I have to wonder... what if he does a good job? What if he was actually able to do better than previous presidents?
I think the man is very vain. He is 70 years old. But a righteous legacy would be something he might sell his soul for.
He does know business and money. But it's real estate. Which means construction and turnover. Other rich don't necessarily like him because he doesn't care about keeping them rich. He is anti PAC. He has committed that his own cabinet won't be able to turn around and take insider jobs at companies. He is politically and financially not a friend to the rich.
I compare him to Nixon whom was also both very smart and naive about certain things. While Reagan wanted to outspend Russia in the cold war. Nixon wanted to steer China toward a liberal Fascism by marrying them to money and markets. (Kind of similar to how old kingdoms would arrange marriage [hostages] and guests so that there were personal ties of interest to both.) But China isn't spending western money. It's more like they are trying to bankrupt western nations.
Back on topic: Trump seems to support a more protectionist economy with an eye at least toward balancing trade. So it makes sense for him to be anti loop hole H1B. EVERYONE knows it's about cheaper tech workers to keep down tech salaries. I can only wish he would audit American companies and well known brands and show how they cheated the system and for how much. But he will use that instead as bargaining power; maybe shame a couple known companies in the beginning.
I think shamming companies on public TV will be a major theme for him. He does understand the PR game and how that would affect their stock prices in the short run. I expect an across the board minimum tax for businesses at least in the low double digits with phase ins and tax breaks for those that move/build facilities for manufacturing here. So there will definitely be a boom in construction and real estate which is generally good for the middle class.
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and he took $900k in cash from a guy that runs one of the biggest H1-B farms in America during his campaign. So I'm guessing that would be a 'no'.
Trump is walking back every promise he's made except the ones that are give aways to the 1%ers. What scares me most is thinking whats going to happen in year 3 when his approval ratings are single digits and he's up for reelection. War. War's gonna happen. A nasty war with some nation we're sure we can win against.
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that's all. H1-B is the most abused. It's the one they use to replace entry level jobs with. It's also the easiest to attack since the abuses are so obvious.
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that the grifter who's been cheating people for 70s years and who doesn't pay his contractors is gonna keep on doing what he's been doing.
But it's a moot point anyway. His cabinet picks alone are all other completely corrupt, completely incompetent or both. Whatever he wants to do doesn't matter. The important decisions will be made for him to the benefit of the 1% and the detriment of the rest of us.
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working 50+ hours a week for just enough money to get by (like my brother). Yeah, there's some guys making good money still. Most don't, and even those guys are making less money in the wake of the H1-Bs.
If everything were hunky-dory we'd be looking at a president Hilary. It's because so many folks don't have the tech jobs they were promised when manufacturing got shipped to Mexico that they didn't bother coming out to vote for her.
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Yep. If he gets out of line the GOP congress will impeach him on any one of his many real scandals resulting in Mike Pence as president.
Not sure what delusions you have but impeaching their own president would be an ever bigger scandal for the GOP and be a months long circus show so unless it's proven that he takes orders direct from Putin it'd never happen. And even then they'd probably bury their heads in the sand and claim it's a fabrication. A million to one odds that won't happen.
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They're looking at it, that it's very important, really important - and he can't believe what his people are finding. But in the end he'll let businesses do whatever they want.
A more humane approach to foreign trade issues across the board (both labor trade and trade of goods) would be to require equality of labor pay. In the past, we didn't have the big data skills to make this practical. I think we now do.
Basically, if you offshore labor, import labor, or import goods, simply require that the workers involved in providing the labor or creating the goods (at all levels of the vertical chain required to create the goods, i.e. all the way down to the raw material mining) get at least 95% of the going pay rate for Americans performing the same tasks.
This is not at all like a tariff which never helps to cure the underlying problems.
In one fell swoop, this would restore the competitiveness of our workers for our own jobs and tell the people (not the governments) of the other countries that they have equal value to all other people. Awesome.
US tech job total ~ 6.5 million, H1-B annual cap = 65K, that's 0.1% per annum. If you think that's having any kind of measurable impact on job prospects for American workers you're delusional.
The H1B visa program is an excellent choice as a bell weather of what a Trump administration can be expected to do for the average person. Around tax time next year (April 15th) is about 90 days in office. Set a reminder folks. "April 15th. Look around and see what the H1B visa abuse situation is. TRUMP Promise."
Will he keep it or will he break it? I don't know. I have my thoughts but I will have them settled one way or the other by May.
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Generally politicians don't pay much attention to the content of individual messages, but they do count the number of messages from constituents on each side of an issue. If they receive 1,000 messages urging them to support a bill and 10,000 in opposition, they notice that.
Obviously they also notice if the 12 Wall Street banks who finance 30% of their campaign costs want them to take one side or the other.
Of course, Trump isn't a standard politician. Who knows what he'll do. For example, he's not dependent on large donors like 99% of politicians are. With billions in his own bank account, he's free to tell any potential donor to suck it.
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This should be very easy to prove because US workers are being REPLACED by H1 workers. US workers are training H1 to take thier jobs so they are clearly being used as cheap replacement workers not what H1 was designed to do.
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While the Midwest isn't typically impacted as hard by H-1B activity. I'd certainly like to see the President overhaul the whole program and tighten it way down. I don't need it to go away, what I would like to see is for H-1B to be MORE EXPENSIVE than training someone locally. It should be an expensive option that you use when you don't have time to build the skill set locally.
However, I am from Missouri. You really have to Show Me, for me to believe.
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Putting the Trump factor to one side for a minute there is a simple option that we use here in New Zealand, minimum pay.
To be eligible to work in NZ as a skilled worker your pay must be typical for a person in the industry, or you work visa will no be renewed. It stops employers importing staff for economic reasons. It is not easy to get a work visa for NZ, so employers only go down that path when there is a genuine shortage of local candidates. While it may be possible to game the system I doubt it happening here because it is such a small market.
I travel to the US quite often for work and I have thought it would be nice to do a couple of years OE there, but can't see me wanting to live there long term. If I was to work in the USA I would expect to be paid the same as a local with the same skills, I'm not cheap labor and I am not looking to displace an existing employee. If Trump wants a simple fix then set the minimum pay for an HB1 worker to say $100K. Given the size of the HB1 market there I suspect you would need to back that up with an audit system so people don't claim they are paying more that the really are via bonded employment or mandatory fees etc. I guess you could back that up with a blacklist blocking the HB1 system for an employer or employment agency caught trying to game the system.
And what exactly makes Nikki Haley qualified to be UN Ambassador?
It makes her not governor of South Carolina for a start. The current Lieutenant Governor is a big Trump supporter. Haley is not. He kicked her upstairs to a job no one gives a fuck about. Would be interesting to know if Trump plans on withdrawing us from the UN after he takes office.
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So...opening up more federal lands to oil and gas (a deal, Mr. Trump...go crazy) will make saving coal's ass easier?
You mean to a re-design to avoid someone winning the popular vote by millions of votes but still losing the election? Avoiding that in the future sounds like a good thing
Perhaps it would. It would also mean that it matters again for democrats in Texas and republicans in New York and California to vote, so the result is probably unpredictable. I would be surprised if anyone in the US has the guts to rty that out.
You are an old timer and you started when there were more opportunities and when it was so much easier to get into this field.
Try getting an entry level job without a high school diploma while possessing an associate degree. I worked at a restaurant for three years after college before I got an "internship" at a tech company that could afford to hire a full time staff member. Once I got that feather in my cap, a lack of high school diploma stopped being an issue.
It's boring and monotonous.
That's where the money is if you can improve the process by doing it differently or automating it.
There's no room for advancement, either.
Change jobs.
Also the pay sucks too.
Seriously, change jobs.
I've done some of my own projects to try to show I can do more and nobody cares. It only counts if you've done it on the job.
That's why you need to go out of your way to do a special project on the job. I did a PC refresh project at a local hospital. The IT manager had a large storage room that no one had seen the floor for eight years. I moved my desk into that storage room. Over a six-week period in between tickets, I cleaned out that storage room, sent much of the old equipment to recycler, the rest into the warehouse cage, and had facilities cleaned the floor. The IT manager was so happy to get back usable spacey.
I just hope I can win the lotto and someday do what I want. I REALLY hate work.
When God hands out lemons, you can either make lemonade or suck your lemons with salt and tequila. I make lemonade all the time.
Would you care to be a bit more specific? I don't know of any time that Trump was anywhere near broke, and I've followed his career for 25 years.
I own a thousand dollars of stock in Google, a few hundred of Autozone, and about 20 other companies. If Autozone goes bankrupt, I'm out the few hundred I invested.
Trump has a couple billion in total, a few million in this hotel, a few million in a casino over here, a million in a golf course, hundreds of investments. When one of the companies goes bankrupt, he's out a couple million -and still has 2,000 million left.
Not sure what delusions you have but impeaching their own president would be an ever bigger scandal for the GOP
He's not really theirs, either. They didn't want Trump to be their candidate. They didn't fight it as hard as the Democrats, though. For once, their laziness pays off, eh? With the taste of ashes.
"You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
As they have depressed the market for native techies, it follows they've depressed the desire of people to enter that job market, so they *will* see a shortage of candidates now.
because impeaching someone for actual crimes is a scandal ....
and you call him delusional?
The guy who said the election was rigged won the presidency with the second-most votes.
What many people don't understand is that bankruptcy is a perfectly valid and often necessary legal strategy for a company to take. Bankruptcy often does not mean a company is out of business, you have several steps before that, often a simple restructuring of debt can result and make the company profitable again.
People think of bankruptcy as an easy way to get out of massive debt but bankruptcy courts loathe making such final decision as do the banks, in most cases you end up being forced to refinance all your debts in longer term loans or your assets get sold.
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To be perfectly honest, it's ridiculous to claim Trump is lying when he says he wants to bring jobs back to America, just because you can show where some of his buildings were constructed using Chinese steel.
This is clearly a guy who wasn't ever micro-managing every little detail of each building project he invested in. I'm sure some of the sub-contractors who performed some of the necessary work on his buildings hired illegal labor without Trump ever being made aware of it, too.
You might have more of an argument that especially once running for office, he should have had the foresight to source U.S. manufacturers for his name-brand products. (If you buy a "Trump for President" ball cap and it says it's made in China on the label -- that means he had somebody on his staff call a place that advertised a good price on embroidered caps and ordered, without making the effort to check on that first. Not the smartest move ... but still, probably not anything he had direct say in.)
I have no idea how his Presidency will turn out, and I didn't vote for the guy either. But I've *never* seen so much news coverage over EVERY SINGLE person he so much as considers for a position someplace on his cabinet. There are obviously a whole lot of people in the media and press looking for any excuse to criticize him on any misstep he makes, even months before he actually takes office and does anything.
Even if he stops skilled immigrants. Tech work does not need to be in the US. It is portable. Anyway, the biggest fear is among the low end techworker in the US. And their jobs can easily be outsourced which is already happening.
They really need to make it a mix of the current lottery system (to give anyone a chance) and a more-you-pay-the-more you get system (helps companies who need actual skill and not just warm bodies. My company has dozens of H1Bs, hundreds of offshore contractors and refuses to hire any local talent, including low cost college grads. They would rather may Accenture, TCS & Infosys $150/hr for what amounts to slave labor for years instead of hiring a single college grad for under $40/hr.
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Not to mention that you can fail out of Computer Science Engineering because of a bad grade in Middle Eastern History. That actually almost happened to me. I had a 3.9 on my Calculas and Computer Science classes, but because I got a D+ in Chemistry and a D in Middle Eastern History (mostly because I just didn't give a damn about those classes), I had to apply for an excemption and personally argue my case to avoid being removed from Ohio State University's engineering school.
so much news coverage over EVERY SINGLE person he so much as considers for a position because the people he's wanting to appoint are mostly WAY out there. Blatant racists, anti-Semitics, anti-education, etc. He's gathering up all the "outsiders" for these positions...there is a reason their "outsiders". Look at Betsy DeVos, Steve Bannon, Jeff Sessions, Mark Jamison, etc. These picks are people who hate the current system and will dismantle it all, and turn it over to whatever corp will pay the most. Many of them are already considered on the fringe of the fringe, and will quickly destroy everything they can. Say goodbye to clean air, clean water, public schools, net neutrality, woman's rights, workplace safety, and most of the other ideals that make the US a "modern civilized nation". Say hello to nation-wide "stop and frisk", "papers please", corporate monopolies, massive funding for "Christian" charter schools, and a trade war with China.
Great choice we have...a Gilded Age on steroids with Trump or a Christian Taliban under Pence.
What many people don't understand is that bankruptcy is a perfectly valid and often necessary legal strategy for a company to take.
No, everyone understands that it's legal, and therefore considered valid. Everyone also understands that when you go bankrupt it means that without government interference, you would go out of business like the failure that you are. Trump is known for his many corporate bankruptcies. If he were forced to make good on the promises of the corporations with his name on them, he would be way beyond bankrupt. His finances would be a hole straight through the planet, not merely a smoking one.
"You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
I had a 3.9 on my Calculas and Computer Science classes, but because I got a D+ in Chemistry and a D in Middle Eastern History (mostly because I just didn't give a damn about those classes), I had to apply for an excemption and personally argue my case to avoid being removed from Ohio State University's engineering school.
So what do you do about the parts of a programming job that you don't give a damn about? D+ and D-level work?
"You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
No it would not.
If it were only the popular vote, then approx 3 states or so would call the shots for ALL the states in the union, and that does not represent the vastly different interests of each state due to its peoples' outlooks, and its needs based on its geography.
We'd basically have CA and NY for the most part deciding the presidents for the US going forward.
The way things were set up, you are a citizen of your STATE first...and then a citizen of the United States. This is for a very good reason. One size in a nation this large does not fit. That's why most power is supposed to reside with each state and the federal govt is constitutionally supposed to be weak in regard to that balance of power.
But we are a nation of states....and the balance needs to be kept on that level, not on pure population levels in very isolated regions.
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Wow..I dunno where you live..but those guys most everywhere in the country in the US make close to the 6 digit figure if they're a good hustler.
Hell in the south, during the spring-fall...if you're an AC guy, you can pretty much name your price.....especially if you have a good reputation of not ripping people off, etc.....
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> Are you a majority shareholder of Autozone? Do you run Autozone?
Trump didn't put up the majority of the money for any of the casinos either. For Trump Plaza, Harrah's paid all of the construction costs, $220 million, and operated the casino. Trump had put up something like $13 million to buy the land. Trump did get half the profits, but all he could lose was the $13 million.
For most of his properties, banks put up the money. Just like I only lose my $500 investment if Autozone goes under, Trump only stood to lose his investment, in most cases. A couple of times he personally guaranteed a small percentage of the loans, but that was the exception rather than the rule.
He was 50% owner of the Empire State Building and guess how much he exposure he and his companies had? $0. He didn't put in one cent, had nothing to lose. The owner GAVE him a 50% interest so that he would use his expertise in New York real estate to make it profitable.
You say that as if it means something. It doesn't. The goal of the candidates was to win the electoral vote, not the popular vote. It has been this way in the US for 200+ years. Both candidates knew this and based their campaign strategy on it. If the goal was to win the popular vote, it would have been a different campaign, different people would have voted, and Trump may have won that, too.
When the contest is for the electoral vote, candidates concentrate on campaigning in the swing states while giving relatively little attention to states that are already heavily in favor of one candidate or the other. If the contest was for the popular vote, candidates would campaign in the largest population centers instead.
With the current system, a Republican voter in a heavily Democratic state (or vice versa) may as well not vote, because it won't count anyway. If the winner was based on the popular vote, everyone's vote would count, and people would come out to vote regardless of which way their state was leaning.
They are different games. You can't say, "We lost the football game, but we would have won if it was rugby." Well, you could, but people would just laugh at you.
Well, he campaigned on promises to "drain the swamp" and eliminate a lot of government regulation. As far as I'm concerned, the public school system needs a good dismantling. Go to a voucher system and promote charter schools as options. The teacher's union is one of the most corrupt unions out there today too. If all of that is "fringe" thinking - I'm down with the fringes on that. Common core standards were foisted upon the nation's schools without any consideration for the students caught in the middle of the changes, or the parents who couldn't even teach their own kids that system. And districts get Board of Education candidates elected disingenuously with the "Apple ballots" they pass around at election time, with their "slate" of candidates falsely promoted as "the people the teachers themselves actually want on the board". They OFTEN don't.
But at least a number of the rumored picks are well known names of people who aren't considered that radical (or even friends of many conservatives), so I'd say your categorizing Trump as only wanting "outsiders" is incorrect. Ben Bernake, for example, or Jonathan Gray (a Democrat!).
Nice way to put words in my mouth. Where did I say I wanted to alter the current election?
I'm simply pointing out that at some point, when one candidate wins the popular vote and another the electoral vote, you have a problem. This is obviously true.
That is what people fail to understand though, it's fine for a company to go bankrupt, that's WHY we have LLC's, otherwise nobody would be starting businesses. You want Trump to personally finance a random failed venture? Why?
From another perspective: if banks would have to accept bankruptcies as total losses, again, they wouldn't fund ANYTHING. Bankruptcies are methods to get away from crushing debt and into a recovery, it's a mechanism to avoid banks from turning into loansharks. The alternative is that banks have full control over companies and their assets.
If all businesses were run in this unicorn farts and rainbows feel-good world of yours where everyone would pay back what they owed even if they failed, nobody would have anything, we wouldn't have any businesses.
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No ... the only thing that matters is some kind of ratty conspiracy theory connection between politifact and Democrats. Add a gratuitous slur on mrs. Clinton (nevermind that several investigative committees failed to come up with paydirt).
Nah, typical Trump supporters don't deal with facts. Too much hassle. Makes their poor little minds tired and confused.
Much better go with something that sounds good and writes quick. Like a hint at conspiracy. Saves time, thinking, and effort. Great!
That is what people fail to understand though, it's fine for a company to go bankrupt, that's WHY we have LLC's, otherwise nobody would be starting businesses.
Wait, I thought the people with money were the job creators! I thought they made money, and then they reinvested it into more business ventures, creating jobs! Now you're telling me that The People are the Job Creators, because we make bankruptcy possible. I guess that means we should be getting full employment for our forbearance, right?
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There is nothing wrong with more H1B visas being given to those who are truly rock-star level performers. That doesn't mean more have to go to normal IT-Dept slugs, either.
A master plumber or HVAC person may not make as much, but doesn't have to worry about getting fired every 1.5-3 years as one does in IT.
Wow..I dunno where you live..but those guys most everywhere in the country in the US make close to the 6 digit figure if they're a good hustler.
So you're basically agreeing with him, since a skilled software developer will reach a six figure salary by his early 30's even in the Midwest. And doesn't have to literally work in shit.
-- All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. -- Edmund Burke
This. So much this. If they could offshore it they would.
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I don't have a problem. People who don't understand how (and why) the system works have a problem. Let's look at an example...
In California, Hillary won the popular vote by about 3 million votes. But it doesn't matter whether she won by 3 million, 1 million, or 10 million. It was a foregone conclusion that Hillary would win California and its 55 electoral votes, so neither candidate spent much time there. And I suspect many California Republicans did not vote, because they knew their vote wouldn't matter anyway. But if the election were to be based on the popular vote, the campaign would have been completely different -- the candidates would have concentrated their efforts on the most populous states (like California) and ignored the smaller states. Voter turnout would have been different and the results would have been different.
This is not a bug, it is a feature. It was designed this way so that smaller states would not, in effect, be shut out of the presidential election. For example, the population of California is about 65 times the population of Wyoming, but only has about 18 times the electoral votes. Without this protection, smaller states would have been reluctant to join the Union in the first place.
You might argue that the system should be changed. But when the system, as it is, is based on the electoral vote, candidates run their campaigns to win the electoral vote and the winner of the electoral vote becomes president. The results of the popular vote are irrelevant because that is not what they were campaigning for. If the winner was based on the popular vote, it would have been a different campaign and a different election -- and Trump may have won anyway.
This made me laugh - he won't because he thinks those pesky educated types are dirty Democrats and should be replaced by people who will do what they are told under threat of deportation.
He is not your saviour.
He sees you as his enemy.
How's this for a radical idea (although other places have it in their democracies based on the US model):
There are already state representatives - let the party with more of those than the other choose the President instead of the ridiculous circus of the direct election model.
Even if it's unfair compulsory stuff has to be taken seriously and if it was an elective you are suppose to try to pass.
Back when I was teaching in the 1990s I kept being pestered by first year electrical engineering students that thought an incredibly easy and dumbed down materials science subject (with a lot about semiconductors) was not relevant to them. They kept saying they would just hire someone who knew the stuff, as if they would have the authority to actually do something like that in their internship or first job. They seemed to think it was as irrelevant as Middle Eastern History to them.
From looking from the other side of the fence that happens a lot and only complete bastards remove people from courses when they fail things outside of the core stream.
While you were asleep he released a tax return for one of those years.
It's news because the choices are so weird. A General who was fired? How many Generals have ever been fired since the Civil War? Five? Ten?
Not direct but Putin does tell the Russian banks that Trump owes money to what to do.
However the reason Trump had to resort to Russian banks in the first place is because he has a history of not doing what he is asked by the banks he owes money to. Trump will probably just fuck them over too, just like the other banks, subcontractors business partners and so on.
So there you go - silver lining!
He may not be working for the USA but he's probably not going to work for Russia either!
Given how the US claims to promote democracy around the world, surely there should be at least one politician democratically chosen by the vote of every US citizen. The President is the only elected official who represents the nation as a whole, rather than merely a region thereof. Seems like an obvious choice. States already get equal representation in the Senate, which is a strong check against an overreaching Executive. If Trump exceeds the left's expectations, he'll easily win the popular vote come 2020. Let him announce he'll adopt the cause after he takes office, and maybe some of the protestors will go away.
There's not much to complain about in the USA in terms of software engineering wages, then, from a UK perspective, then, as even in London it's unlikely you would get offered that much with rather more experience.
I wonder how cities like London can be so expensive without salaries to match. Silicon Valley may have $2500/month studio apartments, but new college graduates can even make six figures there. Many European cities are just as expensive as the most pricey US cities, but with salaries often lower than the US Midwest. I guess I've always assumed its mostly old money.
-- All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. -- Edmund Burke
It's a feature, but the purpose isn't to make smaller states relevant. The feature exists because the framers of the Constitution didn't trust direct democracy and wanted electors who would buck the will of the people if those people were making a bad choice. We can argue about unintendedeffects like increasing the voice of middle-America, but that wasn't it's intent.
Probably have an "innovation" where the H1B visas will be sold on QVC under some sort of Trump Branding.
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If it were only the popular vote, then approx 3 states or so would call the shots for ALL the states in the union
This is wrong.
If it's a popular vote, States don't matter. No one will be fighting for votes in Bakersfield, California. Even though California is the highest population state. Instead, popular vote would mean cities are the important target for a presidential candidate. Those are much more geographically distributed than you imply.
Additionally, you're ignoring the fact that Republican voters in states like CA and NY, and Democratic voters in states like TX would actually matter. Instead of being utterly ignored by Presidential candidates.
The balance for geography vs. population was designed to be in Congress, with the massively boost in power to rural states in the Senate. Since the number of Electors from each state is mostly controlled by the size of the House delegation, the Electoral College is not supposed to be the bulwark protecting rural states. In fact, if you apply the formula the Founders actually came up with for the size of the House, you get an Electoral College much closer to a popular vote.
That broke when we stopped expanding the House in the 1910s. Since we can't go below 1 House seat per state, we're left with a rural-overpowered House, a rural-dominated Senate, and a rural-overpowered President. Perhaps one federal election should actually give a damn about Los Angeles County, which has more people in it than 40 states. The Founders thought so when they created the House.
But we'd need more than 1000 House seats to actually have it represent "the people" as intended, and that's a massive logistical nightmare. So perhaps we should have presidential elections fill more of that role. It would be a lot easier than building 2-3 more Capitol buildings and tripling the population of DC.
Trump will do what is in his best interests. In this case I believe he will almost certainly follow up on his claim to "fix" the H1b abuses. Why?
4 Reasons:
1) It literally has zero negative impact on his own business holdings
2) He ran (and won) on bringing American jobs back
3) If he wants to win those "Blue" states on re-election like California this is the way to do it. Same idea except white collar VS blue
4) It give the middle finger to all those IT CEO's that bad mouthed him in the past election
Seem pretty straight forward to me. As for other republicans trying to block him, I don't think it will work, as some other had mentioned, he pretty much got elected without a lot of republican support to begin with and I don't think he would even blink before throwing a few republic opponents under the bus and fast if only as simply a statement of who is boss...
As to how fair or draconian the actual policy will be or even how effective it is remains to be scene...
Trump does not know what IT does - he seems to think his 10-year-old is a qualified cybersecurity expert - he does not know what an H1-B is, and he thinks a Visa is that piece of black stainless steel in his wallet that he uses when he can't get out of paying for something.
So, no, he most likely won't.
This is correct but all per-industry unemployment rates have same issues, so not sure how relevant your point is when making a comparison to other industries.
Purchasing Power Parity. Basically, being able to afford a nearly equivalent lifestyle if it is available in the area and a fair translation of our equivalent worker's lifestyle if not.