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End of Flash? Its Usage Among Chrome Users Has Declined From 80% in 2014 to Under 8% as of Early 2018 (bleepingcomputer.com)
An anonymous reader writes: The percentage of daily Chrome users who've loaded at least one page containing Flash content per day has gone down from around 80% in 2014 to under 8% in early 2018. These statistics on Flash's declining numbers were shared with the public by Parisa Tabriz, Director of Engineering at Google, one of the Google bigwigs in charge of Chrome's security. Google plans to ship Flash disabled-by-default with Chrome 76 (July 2019) and remove it completely in Chrome 87 (December 2020).
VMware administrator waiting for them closing their HTML5 implentation for vCenter:-)
CW Arrowverse ftw.
The Great Steve said so...
Good. Now put throttles on Javascript so it won't lock up my browser because idiots don't want their java implementation to be 0.4% slower than somebody else's in a consumer testing table done by other idiots equally ignorant of the issues.
(-1: Post disagrees with my already-settled worldview) is not a valid mod option.
Hopefully RIP (FutureWave | ShockWave | Macromedia | Adobe) Flash 1995 - 2018.
Mourned by few.
BTW: Did anyone find out whether the ammo Steve used was made out of silver?
Chrome now makes you jump through hoops to enable Flash for a site - so of course usage has declined precipitously. When it was enabled by default, all those Flash objects an any random web page would load. Now it's only going to be when a person actually wants access to Flash.
It's slightly annoying for me simply because I only use Chrome when I specifically need to access a site which still uses Flash. But for people who routinely enjoy giving Google all their - er, I mean, prefer to use Chrome as their daily driver - this is a good thing.
#DeleteChrome
Many other flash memes like badgerbadgerbadger switched to HTML5. 2020 will be interesting with both the end of Flash and Windows 7.
...if it doesnt support Flash.
Wait, wut?
Why does the latest version VCenter Web Client still require Flash in order to get full functionality?!
Good. Now put throttles on Javascript so it won't lock up my browser because idiots don't want their java implementation to be 0.4% slower than somebody else's in a consumer testing table done by other idiots equally ignorant of the issues.
Calls people idiots. Doesn't know the difference between Java and Javascript.
I had my last Flash project back in 2011. Never did anything with Flash since.
To be clear: Flash is super-dead.
Which is a crying shame. And please spare me the Flash banner ad whining. ... Flash was *at* *least* 15 years ahead technology wise. You could do many things with Flash that JS/WebGL/CSS still struggle to achieve today on computers orders of magnitude faster than anything we had back then.
Adobe screwed this up big time. Flash could've been the brave new resolution-independent vector graphic world of retina displays and mobile devices. What do we have instead? React and React Native and awkward SVG and canvas hacks using transpiled JS and whatnot. Laughable compared to even the simplest Flash/AS client/server setup and way more difficult to handle. With Flash/AS you could whip up an interactive map or some other gadget in a coffee break, async data with the server included. Adobe screwed it up big time. They should've FOSSed it when the touch-mobile revolution started - that was their last chance. Flash is dead and Adobe alone is to blame.
I don't use Adobe products anymore. Flash was the only proprietary tech I used and it will remain the only one. Flash was worth it. Very neat tech. Hope we get there once again sometime in the future. Until then it's HTML canvas, TypeScript, WebGL and Web Asssembly. ... Yeah, just great.
We suffer more in our imagination than in reality. - Seneca
Maybe because the latest HTML already has support for what Flash use to do.
Reread his post. Methinks you didn't read all of it.
I would like to not use flash anymore but sites like crunchyrool and others will only play videos in flash. talking to crunchyroll I found out that they only support html5 videos on safari on mac. so it's flash for everywhere else. which sucks. lot of other sites use it for videos as well.
Seriously, the only issue I see with Flash beeing deprecated is accessing to some legacy site. I was more concerned with Java applet beeing deprecated, because there are usecases where applet have no replacement solution. For instance, if you need access to smartcard to get decent two form factor identity level for signature. Web crypto is not moving much and not covering those areas AFAIK. And alternative such as WebUSB are limited to Chrome only. Applet were working on all the desktop browsers.
My daughter's assignments (public middle school) are on a website that requires flash. Cannot be used in recent Firefox builds. Flash will not go away while it's required by the public school system.
I hadn't known there were so many idiots in the world until I started using the Internet -Stanislaw Lem
When everyone was dial-up, Flash was needed. Now it's not as much and the internet is more bloated because of it.
I would gladly give up flash forever, if only the time clock at work didn't require it.
Fucking ADP.
I can't drop flash in Chrome until Google Hangouts doesn't require it for camera/mic access on OSX.
I got an annual report for an upcoming stockholders' meeting for a stock I own. I was really surprised that the whole thing was in Flash. Not PDF but ail in Flash. This is a company in the top 250 of the Fortune 500. While it's not an IT company, let's just say that you would think they have a good enough handle on technology to not make their annual report be only in Flash, but nope. I'm not going to name the company lest doing so hurt the stock value, but it just shows you how even people who you might have thought were way past using Flash are in fact still using it.
However Javascript+HTML5 has became the replacement for Actionscript+Flash. The real difference is the fact that Javascript and HTTML5 are open standards, while Flash is under the domain of Adobe.
However Adobe knows it had a good run with it, and has been implementing a gradual exit strategy for a while. But in terms of functionality and bad developers doing bad things. There isn't much you can do about it. Any throttles will need to be done by the browser, and may cause problems for some applications.
If something is so important that you feel the need to post it on the internet... It probably isn't that important.
Spouse had to re-install Flash on Chrome to complete mandatory continuing ed coursework for job as RN. Chrome put up some resistance but we were able to beat it down and install Flash. I doubt the release of an html5 version is imminent.
On where users go and what they experience? Then sending it to the mother ship?
Hope that was voluntary
I do IT for a school district. We have federally mandated testing requirements. Many of the test programs we are required to run by law use Flash. It can be a real nightmare to get them to work on Chromebooks especially.
Will this Google startup still exist by then?
And now we know how many people use ADP for payroll, 8% of Chrome users...
I'm not going to name the company lest doing so hurt the stock value.
Buy short options and then make it public. The stock will plummet and you will get rich.
God I can't understand how the fuck Flash still exists.
It's been a steaming pile of shit full of security holes for almost 2 decades, and is used by ad companies, companies who can't write a decent website, and training videos because the HR department shouldn't be allowed to use technology.
Last week to take my company's mandatory security training. In order to do it, I had to enable Flash, which I have disabled for security reasons.
Flash needs to die ... I'm not letting some damned random website run code on my machine ... not javascript, not Flash. Flash has always been so full of holes it's unbelievable it's lasted this long.
Flash was self contained and easy to block. I think that when HTML5 will be misused, we might end up missing it.
Avantgarde Hebrew science fiction
I thought Chrome disabled flash over 6 months ago?
It's been broken since at least that long.
I used to watch various streaming channels (through cable provider login) in Chrome.
However some time ago that broken, and I have to use Firefox now.
I even went through the steps to enable it, but it didn't help.
The only news here is that apparently it's supposed to still work.
Flash is more alive than Edge!
Double the market share in its own market compared to Edge which has 4% of the browser market.
To understand why, you have to understand what flash is still used for. Flashsockets, quasi DRM and media players. There's also all those flash games ..
Don't know where Google is getting their data from but many sites still use flashsockets. These aren't necessarily top 100. Our HR in their infinite stupidity, outsources training to a firm whom deals in nothing but flash. We had to push explicit exceptions to users allowing it which puts us at further risk.
I want flash gone, really I do. It's a drain on our helpdesk staff dealing with flash exploited users. But Google's solutions to what flash offers aren't exactly free of their own problems. Look at widevine (DRM) and the companies behind it which includes Google, Mozilla, Microsoft, Netflix, Valve, etc. Guess what, it's a binary blob that calls home to Google.
and most porn already switched, it's just those old links to your favorite... so i hear
at least it's just flash and not some IE only stuff or other stuff like quicktime or real. There are a few other EDU plugins from the past as well. That Worked in IE and firefox and also had MAC as well.
I'm pretty sure that most people who need flash will use it via IE or some other browser. Which will give wrong results for this study. I claim that people have not stopped using flash, they have just stopped using it via chrome because it is so hard
it may take an lawsuit say someone fails an class when they can't take there flash based class work and the school lab does not have flash on there systems.
While others are saying vSphere "web" client, there are other legacy administration consoles that require it too. I have a few network printers which use Flash for their admin interface. I also have security web cameras that can optionally work with flash and IE... but if you use Edge, Chrome, FF, it thinks you're on a mobile browser and gives you 10% functionality with a bullshit UI designed for phones.
Flash is still around because most of this shit cannot be updated, only replaced, which is often times out of the question for budget reasons.
There's a lot of JNLP software* that's no longer available with the blocking of Java.
*yes a lot of it being open source.
These poor bastards that are still forced to use websites with Flash...
Huh? How is Javascript a java implementation?
Tired of my customary (Score:1)
Telemetry also shows that 3% likes midget granny butt stuff.
You clearly haven't heard of Doppio. ;-)
He was implying the java developers move logic and 'DOM building' client side via javascript, which slows down your browser. They do this to increase the response time of their web application server and meet some silly internal dev goal of reducing page generation latency.
But very few dev teams give priority to javascript rendering times and ultimately Q/A must push back and the response is 'everyone is getting more RAM and more CPU'.
Reality.
Is that equipment for photography?
The only Flash I like has Brian Blessed in it.
>> BTW: Did anyone find out whether the ammo Steve used was made out of silver? :)
Nearly. It was made of Silverlight
It was nicer with flash, but so much insecure :
https://cdn.inquisitr.com/wp-c...
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What are /.'ers using for interactive video conferencing to replace Adobe Connect?