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Amazon Wants To Put a Camera and Microphone in Your Bedroom (vice.com)
On Wednesday, Amazon announced the Echo Look, the latest gadget in the company's new Echo-powered hardware lineup. Motherboard explains: The newly announced Echo Look is a virtual assistant with a microphone and a camera that's designed to go somewhere in your bedroom, bathroom, or wherever the hell you get dressed. Amazon is pitching it as an easy way to snap pictures of your outfits to send to your friends when you're not sure if your outfit is cute, but it's also got a built-in app called StyleCheck that is worth some further dissection. [...] "All photos and video captured with your Echo Look are securely stored in the AWS cloud and locally in the Echo Look app until a customer deletes them," a spokesperson for the company said. "You can delete the photos or videos associated with your account anytime in the Echo Look App." Motherboard also asked if Echo Look photos, videos, and the data gleaned from them would be sold to third parties; the company did not address that question.
Nope nope nope nope nope god no nope.
It is beyond me how could anyone think installing this in your home is a good idea. Plus, Jeff can afford to pay for his own pron.
Maybe technology is going too far.
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Some hacker has the misfortune of seeing me butt ass, it would persuade them into a more legitimate profession PDQ
Gone are the days where you have to wonder is there's a camera watching you dress or watching you be intimate in your bedroom. You never have to wonder again, because the answer is simply "Yes"! We will absolutely record your most private moments. Not only that, but we can automatically share them with the people who have no need to know. Have your parents been worried about how well you've been eating since you moved out? We'll send them a video of your latest BM!
I see you're having trouble merging with your wife tonight.
May I suggest you update your Viagra drivers to the next version?
If you can't get dressed on your own without seeking the approval of others (who aren't even in the same room with you) -- then you're already failing at life.
I mean, I realize I'm a guy (and one of those "techie" types who is know not to care about clothing style as much as others). But this is ridiculous, no matter who you are. If you spent hard-earned money on pieces of clothing you've got hanging up in your closet, that means you liked them enough to buy them in the first place. You're just being petty and superficial if you start changing your mind about actually wearing what you, yourself liked and picked out, all because someone else (looking at a digital photo sent over the Internet) disagrees with you.
I got my wife one of those $50 Fire tablets when they were new.
Lot of good it does them when the battery is never charged.....
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Who the f... thought that this is a good idea? That e.g. a woman would want to have her potentially naked photos "in the cloud"?
Oh and how long until this gets hacked and the juicy pictures leaked/sold? Amazon didn't take the lesson from the phone hacking scandal in the UK? This sort of device/service would be a goldmine for stalkers, creeps and tabloids hunting for juicy dirt.
Jesus Christ ...
I think that something like this has the possibility of being really popular. People are really, really stupid, and have little sense of self respect any more.
I don't respond to AC's.
Looks like we found the source for the next celebrity nude picture scandal. Only this time, instead of the pictures being intentionally taken by the celebrity or their lover, the photos are taken by someone that hacked the weak security surrounding the control system for the device and took the pictures themselves.
Security cameras are already ironically highly insecure, and those theoretically are from companies that should specialize in security, where the data should remain only on tightly controlled networks. This thing doesn't stand a chance.
Do not look into laser with remaining eye.
Since I got it all Amazon has on its main page are "Recommendations for you"
1. Diet pills.
2. Tread mill.
3. diet books
4. fitness bands.
Then under "Recommendations for you in clothing" all they have are tarps and a children's party bouncy castle.
I felt a disturbance in the force, as if a billion teenage girls cried out all at once.
Eternity: will that be smoking, or non-smoking? I Corinthians 6:9-10
This is honestly kind of a brilliant way to float a "presence" balloon. IMHO: At first Amazon didn't get what Echo was. They thought of it as an internet connected speaker, when in reality it was a modern day "Thing" from the Addams Family. I think they've learned that lesson, but one of the most important attributes of Thing is that it understood who was where, and who was addressing it. A lack of contextual awareness is what makes all automation suck. I don't want motion sensors to know if I moved, I want home automation that knows which room I'm in. I also think this is a shot across Apple's bow.
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How did the human race survive with just mirrors before this technology was developed?
Just fine, if you're actually looking for an answer.
Like most geniuses I wear the same clothes everyday, so this has no value for me.
For several years now, Amazon really has been leading the way toward making it impossible to tell the difference between joke product ideas and the real ones. Google/Apple/Microsoft have had some bad ideas too, but they all get totally left in the dust by Amazon. I mean, this is the company that sells buttons for buying stuff.
Is there a Poe's Law of consumer electronics yet? We're getting close to needing one.
"Believe me!" -- Donald Trump
and
What. Could. Possibly. Go. Wrong.
I think this deserve a new concept of "Nope-finity" to be invented, just to have a proper answer.
"Sufficiently advanced satire is indistinguishable from reality." - [Tips: 1DrYakQDKCQ6y52z6QbnkxHXAocMZJE61o ]
I could see
1 the devices get hacked and take some "extra" pictures
2 the data gets nicked and then resold
3 somebodies kidlet gets filmed
4 and the parent is a BIG NAME
5 the units get used as a spycam
So who wants to sell a "Blocker Bucket" that can be dropped on these things to prevent everything but 2??
Sorry, can't hear you.
Over the noise of a billion of 4chan creepy online freaks fapping at hacked pictures of said teenage girls.
"Sufficiently advanced satire is indistinguishable from reality." - [Tips: 1DrYakQDKCQ6y52z6QbnkxHXAocMZJE61o ]
It's fairly clear the author of the summary didn't even RTFA. Here is a better summary: This is an idea targeted at women in particular. The intent is to have Amazon Echo be able to answer the question "How do I look?"
Clearly, that's still kind of creepy but you can see why the person came up with the idea even if it's completely stupid. This kind of reminds of the Death 2.0 mobile app that can text you as if a dead loved one were still alive. These ideas are around trying to make "robots" or "artificial intelligence" have genuine human interaction with you.
We'll make great pets
"IoT devices designed to get you to use someone's services, are making it impossible to tell the difference between real products and parodies." -- Cajun Hell
"Believe me!" -- Donald Trump
" Amazon is pitching it as an easy way to snap pictures of your outfits to send to your friends when you're not sure if your outfit is cute "
What the serious fuck?
People can't even make decisions about their own clothes any more without consulting the groupmind?
-Styopa
Sure, I always wanted to send/transmit what I do in the bathroom to the world. Great opportunities for people pitch hair removal, hair growth, various enlargement products, dating services (complete with a hygiene rating index) as well as taste in perfume/cologne to consumers worldwide. It's a brave new world and EVERYTHING is up for grabs. Just take a good HOT shower and you have a smoke screen I guess.
"Imagination is more important than knowledge" - Einstein
I've wanted to put a camera in your bedroom for years, but where's my article?
Amazon is pitching it as an easy way to snap pictures of your outfits to send to your friends when you're not sure if your outfit is cute, ...
Alexa? Does this dress make me look fat?
It must have been something you assimilated. . . .
and best of all, my camera and microphone will cost HALF as much as Amazon is going to charge you. ;D
Unfortunately both of my parents have fallen for this stupid Amazon scheme.
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Clap off. The Clapper(tm) is the only microphone allowed in my bedroom.
Well... I guess the telephone has a microphone too.
“Common sense is not so common.” — Voltaire
People can't even make decisions about their own clothes any more without consulting the groupmind?
I take you you have not gone shopping with girls in the last 50 years?
“Common sense is not so common.” — Voltaire
If this is where our technology advances are leading us, it would not take an advanced AI to defeat mankind. Probably a refurbished C64 would do the job nicely.
The NSA, CIA, FBI and local police are board....
People have got to be fucking crazy if they want this
Well, if there's one thing the internet has proven itself to be perfect at, it's telling what color a dress is.
I've been wondering lately if tech companies are just throwing technology at various populations to see what sticks. Is it cheaper to develop this crap and see if they stumble on something popular and trendy, or if they actually spend any time or effort researching and vetting ideas before developing them? Maybe I'm slowly going beige, but this idea just seems ludicrous to my dusty old brain.
There are two types of people in the world; those who believe there are two types of people, and those who don't.
securely stored in the AWS cloud
I'm an American. I love this country and the freedoms that we used to have.
I imagine only teenage girls would be superficial enough that they'd feel the need to dress and undress in front of an Internet-connected camera so their outfits could be.... ...
hang on, I need to order 10 of these and a copy of ORA's "Hacking the IoT".
Dear Slashdot: next time you want to mess with the site, add a rich-text editor for comments.
I see lots of forums where people discuss motherboards, CPUs, power supplies, etc.
They can't even make decisions about their tech purchases any more without consulting the groupmind?
It's the only way to see Trump's dick
You don't need a microscope to see Steve Bannon, what are you talking about?
"That's the way to do it" - Punch
How Slashdot users would use this:
"Amazon, does this shirt and these trousers go together"
"No, red jeans should never be paired with Hawaiian shirts"
"Too late, it's already on my body"
"That's the way to do it" - Punch
Go fuck yourself. Stop trying to be anything other than a store.
I am so happy I got rid of my Amazon account.
I'm not sure I agree with that. Hardware wise they've had good success.
The Kindle e-reader was a life changer. I appreciate that device.
The Kindle tablet was fantastic. $35 (black Friday few years back) for a decent enough crappy tablet to give the kids- will play their crappy games without costing me a fortune if they drop it.
Getting into distribution has saved a bunch on shipping.
I watch Amazon Prime TV, only way I can find some shows.
I'm rather glad they've innovated and branched out. We even have a DOT that we use everyday to control lights in a room where accessing the switch is a bitch and is very useful (we're aware it records and stores everything we ask it, and we don't ask it where to bury bodies or anything).
The camera is a step too far, and one would hope those that use it, use it with some common sense (cover the lens when not in use, never walk in front of it naked, etc).
"That's the way to do it" - Punch
Step 1: install a cheap net-connected camera with a view of your kitchen
Step 2: sometime when your wife is starting dinner before you get home, use it to see what she is making
Step 3: text her to say you don't feel like [whatever she started making] tonight you want [something else specific]
Step 4: hear your wife ban connected cameras from your house
Practical demonstrations are more convincing than theory.
If you have small children and are less brave, use this method to positively comment on how she handled something with them while you weren't home.
When I see ideas like this, I have to work hard to remind myself that they're just the natural outgrowth of random stupidity, rather than part of some crypto-conspiratorial plan, probably involving the Illuminati and/or some sort of emergent tachycognitive post-human intelligence.
Rule 35 of the internet: "If it can be hacked, it will be". - Charles Stross
Also, BrickerBot seems more like a public service campaign every day.
Rule 35 of the internet: "If it can be hacked, it will be". - Charles Stross
This is where many stupidities collide. 1) 14 year old girl gets changed while talking on the phone 2) Says "It takes my picture when I say 'Photo me Echo'" 3) Echo takes picture of semi naked 14 year old 4) She says "And then I say 'Send it to everyone Echo'" 5) Picture goes to all her friends 6) School does random search of everyone's phone 7) All her friends charged with possession of Child porn and become sex offenders 8) Not sure who profits.
This is going to keep the CIA hacking team busy. So many new products to hack.
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When the echo first came out, I thought the last thing I wanted in my house was an always-on microphone. I stand corrected.
Took me a few reads to realize you stand corrected because this is the new last thing you want. I originally read that as you changed your mind and like the amazon mic now.
Frankly these are all abominations, but the bedroom fashion camera still comes in second to the trivially hacked camera equipped vibrator...
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Why? Did RealDoll start making nekomimi furry dolls? I'm supposed to be on their mailing list, damnit!
#DeleteFacebook
What would happen if a child wandered in front of the camera nude, and amazon stored that on their server -- would they be responsible for CP?
so amazon wants to be an sex offender?? now just wait for this get someone under 18!
I care HOW they are USED.
They tell you in the summary, so your friends can tell you if your outfit is cute.
I think what the above poster wanted to say would have been more appropriately expressed as
HOW they are ABUSED
"Sufficiently advanced satire is indistinguishable from reality." - [Tips: 1DrYakQDKCQ6y52z6QbnkxHXAocMZJE61o ]
go wrong?
How convenient, a RAT that you can install yourself.
... as in: "How many times did I get up to pee last night?"
"When was the last time I took a shit?"
I already have this stuff, so I know there's a market.
It little behooves the best of us to comment on the rest of us.
I use an inexpensive baby monitor for a pet cam when away , shows temperature and provides audio otherwise it is off line. Think an Alexa capable web cam could be useful for their product portfolio. I would like one that has remote rotation capability if not to expensive. A couple inexpensive dot like cameras would be nice so could cover multiple viewing angles. The social features for others makes sense given Instagrams success for Amazon to tip into that space. Suggest hard off switches for devices with remote cams and mics- wish I had more confidence my smart phone not remotely recording/ transmitting. The Look not much different in this way but at least users should be more aware since its main purpose. Some over blown paranoia get a tin foil hat instead if turning off when don't want to use if to much of a chore for you.
As these are consumer devices, security will suck. Maybe it will be better than average, but even then it likely takes one talented black-hat and pictures from your bedroom will make it on the Internet.
Most ACs are not even worth the keystrokes to insult them. Be generically insulted by this and ignored otherwise.
What it does is obtain footage of people and store it indefinitely (Amazon confirmed this), while feeding it to AI and potentially sell it to 3rd parties. Feature Creep is a real thing in privacy related matters: data is collected for X, but soon after someone sees that the data is also usable for Y and it's used for Y, without asking the original person giving data for X whether it can be used for Y, as they don't have to (it's in every EULA).
Your post shows you're really naive when it comes to these things: don't trust anyone with your data and personal information: it _will_ be used for things you haven't given permission for.
Never underestimate the relief of true separation of Religion and State.
"Thank you for your request. If selected, you will receive an email with an invitation to purchase. This product is available by invitation only." Bummer. How is this different than just using a selfie stick?
... for Amazon's Echo Crap, which goes in the toilet bowl, analyzes your elimination procedures and products, and offers helpful advice on health, diet, and lifestyle. Thanks to the built-in waterproof camera it will also perform motion-efficiency analysis on your wiping activities.
And should you suddenly decide you want to buy something while you're lightening your load, or feel that your Facebook friends want to know about your excretory success, it features Amazon's patented Intrusive Voice Activated Spying with Immediate Impulse Satisfaction.
Old, fat people pr0n?
Why the hell would you want a camera in my bedroom? WHEN you get "action" it's going to be a flabby @$$ attempting to (@)%@ another flabby @$$.
The rest is going to be dark with a lot of snoring.
What he got right was that we would all have a telescreens in our homes.
What he got wrong is not realizing that we would enthusiastically welcome it with open arms.
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