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Hurricane Irma Reaches 185 MPH, Trailing Only Allen As Strongest Atlantic Storm On Record (arstechnica.com)
An anonymous reader quotes a report from Ars Technica: We are quickly running out of adjectives to describe the destructive potential of Hurricane Irma. As of 2pm ET on Tuesday, the National Hurricane Center upgraded the storm's sustained winds to 185mph. This is near-record speed for a storm in the Atlantic basin, which includes the Atlantic Ocean, Caribbean Sea, and Gulf of Mexico. Such high, sustained winds tie Irma for the second-strongest storm on record in the Atlantic, along with Hurricane Wilma (2005), Hurricane Gilbert (1998), and the 1935 Florida Keys hurricane. Only Hurricane Allen, which reached 190 mph in 1980 before striking a relatively unpopulated area of Texas, reached a higher wind speed. Globally, the all-time record for hurricanes is held by Patricia, which reached a staggering 215 mph in the Pacific Ocean in 2015. Although sustained winds capture the most public attention, meteorologists generally measure the intensity of a storm based upon central pressures, which are considerably lower than sea-level pressure on Earth, 1,013 millibars. Typhoon Tip, in 1979, holds this record at 870 millibars. For now, at least, Irma has a relatively high central pressure of 927 millibars. Why the storm has such an odd wind-speed-pressure relationship isn't entirely clear. According to the National Hurricane Center, Irma is expected to bring catastrophic winds and potential storm surges to the U.S. Virgin Islands, Puerto Rico, Dominican Republic, and the UK territory of Turks and Caicos this week. The Florida Keys could get hit by late Saturday night or Sunday.
...probably reached 200 MPH, but the instruments at Keesler AFB were blown away when Camille hit Biloxi, so they can't count "sustained wind speed."
Reported, hopefully the storm slams some Caribbean island with mountains to take the edge off before hitting the US. Lovely.
Two storms of unusual magnitude, exceptional temperatures in parts of CA, but hey, climate change is worldwide con, right?
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Gas prices will go up!
I think that the prediction is actually for fewer storms, but greater magnitude..... ....
C. Model simulations of greenhouse warming influence on Atlantic hurricanes
Our regional model projects that Atlantic hurricane and tropical storms are substantially reduced in number, for the average 21st century climate change projected by current models, but have higher rainfall rates, particularly near the storm center."
I guess you will also have an explanation for the fact that there is less ice in the Arctic?
Summary: climate change denier detected.
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How long have we been measuring winds in storms that are still this far out? Would we have known if a storm was this strong at its current location 50 years ago?
So...it wasn't that bad right?
Hell, Irma is only a cat above it.
she is Irmese not an "irma"
however these speeds are only found in the eyewall so it's not as bad as it sounds.
Sure, if the winds were responsible for the majority of damage and lives lost. But they're not, so it is just as bad as it sounds.
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So far this season, we've had 9 named storms, 4 of which have become hurricanes, 2 major hurricanes. While we've still got 3 more months, but the end of September is the end of the peak, with a few storms in October, and almost none in November. Predictions at the start of the season were for about 14 named storms, 6-7 hurricanes, and 3 major hurricanes. So we're on track for a really boring, average year in terms of Atlantic hurricanes.
The only reason both storms seem unusual is because until Harvey, the U.S. hadn't been hit by a major hurricane since 2005. Contrary to the doom and gloom scenario painted by climate change alarmists after Katrina, Rita, and Wilma, who warned us that 2005 was going to become the new norm for Atlantic hurricanes. Sometimes outliers are nothing more than outliers.
Two storms of unusual magnitude, exceptional temperatures in parts of CA, but hey, climate change is worldwide con, right?
Not a con, closer to a religion.
Scientists who want to speak out are threatened in various ways, the arguments are made by insult and bullying, some (read: some) of the methods are sketchy, and some of the data has been manipulated.
I used to be a climate change believer, until about a year ago when it was highlighted as a political issue, and not an issue of science. I had been blinded by everyone saying things like "the science is settled" and "all scientists agree" and so on. It was an epiphany to discover that something I held as "obviously correct" was based on, effectively, nothing.
Well, the science is not settled, the "all scientists agree" is taken out of context and doesn't refer to what you think it does, the data has been manipulated, and most importantly critique and debate are not allowed.
The whole issue also conflates the political decisions with the science. Anyone who disagrees with the political policy, such as carbon credits or reducing US birth rate, is called stupid for not believing in science.
Interpretation by a chosen elite, evidence in either direction supports the conclusion, disbelievers are harassed and threatened, discussion and disagreement are not allowed... that sounds like a religion.
Climate change is a religion.
Weather may not be climate, but the statistical behavior of weather certainly is.
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We'll all remember your instance that weather is climate the furst extreme cold snap that occurs this winter
That would be a valid argument if "cold snaps" were becoming statistically more likely or more severe. They are not. Instead we have a million square miles of open water where we used to have ice pack.
But hurricanes are becoming more intense. Ocean surface temperatures have risen 0.7C, which has lead to about a 10% rise in max wind speed.
The related links section at the bottom of the page listed "Donald Trump Wins US Presidency".
Perhaps Slashdot's servers are on to something: giant sucking windbags, massive economic damages, and constant media attention. I understand how it could mistake the resemblement.
No, you were not. You read Breitbart, which clearly indicates your PoV.
Yeah, but before about a year ago I *didn't*.
Today I go to Breitbart first, to find out what's going on.
Then I check the MSM, to find out why it's Trump's fault.
If you want people to start believing in climate change, you should start using logic and science in your arguments.
Instead of, you know, insults.
We'll all remember your insistence that weather is climate the first extreme cold snap that occurs this winter, which by your logic utterly disproves global warming...
Individual, localized events are weather. Widespread patterns of events are climate. It's really not hard. And we have a pattern of increases in severe storms. This storm by itself is not evidence, but the larger pattern it fits into is.
Also, note that you should expect global warming to produce extreme cold weather in some locations, where "extreme" is compared to local historical records. Global warming is going to significantly alter weather patterns, and that will result in some areas getting colder, others getting hotter, some getting wetter, others getting drier, etc. Heck, some areas will probably get both hotter and colder.
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That's the funny thing about climate change deniers: every winter storm is a sign that climate change is false too. It's a general problem with these kind of arguments.
It's a statistical trend. It *is* too much to attribute individual storms to climate change, and models suggest the number of storms might even decline while the intensity and rainfall amounts per storm go up. Nevertheless, it's not a positive thing, especially when you add a little higher sea level over a period of decades and more population to be affected by a given storm.
That would be a valid argument if "cold snaps" were becoming statistically more likely or more severe.
Not really. Global warming will rearrange climate patterns, so we should expect that some regions will begin to have more severe winters, with longer and more severe cold snaps, etc. even as the global average increases.
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Great, by the looks of it, Irma and I are both scheduled to land in FL at about the same time. Something tells me this isn't going to be as great of a vacation as I my wife had anticipated. Well, at least it won't be boring.
I see that link was JUST published (Aug 30 2017). Because after all, what we have seen this year is larger than average storms...
So of course your death cult needs a new story to back up it's belief system, by making predictions around things that have already happened.
However mankind had developed this thing called Google, and it shows the duplicity of your fellow cult members in stark relief to your assertions.
No matter that the link you just provided will be proven utterly false over the next five years, you'll just publish some new lies for the masses to consume.
There are MANY people who claimed Global Warming meant more frequent hurricanes, before we had a major lull in recent years...
That's because none of you seem to even understand physics, much less climate, or you would understand global warming means neither more frequent nor any change to the average size of hurricanes.
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Sorry, here is a link to the many, many people who claimed Global Warming would cause more hurricanes.
It's also funny how the GFDL used to claim global warming would neither make hurricanes more frequent nor more powerful...
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Who is doing that? We have the entire history of recorded meteorology to draw upon; it's quite easy to identify a single storm as a statistical outlier.
Generally any data point more than 1.5 IQRs above the third quartile is an outlier, and should be a rare bird. Of course you do on occasion run into a rare bird, but if you start seeing them on a regular basis that means either you are having implausibly strange luck or something underlying has changed.
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Just how many nukes do you think NK has, and why would you think the US would even need to use nukes if it came to attacking NK? The US's conventional weapons are more than adequate to knock down pretty much every major structure in NK.
I'd say the people who need to worry are the South Koreans and Japanese.
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Basically a really large EF4 tornado, however these speeds are only found in the eyewall so it's not as bad as it sounds.
Plenty bad enough. The eye of Irma is currently 40 km across, which means when the eye sweeps over some place a zone 40+ km is getting hit with the maximum wind speed. I don't want to meet up with any ~50 km wide tornado.
But people get fixated on the wind speeds. Throw in a 3-4 m storm surge and torrential rain, all at the same time...
Second class citizen of the New Gilded Age
I guess you will also have an explanation for the fact that there is less ice in the Arctic?
Well, it is an interglacial......
Even if there was no such thing as climate science slow warming would be a safe bet.
Human industrial activity within the past 300 years, especially with the most significant of it happening only within the past 100 years, is not responsible for the ice sheets retreating. This most recent cycle of retreating glaciation has been going on for over 10,000 years now, and started well before humans were engaging in any sort of notable industrial activity.
The more recent cycle of retreating glaciation started over 20,000 years ago and was largely over by the Holocene Climatic Optimum 5,000-9,000 years ago. Since then temperatures have generally been declining and glaciers growing ... until recently when anthropogenic global warming has taken over.
This is a really difficult forecast for a number of reasons.
Most major hurricanes don't just gradually intensify to a category 3 or 4, let alone well into category 5. They undergo periods of rapid intensification, due to bursts of thunderstorms in the core of the storm with lots of hot towers developing. Harvey did this before making landfall in Texas. Irma has done this twice. However, forecasting when this will happen is generally beyond the current limits of meteorology. The Ships statistical model only called for a gradual intensification of Irma. Some of the dynamical models like the GFS, HWRF, and HMON did predict rapid intensification. However, they have been predicting that it was imminent for days, without actually happening. It's obvious when rapid intensification is occurring because the hot towers show up in infrared satellite imagery. But there's very little skill in predicting rapid intensification before it starts. It's related somewhat to ocean heat content, but it doesn't explain when there's high ocean heat content but rapid intensification doesn't occur. Most major hurricanes do undergo rapid intensification at some point, and it's very hard to predict.
It's very likely that Irma will take a hard right turn in a few days and move north. There is very good agreement among the models that this will occur. However, it's not clear exactly when this will happen. If it happens sooner, Irma could miss Florida entirely and move toward the Carolinas. This isn't especially likely, but it's possible. It could turn north a bit later and move across the Florida Keys into South Florida. There are also model solutions that bring Irma into the eastern Gulf of Mexico. This last situation also isn't especially likely, but is definitely possible. This doesn't include true outlier model forecasts, such as missing the United States entirely. Irma will also get close to Cuba, and moving over mountainous land for an extended period of time could wake Irma substantially. It just isn't clear yet whether this will happen or not. Hurricanes are steered by winds in the upper atmosphere around areas of high pressure (ridges) and low pressure (troughs). There are currently special upper air observations being taken every six hours in the central United States to help with forecasting Irma. There's an upper level trough over its area, that will interact with a ridge to the east, which has an impact on steering Irma. It's not clear whether these extra observations are helping with the forecasting of Irma, but it's definitely possible. Maybe these types of special observations well over a thousand miles from a storm have been taken before, but I don't recall seeing it. It's a very interesting idea for sure, to try to help improve forecasting of the storm's track in the 3-7 day time frame. Even though we know Irma will very likely take a hard turn to the north, relatively small differences in where this occurs will have a big difference on the impacts to the United States. And this is not at all unusual in hurricane forecasting.
Despite running tens of different computer models every six hours, it's really hard to predict where the storm is going to go. And yet the track forecasting has improved quite a bit over the past couple of decades, definitely outpacing intensity forecasts.
We'll all remember your instance that weather is climate the furst extreme cold snap that occurs this winter, which by your logic utterly disproves global warming...
I guess to you it's just an "inconvenient truth" how long it's been since we've even had any serious hurticanes hit the US.
Part of the reason why the hurricanes were absent was because of an unusual prolonged el Nino in the Pacific. The duration and severity of the typhoons in the Eastern Pacific during the el Nino years were also effected. But because typhoons do not directly effect North Americans by and large they are ignored. Now the situation is doing a wild swing in the other direction. Now we see the jet stream taking a long sweep to the north all summer pumping moisture eastward like a vacuum cleaner gone mad. All indications of radical changes in the earths climate. These changes are like the mood swings in bipolar individuals that are becoming suicidal.
The upside of the damage that is being done is that it might just shut down a fair portion of the biggest polluters and make gasoline and oil refining too expense to maintain thereby effectively reducing North American oil consumption. Houston and the gulf coast was a dumb place to put the majority of North America's key oil refining infrastructure the same as putting the Fukushima nuclear facility near the ocean in an earth quake hot spot was not exactly the best idea it was just the cheapest place to build because of the easy water and a handy heavy lift port access.
We are in for a very rough ride, this is just the beginning of hurricane season and a sustained change in corresponding ocean temperature patterns. My bet is that the majority of US centric ignorant Americans do not even know about the very recent North Pacific Blob and how radical changes in the ocean temp there are strongly effecting much more than just global weather patterns in ways never seen in history.
Right now large areas of Southern California are experiencing temps that are marginal for human survival. 45 degrees C over more than a few days is downright dangerous and the pattern of extreme summer drought on the West Coast will be followed with flooding in winter. Unfortunately we have brought this situation on ourselves and it will take huge human die off to effectively wake people up. Ocean temp change are contributing to the loss of a huge portion of the ocean's fisheries which is almost exclusively from our activities. The rapid loss of cheap protein from ocean sources will be the first phase of a planetary human die off. Be prepared for Friskies kitty vitals at 10 dollars a can boys! MEOW
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I was going to mod you up, but then I found out my mod points expired last night. Anyway, good point.
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we might have spotted that.
Anthropogenic global warming is still a useful term. Much of the climate change we are seeing is a result of global warming. The term "climate change" just encompasses all of the effects that include things besides warming.
After Texas, Florida be like.. Hold my beer!
Hurricanes seem to come in two types. There are storms in which wind is the problem and storms in which rain is the real enemy and the winds quite tolerable. What happened to Houston was a wet storm that will cause massive property damage and very few deaths. Katrina was a wind storm that force the damns and levies to fail causing huge numbers of deaths. Irma is a wind storm and more so it is hell on a stick. If that storm strikes Miami I would expect almost all homes and buildings to be leveled. Winds of 185 mph. with gusts at 225 mph are sever enough to pretty much erase a city from the face of the Earth. there are about two million people in Miami. Evacuation is impossible. I am 110 miles north of Miami and a potential victim of this storm. God help Houston if this storm happens to strike them. Now I see on the radar that there are two more hurricanes trailing Irma. Now every right winger should shout at once "There is no global warming." That way when they open their pie hole I can shove a brick down their throats.
The accepted science until last week, apparently, was that global warming creates more wind sheer which reduced the magnitude of hurricanes.
But how convenient that a new study came out just as Hurricane Harvey, a storm that will prove to be the most expensive in U.S. history, was petering out. Hurricanes are back on the global warming bandwagon at such a convenient moment.
"His name was James Damore."
None of your rant is actually relevant. The problem wasn't "weather pumping anything all summer. it was the fact that we got an oddball hurricane that decided to linger a bit. If not for this peculiar bit of movement it would have been much less interesting and damaging.
Your narrative doesn't explain what happened.
> Right now large areas of Southern California are experiencing temps that are marginal for human survival.
You mean the desert? It's always been like that. Just ask anyone that's ever lived in Nevada, Arizona, or southern Utah. This is the sort of hysterical silliness that makes "deniers" out of people.
A Pirate and a Puritan look the same on a balance sheet.
Basically a really large EF4 tornado, however these speeds are only found in the eyewall so it's not as bad as it sounds. The problem is a lot of these islands are mostly third world shitholes with shoddily built buildings that are going to get blown into kindling. This could wind up being the single most deadly disaster directly attributable to AGW that we have seen yet.
I dunno. Super Typhoon Haiyan killed 6300 in the Philippines alone and had sustained winds of 195mph. That's a pretty hard act to follow.
Basically a really large EF4 tornado, however these speeds are only found in the eyewall so it's not as bad as it sounds.
No, this is like a tornado 100 miles in diameter, moving at a walking pace.
You're right to note that the winds actually aren't the biggest danger. That prize goes to the ocean surge. Water is a little denser than air, so it tends to require less movement to do a lot more damage. But don't discount what winds like that can do.
Here's one projection, showing Irma impacting south Florida pretty hard. Luckily for the USA, in this model it drags itself along the length of Cuba, which impedes its wind speeds significantly. But I can tell you from experience that sustained winds in excess of 60 knots are not to be trifled with. They'll knock down a lot of walls, trees, power lines and the like, as well as breaking a shitload of windows. The storm surge looks to be pretty heavy for Miami, too, so even if the winds don't knock it about, that doesn't mean it's scot free.
I've been through a Category 5 cyclone with similar winds. Let me assure you, it's not a pleasant experience. We lost eight out of eleven state of the art cyclone shutters around the house before it let up.
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We have the entire history of recorded meteorology to draw upon
So about 150 years of observations out of 4 billion years of Earth's existence. That's actually much worse than a sample of size 1.
Are you willing to go on the PERMANENT record (thanks to the never forgetting Internet) so that people you care about (friends, spouses, children, grandchildren) know that you:
Denied the overwhelming scientific consensus on Climate Change?
Thought Obamacare was a disaster?
Refused to believe in Evolution? (This is my particular interest, I am a genetic engineer. Now that we can see Evolution happening right down to the molecular level, disputing it is laughable. Not to mention "Nothing in Biology makes sense without it").
Or for that matter:
Think the Federal Government was planning to take over Texas in 2015 (The "Jade" something or other exercise)?
Believe that there is a Pizza parlor in Washington D.C. that was a front for Democratic pedophiles?
Think that because Trump criticized Clinton on Goldman Sachs he wouldn't end up in their pocket?
I could go on but you get the picture. How many times do you have to be proven WRONG and been a victim of FAKE NEWS before you learn some critical thinking? Not only are you hurting the republic by voting for idiots (Bush) or frauds (Trump) but you are really hurting yourselves by believing that these leaders will help you (the working class) instead of just making them and their super rich friends richer, and by making stupid decisions like buying waterfront property in places like Texas and Florida.
Anyway, if thinking won't get you to reflect on your positions; maybe shame will. How about you tell the ones you care about the social media accounts like slashdot where you post things? Assuming you at least have the balls to not post Anonymously, tell them your username. Let them see what you really think. (I have, in fact I'm proud to show them).
Of course if Climate Change really is a hoax, and the Republicans come up with a much better replacement to Obamacare and God LITERALLY created the animals in one go (and forever fixed their attributes), then your friends and children and grandchildren will see you as the genius you are!
None of your rant is actually relevant. The problem wasn't "weather pumping anything all summer. it was the fact that we got an oddball hurricane that decided to linger a bit. If not for this peculiar bit of movement it would have been much less interesting and damaging.
Your narrative doesn't explain what happened.
> Right now large areas of Southern California are experiencing temps that are marginal for human survival.
You mean the desert? It's always been like that. Just ask anyone that's ever lived in Nevada, Arizona, or southern Utah. This is the sort of hysterical silliness that makes "deniers" out of people.
I doubt if Eastern North Americans know anything about what is currently happening in the West. The areas of the west that are experiencing record breaking temperatures and drought are far greater than the news media in the east is reporting. The heat wave in British Columbia is breaking all records for lack of rainfall and the areas of California reaching over 110f are not the areas you have stated!
To state that hurricanes in the Atlantic have nothing to do with the shifting climate cycles of the Pacific and the corresponding unusual and prolonged northern track of the jet stream is just plain wrong. A normal el Nino year would by now see a moderate cooling of the waters of the Atlantic where hurricanes start to form. Instead because the jet stream is staying way to the north cooler air is not making it to the areas of the Atlantic that are carried south and east by the trade winds. If this situation continues to the end of September then the Atlantic could easily spawn serious hurricanes into November instead of just the usual tropical depressions that send fall and winter rains to the east coast of North America. I suggest you go work for Ronald Frump, who knows he might need some help rebuilding his golf courses in Florida soon if Irma hits land there at cat 5 ;-) My apologies to Ronald Frump. Also my sincere apologies to the real Republican Ronald Frump in Florida who has a very unfortunate name but would most likely make a better POTUS than the current moron.
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Why do so many of the same people who don't believe in climate change believe that illegal immigrants commit felonies at a greater rate than American citizens?
Aren't they on the side of science and reason?
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There are none so dumb as the wilfully ignorant:
An epic heat wave that swept through the Bay Area on Friday smashed records -- including the all-time recorded high in San Francisco -- and promises more of the same on Saturday, with places like Livermore and Concord perhaps seeing the mercury rise even higher.
See that: "all-time recorded high in San Francisco"
So, no. Not the desert.
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Thing is, BC and Alberta need those dryer conditions as well as the forest fires. Flood and drought cycles are also cyclical in those regions. So do many northern states, it's one of the few things that actually kill the problems they're having with pine beetle infestations. The trees that the beetles kill as well, are basically kindling to boot and nobody really wants to use it for anything. It's too expensive for the pulp industry to double bleach, even then it doesn't get the "blue" fecal colouring out of the wood pulp. The integrity of the wood is compromised so it's useless for building materials, so it can be used for houses. It's either cut down and sold as firewood(inter-state only) because of the beetles, or left to dead rot.
Om, nomnomnom...
San Francisco is is classed in either desert, mild desert, or semi-arid climate depending on which classification scale you want. So yeah, the desert. A few scales classify it as "arid-mediterranean."
The only reason it looks so pretty and green is because of all the water used to make it look like that.
Om, nomnomnom...
I'd say the people who need to worry are the South Koreans and Japanese.
You mean because the vast majority of the semiconductor industry is based in both countries? Or the number of companies that directly operate out of those regions for trans-pacific and trans-atlantic shipping? Yeah, that won't impact your life at all.
Let's not even go nuclear. Let's say China puts the pressure on N.Korea, and N.Korea responds by directly shelling S.Korea in retaliation or starts firing medium range missiles at S.Kore and Japan. Wanna guess what happens? The entire semiconductor industry and 60% of shipping comes to a screeching halt overnight. Yep, you can thank previous presidents for kicking this can down the road and China who are either unable, or unwilling to do anything. I think it's more of a case they're unable at this point, which of course means that economic sanctions on banks and a trade war will be the most likely case. It'll still be nasty, but not nearly as nasty as say having to evacuate Seoul or having to see Japan push their entire military into "active self-defense."
Om, nomnomnom...
'ER', excuse me but no record cold snaps, there were record snow falls. How here is how that works, once it is cold enough to freeze water it is cold enough, the critical point how much water in the atmosphere to freeze. So whether it is -10 C or -8 C because it is 2 degrees warmer will not affect snow falls, how much water there is in the atmosphere after evaporating over warmer oceans, will. So during the last round of bullshit, this was covered, yes, expect much worse snow storms, they'll be a little warmer but they will have much more water 'er' snow to dump on your cities. This is all your are doing https://www.youtube.com/watch?... and it is actually happening, actually really happening, you have become https://duckduckgo.com/?q=lotu....
Chaos - everything, everywhere, everywhen
Wrong.
The predictions FAILED. Read that word again. FAILED.
No, you don't get to predict something, get it wrong for a couple of decades, then pretend you got it right when a couple of big storms finally pop up in one season.
This isn't about "scatter" or "statistical flukes." This is year after year after year of failed predictions, which are not made correct by one year of slightly-worse tropical weather.
Yep.
I was there, sheltering in our apartment as far away from the windows as we could get. While the telco had the sense to take down their giant dish in a hurry (and managed to put it back up again afterward in an equally big hurry), the management of our apartment complex went up to the roof and tightened all the bolts on their dishes. All were trashed; one of them made a lovely noise when it broke loose, flew clean across the complex, and took out five floors' worth of windows on its way to earth...
Didn't get power back for ten days, and we were lucky. By knowing people who know people, we somehow managed to get into one of the hotels for a hot meal. A stranded British Airways crew who'd been staying there were mucking in and doing what they could to keep the place running. Good times!
Still can't eat corned beef...
You're condensing all climatology into a couple of unsourced predictions, and drawing a conclusion. How is anyone supposed to take that seriously?
Well thank Man for staving off the ice age!
Whether it is desert or not isn't really relevant to the issue of all-time record high temperatures.
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'ER', excuse me but no record cold snaps
Ahh, typical revisionist liberal ignores history. And that was just last year alone...
Don't you get tired of lying and lying to try and protect your death cult? I can only imagine imagine the horror it wreaks on your psychology after a while. You must be fifty shades of fucked up by now, which I guess we can all see from your response...
*shakes head*
I'll let you have the last response, I don't think at this point you can even see reality any more, not even with "cold" hard proof in front of you... just sad to see a life wasted like that.
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I doubt it. The whole "nuclear winter" scenario was based on the US and the Soviets launching a significant fraction of their nuclear arsenals. NK doesn't have more than a handful of devices, and I don't think the yields are that high. I would imagine at worst it would be similar to the cooler temperatures caused when the Iraqis lit the oil wells in Kuwait during their retreat in the First Gulf War. It might have some impact, but hardly the "nuclear winter" of dozens of megaton devices blowing up in Eurasia and North America.
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We've probably overshot on that by quite a bit.
I thought the debate was regarding temperatures and you're using "desert" to argue/justify your point, but desert has nothing to do with temperature. It's based on precipitation.
believe that illegal immigrants commit felonies
Illegal. Felony.
Really. You can't make this shit up.
Aah, change is good. -- Rafiki
Yeah, but it ain't easy. -- Simba
Wind energy increases at the square of the speed. 10% is vague, but lets call it from 165mph to 185mph leading to a 25.7% increase in energy. Average of ocean water is around 17C, or 190K. Going from 190K to 190.7k, for an energy increase of 0.3%. Three tenths of a change in the input, will result in a nearly 30% increase in the output? Outstanding claims require outstanding explanations.
Aah, change is good. -- Rafiki
Yeah, but it ain't easy. -- Simba
It is not a felony to be undocumented in the United States. It's not even a misdemeanor. It's a civil infraction, like parking in a no-parking zone. It doesn't even meet the strict definition of "crime".
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Hillary Lost is good news, but Trump winning is horrible news.
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TLDR: Antarctica is a desert.
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So I guess then you cant count?
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The guy who said the election was rigged won the presidency with the second-most votes.
before posting again, i suggest learning the definitions of the words you use.
The guy who said the election was rigged won the presidency with the second-most votes.
Once again you prove you have no clue what youre talking about.
The guy who said the election was rigged won the presidency with the second-most votes.
To state that hurricanes in the Atlantic have nothing to do with the shifting climate cycles of the Pacific and the corresponding unusual and prolonged northern track of the jet stream is just plain wrong. A normal el Nino year would by now see a moderate cooling of the waters of the Atlantic where hurricanes start to form. Instead because the jet stream is staying way to the north cooler air is not making it to the areas of the Atlantic that are carried south and east by the trade winds. If this situation continues to the end of September then the Atlantic could easily spawn serious hurricanes into November instead of just the usual tropical depressions that send fall and winter rains to the east coast of North America..
The position of the PFJ (I assume you are referring the polar front jet, there is more than one ;]) right now is quite consistent with normal weather patterns as it typically remains more zonal and poleward during the summer months. The reason why the PFJ moves poleward during this time of year is because of increased heating at the equator which, simply put, expands the atmosphere and pushes everything North/South, depending on your hemisphere. Its actually dipping fairly far south right now into the US then shooting poleward through the NE into the Atlantic along the Bermuda-Azores high. That high is also the reason Irma is hitting the Caribbean and not NY, although it could still turn north depending on the position of the high as she gets closer. https://earth.nullschool.net/ is a good resource if you want to see for your self.
August and September are historically the peak of TC development as its driven more by the warm waters of the North equatorial current (receiving increased heating from the sun during this time) than the jet so its what is happening right now is not uncommon at all.
As someone who works in the meteorology field I don't disagree that AGW is and will continue to change our weather but it isn't quite so drastic as you make it seem.
Not a felony, though. I was responding to someone claiming it was a felony. Words have meaning.
You are welcome on my lawn.
More undocumented aliens overstay their visas rather than sneak across the border illegally. So, "crossing the border illegally" is a red herring when talking about undocumented. So, it's not pedantic to say that it is not a felony to be undocumented in the US.
Also, since the topic was felonies, you should know that the percentage of undocumented people who have committed felonies is approximately HALF of the percentage of the total population who have committed felonies. You read that right.
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So death valley being a desert has no issue with all-time record high temperatures? Who knew. If you've been to either place, it's pretty easy to figure out why there's also extreme temperature swings.
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Once again, you add nothing of value. I'm still waiting replies to other posts by you that you ran away from, feel free, create a new thread to them.
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Um, NOAA also says this, so let's not jump to conclusions just because it fits our agenda or preconceived notions:
It is premature to conclude that human activities–and particularly greenhouse gas emissions that cause global warming–have already had a detectable impact on Atlantic hurricane or global tropical cyclone activity. That said, human activities may have already caused changes that are not yet detectable due to the small magnitude of the changes or observational limitations, or are not yet confidently modeled (e.g., aerosol effects on regional climate).
Just another day in Paradise
you honestly think 1 event out of 4 billion years is better than 150 years of events out of 4 billion years?
My brother lives in AG, behind the Pismo Dunes. I really like this part of California, but it's quite a long drive from San Diego, which is why my mom takes the Amtrak back and forth.
Beware of the Redittor who loans you a Sharpie.