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Microsoft Reportedly Working On a 'Lightweight Version of Windows' Known As 'Cloud Shell' (neowin.net)
An anonymous reader quotes a report from Neowin: Last week, details emerged of Microsoft's plans to develop a single, unified, 'adaptive shell' for Windows 10. Known as the 'Composable Shell', or CSHELL, the company's efforts were said to be focused on establishing a universal Windows 10 version with a standardized framework to scale and adapt the OS to any type of device, display size or user experience, including smartphones, PCs, tablets, consoles, large touchscreens, and more. Today, Petri reported that Microsoft is working on a new shell for Windows known as 'Cloud Shell'. According to internal documentation referred to in that report, Cloud Shell is described as a "lightweight version of Windows designed for the modern computing world." It also hints at plans to introduce the Cloud Shell sometime in 2017 -- but little else is known about the new shell besides that. Cloud Shell is said to be connected, in some way, with the Windows Store and Universal Windows Platform app framework, and the report speculates that it may also be related to Microsoft's plans to bring the full version of Windows 10 to mobile devices with ARM-based processors, which it announced in December. However, the cloud nomenclature, and the reference to this being a 'lightweight' version of Windows could hint at a 'thin client'-style approach, in which the Windows 10 shell could be streamed from Microsoft's Azure platform to any device with an internet connection, while its cloud servers remotely handle all of the processing and storage requirements of each users' tasks.
Another product no one asked for or wanted.
And includes the default command line option of csh. (We wish)
Interestingly, the internal name is Universal Data Harvester.
Cloud Shell is said to be connected, in some way, with the Windows Store and Universal Windows Platform app framework,
Does anyone even use either of those?
"First they came for the slanderers and i said nothing."
Rumors claiming that a space was misplaced by one character during creation of the marketing materials, and the product was originally to be called "Clouds Hell" cannot be confirmed at this time.
Microsoft sells cshells by the sea shore.
The shells Microsoft sells are surely cshells.
So if Microsoft sells shells on the seashore,
I’m sure Microsoft sells seashore shells.
http://saveie6.com/
What is old is new again
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MinWin
Or you could just run ReactOS in a VM.
At least on the desktop. I am sure 'compromises' will be made that will favor mobile interface layout and aesthetics.
CLoud shit, another product from the reverse midas than instead of turning everything it touches into gold, turns into turds. And no, I have not forgot to post as AC.
Microsoft is gonna sell CHELLs? presumably by the CSHORE?
Or are they copying Gnome Shell since that was such a hit?
... hey we have all this billions invested in WindowsPhone OS that we don't know what to do with since we plan to leave the market? Any ideas?
http://saveie6.com/
How about getting 64 bit x86 to work instead of emulating 32 bit x86 which is 1980s technology?
cloud smell? Gaseous and malodorous? Alfie is in the House!
Nowadays everything wants to connect to the cloud. I mean you pull up Apple or Google maps on a phone and it can't even display a generic map showing where you are. It insists on asking the cloud. Yet somehow the OS is like 16 gigabytes in size. How can it take up 16 gigabytes when it doesn't know anything?
In space? Privately? From mining asteroids? No? Then it's for Luddites and I don't want it.
Your OS runs in the cloud and you shell out money every month to use it
Doesn't this sound awfully like the Chrome OS? Just Microsoft running the servers instead of Google?
In a couple of years they will be releasing a browser called Navigator.
I know CS degree programs are supposed to be hard, but not THAT hard.
Knowledge is how to play a game, intelligence is how to win, wisdom is knowing what game to play.
It'll bring everything you love about Windows to the Cloud.
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with a shiny expensive price tag for the shit it is.
*Dumb client as in dumb station, not client as in person.
Military intelligence
Boneless ribs
Lightweight Windows
Great! Now they'll have an operating system that only takes 10 minutes to boot up instead of the 20 minutes currently required.
Proverbs 21:19
who read that as "Compostable Shell"?
Seems fitting for a shitty product...
Windows Chromebook....
Just what I want, a Microsoft OS stuck in a Microsoft cloud. Sorry, I try to stay as far removed from any Microsoft I can except for being a Windows user. However, Windows is the extent of my use of Microsoft products. No Office, One Drive, Xbox, or Azure.
Surely an oxymoron.
The cloud is the business of human behavior, leaded by Facebook.
Now people just make fun of Microsoft, when it says vaguely plausible things they might have actually invested on. Even stupid idea like warehousing products in the near earth orbit and delivering packages using Multiple Independently Targeted Re-entry Vehicles by Amazon would be discussed seriously. But Microsoft? nah! No one believes it can do what it says it wants to do. Including the VP in charge of the project.
sed -e 's/Chuck Norris/Rajnikant/g' joke > fact
The first C-SHELL will suck.
It will be followed by a new and improved TurboCSHELL...
And just like that we are back to the days of mainframes/dumb terminals except that know we will call it the cloud/thin client. The reason are simple, vendor lock-in, walled gardens and "services" instead of ownership means you can milk your clients for years instead of selling them something once
See shill CSHELL! Bye, the csh whore.
and easy to make! Start with windows 10 , remove all aps and metro entirely to start with, remove all unwanted cortana, cloud stuff, browser ,mail and other useless application. remove telemetry and spying process. leave just a rubust network and internet stack with a simple file desktop browser , a control panel and an installer/launcher for win32/win64 applications.
I will BUY that OS $300 the next day...
n/t
Have gnu, will travel.
I used to do a lot of stuff in a lightweight environment called C-Shell and it was really awesome, but that was more than 30 years ago and it really didn't have a lot to do with MS.
This might actually work if it supports standard Windows software. For example, you may have an old machine running few selected programs, or even have an actually light version of Windows for Raspberry.
Sounds like they are bringing back Windows NT.
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If Micro$oft wants to please me, they need to work on a Lightweight version of Windows known as Linux.
Windows is now utter dogshit.
As soon as some decent applications get written for/ported to Android and/or Linux it's game over for Microsoft.
They no longer have a fcuking clue.
Now they want the C Shell?
You mean their cshills?
>> Known as the 'Composable Shell'
Almost what I really needed. I'm looking for a 'Compostable Shell' so I can throw away my Windows instance whenever it gets slow, infected, or I just get tired of being tracked all the time. I would totally go for that.
Like shit.
...but instead of needing to because of technology and cost constraints, Microsoft is doing it as a method of control. Once Microsoft has the O.S. and your data on their servers, they have you by the curlies. You'll pay what they tell you to pay to access your own data or they pull the trigger.
Don't trust any concentration of power.
Does any one remember the term "NCD" Network Computing Device
or um,,, the first incarnation of the X windowing system..
or
um
SUN IPC
\it may be old, but isnt funny how everything old is "new" again..
the only difference is,
greater access to bandwidth (versus the choices 20+ years ago[modem])
Moore's law, the computing power is astronomical compared to 20+ years ago,
the idea is the same, centralized computing device networked slaves (screen, kybd, mouse) but no{or light} [hdd,sdd,cpu, ram, etc] everything including the lightweight OS is booted over the net using various methods like pxe, jump or kick start.
Crazy right?
So the Azure platform will be in some far away place. People will access it using "thin" clients. The C Shell name also has been co opted. I predict next the display will be called Virtual Teleport 100 or something, and it display 24 lines each 80 characters in beautiful glowing green phosphors.
sed -e 's/Chuck Norris/Rajnikant/g' joke > fact
Microsoft Windows XP "end of life": Conflict of interest.
Having a cloud connected OS is THE OPPOSITE OF WHAT I WANT!
Not that I would trust Microsoft anyway.
Computer scientists will love this
That would benefit the user and we can't have that!
...eventually. UWP is a self contained environment with access to APIs that are outside the scope of Win32, as MS updates its APIs to integrate with these services and also other features of UWP, they will further diverge from Win32, meaning Win32 will stop seeing API updates and be relegated to an "insecure" and deprecated status.
MS is shifting Windows to a walled garden and will drag everyone there kicking and screaming.
Twinstiq, game news
I can already tell you who they won't drag kicking and screaming in to that world: gamers, graphics designers, video producers, [any other intense user here].
Sure, they might drag some business retards in to it because their sysadmin is an idiot who can't stand up to their shit boss, that's their fault. And the casual computer users that buy laptops and end up getting OEM crap on top. New old job opportunity, "will unfuck laptops for money, or a burger".
These groups are the ones that actually use most of that hardware their trash OS can barely manage to run on.
If they are forced in to a walled garden, most of them will just leave.
There is a large number of people now converting to Linux. More and more, people are researching, asking questions on and setting up:
1) Windows VM and GPU passthrough
2) Wine / PlayOnLinux / some other software wrappers and compatibility layer.
3) native support from program developers because most universally HATE UWP with a passion and a good number of them already know Microsoft were going to phase out Win32 and force UWP on everyone. This just confirms it will come sooner rather than later. Cross-compilation is fairly trivial. Drivers are the biggest issue.
Go ahead Microsoft. Wall yourself in to business. It's the only area you even make money decent money on.
Even your spyware OS is barely profitable given everything that has happened since its inception.
One day, Linux might even hit 5% on the desktop! AWE!
But seriously, they are pushing people away more and more each announcement.
I wonder how high a market share it will take for them to undo all the shit they've done and fire that "Become your own CEO in a summer" CEO. Even Ballmer wasn't this thick!
That's why they are getting Linux utilities running on Windows now natively, so they can easily interact with Windows services and become dependent on them.
If people put up with Microsoft's shit this far and haven't bolted, there's no hope for humanity. Honestly don't know what it would take at this point to make people move away from Windows en masse. Maybe an Android desktop will help but it's a long shot.
Twinstiq, game news
I'll take the lightweight version with a 'old school' UI that only does OS tasks without the shop and telemetry thank you very much.
We have only 17 XP computers, not a lot. But no problems.
We use other protection, of course.
They have been pushing to get into the "container business" for years now... they have done this same thing multiple times... XP was going to be using the NT kernel blah blah... then it was CE... so on and so forth... this time, they might actually get it done and even half ass correctly because of Docker getting so popular... they don't want to miss another internet like they did the first time... and like they did with phones... and phones will eventually support docker containers... or something like it...
I remember when this used to be a fucking tech blog... instead of all conspiracies all the time... not that the NSA / CIA / FBI ain't all over this... but making things smaller is a GOOD thing... hell ... I bet they open source it in the next 10 years anyway.