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Math Says You're Driving Wrong and It's Slowing Us All Down (wired.com)
A new study in IEEE Transactions on Intelligent Transportation Systems mathematically suggests that if you and everyone else on the road kept an equal distance between the cars ahead and behind, traffic would move twice as quickly. From a report: Now sure, you're probably not going to convince everyone on the road to do that. Still, the finding could be a simple yet powerful way to optimize semi-autonomous cars long before the fully self-driving car of tomorrow arrives. Traffic is perhaps the world's most infuriating example of what's known as an emergent property. Meaning, lots of individual things forming together to create something more complex. Emergent properties are usually quite astounding. You've probably seen video of starlings forming a murmuration, a great shifting blob of thousands upon thousands of birds. Bats flying en masse out of a cave is another example, swarming sometimes by the millions through a small exit. And scientists are just beginning to understand how they do so.
There, solved it.
if you and everyone else on the road kept an equal distance between the cars ahead and behind, traffic would move twice as quickly.
Yes, because no one would be merging into traffic anymore.
I was trying to get from the Domestic to the International terminal, about 5km, in a cab (along with wife and luggage). The lightrail system was under construction, which added to the mess. Traffic was gridlocked until about midnight, when it started moving. Turns out there was one traffic light that caused the gridlock. Once that went to flashing yellow, the drivers negotiated their way through the intersection.
Math says you're treating Slashdot readers wrong and it's making the internet worse for all of us.
Lazy people sit in cubicles writing equations and telling us how to move our bodies.
Once we have car to car communication. This type of driving would be possible. But without knowing what the average speed is of all the cars in our traffic area, we will never get it right. What's to stop someone from merging? Also, murmurs of birds or whatever works because they are generally going in the same direction. Traffic doesn't work that way. There is constant oncoming and departing traffic at VARYING SPEEDS. Also, accidents and complete stops due to vehicle problems. This is the kind of research done at Reddit University.
If everyone went the exact same speed everyone could go faster. Isn't that the requirement for keeping the same distance?
And then something disrupts the pattern, a gentle slope, an onramp, etc and the whole thing falls apart. Traffic is born from disturbances. I hope there is more to the paper than in TFS.
than getting stuck behind a driver that keeps racing up to the car in front of them and then hitting the brakes, falling back and doing it all over again. Keep it steady man.
In the coming years, there will no doubt be 1-2 lanes on federal highways just for automated driving. Ideally, it will have variable speeds all the way up to 100 on good days. Keep in mind that federal highways were designed for 120 mph minimum.
I prefer the "u" in honour as it seems to be missing these days.
California drivers (I grew up in Orange County) once had the zipper merge perfected. Today they seem to have abandoned all discipline.
Drive for an hour and it becomes quite obvious that traffic flows better and thus faster if each car kept a longer distance to the car ahead.
When I drive bumper to bumper in traffic ( equal distance between the cars ahead and behind) I move at a crawling speed; If people increased that space we would move twice as slow? I did not think that was possible.
That's not surprising. Spread cars out too much and you reduce the roadway's capacity. Put them too close together and you have to slow down to accommodate the driver's minimal reaction time. Having every driver choose his own distance means you can have both effects simultaneously: wasted space and insufficient response time.
Put all these constraints on and it seems obvious that you want to space cars uniformly with the minimal distance consistent with whatever statistical level of safety you demand. Naturally robotic systems will be more efficient since they require less response time -- in fact they can react to events that will cause the car in front to slow.
What would be interesting is to see the exact results they came up with: how far for how fast and under what conditions? What are the significant input parameters of the model? For example I'm sure varying the acceptable probability of a crash has a powerful effect on the optimal distance.
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in many places at least.
... because obviously, if maximizing the efficiency of human work in terms of how many products/services are created is the defined goal, it makes absolutely no sense to have a multitude of competing companies spend lots of effort and material into developing/producing/advertising the same kind of product/service.
The only catch to this, just as with human car drivers: Not compatible with homo sapiens, which evolution shaped over millions of years to behave competetive and give a shit about some "greater good" for mandkind as a whole.
They say that the distance between everyone piled up at a red light should be the same as the distance between cars on a highway. Is the implication that we should be driving extremely tightly on the highway, or extremely loosely in cities?
But who listens to scientists? Nobody does.
The car on front of me and behind me was doing 5mph in a 65mph roadway. Would we go faster if I maintained equal distance then?
If I'm driving 85mph in a 75mph zone, the idiot behind me will sit six inches off my bumper because I'm not driving 95+.
Happens almost daily.
If / when self drive cars become a reality, it will be one of the greatest things we've ever created.
At least in America, where they are not yet forced to use robotic electric cars and can use f140s.
Yes, SJW would like to turn humanity into some kind of ant hive. Ants probably are marching in equal distance too.
... speed limits.
Artificially low speed limits.
"Not to mention all the idiots who use words like boxen."
Anonymous Coward on Monday August 04, @06:49PM
Seriously? It takes the IEEE to tell us of something which has been known since before "The Godfather" hit the screens??
Wrote a simulation for this...if cars kept at least the recommended 1 Car length per 10 mph behind the leading car, traffic moves smoothly and you will likely get better gas mileage from not wasting energy unnecessarily braking.
But, some nitwit has to fuck it all up by weaving in/out of traffic causing a ripple effect on traffic flow.
Never drink and derive.
Sorry, I live in the land of ice and snow. We often see everyone following too close, then a 80 car pileup. I'm that one car that left enough space to stop before slamming into the back and making it 81 car pileup.
Just set your Tesla (or other modern) adaptive cruise control to, say, five car lengths, and just steer. It is far far easier than having to brake/accelerate and the hardware watches even when the driver has zoned out. No worries about hitting the idiot in front. No worries if someone merges into your lane: the car adapts.
In the UK, the M25 (circular road around London) has a variable speed limit.
As traffic becomes heavier, the speed limit drops. But all lanes get the same speed limit. The limit is heavily enforced with cameras.
With the limit set quite low, the traffic proceeds much more uniformly, there is no advantage to changing lanes, everyone drives at the limit.
The result is that more cars can flow past any point on the road. It's another example of the effect predicted by the paper.
The real "Libtards" are the Libertarians!
Nobody who drives *EVER* tries to monitor the distance between their car and the one BEHIND them! It's your responsibility to monitor the distance to the car in front of you. This is why all the seats in an automobile face FORWARD. Duh!
I simulated this using maps of 25 major cities 20 years ago.
The reason Iâ(TM)m most looking forward to self-driving cars including mandates is so that opportunism will be removed.
That said, the same simulations I ran also found that the width left by broken down cars for other cars to pass changed traffic flow dramatically. If there is at least 750cm on either side of a car to drive, average speed of traffic is much higher.
If you want to fix traffic in densly populated areas, you should avoid cars and use mass transit. Light rail, trams and modern busses can achieve higher travel speeds and higher throughput than cars. To connect less populated areas, you use park and ride systems, i.e. , parking lots with direct bus/tram/train access.
It's just the idiots around me that are doing it wrong!
watching you evade answering if my hosts method stopped the BOTNET IN QUESTION of the topic
The question had nothing to do with botnets - that was something you introduced late in the conversation. But yes, firewalls and routers stop them too. Even better, because they can block hostnames like hosts files can (just more efficient due to lookups being through hashes instead of linear), but also block both wildcards and IP ranges, something hosts files can't.
> you're probably not going to convince everyone on the road to do that
We'll do that when cars are driven automatically and AI does that, automatically.
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Math Says You're Driving Wrong and It's Slowing Us All Down
Fuck you and your condescending clickbait headlines. You don't know what I'm doing.
if you and everyone else on the road kept an equal distance between the cars ahead and behind, traffic would move twice as quickly. Now sure, you're probably not going to convince everyone on the road to do that.
Damn right you're not, because it's a fucking stupid idea. You want drivers to monitor the distance to the car behind them? There are enough problems getting drivers to concentrate on the direction they're travelling in.
systemd is Roko's Basilisk.
Physics says: Information transmission is not instantaneous.
Corollary: it is impossible to keep equal distances.
When the guy in front of you decelerates, you necessarily decelerate after him because Information transmission is not instantaneous. This implies the distance between you end him is reduced. Similarly, acceleration increases distances. QED.
Master of the obvious. Armies have known this for millennia. That's why soldiers maintain fixed distance and all start out together with a "forward...march" command and stop with a "company...halt". Try that at the next traffic light when you are 5 cars back. Man, if everyone just all went at the same time when the light turned green it would be awesome, but without an automated system it's just a 4 car pile-up.
With human drivers you inevitably get the "slinky" effect due to reaction time and differences in preferred speed and follow distance.
I believe this will eventually become the force driving the adoption of self-driving technology. When we get to the point autonomous cars do it right and are mixed in with human-driven cars that are screwing up and slowing down the traffic pattern for everyone else. I can see the current driving model being totally turned on its head with commuters eventually demanding that we ban human drivers.
There will also be economic pressure. Human drivers need signs, lights, and a weighty infrastructure investment. Autonomous cars need none of that expensive support.
That's our life, the big wheel of shit. - The Fat Man, Blue Tango Salvage
The way TFA it explains it is pretty silly. Keeping the same distance to the car behind you just means the car behind you is keeping the same distance from you as you are from the car in front of you. i.e. the cars are all equally spaced. Things like one car tapping its brakes, failing to maintain speed, or merging into the lane causes the cars behind it to slow down. If the cars behind this one car are bunched up, it exacerbates the slowdown. The optimal way to space the cars to minimize this slowdown (without knowing ahead of time which car will slow or merge) is to equally space all of them. Simple as that. (If the slowdown happens when the cars aren't bunched up the impact is smaller than when equally spaced. But on balance the bunched up slowdown outweighs the non-bunched slowdown. Like swimming upstream then downstream back to your start point at a constant speed relative to the water is slower than swimming the same distance when there's no current, because with a current the slowdown on the upstream leg exceeds the speedup on the downstream leg.)
The capacity of a road is how many cars can pass a fixed point per hour. You can increase this by widening the roads, but that involves a lot of eminent domain and construction work. The alternative is to increase the speed of the cars. Double the speed and you double the number of cars that pass a fixed point per hour.
Except we have a safety rule which says to keep a 2 second gap between you and the car in front of you (because braking distance increases with speed while human reaction time remains constant) . When there's a lot of traffic, that rule effectively cancels out the flowrate benefit of speeding up. Twice the speed, twice the gap, same number of cars pass a fixed point per hour. That's why traffic engineers have been so interested in autonomous cars, adaptive cruise control, and automatic braking systems. If you can increase the speed without increasing the distance (shrink the gap to significantly less than 2 seconds), you increase the capacity of the road and thus increase its ability to handle more traffic. As for problems merging when the gaps between cars is smaller, it's been proposed that cars on the highway form a train - a block of a dozen or so cars on cruise control radar-locked bumper to bumper - with larger spaces in front of and behind the train where new cars can merge into.
Of course, my response is if the optimal solution is a train, then just use a train. Create railroad cars which automobiles can drive onto, which depart at regular intervals between common distant destinations, like a roll-on roll-off ferry. People can stay in their cars during the trip. Watch TV, play games, enjoy the scenery, browse the web. And the car engines can be off during the trip so only the train locomotive needs to burn energy, which would put the fuel efficiency of the entire train at around 200 MPG (at 2 tons per vehicle).
See subject: You kill yourselves for me! E.G. Arth1 PUBLICLY transported himself to the shitcan https://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=11548919&cid=55834483/ (trying to hide it via sockpuppets & unidentifiable ac posts in yours)!
Don't worry - I'll just REPOST IT so it IS VISIBLE publicly, AGAIN, RoTfLmAO - running you DRY of your 'downmodpoints' trying to 'hide it' in VAIN w/ your 1 EFFETE "weapon" - abused downmods!
* CHUMPS - I LAUGH @ "your kind" on /., daily! You reply by unidentifiable ac AFTER you downmod me - proving me RIGHT yet again on that too!
(ALL due to your 'downmod bullets' bouncing off me & YOUR FUCKUPS (like arth1 here trying to cover his ass failing again vs. me here https://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=11548919&cid=55834733/ ))
APK
P.S.=> Thank you for making me look GREAT & yourselves like shit, lol... apk
Says the guy that can't engrischen. You should use your native language, you might then look intelligent. At the least, your rants would be legible (I'm assuming. You might be a dumbass in your native language too, but I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt, how magnanimous of me huh?).
I was once in a traffic jam that had traffic backed up for miles. All the cars were equal distance apart, but none of them were moving! Turns out there was no accident ahead, no stalled cars, no reason whatsoever.
What happens is some idiot lightly taps his brakes, may to turn off his cruise control, who knows. Then the driver behind him, not knowing how hard the first one is braking, taps his brakes a bit more. This continues with drivers braking a little harder all the way back, so that cars a hundred yards back come to a complete stop. Of course, then all the traffic behind them comes to a stop. We've all seen it happen.
The answer is to never, ever touch your brakes on an interstate. If everybody paid attention and kept a decent distance apart, you'd never NEED to brake. Exits and on-ramps should be built such that all braking and slowing down would be done on them, not out in the travel lanes.
See subject & https://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=11532533&cid=55833641/ & I tore up your phantasyland bs w/ your own words!
Also per subject how arth1 & his sockpuppet fake alternate accounts TRY HIDING THIS SAME POST last time I posted it lol https://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=11548919&cid=55834483/ via my UNLIMITED ac posting ability running him DRY of ABUSED "downmodpoints" he uses to try "save face", lol...
* It was FUNNY watching you evade answering if my hosts method stopped the BOTNET IN QUESTION of the topic @ hand 6x PLUS seeing you run from that point in the link above too? PRICELESS & CLASSIC, lol!
APK
P.S.=> Keep talking - I am going to have a FIELD DAY on you exposing how f'ing STUPID you are & NO - I will NOT allow you to "downmod hide" it either chump... apk
This guy figured all that out in detail years ago ...
The biggest cause of congestion in recent times is the number of people looking down at their cellphone (pretending not to since in the UK it is illegal) in stop-start traffic. I watch these morons look up occasionally, notice the lights have changed, like 5 mins ago, and move off... The car behind then does the same thing, after eventually noticing and, oh, now the lights are red again. In the end, two, maybe three cars have made it through the junction when twice that many could have moved if people had been paying attention.
Says the guy that can't engrischen. You should use your native language, you might then look intelligent.
Oh, Alexander Peter Kowalski is American, and currently lives in upstate New York. He just appear to have some problems communicating rationally like most people. IANAMP, so I won't speculate on why, but I do think he needs help of a type we cannot offer here.
I still wish the owners here would adjust the lameness filter for AC posts to be a bit more strict, to avoid derailments like this. Too much use of bold, upper case, links to other slashdot posts and the trademark "P.S. =>" could easily be stopped, I think.
This is why I always pull into your lane when you try to pass me. You are screwing up the algorithm and I'm fixing it.
Some drink at the fountain of knowledge. Others just gargle.
Be sure to enjoy the fact that your children and grandchildren will likely be living in a world where they're treated like sheep, herded and corraled and shuttled from place to place, with no control over where they're going, how fast they're going, or whether they're going anywhere at all, and having been raised to be so dumb that they couldn't drive themselves if they even knew that was ever a Thing, and that they wouldn't know where to start, but also that they've been indoctrinated that even wanting to is suicidal and sign of a diseased mind, and that humans are incapable of operating any vehicle safely, 'only a machine can do that!'. I just hope I'm long since dead and gone before I have to witness a world where people not only can't take care of themselves anymore, but aren't allowed to take care of themselves, and furthermore are watched 24/7 from cradle to grave, like, again, so many farm animals. All we'll need then is Soylent Green to make the dystopia complete. Or maybe you'll all be spared that by nuclear war destroying everything, or global climate change making the world uninhabitable. Or maybe you fucking sheep will wake the fuck up and start taking back your lives!
If you have a road containing x lanes and a flow rate of y, then you can optimize traffic based on the predictive analysis of the population and when they *screeech* OMG WTF IS THAT ASSHOLE DOING! And then the traffic flow is zero. Q.E.D
~X~
You've probably seen video of starlings forming a murmuration,
Nope. I sure haven't.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?...
I work in a manufacturing environment, and changing even a handful of people's behavior is so incredibly difficult and costly ("always pick up one orange nut at a time, then the blue nut, don't grab two at once.") that asking everyone to change the way they drive is just ridiculous. You have to change things so that the desired behavior is the easier behavior. For instance, advanced cruise control that adjusts your distance automatically might be a solution. In our plant, if the process says they should do X before Y, then the only way to ensure it actually happens all the time is to prevent Y from happening until there's proof X happened. People just aren't reliable.
"I have never let my schooling interfere with my education." - Mark Twain
Sorry but we need more mass transit not more studies on how to make car traffic better.
Anything else is a waste of time at best and a complete detriment to society on the whole.
See subject: I can't take FULL credit - you NUKED YOURSELF for me, lol https://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=11532533&cid=55833641/ also admitting hosts stopped the botnet in question too!
* Whipslash (a Joogle pawn payee his only income) tried & failed: "APK's days are numbered" by whipslash (4433507) February 09, 2016 (#51475843)
+ "Haha... have you seen APK lately?" by whipslash (4433507) February 16, 2016 (#51524853)
Oh, really? You want it hid I nuked you top 1st link above?? Good luck - see those quotes!
APK
P.S.=> Abused downmods, deleting my posts (& not only mine when /. says it doesn't delete posts) https://hardware.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=11509041&cid=55776597/ - there's no stopping facts, truth OR ME... apk
>1) get left lane laggards to drive properly and not slow down faster traffic
With new legislation effective las October 1, the Nevada Highway Patrol is now issuing "obstruction of traffic" tickets to cars in the left lane that "know or reasonably should know" that their slow speed is obstructing traffic.
hawk
Keeping constant spacing and running at a reasonable speed within a lane may be good. But holding the same speed in adjacent same-direction lanes is very bad.
In driving classes, back in the mid-20th century, we were warned against it. You NEVER were to hold the same speed as a car in an adjacent lane. (About a 5 MPH drift, with leftward lanes faster, was close to ideal.) Judging by the behavior of current drivers on California freeways that lore has apparently been lost.
Some of the issues:
- Adjacent cars form a multi-lane "rolling roadblock". Drivers behind them who wish to travel faster are impeded, collect behind them, and end up "compressed", setting up the conditions for a chain, reaction multicar pileup.
- With an inter-lane drift a driver wishing to pass a slower car soon has an opening to switch lanes and proceed.
- With the slowest lane to the right and increasing speed to the left, merges and exits require less speed change and have better timing margins, long-distance traffic proceeds rapidly with little disturbance, and lane changes are easy. Drivers have the opportunity to rapidly distribute themselves among the lanes and drive at a speed where they're comfortable.
- When driving at the same speed as an adjacent vehicle you increase your risk of collision:
- If you're in a blind spot you STAY in the blind spot for a long time. The window of opportunity for the adjacent driver to happen to make a lane change into you - or into the space immediately in front of you, becomes much larger than if you had a relative drift.
- If you hold relative position the other driver's peripheral-vision motion detector doesn't keep him aware of your presence. After a minute or so you're likely to fall out of his attention. Then, if a sudden traffic situation makes him need to change lanes suddenly (or he just wants to change lanes and forgets to do a recheck), he may swerve into you.
(By the way: The two-way two-lane equivalent of the rolling road-block chain-reaction-collision precursor is the "rat pack", a term of art in traffic engineering. It occurs when the first driver goes slightly over the limit and the second driver won't pass because he doesn't want to risk the necessary speed, but follows too closely for following cars to pass in two single-car hops. Fault is primarily on the second driver.)
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I've noticed that people who constantly change lanes in traffic tend to slow everyone else down. I've general thought that through traffic should always stay far left and people making exits should stay right. Why some cities refuse to allow trucks in the left lanes is not understanding that a long truck in the right lane is just preventing proper merging. Of course you have drivers who have no clue how to efficiently drive. They drive like their ass is on fire.
Bullocks. We're not talking about distances where the speed of light has a noticeable impact.
Synchronization is very easy. Send a timestamped message that you'll brake or accelerate N milliseconds from now, and everyone behind you can do it at the same time.
Dunno what you teach your drivers over there, but there's generally regarded to be one lane, and multiple "overtaking lanes" in all the terminology for most of the countries I have seen driving-school things for. It has almost nothing to do with when you learned to drive unless you're positively ancient. You go into a "faster" lane only to overtake, then pull back in. All your reasoning is WHY you do that, but it's always been the rule of the road too.
If you're parallel-driving, you're an idiot. You're just blocking traffic. If you're going faster on the (passenger side) lanes, you're an idiot. If you're not actually overtaking in the (driver side) lanes, you're an idiot. Admit defeat, fall back, drop in 50 feet behind, what's the big deal? Don't block 2/3rds of the lanes between you and the other car who has no interest in what speed you're doing because HE'S not the one overtaking (or trying to) or in the wrong lane.
Hell, in my country, it's incredibly common to see a 4-lane motorway (freeway) with some idiot in the 3rd lane (i.e. should be overtaking TWO ENTIRE LANES of traffic) when there's nobody else anywhere near him. Everyone has to slow to his speed, bunch up, and try to squeeze past only via the "fastest" overtaking lane. How do you not notice you're a hazard? How do you not realise you're in the wrong when people flash/beep you and bunch up behind? How - once you have the first among-friends-anecdote about the dickhead in lane-3 - do you not think "Oh, maybe I shouldn't be doing that"?
If you want to reduce congestion, it's pretty easy. Smooth driving, look ahead. Leave yourself a gap. Leave that joining car a gap rather than fight (i.e. if both have to slow/speed/intrude to get into something that you could have shared / made clear for them). Drift between lanes (with appropriate signalling) rather than jerk between them. Remove the snap-judgement element, which is what makes drivers behind over-react for their own safety, which propagates backwards and starts causing problems (waves of slow-fast-slow-fast traffic with no obvious cause? Yeah, that's caused by idiots up ahead making rapid lane changes or fighting among themselves, they've done mathematical studies on it).
And, to be honest, for any significant distance on a motorway? Sit in the "slowest" lane, poodle along at "just" 60-70mph. You'll get there roughly the same time as the speeding idiot, you'll be less stressed, you have less to worry about and you can just slide around slow moving vehicles with ease and in your own time. "Cruise" control is appropriately named.
But, for sure, if you have to think about driving safely, or change how you go about driving because you read something on the Internet, you were an idiot before. What other stupid and inconsiderate things are you doing too?
Driving is actually easy, and motorway driving is actually quite relaxing, done right. Because there are no snap-judgements and "let's hope I react fast enough" if you drive properly, on a motorway there isn't a chance of a small child wandering across the road (but, hey, you can see so far in front you'd spot them anyway, right?).
The motorways of countries where road-laws are strict and people stick to them (e.g. Germany) are a joy to drive. Literally EVERYONE just moves over gently as soon as their manoeuvre is complete.
But if you have to THINK about how you drive, reason it out to yourself, take in information from other people to do so, you weren't paying attention in driving school, or you're an idiot that can't just look at the situation and say "Hold on a moment..."
Don't know about you, but I tend to focus on the distance ahead of me, that I can easily see and control...and let the people around me do the same.
This sounds useful for when we have cars that can drive themselves and use many sets of sensors, but then we probably won't need to do this.
The reason is actually simple, you have no idea how long the guy in front of you is going to take before he notices the light changed. I've easily seen it take 10+ seconds for the guy to notice. Hell, sometimes they take so long that only their car can get through.
Did you know 80 to 90% of the moderators on slashdot wouldn't recognize a troll even if one dragged them under a bridge.
can't we just argue everything is?
mod up
As a 25 year tour bus and tractor trailer driver, it has been my observation that what slows traffic is having just one driver driving slow in a center lane.
Here it is. Shit on a layer of shit. And we should stay 10 feet behind a car moving 5 mph as well as 90 mph.
Really? Common sense tells us that even without cell phone usage only a millenial, or a Russian spammer could begin to in this pile of Democrate party bull.
That's how it works in many cities, even in Europe e.g. standard in Athens, Greece if you want to get somewhere in half the time.
Does this work because your acceleration is now modelled using the central difference method. This would mean that your acceleration model is no longer subject to first order truncation errors which could be significant if you are actually trying to pick the best speed at any given time by reacting to traffic in your lane.
means that we all suffer more when people don't do the right thing.
also it takes far fewer people doing the wrong thing to muck up traffic.
Absolute statements are never true
APK you are a retard and you prove it every time you post.
Like how you state that hosts stops inbound connections.
We saw your claims about how your work stops everything yet is always behind and easily circumvented as proved by many people including me.
When you say China copied you.
When you describe the features in your shit software.
Then there are you anti semitic rants.
Let us not forget about your conspiracy theories involving Hillary, Soros, antifa, and the Bavarian Illuminati.
The above still ignores your inability to compose a cogent thought.
Also it ignores that your writing looks like a dog vomited up a box of Alpha-Bits and then crapped out some punctuation on it.
To sum up you are a retard and prove it continuously with every post you make.
APK is just mad he got spanked hard so now he lashes out.
Too bad his work is just as ineffective as he is.
Old, broken, slow, bloated, worthless.
Please tell me how your work stops inbound connection (it doesn't).
If that is too hard please tell me how it can stop at least of 1/(1x10^100) of the possible domains (it can't).
If you still can't do that then please provide some actual proof that China copied you (they didn't).
Too bad you can't do any of that because you are a retard and want to prove it to the world.
question had nothing to do with botnets - that was something you introduced late - by arth1 (260657) A FAKE NAME TROLL I DESTROY P U B L I C L Y vs. me on HOSTS December 30, 2017 (#55834585)
See subject & I introduced it LONG BEFORE YOUR BS FAIL vs. a botnet & it works https://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=11532533&cid=55812745/
firewalls and routers stop them too. Even better, because they can block hostnames like hosts files can (just more efficient - by arth1 (260657) A FAKE NAME TROLL I DESTROY P U B L I C L Y vs. me on HOSTS December 30, 2017 (#55834585)
* Windows native firewall doesn't work vs. hostnames (hosts do) & most botnets + malware use hostnames & routers are loaded w/ security issues (w/ ADDED costs per unit & added powerbill cost)!
Firewalls have layered filtering driver overhead over tcpip.sys + their blocklists (hosts = native PROVEN part of the IP stack since 1973 or so THAT DON'T in added drivers!).
APK
P.S.=> You LOSE - publicly... apk
I'm going to continue using the Host File Engine. Your software is well written, functional. The Host File Engine performs exactly as promised by mmell February 16, 2017
I've never tried to belittle (APK's work), I've flat out said it's good by BronsCon February 11, 2016
his hosts program is actually pretty good by xenotransplant August 10, 2015
his hosts tool is actually useful for those cases in which one does indeed want to locally block stuff outright while consuming minimum system resources by alexgieg September 25, 2015
I like your host file system by Karmashock September 09, 2015 (#50489401)
I do use APK's host file on all my systems at home by OrangeTide December 01, 2017
I personally use a HOSTS file blocker produced from a genius called APK by 110010001000 October 27, 2017
* Want more? Ask & pay attention to 1st quote above on writing!
APK
P.S.=> Stumbling all over yourselves trying post burial too I see... apk
get up 15 minutes earlier if you are into your career.
so people can merge effectively at on-ramps. Instead of this dangerous tail-gating crap I see everyday. A-holes
See subject: Who stalks me. Hosts block botnet C&C its client can't get inbounds. China copied me on hosts http://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/04/26/boffins_supercharge_the_hosts_file_to_save_users_plagued_by_dns_outages/ . I never said "hosts stop all threats" just that they stop MORE than ANY OTHER SINGLE "so-called 'solution'" that is full of security issues (routers/DNS/antivirus (slows you, hosts speed you up)) or sold-out to not work by default (adblock) for FAR LESS resource use & complexity (for exploit usually) natively - not illogically "Bolting on 'MoAr'" stupidly!
APK
P.S.=> The rest of your post is non-sequitur & ravings of the stalking loon you are... apk
Math Says You're Driving Wrong and It's Slowing Us All Down
No, "Math" doesn't say that. Someone or some group CLAIMING to be experts allege they did some calculations and claim incorrectly that "You're Driving Wrong" and further claim, also falsely, that "It's Slowing Us All Down". These claims are easily demonstrably false. First, did they model all roads and all vehicles for all time? No, of course not, even if they actually COULD and DID have the total information they needed, which they DON'T, it would only tell them about the past, not the future. Second, ignoring the first point, which you can't, but let's pretend, the claim is that "YOU" are driving wrong, (meaning in my case, ME,) and this is false. The authors of this bullshit claim don't know me and so can't possibly know how I drive. They also probably don't know you either and therefore have no clue how YOU drive. They ASSUME a lot, don't they. But their claim is that the problem, speaking generally, with traffic is that people do not somehow magically keep a cushion of open space of equal size before and behind their vehicles. This is basically impossible, for a couple reasons, one of which is, you can't really CONTROL how much space there is BEHIND your vehicle, unless you are driving BACKWARDS. You can only CONTROL how much space there is in FRONT of your vehicle, and even THAT you only have SOME control over. If you use too LITTLE, the odds of a collision with the vehicle in front of you SKYROCKET, and you may even be pulled over, (slowing everyone down because people can't help but look to see if someone's dead,) and ticketed, resulting in YOU being even later, and if you leave too MUCH space, someone from an adjacent lane will move into the space, and the NEW vehicle NOW in front of you will be much closer, requiring you to slow down MORE, resulting in a hazardous condition for vehicles behind you, which is tolerable if you're leaving the path of travel, (turning onto a side-street, etc.,) but provision is often made with something called a "turn lane" that allows for that without delaying traffic unduly. While it is almost certainly true that if all vehicles traveling along any road or highway maintained a modest but reasonable distance in front of them, everyone would be safer, and traffic might flow better, under SOME circumstances, under MOST, the maintenance by all vehicles of the same speed and space-cushion is impossible, as they don't all have the same capabilities of acceleration, they coast and decelerate in a different fashion and so on. Like so many bare assertions CLAIMED to be backed up mathematically, the claim is laughably false.
Take for instance the following: I have 2 peanuts, and you have 2 walnuts, so therefore, you should give me 4 million dollars, since two plus two equals four.
LET THIS BE A LESSON TO YOU. Math can only support a claim if it is done CORRECTLY, and is the correct math TO DO in the first place. In this absurd example, the math is, I assure you, 100% correct, 2 + 2 = 4. BUT the fact that the arithmetical statement is true, right, and correct, does NOT logically support the conclusion.
I see a lot of people speeding and tailgating and generally disrupting traffic only to have to stop at the same red light as everyone else (which are generally timed for the posted speed limit). If traffic actually flowed instead, it would be as though there were no other cars on the road for everyone driving on it.
Good thing the author of the paper lives in a world where tires never blow out, engines never fail, objects never fall off of vehicles in front of you, animals never run out into traffic, tree limbs never fall on the road, icy patches never form on cold nights, etc.
The problem is that when you try to not tailgate, some tailgatyer will insert in front of you
The solution seems obvious to me: fine tailgating, speed camera could do it.
If there is always adequate room on the lane beside you to easily Switch Lanes then you can make exits you need to make without having to fruitlessly drive around the block trying to get into the lane or street you need to be in and thereby congesting traffic. also if tailgating was eliminated a major causes accidents would probably be eliminated too.
I really hope you didn't just dox APK. It's that information public?
Let's not do this on Slashdot.
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SJW, n: "Someone I don't like, and by the way I'm a fuckwit" - AC
I really hope you didn't just dox APK. It's that information public?
Yeah, he has posted it himself many times. Including address, phone number and e-mail address, which I wouldn't bother posting.
Highway traffic is no longer any real annoyance for me now with the Tesla, I just set TACC to +5, enable autopilot and let the car worry about 90% of the driving. TACC alone makes the speeding up/down issue moot and reduces stress greatly.
my brain is a computer, and it figured this out years ago. i try to do it when i remember. doesnt help if no one else does it.
So, because the guy behind me is tailgating, I should also tailgate, and then we can all go 140 mph tailgating each other?
Whoever published this study is a moron.
Yeah, he has posted it himself many times. Including address, phone number and e-mail address by arth1 (260657) A FAKE NAME TROLL I DESTROY P U B L I C L Y vs. me on HOSTS on Saturday December 30, 2017 @11:31PM (#55837325)
See subject: You telling lies about me now is your "revenge" after you took potshots @ me & failed https://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=11532533&cid=55833641/ ?
* Pitiful... & childish of you.
(My name & email address are in my programs online - I don't hide those but I've never posted my home address publicly online).
APK
P.S.=> As you can see, even AmiMijo thinks you're being lame & low arth1 - get over it, grow up, & don't do it again - you aren't successful trying to "get the better of me" & you're further ruining your image - NOT THAT THAT MATTERS BEHIND A FAKE NAME ONLINE YOU USE which speaks worlds of your lack of character alone... apk
Proof's where arth1 tells lies about me after failing vs. me in tech https://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=11548919&cid=55838059/ & China did copy part of what I do in my hosts program LONG after I released it http://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/04/26/boffins_supercharge_the_hosts_file_to_save_users_plagued_by_dns_outages/ & you must be dumb since when a botnet C&C is blocked, the botnet client CANNOT ASK FOR INBOUND CONNECTIONS (it can't reach the C&C to ask for orders OR send data to it or other spots) OR GO OUTBOUND TO IT!
APK
P.S.=> Does your ineffectual stalking of me FAILING in your lies make you feel better? Your stupidity makes you look even dumber... apk
So you are assuming everyone on the road is using an autonomous vehicle.
Very few people have the maturity and will power to actually -work- from home.
I've been managing people in Silicon Valley for 20 years. I quickly learned that "wfh today" really means "checking my email just often enough to look like I'm not running errands all day".
Wfh is bullshit. Sure it'll fix the traffic problem but then work progress would drop 90%.
Yes yes yes there are a trivial number of people who can work this way, stfu, you are not the baseline for human behavior.
I find it hard to believe you're an experienced manager of people with this attitude. Create clear and concise metrics to measure performance. Fire the lazy fucks who don't perform. That simple logic applies to every employee regardless of where their office is.
And no one uses baseline human behavior as a hiring metric, so it's fucking irrelevant. You hire the right people qualified to do the job. A good employee recognizes WFH as a gift and rewards the business for it because it saves them countless hours wasted on commuting, as well as a considerable pay raise with fuel savings and vehicle wear-and-tear. It also boosts morale and job satisfaction, metrics a good manager still gives a shit about.
TL; DR - Chaining someone to a desk is a requirement that should have been left in high school. We're managers, not fucking babysitters.
I remember this being discussed in my transportation engineering class back in the 80s.
You couldn't get people to give a flying fuck back then. And, in the current age of narcissism, you sure as hell aren't going to now.
I agreed with everything else you said, except for that one observation.
How can you tell that no one else is doing these things? Smart driving tends to look unexceptional, in the same way that elite goal tenders often make the game look easy.
Does perhaps your claim boils down to this: there are more idiots on the road than obvious, distinctive geniuses like Dominik Hasek?
Dominik Hasek
I often regulate my breaking according to the sum of my following distance plus the following distance of the car behind me.
I doubt that one other driver in 100 has even the vaguest perception that I'm attuned to the space around me in all pertinent directions.
I even find this hard to detect in others, and I often look for the most subtle clues. Sometimes I comment to my wife "the driver of that car in the left lane used to drive a motorcycle". Motorcycle drivers—surviving sample—tend to view the entire width of their lane as a resource to be exploited at all times. In a vehicle, that gets compressed down to about one foot of lateral freedom, according to traffic conditions near by (more than a foot starts to alarm people about your lane management).
The number one rule of truly proficient driving: never give the other drivers around you an excuse to think about one thing more than they already failing to fully internalize, unless that one thing is the only thing you want that driver to attend to (in packed conditions, one almost never wants to have this effect on another driver, but it can be quite useful—wielded judiciously—in lesser congestion).
There's a huge correlation between skill and stealth, hence the Wobegon woes.
Illusory superiority
Illusory superiority itself is full of shit, because different people have different standards of competence. Some people value being polite, others value defensive driving, still others value weaving and wending to leave the slings and arrows of outrageous fortune in their rear-view mirror (which is generally covered in black tape).
Surprisingly (not!) we all think we're above average in the attributes we most value.
I'm all for the formation of a traffic system similar that portrayed in the movie Minority Report. Each individual "car" (or whatever term is adopted) could be from different brands (Audi, BMW, Ford, etc) that would all adhere to certain standards. This would solve many problems of traffic logjam, accidents, etc. I do feel that something akin to this is a technological eventuality, with clean energy, tho perhaps that may be farther into the future. I say start now. Hello, Elon Musk, are you reading this.
So you are assuming everyone on the road is using an autonomous vehicle.
No, I am refuting a claim of it being impossible. It is certainly possible to put several autonomous vehicles after each other on the road, and it's possible to make them react at the same time. Thus refuting the claim that it's impossible.
See subject & there was no other payment method back then afaik & I haven't developed that toolset since - oh, 2002 iirc (almost 16 yrs. ago)?
I completely forgot about that!
So in fairness? Good catch!
(... now that I see you are 'bent' trying to 'look into me' after SELF-DEFEATING YOURSELF vs me here https://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=11532533&cid=55833641/
* I could care less about a 'fail' like that on MY end - it's not a TECHNICAL BLUNDER in computing as YOURS was vs. me, lol - a HUGE fail for you publicly!
APK
P.S.=> HOWEVER (lol) - based on your "ReAcTiOn"? I can see it "got to you" but thing is, you REALLY ONLY "GOT TO YOURSELF" by blowing it vs. me & anyone is free to check that link I posted to see it is so - get over it & grow up man... apk
That's true.
But you'll find that 'people that don't have the maturity and will power to actually -work- from home' also 'don't have the maturity and will power to actually -work- in the office, unless your watching them every second.'
Personally, I hate 'bossholes', any team member that consistently forces me to be a 'bosshole' just gets fired. The rest of the team _appreciates_ this.
John McAfee 'It was like that time I hired that Bangkok prostitute; to do my taxes, while I fucked my accountant'
I see a potential problem. Perhaps I'd better RTFA.
If somebody is tailgating me dangerously closely, to equalize the distances fore and aft shouldn't I also tailgate just as closely?
Yeah, definitely RTFA time.
There's no time like the present. Well, the past used to be.
Dunno what you teach your drivers over there, but there's generally regarded to be one lane, and multiple "overtaking lanes" in all the terminology for most of the countries I have seen driving-school things for.
When you have two lanes in the same direction, that terminology, and acting on it, makes sense. When you have, for instance, six lanes in the same direction, it does not. The extra lanes are about increasing capacity, and are intended to be used for long-distance driving rather than just passing slower traffic.
That's the sort of highways we have over here. (Especially in high-population states like California, for instance - I commute on such a 12-lane stretch every day.)
The laws have been adjusted according to this purpose. For instance: Passing on the right is expressly legal in California. On the other hand, excessive lane changes (as you'd have to make to use the "passing" paradigm) are added hazards when the lanes are being used for travel rather than merely passing, and are treated as the infraction called "weaving". Three lane changes (1 1/2 "passes") within one minute is one of the criteria police have used for issuing such citations.
Bantam Dominique roosters crow a four-note song. Once you've heard it as "Happy BIRTHday" you can't NOT hear it that way