Google Unveils Pixel 2 and Pixel 2 XL With No Headphone Jack (venturebeat.com)
From a report: Google product chief Mario Queiroz today unveiled two new Android 8.1 Oreo smartphones at the company's annual hardware event: the Pixel 2 and the Pixel 2 XL. The smaller Pixel 2 sports a 5-inch, 1080p display, with a 16:9 aspect ratio that was until this year the standard on Android flagships. The larger Pixel 2 XL, meanwhile, has a 6-inch, QHD+ display in an 18:9 aspect ratio, in line with 2017's flagship smartphones. The Pixel 2 thus still has a large bezel while the Pixel XL 2 has a noticeably reduced bezel profile, although certainly not the smallest we've seen. As always, smartphone size also dictates battery capacity: 2700 mAh for the Pixel 2 and 3520 mAh for the Pixel 2 XL. Here's the rundown: Snapdragon 835 chipset, 4GB of RAM, either 64GB or 128GB of storage, an 8-megapixel front-facing camera, a 12-megapixel rear camera, front stereo speakers, a fingerprint scanner on the back, a USB-C port on the bottom, and no headphone jack. "Use your existing analog headphones with the included adapter," Queiroz said. [...] The HTC-manufactured Pixel 2 will be available in Just Black, Clearly White, and Kinda Blue on October 19. The LG-manufactured Pixel 2 XL will ship in Just Black and Black & White on November 15. The Pixel 2 will be available for $649 (64GB) and $749 (128GB) while the Pixel 2 XL will come in $849 (64GB) and $949 (128GB) flavors.
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"You dont need SD cards, put it all in the cloud! Oh by the way, data is $10/GB"
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I didn't want to listen to reliably music anyways.
Do they have an ugly notch at the top of the screen as well?
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In the beginning I really thought I would be bothered by the next gen Pixel not having a headphone jack, but all my connected devices are bluetooth (Bose and Jabbra). I currently own the Pixel XL and I haven't used the headphone jack once since i picked it up.
Google, please, we need AFFORDABLE Android phones! And by "affordable" we don't mean trashy third-world shit phones, either.
All we want is the next generation of what the Nexus 4 and Nexus 5 phones were. Give us reasonably sized phones that have reasonably good displays and reasonably good performance with reasonably good cameras and with reasonably good quality at a reasonably good price.
We don't need top-end everything, but nor do we want bottom-end shit, either. Give us a good middle-of-the-road phone.
It's not even really about finding the money. Many of us can come up with $700 without any problem. The problem is that we don't want to drop that much money on a top-end phone. We'd rather spend $300 to $400, and get something in the middle. The problem is that we don't find anything like that these days, when in the past we did with the Nexus 4 and Nexus 5 phones.
It's dumb to pay $700 or even $1000 for a phone that can be so easily damaged or lost, or worse, become artificially "obsolete" after only 3 years.
Google, give us something like the Nexus 4 and the Nexus 5 were!
I didn't want to listen to reliably music anyways.
Like Apple, wired is still an option with Google using an included adapter.
Music while working in the garage, plug into the stereo.
Music on the train, plug in the cheap headphones that never need an adaptor, or a charge.
Break my headphones on the road, pick up a cheap replacement set anywhere.
Nope, I am not ready to give up the headphone jack for something worse.
First law of people: People are generally stupid.
Don't regret buying a Note 8 based on those stats.
Given that the original Pixel is absolutely horrible at playing back music via Bluetooth I'd call this a pretty ballsy move. Google doesn't appear to have any idea how to fix the problem on the Pixel either. Mine will start skipping during music so bad you'd think I was listening to a CD player in 1994 going down a gravel road.
Use your existing analog headphones with the included adapter ...
Which is a separate Bluetooth-enabled feature phone, with a headphone jack.
It must have been something you assimilated. . . .
No. Android users aren't really counterparts to Apple users. If it was Apple, Android, or some other name, I couldn't care less. All it is is cost/functionality. Brand identity, style points, and hipster trendiness doesn't factor in, one way or the other. This camp vs. that camp is the wrong way to look at it. We're even more different than Apple fanboys than you think.
In debates about Christianity, there are two groups: those looking for answers, and those looking to just ask questions.
For a device that starts at $600+, I expect a minimum of 6GB RAM. You get 4GB in devices in the $200 ballpark. Plus, these Pixel phones do not take SD cards. Thanks but, no, thanks.
The lack of a headphone jack gets all the attention. I think Google left off the headphone jack as a distraction. The real story is that Clips camera. It decides when to take pictures of what is "interesting"? How is that done? Does everything potentially interesting get streamed to the mother ship so that Google's algorithm can determine if it is "interesting" or not? And what exactly is the definition of "interesting"?
Maybe Google has two different "interesting" filters. One that the consumer sees the results of. And one that Google privately keeps the results of.
But not to worry. It's all okay. Google says it's not evil. And you can trust Google to tell you the truth. Because Google is not evil. I know Google is not evil because Google says so. And I can trust Google's statement because Google is not evil.
I'll see your senator, and I'll raise you two judges.
...Even with a 10ft pole.
And that because of one reason: The lack of that 3.5mm headphone jack.
and $15-$20/meg roaming!
Even my flip phone had a screen with more than 2 pixels. I don't care if they are XL sized pixels. You can;t even write an ascii charcter with that. let me know when they reach VGA quality
Some drink at the fountain of knowledge. Others just gargle.
Google unveils $159 Pixel Buds, its answer to Apple AirPods
How did I already know that?
They'd have to include a sleeve that includes the jack in a more proper place, or sell it at nominal cost.
"Forget the engineers." -Carly Fiorina, briber of MIT Technology Review.
So there's a bit of background first.
Have you noticed that Apple has stopped trying to remove all of the Google related things from them? Apple made their version of a map app, started poorly but got better and ultimately didn't matter. Google was and remains so far ahead that catching up isn't feasible w/o expending a supreme amount of resources. It didn't matter what Apple tried. Unverifying the app only alienated their customer base. Dropping it from the store only saw articles on how to sideload it proliferate. And making it run poorly in the native web browser saw Chrome for iOS get downloaded more. Apple lost that battle.
This resulted in a shift of strategy for Android. No longer did Google need it to run everywhere in order for people to get a taste, it now needed to run well. At first, Google tried to get manufacturers on board with this plan. High-end, premium experience phones were pushed. However, Google ran face first into the carrier profit centers, something the handset makers were already well aligned with. Google could care less how often you switch and I would guess they'd rather you'd keep the same phone for several years since it makes it all the easier to track and data-mine you. But the carriers and handset makers are not Google. Not yet, anyways.
So instead of backing off, Google went whole hog. As a company they only want the best experience for much the same reason as Apple does. It makes them look good. It makes people want to stick around.
Having a mid-price phone is the choice of people without the same sort of brand loyalty they're looking to groom. Yes, groom is the correct term here. Right now, Google is all about creating a digital monopoly. To get there, they need people to stick with them and keep sticking with them well past the point it makes sense to.
If you're looking for options, look elsewhere. The smartphones are heading for stagnation.
I've used Android for all of my smartphones. I've used the Nexus series for a very long time and been very happy with them. With the Pixel 2 being the successor to the Nexus line, it looks like I'll be finding a different make since this is BS on the part of Google to take away a port I use nearly every day. They don't need my money apparently.
How's that for the Android fanboy apologist?
Apple is going to make money on forced accessories, what on fucking planet earth is motivation for google????
As a longtime Android user: No. Screw Google and their terrible decision-making. It was a mistake when Apple removed their headphone jack, and it's a mistake now that Google's doing the same. They couldn't even copy Apple and re-add wireless charging to their new $700 phone, even though my old Nexus 5 ($100 new, last I checked) supports it.
Google is turning into Apple, and I hate it.
... make one that magnetically docks onto the phone (ergonomically, not like the Apple Pencil shit that sticks out of the device by several inches), and which charges whenever the phone itself is being charged so that I never have to worry about charging the earpiece separately.
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Anyone try to listen to Bluetooth headphones in a crowded place?
My BT headphones will start chopping sometimes in subway or at crowded intersections. I'm assuming the airwaves will get more and more saturated as adoption increases.
Must be nice in spacious region of Silicon Valley, but us urbanites will be first to actually suffer.
Sorry, but Apple Maps is superior to Google Maps now, and has been for a while. I'm curious in what way you consider it to be way beyond what Apple offers...
Apple Maps is more readable, and still give better directions (though Google has tried to keep up there).
The only area Google still leads in is Street View, but that's not as necessary as good directions.
However you are right that Apple is still working happily with Google in some areas still - especially search.
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
I still love Android. Of course, I use Samsung and they still have headphone jacks. No need for me to ever consider a Pixel 2. See, that's the advantage of Android - actual CHOICE about features, not just "which color and what size" like you get with Apple! If choice is confusing to you, then by all means live with an Apple product, but if you want to actually have a choice from dozens of manufacturers of a few hundred models - Android works nicely.
Browsing at +1 - no ACs, I ignore their posts. So refreshing!
Did you feel the same way about 3.5inch floppy disks? Honestly, the 3.5mm headset jack standard is silly when you are trying to efficiently power headsets(if you don't care about power efficiency it's a fine standard).
The amp soldered into your Nexus5 won't drive most high-impedance headsets, but if you move the amp from your phone into the headset you not only eliminate a bunch of headaches when buying equipment, but you also improve sound quality and power efficiency. http://archimago.blogspot.com/...
Does it make sense to buy the Pixel 1 XL 128GB now that it has come down in price? It still comes with the headphone jack and Google's OS updates. The Pixel 2's lack of headphone jack is a no-go for me. The USB-C headphone adapter is too fragile. Hunting for good sounding Bluetooth earbuds is unappealing to me (plus expensive, plus the battery charging and relatively quick failure..).
What I don't get is the emphasis on the Google Assistant. Always available, even when the phone is locked.
Does anyone care? I have never heard anyone using it. It's one of the first things I disable. Why is this supposed to be a feature?
Enjoy life! This is not a dress rehearsal.
As I've said before, it did take Courage take take on all the initial Nerd Rage generated by removing an ancient obsolete port that the Nerd Hipsters all love and want to keep forever.
Even when we are beings of pure energy they will manifest a physical ear and one audio jack specifically so they can use a wired headset and feel superior.
It has nothing to do with "nerd rage" and everything to do with usability. I have multiple pairs of headphones that I often use (work, office, bedroom, etc), plus I regularly plug my phone into various line-level inputs. The lack of a 1/8" jack means I would either have to 1) always carry a dongle around with my phone or 2) keep a dongle with every device I *might* connect to.
Audio exists outside the realm of cell phones, and analog audio isn't going anywhere. Removal of built-in analog out on phones is a definite hindrance.
Apple Maps is entirely useless. The map data they have is old and incomplete.
So does Google Maps depending on where you are.
There is no way to submit updated information for this, so the bad maps just persist.
Totally false, you can submit feedback about a location to Apple through Apple Maps. But unlike Google, they actually fix issues - usually within a few days, for the errors I have reported to date. I never ever heard from Google and errors never got fixed so I stopped submitting corrections.
Apple only just (last month!) added lane data to their maps. So far the only times I've triggered it, it was wrong. The majority of times it just doesn't display any lane data whatsoever.
Not sure where you live but I seem to remember having lane data for some time, and I've driven across much of the U.S.
Google Maps remains the gold standard for phone-based maps. Period.
I have it loaded on my iPhone but since Apple Maps has been better in every case I've tried, I just keep using it. "Gold standard", I do not think that term means what you think it does.
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Seems like you don't know who the nerd hipsters are, or you're just disingenuously projecting. Perhaps you've been called one too much for being too willing to accept whatever your tech fashion overlords dictate? If the former, here's a clue: nerd hipsters are the ones who will not hesitate to throw out what still works because the next version is out, and will spend hundreds on a record player that only has USB-C out because they are "cool" right now.
People want a headphone jack because their headphones and PC speakers, which they like and which still work, can connect to their PC, their music player, other mobile devices, their car (AUX IN) and everything else with speakers. Furthermore, almost none of said speaker-having things have a USB-C port at all. Replacing everything to suit one new thing is grossly impractical. A complacent "dongle here dongle there" attitude quickly turns into needing to bring a bag around for everything which is also grossly impractical. USB-C ain't so universal.
Even when every type of device has a USB-C port and not a headphone jack, suddenly every old pair of headphones is relegated to the landfill or requires the production of even more unnecessary and otherwise useless dongles which would double what gets added to landfills later.
Then you have the unpleasant DRM/"smart" aspect of USB-C which definitely won't be used against the public when head office/government decides pirated or politically unpleasant content just won't play.
And lastly you have the problem of it being the only port on the device, meaning you can't multi-task without yet another dongle.
I don't know why I'm bothering to reply though. Morons refuse to listen to reason.
They already exist. In fact, I don't know why the marketing department decide to sell it as "killing off the 3.5 mm jack" when "the jack is moving to a common accessory" would have prevented most complaints/arguments.
If there were two usb-c/lightening ports, then that would be almost fine.
But there's only one. So as with the iPhone, if you want to charge and listen at the same time with the accessories available the last time I went into an Apple store, you need two accessories. A port doubler (two lightenings in the case of apple) and a 3.5 jack adaptor. This is a major mess compared to what went before which was one port for charging and a jack for listening. I have yet to see a usb-c 3.5 jack+charging adaptor in any store.
So I have a decent job, I can afford whatever phone I want and I travel on planes. I've already hit the dongle hell on my last transatlantic trip with an iPhone7+. The headphone jack has become a buy/no-buy issue for me through direct experience of living without one.
Any change in marketing verbiage wouldn't alter this.
I should use this sig to advertise my book ISBN-13 : 978-1501515132.
All of which can use a simple, and included (or extremely cheap), adaptor...
Easy enough if you only ever connect to one device. Not so easy if you connect to multiple devices, especially when they aren't yours, at your home, etc. In such cases, buying a dongle for each device is not only not feasible, it's impossible. Which leads back to carrying a dongle everywhere.
That dongles for Apple and Android devices are not interchangeable only adds to the problem.
I still prefer not to have to charge my damn headphones when I want to use them.
Why would you expect this?
Dropping the headphone jack wasn't bad because Apple did it. It's bad because it degrades functionality.
Google doing the same thing doesn't make it any better.
I'll be absolutely thrilled to see the headphone jack go when there's a better alternative to it. The problem is that right now, there isn't.
All of which can use a simple, and included (or extremely cheap), adaptor...
Using an adapter isn't a good alternative. It would qualify as "better than nothing", I suppose, but it's still a downgrade.
Did you feel the same way about 3.5inch floppy disks?
No, because 3.5 inch disks were actually an improvement.
if you move the amp from your phone into the headset you not only eliminate a bunch of headaches when buying equipment, but you also improve sound quality and power efficiency.
So where are these better-sounding bluetooth earbuds? I've tried out a bunch of them, and even the best that I've tried sound worse than the best wired earbuds.
when "the jack is moving to a common accessory" would have prevented most complaints/arguments.
Maybe it would, but in my view, this is the same as "killing off the headphone jack". I don't use a case, and don't want a case. I think even a dongle would be less objectionable than being forced to use a case.
Why does any sort of physical contact have to be part of the equation? Wireless charging has been a thing for several years at this point.
There have been technologies which charge bluetooth devices wirelessly from several feet away demonstrated at CES in 2015.
There are even people working on AA batteries which charge wirelessly.
Even Apple is on the wireless charging bandwagon, including their AirPods which charge wirelessly.
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Just leave the conversation if you're not going to make sense. I'm guessing you meant USB was the improvement.
I thought that the comment "Did you feel the same way about 3.5inch floppy disks?" was saying "Were you pissed off about 3.5 inch disks because it meant 5.25 inch disks were going away?"
The lack of a 1/8" jack means I would either have to 1) always carry a dongle around with my phone or 2) keep a dongle with every device I *might* connect to.
Or option 3 (which can be mixed with options 1 and 2): switch to wireless. All of the stereos in my house have Chromecast Audio devices connected to them. That cost a few bucks, but it's very nice. Not only can I play music on any one of them, I have also set up a few different groups of devices. And I can do it without having to plug or unplug anything, in fact I usually do it just with my voice, without even bothering to pick up my phone. "OK Google, play <artist / album/ genre / song / whatever> on home group" starts playing throughout the entire house.
I normally use bluetooth headphones anwyay, so that's no big deal. I have one set of high-end Sennheiser over-the-ear headphones that uses the 3.5mm jack, and I also use the audio jack in my car (my truck has BT), so I'll probably buy a pair of dongles to attach to those.
Note that I'm not saying this is the right solution for everyone. The Chromecast Audio costs $35 from Google, $27 from Wal-mart, so buying a half dozen of them costs a little money. And lots of BT audio devices suck (BT audio does not inherently suck, BTW, it depends on the codecs used, which are negotiated between phone and headphone/speaker/whatever). But you can get good ones.
Note that I've been using a Pixel 2 XL as my daily driver (I work for Google, on Android) for about three months now, so I've been dealing with the reality of this problem. It hasn't actually been much of a problem. I already had the Chromecasts.
I'd say that if you're going to buy one of these phones, you're already looking at spending $700-$900 on the device, so you should just plan on spending another hundred or so on the "audio problem". Add that to the purchase price when you decide whether to buy.
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Here are the more use cases for which an incompatible headphone port or additional peripheral are not appropriate:
Teenagers who regularly break, lose, and launder things.
People who use their phones hands free while commuting by mode other than car.
People who use their phones while engaged in a mobile task (e.g. jogging, cleaning).
People who routinely carry more than one device from different manufacturers (e.g. phone and laptop, one of which may be work or school issue).
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Now let's see what the "world" will decide about the missing features.
Irrelevant news and morons using moderation to mod down what they disagree on. 2018 resolution: so long.
The magnetic docking would be a nice-to-have for when the earpiece is not being used, but it is conveniently available whenever needed, and by virtue of its physical contact would be less likely to get lost,
File under 'M' for 'Manic ranting'
My daughter didn't want a Galaxy S8 (when Dad was buying her one for free after she dropped her phone), she wanted a Pixel. But once she heard that it didn't have a headphone jack, it was dead to her.
Peter predicted that you would "deliberately forget" creation 2000 years ago...
Why kill headphone jacks? They worked beautiful, there's a colossal range of existing hardware on the market. Making it wireless means additional power considerations for the wireless headphones. .
This is like saying "Windscreens have been transparent for way too long, so the future is 'opaque'". It gives it a futuristic feel. Yes, you do lose some basic features - but we feel this will be better in the long term. Just cus.
I'd say that if you're going to buy one of these phones, you're already looking at spending $700-$900 on the device, so you should just plan on spending another hundred or so on the "audio problem". Add that to the purchase price when you decide whether to buy.
The additional cost is annoying, but the main issue is still having to deal with adapters where they otherwise wouldn't be necessary. 1/8" plugs and jacks are ubiquitous. Lightning and USB-C, not so much. I use Bluetooth for certain things, but there are applications where it isn't a reasonable solution.
a use case that does not apply to 99.9999999999999999999999999999999% of the population
I assure you there are more than three people in the US who plug their phones in to multiple audio outputs, and would thus be inconvenienced by the lack of a headphone jack.
I'd say that if you're going to buy one of these phones, you're already looking at spending $700-$900 on the device, so you should just plan on spending another hundred or so on the "audio problem". Add that to the purchase price when you decide whether to buy.
The additional cost is annoying, but the main issue is still having to deal with adapters where they otherwise wouldn't be necessary. 1/8" plugs and jacks are ubiquitous. Lightning and USB-C, not so much. I use Bluetooth for certain things, but there are applications where it isn't a reasonable solution.
Well, my experience is that it hasn't been a big problem for me. YMMV, of course.
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All of which can use a simple, and included (or extremely cheap), adaptor...
You didn't even read the post to which you are replying, angry-hipster-who-calls-others-angry-hipsters.
"Use your existing headphones with the included adapter."
Oh. Unless you want to use your existing headphones and charge your phone at the same time. Sorry (not sorry).
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The amp/dac for low-impedance headsets are dirt cheap, if you just want to convert all your current headphones that already work on cellphones to USB-C you can find adapters for a couple dollars. https://www.amazon.com/Headpho...
The 3.5mm headset jack is more efficient for most headsets available on the market.
No, the current analog headsets are generally less efficient(their efficiency greatly changes depending on what headset is hooked to what source). Audio Device Class 3.0 (ADC 3.0) headsets use less power since the ADC/DAC is balanced to the microphone/speaker and not just specced to some rate so that most speakers work-ish. http://gadgets.ndtv.com/mobile...
You can buy cheap, power efficient USB-C headphones if you want($5). You can buy Noise-Cancelling USB-C headphones if you want(they don't need batteries like 3.5mm versions). Currently the only headphones that use ADC3.0 "hotword detection" are bluetooth(Google and Apple's earbuds). If you use things like "Hey Siri" or "OK Google", then the power savings are potentially huge with "hotword detection" happening on the earpiece.
Back when the original iMac was released it was unclear what was going to supplant 1.44MB 3.5" floppies(or if Apple had just made a stupid mistake). CD-RWs were the obvious choice, but competing formats were annoying. USB Flash drives were expensive and slow. Many people just got USB Floppy adapters. The arguments against not having 3.5mm jacks on phones are extremely similar to the arguments against not having 3.5inch floppy drives on computers.
I have all these (reformatted AOL disks)/(cheap earbuds) I use to (store files)/(listen to stuff). I don't care if supporting the old standard means you have to make clunky devices, I want to use my old crap to work with the new devices!
You might be living in a household with another adult and multiple kids. AirPods or EarBuds or whatever are like a $700 investment at this point. Now, if someone needs to listen to stuff on a phone without disturbing others, what are the chances of them being able to find their own headphones or re-pair others to a correct cell phone?
Of course designers of these products have never left the basement and so are not aware of the problems...
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Perhaps you are expecting too much from your smart device?
There has already been the debate about whether the camera is as good as a DLSR (it's not) but either way, your phone camera is good enough for most people. I have a DLSR but I've taken more pictures with my phone cams in the last 5 years than I have in my whole life.
It's the same with audio on the move - sure you can get better quality from 3.5mm but using an adapter is as good for most people and using bluetooth is acceptable for the rest. It might be appreciably better with BT 5.0 (or the same, but not likely worse).
If you use your phone for audio at home you are not much of an audiophile or you haven't invested in the appropriate equipment to which you wish to fling your audio stream.
New technology will always replace old and there will always be that point in time when it is difficult to let go. Now is that time for the 3.5mm socket. In a couple of years time we might be lamenting the demise of the fingerprint sensor over face recognition...
I have an Alcatel with an enabled FM radio chip. The audio jack is used for an antenna, usually provided by the wire on the earbuds/headphones you have plugged in. However I can also use an male-male standard audio cable in the jack as an antenna while directing the audio stream to a Bluetooth speaker.
So the removal of the audio jack removes this radio functionality as well as all of the other uses that have been noted.
Perhaps you are expecting too much from your smart device?
Is expecting that they will perform as well as older models expecting too much?
If you use your phone for audio at home
I don't. I have a real sound system for home use. (And I'm not an audiophile.)
Now is that time for the 3.5mm socket.
Not yet, it's not. Most smartphones still have them, and they will likely be available for a few years yet. If they aren't available when the time comes to replace my phone, and if nobody's come up with a system that can adequately replace the jack, then I'll have to start carrying a separate device for music. It just seems wrong that we'd have to go back to how we we did things a decade ago and start carrying multiple devices.
In a couple of years time we might be lamenting the demise of the fingerprint sensor over face recognition...
I won't, because those features aren't appealing to me in the first place and I don't use them.
3.5" and 5.25" floppies came out in the early 80s at about the same time.
Umm, no. 5.25 inch floppies were around for years before 3.5 inch. 5.25 hit the market in 1976, 3.5 in the early '80s.
Yeah! While I hate the loss of the 3.5mm jack, it looks like that is the way of the future and it is not the end of the world since more and more BT headphones are available and quality is getting good (but prices stratospheric). It is still bad for the other types of accessories like card readers and other gadgets that have no BT equivalent. However, I really applaud the front facing stereo speakers because when you have lousy sound like all Apple products (and I know, I have an iPad with beautiful video but terrible sound due to the side facing speakers), there is no fix for it other than yet another accessory.
Yeah, they are pretty hideous. Personally, though, that doesn't matter much to me.
So what? I have a basement full of devices and connectors that aren't compatible with anything anymore, and you don't see me crying about it like a baby. Technology progresses and the world moves on. You'd better get used to it because this is going to keep happening every 5-10 years for the rest of time.
So what? I have a basement full of devices and connectors that aren't compatible with anything anymore, and you don't see me crying about it like a baby. Technology progresses and the world moves on. You'd better get used to it because this is going to keep happening every 5-10 years for the rest of time.
It's not an issue of technology progressing and moving on. Headphones and AUX inputs exist beyond the world of cell phones and aren't going anywhere. 1/8" connectors have been in use for over 60 years, and the larger 1/4" connectors have been in use since the 19th century. There's no technological progression that makes those connectors obsolete.
Wrong, it is objectively BETTER because Apple Maps can get you out of a subway stop through the correct exit (which I used to great effect in NYC), which Google Maps absolutely cannot do. The iPhone integration is nice but that only means it's the default for apps that do not provide Google Maps support, which many do... there's nothing stopping my from using Google Maps on an iPhone just as conveniently as Apple Maps, I use Apple Maps not because of the integration but because after many tries of both pole Maps is simply better in all regards.
By the way to report a road closed or changed or new, you can simply long-press to drop a point of interest anywhere on the map, select "report an issue" at the very bottom of the scroll area, then select "other" to mention the road is closed or changed or new. Not that hard dude.
Possibly Google has improved update speed but I am HIGHLY doubtful, I've updated several things in Apple Maps with good results whereas like I said I had submitted a number of things to Google Maps in the past with zero feedback or changes after days.
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