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End of Flash? Its Usage Among Chrome Users Has Declined From 80% in 2014 to Under 8% as of Early 2018 (bleepingcomputer.com)
An anonymous reader writes: The percentage of daily Chrome users who've loaded at least one page containing Flash content per day has gone down from around 80% in 2014 to under 8% in early 2018. These statistics on Flash's declining numbers were shared with the public by Parisa Tabriz, Director of Engineering at Google, one of the Google bigwigs in charge of Chrome's security. Google plans to ship Flash disabled-by-default with Chrome 76 (July 2019) and remove it completely in Chrome 87 (December 2020).
Good. Now put throttles on Javascript so it won't lock up my browser because idiots don't want their java implementation to be 0.4% slower than somebody else's in a consumer testing table done by other idiots equally ignorant of the issues.
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Hopefully RIP (FutureWave | ShockWave | Macromedia | Adobe) Flash 1995 - 2018.
Mourned by few.
BTW: Did anyone find out whether the ammo Steve used was made out of silver?
Chrome now makes you jump through hoops to enable Flash for a site - so of course usage has declined precipitously. When it was enabled by default, all those Flash objects an any random web page would load. Now it's only going to be when a person actually wants access to Flash.
It's slightly annoying for me simply because I only use Chrome when I specifically need to access a site which still uses Flash. But for people who routinely enjoy giving Google all their - er, I mean, prefer to use Chrome as their daily driver - this is a good thing.
#DeleteChrome
Good. Now put throttles on Javascript so it won't lock up my browser because idiots don't want their java implementation to be 0.4% slower than somebody else's in a consumer testing table done by other idiots equally ignorant of the issues.
Calls people idiots. Doesn't know the difference between Java and Javascript.
You're using the legacy URL. The HTML5 version doesn't seem to need it.
I had my last Flash project back in 2011. Never did anything with Flash since.
To be clear: Flash is super-dead.
Which is a crying shame. And please spare me the Flash banner ad whining. ... Flash was *at* *least* 15 years ahead technology wise. You could do many things with Flash that JS/WebGL/CSS still struggle to achieve today on computers orders of magnitude faster than anything we had back then.
Adobe screwed this up big time. Flash could've been the brave new resolution-independent vector graphic world of retina displays and mobile devices. What do we have instead? React and React Native and awkward SVG and canvas hacks using transpiled JS and whatnot. Laughable compared to even the simplest Flash/AS client/server setup and way more difficult to handle. With Flash/AS you could whip up an interactive map or some other gadget in a coffee break, async data with the server included. Adobe screwed it up big time. They should've FOSSed it when the touch-mobile revolution started - that was their last chance. Flash is dead and Adobe alone is to blame.
I don't use Adobe products anymore. Flash was the only proprietary tech I used and it will remain the only one. Flash was worth it. Very neat tech. Hope we get there once again sometime in the future. Until then it's HTML canvas, TypeScript, WebGL and Web Asssembly. ... Yeah, just great.
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Maybe because the latest HTML already has support for what Flash use to do.
Maybe he was a douche, but I'm sure glad he did that.
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Seriously, the only issue I see with Flash beeing deprecated is accessing to some legacy site. I was more concerned with Java applet beeing deprecated, because there are usecases where applet have no replacement solution. For instance, if you need access to smartcard to get decent two form factor identity level for signature. Web crypto is not moving much and not covering those areas AFAIK. And alternative such as WebUSB are limited to Chrome only. Applet were working on all the desktop browsers.
My daughter's assignments (public middle school) are on a website that requires flash. Cannot be used in recent Firefox builds. Flash will not go away while it's required by the public school system.
I hadn't known there were so many idiots in the world until I started using the Internet -Stanislaw Lem
I can't drop flash in Chrome until Google Hangouts doesn't require it for camera/mic access on OSX.
I got an annual report for an upcoming stockholders' meeting for a stock I own. I was really surprised that the whole thing was in Flash. Not PDF but ail in Flash. This is a company in the top 250 of the Fortune 500. While it's not an IT company, let's just say that you would think they have a good enough handle on technology to not make their annual report be only in Flash, but nope. I'm not going to name the company lest doing so hurt the stock value, but it just shows you how even people who you might have thought were way past using Flash are in fact still using it.
However Javascript+HTML5 has became the replacement for Actionscript+Flash. The real difference is the fact that Javascript and HTTML5 are open standards, while Flash is under the domain of Adobe.
However Adobe knows it had a good run with it, and has been implementing a gradual exit strategy for a while. But in terms of functionality and bad developers doing bad things. There isn't much you can do about it. Any throttles will need to be done by the browser, and may cause problems for some applications.
If something is so important that you feel the need to post it on the internet... It probably isn't that important.
Spouse had to re-install Flash on Chrome to complete mandatory continuing ed coursework for job as RN. Chrome put up some resistance but we were able to beat it down and install Flash. I doubt the release of an html5 version is imminent.
Been there already. I was out in the field, my laptop wouldn't open Vcenter because of the Flash BS.
Fortunately I could do what I needed to do (shut down VMs) with the HTML5 version, which is still quite limited.
Death to Flash, and Death to Java too, while we're at it.
Java is like the new DLL hell with compatibility/security issues.
I hate how the industry forced us into using browsers as management utilities, and got rid of the solidly working dedicated applications that worked well before under the guise of, "Now you can easily manage xyz from any workstation and no installation necessary!!". Used car salesmen are more truthful.
Hopefully HTML5 actually backs up some of this promise.
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Will this Google startup still exist by then?
And now we know how many people use ADP for payroll, 8% of Chrome users...
I'm not going to name the company lest doing so hurt the stock value.
Buy short options and then make it public. The stock will plummet and you will get rich.
Flash was self contained and easy to block. I think that when HTML5 will be misused, we might end up missing it.
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at least it's just flash and not some IE only stuff or other stuff like quicktime or real. There are a few other EDU plugins from the past as well. That Worked in IE and firefox and also had MAC as well.
it may take an lawsuit say someone fails an class when they can't take there flash based class work and the school lab does not have flash on there systems.
Don't worry, he always finds his way back from the speed force or whatever.
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While others are saying vSphere "web" client, there are other legacy administration consoles that require it too. I have a few network printers which use Flash for their admin interface. I also have security web cameras that can optionally work with flash and IE... but if you use Edge, Chrome, FF, it thinks you're on a mobile browser and gives you 10% functionality with a bullshit UI designed for phones.
Flash is still around because most of this shit cannot be updated, only replaced, which is often times out of the question for budget reasons.
These poor bastards that are still forced to use websites with Flash...
Huh? How is Javascript a java implementation?
Tired of my customary (Score:1)
Problem solved.
Fake your user agent as safari on mac?
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Steve is dead too.
Whether this is coincidence or conspiracy is a question left for the reader.
File under 'M' for 'Manic ranting'
Or HP Blade Chassis administrators doing network/storage config (VirtualConnect Web Admin interface still uses flash) Or HDS storage admins (Command Suite/HiCommand is still flash)
I hate how the industry forced us into using browsers as management utilities, and got rid of the solidly working dedicated applications that worked well before under the guise of, "Now you can easily manage xyz from any workstation and no installation necessary!!".
i don't, the problem is that so many were using flash, or active x, or IE specific bs, or a crazy browser plugin only for this thing that works only on windows xp, or java 1.5.something, or a combination of all of these.
if they were REAL web application, there wouldn't be a problem. Now they were just the same as before - all different, badly written, applications with way to specific requirements, so it never worked for everybody.
On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero.
Same boat here. None of the browsers work for vCenter and the desktop client is too inept to upload files to a datastore.
You make it sound as if nobody uses dial-up anymore. Go outside the metro areas in the US and that is typically all you get...aside from ridiculously overpriced and quite slow cell connections. As far as Internet infrastructure goes, the US is a digital third world country with a Monaco style price tag. Any place in Europe gets faster Internet connections for a fraction of the price and many ISPs to chose from.
>> BTW: Did anyone find out whether the ammo Steve used was made out of silver? :)
Nearly. It was made of Silverlight
It was nicer with flash, but so much insecure :
https://cdn.inquisitr.com/wp-c...
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That's true. it's more effort to write good malware in HTML5 compared to flash, coz it has less "features"
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What are /.'ers using for interactive video conferencing to replace Adobe Connect?
This Chrome extension implements an HTML5 player for Crunchyroll. It works much better than their Flash player (smoother playback with no stuttering, no issues with seeking):
https://chrome.google.com/webs...
There is one caveat: it relies on the same HLS video streams that Crunchyroll's app-based players use. Those video streams have the subtitles burned into the video as hardsubs, and some of their catalog titles have an issue with the hardsubs where some lines don't show up on screen long enough. There's no workaround for it, the problem affects Crunchyroll's own apps too. Crunchyroll has said they'd re-encode the back catalog to fix it, but as usual it takes them years to get around to doing stuff like that.