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Windows 10 Update Removes Windows Media Player (betanews.com)
Recently made available Windows 10 update KB4046355 for the Fall Creators Update disables Windows Media Player from the operating system. BetaNews reports: While it could be argued that Windows Media Player is no longer an essential addition to Windows -- there are plenty of quality third-party alternatives, such as VLC Media Player, not to mention the Films & TV app in Windows 10 itself -- many users still rely on it. The feature's removal came to light when users installed KB4046355 on devices running Windows 10 version 1709 -- the Fall Creators Update. This update, referred to as FeatureOnDemandMediaPlayer, removes Windows Media Player from the OS, although it doesn't kill access to it entirely. If you want the media player back you can install it via the Add a Feature setting. Open Settings, go to Apps > Apps & Features, and click on Manage optional features.
Explain to me WHY this is a useful program?
...While it could be argued that Windows Media Player is no longer an essential addition to Windows...
It could also be argued that the Windows 10 data harvesting is not an essential addition to Windows. Yet there it remains....
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Makes one wonder what the real reason is for removing Media Player.
Media Player Classic is the solution.
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It's a shell linking audio/video codecs (which still exist) to a simple set of video controls, perhaps with some mostly useless cruft, but it did a decent job.
It definitely wasn't anywhere near the best player - but when you went to a random PC, you could be sure that most common videos would play.
Why would you remove that as a minimal component on PCs? Browsers are OK - but when you're going for a presentation on a random PC, there's all kinds of ways those can crap out in ways that a simple default video player would be fine.
Seems a very dumb thing to remove, if you want PCs to be useful general devices world-wide.
And note - probably less than 2% of your user base is going to go onto the 'Windows Store' to try and get ANYTHING to fix this shortcoming. Attempting to profit from your own manufactured problem is not going to pay off in this case, compared to what it's costing you in terms of basic capability.
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Does anyone remember there was a Windows Multi Media Edition? One had to buy a Soundblaster card to get sound out of the box previously and HP keyboards had play/pause/volume controls on the keyboard ...
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If I have to choose between Windows 10 "spyware edition" or Linux with systemd, I still go for Linux. Thank you.
I like WMP better than Groove, because it doesn't have the obnoxious marketing thing going, though I've switched mostly to musicbee.
Though as bad as Groove is, it's better than the pinnacle of incompetent design that is iTunes.
These feature removals mostly seem troublesome at a locked down PC environment at school or work where you can't install anything. So while not disastrous, it is certainly annoying when you can't do some trivial thing on a computer without admin rights on it.
I stuck with WMP (when using windows) because it plays music and rips to mp3. I don't need it to do more. The windows 10 replacement was a nightmare because it consumes the whole screen in some tablet-mode nonsense.
I could use any of many media players, but I don't really care. Being familiar with where the play button is and how to get to the playlists is handy.
It's not a function of age, it's a function of not giving a shit.
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It's a dead project now unless someone picks it up.
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When Microsoft tricked Windows 7 and Windows 8 users into installing Windows 10, Microsoft removed Windows Media Center, also: Microsoft kills off Windows Media Center.
More about Microsoft's abusive management: Microsoft's history is filled with abuse.
Given that you can add Windows Media Player back in, then title of this story is incorrect.
WMP has not been removed, it's been made a non-default application ("Feature on Demand"). You can still add it back in fairly easily.
Maybe Microsoft is planning on completely removing it in the long term, but they haven't removed it yet.
It's still annoying. Users still use WMP and this is likely to cause a lot of confusion.
So? It does what it's supposed to even though it's a dead project.
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Nobody is talking about a default install you shill.
They did this to already installed OSes.
VLC....but I'm sure your typical "mom & pop" that use a computer how it comes out of the box might, but if they are on 10, did it even come with WMP?
How about some BSD?
Circumcision is child abuse.
There's nothing wrong with Windows 8, as long as you install ClassicShell and disable all the Metro crap.
Yep. Seattle law? Probably a lawyer for MS.
Have you really had issues with systemd or even pulseaudio or network manager?
I installed debian on my samsung laptop and it worked without mesing with any files. I have never had it fail to boot. I have it on my raspberry pi as well running homeassistant also on debian.
I haven't had windows 10 fail to boot either, just saying I hear the systemd complaint allot but I really don't think it's an issue for most home users. Maybe it messes on the enterprise level, but your post is clearly talking about home users.
How do you justify MS removing an application from an already installed Windows system? They shouldn't have to add it back if it was already there to begin with!
More likely it didn't have the "telemetry" that the newer app does
Can you maybe spend 5 minutes to help them reinstall it then? Microsoft just wants the default packages to be consistent across the non-x86 version of Windows. I can't fault them for that, but I still think that Paint 3D is an abomination.
They already replaced that with a modern UI version. With WMP, they just renamed the replacement.
There's nothing wrong with Windows 8, as long as you turn it into Windows 7.
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As useless as media player is, does this mean no one will be able to access files on their android devices over USB anymore due to no MTP support? Because Windows 7 can't do it on versions lacking the media pack...
WMP has not been removed, it's been made a non-default application
That would be the case in a fresh install, but not when you update to this build.
Depends on your applications, obviously. It fucking sucks that if you want an alternative, you have to really work at it and there's always some use case that you just can't get around. That said, win8 is probably the least worst option if you're stuck with Windows.
If your objection to win8 is the UI stupidity, you can fix a large amount of the stupid with ClassicShell and some time tweaking settings. Not all of it, but it's a good start. As a bonus, with win8 it's not that rough fixing the spyware issues, doesn't even require third-party tools. Does require hitting up services and task scheduler and some time reading, and of course you have to re-check everything after every round with windows update, but it can be managed.
If you have some other issue with win8, discuss?
Win7 is getting a bit long in the tooth and hit and miss for being able to get support on some newer hardware. It it's not dead yet, but ...
Personally, it's been easier to just move over to Linux for general use. Slackware here, as it's where I started back in '93. No systemd, and not happening any time soon. Gnome got dropped a long time ago, though libraries are available as needed and last I looked there were two different third-party options for a complete gnome desktop install. Slackware has been infected by Pulse, but since Pulse is no longer Lennart's chew-toy, it's had a chance to get straightened out and by now is usually more help than hindrance. I will say fuck NetworkManager with a rusty spoon. It's not as much of a flaming pile of radioactive dogshit as it used to be, but it still finds new and interesting ways to fall down. Generally I don't install it on non-mobile systems, as it's slightly less of a pain than editing rc files when swapping AP's on wifi.
Hackintosh is a viable option if you do your research and get well-supported hardware up front. Pay less in cash, pay more in time, and really not appropriate at the office. Oy, wonderful trade-offs there.
Seriously though, if you're really stuck on Windows, spending the time to unfuck a default win8.1 install is probably a better option than just accepting 10. yes, it'll be some effort on maintenance and paranoia checking your settings (and services, and task scheduler) but weigh that against the forced random reboots and unexpected app breakage or forced uninstalls that STILL happen with 10.
When you live in a sick society, just about everything you do is wrong.
Unfortunately, that's not the choice. The choice is "an OS that runs the software I have to use" and "an OS that doesn't run the software I have to use."
The people that tell you that Windows 10 is the spawn of Satan and a retarded goat seem to be the same ones who insist that systemd will cause the complete destruction of the physical universe, dog and cats living together, and dingoes to each your children.
I have VLC. It has a horrible UI for playing music. I don't use WMP online.
I don't have a problem that needs solving by removing WMP.
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Linux isn't really an option, especially with so many distros including systemd. I hate to say this, but I've found Windows 10 to boot more reliably for me than the versions of Debian and Ubuntu that use systemd!
Umm... you do know there are distros that don't use Systemd, right? Hell, some were created specifically to NOT use Systemd. https://devuan.org/
Anons need not reply. Questions end with a question mark.
And this is why you never ever rely on any program made by Microsoft because they will either abandon it or remove it from you at some point. Always use open source software for everything, because you can quarantie it won't be taken away and even if it is abandoned you can still download the last version of it.
While I agree with the +4 moderation, I feel insightful to be more accurate than "Funny"
You missed the biggest contender for Linux desktop worthiness. Linux Mint. Which runs out of the box on just about any hardware I've thrown at it. It's reasonably friendly and reasonably easy to use. I highly recommend trying it. You can even get it on a Live bootable USB so you don't even need to put it on your hard drive to play with it.
...win 10 rapes everybody annually each and every year.
> I have VLC. It has a horrible UI for playing music. +1
There's nothing wrong with Windows 8, as long as you turn it into Windows 7.
You can also use classic shell on windows 10. There's nothing wrong with Windows 10, as long as you turn it into Windows 7... except the OS spying on us and able to turn on and off any software at will without users stopping it... er, never mind.
It's much easier to overcome the negatives of Windows 8 than it is to overcome the negative of Windows 10.
Windows 8:
1) Install Classic Shell
2) Done
Windows 10:
1) Turn off every privacy invading hole that Microsoft will allow you to
2) Disable automatic updates
3) Install Spybot Anti-Beacon and immunise
4) Install O&O ShutUp10 and immunise
5) Add pages of Microsoft spyware domains to your hosts file
6) Firewall pages of Microsoft spyware domains
7) Remove Edge, Cortono, X-Box, One Drive and every other spyware resource wasters that nobody wants
8) Hope that Microsoft doesn't silently reenable anything through hidden backdoors
As I said, many were tricked into "upgrading" to Windows 10. One story: Microsoft is using 'malware tactics' to trick people into upgrading to Windows 10
Unfortunately, that's not the choice. The choice is "an OS that runs the software I have to use" and "an OS that doesn't run the software I have to use."
This is exactly right. People don't care about the operating system, they care about being able to run their programs. That is the whole point of an operating system, if it can't do that then it isn't even an option.
It's much much better, especially on Mac/Linux when it uses youtube-dl to support all these by default: https://rg3.github.io/youtube-.... Need a music player? Use Clementine.
If we don't use Windows 10, what other OS can we use instead? {...} Linux isn't really an option, especially with so many distros including systemd. I hate to say this, but I've found Windows 10 to boot more reliably for me than the versions of Debian and Ubuntu that use systemd! {...} We use Windows 10 because it's the only practical option.
On the other hand, *I* find Linux to be less of a nightmare whenever I upgrade storage (replace HDD with SSD, replace old busted optical bay with a bay holding an extra SSD, rebalance BTRFS on the fly to RAID1 across the 2 SSDs, etc.), compared to Windows 10 (Whenever you move windows partitions around. Or switch between BIOS and UEFI modes. Or replace DOS-partition scheme with GPT : Windows becomes unbootable and you must yet again get the recovery disk. Or you must do the above action using specially crafted tools by the manufacturer which often are... Linux bootdisks, actually).
So as the saying goes, "Your Mileage Might Vary".
In my case, I use openSUSE's Tumbleweed Linux disto because it's a very practical option for me.
Other users might have even other experiences.
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The choice is "an OS that runs the software I have to use" and "an OS that doesn't run the software I have to use."
And in some cases, mainly in "big data" analysis fields, even moreso in bioinformatics, the "OS that runs the software I have to use" tend to be flavors of Unix - so're basically limited to macOS X or Linux.
(With only very recently Windows starting to be able to run these same software, thanks to WSL).
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apple really needs an $1000-$1500 desktop / gamer system.
$1,300 for a system with weak video card with 2GB video ram and 8GB system with an 5400 rpm HDD does not fit that bill.
Any software platform that takes away users' ability to control their own computers isn't a real OS.
Hmmmm. And here I thought the whole purpose of an OS was to have software that automates control of your hardware.
Breakfast served all day!
Solaris basically went EOL recently when Oracle fired most of the Solaris 10 team. I do agree the situation is not good for the desktop at the moment, with the "best" option (Win10) being really bad.
It is however the standard thing that happens when customers allow a quasi-monopoly to form: They get screwed. While individually, there is very little blame, as a group the users and companies that "standardized" on Windows are mostly responsible for this mess.
I do know at least one large company that will go all web-app internally to prevent going to Win10. No idea what they want to use as OS, but it will be a web-terminal and can basically run on any OS were a good browser and a secure VPN possibility exists. Probably will be Linux or one of the xBSDs.
Side note: If you install Debian with sysvinit, it still works reliably. We have a ban on systemd in our company. Far too costly with the permanent problems it causes and the special needs it has.
Most ACs are not even worth the keystrokes to insult them. Be generically insulted by this and ignored otherwise.
With systemd, yes. Basically it crapped out on me the one time I forgot to remove it. Since then I remove it routinely, as my time is too valuable. Hence I have no data. Not with pulseaudio, as I do not use it. With network manager, I don't know. I did have obscure network problems recently, but I fixed them by hard-coding everything. Also with udev, which usually requires some rule adjustments. I actually have seriously considered getting rid of udev as well and going back to static device files. At least they are reliable.
Systemd and family become really bad as soon as you have something that is not quite standard. Used to be fine before, but now you have to do everything the One True Way.
Most ACs are not even worth the keystrokes to insult them. Be generically insulted by this and ignored otherwise.
But I can run the software I need to run to, say, do my job, so I can have a place to live, and food to eat.
Given the choice between being Microsoft's bitch, and being cold, hungry and living in a cardboard box, I think I'll take being Microsoft's bitch.
Enjoy your cardboard box.
If the TSA is running Windows, it shouldn't be a problem at all.
If we don't use Windows 10, what other OS can we use instead?
Troll gets marked +4 insightful.
The shepherds did so well protecting the flock that the sheep no longer believed that wolves existed.
Agreed. There is also Audacious Media Player if you miss Winamp.
http://audacious-media-player....
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There's nothing wrong with Windows 8, as long as you install ClassicShell and disable all the Metro crap.
Windows user tells us there's nothing wrong with Windows 8, then in the next sentence tells us what's wrong in Windows 8.
The shepherds did so well protecting the flock that the sheep no longer believed that wolves existed.
If I have to choose between Windows 10 "spyware edition" or Linux with systemd, I still go for Linux.
That's a false dilemma. You don't need either piece of malware, just pick a distribution without systemd.
The creatures outside looked from Alt-Right to Antifa; but already it was impossible to say which was which.
Have you really had issues with systemd or even pulseaudio or network manager?
Welcome to the darkside of Linux users. its fashionable to shit on systemd, because its fashionable to shit on systemd.
I have it on a lot of systems, and aside from fsome early burps when it first came out, it's running well.
The shepherds did so well protecting the flock that the sheep no longer believed that wolves existed.
Given the choice between being Microsoft's bitch, and being cold, hungry and living in a cardboard box, I think I'll take being Microsoft's bitch.
Enjoy your cardboard box.
Well now Sparky, that's a fine false dillemma you have going there. Be a pity if someone came along and smashed it all up.
If you want to be Microsoft's bitch, well then BOHICA brother. I made enough money using my Macs to retire at 55 on the salary I was making. And no BOHICA.
The shepherds did so well protecting the flock that the sheep no longer believed that wolves existed.
The Silicondust tuners can ONLY play DRM content with Windows Media Center.
They (Silicondust) is about to be VERY unhappy... Not to mention those who bought the devices
For the hackintosh route you could run a VMware hypervisor with GPU pass through enabled.
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If we don't use Windows 10, what other OS can we use instead?
What's wrong with Win10 + linux subsystem? I've tended to find Windows 10 a pretty decent OS - which I'll readily admit was a huge surprise. It boots fast, is stable and with WSL I can run a bash shell while at the same time having Adobe, MS and OpenSource software all accessible. Admittedly it is not as good as macOS but I can run it on a desktop which is ~40% cheaper, takes expansion cards and 3-4 years more up to date than a Mac Pro. The same holds for laptops although the CPU+GPU age difference is only ~1 year there.
10: Parent: I dislike SystemD. 20: Child: May I bring your attention to Linux Mint? 30: Goto 10
> We don't want to use earlier versions of Windows, because support and updates for them are limited or pretty much non-existent.
False. Windows 7 doesn't have the spyware of Windows 10.
> macOS ... useless for those of us who don't have Apple hardware.
Translation: You want to continue to make excuses for why your privacy isn't worth it.
> Linux isn't really an option,
Linux has always been an option -- you are just too lazy to admin your box.
> I use Windows 10 because I'm too lazy to learn / use anything else.
FTFY
Quite astroturfing. Not everyone wants to be Microsoft's bitch.
IP based tuner boxes for both OTA and cable use... Not *exactly* a STB. The boxes have NO composite, RF or HDMI interfaces.
I plan to use this as my next desktop after Win7 x64, since it seems MS is not propagating the Win10 security patches to 7 and 8. I'm running it in a VM and so far it seems very promising. Snappy, small memory requirements and the added bonuses of almost no telemetry, no spyware and no Cortana.
The main reason I decided to migrate is that Win7 is no more viable for me. I find that the shift to monthly security updates have worsened the update situation. My current Windows 7 x64 just refuses to install the September update (KB4038777) and there is no cure for it, as currently there is no definitive solution but an in-place reinstall (been searching for a week now trying all procedures found in MS and other forums). When the updates were isolated patches one could troubleshoot the offending one, but now with the monthly updates it's an all-or-nothing deal - if it doesn't want to play along you're doomed. Given the number of people having the issue (just search error code 80073701 kb4038777 and see) I predict that Win7 will slowly but inevitably fade away due to the inability to patch it properly.
"Linux isn't really an option, especially with so many distros including systemd. I hate to say this, but I've found Windows 10 to boot more reliably for me than the versions of Debian and Ubuntu that use systemd!"
The only Linux users I see complaining about systemd are Debian and/or Ubuntu users, and with issues I haven't seen and in some cases tried to reproduce and couldn't.
Have you tried one of the other distros that uses systemd? Fedora, SUSE, Arch, Mageia etc.?
Granted there are much better out there but I have family who have stuck with Windows Media Player since Windows 7 because it's all they know and don't want to learn more at their age. I've already heard grumblings of why Microsoft does changes like this to ruin their experience. This won't go over well.
It's not merely habit. It's also that the successors/substitutes that come in Windows 10 lack some important features that WMP had.
Since WMP was a 'one-size-fits-all' application in Windows 7 and prior, one could, aside from songs, even organize music videos into playlist. Imagine that you collected a whole bunch of them from YouTube, or even bought them from somewhere. In WMP, you could organize them into a playlist just like you could w/ just audio music, and you'd be fine: you wouldn't have to have an audio only copy of your music video to have it in a playlist.
In Groove - Microsoft's music player - audio is all you're allowed to do. If one wants to watch a music video, one has to use the Movie app. But guess what: one can't create playlists in movies, since that's obviously not how one watches movies. And in Groove, where one can create playlists, one can't include music videos in them.
On my part, I got an iPod Nano - just days before Apple discontinued the product, and loaded up what I could. I need to process my collection to make it into a format that the iPod can use. While I play it in the car - that's where the playlists are really needed - I can also watch music videos on them when I'm not driving.
Wax rolls.
If builders built buildings the way programmers wrote programs, then the first woodpecker would destroy civilization.
You missed BSD - you sound like an experienced guy; give it a try...
There's always the option of FreeBSD, or one of the other BSDs.
dingoes to each your children.
Is that anything like keeping dire wolf pups? That has worked out so well for the Starks so far.
How is the Riemann zeta function like Trump rallies? Both have an endless number of trivial zeros.
I'll still take it over VLC any day. MPC has a good, clean interface and all the relevant features. It's simple to use and works great. VLC is a bit of a mess, and is not as fast or intuitive to use.
MPC all the way.
Have you really had issues with systemd or even pulseaudio or network manager?
The answer is 99 out of 100 cases would be "no". And that one case that said "yes" probably has other mitigating reasons.
You know, I really find it curious that Mint is the go-to distro for "normal people". If you go to their web site to download it, you're presented with an ISO (actually, multiple ISOs depending on what DE you want), and the directions (which must be downloaded as a PDF, of course) tell you to burn the ISO to a DVD. A lot of PCs these days don't have disc drives anymore. If you want directions on how to turn the ISO into a Live USB, you have to go to the forums, and we all know how well that usually goes in the Linux community. If it's so simple to install and use, why is it necessary to tell people to seek help from the forums? Are they so lazy that they can't maintain directions right on the download page? It is seriously not even possible to RTFM because they don't bother to include the info you need?
The last time I tried Mint from a DVD ISO, it also took about 22 minutes to boot, most of the time leaving me to stare at a blank screen without even a fake progress indicator. At several points I was wondering if my PC froze and whether I should reboot. Running the installer in a VM instead of natively didn't make things any easier.
Right from step 1, Mint is not very convincing that it's user friendly, just like every other Linux distro I've tried in the last 15 years. These are the things that prevent Linux from being taken seriously (and never get fixed) decade after decade.
precisely.
and more simply, how do you justify MS removing anything from MY computer?
The guy who said the election was rigged won the presidency with the second-most votes.
Of course none of us use it. Of course we all know about MPC and VLC. But the old lady next door, and lots of other basic users (that I help) who just want to email their grandchildren and watch cat videos, will be confused and perhaps afraid that they broke something or they have a virus. Why remove it stealthily when you could have an excuse for MORE ads about the "new and improved" replacements (yes I know they aren't improved, that's why I put quotes around the obvious marketing line). Why treat your customers badly?
There's nothing wrong with Windows 8, as long as you install ClassicShell and disable all the Metro crap.
Windows user tells us there's nothing wrong with Windows 8, then in the next sentence tells us what's wrong in Windows 8.
Pedant ignores qualifier words to make jibe ;)
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There's nothing wrong with Windows 8, as long as you install ClassicShell and disable all the Metro crap.
Windows user tells us there's nothing wrong with Windows 8, then in the next sentence tells us what's wrong in Windows 8.
Pedant ignores qualifier words to make jibe ;)
I even missed what you are talking about, so must be my dyslexic days..... Regardless, making it look like an earlier OS, and dealing with W8's Whack-a-Mole maintenance model, there is a hellava lot more wrong with it than OP's pretend W7 interface.
The shepherds did so well protecting the flock that the sheep no longer believed that wolves existed.
After the update I have to reinstall it just to be able to use it again. They should have checked if the player is in use, and if, keep it, if not, dump it.
Don't get me wrong. I agree for the most part win 8 is a bag of shit regardless, but op says there's nothing wrong with it AS LONG AS you do whatever, so if you haven't done that there is (in his opinion) something wrong with it.
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Never use the player, but I still use a terrific Windows Media Center HP PC---I have cable routed into the back and one click brings me cable TV I can record. Works fine except if I program the wrong time! They killed that one, too.
I agree with you mostly. The Metro UI isn't really that bad on 8.1. I'd take UI changes over an experimental OS I have no control over in a heartbeat.
Don't get me wrong. I agree for the most part win 8 is a bag of shit regardless, but op says there's nothing wrong with it AS LONG AS you do whatever, so if you haven't done that there is (in his opinion) something wrong with it.
Hold on though. If you have to do something to it, it kinda makes something wrong with it in my book. If I might make an example, in MacOS, there is a feature called launchpad. It's kinda like the W8 interface. The application icons are not little rectangles, but otherwise operate a bit like Metro.
But it is an option, and no third party apps needed to have the normal interface and what amounts to the taskbar at the bottom. An early Mac user would work their way around really easily.
And telling that hardly anyone that I know uses Launchpad.
So yeah, maybe I was being over pedantic, or maybe you were being a little pedantic about my pedantry. Ugh, pedantry sounds really bad!
The shepherds did so well protecting the flock that the sheep no longer believed that wolves existed.
Well, considering all you have is criticism for Linux, and obviously no intention of giving it a fair shake, I'm done with you. Good luck with Windows 10!
But I have to wonder, 22 minutes to boot, whacha trying to run it on, a 80486 with a MFM HDD?? Puhleeze. I have Celeron laptops right here that will boot Mint in less than 5 minutes. I think you're exaggerating and just dissing Mint to diss. Have fun with that.
The rest of you skeptics reading, give Mint a try. And if making a bootable USB from an ISO is rocket science, grab a copy of Rufus (for Windows) and use that to put your ISO image onto a USB stick for easy booting. Don't even have to google for instructions, I've given you all you need!
Hmmm, maybe, but to me he's putting a qualifier on it being ok rather than out of the box.
... second sentence ... when he clearly only used one sentence total and point out the irony in you using the same format for your post ;)
If I was being really pedantic I'd point out you said first sentence
Now you mention it, pedantry does sound a bit too close to peasantry for my taste, maybe there's a word that means the same but sounds like badass or something lol
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They want people to use the store so a future windows will be gutted and free or monthly small fee and you buy what you need from the Windows store.
Hello,
Here are a couple of methods for scripting re-installation of Windows Media Player after applying KB4046355.
via Command Prompt: dism.exe /online /enable-feature /featurename:WindowsMediaPlayer
via PowerShell: enable-windowsoptionalfeature -online -featureName WindowsMediaPlayer
Hopefully that will be of use to people who still need to use (or prefer) Windows Media Player.
Regards,
Aryeh Goretsky
Dexter is a good dog.
Now you mention it, pedantry does sound a bit too close to peasantry for my taste, maybe there's a word that means the same but sounds like badass or something lol
Ive been accused of douchebaggery on occasion.....
The shepherds did so well protecting the flock that the sheep no longer believed that wolves existed.
You're not wrong. Most of us just live in an imperfect world where compromises have to be made. Right now, Win8+ClassicShell is the best of several bad options available to those of us who still have to run Windows for business reasons.
Once your OS vendor becomes part of your threat model, as Microsoft has, life is bound to be full of compromises. I can't afford to ditch Windows at this point in my career -- and yes, I do consider that to be both a personal and professional failing.
Are you sure you've used it on Windows 10 in the current version? I use the enter key - both the main one and the numpad enter and they both work exactly as they did in the old calc.exe
The windows 10 replacement was a nightmare because it consumes the whole screen in some tablet-mode nonsense.
You know Win10 apps still have an "Unmaximize" button on the toolbar, right?
WHO are they to decide what WE want?!
Not when first encountered it. It was all or nothing. And the toolbar is hidden! WTF?
That and the replacement didn't do the basic thing that WMP did, which was index all the music on my network drive and make it available to browse and place. Maybe it does. Maybe its in a hidden menu somewhere. I remember it trying to sell me stuff FFS.
Music playing software was way ahead of cell phones with dissapearing headphone jacks in terms of technology that gets worse over time.
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All Win10 UWP apps can be unmaximized or resized. The "full screen only" thing was back in Win8/8.1 days, and backtracking from that was one of the big changes that Win10 made.
If you've last seen the music app in Win8, I'm not surprised. If I remember correctly, it was all about the Microsoft's own online subscription music service, and setting it up to play local stuff was convoluted and inconvenient.
The one that's in Win10 right now actually asks you which folders to index first thing when you launch it, and then gives the usual artist/album centric UI. Nothing special about it, and I've certainly seen better players, but it's "good enough" for most users.
You're selling it a lot better than Microsoft did.
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And nothing of value was lost.
I wish I had a lawn.
Well you are wrong, it's not "their" programs... it's Microsoft's program.
What's Microsoft's program? You mean the operating system? The operating system is the thing that runs programs. The usefulness of an operating system is dependent on its ability to run the programs the user wants/needs to run.
All these assholes here saying they are looking to switch OS because of a single application are just putting on bravado and ultimately won't do shit.
Who is saying they would switch OS because of a single application? And what is that application that is causing them to switch?