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Samsung's Upcoming Galaxy S8 Flagship Smartphone Won't Have a Headphone Jack: Report (sammobile.com)
Samsung is planning to ditch headphone jack in its next flagship smartphone, called the Samsung Galaxy S8, reports SamMobile, a Samsung-focused blog that has a pretty good track record with these things. From the report: Removing the 3.5mm headphone jack enables Samsung to make the Galaxy S8 thinner while also freeing up more space inside for a bigger battery. Samsung may also integrate stereo speakers which some believe will be made in collaboration with Harman, a company that Samsung is acquiring for $8 billion.
Guess who's not buying an S8?
Well, looks like Samsung really wants their flagship phone to die.
Looks like there's more than enough COURAGE to go around in the smartphone industry.
thinner = more likely to blow up can we get one with sd card, battery you can swap, etc.
Do people really want thinner phones? They all seem to put big old protective cases around them anyway.
You can always use Bluetooth headphones.
Wasn't there an article yesterday saying that the battery problems with the G7 Note largely due to it being too thin? Which, given the circumstances seems to be a fairly strong thesis for the trouble. So why try to go thinner?
I get there's a lead time on design and engineering and that it's quite likely this particular design has been in the works before the Note 7 was even out the door. But it seems like poor management to not backup and start over just to be certain the same design flaws don't happen again. Starting by not having thinness as a goal.
Then again, I'm not an exec working on their quarterly bonus. I'm just a guy on the internet.
That's where the fuse and detonator go now.
Wasn't the problem that was found with the burning ("exploding") Samsung S7 Note the fact that they made it too thin without enough space for the battery? Did they not learn their lesson?
Also, I want a headphone jack. I love my headphone jack on my Samsung S7 active. I can plug many things into it, many things I already own. It's flexible, compatible, a great thing. I don't want a super thin phone. I just want a fast, reliable, convenient, water-proof phone that has flexible and standard connectivity with a battery that can get me through 24 hours of heavy use without needing to charge all the time. I'll pay money for that, not for some fragile, super-thin device that needs to be charged all the time.
More BANG for the buck.
A) Why isn't Samsung leveraging the fact that their product includes a certain feature and B) Why are we going backwards?? You're supposed to be 'innovating' Samsung...
wireless earbuds, adapters and what not. I'm not a fan of Apple or Samsung. In my opinion, BOTH are overpriced to the point I can find a good quality phone,with similar features for HALF the cost.
make the Galaxy S8 thinner while also ... a bigger battery
https://tech.slashdot.org/story/16/12/05/2032203/engineers-explain-why-the-galaxy-note-7-caught-fire
enables Samsung to make the Galaxy S8 thinner
What is this fucking obsession with making phones thinner? I want a phone that's sturdy. I wouldn't mind my phone being two or even three times as thick, if it could have double or triple the battery life. What I don't want is a fragile, dainty phone that's going to snap in half if I hold it the wrong way. Who is asking for thinner phones?
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Apple should sue Samsung for copying the iPhone...oh wait
Thinner with a bigger battery, is that not possibly what got them in trouble with the Note 7 already.
Leave my stinking 3.5mm jack and make the damn battery replaceable again. I will not be upgrading again for this crap. My note 4 will work find till AT&T stops updating it.
I'd rather a headphone jack than my phone to be slightly thinner.
Phones have been thin enough since 2010. Having a thinner phone is exactly dead last on my list of priorities... about two or three spots below having a headphone jack.
"That's the way to do it" - Punch
Always on the forefront of the tech curve with courageous design decisions
Poor Sammy, always playing catch-up
My daughter purchased the new jackless iPhone. The misplacing of the adapter for a non-bluetooth pair of headphones has been occurring on a semi-regular basis. Its a terrible design decision. Not everyone wants to also charge their bluetooth headphones. Now, if they introduce a line of bt headphones that cost 20 bucks and don't suck we might be getting somewhere. Or at least include them instead of making it an upcharge.
...that's so courageous of them.
...you are fucked.
You're a bad influence on the other kids in the neighborhood.
Seriously, that seems to be the extent of the logic some of the manufacturers use. Apple has/had an obsession with thin, Apple did well, therefore we need to have an obsession with thin.
Personally, I say fuck that. Phones have gotten anywhere from thin enough to too thin. I had a Note 3 for a few years, which I was completely fine with in terms of thickness. However I recently got an LG G5 which is just slightly thicker, and I actually like it better. The slight extra thickness, combined with rounded edged, makes it really comfortable to hold. Of all the smartphones I've had it fits in my hand the very best. I think they've got it pretty close to perfect in therms of thickness.
Oh and it manages to have a removable battery, headphone jack, and SD card so that's nice as well.
I get annoyed with the worship of the cult of thin. I understand the interest back in the day, I had an early Windows CE smartphone which was a massive brick and ya, I wanted something smaller. However we have gotten to the point where they are plenty thin enough and going thinner is less ergonomic, not more.
How do I charge my phone and listen to music in my car?
We're so innovative, we even copy our own competitors when they make a decision that's been widely ridiculed!
FFS, Samsung, you used to think for yourself AND make better decisions.
The companies and perhaps the users who buy these crap products... Give me a 1.5" THICK(4" screen) phone with slide out keyboard, 2 MicroUSB(one for charging), hdmi, audio jack, 1 maybe 2 microSD slots(one hot swappable). Last 24-48hours under medium cpu load/screen on. It would still fit in my pockets just fine and be a lot more handy...
Speaking of handy, throw an x86 baytrail(or better, ie: as power efficient as ARM) in it with legacy bios and allow an application to act as dialer.. Could run Linux, Windows, Android, or whatever...
It will also be made thinner such that battery is squeezed so tight that there is impact/compression between the layers as it gets charged.
What could go wrong?
My body has been getting fatter faster than phones are getting thinner. When are we going to work on anti-aging technology?
Still have to carry wired headphones when you travel anyways, until they install Bluetooth at each individual seat on the airplane!
No.
No sig here...
Seriously who has an S7 and think damn, this phone is just too thick.
Headphone jack or thinner, headphone jack or thinner.
GIVE ME THE FREAKING HEADPHONE JACK!
I can't believe we're sitting here, I'm 37 years old, and I'm finally getting stereo speakers. It's about time. I can't wait to turn 50, and get a headphone jack.
Judging from their recent track record, looks like we'll get to look forward to even bigger explosions in the future.
Samsung: lets copy even the Apple bad ideas.
and baseband processor that is logically if not physically separated from the operations of the SoC, storage, memory, microphone,speaker, and camera?
The biggest problems with cell phones aren't exploding batteries or questionable physical engineering, they are the question technical decisions that result in user hardware having next to no user control, and giving governments globally the sort of undetectable and complete access to personal devices that past and current regimes would kill to enjoy access to.
Except that in this case Samsung has a long history of copying Apple and apparently it seems to extend to even copying their stupid ideas. However it would be ironic if they put a USB-C on the phone and used that for the earphones too because then their phone would be more compatible with the new MacBooks than the iPhone.
if the phone is thinner than things that fit in my dick. it's too thin.
Time to identify the best phone with 3.5mm jack, SD slot and removeable battery and buy it.
and I'm a Samsung 'fan' - well, I was. They keep being morons over and over and it's getting tiresome.
The ONLY reason I stick with them is the physical home button, if they pull that, force edge displays and remove the headphone jack? Yeah, bye bye.
I own an S5, and was considering getting an S8, but unless someone can give me a better reason than "thinner, more battery room!" then I'll gladly wait for someone else to come along and eat Samsung's lunch.
... that a recent court decision had determined that Samsung was *NOT* really copying Apple. I guess this clears that up.
File under 'M' for 'Manic ranting'
I've had a GS2, GS4, GS5, and my wife had a Note3/
We just recently bought Asus' Zenphone Laser3. Thus far I've noticed that performs just as well as any other phone I've had, with the extra features of Android 6. It also gets *much* better battery life than any Samsung I've ever owned. At $270CAD, it's significantly cheaper than the major Samsung models, but has better specs than their "cheap" models (e.g. better CPU, 32GB instead of 8GB storage), and comes factory unlocked (with none of that lock-to-the-first-SIM-card-used BS either).
The only downside I've seen to it thus far is that it doesn't have a removable battery like the ZF2 had, lacks wireless charging (Asus: PLEASE add this to the next model), and you can't have a second SIM card if you want to use a MicroSD.
Least to say, I don't see myself with any need to buy an S8 or any other Samsung. The more recent models already did away with removable batteries and don't support dual-SIM, so the only advantage they seem to have is the wireless charging. While I do love the charging, it's not a feature that I'm willing to pay double the price for nor submit myself to Samsung's dearth of updates for any non-current device.
We know this since at least September, a simple search in google gives me this for instance: http://www.forbes.com/sites/ew...
"Science will win because it works." - Stephen Hawking
I must be outnumbered in the general public- I really like the headphone jack on my phone and use it almost daily. It sure looks like here on /. I am not alone. Somehow these big companies must have concluded that most customers don't feel the same way.
Do.Not.Fucking.Want.
Apple, I think it is, is running an ad with some old guy sitting at the pool who turns the volume up on his iPhone and leaves it blaring on the table next to his lounge chair while he goes up and does a high dive. Thank goodness nobody with a brick handy wants to listen to anything other than the mariachi music at high volume that this guy is playing, or we'd see what it really means to have a thin phone and lithium battery fire.
Those who don't know history are doomed to repeat it. The boom box of the 2020's is on our doorstep. No, in the streets and in the subways and at the park and ...
That would be Square.
Fascist bankers do not like competition.
Every other report that I can find of this news anywhere on the web links back to Sammobile, who says that they can somehow "exclusively confirm" this, but does not mention *how*, exactly, that they were able to confirm it... The only reasons that I can imagine that they would not give this information are if they had acquired it by doing something of questionable legality and almost certainly unethical, or else they are just making shit up.
Maybe it's bullshit, and maybe not... but something's definitely not right here, and I think it's socially irresponsible to propagate this kind of story when it can't be confirmed.
File under 'M' for 'Manic ranting'
Would be curious to see a poll on this - do phones need to get any thinner?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?...
Boy, are they going to get sued by Apple for not having a headphone jack.
I'm an American. I love this country and the freedoms that we used to have.
What a courageous choice! I commend their courage!
Unfortunately, I am a coward and will not be able to courageously buy one of these phones without a headphone jack. I'm so cowardly I didn't buy a phone without an SD slot when they removed those either and instead got a Blu Quattro (fortunately not affected by the phone-home app that was installed but it now runs CyanogenMod at any rate).
I like thick phones and I can not lie ...
You other brothers can't deny
That when a girl walks in with a really thin phone
And a flat thing in your face
I couldn't resist with all the comments about not wanting thin phones.
Beware of the Redittor who loans you a Sharpie.
I love when vendors think they are so big it magically earns them a license to dictate terms to their customers.
Depending on where you live anywhere between 25% and 75% iPhone owners around you will have chosen to place their phones in bulky protective cases. Millions of people want shit that works not glossy marketing gimmicks that are actually a liability (piss poor battery life, fire hazard, fragile, harder to use)
Then we have issue of vendors giving their customers the one finger salute by removing widely used features and justifying it with PR bullshit.
I heard they don't need earbuds because their new audio hardware has a truly explosive sound
Replace with pin and timer circuit.
Only copy the positive parts from apple!
so Samsung's CEO will shove it up his ass and put it on vibrate.
I can't wait to lay my hands on such an explosive product, from a company on fire.
Bigger batteries mean bigger explosions, and that can't be a bad thing.
Ah, so they figured out what problem on the phone was causing the battery runaways!
No jack, no explosions.
if it comes with a fire extinguisher.
We still have a chance to stop the stupidness... I'm tweeting to @SamsungMobile with #keeptheheadphonejack and letting them know I'll be switching to LG. Maybe public embarassment is enough to stop the madness.
When reports came out that Apple was dropping the headphone jack, the cry babies posting on here and gnashing their teeth about Apple and how Samsung at least innovates and tries new things while Apple just copies everyone else.....HAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHA!
Suck it you bunch of whiners!
I guess its time to move on.
The LG V10 also has a micro SD slot and probably the best camera available on a mass market phone.
Shame about the lack of a notification LED though.
I hope they at least include an adapter that will allow you to plug in and listen through a cable at the same time. When I fall asleep listening to music at night I need to make sure my alarm still works in the morning. Knowing Samsung they will.
Laws are rules for the court, but merely a bottom bar to hit for life. Think beyond laws in your actions always.
What does waterproof have to do w/ SD cards? Those can be buried behind the battery, just like they used to be on many/most facephones. Removable battery, I understand, but no SD cards, no
It still has an onboard DAC since it still has speakers... so not saving space there. But they can use cheap DAC's and capacitors since all onboard sound is crap.
I like USB-C but if they are going to do this then they should have two ports. One at the top of the phone AND one at the bottom.
Since USB-C provides power, it is not as bad as people seem to want to make it. The dongles shouldn't be stiff USB keys but rather flexible foot long extension cords.
For headphones with a true USB-C connection this means expensive headphones can choose to use $20 DAC solutions if they want to. It will also enable cheaper headphones to compensate for cheap parts through a built in equalizer.
If they are smart they should make 2 models, one with the headphone jack and one without. See which one sells and determine if they should stick with it.
I'm uncertain if this jack off feature will increase or decrease sales, but I do believe it's getting a rise out of the media.
CAPTCHA: "porker". I'd swear Slashdot has an AI system reading your posts and picking the CAPTCHA images.
...lethal
After years my S5 is still great. Water resistant. I can use a spare battery. Battery life actually is quite good. Has fast charging. Normal phone jack. Fairly common USB charge port. There's always a cable around somewhere or someone has one. Still good CPU, RAM, etc. There's hardly any wear and nothing has broken. I carry it with me all the time. The only annoying thing really is lack of forward facing speakers. There's not really much more I could want.
Better battery life, CPU, screen resolution, etc is good. However it shouldn't come at a cost. That is, it should come through improvements in technology. Not by sacrificing features. I really liked the keyboard on the Touch Pro 2 as well so I miss that.
In general the only annoying thing with Samsung that I haven't been able to avoid easily is how propriety they are with firmware when you want to own a device rather than user contract.
Everything after the S5 has taken away something that I want and many of the additions have been useless. I simply can't fathom the benefit of a curved screen. Technology isn't really progressing fast enough to warrant as many cycles as they want so they are just randomly messing with things or adding some gimmicks each generation. My S5 will probably be replaced 6 to 8 years after purchase date unless it breaks or some shocking new technology comes out. It's already half way towards that duration.
Oh my god, it has just occurred to me that there is a way to stop this thin phone madness! Make SJWs believe that thinner phones is some kind of concealed fat shaming and as bad to their worldview and "safe space" as thin models in posters or thin mannequins. That way SJWs will protest, tech corporations will cater to them since catering to SJWs is progressive - that way we will have normal fat... errr, thick phones again! Win - Win !
I don't want thinner! I'm fine if it's thick and jacked up.
So if you're making it thinner how does that make room for bigger battery? The jack only takes up so much space. Didn't the iphone say that too and end up having less battey power? Oh well, that's samsung off the considerations list.
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Initially I went meh, didn't care. I use a bluetooth headset with my phone, and love it. However, my older car doesn't have bluetooth and isn't worth upgrading with blue tooth. It doesn't even have the line in port. My newer car doesn't have bluetooth either, which is a problem, because the line in connection on the S7 is Crappy as all with static all the time.
Seems like useless features and upgrades for the sake of just releasing something "new" is coming to smartphones, too. Enjoy buying a new dumbphone and wasting money for nothing every 6 months. I do it every 6 years. :)
"It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society." - Jiddu Krishnamurti
Do people really want thinner phones?
Thinner is only better to a point. Then it is a sickness. Nobody really wants that.
CAPTCHA: cramming (good one when talking about phones)
Leave me the damned headphone jack, and as a side note, the phone doesn't need to get any thinner!
If the components shrink, leave the phone the same size and put more stuff in it. Cool new stuff, or just a bigger battery as everything else shrinks and makes room for it.
Gimme a bloody FM radio in it while you are add it.
It will still come loaded with lots of Samsung's crapware.
Consider that the 3.5mm jack is of the same vintage as audio cassettes, being a knock-off of the full-sized 7mm audio jack that does back to the 1930s. It fucking should have died 30 years ago but only persisted because of the Sony Walkman.
Basically people who complain about this are the same people who bitched and complained about the Apple iMac switching to USB and eliminating RS232 and Centronics parallel ports. In other words - fucking looser technology adoption laggards - the last to adopt anything and the change-phobic.
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Freedom = (Meaningful - Coerced) Choice != (Speech | Beer^2), and sad sock puppets' bad mods avail them naught.
But I'm not sure this is the place to express your sexual illusions, which seem rather banal, as far as that thing goes. You might find more action on one of those mating sites, with pictures. At least try to keep it on topic, eh?
“He’s not deformed, he’s just drunk!”
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Freedom = (Meaningful - Coerced) Choice != (Speech | Beer^2), and sad sock puppets' bad mods avail them naught.
ZZZ
“He’s not deformed, he’s just drunk!”
Z^4
Freedom = (Meaningful - Coerced) Choice != (Speech | Beer^2), and sad sock puppets' bad mods avail them naught.
What part of project don't you understand? Look in the mirror and see every little everything you bitch about here... so puerile... oh well, keep it coming, you cannot stop...
“He’s not deformed, he’s just drunk!”
Z^5
Freedom = (Meaningful - Coerced) Choice != (Speech | Beer^2), and sad sock puppets' bad mods avail them naught.
Why do you hate your mother?
“He’s not deformed, he’s just drunk!”
Z^6
Freedom = (Meaningful - Coerced) Choice != (Speech | Beer^2), and sad sock puppets' bad mods avail them naught.
ZZz
“He’s not deformed, he’s just drunk!”
Z^7
Freedom = (Meaningful - Coerced) Choice != (Speech | Beer^2), and sad sock puppets' bad mods avail them naught.
Check yourself into an asylum
“He’s not deformed, he’s just drunk!”
Z^8
Freedom = (Meaningful - Coerced) Choice != (Speech | Beer^2), and sad sock puppets' bad mods avail them naught.
What a loon!
“He’s not deformed, he’s just drunk!”
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Freedom = (Meaningful - Coerced) Choice != (Speech | Beer^2), and sad sock puppets' bad mods avail them naught.
You definitely warrant further investigation. Let's see what cold cases warm up again, and if you can still talk your way out after repeatedly revealing yourself as you are here. Maybe I should check out the info the AC posted...
“He’s not deformed, he’s just drunk!”
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Freedom = (Meaningful - Coerced) Choice != (Speech | Beer^2), and sad sock puppets' bad mods avail them naught.
That's the door shutting. You're going to hear that a lot soon.
“He’s not deformed, he’s just drunk!”