Ford Disguised a Man As a Car Seat To Research Self-Driving (techcrunch.com)

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Ford Disguised a Man As a Car Seat To Research Self-Driving (techcrunch.com)

Posted by BeauHD on Wednesday September 13, 2017 @10:50AM from the master-of-disguise dept.

According to TechCrunch, Ford put a man in a car seat disguise so that a Ford Transit could masquerade as a true self-driving vehicle in order to evaluate how passers-by, other drivers on the road and cyclists reacted to sharing the road with an autonomous vehicle. From the report: The trial, conducted with the Virginia Tech Transportation Institute, also made use of a light bar mounted on the top of the windshield to provide communication about what the car was doing, including yielding, driving autonomously or accelerating from a full stop. The Transit Connect van used for the trial would indicate its behavior using signals including a slow white pulse for yielding, a rapid blinking for accelerating from a stop, and staying solid if it's actively in self-driving mode. The bar is positioned roughly where a driver's eye line would be, to try to catch the attention of those around it who would look in its direction.

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That outfit would have made a great viral YT video by JoeyRox · 2017-09-13 10:56 · Score: 3

Been done before but the Ford setup is much more convincing.
Terrible article by Anonymous Coward · 2017-09-13 11:05 · Score: 0

It's an interesting idea, but the article is awful. How about some preliminary results from the earliest stages of testing? Also, could useful data sets be obtained from Uber's self driving cars? Many of those cars won't actually be empty, but none of the people will be driving.
1. Re:Terrible article by PopeRatface · 2017-09-13 11:40 · Score: 1
  
  It would have been a better story if they had the guy who was dressed as a car seat walk into a bar.
  
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2. Re:Terrible article by LifesABeach · 2017-09-13 12:09 · Score: 1
  
  And be greeted with the statement, "we don't serve your kind here." Apologies to Star War fans.
No useful data by taustin · 2017-09-13 11:08 · Score: 1

on how people would react, since it is presently illegal to send out a self driving car onto public roads without a person there ready to take control. If it were legal, people would react differently (like, probably, fewer of them would call the cops).
1. Re:No useful data by mikael · 2017-09-13 11:33 · Score: 2
  
  They tried with drive throughs (with an invisible driver):
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?...
  
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2. Re:No useful data by Anonymous Coward · 2017-09-13 11:37 · Score: 0
  
  The public should have reacted appropriately and shoot the engine and tires until the horrid, rebelling machine stops. And doing it by using semi-automatic rifles while wearing back rain coats, of course. Too soon? It's always too soon for these jokes.
3. Re:No useful data by LifesABeach · 2017-09-13 12:11 · Score: 1
  
  "...while wearing back rain coats..." What an interesting fashion idea, thanks.
4. Re:No useful data by Anonymous Coward · 2017-09-13 13:40 · Score: 0
  
  Could it be that the most common reason for youthful angst is in fact associated with the digestive system?
5. Re:No useful data by n3r0.m4dski11z · 2017-09-13 15:05 · Score: 1
  
  "If it were legal, people would react differently (like, probably, fewer of them would call the cops)."
  Unless its been on TV, no one knows whats legal and whats not. Especially with weird new technology. So you are assuming a lot there. More likely they would video it and upload it to be some kind of superstar, which is this generations "thing".
  
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6. Re:No useful data by Opportunist · 2017-09-13 23:38 · Score: 1
  
  Any 80s kid has seen a self driving car on TV.
  Actually even with a similar costume for the actual driver.
  
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7. Re:No useful data by kaatochacha · 2017-09-14 11:08 · Score: 1
  
  I'd suggest mounting a large Green Goblin head on the front of a truck, if you're really looking for a reaction.
old story about talking cars.... by turkeydance · 2017-09-13 11:12 · Score: 3, Informative

waaay back in the day, when Ford/Chevy made "talking cars", as in the female (always female) voice "your door is a jar" or ajar or something like that, a new Buick bought by a church-going lady ran off the road after leaving the dealership. she said that "haunts are in my car" (haunts are ghosts). this experiment has a little "haunt" potential, even if it's only distracted drivers calling 911 to report it. and yes, those would be data points.
1. Re:old story about talking cars.... by tomhath · 2017-09-13 11:17 · Score: 1
  
  Studies have shown that people (especially men) are more likely to listen to a female voice. Even fighter jet pilots get directions from women.
2. Re:old story about talking cars.... by sconeu · 2017-09-13 11:22 · Score: 1
  
  When Chevy tried this in the Astro van, it kept malfunctioning, by saying "Ruh-roh, Reorge! Roor is ropen!!!"
  
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3. Re:old story about talking cars.... by Lordpidey · 2017-09-13 11:47 · Score: 3, Interesting
  
  Female voices tend to come out better after deep compression, that's a big part of the reason why they were used so much in 80s technology, because they were easier to understand.
  
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4. Re:old story about talking cars.... by Chewbacon · 2017-09-13 12:36 · Score: 1
  
  My first car with remote start had pretty good range if you parked strategically. I could start it from inside my building from about 200yds away as long as I had line of sight. Handy on cold mornings. I went out one morning to find a cousin fuckin' redneck wide eyed looking at it. I wished him good morning and started getting in the car and he said "I thought there was a ghost in that car!" He was absolutely serious. People still believe such shit.
  
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5. Re:old story about talking cars.... by Buchenskjoll · 2017-09-13 21:10 · Score: 1
  
  What an adoring jar.
  
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6. Re:old story about talking cars.... by CrimsonAvenger · 2017-09-13 23:13 · Score: 1
  
  Bad joke! Bad!! On the other hand, how many people remember the Jetsons these days?
  
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7. Re:old story about talking cars.... by Imrik · 2017-09-13 23:37 · Score: 1
  
  They later learned that those studies only applied in the US, other countries had to be studied individually to find out what voices got better results in the local culture.
8. Re:old story about talking cars.... by sh00z · 2017-09-14 01:32 · Score: 1
  
  Studies have shown that people (especially men) are more likely to listen to a female voice. Even fighter jet pilots get directions from women.
  Woman with an Australian accent, please. And her name is Gigi.
That is nothing! by 140Mandak262Jamuna · 2017-09-13 11:17 · Score: 4, Funny

Equifax disguised a music major as Chief of Security!

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1. Re:That is nothing! by Anonymous Coward · 2017-09-13 16:03 · Score: 0
  
  Quagmire disguised himself as a seat too, with better results.
2. Re:That is nothing! by Anonymous Coward · 2017-09-14 00:33 · Score: 0
  
  Giggity!
3. Re:That is nothing! by Anonymous Coward · 2017-09-14 01:31 · Score: 1
  
  Its ok though because she's a woman. Women can do anything better than men, even things they have no training in or no understanding of. Anything other than complete agreement is sexist, misogynist, man-splaining, white/male privilege.
4. Re:That is nothing! by Anonymous Coward · 2017-09-14 04:04 · Score: 0
  
  Ain't nothing - Trump is pretending to be the President.
5. Re:That is nothing! by Anonymous Coward · 2017-09-18 04:10 · Score: 0
  
  heyooooo!
This would be a great test by WillAffleckUW · 2017-09-13 11:17 · Score: 1

Just let me get my shotgun, a barrel of whiskey, and we can try it again where you surprise me by having a car drive itself down my rural road.
No guarantees it will return, mind you. Don't truck with ghost cars round these here parts.

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1. Re:This would be a great test by Anonymous Coward · 2017-09-13 11:46 · Score: 0
  
  What the hell is wrong with you?
2. Re: This would be a great test by Fwipp · 2017-09-13 14:10 · Score: 1
  
  I dunno, but hopefully drinking an entire barrel of whiskey is enough to fix it for good.
3. Re:This would be a great test by Obfuscant · 2017-09-13 14:35 · Score: 1
  
  Just let me get my shotgun, a barrel of whiskey, and we can try it again where you surprise me by having a car drive itself down my rural road.
  There are places where cars with flashing lights are regarded as revenuers and shotguns are the standard welcome.
  How nice for Ford to put a car with flashing lights on the road to try distracting other drivers, all in the name of proving how safe AVs are.
Insulting by JThundley · 2017-09-13 11:19 · Score: 3, Funny

This is so insulting. Didn't we all as a society agree that actors in blackface is racist and offensive? Why is putting a man in carface any different?
1. Re:Insulting by Anonymous Coward · 2017-09-13 11:31 · Score: 0
  
  Yes an insult to the Carface race!
2. Re:Insulting by Anonymous Coward · 2017-09-13 12:16 · Score: 0
  
  Seaty McSeatface.
3. Re:Insulting by Anonymous Coward · 2017-09-13 13:55 · Score: 0
  
  I can't believe somebody modded that funny.
4. Re:Insulting by Anonymous Coward · 2017-09-13 21:29 · Score: 0
  
  Clearly the guy is a TRANSit
  Check your priviledge! They should be allowed to present as they feel!
5. Re:Insulting by Anonymous Coward · 2017-09-14 07:43 · Score: 0
  
  "Carface", starring L. Acino.
Re: That outfit would have made a great viral YT v by Anonymous Coward · 2017-09-13 11:21 · Score: 0

You think that's funny, I disguised a seat as a man and drove the car autonomously anyway.
Vaginia "tech" is the ACC... by Anonymous Coward · 2017-09-13 11:22 · Score: 0

so that means they care more about football than academics.
1. Re: Vaginia "tech" is the ACC... by Anonymous Coward · 2017-09-13 11:32 · Score: 0
  
  Yup, those ACC schools like Duke sure prioritize football ahead of academics... oh wait...
2. Re: Vaginia "tech" is the ACC... by Anonymous Coward · 2017-09-13 11:55 · Score: 0
  
  Lul, because Duke is the gold standard for high quality education. Again, lul.
3. Re: Vaginia "tech" is the ACC... by Anonymous Coward · 2017-09-13 12:39 · Score: 0
  
  Or Georgia Tech which is according to some people the best engineering school in the world. Clemson isn't bad either. For the company I work for, more Clemson grads have been promoted in engineering than from any school. My wife works for Boeing, and her boss, her boss's boss, and his boss all graduated from Clemson.
4. Re: Vaginia "tech" is the ACC... by Anonymous Coward · 2017-09-13 12:58 · Score: 0
  
  I work for a highly competitive start-up in Seattle, and out of everyone we hired the first year, the only tech people left are all Clemson grads. We require Seattle Hundreds (16 hours a day Mon-Thu and 12 hours a day Fri-Sun), and they're the only ones that lasted. That school must be hell if they accept our demands. Also, we don't allow tech employees any time off except around Christmas. Lost several coworkers over that. We recruit pretty hard at Clemson, but not many people are willing to move here with our expensive housing. The last person we helped with relocation expenses, and my wife is head of HR so I know this, spent $8k on moving plus the deposit for a one bedroom apartment with first and last month rent. No wonder their grads don't want to move to Seattle.
5. Re: Vaginia "tech" is the ACC... by Anonymous Coward · 2017-09-13 13:01 · Score: 0
  
  I thought they were a basketball conference.
6. Re: Vaginia "tech" is the ACC... by Anonymous Coward · 2017-09-13 13:11 · Score: 0
  
  > Seattle Hundreds
  We recruit heavily from Auburn, NC State, Clemson, Texas A&M, and University of Florida. They put up with our no vacation time and seven day a week work schedules. Those schools must just be hell on students.
7. Re: Vaginia "tech" is the ACC... by Anonymous Coward · 2017-09-13 13:13 · Score: 0
  
  As someone that went to Clemson that had labs most semesters until 9:30pm, you're right. Getting an engineering degree here is more about long hours than smarts.
8. Re: Vaginia "tech" is the ACC... by Anonymous Coward · 2017-09-13 13:20 · Score: 0
  
  We recently awarded two employees that had perfect attendance and hadn't been allowed a single day off. Both graduated from Clemson.
9. Re: Vaginia "tech" is the ACC... by Anonymous Coward · 2017-09-13 13:32 · Score: 0
  
  Same here. It sucked being in labs until after 9pm most Friday nights, but it taught me to put up with a lot of crap. I think that was more valuable than my EE education. I was taught to stay awake in boring lectures which helped me in meetings at work. Paying attention in boring meetings is more important in most companies than competency. Also, most of my classes didn't allow any absences. Again, that is important compared to so many of my coworkers that take vacation time so they're not dependable.
10. Re: Vaginia "tech" is the ACC... by Anonymous Coward · 2017-09-14 02:59 · Score: 0
  
  Taking pride in being a drone for the system and putting down people who value their freedom is kinda sad.
11. Re: Vaginia "tech" is the ACC... by Anonymous Coward · 2017-09-14 04:52 · Score: 0
  
  soooo....you're saying that only Clemson grads are stupid enough, or desperate enough for employment to put up with an unhealthy, gruelling and in my opinion, flatly abusive workplace? 16 hour days back to back don't leave enough time to properly eat, bathe and sleep, one or more of those have to get skimped. 12 hour days Friday, Saturday and Sunday as you describe isn't much better. (That doesn't even include any commuting time!) I've done work weeks like that when I was young and was trying to make ends meet with multiple part time jobs. But only for a month or so, a season tops.
  I'm willing to bet that you aren't paying these new grads an hourly wage either. That's why the unions fought for the over-time laws in the first place, to stop such abusive practices. Routinely having to pay time and a half for an extra 40-60 hrs a week would make NO financial sense, so employers who are faced with having a hundred man-hours worth of work each week have a strong incentive to hire two or three people for that position. No, this is the kind of evilness that HR or CFO officers pull when they realize that salaried people don't have that legal protection and new grads are far more likely to eat whatever shit you serve up for the sake of landing that so-important first resume building job in their field.
12. Re: Vaginia "tech" is the ACC... by Anonymous Coward · 2017-09-14 05:06 · Score: 0
  
  uhm....if they haven't been allowed to take a single day off (your phrasing, not mine) doesn't that mean they shouldn't get the credit for perfect attendance? If I chain a slave to the wall every night and watch him all day, should I praise him for not running away? From the corporate point of view, the person who should be praised is the overseer, oops I mean manager who was able to get that level of industriousness and loyalty from them.
  Besides, what was the award? A cheap Things Engraved plaque and a 100$ Applebees gift card? In my admittedly limited personal experience, perfect attendance awards are for the worker drones and the rewards are commensurate with that lack of status. Actually meaningful or valuable rewards don't really kick in until you hit project manager or similar level position. And at that level, you don't get rewarded for attendance, but coming in under budget, on schedule, controlling headcount and so on. A friend of mine is a civil engineer, project manager on BIG contracts, airports, apartment buildings and so on. His annual bonus usually comes in the form of a free condo. (there is also all the smaller routine perks, access to the corporate box at stadiums and arenas in key cities, free laptops every 9 months, unlimited free travel and expense account etc etc.) I can flat out guarantee that the new civil engineer grads he has out counting rebar prior to pours aren't getting bonuses at the end of the year that amount to 20-30% of their annual earnings even though they are putting in the same level of hours he is.
  Personally; I work to support my wife and kids. They come first. School plays, doctors appointments, parent-teacher conferences and so on will always take a higher priority with me than my attendance at work.
13. Re: Vaginia "tech" is the ACC... by kaatochacha · 2017-09-15 10:06 · Score: 1
  
  If that's standard business practice in Seattle, I wouldn't wanna work there either. That's just idiocy.
Re:That outfit would have made a great viral YT vi by mikael · 2017-09-13 11:30 · Score: 1

http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multi...

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This Halloween by Anonymous Coward · 2017-09-13 11:31 · Score: 0

Now I know what I'll dress up as this Halloween.
Knight Rider by Neo-Rio-101 · 2017-09-13 11:43 · Score: 2

I think I saw this trick done in the Knight Rider TV series from the 1980s
I specifically remember one scene in an early episode where KITT drove itself and came to a park. You can barely make out the hands on the steering wheel before they quickly pulled themselves away - but it wasn't edited out ;)

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1. Re:Knight Rider by antdude · 2017-09-13 14:47 · Score: 1
  
  Ooh, I want to see this. What season and episode? Or maybe a clip online?
  
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2. Re:Knight Rider by Anonymous Coward · 2017-09-14 01:10 · Score: 0
  
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Im4CPtpy8uY
3. Re:Knight Rider by TheCastro1689 · 2017-09-14 02:17 · Score: 1
  
  Watch any episode where KITT has to do some high speed turns or J-turns and you'll see the driver's hands.
Legality? by xlsior · 2017-09-13 11:51 · Score: 1

Isn't it illegal to drive on public roads wearing masks or other things that obscure the drivers field of view? (if not, it should be...)
1. Re:Legality? by SeaFox · 2017-09-13 12:50 · Score: 1
  
  It's only illegal when it's not a large corporation doing it.
2. Re:Legality? by fisted · 2017-09-13 20:46 · Score: 1
  
  Looks roughly equivalent to wearing sunglasses to me, those aren't illegal either.
  
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Earthquake at VaTech...cooincidence? by turkeydance · 2017-09-13 11:54 · Score: 1

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Re:Why a man, not a woman? by lucm · 2017-09-13 12:28 · Score: 0

She would also be putting makeup and texting.

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Re: That outfit would have made a great viral YT v by Anonymous Coward · 2017-09-13 12:30 · Score: 0

would have been way better if they had included a baby mannequin.
That's a heck of a length to go through by Kargan · 2017-09-13 14:51 · Score: 1

Just to try to hide a driver. I bet 95% of the drivers this car passes wouldn't even register a driver or a lack thereof.
Not only are most people just plain not that observant, but what's the difference between this and a car with darkly tinted windows? I can't see the driver of that car, either.

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1. Re:That's a heck of a length to go through by n3r0.m4dski11z · 2017-09-13 15:16 · Score: 1
  
  "what's the difference between this and a car with darkly tinted windows? I can't see the driver of that car, either."
  Well you dont really look twice when you see darkly tinted windows, because everyone knows you cant see through them. So that right there is a different reaction than a driverless car.
  On the other hand at a light, hopefully most people make eye contact with any turning drivers and such, so they dont get run down. So it would surely be an effective test if people noticed it in the situations where they would normally. I mean thats the point im sure. They did put a giant flashing light bar "positioned roughly where a driverâ(TM)s eye line would be, to try to catch the attention of those around it who would look in its direction."
  
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2. Re:That's a heck of a length to go through by tlhIngan · 2017-09-14 05:12 · Score: 1
  
  On the other hand at a light, hopefully most people make eye contact with any turning drivers and such, so they dont get run down. So it would surely be an effective test if people noticed it in the situations where they would normally. I mean thats the point im sure. They did put a giant flashing light bar "positioned roughly where a driverÃ(TM)s eye line would be, to try to catch the attention of those around it who would look in its direction."
  That was the point of Ford's research - how much information do people on the road and street derive from being able to see the driver and communicate visually. We always assumed it was a lot (you're asked to look at the driver before stepping on the street, for example, to ensure you can see him and see his intentions).
  Of course, these days it's probably a lot less, as everyone is glued to their smartphone's screen anyhow to look at a driver and just blindly cross the road.
  It's an important bit of work - do autonomous cars need a way to signal intention to pedestrians and other vehicles other than what a standard car provides? Assuming predictability - like a car that slows down sees you wanting to cross the street and will continue to slow down and stop, versus when you step onto the road it then squeals its tires and floors it just to annoy you.
  So far, it appears that Ford discovered seeing a driver isn't important at all.
Voice Synthesis by JBMcB · 2017-09-13 15:34 · Score: 2

There was study done by the US Navy or Air Force in the 80's to see what kind of voice would work best for warning fighter pilots of various things. Higher pitched voices cut through cockpit noise and other distractions better than others, so they used women to record the warning signals.
I think the overall theme is that higher pitched voices cut through noise floor better than lower pitched voices.

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1. Re:Voice Synthesis by Anonymous Coward · 2017-09-14 04:36 · Score: 0
  
  Those were almost universally called "bitchin' Betty" by the pilots who had those systems inflicted on them. They are almost as universally hated as well. The biggest complaint from the pilots seemed to be that bitchin' Betty frequently told the pilots (in annoying triplicate no less) information that the pilots already knew. e.g. "I *know* I'm too low, for ^%$# sakes!, I'm doing a strafing run you stupid ^%$@ tin box!"
  I've heard anecdotally that Canadian CF-18 pilots had no way of muting it or of adjusting the level of warnings provided. The only way to shut it off was if it suffered a malfunction. The boxes would conveniently "blow a fuse" while in the air, or the mounted box would suffer "impact damage" from "loose items in the cockpit", (a pilots boot) while the aircraft was engaged in hard manoeuvring.
2. Re:Voice Synthesis by hawkfish · 2017-09-15 02:53 · Score: 1
  
  There was study done by the US Navy or Air Force in the 80's to see what kind of voice would work best for warning fighter pilots of various things. Higher pitched voices cut through cockpit noise and other distractions better than others, so they used women to record the warning signals.
  I think the overall theme is that higher pitched voices cut through noise floor better than lower pitched voices.
  This was known back in the 1960s. This is why the Star Trek ship's computer had a female voice.
  
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Re:That outfit would have made a great viral YT vi by viperidaenz · 2017-09-13 15:38 · Score: 1

The VW trailer assist video was pretty good
https://www.youtube.com/watch?...
Street Outlaws by Sooner+Boomer · 2017-09-13 16:34 · Score: 1

They did this on Street Outlaws. Farmtruck and AZN bought a Hearse and hollowed out the seats so it looked like no one was driving. They got pulled over by Okla. City cops who had no sense of humor at all.

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It's been done before by Casandro · 2017-09-13 17:55 · Score: 1

Back in the 1980s Austrian television channel ORF1 showed a TV show about a guy with a talking car solving crimes. It was called "Knight Rider".
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-TL6J...
Also note the size of that huge thumb on the left side.
1. Re:It's been done before by Anonymous Coward · 2017-09-13 18:55 · Score: 0
  
  ... size of that huge thumb ...
  
  It's a photo of a (hand-held) photograph.
  The back-seat from 'Herbie goes to Monte Carlo' (1963).
The KITT stunt did this all the time by davidone · 2017-09-13 18:26 · Score: 1

Hello! The 80's are calling, they say this is old news!
http://www.neatorama.com/2011/...
https://geeks.media/knight-rid...
Somebody filmed this by thisisauniqueid · 2017-09-13 21:07 · Score: 1

Somebody noticed this and filmed it.
Great by DontBeAMoran · 2017-09-14 00:26 · Score: 1

The Transit Connect van used for the trial would indicate its behavior using signals including a slow white pulse for yielding, a rapid blinking for accelerating from a stop, and staying solid if it's actively in self-driving mode.
So their future truly-self-driving cars will cause accidents by causing seizures in the epileptic drivers around them.

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1. Re:Great by cyberchondriac · 2017-09-14 02:42 · Score: 1
  
  Besides that, how are drivers supposed to know what those arbitrary signals mean? That's not on any standard driver's test.
  Even by watching and matching the car's behavior to the lights, that could take a number of instances before the correlation is perfectly clear.
  
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Re:That outfit would have made a great viral YT vi by gmack · 2017-09-14 02:25 · Score: 1

Been done before but the Ford setup is much more convincing.
Don't know about that. Toyota's was pretty good.